History Film / GangsOfNewYork

12th Sep '16 2:58:57 PM maxwellsilver
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It's 1846, and rival gangs are [[BigApplesauce fighting over]] [[WretchedHive the Five Points]] [[UsefulNotes/NewYorkCity district]]. Priest Vallon (Creator/LiamNeeson) leads the "Dead Rabbits", the gang of Irish-Catholic immigrants. [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Bill]] "TheButcher" [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Cutting]] (Creator/DanielDayLewis)leads the anti-immigrant "Natives". During a bloody battle, Bill kills Priest and declares the Dead Rabbits outlawed as Priest's young son Amsterdam watches.

15 years later, Amsterdam (Creator/LeonardoDiCaprio) returns to the Five Points and infiltrates Bill's gang with his childhood friend Johnny's help, [[TheInfiltration working his way into Bill's inner circle]]. Bill, who never recognizes Amsterdam as the son of his old rival, takes him in as a favorite and mentors him. Amsterdam secretly plots his revenge, but doubts his motivation after saving Bill from an assassin. Amsterdam and Johnny's shared attraction for Jenny, a pretty pickpocket and con artist, further complicates matters.

All of this is set against the backdrop of the [[UsefulNotes/TheAmericanCivilWar Civil War]] and political corruption of the 19th century. The feel of the era is firmly established through small touches, such as Bill's gang mocking a theatre performance of ''UncleTomsCabin'', and the rampant racism of Civil War America is prevalent throughout the film. Bill maintains most of his power through an uneasy alliance with the Tammany Hall political machine; a critical turning point occurs when Amsterdam [[EnemyMine wins Tammany to his side]] by promising him the Irish vote. The film's climax occurs as the New York Draft Riots break out and the U.S. government resorts to violence to stop the insurrection.

Ends in a famous TimePassesMontage featuring the changing skyline of New York over the years, which caused the director no end of [[ExecutiveMeddling hassle]] in the wake of 9/11.

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It's 1846, and rival gangs are [[BigApplesauce fighting over]] [[WretchedHive over the Five Points]] [[UsefulNotes/NewYorkCity district]].Points district. Priest Vallon (Creator/LiamNeeson) leads the "Dead Rabbits", the gang of Irish-Catholic immigrants. [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Bill]] "TheButcher" [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Cutting]] Bill "The Butcher" Cutting (Creator/DanielDayLewis)leads the anti-immigrant "Natives". During a bloody battle, Bill kills Priest and declares the Dead Rabbits outlawed as Priest's young son Amsterdam watches.

15 years later, Amsterdam (Creator/LeonardoDiCaprio) returns to the Five Points and infiltrates Bill's gang with his childhood friend Johnny's help, [[TheInfiltration working his way into Bill's inner circle]].circle. Bill, who never recognizes Amsterdam as the son of his old rival, takes him in as a favorite and mentors him. Amsterdam secretly plots his revenge, but doubts his motivation after saving Bill from an assassin. Amsterdam and Johnny's shared attraction for Jenny, a pretty pickpocket and con artist, further complicates matters.

All of this is set against the backdrop of the [[UsefulNotes/TheAmericanCivilWar Civil War]] UsefulNotes/TheAmericanCivilWar and political corruption of the 19th century. The feel of the era is firmly established through small touches, such as Bill's gang mocking a theatre performance of ''UncleTomsCabin'', ''Theatre/UncleTomsCabin'', and the rampant racism of Civil War America is prevalent throughout the film. Bill maintains most of his power through an uneasy alliance with the Tammany Hall political machine; a critical turning point occurs when Amsterdam [[EnemyMine wins Tammany to his side]] side by promising him the Irish vote. The film's climax occurs as the New York Draft Riots break out and the U.S. government resorts to violence to stop the insurrection.

Ends in a famous TimePassesMontage featuring the changing skyline of New York over the years, which caused the director no end of [[ExecutiveMeddling hassle]] hassle in the wake of 9/11.



* ActionGirl: Jenny is more than capable of taking care of herself. [[WolverineClaws Hell-cat]] [[GirlWithPsychoWeapon Maggie]] might be this or DarkActionGirl.

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* ActionGirl: Jenny is more than capable of taking care of herself. [[WolverineClaws Hell-cat]] [[GirlWithPsychoWeapon Maggie]] Hell-cat Maggie might be this or DarkActionGirl.



** [[SlidingScaleOfShinyVersusGritty But surprisingly]] ''[[SlidingScaleOfShinyVersusGritty clean]]''...

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** [[SlidingScaleOfShinyVersusGritty But surprisingly]] ''[[SlidingScaleOfShinyVersusGritty clean]]''...surprisingly ''clean''...



* AnachronismStew: While Scorsese [[ShownTheirWork definitely did the research]], he noted that the film is intended to be more of an "operatic" myth than a documentary, as a result, he felt free to mix and match [[RuleOfCool cooler-sounding]] elements of various historical accounts that didn't coexist in real life.
** Scorsese says his inspiration came from running into a basement in Little Italy while [[BrooklynRage avoiding a beating]], and discovering that [[BeneathTheEarth the basements of the "modern" buildings]] built on top of lower Manhattan looked like the catacombs depicted in the film.
** Boss Tweed didn't have any sort of power til 1863, where he had himself appointed as Sheriff (sorry, Monk!) and started extortion to increase his income. It wasn't till after the Civil War that Tweed and the Tammany machine truly started humming.

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* AnachronismStew: While Scorsese [[ShownTheirWork definitely did the research]], research, he noted that the film is intended to be more of an "operatic" myth than a documentary, documentary; as a result, he felt free to mix and match [[RuleOfCool cooler-sounding]] cooler-sounding elements of various historical accounts that didn't coexist in real life.
** Scorsese says his inspiration came from running into a basement in Little Italy while [[BrooklynRage avoiding a beating]], beating, and discovering that [[BeneathTheEarth the basements of the "modern" buildings]] buildings built on top of lower Manhattan looked like the catacombs depicted in the film.
** Boss Tweed didn't have any sort of power til till 1863, where he had himself appointed as Sheriff (sorry, Monk!) and started extortion to increase his income. It wasn't till after the Civil War that Tweed and the Tammany machine truly started humming.



* AntiClimax: [[spoiler: The battle between Bill's nativists and Amsterdam's revived Dead Rabbits never happens because the supposed background story overtakes the main story. [[{{Deconstruction}} Contrary to cliche movie logic, the problems of two people really don't amount to a hill of beans in this crazy world.]]]]

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* AntiClimax: [[spoiler: The battle between Bill's nativists and Amsterdam's revived Dead Rabbits never happens because the supposed background story overtakes the main story. [[{{Deconstruction}} Contrary to cliche movie logic, the problems of two people really don't amount to a hill of beans in this crazy world.]]]]]]



* AntiVillain: Averted with Bill. His brutal actions, darkly comedic nature, and [[{{Ubermensch}} warped]] [[FairPlayVillain sense of honor]] only undermine his feeble PetTheDog moments.

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* AntiVillain: Averted with Bill. His brutal actions, darkly comedic nature, and [[{{Ubermensch}} warped]] [[FairPlayVillain warped sense of honor]] honor only undermine his feeble PetTheDog moments.



* BadassMustache: Bill the Butcher and his prominant handlebar mustache certainly qualify.

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* BadassMustache: Bill the Butcher and his prominant prominent handlebar mustache certainly qualify.



* BeautyIsNeverTarnished: When you've got LeonardoDiCaprio in your film...
** This is emphasized the most when [[spoiler: Bill the Butcher captures him and claims that he will disfigure him with a hot knife. We cut to people gasping at Amsterdam (Di Caprio) in disgust... only to see that Di Caprio looks as handsome as ever with only the slightest cut on his cheek.]] It was a very {{Narm}}ful scene for some.

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* BeautyIsNeverTarnished: When you've got LeonardoDiCaprio Creator/LeonardoDiCaprio in your film...
** This is emphasized the most when [[spoiler: Bill the Butcher captures him and claims that he will disfigure him with a hot knife. We cut to people gasping at Amsterdam (Di Caprio) ([=DiCaprio=]) in disgust... only to see that Di Caprio [=DiCaprio=] looks as handsome as ever with only the slightest cut on his cheek.]] It was a very {{Narm}}ful scene for some.]]



* BerserkButton: After being shot in the shoulder by a Gaelic-speaking assassin, Bill goes ballistic. [[ClusterFBomb "You mother-whoring Irish nigger!....you see this knife! I'm gonna make you speak English with this fucking knife!"]]

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* BerserkButton: After being shot in the shoulder by a Gaelic-speaking assassin, Bill goes ballistic. [[ClusterFBomb "You mother-whoring Irish nigger!....you see this knife! I'm gonna make you speak English with this fucking knife!"]]knife!"



* BigBad: Cutting.

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* %%* BigBad: Cutting.



* BlatantLies: Johnny tries to claim that he let Jenny steal his pocket watch when he and Amsterdam first meet her. Amsterdamn isn't fooled for a second.
* BloodKnight: Bill revels in combat, especially the kind involving {{kni|feNut}}ves and cleavers and other sharp blades in general.

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* BlatantLies: Johnny tries to claim that he let Jenny steal his pocket watch when he and Amsterdam first meet her. Amsterdamn Amsterdam isn't fooled for a second.
* BloodKnight: Bill revels in combat, especially the kind involving {{kni|feNut}}ves knives and cleavers and other sharp blades in general.



* BoomerangBigot: The Irish-Catholic [=McGloin=], who joins up with the "Natives" in order to acquire more power on the streets.
** His alliance with Bill is also heavily influenced by his hatred of blacks.

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* BoomerangBigot: The Irish-Catholic [=McGloin=], who joins up with the "Natives" in order to acquire more power on the streets.
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streets. His alliance with Bill is also heavily influenced by his hatred of blacks.



* CallingMeALogarithm: Subverted when a characters asks Amsterdam and his friends if they take exception to being called "fidlam bens"[[note]]someone who resorts to stealing pathetic stuff because he can't steal good stuff[[/note]]. He replies that he might if he knew what it meant. (Now, if he wanted to call him a "chiseler"[[note]]someone who cheats his friends out of money[[/note]], then yes, he is offended.)

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* CallingMeALogarithm: Subverted when a characters character asks Amsterdam and his friends if they take exception to being called "fidlam bens"[[note]]someone who resorts to stealing pathetic stuff because he can't steal good stuff[[/note]]. He replies that he might if he knew what it meant. (Now, if he wanted to call him a "chiseler"[[note]]someone who cheats his friends out of money[[/note]], then yes, he is offended.)



* CharacterFilibuster: Bill has a long one while talking to Amsterdam after their night at a brothel, discussing his life's story while [[{{Eagleland}} draped in an American flag]].

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* CharacterFilibuster: Bill has a long one while talking to Amsterdam after their night at a brothel, discussing his life's story while [[{{Eagleland}} draped in an American flag]].flag.



* {{Cloudcuckoolander}}: Bill, at least in the theater scene and in a less comical fashion than is usually portrayed. After nearly being assassinated by a Gaelic-speaking radical, he screams in pain (reasonably enough), [[{{Squick}} then sticks his finger into the bullet hole and tastes his own blood]], lets loose a monumental ClusterFBomb and furiously demands that the captured assassin speak English or he will kill him. Then, when he realizes that both the other audience members and the actors on stage are staring at him, he immediately calms down and graciously says: "Tragedians, let us continue." (See also SophisticatedAsHell.)

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* {{Cloudcuckoolander}}: Bill, at least in the theater scene and in a less comical fashion than is usually portrayed. After nearly being assassinated by a Gaelic-speaking radical, he screams in pain (reasonably enough), [[{{Squick}} then sticks his finger into the bullet hole and tastes his own blood]], blood, lets loose a monumental ClusterFBomb and furiously demands that the captured assassin speak English or he will kill him. Then, when he realizes that both the other audience members and the actors on stage are staring at him, he immediately calms down and graciously says: "Tragedians, let us continue." (See also SophisticatedAsHell.)



* DarkerAndEdgier: Find any movie or tv show set in the 19th United States that's darker, and more unflinching in it's portrayal of the problems of the culture.
* DastardlyWhiplash: The [[BadassMoustache moustachio-twirling]], [[NiceHat top-hatted]] Bill the Butcher could be Snidely Whiplash's uncle. [[ReconstructedTrope His very, very scary uncle.]]

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* DarkerAndEdgier: Find any movie or tv show set in the 19th United States that's darker, darker and more unflinching in it's its portrayal of the problems of the culture.
* DastardlyWhiplash: The [[BadassMoustache moustachio-twirling]], [[NiceHat top-hatted]] moustachio-twirling, top-hatted Bill the Butcher could be Snidely Whiplash's uncle. [[ReconstructedTrope His very, very scary uncle.]]



-->'''Bill:''' I'm 47. 47 years old. Know how I stayed alive this long? All these years? Fear. The spectacle of fearsome acts. Somebody steals from me: I [[AnArmAndALeg cut off his hands]]. He offends me: I [[TongueTrauma cut out his tongue]]. He rises against me: I cut off his head, [[DeadGuyOnDisplay stick it on a pike]]. Raise it high up [[DecapitationPresentation so all in the streets can see]]. That's what [[LawfulEvil preserves the order of things]]. Fear.

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-->'''Bill:''' I'm 47. 47 years old. Know how I stayed alive this long? All these years? Fear. The spectacle of fearsome acts. Somebody steals from me: I [[AnArmAndALeg cut off his hands]]. hands. He offends me: I [[TongueTrauma cut out his tongue]]. tongue. He rises against me: I cut off his head, [[DeadGuyOnDisplay stick it on a pike]]. pike. Raise it high up [[DecapitationPresentation so all in the streets can see]]. see. That's what [[LawfulEvil preserves the order of things]].things. Fear.



* DullSurprise: Amsterdam, for someone with a "murderous rage" in him, is pretty bland.
** [[TranquilFury Maybe there's just no more heat to his anger?]]

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* DullSurprise: Amsterdam, for someone with a "murderous rage" in him, is pretty bland.
** [[TranquilFury
bland. Maybe there's just no more heat to his anger?]]anger?



* EpicMovie: This was to be Scorsese's EpicMovie, and chef d'ouevre. ExecutiveMeddling caused it to be cut down some, and the acting of the romantic leads has led to mixed critical reception. It's nevertheless every inch an epic film though.

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* EpicMovie: This was to be Scorsese's EpicMovie, Epic Movie, and chef d'ouevre. ExecutiveMeddling caused it to be cut down some, and the acting of the romantic leads has led to mixed critical reception. It's nevertheless every inch an epic film though.



* [[EyepatchOfPower Glass Eye of Power]] : Bill's glass eye has [[CaptainGeographic an American Eagle]] instead of a pupil.

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* [[EyepatchOfPower Glass Eye of Power]] : EyepatchOfPower: Bill's glass eye has [[CaptainGeographic an American Eagle]] Eagle instead of a pupil.



* EvenEvilHasStandards: Bill absolutely despises liars, cheats, backstabbers and dishonorable behavior in general.

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* EvenEvilHasStandards: EvenEvilHasStandards:
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Bill absolutely despises liars, cheats, backstabbers and dishonorable behavior in general.



* FloatingHeadSyndrome: [[MisplacedNamesPoster With jumbled names to boot!]] I never knew that Cameron Diaz had such a cool mustache!

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* FloatingHeadSyndrome: [[MisplacedNamesPoster With jumbled names to boot!]] boot! I never knew that Cameron Diaz had such a cool mustache!



* HistoricalInJoke: "Now ''that'' was bloody Shakespearean. Do you know who Creator/WilliamShakespeare was? He was the fellow who wrote the King James Bible."

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* HistoricalInJoke: HistoricalInJoke:
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"Now ''that'' was bloody Shakespearean. Do you know who Creator/WilliamShakespeare was? He was the fellow who wrote the King James Bible."



** A more meta example of Irony is that Day-Lewis was cast as Lincoln over a decade later in ''{{Film/Lincoln}}''



--->"'''DIDJA KNOW THERE'S A ''NIGGER'' IN THE CHURCH?!'''" ''([[ShutUpHannibal Whack!]])''

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--->"'''DIDJA KNOW THERE'S A ''NIGGER'' IN THE CHURCH?!'''" ''([[ShutUpHannibal Whack!]])''''(Whack!)''



* KillEmAll: And how.

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* %%* KillEmAll: And how.



-->'''Bill:''' Look at that. What in Christ's name is that? Rhythms of the [[DarkestAfrica dark continent]], thrown into the kettle with an [[{{Oireland}} Irish shindig]]. Stir it around a few times, pour it out as a fine American mess. A [[NWordPrivileges jig]] doing a jig.

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-->'''Bill:''' Look at that. What in Christ's name is that? Rhythms of the [[DarkestAfrica dark continent]], continent, thrown into the kettle with an [[{{Oireland}} Irish shindig]].shindig. Stir it around a few times, pour it out as a fine American mess. A [[NWordPrivileges jig]] jig doing a jig.



* NiceJobBreakingItHerod: ''Twice'' by Bill.
* NobleDemon: Bill does live by a some code of honor, no matter how alien, and [[PetTheDog pets the dog]] approximately twice.

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* %%* NiceJobBreakingItHerod: ''Twice'' by Bill.
* NobleDemon: Bill does live by a some code of honor, no matter how alien, and [[PetTheDog pets the dog]] dog approximately twice.



* TheOnlyOneAllowedToDefeatYou: Played straight -- Bill the Butcher and Vallon. Lampshaded when [[spoiler:[[ShootTheShaggyDog their climactic battle is rudely interrupted by a naval bombardment of the city.]]]] Bill [[DiscussedTrope discusses it]] on several occasions as being part of his "ancient laws of combat".

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* TheOnlyOneAllowedToDefeatYou: Played straight -- Bill the Butcher and Vallon. Lampshaded when [[spoiler:[[ShootTheShaggyDog their [[spoiler:their climactic battle is rudely interrupted by a naval bombardment of the city.]]]] ]] Bill [[DiscussedTrope discusses it]] it on several occasions as being part of his "ancient laws of combat".



* OrphansPlotTrinket: Priest Vallon's shaving razor. It turns out Monk went rifling through Vallon's effects [[ItMayHelpYouOnYourQuest to retrieve it for]] the orphaned Vallon years later.

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* OrphansPlotTrinket: Priest Vallon's shaving razor. It turns out Monk went rifling through Vallon's effects [[ItMayHelpYouOnYourQuest to retrieve it for]] for the orphaned Vallon years later.



* PoliticallyIncorrectVillain: Of course, [[ValuesDissonance it is the 1860's]], but still.
* PragmaticVillainy: [[SleazyPolitician Boss Tweed and]] [[CorruptPolitician his Tammany Hall cronies]] are appalled by Bill's actions, only because it's [[SlaveToPR bad for]] [[VillainWithGoodPublicity their appearances.]]

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* PoliticallyIncorrectVillain: Of course, [[ValuesDissonance it is the 1860's]], 1860's, but still.
* PragmaticVillainy: [[SleazyPolitician Boss Tweed and]] [[CorruptPolitician and his Tammany Hall cronies]] cronies are appalled by Bill's actions, only because it's [[SlaveToPR bad for]] [[VillainWithGoodPublicity for their appearances.]]



* PublicDomainCharacter: Boss Tweed, head of New York City's Tammany Hall Democratic machine and (therefore) more or less boss of working-class New York (rich people were, increasingly, Republicans). Bill is also based on a real person, but many more [[ArtisticLicense liberties]] are taken with him (including the name of the character) in order to make a compelling story.

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* PublicDomainCharacter: Boss Tweed, head of New York City's Tammany Hall Democratic machine and (therefore) more or less boss of working-class New York (rich people were, increasingly, Republicans). Bill is also based on a real person, but many more [[ArtisticLicense liberties]] liberties are taken with him (including the name of the character) in order to make a compelling story.



* TheQuisling: Mulraney and [=McGloin=] have thrown their lot in with the natives after the end of the Dead Rabbits. It [[KarmicDeath comes back to bite them both]] later.
* RealityIsUnrealistic: the fight scenes contain no ramping, slow motion or elaborate choreography and look brutal and bloody. People are punched, stabbed and hacked down, falling over realistically, in probably one of the most accurate depictions of a massive brawl in recent cinema. This may make the fights look ridiculous or overly crude and disgusting compared to the fight choreography and special effects in contemporary films.

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* TheQuisling: Mulraney and [=McGloin=] have thrown their lot in with the natives after the end of the Dead Rabbits. It [[KarmicDeath comes back to bite them both]] both later.
* RealityIsUnrealistic: the The fight scenes contain no ramping, slow motion or elaborate choreography and look brutal and bloody. People are punched, stabbed and hacked down, falling over realistically, in probably one of the most accurate depictions of a massive brawl in recent cinema. This may make the fights look ridiculous or overly crude and disgusting compared to the fight choreography and special effects in contemporary films.



* TheResenter: Johnny. [[spoiler: [[MurderTheHypotenuse It doesn't]] [[ForgivenessRequiresDeath end well.]]]]
* ResetButtonEnding ([[DistantFinale sort of]]):

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* TheResenter: Johnny. [[spoiler: [[MurderTheHypotenuse It doesn't]] [[ForgivenessRequiresDeath doesn't end well.]]]]
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* ResetButtonEnding ([[DistantFinale sort of]]):(sort of):



* SlidingScaleOfShinyVersusGritty: Like ''Theatre/{{Oliver}}'' 's cleaned-up version of Victorian England, Scorsese's 1864 is surprisingly bright (the real New York of the 1860's, particularly the lowly Five Points district, would have had [[TheDungAges far more manure on the streets and pigs running around]]). Although there's a good deal of gritty in the characters.

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* SlidingScaleOfShinyVersusGritty: Like ''Theatre/{{Oliver}}'' 's cleaned-up version of Victorian England, Scorsese's 1864 is surprisingly bright (the real New York of the 1860's, particularly the lowly Five Points district, would have had [[TheDungAges far more manure on the streets and pigs running around]]).around). Although there's a good deal of gritty in the characters.



* TheTheTitleConfusion
* TimePassesMontage: One of the most famous things about the film is the very end. Miramax had a lot of problems with it in the wake of 9-11, causing it to be delayed a whole year, sadly.
* TorchesAndPitchforks: The New York Draft Riots are initially a protest over the Union drafts, but quickly devolves into a [[TheRevolutionWillNotBeCivilized deadly lynch mob]].

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* %%* TheTheTitleConfusion
* TimePassesMontage: One of the most famous things about the film is the very end. Miramax had a lot of problems with it in the wake of 9-11, 9/11, causing it to be delayed a whole year, sadly.
* TorchesAndPitchforks: The New York Draft Riots are initially a protest over the Union drafts, but quickly devolves into a [[TheRevolutionWillNotBeCivilized deadly lynch mob]].mob.



* TruthInTelevision:The fight between the two groups of firefighters. Fights like that were one of the reasons why city run fire departments (such as FDNY) had all but replaced the system of multiple volunteer units by the turn of the century. Its wasn't uncommon for units to A. try to snag fires outside their designated area and B. sabotage if not outright attack other departments operating at the scene. The reason was that the first volunteer department at the scene would get paid a larger amount than subsequent crews. In fact, if a member of a department got their early, he would put a barrel over a fire plug and sit on it, fending other departments off til his crew came; they became known as "plug uglies".

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* TruthInTelevision:The fight between the two groups of firefighters. Fights like that were one of the reasons why city run fire departments (such as FDNY) had all but replaced the system of multiple volunteer units by the turn of the century. Its It wasn't uncommon for units to A. try to snag fires outside their designated area and B. sabotage if not outright attack other departments operating at the scene. The reason was that the first volunteer department at the scene would get paid a larger amount than subsequent crews. In fact, if a member of a department got their early, he would put a barrel over a fire plug and sit on it, fending other departments off til his crew came; they became known as "plug uglies".



* ViolentGlaswegian: Sub in an [[{{Oireland}} Irishman for a Scotsman]] and the trope is played totally straight.

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* ViolentGlaswegian: Sub in an [[{{Oireland}} Irishman for a Scotsman]] Scotsman and the trope is played totally straight.
15th Aug '16 1:11:55 PM AnotherGuy
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** Amsterdam and Bill. Compare Bill's backstory and Amsterdam's arc [[spoiler: post-beatdown]].

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** Amsterdam and Bill. Compare Bill's backstory and Amsterdam's arc [[spoiler: post-beatdown]]. Heck, when Bill is watching Monk's funeral procession, he's not there to intimidate anyone or mock the procession. He's waiting for Amsterdam, and he gets exactly what he expected/hoped: Amsterdam to tell him, "Challenge". Bill smiles genuinely and replies warmly, "Challenge accepted." He's pleased that Amsterdam is learning "the laws of ancient combat".
5th Aug '16 3:26:22 PM plcthecd
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* BittersweetEnding: [[spoiler: Amsterdam finally gets gets his revenge and kills Bill, and he leaves New York with Jenny. But New York was devastated by the draft riots, and both sides are dead. Despite this, New York will be rebuilt.]]

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* BittersweetEnding: [[spoiler: Amsterdam finally gets gets his revenge and kills Bill, and he leaves New York with Jenny. But New York was devastated by the draft riots, and many on both sides are dead. Despite this, New York will be rebuilt.]]
2nd May '16 8:43:20 PM Red-Dead-Redeemer
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* GenreBusting : Screenwriter Jay Cocks described the film as a "Western from Mars", it;s a re imagining of the past as a post-apocalyptic wasteland, with violent urban street gangs in a context with real menace and violence rather than WestSideStory, and a focus and interest on UrbanSegregation that would make sociologists and anthropologists proud. Scorsese indeed hoped that the film would launch a new genre to replace TheWestern, believing that stories in this landscape will have increasing resonance in the years to come.

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* GenreBusting : GenreBusting: Screenwriter Jay Cocks described the film as a "Western from Mars", it;s it's a re imagining re-imagining of the past as a post-apocalyptic wasteland, with violent urban street gangs in a context with real menace and violence rather than WestSideStory, and a focus and interest on UrbanSegregation that would make sociologists and anthropologists proud. Scorsese indeed hoped that the film would launch a new genre to replace TheWestern, believing that stories in this landscape will have increasing resonance in the years to come.
11th Apr '16 8:08:27 AM Pallo
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-->'''Bill:''' I could spare ten of you much easier than I could spare him.

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-->'''Bill:''' I could spare ten half a dozen of you much easier than I could spare him.
6th Apr '16 7:40:50 PM Red-Dead-Redeemer
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* CurbstompBattle: Angry rioters and gangsters armed with whatever was lying around against trained infantry with rifles backed by artillery? The army takes at most''one'' onscreen casualty vs. the dozens if not hundreds of people buried in unmarked graves.

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* CurbstompBattle: Angry rioters and gangsters armed with whatever was lying around against trained infantry with rifles backed by artillery? The army takes at most''one'' most ''one'' onscreen casualty vs. the dozens if not hundreds of people buried in unmarked graves.



* DoesntLikeGuns - Bill the Butcher doesn't like to use guns when he fights, preferring to stick to [[KnifeNut meat cleavers and butcher's knives]], because he follows a strict code of honor. His arch-rival Priest Vallon held the same belief, so when Bill's Natives faced off against Vallon's Dead Rabbits the fight included just about every weapon ''but'' guns. This also goes for later in the movie when young Amsterdam Vallon and the resurrected Dead Rabbits negotiate a duel with Bill's gang, and when agreeing on what weapons will be allowed, Amsterdam specifies that there will be no pistols, to which Bill replies "Good boy."
** SecretTestOfCharacter: Bill actually suggests pistols to him, prompting Amsterdam to refuse them.
* TheDragon: "Happy Jack" Mulraney to Bill

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* DoesntLikeGuns - DoesntLikeGuns: Bill the Butcher doesn't like to use guns when he fights, preferring to stick to [[KnifeNut meat cleavers and butcher's knives]], because he follows a strict code of honor. His arch-rival Priest Vallon held the same belief, so when Bill's Natives faced off against Vallon's Dead Rabbits the fight included just about every weapon ''but'' guns. This also goes for later in the movie when young Amsterdam Vallon and the resurrected Dead Rabbits negotiate a duel with Bill's gang, and when agreeing on what weapons will be allowed, Amsterdam specifies that there will be no pistols, to which Bill replies "Good boy."
** SecretTestOfCharacter: Bill actually suggests pistols to him, prompting Amsterdam to refuse them.
" Then the Union infantry spoil everything with their rifles and artillery.
* TheDragon: "Happy Jack" Mulraney to BillBill.



* EvenEvilHasStandards: Bill absolutely despises liars, cheats, backstabbers and dishonourable behaviour in general.

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* EvenEvilHasStandards: Bill absolutely despises liars, cheats, backstabbers and dishonourable behaviour dishonorable behavior in general.



* FamousLastWords: "Thank God, I die a true American." Bill the Butcher's last words, both in RealLife and in the film.[[note]]Though their fictional and real life deaths do not mirror each other precisely; for one, William Poole, the Butcher's insperation, died eight years earlier. [[/note]]
* FinalBattle: Lampshaded.
* FloatingHeadSyndrome: [[MisplacedNamesPoster With jumbled names to boot!]] I never knew that Cameron Diaz had such a cool moustache!

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* FamousLastWords: "Thank God, I die a true American." Bill the Butcher's last words, both in RealLife and in the film.[[note]]Though their fictional and real life deaths do not mirror each other precisely; for one, William Poole, the Butcher's insperation, inspiration, died eight years earlier. [[/note]]
* FinalBattle: Lampshaded.
Lampshaded and subverted. Just as Bill and Amsterdam are finally about to throw down, suddenly loud thunder sounds off in the distance as everyone stands around trying to figure out what that noise was, followed by explosions. Then the army comes in and starts massacring everyone.
* FloatingHeadSyndrome: [[MisplacedNamesPoster With jumbled names to boot!]] I never knew that Cameron Diaz had such a cool moustache!mustache!



* {{Gangsterland}}: Everybody in the Five Points is either in one of the gangs or has been bribed into doing the gangs' bidding. Even priests, missionaries, politicians and rich people are involved wit them.

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* {{Gangsterland}}: Everybody in the Five Points is either in one of the gangs or has been bribed into doing the gangs' bidding. Even priests, missionaries, politicians and rich people are involved wit with them.



* GenreBusting : Screenwriter Jay Cocks described the film as a "Western from Mars", its a reimagination of the past as a post-apocalyptic wasteland, with violent urban street gangs in a context with real menace and violence rather than WestSideStory, and a focus and interest on UrbanSegregation that would make sociologists and anthropologists proud. Scorsese indeed hoped that the film would launch a new genre to replace TheWestern, believing that stories in this landscape will have increasing resonance in the years to come.

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* GenreBusting : Screenwriter Jay Cocks described the film as a "Western from Mars", its it;s a reimagination re imagining of the past as a post-apocalyptic wasteland, with violent urban street gangs in a context with real menace and violence rather than WestSideStory, and a focus and interest on UrbanSegregation that would make sociologists and anthropologists proud. Scorsese indeed hoped that the film would launch a new genre to replace TheWestern, believing that stories in this landscape will have increasing resonance in the years to come.



-->'''Bill:''' Look at that. What in Christ's name is that? Rythms of the [[DarkestAfrica dark continent]], thrown into the kettle with an [[{{Oireland}} irish shindig]]. Stir it around a few times, pour it out as a fine American mess. A [[NWordPrivileges jig]] doing a jig.

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-->'''Bill:''' Look at that. What in Christ's name is that? Rythms Rhythms of the [[DarkestAfrica dark continent]], thrown into the kettle with an [[{{Oireland}} irish Irish shindig]]. Stir it around a few times, pour it out as a fine American mess. A [[NWordPrivileges jig]] doing a jig.



* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: His last name is "Cutting." And everyone refers to him as "The Butcher."

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* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: His Bill's last name is "Cutting." And everyone refers to him as "The Butcher."



* OrphansPlotTrinket: Priest Vallon's shaving razor. It turns out Monk went rifling through Vallon's effects [[spoiler:[[ItMayHelpYouOnYourQuest to retrieve it for]]]] the orphaned Vallon years later.

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* OrphansPlotTrinket: Priest Vallon's shaving razor. It turns out Monk went rifling through Vallon's effects [[spoiler:[[ItMayHelpYouOnYourQuest [[ItMayHelpYouOnYourQuest to retrieve it for]]]] for]] the orphaned Vallon years later.


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* SecretTestOfCharacter: Bill actually suggests pistols to him, for the FinalBattle prompting Amsterdam to refuse them.
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* TheCavalry: Technically, the infanty, but once the riot breaks out, there's a montage of violent scenes and telegraph reports about how the police are totally unable to contain the riot, the rioters have taken control of the city, all the police have been put out of action or are unaccounted for, there's no hope, and then, suddenly, "From 16th, the 7th regiment has arrived, foot of Canal Street. They are on their way to Broadway." There's still a lot of fighting before the mob is put down, but you know the tide has turned.

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* TheCavalry: Technically, the infanty, infantry, but once the riot breaks out, there's a montage of violent scenes and telegraph reports about how the police are totally unable to contain the riot, the rioters have taken control of the city, all the police have been put out of action or are unaccounted for, there's no hope, and then, suddenly, "From 16th, the 7th regiment has arrived, foot of Canal Street. They are on their way to Broadway." There's still a lot of fighting before the mob is put down, but you know the tide has turned.



* CostumePorn: The upper class are only in it for twenty minutes, yet the lower class clothes and all their pretty colours are on full display for most of the time.

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* CostumePorn: The upper class are only in it for twenty minutes, yet the lower class clothes and all their pretty colours colors are on full display for most of the time.



* CultureClash: Particularly between "natives" and immigrants, mixed with racism, UrbanSegregation, poverty

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* CultureClash: Particularly between "natives" and immigrants, mixed with racism, UrbanSegregation, povertyand poverty.
* CurbstompBattle: Angry rioters and gangsters armed with whatever was lying around against trained infantry with rifles backed by artillery? The army takes at most''one'' onscreen casualty vs. the dozens if not hundreds of people buried in unmarked graves.



* HonorBeforeReason: This is pretty much Johnny's undoing. [[spoiler:He tips Bill off that Amsterdam plans to murder him, and Amsterdam is generous enough to prove Johnny right that same evening. After the assassination attempt failed, Johnny ought to have been sitting pretty favorably in Bill's eye. But then Johnny's guilty conscience impels him to rejoin Amsterdam's crew and, further, to confess his betrayal. Amsterdam turns him out on his ear, and when Bill's men sieze Johnny, the Butcher evidently decides his loyalty isn't worth too much. If Johnny had just stuck with Bill after ratting Amsterdam out, he might've been a lot less sympathetic, but he'd also have been a lot less dead.]]

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* HonorBeforeReason: This is pretty much Johnny's undoing. [[spoiler:He tips Bill off that Amsterdam plans to murder him, and Amsterdam is generous enough to prove Johnny right that same evening. After the assassination attempt failed, Johnny ought to have been sitting pretty favorably in Bill's eye. But then Johnny's guilty conscience impels him to rejoin Amsterdam's crew and, further, to confess his betrayal. Amsterdam turns him out on his ear, and when Bill's men sieze seize Johnny, the Butcher evidently decides his loyalty isn't worth too much. If Johnny had just stuck with Bill after ratting Amsterdam out, he might've been a lot less sympathetic, but he'd also have been a lot less dead.]]



** Most of the Bill's hatred for the Irish is hilarious considering Day-Lewis himself is a naturalised Irish Citizen.

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** Most of the Bill's hatred for the Irish is hilarious considering Day-Lewis himself is a naturalised naturalized Irish Citizen.



* KnifeThrowingAct: Bill stages an impropmtu one with Jenny as the target.

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* KnifeThrowingAct: Bill stages an impropmtu impromptu one with Jenny as the target.



** Likewise, Mr. Schermerhorn and Mr. Greeley

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** Likewise, Mr. Schermerhorn and Mr. GreeleyGreeley.



* {{Revenge}}
* TheRevolutionWillNotBeCivilized: The Draft Riots

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* {{Revenge}}
{{Revenge}}: Amsterdam wants to kill Bill for killing his father.
* TheRevolutionWillNotBeCivilized: The Draft RiotsRiots, especially when they start attacking people in rich clothes and lynching black people.



* SceneryGorn

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* SceneryGornSceneryGorn: New York, the Five Points especially, circa the American Civil War ain't exactly all that pretty. Some would argue that the naval bombing at the end of the film actually improved the property value.
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* FaceDeathWithDignity: Both Amsterdam's father and [[spoiler:Bill]] serenely accept their defeats, even honored to be killed by a WorthyOpponent.
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* RuleOfSymbolism: [=McGloin=]'s death at the hands of the Union Army - he was both a Dead Rabbit and a Nativist.
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** Happy Jack, who sorts of becomes TheBrute
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