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* AccidentalMisnaming: Lucifer, only remembering that her name was a shade of red, thinks that Carmilla's last name is "Scarlet". Luckily this is before the ball actually starts, so Charlie corrects him.
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* QuirkyGirlQuirkyTux: In Chapter 8, Vaggie, who is around 18 and in a rebellious phase, wears a half dress, half tuxedo similar to the one Michael Urie once wore to a royal ball.
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* FantasyForbiddingMother: Carmilla's very much against Vaggie's work with the Hazbin Hotel, and the two apparently had a massive argument about it that left them on silent terms.
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* MyBelovedSmother: By the time Vaggie hits her adult years and works at the Hazbin Hotel, she calls Carmilla out on being this. While it ''is'' justified by the fact that her daughter's a FallenAngel (which would paint a massive target on her back if Hell found out), Vaggie still finds it immensely frustrating. Part of the issue is that Vaggie doesn't ''remember'' her origins by this point, and Carmilla won't ''tell'' her out of paranoia, so she can tell that something about the Hotel scares Carmilla but has no idea ''what'' specifically it is.
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* IdentityAmnesia: By the time she hits her adult years, Vaggie's has long since forgotten that she's a FallenAngel and genuinely believes she's a Sinner demon. This is a major source of conflict between her and Carmilla, as her work with the Hazbin Hotel runs the risk of Vaggie regaining her past identity and potentially making her a target, and Carmilla actively trying to keep that fact a secret means she refuses to tell Vaggie ''why'' she doesn't want her there.
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* IdentityAmnesia: By the time she hits her adult years, Vaggie's Vaggie has long since forgotten that she's a FallenAngel and genuinely believes she's a Sinner demon. This is a major source of conflict between her and Carmilla, as her work with the Hazbin Hotel runs the risk of Vaggie regaining her past identity and potentially making her a target, and Carmilla actively trying to keep that fact a secret means she refuses to tell Vaggie ''why'' she doesn't want her there.there.
* InterspeciesAdoption: Carmilla, a human turned sinner demon, adopts Vaggie, a little fallen angel.
* InterspeciesAdoption: Carmilla, a human turned sinner demon, adopts Vaggie, a little fallen angel.
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* IdentityAmnesia: By the time she hits her adult years, Vaggie's Vaggie has long since forgotten that she's a FallenAngel and genuinely believes she's a Sinner demon. This is a major source of conflict between her and Carmilla, as her work with the Hazbin Hotel runs the risk of Vaggie regaining her past identity and potentially making her a target, and Carmilla actively trying to keep that fact a secret means she refuses to tell Vaggie ''why'' she doesn't want her there.there.
* InterspeciesAdoption: Carmilla, a human turned sinner demon, adopts Vaggie, a little fallen angel.
* InterspeciesAdoption: Carmilla, a human turned sinner demon, adopts Vaggie, a little fallen angel.
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* BigSisterInstinct: Odette and Clara immediately show concern for little Vaggie's injuries when they first see her, and easily accept her as their foster sister. According to Camilla, they both adore her.
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* HarmfulToMinors: When Vaggie is only a little girl, Adam and Lute try to make her kill a sinner. She is too afraid to do it, so they cut her wings off, slash our her eye and leave her for dead in Hell.
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* BrokenAngel: Little Vaggie isn't used to walking everywhere after losing her wings. She wants to be carried by her mother a lot.
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* ForeignCussWord: Carmilla mutters ''"Hostia puta!"'' (Spanisfor "holy shit") when she finds Zestial suddenly in her chambers.
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* AdaptationalVillainy: If you thought Adam and Lute mutilating Vaggie and leaving her for dead in Hell was bad in canon, try reading about them doing it to her as a little girl.
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* PoorCommunicationKills: The issues Carmilla and Vaggie have when the latter is an adult are partially fueled by the fact that not only has Vaggie forgotten that she's an angel, but that Carmilla won't ''tell'' her that she's an angel, even when she's helping Charlie with the Hotel and thus potentially putting herself back in Heaven's sights, so Vaggie can tell that something about the Hotel scares her mother but not what ''specifically'' that is.
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* SecretKeeper: Zestial is the only one that Carmilla gives the full story about Vaggie's origins to.
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* SickEpisode: Chapter 6 has Carmilla come down with the flu.
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* LikeMotherLikeDaughter: Despite being adopted, it's made clear Vaggie takes a lot after Carmilla, with both being no-nonsense, tough-as-nails, and having ''very'' fierce tempers when provoked. Husk notes the similarities are to the point where he'd have assumed they were biologically related if he wasn't told otherwise.
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* SecretSecretKeeper: Husk is well aware that Vaggie's a FallenAngel since she unwittingly told him when she was still a child. While it's clear Vaggie neither remembers Husk nor even that she's from Heaven by her adult years, he still strives to keep the secret in order to protect her.
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* IdentityAmnesia: By the time she hits her adult years, Vaggie's has long since forgotten that she's a FallenAngel and genuinely believes she's just a Sinner demon. This is a major source of conflict between her and Carmilla, as her work with the Hazbin Hotel runs the risk of Vaggie regaining her past identity and potentially making her a target, and the fact that Carmilla's Carmilla actively trying to keep that fact a secret means she refuses to tell Vaggie ''why'' she doesn't want her there.
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* MyBelovedSmother: By the time Vaggie hits her adult years and works at the Hazbin Hotel, she calls Carmilla out on being this. While it ''is'' justified by the fact that her daughter's a FallenAngel (which would paint a massive target on her back if Hell found out), Vaggie still finds it immensely frustrating. Part of the issue is that Vaggie doesn't ''remember'' that she's a FallenAngel her origins by this point, so she can tell that something about the Hotel scares Carmilla but has no idea ''what'' specifically it is.
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* InSpiteOfANail: Despite Vaggie having fallen at a much earlier age and getting adopted by Carmilla, she still ends up meeting and dating Charlie, with them still working on the Hazbin Hotel years later.
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* ForgottenFirstMeeting: Husk first met Vaggie in this AU when Alastor offered Carmilla his services watching Vaggie at a gala for Velvette officially joining with Vox and Valentino and he ended up taking her flying. They met up a few more times before Alastor put a stop to it, and a flash-forward to after the Hotel gets started establishes that Vaggie doesn't remember him.
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* LoopholeAbuse: Alastor should be able to force Husk to give up what he's learned about Vaggie when he questions the cat demon, but since Alastor had made Husk swear a binding oath to keep the girl safe when forcibly offering Husk's services, Husk is able to lie to Alastor's face because telling him that Vaggie is a FallenAngel would make her anything ''but'' safe.
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* IsThatCuteKidYours: When Alastor offers Husk's services watching Vaggie when the family and Zestial are at a party celebrating Velvette officially joining Vox and Valentino with the other Overlords, the former Overlord assumes that Carmilla and Zestial somehow managed to get around the limitation that Sinners can't have biological children instead of Vaggie being adopted.
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* VillainTakesAnInterest: Alastor is visiting Rosie when Carmilla and Zestial visit to get Vaggie some new clothes, and seems to sense something about her. He later volunteers Husk's services as a babysitter when they're at a party for Velvette.
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''[[https://archiveofourown.org/works/53713609/chapters/135972472 Did It Hurt When You Fell?]]'' is an AU story of ''WesternAnimation/HazbinHotel'', in which Vaggie [[FallenAngel falls]] as a child and is taken in by Carmilla Carmine, who witnessed the event.
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* AgeLift:
** Vaggie is a child, around four or five years old, when she's cast into Hell in this AU, in contrast to canon when she's an adult.
** Lute herself first appears when she's around sixteen or seventeen.
* ChildSoldiers: Adam tries to make Vaggie, who can't be older than four or five and whose Exorcist helmet is almost comically oversized, kill a Sinner, and Lute is apparently only in her mid-to-late teens herself at the time.
* ConscienceMakesYouGoBack: After witnessing Vaggie's mutilation and abandonment from within her safehouse, Carmilla ducks out to grab the angelic weapon Lute left behind in a Sinner they were trying to make the girl kill, and hears Vaggie's cries from under a tarp in a nearby alleyway. She makes it all the way back to the door, but she ultimately ducks back and grabs the young FallenAngel, taking her to safety.
* HappilyAdopted: Vaggie is taken in by Carmilla, who witnessed her mutilation from inside her safehouse, in this AU.
* PuppyDogEyes: Name-dropped by Carmilla when Vaggie gets Zestial to carry her when Carmilla tells her to walk (since she's used to flying and Carmilla is trying to get her accustomed to walking on her own).
* WouldHurtAChild: Adam screams at Vaggie and slaps her ''hard'' when he can't make her finish off a Sinner despite her only being four or five, and stands by when Lute mutilates her and leaves her for dead.
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* AgeLift:
** Vaggie is a child, around four or five years old, when she's cast into Hell in this AU, in contrast to canon when she's an adult.
** Lute herself first appears when she's around sixteen or seventeen.
* ChildSoldiers: Adam tries to make Vaggie, who can't be older than four or five and whose Exorcist helmet is almost comically oversized, kill a Sinner, and Lute is apparently only in her mid-to-late teens herself at the time.
* ConscienceMakesYouGoBack: After witnessing Vaggie's mutilation and abandonment from within her safehouse, Carmilla ducks out to grab the angelic weapon Lute left behind in a Sinner they were trying to make the girl kill, and hears Vaggie's cries from under a tarp in a nearby alleyway. She makes it all the way back to the door, but she ultimately ducks back and grabs the young FallenAngel, taking her to safety.
* HappilyAdopted: Vaggie is taken in by Carmilla, who witnessed her mutilation from inside her safehouse, in this AU.
* PuppyDogEyes: Name-dropped by Carmilla when Vaggie gets Zestial to carry her when Carmilla tells her to walk (since she's used to flying and Carmilla is trying to get her accustomed to walking on her own).
* WouldHurtAChild: Adam screams at Vaggie and slaps her ''hard'' when he can't make her finish off a Sinner despite her only being four or five, and stands by when Lute mutilates her and leaves her for dead.
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