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11th Jan '17 4:20:43 PM Sammettik
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** Susie from ''VideoGameKirby/PlanetRobobot'' gets a similar treatment to Marx. While she did join forces with Kirby before the FinalBoss fight, it was an EnemyMine situation driven by PragmaticVillainy, not a genuine HeelFaceTurn, and she's still firmly in villain territory by the game's end.

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** Susie from ''VideoGameKirby/PlanetRobobot'' ''VideoGame/KirbyPlanetRobobot'' gets a similar treatment to Marx. While she did join forces with Kirby before the FinalBoss fight, it was an EnemyMine situation driven by PragmaticVillainy, not a genuine HeelFaceTurn, and she's still firmly in villain territory by the game's end.
7th Jan '17 12:46:07 PM Sammettik
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* The EldritchAbomination Zero of the ''Franchise/{{Kirby}}'' series has some fans rationalising that it wants to spread misery as a result of jealousy towards those who experience positive emotions. Or rather that it's just lonely and wants friends, despite nothing indicating such a thing.
** Speaking of Kirby, two other villians who constantly get this treatment are Marx from ''VideoGame/KirbySuperStar'' and Magolor from ''VideoGame/KirbysReturnToDreamLand''. Many fans ignore or refuse to accept the fact that these two are {{Manipulative Bastard}}s that tricked Kirby into helping them take over Pop Star (Marx) and the entire universe (Magolor). A lot of fanart for these two portray them as cute innocent guys who mean no harm instead of being evil. It doesn't help that both of them do look pretty cute.

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* The EldritchAbomination Zero of the ''Franchise/{{Kirby}}'' series has some fans rationalising rationalizing that it wants to spread misery as a result of jealousy towards those who experience positive emotions. Or emotions, or rather that it's just lonely and wants friends, despite nothing indicating such a thing.
friends. This stems from the Japanese Player's Guide to ''Kirby's Dream Land 2'', which gave Dark Matter this exact FreudianExcuse, but Zero wasn't introduced until ''Kirby's Dream Land 3'', yet the fanbase still applies the guide's words to ''only'' Zero and not the rest of Dark Matter.
** Speaking of Kirby, two Two other villians villains who constantly get this treatment are Marx from ''VideoGame/KirbySuperStar'' and Magolor from ''VideoGame/KirbysReturnToDreamLand''. Many fans ignore or refuse to accept the fact that these two are {{Manipulative Bastard}}s that tricked Kirby into helping them take over Pop Star (Marx) and the entire universe (Magolor). A lot of fanart for these two portray them as cute innocent guys who mean no harm instead of being evil. It doesn't help that both of them do look pretty cute.


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** Susie from ''VideoGameKirby/PlanetRobobot'' gets a similar treatment to Marx. While she did join forces with Kirby before the FinalBoss fight, it was an EnemyMine situation driven by PragmaticVillainy, not a genuine HeelFaceTurn, and she's still firmly in villain territory by the game's end.
7th Jan '17 12:30:16 PM Sammettik
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* [[KnightOfCerberus Cyrus]] from ''VideoGame/PokemonDiamondAndPearl''/''Platinum'' has quite the fanbase due to his sympathetic backstory... despite the fact that he tries to [[spoiler:destroy the universe and re-shape it using a Legendary Pokemon (Either Dialga, Palkia, or both depending on which version you get) so that he can [[AGodAmI basically become God]]]].

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* [[KnightOfCerberus [[KnightOfCerebus Cyrus]] from ''VideoGame/PokemonDiamondAndPearl''/''Platinum'' has quite the fanbase due to his sympathetic backstory... despite the fact that he tries to [[spoiler:destroy the universe and re-shape it using a Legendary Pokemon (Either Dialga, Palkia, or both depending on which version you get) so that he can [[AGodAmI basically become God]]]].
7th Jan '17 12:29:23 PM Sammettik
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** This happened preemptively with [[VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon Mimikyu]], whose appearance was leaked before the game came out. It's a Ghost-type that crudely disguises itself as a Pikachu, so the fans immediately decided it was [[TheWoobie a pure-hearted lost soul who just wants to be loved]]. Then the games came out... where it's presented like a vengeful spirit from a horror movie, with one Pokedex entry saying no one knows what it looks like because [[GoMadFromTheRevelation the one person who peeked under its disguise died of shock]]. In the anime, it makes terrifying noises while attacking the heroes, and immediately joins up with Team Rocket. If anything, these revelations only made it more popular.
5th Jan '17 3:08:26 AM WanderingBrowser
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* There's a fairly large MisaimedFandom in general for ''VideoGame/{{Outlast}}'', given the propensity for Tumblr to turn the Variants ([[BodyHorror hideously deformed]] psychopathic murderers) into cute, funny, "misunderstood" bishies. This includes the likes of Doctor Trager, a poorly aged MadDoctor with [[EyeScream a random assortment of gears in one eye]] and who likes running around in a NakedApron, showing off the myriad surgical scars all over his wrinkly old man butt, and Chris Walker, a massive ex-military police officer whose former comrades [[MeaningfulName deservedly nicknamed him]] [[StoutStrength "Strongfat"]] and who now roams the Asylum with [[FacialHorror his nose & lips torn off and with a "third eye" drilled into his forehead]], tearing the heads off of anyone who catches his attention.
** However, the absolute ''king'' of this is Eddie Gluskin, who is more or less the BigBad of the ''Whistleblower'' DLC due to being the Variant with the longest interaction with the player. This individual is the only named Variant confirmed as having been a case of InsaneEqualsViolent even before the twisted experiments, having originally been a misogynistic SerialKiller who abducted, tortured and murdered women as part of his obsessive quest to find a "perfect" women to become his bride. A psychological report on him that you can find in-game notes that he's an attention whore who [[IRejectYourReality refuses to acknowledge things he doesn't want to]] and will tell anyone whatever he thinks they want to hear in a transparent attempt to manipulate them. During the events of the Mount Massive Massacre, he takes to assaulting random inmates; as transmisogynistic as he is misogynistic, he's become fixated upon the idea that he can turn men into his ideal woman. Such unfortunates are shaven clean before he [[GroinAttack brutally hacks off their genitalia]] in an attempt to "make" himself a vagina to use, which of course kills them. The player character Waylon Park ''narrowly'' avoids taking a circular saw to the crotch during a prolonged scene of ControlledHelplessness and has to play a cat-and-mouse game with Gluskin throughout the penultimate chapter, listening to him alternatively cajole the player to become "his woman"[[note]]Waylon is canonically a straight man, HappilyMarried, with two sons[[/note]] and spouting misogynistic slurs. In the end, he gets a KarmicDeath when he ends up impaling himself painfully through the guts whilst trying to hang Waylon. And yet he has a ''huge'' fandom amongst female players and '''especially''' amongst the YaoiFangirls, to the point that Eddie/Waylon romances make up the vast majority of ''Outlast'' fanfiction, approached only by Eddie/female original character romances. Why? Because of his stated goal to be an old-fashioned chivalric loving father & husband, his politeness (when not spewing slurs like "whore" at you for evading him), for being a cute guy who remains UglyCute after being turned into a Variant[[note]]his FacialHorror is mostly a case of RedEyesTakeWarning[[/note]], running around in a sharp tuxedo outfit (albeit one covered in blood from his victims), the fact he begs Waylon for help in the prelude of the game, and his DarkAndTroubledPast, which involves being raped by [[AbusiveParents his father and his uncle]] and which he denies ever happened.
*** Really, the Leather Pantsing is so extreme that not only is Waylon Park sometimes outright slapped with RonTheDeathEater treatment due to "rejecting poor, sweet Eddie's love" or refusing to help him at the start, the biggest BrokenBase is between Eddie's adoring fangirls and the irate fans who despise the idea of giving him such treatment, given he's canonically one of the sickest individuals in the series.
4th Jan '17 4:09:24 PM nombretomado
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* [[spoiler: Wheatley]] from VideoGame/{{Portal 2}}. While he's a [[{{Adorkable}} lovable character]], and there's [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation certain amount of personal interpretation]] involved as to whether he was good and BrainwashedAndCrazy, or EvilAllAlong, there's no doubt that he had his flaws -- something that his fangirls ''very'' frequently forget. So much so that it's a common fanfic plot to have him end up back on Earth, and subsequently be EasilyForgiven by and hook up with Chell. The awfulness of what he did, brainwashed or not, is rarely addressed.
** GLaDOS sometimes gets this as well. While most of her fans embrace her evilness and love her for it, there are also those who completely ignore her murderousness and reduce her to a somewhat bitchy, but [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold ultimately goodhearted]], DeadpanSnarker. This is often done in the name of making [[FoeYay their favorite ships]] more plausible.

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* ''VideoGame/{{Portal}}'':
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[[spoiler: Wheatley]] from VideoGame/{{Portal 2}}. Wheatley]]: While he's a [[{{Adorkable}} lovable character]], and there's [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation certain amount of personal interpretation]] involved as to whether he was good and BrainwashedAndCrazy, or EvilAllAlong, there's no doubt that he had his flaws -- something that his fangirls ''very'' frequently forget. So much so that it's a common fanfic plot to have him end up back on Earth, and subsequently be EasilyForgiven by and hook up with Chell. The awfulness of what he did, brainwashed or not, is rarely addressed.
** GLaDOS [=GLaDOS=] sometimes gets this as well.this. While most of her fans embrace her evilness and love her for it, there are also those who completely ignore her murderousness and reduce her to a somewhat bitchy, but [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold ultimately goodhearted]], DeadpanSnarker. This is often done in the name of making [[FoeYay their favorite ships]] more plausible.
28th Dec '16 9:56:43 AM Lemia
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* Toma from ''[[VideoGame/AmnesiaOtome Amnesia: Memories]]'' came in at number 1 on a Japanese popularity poll in spite of being the love interest who treats the heroine the worst by a ''wide'' margin. Apparently a lot of fangirls found a {{Yandere}} who drugs the heroine's food and ''locks her up in a cage'' to prevent her from leaving his home to be justifiable or even sexy. Even Toma himself expressed bewilderment at being ranked so highly in the poll. This is largely limited to Japanese fans, however; the vast majority of Western fans [[AmericansHateTingle detest him]].

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* Toma from ''[[VideoGame/AmnesiaOtome Amnesia: Memories]]'' came in at number 1 on a Japanese popularity poll for the game in spite of being the love interest who treats the heroine the worst by a ''wide'' margin. Apparently a lot of fangirls found a {{Yandere}} who drugs the heroine's food and ''locks her up in a cage'' to prevent her from leaving his home to be justifiable or even sexy. Even Toma himself expressed bewilderment at being ranked so highly in the poll. This is largely limited to Japanese fans, however; the vast majority of Western fans [[AmericansHateTingle detest him]].
28th Dec '16 9:56:10 AM Lemia
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* Toma from ''[[VideoGame/AmnesiaOtome Amnesia: Memories]]'' came in at number 1 on a Japanese popularity poll in spite of being the love interest who treats the heroine the worst by a ''wide'' margin. Apparently a lot of fangirls found a {{Yandere}} who drugs the heroine's food and ''locks her up in a cage'' to prevent her from leaving his home to be justifiable or even sexy. Even Toma himself expressed bewilderment at being ranked so highly in the poll. This is largely limited to Japanese fans, however; the vast majority of Western fans [[AmericansHateTingle detest him]].
23rd Dec '16 9:37:05 PM Argon2
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** It doesn't hurt that Squall is at least as much of an immature jackass for much if not all of the game depending on who you ask, moreover the story implies Seifer was under mind control for at least his more objectionable actions, and the ending shows us he gets better.
21st Dec '16 10:00:25 AM Morgenthaler
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** [[ChildrenAreCruel Silver]], TheRival from the [[VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndSilver second generation]], gets this a good bit too; he's easily the biggest asshole of the rivals in the series (what with Blue basically just being kind of a brat and petty bully, and the others all being friendly), between stealing from Elm, kicking/punching/shoving you in what is one of the only direct acts of violence from a human in the series, and infamously ''stripping you'' just when you were about to infiltrate a building infested with Team Rocket members, but yet he is one of the most popular and loved within the rivals. However, unlike some other examples it can be justified if the fanwork depicts him in the later parts of or after the events of the game, as he does get a HeelFaceTurn and majorly [[TookALevelInKindness takes a level in kindness]] by the end. It helps that he, in the remakes at least, has one of clearest character arcs and CharacterDevelopment of any rival, has a FreudianExcuse in [[spoiler: being [[BigBad Giovanni's]] abandoned son]] with a major InferioritySuperiorityComplex thanks to it (quite possibly the primary reason for his popularity), acts like a {{Tsundere}} towards the end, becomes a borderline doting trainer and has nothing but humble respect for you by the end, has much more of a pretty boy look, and for the less emotional side of the fanbase, the fact that he's such a {{Badass}}, that people tend to love him. It should be said that when he is discussed, even fans of him almost unanimously agree that he was an unrepentant {{Jerkass}} HateSink initially.

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** [[ChildrenAreCruel Silver]], TheRival from the [[VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndSilver second generation]], gets this a good bit too; he's easily the biggest asshole of the rivals in the series (what with Blue basically just being kind of a brat and petty bully, and the others all being friendly), between stealing from Elm, kicking/punching/shoving you in what is one of the only direct acts of violence from a human in the series, and infamously ''stripping you'' just when you were about to infiltrate a building infested with Team Rocket members, but yet he is one of the most popular and loved within the rivals. However, unlike some other examples it can be justified if the fanwork depicts him in the later parts of or after the events of the game, as he does get a HeelFaceTurn and majorly [[TookALevelInKindness takes a level in kindness]] by the end. It helps that he, in the remakes at least, has one of clearest character arcs and CharacterDevelopment of any rival, has a FreudianExcuse in [[spoiler: being [[BigBad Giovanni's]] abandoned son]] with a major InferioritySuperiorityComplex thanks to it (quite possibly the primary reason for his popularity), acts like a {{Tsundere}} towards the end, becomes a borderline doting trainer and has nothing but humble respect for you by the end, has much more of a pretty boy look, and for the less emotional side of the fanbase, the fact that he's such a {{Badass}}, badass, that people tend to love him. It should be said that when he is discussed, even fans of him almost unanimously agree that he was an unrepentant {{Jerkass}} HateSink initially.



* The Origami Killer [[spoiler:(a.k.a. Scott Shelby)]] in ''VideoGame/HeavyRain'' Not only is he [[spoiler:the most {{Badass}} [[VillainProtagonist player character]] in the game]], he also has numerous PetTheDog moments long, long before TheReveal. This is compounded when [[spoiler:you see how crappy his childhood was, and that he's doing all this to get back at fathers that don't love their kids.]] The problem? '''He's murdering children.''' By the time the game starts, he's already killed at least eight people, not counting the parents that vanished trying to save their sons. Even if [[spoiler:you find Shaun, he'll gladly shoot you in the back ''and let your son drown.'']]
* Kratos of ''VideoGame/GodOfWar'', who's {{Badass}}ery in enough that fans make excuses for his more evil actions. (Some people say that his actions were somewhat justified because the Greek gods messed with his life; of course, a list of people who's lives were ruined in ''actual'' Myth/GreekMythology because the Greek gods "messed with their lives" (compared to, say, Heracles, Kratos was lucky) would fill a very large book, and lots of them turned out to be far more benign than he was.)

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* The Origami Killer [[spoiler:(a.k.a. Scott Shelby)]] in ''VideoGame/HeavyRain'' Not only is he [[spoiler:the most {{Badass}} badass [[VillainProtagonist player character]] in the game]], he also has numerous PetTheDog moments long, long before TheReveal. This is compounded when [[spoiler:you see how crappy his childhood was, and that he's doing all this to get back at fathers that don't love their kids.]] The problem? '''He's murdering children.''' By the time the game starts, he's already killed at least eight people, not counting the parents that vanished trying to save their sons. Even if [[spoiler:you find Shaun, he'll gladly shoot you in the back ''and let your son drown.'']]
* Kratos of ''VideoGame/GodOfWar'', who's {{Badass}}ery badassery in enough that fans make excuses for his more evil actions. (Some people say that his actions were somewhat justified because the Greek gods messed with his life; of course, a list of people who's lives were ruined in ''actual'' Myth/GreekMythology because the Greek gods "messed with their lives" (compared to, say, Heracles, Kratos was lucky) would fill a very large book, and lots of them turned out to be far more benign than he was.)



* Vergil in ''Franchise/DevilMayCry 3'', although he is not as {{egregious}} as some other examples. His lust for power might be enough to make him villainous and the nature to excuse that because he's such an aloof {{badass}} is certainly there but his character has more nuances that skew towards AntiVillain (namely that his driving motivation is the DarkAndTroubledPast of demonic forces killing his mother, much the same as his brother, who simply chose a more heroic outlet in pursuit of the same goal of making demonkind pay for it).

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* Vergil in ''Franchise/DevilMayCry 3'', although he is not as {{egregious}} as some other examples. His lust for power might be enough to make him villainous and the nature to excuse that because he's such an aloof {{badass}} badass is certainly there but his character has more nuances that skew towards AntiVillain (namely that his driving motivation is the DarkAndTroubledPast of demonic forces killing his mother, much the same as his brother, who simply chose a more heroic outlet in pursuit of the same goal of making demonkind pay for it).
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