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27th Aug '16 9:28:43 PM shonengirl
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** [[ChildrenAreCruel Silver]], TheRival from the [[VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndSilver second generation]], gets this a good bit too; he's easily the biggest asshole of the rivals in the series (what with Blue basically just being kind of a brat and petty bully, and the others all being friendly), between stealing from Elm, kicking/punching/shoving you in what is one of the only direct acts of violence from a human in the series, and ''stripping you'' just when you were about to infiltrate a building infested with Team Rocket members, but yet he is one of the most popular and loved within the rivals. However, unlike some other examples it can be justified if the fanwork depicts him in the later parts of or after the events of the game, as he does get a HeelFaceTurn and majorly [[TookALevelInKindness takes a level in kindness]] by the end. It helps that he, in the remakes at least, has one of clearest character arcs and CharacterDevelopment of any rival, has a FreudianExcuse in [[spoiler: being [[BigBad Giovanni's]] abandoned son]] with a major InferioritySuperiorityComplex thanks to it (quite possibly the primary reason for his popularity), acts like a {{Tsundere}}, becomes a borderline doting trainer and has nothing but humble respect for you by the end, has much more of a pretty boy look, and for the less emotional side of the fanbase, the fact that he's such a {{Badass}}, that people tend to love him. It should be said that when he is discussed, even fans of him almost anonymously agree that he was an unrepentant Jerkass HateSink initially.
** Generation I/III Blue sometimes gets this as well; while he isn't ''evil'' by any means, some, especially in the Japanese fanbase, make the mistake that relations between him and [[PlayerCharacter Red]] were perfectly peachy when [[AllThereInTheManual manuals]] [[UsedToBeASweetKid show that to not be the case]], or tone down his {{Jerkass}} qualities despite him being infamous for them. On the western side of things this can get particulary bad with people who believe that his Ratticate died on the S.S. Anne (some going as far as to give Red the RonTheDeathEater treatment), along with some people treating him as a bit of a MemeticBadass, probably in large part due to the reputation of his [[Anime/{{Pokemon}} anime]] counterpart. His more mature OlderAndWiser teenage self in the second generation and their remakes, and a Bishounen look in the latter, do not help matters.
** Giovanni himself gets this too, due to him being a rather handsome {{Yakuza}}[=/=][[TheMafia Mafia]] crime boss with nice clothes to boot. In the Japanese fandom this can be seen with the Rocket Executives as well; though they are still acknowledged as evil, they often get turned into more comical versions of themselves like a somewhat more competent version of [[Anime/{{Pokemon}} the Team Rocket Trio]], get their loyalty to Giovanni played as a TearJerker, or both.
** Ghetsis has neither a sympathetic backstory nor redeeming qualities nor outstanding beauty, so it must be his [[MagnificentBastard sheer bastardy charisma]] that earns him so many fangirls.

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** [[ChildrenAreCruel Silver]], TheRival from the [[VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndSilver second generation]], gets this a good bit too; he's easily the biggest asshole of the rivals in the series (what with Blue basically just being kind of a brat and petty bully, and the others all being friendly), between stealing from Elm, kicking/punching/shoving you in what is one of the only direct acts of violence from a human in the series, and infamously ''stripping you'' just when you were about to infiltrate a building infested with Team Rocket members, but yet he is one of the most popular and loved within the rivals. However, unlike some other examples it can be justified if the fanwork depicts him in the later parts of or after the events of the game, as he does get a HeelFaceTurn and majorly [[TookALevelInKindness takes a level in kindness]] by the end. It helps that he, in the remakes at least, has one of clearest character arcs and CharacterDevelopment of any rival, has a FreudianExcuse in [[spoiler: being [[BigBad Giovanni's]] abandoned son]] with a major InferioritySuperiorityComplex thanks to it (quite possibly the primary reason for his popularity), acts like a {{Tsundere}}, {{Tsundere}} towards the end, becomes a borderline doting trainer and has nothing but humble respect for you by the end, has much more of a pretty boy look, and for the less emotional side of the fanbase, the fact that he's such a {{Badass}}, that people tend to love him. It should be said that when he is discussed, even fans of him almost anonymously unanimously agree that he was an unrepentant Jerkass {{Jerkass}} HateSink initially.
** Generation I/III Blue sometimes gets this as well; while he isn't ''evil'' by any means, some, especially in the Japanese fanbase, make the mistake that relations between him and [[PlayerCharacter Red]] were perfectly peachy when [[AllThereInTheManual manuals]] [[UsedToBeASweetKid show that to not be the case]], or tone down his {{Jerkass}} qualities despite him being infamous for them. On the western side of things this can get particulary bad with people who believe that his Ratticate died on the S.S. Anne (some going as far as to give Red the RonTheDeathEater treatment), along with some people treating him as a bit of a MemeticBadass, probably in large part due to the reputation of his [[Anime/{{Pokemon}} anime]] counterpart. counterpart and being the FinalBoss. His more mature OlderAndWiser teenage self in the second generation and their remakes, and a Bishounen look in the latter, latter (and to a lesser extent in the first generation remakes), do not help matters.
** Giovanni himself gets this too, due to him being a rather handsome {{Yakuza}}[=/=][[TheMafia Mafia]] crime boss with nice clothes to boot. In the Japanese fandom this can be seen with the Rocket Executives as well; though they are still acknowledged as evil, ''evil'', they often get turned into more comical versions of themselves like a somewhat more competent version of [[Anime/{{Pokemon}} the Team Rocket Trio]], get their loyalty UndyingLoyalty (especially Archer) to Giovanni played as a TearJerker, or both.both. Note that these are a bunch of Pokemon traffickers, thieves, and murderers, but ''damn'' if Archer isn't loyal to his former boss. This may be at least partially attributable to the anime due to aforementioned TerribleTrio.
** Ghetsis has neither a sympathetic backstory nor redeeming qualities nor outstanding beauty, so it must be his [[MagnificentBastard sheer bastardy charisma]] that earns him so many fangirls. Occasionally he's even depicted as much less of a cruel father than he is in canon. However, even then the majority of the fanbase tends to [[LoveToHate just admire how well he does his job as a villain]] or [[HateSink simply hate his guts]]. [[BrokenBase There is practically no in-between]].
27th Aug '16 9:09:25 PM shonengirl
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* Cyrus from ''VideoGame/PokemonDiamondAndPearl''/''Platinum'' has quite the fanbase due to his sympathetic backstory... despite the fact that he tries to [[spoiler:destroy the universe and re-shape it using a Legendary Pokemon (Either Dialga, Palkia, or both depending on which version you get) so that he can become God]].

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* Cyrus [[KnightOfCerberus Cyrus]] from ''VideoGame/PokemonDiamondAndPearl''/''Platinum'' has quite the fanbase due to his sympathetic backstory... despite the fact that he tries to [[spoiler:destroy the universe and re-shape it using a Legendary Pokemon (Either Dialga, Palkia, or both depending on which version you get) so that he can [[AGodAmI basically become God]].God]]]].



** [[{{Jerkass}} Silver]], TheRival from the [[VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndSilver second generation]], gets this a good bit too; he's easily the biggest asshole of the rivals in the series (what with Blue basically just being kind of a brat and petty bully, and the others all being friendly). Between stealing from Elm, kicking/punching/shoving you in what is one of the only direct acts of violence from a human in the series, and ''stripping you'' just when you were about to infiltrate a building infested with Team Rocket members, but yet he is one of the most popular and loved rivals in the series. However, unlike some other examples it can be justified if the fanwork depicts him in the later parts of or after the events of the game, as he does get a HeelFaceTurn and majorly [[TookALevelInKindness takes a level in kindness]] by the end. It helps he, in the remakes at least, has one of clearest character arcs and CharacterDevelopment of any rival, that he has a FreudianExcuse in [[spoiler: being [[BigBad Giovanni's]] abandoned son]] with a major InferioritySuperiorityComplex thanks to it (quite possibly the primary reason for his popularity), acts like a {{Tsundere}} and becomes a borderline doting trainer and has nothing but humble respect for you by the end, has much more of a pretty boy look, and for the less emotional side of the fanbase, the fact that he's such a {{Badass}}, that people tend to love him.
** Blue occasionally gets this as well; while he isn't evil, some, especially in the Japanese fanbase, make the mistake that relations between him and [[PlayerCharacter Red]] were perfectly peachy when [[AllThereInTheManual manuals]] [[UsedToBeASweetKid show that to not be the case]], or tone down his {{Jerkass}} qualities despite him being infamous for them. On the western side of things this can get especially bad with people who believe that his Ratticate died on the S.S. Anne (some going as far as to give Red the RonTheDeathEater treatment), along with some people treating him as a bit of a MemeticBadass, probably in large part due to the reputation of his [[Anime/{{Pokemon}} anime]] counterpart.

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** [[{{Jerkass}} [[ChildrenAreCruel Silver]], TheRival from the [[VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndSilver second generation]], gets this a good bit too; he's easily the biggest asshole of the rivals in the series (what with Blue basically just being kind of a brat and petty bully, and the others all being friendly). Between friendly), between stealing from Elm, kicking/punching/shoving you in what is one of the only direct acts of violence from a human in the series, and ''stripping you'' just when you were about to infiltrate a building infested with Team Rocket members, but yet he is one of the most popular and loved rivals in within the series.rivals. However, unlike some other examples it can be justified if the fanwork depicts him in the later parts of or after the events of the game, as he does get a HeelFaceTurn and majorly [[TookALevelInKindness takes a level in kindness]] by the end. It helps that he, in the remakes at least, has one of clearest character arcs and CharacterDevelopment of any rival, that he has a FreudianExcuse in [[spoiler: being [[BigBad Giovanni's]] abandoned son]] with a major InferioritySuperiorityComplex thanks to it (quite possibly the primary reason for his popularity), acts like a {{Tsundere}} and {{Tsundere}}, becomes a borderline doting trainer and has nothing but humble respect for you by the end, has much more of a pretty boy look, and for the less emotional side of the fanbase, the fact that he's such a {{Badass}}, that people tend to love him.
him. It should be said that when he is discussed, even fans of him almost anonymously agree that he was an unrepentant Jerkass HateSink initially.
** Generation I/III Blue occasionally sometimes gets this as well; while he isn't evil, ''evil'' by any means, some, especially in the Japanese fanbase, make the mistake that relations between him and [[PlayerCharacter Red]] were perfectly peachy when [[AllThereInTheManual manuals]] [[UsedToBeASweetKid show that to not be the case]], or tone down his {{Jerkass}} qualities despite him being infamous for them. On the western side of things this can get especially particulary bad with people who believe that his Ratticate died on the S.S. Anne (some going as far as to give Red the RonTheDeathEater treatment), along with some people treating him as a bit of a MemeticBadass, probably in large part due to the reputation of his [[Anime/{{Pokemon}} anime]] counterpart. His more mature OlderAndWiser teenage self in the second generation and their remakes, and a Bishounen look in the latter, do not help matters.
27th Aug '16 4:21:09 AM shonengirl
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** [[{{Jerkass}} Silver]], TheRival from the [[VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndSilver second generation]], gets this a good bit too; he's easily the biggest asshole of the rivals in the series (what with Blue basically just being kind of a brat and petty bully, and the others all being friendly). Between stealing from Elm, kicking/punching/shoving you in what is one of the only direct acts of violence from a human in the series, and ''stripping you'' just when you were about to infiltrate a building infested with Team Rocket members, but yet he is one of the most popular and loved rivals in the series. However, unlike some other examples it can be justified if the fanwork depicts him in the later parts of or after the events of the game, as he does get a HeelFaceTurn and majorly [[TookALevelInKindness takes a level in kindness]] by the end. It helps he has one of clearest character arcs and most dramatic CharacterDevelopment of any rival, that he has a FreudianExcuse in [[spoiler: being [[BigBad Giovanni's]] abandoned son]] with a major InferioritySuperiorityComplex thanks to it (quite possibly the primary reason for his popularity), acts like a Tsundere and becomes a borderline doting trainer by the end, has much more of a pretty boy look in the remakes, and for the less emotional side of the fanbase, the fact that he's such a {{Badass}}, that people tend to love him.

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** [[{{Jerkass}} Silver]], TheRival from the [[VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndSilver second generation]], gets this a good bit too; he's easily the biggest asshole of the rivals in the series (what with Blue basically just being kind of a brat and petty bully, and the others all being friendly). Between stealing from Elm, kicking/punching/shoving you in what is one of the only direct acts of violence from a human in the series, and ''stripping you'' just when you were about to infiltrate a building infested with Team Rocket members, but yet he is one of the most popular and loved rivals in the series. However, unlike some other examples it can be justified if the fanwork depicts him in the later parts of or after the events of the game, as he does get a HeelFaceTurn and majorly [[TookALevelInKindness takes a level in kindness]] by the end. It helps he he, in the remakes at least, has one of clearest character arcs and most dramatic CharacterDevelopment of any rival, that he has a FreudianExcuse in [[spoiler: being [[BigBad Giovanni's]] abandoned son]] with a major InferioritySuperiorityComplex thanks to it (quite possibly the primary reason for his popularity), acts like a Tsundere {{Tsundere}} and becomes a borderline doting trainer and has nothing but humble respect for you by the end, has much more of a pretty boy look in the remakes, look, and for the less emotional side of the fanbase, the fact that he's such a {{Badass}}, that people tend to love him.him.
** Blue occasionally gets this as well; while he isn't evil, some, especially in the Japanese fanbase, make the mistake that relations between him and [[PlayerCharacter Red]] were perfectly peachy when [[AllThereInTheManual manuals]] [[UsedToBeASweetKid show that to not be the case]], or tone down his {{Jerkass}} qualities despite him being infamous for them. On the western side of things this can get especially bad with people who believe that his Ratticate died on the S.S. Anne (some going as far as to give Red the RonTheDeathEater treatment), along with some people treating him as a bit of a MemeticBadass, probably in large part due to the reputation of his [[Anime/{{Pokemon}} anime]] counterpart.
27th Aug '16 4:01:18 AM shonengirl
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** [[{{Jerkass}} Silver]], TheRival from the [[VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndSilver second generation]], gets this a good bit too, mostly since he's easily the biggest asshole of the rivals in the series (what with Blue basically just being kind of a brat, and the others all being friendly). Between stealing from Elm, kicking/punching/shoving you in what is one of the only direct acts of violence from a human in the series, ''stripping you'' just when you were about to infiltrate a building infested with Team Rocket members, and having much more of a pretty boy look in the remakes, he is one of the most popular and loved rivals in the series. However, unlike some other examples it can be justified if the fanwork depicts him in the later parts of or after the events of the game, as he does get a HeelFaceTurn and majorly [[TookALevelInKindness takes a level in kindness]] by the end. It helps he has a FreudianExcuse in [[spoiler: being [[BigBad Giovanni's]] abandoned son]] and a major InferioritySuperiorityComplex thanks to it (quite possibly the primary reason for his popularity), that he acts like a Tsundere and becomes a borderline doting trainer by the end, and for the less emotional side of the fanbase, the fact that he's such a {{Badass}}, that people tend to love him.
** Giovanni himself gets this too, due to him being a rather handsome {{Yakuza}}[=/=][[TheMafia Mafia]] crime boss with nice clothes to boot.

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** [[{{Jerkass}} Silver]], TheRival from the [[VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndSilver second generation]], gets this a good bit too, mostly since too; he's easily the biggest asshole of the rivals in the series (what with Blue basically just being kind of a brat, brat and petty bully, and the others all being friendly). Between stealing from Elm, kicking/punching/shoving you in what is one of the only direct acts of violence from a human in the series, and ''stripping you'' just when you were about to infiltrate a building infested with Team Rocket members, and having much more of a pretty boy look in the remakes, but yet he is one of the most popular and loved rivals in the series. However, unlike some other examples it can be justified if the fanwork depicts him in the later parts of or after the events of the game, as he does get a HeelFaceTurn and majorly [[TookALevelInKindness takes a level in kindness]] by the end. It helps he has one of clearest character arcs and most dramatic CharacterDevelopment of any rival, that he has a FreudianExcuse in [[spoiler: being [[BigBad Giovanni's]] abandoned son]] and with a major InferioritySuperiorityComplex thanks to it (quite possibly the primary reason for his popularity), that he acts like a Tsundere and becomes a borderline doting trainer by the end, has much more of a pretty boy look in the remakes, and for the less emotional side of the fanbase, the fact that he's such a {{Badass}}, that people tend to love him.
** Giovanni himself gets this too, due to him being a rather handsome {{Yakuza}}[=/=][[TheMafia Mafia]] crime boss with nice clothes to boot. In the Japanese fandom this can be seen with the Rocket Executives as well; though they are still acknowledged as evil, they often get turned into more comical versions of themselves like a somewhat more competent version of [[Anime/{{Pokemon}} the Team Rocket Trio]], get their loyalty to Giovanni played as a TearJerker, or both.



** N may not be a villain, but most fans forget that he was explicitly built up as the main antagonist in the first game, and intentionally antagonized the main character into conflict in most of their meetings. The fanbase's utter adoration and ignorance of his bad qualities, especially when Black and White was still new, is probably why Manga/PokemonSpecial decided to make him [[KickTheDog much]] [[LackOfEmpathy less]] [[{{Jerkass}} sympathetic]] and amp up the "Jerkass" in JerkassWoobie. However, unlike many other examples and similarly to Silver above, this isn't without basis in canon due to most of his bad actions purely being the result of him being misguided by Ghetsis and his AmbiguousInnocence, and by the end of his CharacterDevelopment he becomes much more of a straight-up hero.
** [[VideoGame/PokemonXAndY Lysandre]] sometimes gets this as well; it is not uncommon for fans to downplay his actions, even depict him with the main characters, despite the man being ''completely Zubatshit insane''.

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** N may not be a villain, but most fans forget that he was explicitly built up as the main antagonist in the first game, and intentionally antagonized the main character into conflict in most of their meetings. The fanbase's utter adoration and ignorance of his bad qualities, especially when Black and White was still new, is probably why Manga/PokemonSpecial decided to make him [[KickTheDog much]] [[LackOfEmpathy less]] [[{{Jerkass}} sympathetic]] and amp up the "Jerkass" in JerkassWoobie. However, unlike many other examples and similarly to Silver above, this isn't without basis in canon due to most if not all of his bad actions purely being the result of him being misguided by Ghetsis and his AmbiguousInnocence, with it being shown that the man only ever had good intentions, and by the end of his CharacterDevelopment he becomes much more of a straight-up hero.
** [[VideoGame/PokemonXAndY Lysandre]] sometimes gets this as well; it is not uncommon for fans to downplay his actions, even depict him hanging around with the main characters, despite the man being ''completely Zubatshit insane''.
9th Aug '16 11:18:13 PM Anddrix
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** ''VideoGame/MortalKombatX'' newcomer D'Vorah (the only villain to have her own chapter in the Story Mode of ''X'', incidentally) has [[BaseBreaker gotten mixed feelings]] from fans. Some love her for [[spoiler:[[TheChessmaster outwitting everyone]] and being TheMole for Shinnok]], but others despise her for [[spoiler:killing Baraka and Mileena.]] One must not forget, of course, that she's a murderer and a sadist either way.

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** ''VideoGame/MortalKombatX'' newcomer D'Vorah (the only villain to have her own chapter in the Story Mode of ''X'', incidentally) has [[BaseBreaker gotten mixed feelings]] feelings from fans. Some love her for [[spoiler:[[TheChessmaster outwitting everyone]] and being TheMole for Shinnok]], but others despise her for [[spoiler:killing Baraka and Mileena.]] One must not forget, of course, that she's a murderer and a sadist either way.
9th Aug '16 3:49:30 AM shonengirl
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** [[{{Jerkass}} Silver]] gets this a good bit too, mostly since he's easily the biggest asshole of the rivals in the series (what with Blue basically just being kind of a brat, and the others all being friendly). Between stealing from Elm, kicking you in what is one of the only direct acts of violence from a human in the series, ''stripping you'' just when you were about to infiltrate a building infested with Team Rocket members, and having a stock pretty boy look in the remakes (albeit with red hair), he is one of the most popular rivals in the series. However, unlike some other examples it can be justified if the fanwork depicts him in the later parts of or after the events of the game, as he does get a HeelFaceTurn and majorly [[TookALevelInKindness takes a level in kindness]] by the end. It helps he has a FreudianExcuse in [[spoiler: is [[BigBad Giovanni's]] son]], that he acts like a Tsundere and becomes a borderline doting trainer by the end, and for the less emotional side of the fanbase, the fact that he's such a {{Badass}} that people tend to love him.

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** [[{{Jerkass}} Silver]] Silver]], TheRival from the [[VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndSilver second generation]], gets this a good bit too, mostly since he's easily the biggest asshole of the rivals in the series (what with Blue basically just being kind of a brat, and the others all being friendly). Between stealing from Elm, kicking kicking/punching/shoving you in what is one of the only direct acts of violence from a human in the series, ''stripping you'' just when you were about to infiltrate a building infested with Team Rocket members, and having much more of a stock pretty boy look in the remakes (albeit with red hair), remakes, he is one of the most popular and loved rivals in the series. However, unlike some other examples it can be justified if the fanwork depicts him in the later parts of or after the events of the game, as he does get a HeelFaceTurn and majorly [[TookALevelInKindness takes a level in kindness]] by the end. It helps he has a FreudianExcuse in [[spoiler: is being [[BigBad Giovanni's]] son]], abandoned son]] and a major InferioritySuperiorityComplex thanks to it (quite possibly the primary reason for his popularity), that he acts like a Tsundere and becomes a borderline doting trainer by the end, and for the less emotional side of the fanbase, the fact that he's such a {{Badass}} {{Badass}}, that people tend to love him.



** N may not be a villain, but most fans forget that he was explicitly built up as the main antagonist in the first game, and intentionally antagonized the main character into conflict in most of their meetings. The fanbase's utter adoration and ignorance of his bad qualities, especially when Black and White was still new, is probably why Manga/PokemonSpecial decided to make him [[KickTheDog much]] [[LackOfEmpathy less]] [[{{Jerkass}} sympathetic]] and amped up the "Jerkass" in JerkassWoobie. However, unlike many other examples and similarly to Silver above, this isn't without basis in canon due to most of his bad actions purely being the result of him being misguided by Ghetsis and his AmbiguousInnocence, and by the end of his CharacterDevelopment he becomes much more of a straight-up hero.

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** N may not be a villain, but most fans forget that he was explicitly built up as the main antagonist in the first game, and intentionally antagonized the main character into conflict in most of their meetings. The fanbase's utter adoration and ignorance of his bad qualities, especially when Black and White was still new, is probably why Manga/PokemonSpecial decided to make him [[KickTheDog much]] [[LackOfEmpathy less]] [[{{Jerkass}} sympathetic]] and amped amp up the "Jerkass" in JerkassWoobie. However, unlike many other examples and similarly to Silver above, this isn't without basis in canon due to most of his bad actions purely being the result of him being misguided by Ghetsis and his AmbiguousInnocence, and by the end of his CharacterDevelopment he becomes much more of a straight-up hero.
** [[VideoGame/PokemonXAndY Lysandre]] sometimes gets this as well; it is not uncommon for fans to downplay his actions, even depict him with the main characters, despite the man being ''completely Zubatshit insane''.
9th Aug '16 3:36:35 AM shonengirl
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** [[{{Jerkass}} Silver]] gets this a good bit too, mostly since he's easily the biggest asshole of the rivals in the series (what with Blue basically just being kind of a brat, and the others all being friendly). Between stealing from Elm, kicking you in what is one of the only direct acts of violence from a human in the series, ''stripping you'', and having a stock pretty boy look (albeit with red hair), he's such a {{Badass}} that people tend to love him. Helps that he does get a HeelFaceTurn, and [[spoiler: is [[BigBad Giovanni's]] son.]]

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** [[{{Jerkass}} Silver]] gets this a good bit too, mostly since he's easily the biggest asshole of the rivals in the series (what with Blue basically just being kind of a brat, and the others all being friendly). Between stealing from Elm, kicking you in what is one of the only direct acts of violence from a human in the series, ''stripping you'', you'' just when you were about to infiltrate a building infested with Team Rocket members, and having a stock pretty boy look in the remakes (albeit with red hair), he is one of the most popular rivals in the series. However, unlike some other examples it can be justified if the fanwork depicts him in the later parts of or after the events of the game, as he does get a HeelFaceTurn and majorly [[TookALevelInKindness takes a level in kindness]] by the end. It helps he has a FreudianExcuse in [[spoiler: is [[BigBad Giovanni's]] son]], that he acts like a Tsundere and becomes a borderline doting trainer by the end, and for the less emotional side of the fanbase, the fact that he's such a {{Badass}} that people tend to love him. Helps that he does get a HeelFaceTurn, and [[spoiler: is [[BigBad Giovanni's]] son.]]him.



** N may not be a villain, but most fans forget that he was explicitly built up as the main antagonist in the first game, and intentionally antagonized the main character into conflict in most of their meetings. The fanbase's utter adoration and ignorance of his bad qualities is probably why Manga/PokemonSpecial decided to make him [[KickTheDog much]] [[LackOfEmpathy less]] [[{{Jerkass}} sympathetic]].

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** N may not be a villain, but most fans forget that he was explicitly built up as the main antagonist in the first game, and intentionally antagonized the main character into conflict in most of their meetings. The fanbase's utter adoration and ignorance of his bad qualities qualities, especially when Black and White was still new, is probably why Manga/PokemonSpecial decided to make him [[KickTheDog much]] [[LackOfEmpathy less]] [[{{Jerkass}} sympathetic]].sympathetic]] and amped up the "Jerkass" in JerkassWoobie. However, unlike many other examples and similarly to Silver above, this isn't without basis in canon due to most of his bad actions purely being the result of him being misguided by Ghetsis and his AmbiguousInnocence, and by the end of his CharacterDevelopment he becomes much more of a straight-up hero.
2nd Aug '16 10:39:46 PM BlackSunNocturne
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* Diana from ''VideoGame/LeagueOfLegends'' is a powerful and not too overpowered champion, seeing a lot of uses in the game. She's an inquisitive lady of the Solari tribe that was branded heretic and nearly executed by the Solari elders for finding out the existence of the Lunari tribe that was massacred and removed from history by the Solari, and just wanted equality for both sides. After awakening her moon power by the trauma and then slaughtering the elders and executors in self-defense, in madness, she decided that she will enforce the will of the Moon by force, and make first the rest of the Solari, then the world, bow to the Moon or else she will cut their heads off without any tinge of mercy. As far as the fans are concerned, Diana is the essential JerkassWoobie who's NotEvilJustMisunderstood that deserves support for trying to let the truth be revealed to the world (instead of an aggressive invader that threatens the world), and the Solari elders are all {{Asshole Victim}}s that deserves [[KickTheSonOfABitch being slaughtered for their fascism and cowardice]], and occasionally, their champion and Diana's rival, Leona, is painted as a tool of fascism and bigotry and conveniently forgetting that the same elders saved Leona from certain execution from her home tribe, and Leona had nothing but pure intentions of 'protecting everyone'.

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* From ''VideoGame/LeagueOfLegends'':
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Diana from ''VideoGame/LeagueOfLegends'' is a powerful and not too overpowered champion, seeing a lot of uses in the game. She's an inquisitive lady of the Solari tribe that was branded heretic and nearly executed by the Solari elders for finding out the existence of the Lunari tribe that was massacred and removed from history by the Solari, and just wanted equality for both sides. After awakening her moon power by the trauma and then slaughtering the elders and executors in self-defense, in madness, she decided that she will enforce the will of the Moon by force, and make first the rest of the Solari, then the world, bow to the Moon or else she will cut their heads off without any tinge of mercy. As far as the fans are concerned, Diana is the essential JerkassWoobie who's NotEvilJustMisunderstood that deserves support for trying to let the truth be revealed to the world (instead of an aggressive invader that threatens the world), and the Solari elders are all {{Asshole Victim}}s that deserves [[KickTheSonOfABitch being slaughtered for their fascism and cowardice]], and occasionally, their champion and Diana's rival, Leona, is painted as a tool of fascism and bigotry and conveniently forgetting that the same elders saved Leona from certain execution from her home tribe, and Leona had nothing but pure intentions of 'protecting everyone'. However, Riot seemed to agree on this somehow, as in the newer lore, Diana is portrayed in a much more sympathetic light and she's less murderous as well, instead being disgusted at the massacre she committed. In turn, they made the Solari even more fascistic and Leona taking levels of KnightTemplar-ism by making her indoctrination clearer, though at the end of Leona's lore, she seemed to be looking for something of a reconciliation, but they really want to push on the angle of 'The Solari sect are all rigid, old fashioned hypocritical assholes'.
** As per AlternativeCharacterInterpretation, Viktor also enjoys a lot of 'misaimed' fan base, that his fans makes light of his possible atrocities and bashed Jayce even after his possible MartyStu credentials decreased a lot (see AuthorsSavingThrow), in spite of his goal forcing everyone to become augmented with Hextech machinery. Fans of Viktor and Diana often describe those two as "Glorious" and encourages other people to feel their glory.
** Many of the Void champions also receive this treatment, most notably Vel'Koz and Kog'Maw. Vel'Koz's cold, studious "examination" of anything he runs across is turned into childlike curiosity and wonder, while Kog'Maw is more likely to be portrayed as a bumbling puppy than the near-mindless, bottomless appetite which he is.
** Dr. Mundo is a psychotic monster who enjoys pain (whether his own or others') and is outright stated to be a serial killer and SelfMadeOrphan, but since he has a funny, endearing way of speaking people forget all about this and portray him as a [[BigFun big lovable oaf]]. Even Riot doesn't really take him seriously anymore, preferring his [[PointyHairedBoss Corporate Mundo]] style whenever he's mentioned.
** Draven is another Noxian example. Ask a player about Draven, and most will immediately respond, "Not Draven, Draaaaven." Few will mention that he rose to fame in Noxus as an ''executioner'', giving condemned prisoners a chance to flee (and a [[HopeSpot false sense of hope]]) before mercilessly cutting them down with various trick throws with his throwing axes.
** And then there's Katarina. Yes, she is an efficient killer and [[WolverinePublicity pseudo-mascot for the game]]. Yes, she is a proud and badass lady, not to mention sexy. What people tend to forget is that she's not too discriminating about whom she kills or why, doing it apparently [[BecauseImGoodAtIt just for sport]], and [[CardCarryingVillain revels in her ability to shed blood and get away clean.]] Even if she and Talon are ALighterShadeOfBlack compared to Swain, Vladimir, and [=LeBlanc=], she's still loyal to Noxus and thinks that her city-state deserves to rule anyone weak enough to be conquered. But for some fans, she'll always be just a sexy, badass woman to drool over -- or an ''extremely'' {{Tsundere}} match for [[FoeYay Garen]] -- not a fighter/assassin who lives for the kill and takes real joy in shedding blood.
** That said, Noxus itself is getting this treatment, especially as Riot has been hinting that the rivalry with Demacia is more along the lines of GreyAndGrayMorality. Demacia is less TheParagon of 'shining justice' as its flaws have started to show, while Noxus' [[TheSocialDarwinist "the strong eat the weak" credo]] has produced characters across the whole swath of the moral spectrum, not just a horde of {{Card Carrying Villain}}s. This makes Katarina seem even more sympathetic, since she is on the 'somewhat more good' side of the scale. Even Draven can draw this card, as there is an even chance that anyone he just executed was [[KickTheSonOfABitch an utter scumbag who really deserved it.]]
** While not as bad as others, Rumble is usually by default portrayed as a xenophobic, Yordle-supremacist jerk, though he has [[FreudianExcuse a history of bullying victim to excuse that.]] Fans like to latch onto that excuse better and gave their wishes for him to end up with Tristana either way and make Rumble seem more pitiful and sympathetic, forgetting or toning down his supremacist attitude, because... well because his rival for that is [[TheScrappy the universally hated]] [[ButtMonkey Teemo]], who would usually more likely be the genuine force of good and a more sociable, pleasant Yordle.
** Perhaps the most egregious example is [[MalevolentMaskedMan Jhin]], whom the majority of the fanbase tend to conveniently forget is a [[SoftSpokenSadist deranged]], [[AxCrazy psychopathic]] [[SerialKiller mass murderer.]] He even has some fangirls out-of-universe despite [[TheFaceless his face never being revealed.]]
27th Jul '16 10:01:03 AM Morgenthaler
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*** In fact, this is deliberately invoked in-game. As Shepard will learn in the subsequent game that [[spoiler: the Illusive Man made sure Shepard's crew consisted of the people who knew the least about Cerberus' true agenda and who's attitudes were most in line with Shepard's]] which makes player sympathy for Cerberus almost inevitable. Not only that, two of Shepard's [[ProperlyParanoid squadmates]] [[GenreSavvy saw this coming]], but their point was lost due to [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy Cerberus]] invoking the [[RonTheDeathEater opposite trope]] on them.

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*** In fact, this is deliberately invoked in-game. As Shepard will learn in the subsequent game that [[spoiler: the Illusive Man made sure Shepard's crew consisted of the people who knew the least about Cerberus' true agenda and who's attitudes were most in line with Shepard's]] which makes player sympathy for Cerberus almost inevitable. Not only that, two of Shepard's [[ProperlyParanoid squadmates]] [[GenreSavvy saw this coming]], coming, but their point was lost due to [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy Cerberus]] Cerberus invoking the [[RonTheDeathEater opposite trope]] on them.
15th Jul '16 2:20:45 AM ACW
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** [[spoiler: Chara/The Fallen Child, a young kid who ran away from their village, [[RiddleForTheAges may or may not be this]], as the game is very ambiguous about how they were like in their past life. If the interpretation that they are [[CompleteMonster rotten to the core]] is canon, then all portrayals of Narrator Chara and other positive representations of them fall into this.]]

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** [[spoiler: Chara/The Fallen Child, a young kid who ran away from their village, [[RiddleForTheAges may or may not be this]], as the game is very ambiguous about how they were like in their past life. If the interpretation that they are [[CompleteMonster rotten to the core]] core is canon, then all portrayals of Narrator Chara and other positive representations of them fall into this.]]
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