History Film / Heathers

12th Aug '17 7:07:30 PM Fiendish
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* {{Foreshadowing}}: At the Remington party, Heather Chandler and Veronica are each pressured by a JerkJock college guy to have sex. [[spoiler:Heather capitulates and gives the guy a blowjob, revealing that she's nowhere near as secure as she lets on; thus JD is able to easily goad her into drinking poison the next day. Veronica stands up for herself and leaves, foreshadowing that she ''is'' secure enough to do the same to JD later.]]
21st Jul '17 11:58:22 AM BatmanKalEl
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* BigBadDuumvirate: J.D. and Heather Duke. Though, J.D. is the more antagonistic and evil of the two.

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* BigBadDuumvirate: BigBadEnsemble: J.D. and Heather Duke. Though, J.D. is the more antagonistic and evil of the two.
8th Jun '17 12:51:37 PM Red-Dead-Redeemer
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--> '''Veronica:''' "You'll be wanted by the FBI, the CIA, the PTA..."

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--> '''Veronica:''' "You'll -->'''Veronica:''' You'll be wanted by the FBI, the CIA, the PTA..."



* CrapsackWorld

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* %%* CrapsackWorld



-->[[spoiler:'''J.D.:''' Let's pretend I blew up the school... all the schools. Now that you're dead, what are you gonna do with your life?]]
-->[[spoiler:'''Heather Chandler:''' Corn...nuts!]]

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-->[[spoiler:'''J.D.:''' Let's pretend I blew up the school... all the schools. Now that you're dead, what are you gonna do with your life?]]
-->[[spoiler:'''Heather
life?]]\\
[[spoiler:'''Heather
Chandler:''' Corn...nuts!]]



--> '''Peter:''' Heather and I used to go out, but she said I was boring... but now I realize I really wasn't boring at all, it's just that she was dissatisfied with her life.
--> '''Stoner Girl:''' Sorry to hear about your friend. Thought she was your usual air-head bitch... Guess I was wrong.
--> Veronica (voice-over): Suicide gave Heather depth, Kurt a soul, Ram a brain.

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--> '''Peter:''' -->'''Peter:''' Heather and I used to go out, but she said I was boring... but now I realize I really wasn't boring at all, it's just that she was dissatisfied with her life.
-->
life.\\
'''Stoner Girl:''' Sorry to hear about your friend. Thought she was your usual air-head bitch... Guess I was wrong. \n--> Veronica \\
'''Veronica'''
(voice-over): Suicide gave Heather depth, Kurt a soul, Ram a brain. brain.



--> '''Veronica:''' If everyone jumped off a bridge, would you?
--> '''Heather M.:''' (beat) Probably.

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--> '''Veronica:''' -->'''Veronica:''' If everyone jumped off a bridge, would you?
-->
you?\\
'''Heather M.:''' (beat) Probably.



-->'''Heather''': "Think l'll drink it just because yοu call me chicken? ... Just give me the cup, jerk!"

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-->'''Heather''': "Think l'll I'll drink it just because yοu you call me chicken? ... Just give me the cup, jerk!"



* PopularIsDumb

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* %%* PopularIsDumb



* RuleOfThree: Happens a few times. We see croquet three times: first in the opening credits, second after the cafeteria scene where [[spoiler: J.D. shoots at Kurt and Ram]], and third when Veronica invites Betty over to hang out. We see a funeral three times: [[spoiler: Heather Chandler's, Kurt and Ram's, and then Veronica's dream about Heather Duke's funeral]]. During her call to "Hot Probs," Heather gives three names: Heather, [[LineOfSightNaming Madonna, and Tweetie]]. And Veronica interacts with both of her parents three times: the first two times when she eats pate, has a near-identical exchange and then runs off; and the third time when her mother confronts her about her whining.

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* RuleOfThree: Happens a few times. We see croquet three times: first in the opening credits, second after the cafeteria scene where [[spoiler: J.D. shoots at Kurt and Ram]], and third when Veronica invites Betty over to hang out. We see a funeral three times: [[spoiler: Heather Chandler's, Kurt and Ram's, and then Veronica's dream about Heather Duke's funeral]]. During her call to "Hot Probs," Heather gives three names: Heather, [[LineOfSightNaming [[LineOfSightName Madonna, and Tweetie]]. And Veronica interacts with both of her parents three times: the first two times when she eats pate, has a near-identical exchange and then runs off; and the third time when her mother confronts her about her whining.



--> '''J.D.:''' You got power - power I didn't think you had.

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--> '''J.-->'''J.D.:''' You got power - power I didn't think you had.



-->'''Veronica''': You're not a rebel, you're fucking psychotic.
-->'''J.D.''': [[InsultBackfire You say to-may-toe, I say to-mah-toe]].

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-->'''Veronica''': -->'''Veronica:''' You're not a rebel, you're fucking psychotic.
-->'''J.
psychotic.\\
'''J.
D.''': :''' [[InsultBackfire You say to-may-toe, I say to-mah-toe]].
16th May '17 4:33:25 PM nombretomado
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* BlackComedy: [[TwinPeaks Black as midnight on a moonless night]].

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* BlackComedy: [[TwinPeaks [[Series/TwinPeaks Black as midnight on a moonless night]].
28th Apr '17 5:49:52 PM Papermage8
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** Not to mention, there are any number of forensic tests that should have proven these victims were murdered rather than committing suicide. The only police we see, though, are more interested in the two teenagers making out in their car than in the dead teens in the woods.
22nd Apr '17 5:39:44 PM jedidarrick
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---> [[spoiler:Pretend I did blow up the school - all the schools. Now that you're dead, what are you going to do with your life?]]

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---> --> [[spoiler:Pretend I did blow up the school - all the schools. Now that you're dead, what are you going to do with your life?]]
12th Apr '17 2:07:08 PM IdeaMaster
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* TeensAreMonsters

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* TeensAreMonstersTeensAreMonsters: With the exception of [[TheWoobie Martha]].
1st Apr '17 3:02:08 PM ectostar
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* AutoErotica : As a cover after [[spoiler: they shoot Ram and Kurt in the woods]], J.D. and Veronica take off their tops and make out in the back of the car. The next scene after they drive away opens with J.D.'s shirt open and Veronica lying down with her head in his lap, implying something ''else'' may have happened, though nothing's stated outright.

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* AutoErotica : AutoErotica: As a cover after [[spoiler: they shoot Ram and Kurt in the woods]], J.D. and Veronica take off their tops and make out in the back of the car. The next scene after they drive away opens with J.D.'s shirt open and Veronica lying down with her head in his lap, implying something ''else'' may have happened, though nothing's stated outright.



* BloodlessCarnage : [[spoiler: When J.D. shoots Ram in the neck]], there should be a LOT more blood.

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* BloodlessCarnage : BloodlessCarnage: [[spoiler: When J.D. shoots Ram in the neck]], there should be a LOT more blood.



* DateRapeAverted : No less than ''three times!'' The first time, Veronica tells off her "suitor" at the college party while Heather Chandler is coerced into oral with another creepy guy. The second time, Kurt is so drunk Veronica fights him off; again, Heather is not so lucky. And the third time, J.D. grabs Veronica and kisses her hard. She fights him off. Once Veronica dumps J.D., he continually [[ForcefulKiss forcefully kisses]] her, causing her to continually fight him off.

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* DateRapeAverted : DateRapeAverted: No less than ''three times!'' The first time, Veronica tells off her "suitor" at the college party while Heather Chandler is coerced into oral with another creepy guy. The second time, Kurt is so drunk Veronica fights him off; again, Heather is not so lucky. And the third time, J.D. grabs Veronica and kisses her hard. She fights him off. Once Veronica dumps J.D., he continually [[ForcefulKiss forcefully kisses]] her, causing her to continually fight him off.



* DoItYourselfThemeTune : The song "Teenage Suicide (Don't Do It)" is performed by pop band Big Fun, which is made up of members of the production crew.

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* DoItYourselfThemeTune : DoItYourselfThemeTune: The song "Teenage Suicide (Don't Do It)" is performed by pop band Big Fun, which is made up of members of the production crew.



--> Veronica (voice-over) : Suicide gave Heather depth, Kurt a soul, Ram a brain.

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--> Veronica (voice-over) : (voice-over): Suicide gave Heather depth, Kurt a soul, Ram a brain.



* IronicEcho: Subtly. After [[spoiler:killing Kurt and Ram]], Veronica [[SelfHarm burns herself]], and J.D. uses the burn to light his cigarette. At the end, [[spoiler:Veronica uses the explosion that kills J.D. to light ''her'' cigarette.]] Also uses the RuleOfThree : The first time Veronica tries to burn herself is at the Remington party.

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* IronicEcho: Subtly. After [[spoiler:killing Kurt and Ram]], Veronica [[SelfHarm burns herself]], and J.D. uses the burn to light his cigarette. At the end, [[spoiler:Veronica uses the explosion that kills J.D. to light ''her'' cigarette.]] Also uses the RuleOfThree : RuleOfThree; The first time Veronica tries to burn herself is at the Remington party.



* ProductPlacement : Swatch watches abound, and the company provide a ton of freebies to the crew.

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* ProductPlacement : ProductPlacement: Swatch watches abound, and the company provide a ton of freebies to the crew.



* RuleOfThree : Happens a few times. We see croquet three times: first in the opening credits, second after the cafeteria scene where [[spoiler: J.D. shoots at Kurt and Ram]], and third when Veronica invites Betty over to hang out. We see a funeral three times: [[spoiler: Heather Chandler's, Kurt and Ram's, and then Veronica's dream about Heather Duke's funeral]]. During her call to "Hot Probs," Heather gives three names: Heather, [[LineOfSightNaming Madonna, and Tweetie]]. And Veronica interacts with both of her parents three times: the first two times when she eats pate, has a near-identical exchange and then runs off; and the third time when her mother confronts her about her whining.

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* RuleOfThree : RuleOfThree: Happens a few times. We see croquet three times: first in the opening credits, second after the cafeteria scene where [[spoiler: J.D. shoots at Kurt and Ram]], and third when Veronica invites Betty over to hang out. We see a funeral three times: [[spoiler: Heather Chandler's, Kurt and Ram's, and then Veronica's dream about Heather Duke's funeral]]. During her call to "Hot Probs," Heather gives three names: Heather, [[LineOfSightNaming Madonna, and Tweetie]]. And Veronica interacts with both of her parents three times: the first two times when she eats pate, has a near-identical exchange and then runs off; and the third time when her mother confronts her about her whining.



* TotallyRadical : ZigZagged While some of the dialogue has a definite TheEighties feel, the screenwriter made up his own slang terms (see MemeticMutation), which still doesn't feel dated over a quarter-century after the film's release.

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* TotallyRadical : TotallyRadical: ZigZagged While some of the dialogue has a definite TheEighties feel, the screenwriter made up his own slang terms (see MemeticMutation), which still doesn't feel dated over a quarter-century after the film's release.



* WaxingLyrical : Kurt to Veronica.

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* WaxingLyrical : WaxingLyrical: Kurt to Veronica.
1st Apr '17 1:52:25 PM ectostar
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1st Apr '17 1:50:58 PM ectostar
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* AssholeVictim: Deconstructed. Heather Chandler, Kurt, and Ram are all horrible people but the film makes a point that no matter how awful they were, killing them wasn't the answer. In fact, they all become more popular in death due to the lies Veronica and JD plant on them that paint them as jerks on the outside but with tragic private lives. Similarly, after their deaths they are shown to have families who deeply cared for them.

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* AssholeVictim: Deconstructed. Heather Chandler, Kurt, and Ram are all horrible people but the film makes a point that no matter how awful they were, killing them wasn't the answer. In fact, they all become more popular in death due to the lies Veronica and JD J.D. plant on them that paint them as jerks on the outside but with tragic private lives. Similarly, after their deaths they are shown to have families who deeply cared for them.



* AutoErotica : As a cover after [[spoiler: they shoot Ram and Kurt in the woods]], JD and Veronica take off their tops and make out in the back of the car. The next scene after they drive away opens with J.D.'s shirt open and Veronica lying down with her head in his lap, implying something ''else'' may have happened, though nothing's stated outright.

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* AutoErotica : As a cover after [[spoiler: they shoot Ram and Kurt in the woods]], JD J.D. and Veronica take off their tops and make out in the back of the car. The next scene after they drive away opens with J.D.'s shirt open and Veronica lying down with her head in his lap, implying something ''else'' may have happened, though nothing's stated outright.



* BetaBitch: Heather Duke and Veronica share that role while Heather Chandler is alive, though both resent it - Duke the 'beta' part (and happily moves onto the alpha position when Chandler dies), Veronica the whole deal (but is willing to stick to it and admits that while she hates Chandler, she 'will be kissing her [Chandler's] ass tomorrow') and only ditches it with JD's influence. Heather [=McNamara=] is way down the totem pole and not enough of a bitch to even compete.
* BettyAndVeronica: Played with. There are a Betty and Veronica in this movie, but they don't fill the same roles. Subverted with Veronica's suitors. There is no "good" Betty and "bad" Veronica--each is worse than the last, with JD her primary interest and the others (Brett and Kurt) being setups from the Heathers. Technically, JD plays the role of Veronica to the non-murderous but date-raping, drunken, {{JerkAss}} Bettys.
* BigBadDuumvirate: JD and Heather Duke. Though, JD is the more antagonistic and evil of the two.
* BigFun: Poor, poor Martha [[EmbarrassingNickname Dumptruck]]. "Big Fun" is coincidentally also the name of the band behind the song "Teenage Suicide (Don't Do It)," which is used at several points in the film. Martha is wearing a "Big Fun" tee shirt [[spoiler:when she attempts suicide]], and JD blackmails Heather Duke into helping him circulate a petition around the high school to have Big Fun perform at the Prom, which is [[spoiler:actually a disguised "suicide" note from the student body he plans to have found after he blows up the school]].

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* BetaBitch: Heather Duke and Veronica share that role while Heather Chandler is alive, though both resent it - Duke the 'beta' part (and happily moves onto the alpha position when Chandler dies), Veronica the whole deal (but is willing to stick to it and admits that while she hates Chandler, she 'will be kissing her [Chandler's] ass tomorrow') and only ditches it with JD's J.D.'s influence. Heather [=McNamara=] is way down the totem pole and not enough of a bitch to even compete.
* BettyAndVeronica: Played with. There are a Betty and Veronica in this movie, but they don't fill the same roles. Subverted with Veronica's suitors. There is no "good" Betty and "bad" Veronica--each is worse than the last, with JD J.D. her primary interest and the others (Brett and Kurt) being setups from the Heathers. Technically, JD J.D. plays the role of Veronica to the non-murderous but date-raping, drunken, {{JerkAss}} Bettys.
* BigBadDuumvirate: JD J.D. and Heather Duke. Though, JD J.D. is the more antagonistic and evil of the two.
* BigFun: Poor, poor Martha [[EmbarrassingNickname Dumptruck]]. "Big Fun" is coincidentally also the name of the band behind the song "Teenage Suicide (Don't Do It)," which is used at several points in the film. Martha is wearing a "Big Fun" tee shirt [[spoiler:when she attempts suicide]], and JD J.D. blackmails Heather Duke into helping him circulate a petition around the high school to have Big Fun perform at the Prom, which is [[spoiler:actually a disguised "suicide" note from the student body he plans to have found after he blows up the school]].



* BlackComedy: [[TwinPeaks Black as midnight on a moonless night.]]
* BlueAndOrangeMorality: JD arguably isn't ''evil'' per se, he just operates on a completely different set of morals from normal people - primarily because he's [[AxCrazy terrifyingly insane]].

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* BlackComedy: [[TwinPeaks Black as midnight on a moonless night.]]
night]].
* BlueAndOrangeMorality: JD J.D. arguably isn't ''evil'' per se, he just operates on a completely different set of morals from normal people - primarily because he's [[AxCrazy terrifyingly insane]].



* CouldntFindALighter: Veronica lights her cigarette off [[spoiler:of the explosion that just killed her ex-boyfriend J.D.]] Also, when Veronica burns the palm of her hand with a car's cigarette lighter (intentionally), and JD lights a cigarette from the burn-scar's residual heat. This scene is also one of a few incidents of Veronica's SelfHarm (noted on the DVD commentary).

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* CouldntFindALighter: Veronica lights her cigarette off [[spoiler:of the explosion that just killed her ex-boyfriend J.D.]] Also, when Veronica burns the palm of her hand with a car's cigarette lighter (intentionally), and JD J.D. lights a cigarette from the burn-scar's residual heat. This scene is also one of a few incidents of Veronica's SelfHarm (noted on the DVD commentary).



* EatingLunchAlone: JD eats alone in the school cafeteria at the beginning.

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* EatingLunchAlone: JD J.D. eats alone in the school cafeteria at the beginning.



* LaserGuidedKarma: [[spoiler: what JD thinks he's doing.]]
* {{Leitmotif}}: JD has one. Although most of the score is technopop-inspired synths, there's a harmonica playing in any scene that scene features or is about him.

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* LaserGuidedKarma: [[spoiler: what JD J.D. thinks he's doing.]]
* {{Leitmotif}}: JD J.D. has one. Although most of the score is technopop-inspired synths, there's a harmonica playing in any scene that scene features or is about him.



* MoodWhiplash: An in-universe example. Veronica and JD are giggling at [[spoiler: Kurt and Ram's]] funeral ("How would he react to a limp wrist with a pulse?"). A young member of the family turns around and she's crying. Veronica shows her first sign of deep remorse.

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* MoodWhiplash: An in-universe example. Veronica and JD J.D. are giggling at [[spoiler: Kurt and Ram's]] funeral ("How would he react to a limp wrist with a pulse?"). A young member of the family turns around and she's crying. Veronica shows her first sign of deep remorse.



* RuleOfThree : Happens a few times. We see croquet three times: first in the opening credits, second after the cafeteria scene where [[spoiler: JD shoots at Kurt and Ram]], and third when Veronica invites Betty over to hang out. We see a funeral three times: [[spoiler: Heather Chandler's, Kurt and Ram's, and then Veronica's dream about Heather Duke's funeral]]. During her call to "Hot Probs," Heather gives three names: Heather, [[LineOfSightNaming Madonna, and Tweetie]]. And Veronica interacts with both of her parents three times: the first two times when she eats pate, has a near-identical exchange and then runs off; and the third time when her mother confronts her about her whining.
* SelfHarm: Veronica will partake in this in moments of strife, [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation be it out of guilt, seething rage, or possibly to check if she's dreaming.]] Starting with her burning her hand with a match in the Remington party in a "God why am I even here" fit. After the deaths of [[spoiler: Ram and Kurt]], Veronica burns herself with a car lighter, prompting J.D. to light his cigarette with the resulting burn.

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* RuleOfThree : Happens a few times. We see croquet three times: first in the opening credits, second after the cafeteria scene where [[spoiler: JD J.D. shoots at Kurt and Ram]], and third when Veronica invites Betty over to hang out. We see a funeral three times: [[spoiler: Heather Chandler's, Kurt and Ram's, and then Veronica's dream about Heather Duke's funeral]]. During her call to "Hot Probs," Heather gives three names: Heather, [[LineOfSightNaming Madonna, and Tweetie]]. And Veronica interacts with both of her parents three times: the first two times when she eats pate, has a near-identical exchange and then runs off; and the third time when her mother confronts her about her whining.
* SelfHarm: Veronica will partake in this in moments of strife, [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation be it out of guilt, seething rage, or possibly to check if she's dreaming.]] dreaming]]. Starting with her burning her hand with a match in the Remington party in a "God why am I even here" fit. After the deaths of [[spoiler: Ram and Kurt]], Veronica burns herself with a car lighter, prompting J.D. to light his cigarette with the resulting burn.



* WellIntentionedExtremist: J.D. tries to [[spoiler:blow up the whole school and kill everyone inside in a staged mass suicide. He thinks he's doing them a favor by sending them to Heaven, which he thinks would be a more peaceful place without social strife.]]

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* WellIntentionedExtremist: J.D. tries to [[spoiler:blow up the whole school and kill everyone inside in a staged mass suicide. He thinks he's doing them a favor by sending them to Heaven, which he thinks would be a more peaceful place without social strife.]]strife]].



* WorthyOpponent: [[spoiler: what JD comes to see Veronica as:]]
--> '''JD:''' You got power - power I didn't think you had.

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* WorthyOpponent: [[spoiler: what JD J.D. comes to see Veronica as:]]
--> '''JD:''' '''J.D.:''' You got power - power I didn't think you had.



-->'''J.D.''': [[InsultBackfire You say to-may-toe, I say to-mah-toe.]]

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-->'''J.D.''': [[InsultBackfire You say to-may-toe, I say to-mah-toe.]]
to-mah-toe]].
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