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21st Apr '18 6:20:42 PM nombretomado
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* Vergil in ''Franchise/DevilMayCry 3'', although he is not as {{egregious}} as some other examples. His lust for power might be enough to make him villainous and the nature to excuse that because he's such an aloof badass is certainly there but his character has more nuances that skew towards AntiVillain (namely that his driving motivation is the DarkAndTroubledPast of demonic forces killing his mother, much the same as his brother, who simply chose a more heroic outlet in pursuit of the same goal of making demonkind pay for it).

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* Vergil in ''Franchise/DevilMayCry 3'', although he is not as {{egregious}} JustForFun/{{egregious}} as some other examples. His lust for power might be enough to make him villainous and the nature to excuse that because he's such an aloof badass is certainly there but his character has more nuances that skew towards AntiVillain (namely that his driving motivation is the DarkAndTroubledPast of demonic forces killing his mother, much the same as his brother, who simply chose a more heroic outlet in pursuit of the same goal of making demonkind pay for it).
14th Feb '18 11:40:12 AM LucaEarlgrey
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* [[{{Satan}} Lucifer]] in the ''Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei'' series. People forget that he's the premier FallenAngel, a {{Magnificent|Bastard}} and ManipulativeBastard, whose goals, when viewed logically, wouldn't look out of place in TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} - the ultimate destruction of all worldly law and order, the release of all the madness and chaos of the human heart. He's literally Chaos incarnate - and while he honestly wants Humanity to survive, it's because the human spirit is the key to ''everything'' in the SMT'verse. He's vicious and ruthless, calmly planning a Z-Class ApocalypseHow [[VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIIINocturne one day]], popping up for a test match [[VideoGame/DevilSurvivor the next]], tampering with established history [[VideoGame/RaidouKuzunohaVsKingAbaddon tomorrow]] and playing with some humans for fun [[VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiStrangeJourney some other day]].

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* ''Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei'':
** The Chaos alignment as a whole. Many fans see it as a more reasonable alternative to the iron-fist theocracy often touted by Law-aligned factions, as part of Chaos's ideals is a world of freedom. However, fans tend to forget that it means ''absolute'' freedom, up to and including [[AsskickingEqualsAuthority the strong abusing and crushing the weak to defend their right to do whatever they want]].
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[[{{Satan}} Lucifer]] in the ''Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei'' series.Lucifer]]. People forget that he's the premier FallenAngel, a {{Magnificent|Bastard}} and ManipulativeBastard, whose goals, when viewed logically, wouldn't look out of place in TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} - the ultimate destruction of all worldly law and order, the release of all the madness and chaos of the human heart. He's literally Chaos incarnate - and while he honestly wants Humanity to survive, it's because the human spirit is the key to ''everything'' in the SMT'verse. He's vicious and ruthless, calmly planning a Z-Class ApocalypseHow [[VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIIINocturne one day]], popping up for a test match [[VideoGame/DevilSurvivor the next]], tampering with established history [[VideoGame/RaidouKuzunohaVsKingAbaddon tomorrow]] and playing with some humans for fun [[VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiStrangeJourney some other day]].
4th Feb '18 12:53:17 PM nombretomado
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* Reala from ''VideoGame/NightsIntoDreams'' gets a lot of this. In-game, he's a cruel, cold-hearted, ManipulativeBastard, but fans completely strip him of all sinister traits to ship him with NiGHTS. [[RedemptionEqualsSex Bonus points if NiGHTS redeems Reala.]]

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* Reala from ''VideoGame/NightsIntoDreams'' gets a lot of this. In-game, he's a cruel, cold-hearted, ManipulativeBastard, but fans completely strip him of all sinister traits to ship him with NiGHTS.[=NiGHTS=]. [[RedemptionEqualsSex Bonus points if NiGHTS redeems Reala.]]
30th Jan '18 6:20:50 AM MisterTambourineMan
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** [[EnemyMine It's not helped by the fact that]] [[BlueAndOrangeMorality YHVH's representation of ultimate Law is only marginally better in its fairest depiction]]. [[WorldOfSilence Unfortunately, the Great Will rarely does things by halves]], and a common sentiment amongst the fanbase is basically 'Lucifer's bad, but it's not like he's YHVH.'



** Sync even has some canon points, as Van continues to use him for his Daathic Fonic Artes, despite knowing that their goals are somewhat different. Van wants to recreate the world, albeit by destroying the old one, whilst Sync seemingly wants to destroy '''all''' worlds. This may just seem like a conflict of interests, but keep in mind that Sync shows next to no true loyalty to Van, only supporting him so that at least the old world will be destroyed. For a man whose goals will destroy the world out of necessity rather than an explicit desire, he's certainly doesn't seem to care that his left-hand man isn't at all compassionate.
18th Jan '18 3:37:47 PM shooterboss
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* ''VideoGame/TheEvilWithin'' has Ruvik. Even before the game made it to shelves, the disfigured madman who rules the DarkWorld, had a substantial legion of fans. After release, they only multiplied. [[WalkingShirtlessScene His attire]] [[NoShirtLongJacket doesn't help either.]] And this is all whilst fully acknowledging his physical disfigurement and love of dissecting things.
16th Dec '17 7:00:30 PM DustSnitch
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** Some people overlook that Ocelot is a [[TortureTechnician sadistic torturer]] and an [[MoralEventHorizon unrepentant mass murderer]] because he did it all to [[spoiler:end the Patriots and for Big Boss]]. Not helping is that Ocelot was [[IWasQuiteALooker very attractive when he was younger]] (making him ripe for all kinds of shipping), and [[BadassGrandpa old Ocelot]] is a ''very'' {{magnificent bastard}}.

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** Some people overlook that Ocelot is a [[TortureTechnician sadistic torturer]] and an [[MoralEventHorizon unrepentant mass murderer]] because he did it all to [[spoiler:end the Patriots and for Big Boss]]. Not helping is that Ocelot was [[IWasQuiteALooker very attractive when he was younger]] (making him ripe for all kinds of shipping), and [[BadassGrandpa old Ocelot]] Ocelot is a ''very'' {{magnificent bastard}}.
3rd Dec '17 11:55:05 AM OrangenChan
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* Berkut from ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemGaiden Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia]]'' gets a lot of this. It's true that he has a sad backstory, being raised by his very strict parents and uncle, and was LockedOutOfTheLoop in regards to [[spoiler:Alm being Rigel's ''true'' heir instead of him]]. However, quite a few of his fans use this to sweep his more [[{{Pride}} prideful]] {{jerkass}} moments under the rug, behaving as if it's all Rudolf's fault and Berkut is just a poor victim of circumstance. It doesn't help that Berkut is rather EasilyForgiven in-universe for things like [[spoiler:trying to kill Alm several times and willingly [[DealWithTheDevil sacrificing his fiancée Rinea to Duma]] for more power]].
16th Nov '17 10:11:25 AM DrSleep
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* From ''VideoGame/LeagueOfLegends'':
** Diana from is a powerful and not too overpowered champion, seeing a lot of uses in the game. She's an inquisitive lady of the Solari tribe that was branded heretic and nearly executed by the Solari elders for finding out the existence of the Lunari tribe that was massacred and removed from history by the Solari, and just wanted equality for both sides. After awakening her moon power by the trauma and then slaughtering the elders and executors in self-defense, in madness, she decided that she will enforce the will of the Moon by force, and make first the rest of the Solari, then the world, bow to the Moon or else she will cut their heads off without any tinge of mercy. As far as the fans are concerned, Diana is the essential JerkassWoobie who's NotEvilJustMisunderstood that deserves support for trying to let the truth be revealed to the world (instead of an aggressive invader that threatens the world), and the Solari elders are all {{Asshole Victim}}s that deserves [[KickTheSonOfABitch being slaughtered for their fascism and cowardice]], and occasionally, their champion and Diana's rival, Leona, is painted as a tool of fascism and bigotry and conveniently forgetting that the same elders saved Leona from certain execution from her home tribe, and Leona had nothing but pure intentions of 'protecting everyone'. However, Riot seemed to agree on this somehow, as in the newer lore, Diana is portrayed in a much more sympathetic light and she's less murderous as well, instead being disgusted at the massacre she committed. In turn, they made the Solari even more fascistic and Leona taking levels of KnightTemplar-ism by making her indoctrination clearer, though at the end of Leona's lore, she seemed to be looking for something of a reconciliation, but they really want to push on the angle of 'The Solari sect are all rigid, old fashioned hypocritical assholes'.
** As per AlternativeCharacterInterpretation, Viktor also enjoys a lot of 'misaimed' fan base, that his fans makes light of his possible atrocities and bashed Jayce even after his possible MartyStu credentials decreased a lot (see AuthorsSavingThrow), in spite of his goal forcing everyone to become augmented with Hextech machinery. Fans of Viktor and Diana often describe those two as "Glorious" and encourages other people to feel their glory.
** Many of the Void champions also receive this treatment, most notably Vel'Koz and Kog'Maw. Vel'Koz's cold, studious "examination" of anything he runs across is turned into childlike curiosity and wonder, while Kog'Maw is more likely to be portrayed as a bumbling puppy than the near-mindless, bottomless appetite which he is.
** Dr. Mundo is a psychotic monster who enjoys pain (whether his own or others') and is outright stated to be a serial killer and SelfMadeOrphan, but since he has a funny, endearing way of speaking people forget all about this and portray him as a [[BigFun big lovable oaf]]. Even Riot doesn't really take him seriously anymore, preferring his [[PointyHairedBoss Corporate Mundo]] style whenever he's mentioned.
** Draven is another Noxian example. Ask a player about Draven, and most will immediately respond, "Not Draven, Draaaaven." Few will mention that he rose to fame in Noxus as an ''executioner'', giving condemned prisoners a chance to flee (and a [[HopeSpot false sense of hope]]) before mercilessly cutting them down with various trick throws with his throwing axes.
** And then there's Katarina. Yes, she is an efficient killer and [[WolverinePublicity pseudo-mascot for the game]]. Yes, she is a proud and badass lady, not to mention sexy. What people tend to forget is that she's not too discriminating about whom she kills or why, doing it apparently [[BecauseImGoodAtIt just for sport]], and [[CardCarryingVillain revels in her ability to shed blood and get away clean.]] Even if she and Talon are ALighterShadeOfBlack compared to Swain, Vladimir, and [=LeBlanc=], she's still loyal to Noxus and thinks that her city-state deserves to rule anyone weak enough to be conquered. But for some fans, she'll always be just a sexy, badass woman to drool over -- or an ''extremely'' {{Tsundere}} match for [[FoeYay Garen]] -- not a fighter/assassin who lives for the kill and takes real joy in shedding blood.
** That said, Noxus itself is getting this treatment, especially as Riot has been hinting that the rivalry with Demacia is more along the lines of GreyAndGrayMorality. Demacia is less TheParagon of 'shining justice' as its flaws have started to show, while Noxus' [[TheSocialDarwinist "the strong eat the weak" credo]] has produced characters across the whole swath of the moral spectrum, not just a horde of {{Card Carrying Villain}}s. This makes Katarina seem even more sympathetic, since she is on the 'somewhat more good' side of the scale. Even Draven can draw this card, as there is an even chance that anyone he just executed was [[KickTheSonOfABitch an utter scumbag who really deserved it.]]
** While not as bad as others, Rumble is usually by default portrayed as a xenophobic, Yordle-supremacist jerk, though he has [[FreudianExcuse a history of bullying victim to excuse that.]] Fans like to latch onto that excuse better and gave their wishes for him to end up with Tristana either way and make Rumble seem more pitiful and sympathetic, forgetting or toning down his supremacist attitude, because... well because his rival for that is [[TheScrappy the universally hated]] [[ButtMonkey Teemo]], who would usually more likely be the genuine force of good and a more sociable, pleasant Yordle.
** Perhaps the most egregious example is [[MalevolentMaskedMan Jhin]], whom the majority of the fanbase tend to conveniently forget is a [[SoftSpokenSadist deranged]], [[AxCrazy psychopathic]] [[SerialKiller mass murderer.]] He even has some fangirls out-of-universe despite [[TheFaceless his face never being revealed.]]
15th Nov '17 12:37:12 AM LegitimateIdiot
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** Foxy gets to wear the leather pants more than any of the main animatronics due to his popularity with furries, as well as the initial belief that he was the one that committed the Bite of 1987 and therefore caused Pirate Cove to be closed to the public. There is even [[http://freddy-fazbears-pizza.wikia.com/wiki/Theories_%26_Rumors#Foxy_is_a_Good_Guy a theory]] that he is even a good guy ''in universe'': according to this theory he becomes worried about Mike if he notices his camera hasn't been checked for a while and runs to the office to make sure the guard is okay okay, only for a malfunctioning voicebox to trigger a heart attack which kills Mike. In fairness, he ''is'' the only robot in the original game who does not get in the player's face when attacking; instead the Game Over is caused by him "leaning" into the office through the door, almost as if he's just popping up to pass Mike a message.

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** Foxy gets to wear the leather pants more than any of the main animatronics due to his popularity with furries, as well as the initial belief that he was the one that committed the Bite of 1987 87 and therefore caused Pirate Cove to be closed to the public. There is even [[http://freddy-fazbears-pizza.wikia.com/wiki/Theories_%26_Rumors#Foxy_is_a_Good_Guy a theory]] that he is even a good guy ''in universe'': according to this theory he becomes worried about Mike if he notices his camera hasn't been checked for a while and runs to the office to make sure the guard is okay okay, only for a malfunctioning voicebox to trigger a heart attack which kills Mike. In fairness, he ''is'' the only robot in the original game who does not get in the player's face when attacking; instead the Game Over is caused by him "leaning" into the office through the door, almost as if he's just popping up to pass Mike a message.
14th Nov '17 11:43:58 PM LegitimateIdiot
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** Foxy gets to wear the leather pants more than any other villain due to his popularity. There is even [[http://freddy-fazbears-pizza.wikia.com/wiki/Theories_%26_Rumors#Foxy_is_a_Good_Guy a theory]] that he is even a good guy ''in universe'': according to this theory he becomes worried about Mike if he notices his camera hasn't been checked for a while and runs to the office to make sure the guard is okay okay, only for a malfunctioning voicebox to trigger a heart attack which kills Mike. In fairness, he ''is'' the only robot in the original game who does not get in the player's face when attacking; instead the Game Over is caused by him "leaning" into the office through the door, almost as if he's just popping up to pass Mike a message.

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** Foxy gets to wear the leather pants more than any other villain of the main animatronics due to his popularity.popularity with furries, as well as the initial belief that he was the one that committed the Bite of 1987 and therefore caused Pirate Cove to be closed to the public. There is even [[http://freddy-fazbears-pizza.wikia.com/wiki/Theories_%26_Rumors#Foxy_is_a_Good_Guy a theory]] that he is even a good guy ''in universe'': according to this theory he becomes worried about Mike if he notices his camera hasn't been checked for a while and runs to the office to make sure the guard is okay okay, only for a malfunctioning voicebox to trigger a heart attack which kills Mike. In fairness, he ''is'' the only robot in the original game who does not get in the player's face when attacking; instead the Game Over is caused by him "leaning" into the office through the door, almost as if he's just popping up to pass Mike a message.



** Among the animatronics, Springtrap rivals Foxy in terms of leather pants-wearing, with many interpreting him as a [[TheAtoner remorseful]] anti villain of some kind, despite being just as deadly as -- if not more than -- the other animatronics and [[spoiler:being haunted by the Purple Man]]. ''Videogame/FiveNightsAtFreddysSisterLocation'' added more fuel to this with its ending; [[spoiler:[[AmbiguousSituation though the wording is vague enough]] that it can refer to either the events of ''Sister Location'' or ''3''[='=]s minigames, protagonist Michael Afton's narration prior to Springtrap's appearance offers the possibility that ''he'' is Springtrap and not his father (who, if this is the case, is likely still alive somewhere)]].

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** Among the animatronics, Springtrap rivals Foxy in terms of leather pants-wearing, with many interpreting him as a [[TheAtoner remorseful]] anti villain of some kind, despite being just as deadly as -- if not more than -- the other animatronics and [[spoiler:being haunted by the Purple Man]]. ''Videogame/FiveNightsAtFreddysSisterLocation'' added more fuel to this with its ending; [[spoiler:[[AmbiguousSituation though the wording is vague enough]] that it can refer to either the events of ''Sister Location'' or ''3''[='=]s minigames, protagonist Michael Afton's narration prior to Springtrap's appearance offers the possibility that ''he'' is Springtrap and not his father (who, if this is the case, is likely still alive somewhere)]].
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