History FanFic / HarryPotterAndTheMethodsOfRationality

22nd Mar '17 11:00:21 AM DustSnitch
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* RomanticismVersusEnlightenment: Dumbledore's conversations with Harry often seem to invoke this conflict. Essentially, the whole premise of the story is putting an Enlightenment hero in Rowling's Romanticist PotterVerse.

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* RomanticismVersusEnlightenment: Dumbledore's conversations with Harry often seem to invoke this conflict. Essentially, the whole premise of the story is putting an Enlightenment hero in Rowling's Romanticist PotterVerse.'Franchise/HarryPotter''.
21st Mar '17 10:04:38 PM ImpudentInfidel
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** How Harry gets around the promises he had to make before meeting with the Malfoys in Gringotts.

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** How Harry gets around the promises he had to make before meeting with the Malfoys in Gringotts. Bonus points for getting it ready before he made the promise.
11th Mar '17 8:11:15 AM nombretomado
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* FamilyFeud: Harry really [[DefiedTrope doesn't want one]] with Draco.
8th Feb '17 10:25:42 AM ChronoLegion
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* MugglesDoItBetter: A large part of the premise; Muggle ''technology'' isn't necessarily better than magic, but the wizarding world clearly could use a hearty dose of the scientific method. Even that caveat is clearly temporary; Muggles have only really just got the ball rolling on serious science in the last few centuries, while magic has been in serious decline far longer.

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* MugglesDoItBetter: A large part of the premise; Muggle ''technology'' isn't necessarily better than magic, but the wizarding world clearly could use a hearty dose of the scientific method. Even that caveat is clearly temporary; Muggles have only really just got the ball rolling on serious science in the last few centuries, while magic has been in serious decline far longer. At the same time, wizards don't even think about certain possibilities. For example, when Harry tries to point out how science can be, in some ways, superior to magic, he shows him a picture of the first Moon landing, shocking Malfoy that such a thing is even possible. In Draco's mind, the best way to travel is via Apparation, and you can't Apparete where you've never been (e.g. the Moon). Draco also initially assumes the spacesuits are strange creatures until Harry explains that there's no air on the Moon.
7th Feb '17 6:43:15 PM Qussow
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* CynicismCatalyst: Quirrell is one for the Hogwarts students as a whole and Harry in particular while teaching Battle Magic. In keeping with his ambiguous characterization, he makes some good points and is even applauded by some outside observers. [[spoiler: After Hermione's death, he fears he succeed [[GoneHorriblyRight a little too well]] and tries to reverse his effects a bit.]]
5th Feb '17 5:08:07 AM Malady
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* AndThatsTerrible:
** From Chapter 19:
--> Professor Quirrell's lips were set in a thin line. "I will reluctantly teach you enough trivia for a passing mark on the Ministry-mandated portions of your first-year finals. Since your exact mark on these sections will make no difference to your future life, anyone who wants more than a passing mark is welcome to waste their own time studying our pathetic excuse for a textbook. The title of this subject is not Defence Against Minor Pests. You are here to learn how to defend yourselves against the Dark Arts. Which means, let us be very clear on this, defending yourselves against Dark Wizards. People with wands who want to hurt you and who will likely succeed in doing so unless you hurt them first! There is no defence without offence! There is no defence without fighting! This reality is deemed too harsh for eleven-year-olds by the fat, overpaid, Auror-guarded politicians who mandated your curriculum. To the abyss with those fools! You are here for the subject that has been taught at Hogwarts for eight hundred years! Welcome to your first year of Battle Magic!"
--> Harry started applauding. He couldn't help himself, it was too inspiring.
** And from the same chapter:
--> Professor Quirrell's voice was sympathetic and seemed to fill the whole room. "Knowing things isn't always enough, Miss Granger. If you cannot give and receive violence on the order of stubbing your toe, then you cannot defend yourself and you will not pass Defence. Please rejoin your classmates."
--> Hermione walked back towards the Ravenclaw cluster. Her face looked peaceful and Harry, for some odd reason, wanted to start clapping. Even though Professor Quirrell had been ''right''.
7th Jan '17 4:45:15 PM Gosicrystal
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* AbusiveParents: Averted. The aversion is {{Lampshaded}}.
-->'''Harry''': They, ah, I have to do dishes and wash math problems and they don't let me read a lot of books andó-

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* AbusiveParents: AbusiveParents:
**
Averted. The aversion is {{Lampshaded}}.
-->'''Harry''': -->'''Harry:''' They, ah, I have to do dishes and wash math problems and they don't let me read a lot of books andó-



* AffablyEvil: Randolph Lee.

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%% * AffablyEvil: Randolph Lee.



%%* AndThenJohnWasAZombie: Per Word of God on the discussion page, not a deliberate reference, so please don't add it here or under ShoutOut.

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%%* %% * AndThenJohnWasAZombie: Per Word of God on the discussion page, not a deliberate reference, so please don't add it here or under ShoutOut.



* AndTheAdventureContinues: [[spoiler: Voldemort is defeated and the Death Eaters are wiped out, now the ''REAL'' struggle to save humanity begins.]]

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* AndTheAdventureContinues: [[spoiler: Voldemort [[spoiler:Voldemort is defeated and the Death Eaters are wiped out, now the ''REAL'' struggle to save humanity begins.]]



* AntiVillain: Snape, Quirrell, Lucius.
* AnyoneCanDie: ''Anyone''.
* AppealToRidicule: Discussed in chapter 101.

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%% * AntiVillain: Snape, Quirrell, AntiVillain:
%% ** Snape.
%% ** Quirrell.
%% **
Lucius.
%% * AnyoneCanDie: ''Anyone''.
AnyoneCanDie
%%
* AppealToRidicule: Discussed in chapter 101.



* AscendedExtra: Some characters with only background roles in the original series have much more fleshed out parts, most notably Blaise Zabini.

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* AscendedExtra: AscendedExtra:
**
Some characters with only background roles in the original series have much more fleshed out parts, most notably Blaise Zabini.



** When [[spoiler: Bellatrix Black]] incredulously says "I'm... alive...?", Harry is tempted to say "no" just to see the reaction.

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** When [[spoiler: Bellatrix [[spoiler:Bellatrix Black]] incredulously says "I'm... alive...?", Harry is tempted to say "no" just to see the reaction.



** [[spoiler: Hermione post-resurrection was magically mixed with a unicorn. She's rather excited to see exactly what her new found supernatural grace and strength will let he do, but she's off put by the aura of innocence and purity she exudes. She also now has to borrow the Sword of Gryffindor to trim her finger nails.]]
* BackFromTheDead: [[spoiler: Hermione. [[PlotArmor Like it was that surprising]]. Narcissa Malfoy as well.]]

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** [[spoiler: Hermione [[spoiler:Hermione post-resurrection was magically mixed with a unicorn. She's rather excited to see exactly what her new found supernatural grace and strength will let he do, but she's off put by the aura of innocence and purity she exudes. She also now has to borrow the Sword of Gryffindor to trim her finger nails.]]
%% * BackFromTheDead: [[spoiler: Hermione. BackFromTheDead:
%% ** [[spoiler:Hermione.]]
[[PlotArmor Like it was that surprising]]. Narcissa Malfoy as well.surprising]].
%% ** [[spoiler:Narcissa Malfoy.
]]



* BeingGoodSucks

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* BeingGoodSucksBeingGoodSucks:



* BewareTheNiceOnes: Chapter 30. [[spoiler: Rationalist!Harry (with a secret dark side) and Draco (raised by a flawless instrument of death to be his successor) are fighting Hermione, whose army is named the Sunshine Army and whose badge is a smiley face. One guess who wins.]]
** And again in Chapter 78:

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* BewareTheNiceOnes: BewareTheNiceOnes:
**
Chapter 30. [[spoiler: Rationalist!Harry (with a secret dark side) and Draco (raised by a flawless instrument of death to be his successor) are fighting Hermione, whose army is named the Sunshine Army and whose badge is a smiley face. One guess who wins.]]
** And again in In Chapter 78:



* {{Blackmail}}

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* {{Blackmail}}{{Blackmail}}:



** Quidditch without the GoldenSnitch.
*** And the explanation for it. Harry speculates when he first learns about the GoldenSnitch that it was added so the king's idiot son could play without having the ability to play the real positions. In the epilogue, a Quidditch fanatic confirms that [[spoiler:Helga Hufflepuff invented the Snitch for essentially that reason, except it was to include incompetent students rather than benefit a prince.]]

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** Quidditch without the GoldenSnitch.
*** And
GoldenSnitch, and the explanation for it. Harry speculates when he first learns about the GoldenSnitch that it was added so the king's idiot son could play without having the ability to play the real positions. In the epilogue, a Quidditch fanatic confirms that [[spoiler:Helga Hufflepuff invented the Snitch for essentially that reason, except it was to include incompetent students rather than benefit a prince.]]



* CallBack

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* CallBackCallBack:



* CallingYourAttacks

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* CallingYourAttacksCallingYourAttacks:



* ChekhovsGun: Harry's father's rock. Discussed outright in chapter 97.

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%% * ChekhovsGun: Harry's father's rock. Discussed outright in chapter 97.



* TheChessmaster: Dumbledore, Lucius Malfoy, and Voldemort.
** [[spoiler:As of chapter 119, Dumbledore turns out to be THE chessmaster.]]

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%% * TheChessmaster: Dumbledore, TheChessmaster:
%% ** Dumbledore.
%% **
Lucius Malfoy, and Voldemort.
Malfoy.
%%
** [[spoiler:As of chapter 119, Dumbledore turns out to be THE chessmaster.]]Voldemort.



** And again at the end of Chapter 113:
---> [[spoiler: This is your final exam.\\

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** And again at At the end of Chapter 113:
---> [[spoiler: This [[spoiler:This is your final exam.\\



* ComicallyMissingThePoint

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* ComicallyMissingThePointComicallyMissingThePoint:



* ComplexityAddiction: Lucius is definitely against this. According to his "RuleOfThree", any real-world diabolical scheme will only work if it depends on no more than three events happening, unlike in fiction (note that the lead-in to giving Draco this lecture was a play titled ''[[Manga/DeathNote The Tragedy of Light]]''). And since "only a fool would attempt a plot that was ''as complicated as possible'', the real limit was two."

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* ComplexityAddiction: Lucius is definitely against this. According to his "RuleOfThree", any real-world diabolical scheme will only work if it depends on no more than three events happening, unlike in fiction (note that the lead-in to giving Draco this lecture was a play titled ''[[Manga/DeathNote The Tragedy of Light]]''). And since "only a fool would attempt a plot that was ''as complicated as possible'', the real limit was two.""\\\



* CourtroomEpisode: Chapters 80 and 81 in Taboo Tradeoffs.
* CrazyPrepared

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%% * CourtroomEpisode: Chapters 80 and 81 in Taboo Tradeoffs.
* CrazyPreparedCrazyPrepared:



** And Moody himself.

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** And Moody himself.



* DarkMistress: Bellatrix.

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%% * DarkMistress: Bellatrix.



* DeadpanSnarker:
** Snape seems to have elements of this. Professor [=McGonagall=], in hysterics, points out that the remarkably disruptive Harry Potter has an invisibility cloak, is immune to mind-reading (and, due to the same discipline, is able to resist truth-potions), and is [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking friends with the Weasley twins]], to which Dumbledore helpfully adds mention of the Time Turner. Snape then contributes:
--->'''Snape:''' Should I teach him to brew Polyjuice, Headmaster? I ask only for the sake of completeness, in case you are not satisfied with the magnitude of your pet disaster.\\

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* DeadpanSnarker:
**
DeadpanSnarker: Snape seems to have elements of this. Professor [=McGonagall=], in hysterics, points out that the remarkably disruptive Harry Potter has an invisibility cloak, is immune to mind-reading (and, due to the same discipline, is able to resist truth-potions), and is [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking friends with the Weasley twins]], to which Dumbledore helpfully adds mention of the Time Turner. Snape then contributes:
--->'''Snape:''' -->'''Snape:''' Should I teach him to brew Polyjuice, Headmaster? I ask only for the sake of completeness, in case you are not satisfied with the magnitude of your pet disaster.\\



* DeconstructionFic: Multiple tropes are {{Deconstructed}}.

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%% * DeconstructionFic: Multiple tropes are {{Deconstructed}}.DeconstructionFic



--> '''[[spoiler:Tracey]]''': "That's Darke Lady spelled D-A-R-K-E, with an E!"
--> '''[[spoiler:Snape]]''': Seers are the pawns of time, Mr. Potter. Coincidence is beneath them, and they are above it.

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--> '''[[spoiler:Tracey]]''': '''[[spoiler:Tracey]]:''' "That's Darke Lady spelled D-A-R-K-E, with an E!"
--> '''[[spoiler:Snape]]''': '''[[spoiler:Snape]]:''' Seers are the pawns of time, Mr. Potter. Coincidence is beneath them, and they are above it.



* DitzyGenius: Harry.

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%% * DitzyGenius: Harry.



* [[DodgeTheBullet Dodge The Spell]]: Most Wizard fighting is a drawn-out attempt to defeat the opponent's defenses while maintaining your own, but the Killing Curse is unblockable and very powerful wizards can tear apart shields in an eye blink. As a result the ''best'' fighters don't bother with shields at all and dodge everything thrown at them. [[spoiler: Flitwick has secretly developed a special variant of the stunning hex that can reorient after being dodged, and it proves decisive when Harry uses it in fights he has no business winning.]]

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* [[DodgeTheBullet Dodge The Spell]]: DodgeTheBullet: Most Wizard fighting is a drawn-out attempt to defeat the opponent's defenses while maintaining your own, but the Killing Curse is unblockable and very powerful wizards can tear apart shields in an eye blink. As a result the ''best'' fighters don't bother with shields at all and dodge everything thrown at them. [[spoiler: Flitwick has secretly developed a special variant of the stunning hex that can reorient after being dodged, and it proves decisive when Harry uses it in fights he has no business winning.]]



** Also, [=McGonagall=] briefly fears that the Sorting Hat will create a new House of Doom just for Harry.

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** Also, [=McGonagall=] briefly fears that the Sorting Hat will create a new House of Doom just for Harry.



* DoubleReverseQuadrupleAgent: Blaise Zabini.

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%% * DoubleReverseQuadrupleAgent: Blaise Zabini.



* DramaticReading: [[http://www.hpmorpodcast.com/ There is now a nice podiobook available.]]

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* DramaticReading: [[http://www.hpmorpodcast.com/ There is now a nice podiobook available.]]



* [[ElementalRockPaperScissors The Five Elements]]: In chapter 46, when Professor Quirrell asks Harry how to hide something permanently, Harry responds using the Western five elements of Earth, Fire, Water, Air, and Aether (outer space).

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* [[ElementalRockPaperScissors The Five Elements]]: ElementalRockPaperScissors: In chapter 46, when Professor Quirrell asks Harry how to hide something permanently, Harry responds using the Western five elements of Earth, Fire, Water, Air, and Aether (outer space).



* EpilepticTrees: Quirinus Quirrell in-universe and out-universe.

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%% * EpilepticTrees: Quirinus Quirrell in-universe and out-universe.



* EvilCannotComprehendGood

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* EvilCannotComprehendGoodEvilCannotComprehendGood:



* EvilMentor: Professor Quirrell.

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%% * EvilMentor: Professor Quirrell.



* ExactWords

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* ExactWordsExactWords:



* FamilyUnfriendlyDeath: [[spoiler: Hermione Granger, of all people.]]

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%% * FamilyUnfriendlyDeath: [[spoiler: Hermione [[spoiler:Hermione Granger, of all people.]]



** The Hero: Harry
** The Lancer: Draco
** The Smart Guy: Hermione
** The Big Guy: Neville
** The Chick: Quirrell/Dumbledore

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** The Hero: Harry
Harry.
** The Lancer: Draco
Draco.
** The Smart Guy: Hermione
Hermione.
** The Big Guy: Neville
Neville.
** The Chick: Quirrell/DumbledoreQuirrell/Dumbledore.



* FlatWhat

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* FlatWhatFlatWhat:



* ForHappiness

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* ForHappinessForHappiness:



* GossipyHens: The girls of Slytherin. Especially Millicent Bulstrode.
** Hell, almost all the schoolgirls.

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* GossipyHens: The girls of Slytherin. Especially Millicent Bulstrode.
**
Bulstrode. Hell, almost all the schoolgirls.



* {{Headdesk}}: [=McGonagall=], in chapter 61.

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%% * {{Headdesk}}: [=McGonagall=], in chapter 61.



* HeroicResolve
** Harry, in [[spoiler:Azkaban]] when he realizes that giving up would doom [[spoiler:Quirrell]].

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* HeroicResolve
HeroicResolve:
** Harry, in [[spoiler:Azkaban]] [[spoiler:Azkaban]], when he realizes that giving up would doom [[spoiler:Quirrell]].



* HorrifyingTheHorror: [[spoiler: ''Dementors'']] are scared of Harry.

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* HorrifyingTheHorror: [[spoiler: ''Dementors'']] [[spoiler:''Dementors'']] are scared of Harry.



* [[HumansAreCthulhu Muggles Are Cthulhu]]: Draco's reaction to the moon landing.

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%% * [[HumansAreCthulhu Muggles Are Cthulhu]]: HumansAreCthulhu: Draco's reaction to the moon landing.



* IAlwaysWantedToSayThat

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* IAlwaysWantedToSayThatIAlwaysWantedToSayThat:



** Also, "''[[Literature/EndersGame Why are you upside down?]]''"
* ICanStillFight

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** Also, "''[[Literature/EndersGame Why are you upside down?]]''"
* ICanStillFightICanStillFight:



* IdiotBall

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* IdiotBallIdiotBall:
7th Jan '17 4:22:06 PM Gosicrystal
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* BlackmailIsSuchAnUglyWord: "World domination is such an ugly phrase. I prefer to call it world optimization."



* NoExceptYes: "World domination is such an ugly phrase. I prefer to call it world optimization."
14th Dec '16 12:22:10 AM SpuriousTod
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** Draco is getting better at using rationality during battles. During the Taboo Tradeoffs battle, his response to Harry's stratagem enabled Dragon Army to win. To be fair, he had the help of one of Harry's former generals.

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** Draco is getting better at using rationality during battles. During the Taboo Tradeoffs battle, his response to Harry's stratagem enabled Dragon Army to win. To be fair, he had the help of one of Harry's former generals.lieutenants.
22nd Nov '16 8:24:36 AM ScroogeMacDuck
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Complete as of Pi Day, 2015. Except for the Epilogue, which Yudkowsky stated he might post after Pi Day 2016, after he gives fans time to write fan fiction (which they did, by the way; among the more notable [[RecursiveFanfiction Recursive Fanfics]] would be ''[[http://www.anarchyishyperbole.com/p/significant-digits.html Significant Digits]]'', a sequel that got the approval of Eliezer Yudkowsky, which skips 7 years ahead in time and deals with adult Harry, Hermione and Draco and their newlyfound political power; ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10636246/1/Following-the-Phoenix Following the Phoenix]]'', an alternate ending AU diverging at Chapter 81; ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11223914/1/Draco-Malfoy-and-the-Practice-of-Rationality Draco Malfoy and the Practice of Rationality]]'', another sequel set in 2nd year centering on the rational Draco Malfoy; and many more).

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Complete as of Pi Day, 2015. Except for the Epilogue, which Yudkowsky stated he might post after Pi Day 2016, after he gives fans time to write fan fiction (which they did, by the way; among see the more notable [[RecursiveFanfiction Recursive Fanfics]] would be ''[[http://www.anarchyishyperbole.com/p/significant-digits.html Significant Digits]]'', a sequel that got the approval of Eliezer Yudkowsky, which skips 7 years ahead in time and deals with adult Harry, Hermione and Draco and their newlyfound political power; ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10636246/1/Following-the-Phoenix Following the Phoenix]]'', an alternate ending AU diverging at Chapter 81; ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11223914/1/Draco-Malfoy-and-the-Practice-of-Rationality Draco Malfoy and the Practice of Rationality]]'', another sequel set in 2nd year centering on the rational Draco Malfoy; and many more).
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