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2nd May '16 12:33:07 AM Melancholeric
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** Similarly, [[TheRevolutionWillNotBeCivilized Daisy Fitzroy]] from ''[[VideoGame/BioShockInfinite Infinite]]'' is turned into a martyr by social justice warriors who find the game and its message of non-extremism racist, despite her having tried to [[spoiler:kill both the main characters when she no longer found any use for them and threatened her cult of personality, following it all up by trying to kill a small boy.]]

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** Similarly, [[TheRevolutionWillNotBeCivilized Daisy Fitzroy]] from ''[[VideoGame/BioShockInfinite Infinite]]'' is turned into a martyr by social justice warriors people who find the game and its message of non-extremism racist, despite her having tried to [[spoiler:kill both the main characters when she no longer found any use for them and threatened her cult of personality, following it all up by trying to kill a small boy.]]
26th Apr '16 3:51:56 PM Steven
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* ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'' has [[spoiler: Chara/The Fallen Child, a young kid who ran away from their village, was raised by monsters as an adoptive child, played mean and dangerous pranks (one which got Asgore very sick) while laughing about it, and then committed suicide so that Asriel could absorb their soul to get more power so that the two of them could kill all the humans in a village where the child ran away from (though Asriel decides not to go through with it at the last minute). The chain of events results in the death of Asriel and the breakup of his parents. If you get the Genocide ending, Chara comes back to life and destroys the entire world because of your horrible influence and thirst for violence and death. If you were to ask Undertale fans about Chara, you'd see a lot of people defending them saying that they had a rough life or that they just need more love. Though given that the game emphasizes sparing everyone, even someone as sadistic as Flowey, as the correct action, it invites this trope onto itself.]]

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* ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'' has ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'':
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[[spoiler: Chara/The Fallen Child, a young kid who ran away from their village, was raised by monsters Toriel and Asgore as an adoptive child, child. He played mean and dangerous pranks (one which got Asgore very sick) while laughing about it, and then committed suicide so that Asriel could absorb their soul to get more power so that the two of them could kill all the humans in a village where the child ran away from (though Asriel decides not to go through with it at the last minute).from. The chain of events results in the death of Asriel and the breakup of his parents. If you get the Genocide ending, Chara comes back to life and destroys the entire world because of your horrible influence and thirst for violence and death. If you were to ask Undertale fans about Chara, you'd see a lot of people defending them saying that they had a rough life or that they just need more love. Though given that the game emphasizes sparing everyone, even someone as sadistic as Flowey, as the correct action, it invites this trope onto itself.]]
** Toriel surprisingly can come off as this. She's so sweet and kind to the player character at the start of the game that most people inadvertently look over her [[spoiler: grievances with Asgore. Because Asgore declared war on humans in a moment of rage after his children died and then having other people do it because he couldn't do it himself, Toriel leaves him because of his cowardice and inability to do the job himself (Asgore's actions instilled hope in his people, but remained helpless for a long time since he didn't do the deed himself). In the path to the GoldenEnding, Toriel expresses disdain for Asgore, but nothing more beyond it and during the actual ending, it shows Asgore trimming hedges at Toriel's school, implying that the two of them may be working it out. Toriel fans not only see Toriel as completely in the right for her bad treatment to Asgore, but some fanworks show Toriel as verbally abusing Asgore at every chance she can get just because of what Asgore did.
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16th Apr '16 12:42:54 PM SaraJaye
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* Both of the ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemElibe Elibe]]'' villains from ''Franchise/FireEmblem'', King Zephiel and Nergal, get slapped with this treatment a lot. Both ''do'' have horrid pasts - the former (as ''Blazing Sword'' shows in one chapter) has AbusiveParents, with the mother ignoring him and the father having nearly ''murdered him twice,'' and the latter ''used'' to be a good shaman [[spoiler:and family man]] before being corrupted [[DrunkOnTheDarkSide by the dark side]]. Zephiel winds up waging a massive war against the whole continent with the intent of ''wiping out humanity,'' and Nergal wants something similar, except that he also wants to control dragonkind as well. But to a part of the fandom, they're only victims of the cicumstances and not responsible for anything.

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* Both of the ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemElibe Elibe]]'' villains from ''Franchise/FireEmblem'', King Zephiel and Nergal, get slapped with this treatment a lot. Both ''do'' have horrid pasts - the former (as ''Blazing Sword'' shows in one chapter) has AbusiveParents, with the mother ignoring him and the father having nearly ''murdered him twice,'' and the latter ''used'' to be a good shaman [[spoiler:and family man]] before being corrupted [[DrunkOnTheDarkSide by the dark side]]. Zephiel winds up waging a massive war against the whole continent with the intent of ''wiping out humanity,'' and Nergal wants something similar, except that he also wants to control dragonkind as well. But to a part of the fandom, they're only victims of the cicumstances circumstances and not responsible for anything.



** Garon from ''Fates'' is getting a bit of this, too. While [[spoiler:the real]] Garon ''was'' once a good person turned bitter by a rough life, that doesn't excuse his kidnapping of the Avatar or his original attempt to start a war against Hoshido.

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** * Garon from ''Fates'' is getting a bit of this, too. While [[spoiler:the real]] Garon ''was'' once a good person turned bitter by a rough life, that doesn't excuse his kidnapping of the Avatar or his original attempt to start a war against Hoshido.Hoshido.
** Nohr in general is starting to get this as a spillover of casting Hoshido in a RonTheDeathEater light. While the playable characters of both kingdoms are more or less decent folks ranging from FriendToAllLivingThings to JerkWithAHeartOfGold, the Nohrian royal siblings are treated as woobies because of their messed-up childhood, ignoring that with the exception of [[IncorruptiblePurePureness Elise]] they ''are'' capable of cruelty and violence on any given route.
2nd Apr '16 11:56:33 PM SheldonDinkleburg
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* ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'' has [[spoiler: Chara/The Fallen Child, a young kid who ran away from their village, was raised by monsters as an adoptive child, played mean and dangerous pranks (one which got Asgore very sick) while laughing about it, and then committed suicide so that Asriel could absorb their soul to get more power so that the two of them could kill all the humans in a village where the child ran away from (though Asriel decides not to go through with it at the last minute). The chain of events results in the death of Asriel and the breakup of his parents. If you get the Genocide ending, Chara comes back to life and destroys the entire world because of your horrible influence and thirst for violence and death. If you were to ask Undertale fans about Chara, you'd see a lot of people defending them saying that they had a rough life or that they just need more love.]]

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* ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'' has [[spoiler: Chara/The Fallen Child, a young kid who ran away from their village, was raised by monsters as an adoptive child, played mean and dangerous pranks (one which got Asgore very sick) while laughing about it, and then committed suicide so that Asriel could absorb their soul to get more power so that the two of them could kill all the humans in a village where the child ran away from (though Asriel decides not to go through with it at the last minute). The chain of events results in the death of Asriel and the breakup of his parents. If you get the Genocide ending, Chara comes back to life and destroys the entire world because of your horrible influence and thirst for violence and death. If you were to ask Undertale fans about Chara, you'd see a lot of people defending them saying that they had a rough life or that they just need more love. Though given that the game emphasizes sparing everyone, even someone as sadistic as Flowey, as the correct action, it invites this trope onto itself.]]
26th Mar '16 7:20:07 PM ChrisX
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** Now we add Amara Balshem from ''2nd VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsOriginalGeneration''. Her first appearance is shooting down the entire Huckebein series, a fan-favorite mech thanks to their likeness with the ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'' mechs, shot down [[Characters/SuperRobotWarsOriginalGeneration Ing Egret]] twice, the second one being a sneak attack, and is very fanatical to her boss till he gets rid of her. The first point alone would have already marked her as TheScrappy for even thinking of killing an entire line of fan-favorite mechs. Instead, fan reaction is that the entire thing is not her fault but rather by Creator/NamcoBandai (granted, Namco Bandai have been shuffling out the Huckebein series due to likeness to Gundam since ''The Inspectors'' anime, but the act of having someone destroy it in-universe is still a pretty low blow), and true to the trope, it's because she's an at least an attractive female when she's not putting up her 'fanatical' face, and being voiced by [[Creator/HarunaIkezawa a voice actress]] who [[Anime/DancougarNova voiced in an anime that became something of a regular series in the mainline SRW]]. She became so popular that they made her into a playable character in ''[[VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsEX Coffin of the End]]''. It also helps that while her act of destroying the Huckebein series was a dick move... it's ''not'' a MoralEventHorizon, someone else has done worse.

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** Now we add Amara Balshem from ''2nd VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsOriginalGeneration''. Her first appearance is shooting down the entire Huckebein series, a fan-favorite mech thanks to their likeness with the ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'' mechs, shot down [[Characters/SuperRobotWarsOriginalGeneration Ing Egret]] twice, the second one being a sneak attack, and is very fanatical to her boss till he gets rid of her. The first point alone would have already marked her as TheScrappy for even thinking of killing an entire line of fan-favorite mechs. Instead, fan reaction is that the entire thing is not her fault but rather by Creator/NamcoBandai (granted, Namco Bandai have been shuffling out the Huckebein series due to likeness to Gundam since ''The Inspectors'' anime, but the act of having someone destroy it in-universe is still a pretty low blow), and true to the trope, it's because she's an at least an attractive female when she's not putting up her 'fanatical' face, and being voiced by [[Creator/HarunaIkezawa a voice actress]] who [[Anime/DancougarNova voiced in an anime that became something of a regular series in the mainline SRW]]. She became so popular that they made her into a playable character in ''[[VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsEX Coffin of the End]]''. It also helps that while her act of destroying the Huckebein series was a dick move... it's ''not'' a MoralEventHorizon, someone else has done worse.
26th Mar '16 7:19:04 PM ChrisX
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** Now we add Amara Balshem from ''2nd VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsOriginalGeneration''. Her first appearance is shooting down the entire Huckebein series, a fan-favorite mech thanks to their likeness with the ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'' mechs, shot down [[Characters/SuperRobotWarsOriginalGeneration Ing Egret]] twice, the second one being a sneak attack, and is very fanatical to her boss till he gets rid of her. The first point alone would have already marked her as TheScrappy for even thinking of killing an entire line of fan-favorite mechs. Instead, fan reaction is that the entire thing is not her fault but rather by Creator/NamcoBandai (granted, Namco Bandai have been shuffling out the Huckebein series due to likeness to Gundam since ''The Inspectors'' anime, but the act of having someone destroy it in-universe is still a pretty low blow), and true to the trope, it's because she's an at least an attractive female when she's not putting up her 'fanatical' face, and being voiced by [[Creator/HarunaIkezawa a voice actress]] who [[Anime/DancougarNova voiced in an anime that became something of a regular series in the mainline SRW]]. She became so popular that they made her into a playable character in ''[[VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsEX Coffin of the End]]''. It also helps that while her act of destroying the Huckebein series was a dick move... it's ''not'' a MoralEventHorizon, someone has done worse.

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** Now we add Amara Balshem from ''2nd VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsOriginalGeneration''. Her first appearance is shooting down the entire Huckebein series, a fan-favorite mech thanks to their likeness with the ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'' mechs, shot down [[Characters/SuperRobotWarsOriginalGeneration Ing Egret]] twice, the second one being a sneak attack, and is very fanatical to her boss till he gets rid of her. The first point alone would have already marked her as TheScrappy for even thinking of killing an entire line of fan-favorite mechs. Instead, fan reaction is that the entire thing is not her fault but rather by Creator/NamcoBandai (granted, Namco Bandai have been shuffling out the Huckebein series due to likeness to Gundam since ''The Inspectors'' anime, but the act of having someone destroy it in-universe is still a pretty low blow), and true to the trope, it's because she's an at least an attractive female when she's not putting up her 'fanatical' face, and being voiced by [[Creator/HarunaIkezawa a voice actress]] who [[Anime/DancougarNova voiced in an anime that became something of a regular series in the mainline SRW]]. She became so popular that they made her into a playable character in ''[[VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsEX Coffin of the End]]''. It also helps that while her act of destroying the Huckebein series was a dick move... it's ''not'' a MoralEventHorizon, someone else has done worse.
26th Mar '16 7:18:51 PM ChrisX
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** Now we add Amara Balshem from ''2nd VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsOriginalGeneration''. Her first appearance is shooting down the entire Huckebein series, a fan-favorite mech thanks to their likeness with the ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'' mechs, shot down [[Characters/SuperRobotWarsOriginalGeneration Ing Egret]] twice, the second one being a sneak attack, and is very fanatical to her boss till he gets rid of her. The first point alone would have already marked her as TheScrappy for even thinking of killing an entire line of fan-favorite mechs. Instead, fan reaction is that the entire thing is not her fault but rather by Creator/NamcoBandai. She became so popular that they made her into a playable character in ''[[VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsEX Coffin of the End]]''.

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** Now we add Amara Balshem from ''2nd VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsOriginalGeneration''. Her first appearance is shooting down the entire Huckebein series, a fan-favorite mech thanks to their likeness with the ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'' mechs, shot down [[Characters/SuperRobotWarsOriginalGeneration Ing Egret]] twice, the second one being a sneak attack, and is very fanatical to her boss till he gets rid of her. The first point alone would have already marked her as TheScrappy for even thinking of killing an entire line of fan-favorite mechs. Instead, fan reaction is that the entire thing is not her fault but rather by Creator/NamcoBandai.Creator/NamcoBandai (granted, Namco Bandai have been shuffling out the Huckebein series due to likeness to Gundam since ''The Inspectors'' anime, but the act of having someone destroy it in-universe is still a pretty low blow), and true to the trope, it's because she's an at least an attractive female when she's not putting up her 'fanatical' face, and being voiced by [[Creator/HarunaIkezawa a voice actress]] who [[Anime/DancougarNova voiced in an anime that became something of a regular series in the mainline SRW]]. She became so popular that they made her into a playable character in ''[[VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsEX Coffin of the End]]''. It also helps that while her act of destroying the Huckebein series was a dick move... it's ''not'' a MoralEventHorizon, someone has done worse.
4th Mar '16 9:51:18 AM AsForMyHandle
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* ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'' has [[spoiler: Chara/The Fallen Child, a young kid who ran away from his village, was raised by monsters as an adoptive child, played mean and dangerous pranks (one which got Asgore very sick) while laughing about it, and then committed suicide so that Asriel could absorb his soul to get more power so that the two of them could kill all the humans in a village where the child ran away from (though Asriel decides not to go through with it at the last minute). The chain of events results in the death of Asriel and the breakup of his parents. If you get the Genocide ending, Chara comes back to life and destroys the entire world because of your horrible influence and thirst for violence and death. If you were to ask Undertale fans about Chara, you'd see a lot of people defending him saying that he had rough life or that he just needs more love.]]

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* ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'' has [[spoiler: Chara/The Fallen Child, a young kid who ran away from his their village, was raised by monsters as an adoptive child, played mean and dangerous pranks (one which got Asgore very sick) while laughing about it, and then committed suicide so that Asriel could absorb his their soul to get more power so that the two of them could kill all the humans in a village where the child ran away from (though Asriel decides not to go through with it at the last minute). The chain of events results in the death of Asriel and the breakup of his parents. If you get the Genocide ending, Chara comes back to life and destroys the entire world because of your horrible influence and thirst for violence and death. If you were to ask Undertale fans about Chara, you'd see a lot of people defending him them saying that he they had a rough life or that he they just needs need more love.]]
29th Feb '16 12:07:34 PM salvadorfranz
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** Now we add Amara Balshem from ''2nd VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsOriginalGeneration''. Her first appearance is shooting down the entire Huckebein series, a fan-favorite mech thanks to their likeness with the ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'' mechs, shot down [[Characters/SuperRobotWarsOriginalGeneration Ing Egret]] twice, the second one being a sneak attack, and is very fanatical to her boss till he gets rid of her. The first point alone would have already marked her as TheScrappy for even thinking of killing an entire line of fan-favorite mechs. Instead, fan reaction is that the entire thing is not her fault but rather by Creator/NamcoBandai. She became so popular that they made her into a playable character in ''[[VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsEX Coffin of the End]]''.
27th Feb '16 3:00:45 PM Steven
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* ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'' has [[spoiler: Chara/The Fallen Child, a young kid who ran away from his village, was raised by monsters as an adoptive child, played mean and dangerous pranks (one which got Asgore very sick) while laughing about it, and then committed suicide so that Asriel could absorb his soul to get more power so that the two of them could kill all the humans in a village where the child ran away from (though Asriel decides not to go through with it at the last minute). The chain of events results in the death of Asriel and the breakup of his parents. If you get the Genocide ending, Chara comes back to life and destroys the entire world because of your horrible influence and thirst for violence and death. If you were to ask Undertale fans about Chara, you'd see a lot of people defending him saying that he had rough life or that he just needs more love.]]
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