History FanFic / AThinVeneer

30th Jan '17 5:47:05 PM dracogeorge
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* WinsByDoingAbsolutelyNothing: The Shadows [[spoiler:win their ideological conflict with the Vorlons simply by having the Federation and the Klingons show up, proving(in their eyes) that conflict leads to strength.]]
9th Dec '16 9:09:51 AM Doug86
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** At one point, Acaltha mentions that the Klingons are as bad about leaping before they look as the [[KnownSpace Kzinti]] (although this is only a semi-example, since the Kzinti are more-or-less canon as existing in the Star Trek universe already).

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** At one point, Acaltha mentions that the Klingons are as bad about leaping before they look as the [[KnownSpace [[Literature/KnownSpace Kzinti]] (although this is only a semi-example, since the Kzinti are more-or-less canon as existing in the Star Trek universe already).
23rd Aug '16 6:26:04 PM nombretomado
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** When Kirk is going over some of the officers participating in the war, he mentions that he used to work on a ship with [[{{Airplane}} Ted Stryker and Buck Murdock]], and even mentions Stryker's [[VisualPun Drinking]] [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Problem.]]

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** When Kirk is going over some of the officers participating in the war, he mentions that he used to work on a ship with [[{{Airplane}} [[Film/{{Airplane}} Ted Stryker and Buck Murdock]], and even mentions Stryker's [[VisualPun Drinking]] [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Problem.]]
22nd Jul '15 1:16:00 AM SithkingZero
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** The Aschen and the Minbari accuse the Shadows of being this for the Federation, even after the Shadows go on ISN and say that no, they have nothing to do with the Federation, and that they've signed a treaty of non-aggression with them.
22nd Jul '15 1:14:21 AM SithkingZero
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* {{Deconstruction}}: The concept of Minbari "Honor" is quite thoroughly deconstructed, with multiple characters pointing out that there is no "Honor" in slaughtering foes who can't fight back, and many times the Minbari react to any losses with rationalizations and denial. In short, their version of honor tends to come across as a mean-spirited, spoiled bully who complains and whines to Daddy (the Vorlons) when their victims start actually fighting back.



* {{Foreshadowing}}: Alternate Universe Admiral Janeway from the Future warns of four separate threats: The Vorlons, "A race of cyborgs," "Aliens from another universe," and "A hostile government in the Gamma Quadrant." While Kirk and the others of the time ponder over who these enemies could possibly be, hindsight tells the audience that she's referring to (respectively) The Borg, either Species 8472 (AKA The Undine) or the Thirdspace Aliens, and the Dominion.
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* {{Foreshadowing}}: Alternate Universe Admiral Janeway [[Series/StarTrekVoyager Janeway]] from the Future warns of four separate threats: The Vorlons, "A race of cyborgs," "Aliens from another universe," and "A hostile government in the Gamma Quadrant." While Kirk and the others of the time ponder over who these enemies could possibly be, hindsight tells the audience that she's referring to (respectively) The Borg, either Species 8472 (AKA The Undine) or the Thirdspace Aliens, and the Dominion.
* FusionFicFusionFic: Between Babylon 5 and Star Trek.


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* {{Irony}}: The Federation notes that the Minbari accidentally killing the Clan Leader of one of the Gorn Homeworlds has more than a few similarities to how their war with humanity began- a tragic misunderstanding accidentally killing a highly culturally significant figure, and the nation-state of the cultural figure swearing revenge.


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** Inverted with the Gorn, who grew fascinated with the Federation because the Federation was willing to apologize for its mistakes during First Contact, something that no other alien race had done to them up to that point.
29th Jan '15 5:58:39 AM MiriOhki
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* A conversation between Delenn and [[spoiler: Jha'dur]] borrows much from a conversation between the latter and Commander Sinclair in the episode named after the latter's [[TheRedBaron sobriquet]]. The difference, however, is [[spoiler: The episode of the series used the words to imply that Earth will become the monsters the Dilgar were upon gaining her [[ImmortalityImmorality life serum]], while A Thin Veneer uses the conversation to parallel the Minbari to the Dilgar for use of biological weaponry.]]

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* ** A conversation between Delenn and [[spoiler: Jha'dur]] borrows much from a conversation between the latter and Commander Sinclair in the episode named after the latter's [[TheRedBaron sobriquet]]. The difference, however, is [[spoiler: The episode of the series used the words to imply that Earth will become the monsters the Dilgar were upon gaining her [[ImmortalityImmorality life serum]], while A Thin Veneer uses the conversation to parallel the Minbari to the Dilgar for use of biological weaponry.]]
29th Jan '15 5:58:17 AM MiriOhki
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* A conversation between Delenn and [[spoiler: Jha'dur]] borrows much from a conversation between the latter and Commander Sinclair in the episode named after the latter's [[TheRedBaron sobriquet]]. The difference, however, is [[spoiler: The episode of the series used the words to imply that Earth will become the monsters the Dilgar were upon gaining her [[ImmortalityImmorality life serum]], while A Thin Veneer uses the conversation to parallel the Minbari to the Dilgar for use of biological weaponry.]]
29th Jan '15 5:49:23 AM MiriOhki
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** Delenn's conversation with [[spoiler: Jha'dur, AKA Deathwalker]] is very similar in tone to the [[SilenceOfTheLambs conversation between Agent Starling and Dr. Lecter]], even including a jab implying Delenn only got her position because of Dukhat fantasizing about her, much as Lecter implied about Crawford.
29th Jan '15 5:35:23 AM MiriOhki
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* LightIsNotGood: The Minbari, and very definitely the Vorlons and the Aschen. For all of their preaching about being the light against the Darkness, their attempted genocide of humanity, and their frequent talks later in the series about using biological weaponry put paid to any trace of their benevolence.
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