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** Someone at Starfleet decided to classify Gorn ships with dinosaur names. When the Gorn find out, the Gorn ambassador thinks that this is an honor, and their battleship program is rumored to be called ''Franchise/{{Godzilla}}''! Four of their ships that come to the Earth Alliance's side of the galaxy are named after dragons or monsters: ''Mothra,'' ''Rodan,'' ''Fafner,'' and ''Smaug.''

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** Someone at Starfleet decided to classify Gorn ships with dinosaur names. When the Gorn find out, the Gorn ambassador thinks that this is an honor, and their battleship program is rumored to be called ''Franchise/{{Godzilla}}''! Four of their ships that come to the Earth Alliance's side of the galaxy are named after dragons or monsters: ''Mothra,'' ''Rodan,'' ''Fafner,'' and ''Smaug.'''' [[spoiler: Except, of course, for the ''GCF Fires Of Regulus.'']]



** They also pushed the Dominion into going to war with the Federation.

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** They also pushed the Dominion into going to war with the Federation.Federation, and encouraged another race to try and take over the Federaton.



* PoorCommunicationKills: Aside from the backstory, where thanks to this, the Earth/Minbari war started, a lot of problems could have been avoided if the Minbari had sat down with the Federation and the Klingons and simply talked to them. As it stands, they offended the Klingons and assume that the Federation is a strange, mongrel power under the control of the Shadows and the Vulcans, seeking to bring all races under their control.



* TyrannosaurusRex: The Federation has labeled a Gorn dreadnought design as the ''Tyrannosaurus Rex''-class ship.

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* TheOnlyOneAllowedToKillYou: Once again, Kirk is in fine form in this story. Not in the sense that he wants to be the one to defeat the Minbari, but in the sense that yet ''another'' group of aliens wants him dead, and demands that ''they'' be the ones to tear of his head. Bonus points for the Klingons still being upset about the peace treaty because it means they won't get to fight "The Great Enemy."
* TyrannosaurusRex: The Federation has labeled a Gorn dreadnought design as the ''Tyrannosaurus Rex''-class ship. The Gorn love it.

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* CurbStompBattle: Well, just about every single time the allies go against the Minbari, and even sometimes the Vorlons. The B5 powers are just that outmatched in terms of speed, firepower, durability (at least while the shields are up), and actual combat experience. It's hard not to feel sorry for the Minbari.

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* CurbStompBattle: Well, just about every single time the allies go against the Minbari, and even sometimes the Vorlons. The B5 powers are just that outmatched in terms of speed, firepower, durability (at least while the shields are up), and actual combat experience. It's hard not to feel sorry for the Minbari. Minbari.
** As time goes on, Minbari start to get upgrades from the Vorlons, which make battles much harder for the Federation, and the Minbari do learn from mistakes. So do their much stronger cousin, the Aschen... to the point where the longer the story goes, the fewer and farther between the curbstomps come.


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** Interestingly, the whole thing started as a joke- some "Wise Guy," at Starfleet Headquarters started labeling Gorn ship classes after Dinosaurs. When the Gorn found out, and found out the reverence that humans placed on "The large collections of bones in those old museums," they found it hilarious, but also took great pride in it. Now, they're almost certainly naming their ship classes to screw with Starfleet Intelligence.


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** They also pushed the Dominion into going to war with the Federation.
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** An admiral is commenting to Kirk how "The Cardassians are a war waiting to happen," while Kirk brushes him off. The Cardassians were minor antagonists through later seasons of ''StarTrekTheNextGeneration'', and major ones (active participants in the Dominion War) in ''StarTrekDeepSpaceNine''.
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It describes a war between the [[Series/{{Babylon 5}} Minbari Federation]] and the [[Franchise/StarTrek United Federation of Planets]]. In the beginning, a ship from the Earth of Babylon 5 and a Minbari ship chasing it go through a space anomaly. Captain Kirk's ''Enterprise'' finds them. The consequences extend into the next century, and the Vorlons get involved as well -- also as enemies of the Federation.

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It describes a war between the [[Series/{{Babylon 5}} [[Series/BabylonFive Minbari Federation]] and the [[Franchise/StarTrek United Federation of Planets]]. In the beginning, a ship from the Earth of Babylon 5 and a Minbari ship chasing it go through a space anomaly. Captain Kirk's ''Enterprise'' finds them. The consequences extend into the next century, and the Vorlons get involved as well -- also as enemies of the Federation.
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* BreadMilkEggsSquick: The Gorn's warships. While the first four ships listed are almost certainly an attempt to tease the Federation, being named ''Smaug'', ''Fafnir'', ''Mothra'', and ''Rodan'', the last is registered as [[spoiler: the GCF ''Fires Of Regulus''.]]

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* BreadMilkEggsSquick: The Gorn's warships. While the first four ships listed are almost certainly an attempt to tease the Federation, being named ''Smaug'', ''Fafnir'', ''Mothra'', and ''Rodan'', the last is registered as [[spoiler: the GCF [[RememberTheAlamo ''Fires Of Regulus''.Regulus'']].]]
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Misuse. From Bad To Worse - formerly It Got Worse - is the event that pushes things off the edge.


* ItGotWorse: The prologue reveals that [[spoiler: the Vorlons are responsible for the Dominion War, an event that nearly wiped out the combined forces of the Federation, Klingons, and the Romulans. In addition, it's highly suspected that they provided aid to the Ciona Imperix, which nearly destroyed the Klingon High Council and the Federation secretly. So now, the Federation is aware that the god-like aliens are ''still'' pissed at them for the events of the fic (ninety years ago), but they can't risk fighting back due to the Vorlon's sheer power and the fact that the Borg are still trying to destroy the Federation as well, not to mention that the Alpha Quadrant races are still licking their wounds from the Dominion. Things do not look good for the Federation's future.]]
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** Someone at Starfleet decided to classify Gorn ships with dinosaur names. When the Gorn find out, the Gorn ambassador thinks that this is an honor, and their battleship program is rumored to be called ''{{Godzilla}}''! Four of their ships that come to the Earth Alliance's side of the galaxy are named after dragons or monsters: ''Mothra,'' ''Rodan,'' ''Fafner,'' and ''Smaug.''

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** Someone at Starfleet decided to classify Gorn ships with dinosaur names. When the Gorn find out, the Gorn ambassador thinks that this is an honor, and their battleship program is rumored to be called ''{{Godzilla}}''! ''Franchise/{{Godzilla}}''! Four of their ships that come to the Earth Alliance's side of the galaxy are named after dragons or monsters: ''Mothra,'' ''Rodan,'' ''Fafner,'' and ''Smaug.''



* ShoutOut: The Gorn battleship program is rumored to be called ''{{Godzilla}}.'' The names of two of the ships in the mini-fleet they bring include ''Mothra'' and ''Rodan,'' more Godzilla monsters.

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* ShoutOut: The Gorn battleship program is rumored to be called ''{{Godzilla}}.''Franchise/{{Godzilla}}.'' The names of two of the ships in the mini-fleet they bring include ''Mothra'' and ''Rodan,'' more Godzilla monsters.

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* TheManBehindTheMan: The Vorlons are this to the Minbari and the Aschen.



** Of particular note are tricobolt explosives. While they've been largely phased out in the Federation due to the prevalence of more effective antimatter explosives, the tricobolt devices have the unique benefit of ''royally'' screwing up Minbari gravity drives.

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** Of particular note are tricobolt explosives. While they've been largely phased out in the Federation due to the prevalence of more effective antimatter explosives, explosives and their ineffectiveness against shields, the tricobolt devices have the unique benefit of ''royally'' screwing up Minbari gravity drives.drives (the fact that they have no shields also helps a lot).


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** At one point, Aclatha mentions that the Klingons are as bad about leaping before they look as the [[KnownSpace Kzinti]].
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* EnemyCivilWar: [[spoiler: between the Aschen and the Minbari, as of chapter 79.]]
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* ItGotWorse: The prologue reveals that [[spoiler: the Vorlons are responsible for the Dominion War, an event that nearly wiped out the combined forces of the Federation, Klingons, and the Romulans. In addition, it's highly suspected that they provided aid to the Ciona Imperex, which nearly destroyed the Klingon High Council and the Federation secretly. So now, the Federation is aware that the god-like aliens are ''still'' pissed at them for the events of the fic (ninety years ago), but they can't risk fighting back due to the Vorlon's sheer power and the fact that the Borg are still trying to destroy the Federation as well, not to mention that the Alpha Quadrant races are still licking their wounds from the Dominion. Things do not look good for the Federation's future.]]

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* ItGotWorse: The prologue reveals that [[spoiler: the Vorlons are responsible for the Dominion War, an event that nearly wiped out the combined forces of the Federation, Klingons, and the Romulans. In addition, it's highly suspected that they provided aid to the Ciona Imperex, Imperix, which nearly destroyed the Klingon High Council and the Federation secretly. So now, the Federation is aware that the god-like aliens are ''still'' pissed at them for the events of the fic (ninety years ago), but they can't risk fighting back due to the Vorlon's sheer power and the fact that the Borg are still trying to destroy the Federation as well, not to mention that the Alpha Quadrant races are still licking their wounds from the Dominion. Things do not look good for the Federation's future.]]
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* ForegoneConclusion: The events of this story are interspersed with occasional looks into the future of the ATV-verse, including [[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine Sisko]] and [[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration Picard.]] The war ends with the remnants of the Minbari Republic signing an agreement with the Federation/Klingon alliance, followed by close to a century of cold war with the Vorlons, who eventually lead the Dominion to war with the Federation and help along the Ciona Imperex in their attempt to dominate the Alpha Quadrant races in the name of order. Meanwhile, the Narn Regime and the Centauri Republics join the United Federation of Planets.

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* ForegoneConclusion: The events of this story are interspersed with occasional looks into the future of the ATV-verse, including [[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine Sisko]] and [[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration Picard.]] The war ends with the remnants of the Minbari Republic signing an agreement with the Federation/Klingon alliance, followed by close to a century of cold war with the Vorlons, who eventually lead the Dominion to war with the Federation and help along the Ciona Imperex Imperix in their attempt to dominate the Alpha Quadrant races in the name of order. Meanwhile, the Narn Regime and the Centauri Republics join the United Federation of Planets.
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** Also, the Vree's "Dimensional Slip" technology came from reverse-engineered tech from an abandoned Iaconian outpost.

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* ArsonMurderAndJaywalking: Inverted with the Gorn. While the first four ships listed are almost certainly an attempt to tease the Federation, being named ''Smaug'', ''Fafnir'', ''Mothra'', and ''Rodan'', the last is registered as [[spoiler: the GCF ''Fires Of Regulus''.]]

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* ArsonMurderAndJaywalking: Inverted with the Gorn.BreadMilkEggsSquick: The Gorn's warships. While the first four ships listed are almost certainly an attempt to tease the Federation, being named ''Smaug'', ''Fafnir'', ''Mothra'', and ''Rodan'', the last is registered as [[spoiler: the GCF ''Fires Of Regulus''.]]
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* ArsonMurderAndJaywalking: Inverted with the Gorn. While the first four ships listed are almost certainly an attempt to tease the Federation, being named ''Smaug'', ''Fafnir'', ''Mothra'', and ''Rodan'', the last is registered as [[spoiler: the GCF ''Fires Of Regulus''.]]
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* MythologyGag: Sheridan, when he first appears, is surprised that he doesn't feel disgust at the idea of half-human hybrids in the Federation, or at humans mating with aliens. In the canon ''Babylon5'' story, he eventually married and had children with Delenn, a Minbari.

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* MythologyGag: Sheridan, when he first appears, is surprised that he doesn't feel disgust at the idea of half-human hybrids in the Federation, or at humans mating with aliens. In the canon ''Babylon5'' ''Babylon 5'' story, he eventually married and had children with Delenn, a Minbari.
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It describes a war between the [[Series/{{Babylon 5}} Minbari Federation]] and the [[StarTrek United Federation of Planets]]. In the beginning, a ship from the Earth of Babylon 5 and a Minbari ship chasing it go through a space anomaly. Captain Kirk's ''Enterprise'' finds them. The consequences extend into the next century, and the Vorlons get involved as well -- also as enemies of the Federation.

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It describes a war between the [[Series/{{Babylon 5}} Minbari Federation]] and the [[StarTrek [[Franchise/StarTrek United Federation of Planets]]. In the beginning, a ship from the Earth of Babylon 5 and a Minbari ship chasing it go through a space anomaly. Captain Kirk's ''Enterprise'' finds them. The consequences extend into the next century, and the Vorlons get involved as well -- also as enemies of the Federation.



* AlternateUniverse: An alternate universe [[StarTrekVoyager Admiral Janeway]] [[NinjaPirateZombieRobot from the future]], ''Voyager,'' and a Minbari warship travel to the ATV universe to deliver a warning about the Vorlons and provide weapons and technology from over one hundred years in the future. This scares Kirk, as Starfleet has strict rules against this sort of thing, and if Janeway is willing to break them, things must be ''very'' serious.

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* AlternateUniverse: An alternate universe [[StarTrekVoyager [[Series/StarTrekVoyager Admiral Janeway]] [[NinjaPirateZombieRobot from the future]], ''Voyager,'' and a Minbari warship travel to the ATV universe to deliver a warning about the Vorlons and provide weapons and technology from over one hundred years in the future. This scares Kirk, as Starfleet has strict rules against this sort of thing, and if Janeway is willing to break them, things must be ''very'' serious.



* ForegoneConclusion: The events of this story are interspersed with occasional looks into the future of the ATV-verse, including [[StarTrekDeepSpaceNine Sisko]] and [[StarTrekTheNextGeneration Piccard.]] The war ends with the remnants of the Minbari Republic signing an agreement with the Federation/Klingon alliance, followed by close to a century of cold war with the Vorlons, who eventually lead the Dominion to war with the Federation and help along the Ciona Imperex in their attempt to dominate the Alpha Quadrant races in the name of order. Meanwhile, the Narn Regime and the Centauri Republics join the United Federation of Planets.

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* ForegoneConclusion: The events of this story are interspersed with occasional looks into the future of the ATV-verse, including [[StarTrekDeepSpaceNine [[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine Sisko]] and [[StarTrekTheNextGeneration Piccard.[[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration Picard.]] The war ends with the remnants of the Minbari Republic signing an agreement with the Federation/Klingon alliance, followed by close to a century of cold war with the Vorlons, who eventually lead the Dominion to war with the Federation and help along the Ciona Imperex in their attempt to dominate the Alpha Quadrant races in the name of order. Meanwhile, the Narn Regime and the Centauri Republics join the United Federation of Planets.



* IDoNotOwn -- and neither does anyone else. Explicit permission is given for anyone to copy this story as long as they leave the credits. The credits mention many works, including all vs. of canonical StarTrek extant at the time.

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* IDoNotOwn -- and neither does anyone else. Explicit permission is given for anyone to copy this story as long as they leave the credits. The credits mention many works, including all vs. of canonical StarTrek Franchise/StarTrek extant at the time.
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It describes a war between the [[BabylonFive Minbari Federation]] and the [[StarTrek United Federation of Planets]]. In the beginning, a ship from the Earth of Babylon 5 and a Minbari ship chasing it go through a space anomaly. Captain Kirk's ''Enterprise'' finds them. The consequences extend into the next century, and the Vorlons get involved as well -- also as enemies of the Federation.

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It describes a war between the [[BabylonFive [[Series/{{Babylon 5}} Minbari Federation]] and the [[StarTrek United Federation of Planets]]. In the beginning, a ship from the Earth of Babylon 5 and a Minbari ship chasing it go through a space anomaly. Captain Kirk's ''Enterprise'' finds them. The consequences extend into the next century, and the Vorlons get involved as well -- also as enemies of the Federation.
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* AlternateUniverse: An alternate universe [[StarTrekVoyager Admiral Janeway from the future]], ''Voyager,'' and a Minbari warship travel to the ATV universe to deliver a warning about the Vorlons and provide weapons and technology from over one hundred years in the future. This scares Kirk, as Starfleet has strict rules against this sort of thing, and if Janeway is willing to break them, things must be ''very'' serious.

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* AlternateUniverse: An alternate universe [[StarTrekVoyager Admiral Janeway Janeway]] [[NinjaPirateZombieRobot from the future]], ''Voyager,'' and a Minbari warship travel to the ATV universe to deliver a warning about the Vorlons and provide weapons and technology from over one hundred years in the future. This scares Kirk, as Starfleet has strict rules against this sort of thing, and if Janeway is willing to break them, things must be ''very'' serious.



** When Kirk is going over some of the officers participating in the war, he mentions that he used to work on a ship with [[{{Airplane}} Ted Stryker and Buck Murdock]], and even mentions Stryker's [[VisualPun Drinking Problem.]]

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** When Kirk is going over some of the officers participating in the war, he mentions that he used to work on a ship with [[{{Airplane}} Ted Stryker and Buck Murdock]], and even mentions Stryker's [[VisualPun Drinking Drinking]] [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Problem.]]
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** Also, the Vree's "Dimensional Slip" technology came from reverse-engineered tech from an abandoned Iaconian outpost.
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* [[EvenEvilHasStandards Even]] [[SufficientlyAdvancedAliens First Ones]] [[EvenEvilHasStandards Have Standards]]: None of the other "elder races," or "first ones," such as the Metrons, Medusans, Organians, or even Q like the Vorlons. The Shadows don't like them either, but they have a history to back it up.


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* ForegoneConclusion: The events of this story are interspersed with occasional looks into the future of the ATV-verse, including [[StarTrekDeepSpaceNine Sisko]] and [[StarTrekTheNextGeneration Piccard.]] The war ends with the remnants of the Minbari Republic signing an agreement with the Federation/Klingon alliance, followed by close to a century of cold war with the Vorlons, who eventually lead the Dominion to war with the Federation and help along the Ciona Imperex in their attempt to dominate the Alpha Quadrant races in the name of order. Meanwhile, the Narn Regime and the Centauri Republics join the United Federation of Planets.
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** When Kirk is going over some of the officers participating in the war, he mentions that he used to work on a ship with [[{{Airplane}} Ted Stryker and Buck Murdock]], and even mentions Stryker's [[VisualPun Drinking Problem.]]
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* ItGotWorse: The prologue reveals that [[spoiler: the Vorlons are responsible for the Dominion War, an event that nearly wiped out the combined forces of the Federation, Klingons, and the Romulans. In addition, it's highly suspected that they provided aid to the Ciona Imperex, which nearly destroyed the Klingon High Council and the Federation secretly. So now, the Federation is aware that the god-like aliens are ''still'' pissed at them for the events of the fic (ninety years ago), but they can't risk fighting back due to the Vorlon's sheer power and the fact that the Borg are still trying to destroy the Federation as well, not to mention that the Alpha Quadrant races are still licking their wounds from the Dominion. Things do not look good for the Federation's future.]]
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* AlternateUniverse: An alternate universe [[StarTrekVoyager Admiral Janeway from the future]], ''Voyager,'' and a Minbari warship travel to the ATV universe to deliver a warning about the Vorlons and provide weapons and technology from over one hundred years in the future. This scares Kirk, as Starfleet has strict rules against this sort of thing, and if Janeway is willing to break them, things must be ''very'' serious.


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** Later, the Minbari are shown up at this by the Aschen.

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* ContinuityNod: Sheridan, when he first appears, is surprised that he doesn't feel disgust at the idea of half-human hybrids in the Federation, or at humans mating with aliens. In the canon ''Babylon5'' story, he eventually married and had children with Delenn, a Minbari.


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* MythologyGag: Sheridan, when he first appears, is surprised that he doesn't feel disgust at the idea of half-human hybrids in the Federation, or at humans mating with aliens. In the canon ''Babylon5'' story, he eventually married and had children with Delenn, a Minbari.
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* ContinuityNod: Sheridan, when he first appears, is surprised that he doesn't feel disgust at the idea of half-human hybrids in the Federation, or at humans mating with aliens. In the canon ''Babylon5'' story, he eventually married and had children with Delenn, a Minbari.
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** The Shadows also have a bit of this, as part of their backstory. However, as their style is more "Infiltrate and learn," rather than "appear as gods," they more quickly learn about the Federation and its benefits, and leave not that long after they're introduced.

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** Someone at Starfleet decided to classify Gorn ships with dinosaur names. When the Gorn find out, the Gorn ambassador thinks that this is an honor, and their battleship program is rumored to be called ''{{Godzilla}}''! Later in the story, we see a Gorn piloting a fighter, which is of the Mothra-class of fighters.

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** Someone at Starfleet decided to classify Gorn ships with dinosaur names. When the Gorn find out, the Gorn ambassador thinks that this is an honor, and their battleship program is rumored to be called ''{{Godzilla}}''! Later in Four of their ships that come to the story, we see a Gorn piloting a fighter, which is Earth Alliance's side of the Mothra-class of fighters.galaxy are named after dragons or monsters: ''Mothra,'' ''Rodan,'' ''Fafner,'' and ''Smaug.''



* ShoutOut: The Gorn battleship program is rumored to be called ''{{Godzilla}}.'' Later, we see a Gorn flying a Mothra-class fighter.

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* ShoutOut: The Gorn battleship program is rumored to be called ''{{Godzilla}}.'' Later, we see a Gorn flying a Mothra-class fighter.The names of two of the ships in the mini-fleet they bring include ''Mothra'' and ''Rodan,'' more Godzilla monsters.
** Another ship is the ''[[LordOfTheRings Smaug,]]'' named after the dragon from ''The Hobbit.''
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* EverythingsBetterWithDinosaurs: The Federation classifies Gorn ships by Dinosaur name. The flagship of the Gorn group that arrives at ''Beccara Alpha One'' is a TyrannosaurusRex class dreadnought.


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* HumanityIsInfectious: The fic continues the ''Babylon 5'' tradition of making humans community builders, and the prologue reveals that the Narn and the Centauri have joined the Federation in the future.
** Someone at Starfleet decided to classify Gorn ships with dinosaur names. When the Gorn find out, the Gorn ambassador thinks that this is an honor, and their battleship program is rumored to be called ''{{Godzilla}}''! Later in the story, we see a Gorn piloting a fighter, which is of the Mothra-class of fighters.


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* ShoutOut: The Gorn battleship program is rumored to be called ''{{Godzilla}}.'' Later, we see a Gorn flying a Mothra-class fighter.
* TyrannosaurusRex: The Federation has labeled a Gorn dreadnought design as the ''Tyrannosaurus Rex''-class ship.

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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Several.


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* NormalFishInATinyPond: Many Federation technologies are considered normal, even weak for the setting, but are very effective against the Minbari simply because ''they have had no exposure to these technologies.''
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Needed some wuv.

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*AbusivePrecursors: Vorlons march up one side of this trope and down the other. If it wasn't for helpful precursors on the Federation's side, this would be a much darker, and much more terrifying fanfic.


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*CurbStompBattle: Well, just about every single time the allies go against the Minbari, and even sometimes the Vorlons. The B5 powers are just that outmatched in terms of speed, firepower, durability (at least while the shields are up), and actual combat experience. It's hard not to feel sorry for the Minbari.

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