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27th Apr '16 11:46:38 PM aye_amber
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22nd Dec '15 3:49:14 PM RegalStar
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* This is Franziska von Karma's ''character'' in the ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' series. She is the prosecutor that whips anyone that irritates her even slightly. This includes lawyers, witnesses, the judge, and the police. The most someone seems to do about it is ask her to stop, to which her reply is another whip to the head.
1st Dec '15 2:36:08 PM catmuto
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* ''VideoGame/TalesOfXillia2'' has a [[HotSpringsEpisode Hot Spring scene]] that took a leaf from the abovementioned ''Persona'' games, with the girls locking the guys inside Teepo, while they are enjoying the baths, with the guys' location being too hot, cramped and Teepo's liquid causing their towels to disintergrate. In the Japanese version, the girls did this because the men were going to peep on them, making this more a case of [[DistroportionateRetribution simple punishment]]. The localized English version removed this aspect and changed it to the girls doing this for no good reason. It's PlayedForLaughs, too.

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* ''VideoGame/TalesOfXillia2'' has a [[HotSpringsEpisode Hot Spring scene]] that took a leaf from the abovementioned ''Persona'' games, with the girls locking the guys inside Teepo, while they are enjoying the baths, with the guys' location being too hot, cramped and Teepo's liquid causing their towels to disintergrate. In the Japanese version, the girls did this because the men were going to peep on them, making this more a case of [[DistroportionateRetribution [[DisproportionateRetribution simple punishment]]. The localized English version removed this aspect and changed it to the girls doing this for no good reason. It's PlayedForLaughs, too.
1st Dec '15 2:35:38 PM catmuto
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* ''VideoGame/TalesOfXillia2'' has a [[HotSpringsEpisode Hot Spring scene]] that took a leaf from the abovementioned ''Persona'' games, with the girls locking the guys inside Teepo, while they are enjoying the baths, with the guys' location being too hot, cramped and Teepo's liquid causing their towels to disintergrate. In the Japanese version, the girls did this because the men were going to peep on them, making this more a case of [[DistroportionateRetribution simple punishment]]. The localized English version removed this aspect and changed it to the girls doing this for no good reason. It's PlayedForLaughs, too.
1st Dec '15 10:44:38 AM SomeoneElse17
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** One of the criticisms raised at the Prince Chrom x Female Avatar pairing is rooted in this trope. In one of their supports, in a reversal of the AccidentalPervert trope, she walks in on him bathing... and starts throwing stuff at ''him'' for ''her'' own mistake. This is ''quite'' far from her [[NiceGirl usual attitude]], but Avatar is clearly shown to be in the wrong with her profuse apologizing afterwards.

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** One of the criticisms raised at the Prince Chrom x Female Avatar pairing is rooted in this trope. In one of their supports, in a reversal of the AccidentalPervert trope, she walks in on him bathing... and starts throwing stuff at ''him'' for ''her'' own mistake. This Fortunately, this is ''quite'' far from her [[NiceGirl usual attitude]], but Avatar and she is clearly shown to be in the wrong with her profuse apologizing afterwards.



** It's [[NoodleIncident never shown on screen]], but several supports mention local HandsomeLech Inigo getting assaulted for flirting with various women. Similarly, If CuteMonsterGirl Nah's beau is Inigo, her behavior goes straight into this and she even threatens to transform into a dragon and eat him alive if he cheats on her (or comments on [[OlderThanTheyLook how young she looks]]) in their S support. And for that matter, the entirety of their S support is her creepily strong-arming him into marrying her when he clearly has no interest whatsoever in doing so, and has clearly stated before that he isn't even ''attracted'' to her. Like in the case of Avatar, Nah normally does not act like this ''at all''.

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** It's [[NoodleIncident never shown on screen]], but several supports mention local HandsomeLech Inigo getting assaulted for flirting with various women. Similarly, If CuteMonsterGirl Nah's beau is Inigo, her behavior goes straight into this and she even threatens to transform into a dragon and eat him alive if he cheats on her (or comments on [[OlderThanTheyLook how young she looks]]) in their S support. And for that matter, the entirety of their S support is her creepily strong-arming him into marrying her when he clearly has no interest whatsoever in doing so, and has clearly stated before that he isn't even ''attracted'' to her. Like in the case of Avatar, Nah normally does not act like this ''at all''. ''Unlike'' Avatar, this is completely played for laughs and the only "justification" offered is Inigo's personality and general ButtMonkey status.
22nd Sep '15 8:18:23 AM HighCrate
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*** To be fair, this time it doesn't seem like it was suppose to be funny judging by the guys annoyance after finding out the girls' mistake.
22nd Sep '15 3:50:08 AM steelhawk98
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*** To be fair, this time it doesn't seem like it was suppose to be funny judging by the guys annoyance after finding out the girls' mistake.
17th Sep '15 5:04:30 PM HighCrate
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* The game ''[[http://www.heybabygame.com/info.php Hey Baby]]'' is a complex case (the targets are not innocent and the setting isn't normalising the violence in the way that many entries in this list are), but the idea that violent reactions are more acceptable if they're aimed by women at men does appear to be at work.
** What makes it complex, though still valid, is that the men are portrayed as "deserving it", suggesting that violence against men is more acceptable because men are assholes who deserve brutality.
* ''VideoGame/{{Tekken}} 3'''s ending for Mokujin has his wife gives him a MegatonPunch both in the beginning and the end of the scene.

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* The game ''[[http://www.heybabygame.com/info.php Hey Baby]]'' is a complex case (the targets are not innocent and the setting isn't normalising normalizing the violence in the way that many entries in this list are), but the idea that violent reactions are more acceptable if they're aimed by women at men does appear to be at work.
** What makes it complex, though still valid, is that
work. {{Asshole Victim}}s or not, it's hard to imagine men brutalizing women being treated the men are portrayed as "deserving it", suggesting that violence against men is more acceptable because men are assholes who deserve brutality.
same way.
* ''VideoGame/{{Tekken}} 3'''s ''VideoGame/{{Tekken}}'':
** The third game's
ending for Mokujin has his wife gives him a MegatonPunch both in the beginning and the end of the scene.



** While Chie beats up Yosuke only twice in the video game (she kicks him in the crotch for breaking her "Trial of the Dragon" DVD and throwing a rope to him when he and the Protagonist return from the TV world with their Personas), she does it a lot more in [[Anime/Persona4TheAnimation the anime]], even over the smallest insults.
* ''{{Catherine}}'' features a scene wherein [[spoiler: Catherine]] seriously beats up Vincent and all his friends laugh it off and ignore it. [[spoiler: It's actually subverted once it's revealed that they can't see Catherine and as far as they knew Vincent was alone and making weird noises.]]

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** While Chie beats up Yosuke only "only" twice in the video game (she kicks him in the crotch for breaking her "Trial of the Dragon" DVD and throwing a rope to him when he and the Protagonist return from the TV world with their Personas), she does it a lot more in [[Anime/Persona4TheAnimation the anime]], even over the smallest insults.
* ''{{Catherine}}'' ''{{Catherine}}'':
** The game
features a scene wherein [[spoiler: Catherine]] seriously beats up Vincent and all his friends laugh it off and ignore it. [[spoiler: It's actually subverted once it's revealed that they can't see Catherine and as far as they knew Vincent was alone and making weird noises.]]



* Played straight with Rita in ''VideoGame/TalesOfVesperia'', who will repeatedly hit Raven or Karol. This is usually just treated as a quirk of her personality, rather than a serious flaw. While Raven arguably deserves it for some of his more lecherous comments, sometimes she hits him/uses magic on him just because he's annoying her, and her abuse of Karol is almost completely unprovoked.
** Subverted in ''VideoGame/TalesOfXillia'', when Jude tells Milla about times when he was constantly getting beaten up by his ChildhoodFriend Leia. Despite trying to laugh it off, however, Milla acknowledges it as bullying and even calls Leia out on it when they meet later in the game. DoubleSubverted later, when Milla [[HypocriticalHumor attacks Jude with fireballs]]. Notably, all of these events happen within skits (for whatever that's worth).

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* Played straight with Rita in ''VideoGame/TalesOfVesperia'', who will repeatedly hit Raven or Karol. This is usually just treated as a quirk of her personality, rather than a serious flaw. While Raven arguably deserves it for some of his more lecherous comments, sometimes Sometimes she hits him/uses Raven / uses magic on him just because he's annoying her, and her abuse of Karol is almost completely unprovoked.
** * Subverted in ''VideoGame/TalesOfXillia'', when Jude tells Milla about times when he was constantly getting beaten up by his ChildhoodFriend Leia. Despite trying to laugh it off, however, Milla acknowledges it as bullying and even calls Leia out on it when they meet later in the game. DoubleSubverted later, when Milla [[HypocriticalHumor attacks Jude with fireballs]]. Notably, all of these events happen within skits (for whatever that's worth).



* This is Franziska von Karma's ''character'' in the ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' series. She is the prosecutor that whips anyone that irritates her even slightly. This includes lawyers, witnesses, the judge, and the police. The most someone seems to do about it is ask her to stop, to which her reply is another whip to the head. There is also some possible UnfortunateImplications if you compare her to the other (male) prosecutors. They seem to either have the respect of the police and judge through their talents (Edgeworth and Klavier) or they intimidate through sheer presence (Manfred, and to a lesser extent, Godot). Franziska comes off as having neither, and instead works through threatening people with abuse, and she herself is quick to back off whenever it looks like someone won't put up with her antics (see Godot in the third game, who is one of the few male characters to not be whipped). Although this could be less because she's female and more because she is only eighteen years old, less mature than she would like to believe, [[spoiler:and the ending of ''Justice For All'' reveals that she is quite insecure and feels overwhelmed by other people's expectations of her]]. Strangely, she ''does'' actually whip quite a few women in her first appearance in the second game, but she never does in any of the sequels (except for [[spoiler:Lotta Hart when she reappears in ''Investigations 2'']]). While in the third game, it could be blamed on the lack of options, in ''[[VisualNovel/AceAttorneyInvestigationsMilesEdgeworth Investigations,]]'' several women openly mock or do something disrespectful to her, and she will either do nothing, or whip a male character in the area anyway. A RunningGag in the game is that Edgeworth will always question this phenomena, but this only makes her sudden gender bias even more obvious.

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* This is Franziska von Karma's ''character'' in the ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' series. She is the prosecutor that whips anyone that irritates her even slightly. This includes lawyers, witnesses, the judge, and the police. The most someone seems to do about it is ask her to stop, to which her reply is another whip to the head. There is also some possible UnfortunateImplications if you compare her to the other (male) prosecutors. They seem to either have the respect of the police and judge through their talents (Edgeworth and Klavier) or they intimidate through sheer presence (Manfred, and to a lesser extent, Godot). Franziska comes off as having neither, and instead works through threatening people with abuse, and she herself is quick to back off whenever it looks like someone won't put up with her antics (see Godot in the third game, who is one of the few male characters to not be whipped). Although this could be less because she's female and more because she is only eighteen years old, less mature than she would like to believe, [[spoiler:and the ending of ''Justice For All'' reveals that she is quite insecure and feels overwhelmed by other people's expectations of her]]. Strangely, she ''does'' actually whip quite a few women in her first appearance in the second game, but she never does in any of the sequels (except for [[spoiler:Lotta Hart when she reappears in ''Investigations 2'']]). While in the third game, it could be blamed on the lack of options, in ''[[VisualNovel/AceAttorneyInvestigationsMilesEdgeworth Investigations,]]'' several women openly mock or do something disrespectful to her, and she will either do nothing, or whip a male character in the area anyway. A RunningGag in the game is that Edgeworth will always question this phenomena, but this only makes her sudden gender bias even more obvious.



* In ''VideoGame/ArTonelico2'', the main character Croix has his manhood basically held in a vice by the women in the party (minus one you can't marry and one you can). [[spoiler: Luca]] admits to Croix that she's been playing him in order to find [[spoiler: her lost sibling]] and doesn't have any interest in him, which results in Croix getting angry and breaking their relationship, however shortly afterwards you can choose to side with either Luca or Cloche, and siding with [[spoiler: Luca]] will have her basically not admitting she's wrong, and just asking Croix to start over with her like nothing happened and pretending to be all sweet all over again. [[spoiler: This is especially horrendous when you take into account that Croix and Luca have been together as children, so Luca basically played the guy for almost a decade.]] Had Croix done that, it would have had a totally different tone.

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* In ''VideoGame/ArTonelico2'', the ''VideoGame/ArTonelico2'':
** The
main character Croix has his manhood basically held in a vice by the women in the party (minus one you can't marry and one you can). [[spoiler: Luca]] admits to Croix that she's been playing him in order to find [[spoiler: her lost sibling]] and doesn't have any interest in him, which results in Croix getting angry and breaking their relationship, however shortly afterwards you can choose to side with either Luca or Cloche, and siding with [[spoiler: Luca]] will have her basically not admitting she's wrong, and just asking Croix to start over with her like nothing happened and pretending to be all sweet all over again. [[spoiler: This is especially horrendous when you take into account that Croix and Luca have been together as children, so Luca basically played the guy for almost a decade.]] Had Croix done that, it would have had a totally different tone.



*** Admittedly, most of the cosmosphere dives are pretty much Croix being abused by the girls in some way or being totally ignored. Then again, it is the subconscious mind, and it would be hard not to control or show such violence in the deep recesses of the brain.



*** A smaller version appears with Lon'qu's supports with the Female Avatar. She constantly throws things at him and acts completely unlike her normal self, harassing him across all of them, though admittedly the things she's throwing are [[ImprobableWeaponUser figs]], and none of them actually manage to hit him because he's such a skilled dodger, and she's simply trying to land a single hit on him. Turns out it was so Lon'qu wouldn't suffer from his gynophobia around her, since he had to deal with her behaviour instead of focusing on his fear of women.

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*** ** A smaller version appears with Lon'qu's supports with the Female Avatar. She constantly throws things at him and acts completely unlike her normal self, harassing him across all of them, though admittedly the things she's throwing are [[ImprobableWeaponUser figs]], and none of them actually manage to hit him because he's such a skilled dodger, and she's simply trying to land a single hit on him. Turns out it was so Lon'qu wouldn't suffer from his gynophobia around her, since he had to deal with her behaviour instead of focusing on his fear of women.
15th Aug '15 12:24:38 PM rjd1922
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* This is Franziska von Karma's ''character'' in the ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' series. She is the prosecutor that whips anyone that irritates her even slightly. This includes lawyers, witnesses, the judge, and the police. The most someone seems to do about it is ask her to stop, to which her reply is another whip to the head. There is also some possible UnfortunateImplications if you compare her to the other (male) prosecutors. They seem to either have the respect of the police and judge through their talents (Edgeworth and Klavier) or they intimidate through sheer presence (Manfred, and to a lesser extent, Godot). Franziska comes off as having neither, and instead works through threatening people with abuse, and she herself is quick to back off whenever it looks like someone won't put up with her antics (see Godot in the third game, who is one of the few male characters to not be whipped). Although this could be less because she'said female and more because she is only eighteen years old, less mature than she would like to believe, [[spoiler:and the ending of ''Justice For All'' reveals that she is quite insecure and feels overwhelmed by other people's expectations of her]]. Strangely, she ''does'' actually whip quite a few women in her first appearance in the second game, but she never does in any of the sequels (except for [[spoiler:Lotta Hart when she reappears in ''Investigations 2'']]). While in the third game, it could be blamed on the lack of options, in ''[[VisualNovel/AceAttorneyInvestigationsMilesEdgeworth Investigations,]]'' several women openly mock or do something disrespectful to her, and she will either do nothing, or whip a male character in the area anyway. A RunningGag in the game is that Edgeworth will always question this phenomena, but this only makes her sudden gender bias even more obvious.

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* This is Franziska von Karma's ''character'' in the ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' series. She is the prosecutor that whips anyone that irritates her even slightly. This includes lawyers, witnesses, the judge, and the police. The most someone seems to do about it is ask her to stop, to which her reply is another whip to the head. There is also some possible UnfortunateImplications if you compare her to the other (male) prosecutors. They seem to either have the respect of the police and judge through their talents (Edgeworth and Klavier) or they intimidate through sheer presence (Manfred, and to a lesser extent, Godot). Franziska comes off as having neither, and instead works through threatening people with abuse, and she herself is quick to back off whenever it looks like someone won't put up with her antics (see Godot in the third game, who is one of the few male characters to not be whipped). Although this could be less because she'said she's female and more because she is only eighteen years old, less mature than she would like to believe, [[spoiler:and the ending of ''Justice For All'' reveals that she is quite insecure and feels overwhelmed by other people's expectations of her]]. Strangely, she ''does'' actually whip quite a few women in her first appearance in the second game, but she never does in any of the sequels (except for [[spoiler:Lotta Hart when she reappears in ''Investigations 2'']]). While in the third game, it could be blamed on the lack of options, in ''[[VisualNovel/AceAttorneyInvestigationsMilesEdgeworth Investigations,]]'' several women openly mock or do something disrespectful to her, and she will either do nothing, or whip a male character in the area anyway. A RunningGag in the game is that Edgeworth will always question this phenomena, but this only makes her sudden gender bias even more obvious.
15th Aug '15 12:23:53 PM rjd1922
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* This is Franziska von Karma's ''character'' in the ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' series. She is the prosecutor that whips anyone that irritates her even slightly. This includes lawyers, witnesses, the judge, and the police. The most someone seems to do about it is ask her to stop, to which her reply is another whip to the head. There is also some possible UnfortunateImplications if you compare her to the other (male) prosecutors. They seem to either have the respect of the police and judge through their talents (Edgeworth and Klavier) or they intimidate through sheer presence (Manfred, and to a lesser extent, Godot). Franziska comes off as having neither, and instead works through threatening people with abuse, and she herself is quick to back off whenever it looks like someone won't put up with her antics (see Godot in the third game, who is one of the few male characters to not be whipped). Strangely, she ''does'' actually whip quite a few women in her first appearance in the second game, but she never does in any of the sequels. While in the third game, it could be blamed on the lack of options, in ''[[VisualNovel/AceAttorneyInvestigationsMilesEdgeworth Investigations,]]'' several women openly mock or do something disrespectful to her, and she will either do nothing, or whip a male character in the area anyway. A RunningGag in the game is that Edgeworth will always question this phenomena, but this only makes her sudden gender bias even more obvious.
* In ''ProfessorLaytonVsAceAttorney'', [[CowardlyLion poor Cecil]] is always being abused, insulted and attacked by his sister Petal and it is never seen as something wrong or discussed. Also, Foxy seems quite accostumed at treating her fellow knights in a very...kinky way.

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* This is Franziska von Karma's ''character'' in the ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' series. She is the prosecutor that whips anyone that irritates her even slightly. This includes lawyers, witnesses, the judge, and the police. The most someone seems to do about it is ask her to stop, to which her reply is another whip to the head. There is also some possible UnfortunateImplications if you compare her to the other (male) prosecutors. They seem to either have the respect of the police and judge through their talents (Edgeworth and Klavier) or they intimidate through sheer presence (Manfred, and to a lesser extent, Godot). Franziska comes off as having neither, and instead works through threatening people with abuse, and she herself is quick to back off whenever it looks like someone won't put up with her antics (see Godot in the third game, who is one of the few male characters to not be whipped). Although this could be less because she'said female and more because she is only eighteen years old, less mature than she would like to believe, [[spoiler:and the ending of ''Justice For All'' reveals that she is quite insecure and feels overwhelmed by other people's expectations of her]]. Strangely, she ''does'' actually whip quite a few women in her first appearance in the second game, but she never does in any of the sequels.sequels (except for [[spoiler:Lotta Hart when she reappears in ''Investigations 2'']]). While in the third game, it could be blamed on the lack of options, in ''[[VisualNovel/AceAttorneyInvestigationsMilesEdgeworth Investigations,]]'' several women openly mock or do something disrespectful to her, and she will either do nothing, or whip a male character in the area anyway. A RunningGag in the game is that Edgeworth will always question this phenomena, but this only makes her sudden gender bias even more obvious.
* In ''ProfessorLaytonVsAceAttorney'', ''VideoGame/ProfessorLaytonVsAceAttorney'', [[CowardlyLion poor Cecil]] is always being abused, insulted and attacked by his sister Petal and it is never seen as something wrong or discussed. Also, Foxy seems quite accostumed at treating her fellow knights in a very...kinky way.
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