History DorkAge / WesternAnimation

3rd Jan '18 7:23:49 AM cwickham
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** After Mike Scully's tenure as showrunner ended, the quality of the show improved - thus, the first Dork Age ended. From Seasons 13 to ''The Simpsons Movie'', many fans who hadn't yet stopped watching noted that the writing and humor became more consistantly enjoyable, with the good episodes outnumbering the bad ones again. Also, the promise of a theatrical Simpsons film in 2007 allowed older, golden-age fans to become interested in the show again, giving writers good reason to try extra-hard to create solid new episodes. However, up to and after TheMovie's DVD release (Season 19 onwards), the second Dork Age of the show began. This was because the hype of the first theatrical Simpsons film had been lost, giving viewers little reason to continue watching the show. This Dork Age has continued up until the present.

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** After Mike Scully's tenure as showrunner ended, ended and he was replaced by Al Jean, one of the show's original writers, the quality of the show improved - thus, the first Dork Age ended. From Seasons 13 to ''The Simpsons Movie'', many fans who hadn't yet stopped watching noted that the writing and humor became more consistantly enjoyable, with the good episodes outnumbering the bad ones again. Also, the promise of a theatrical Simpsons film in 2007 allowed older, golden-age fans to become interested in the show again, giving writers good reason to try extra-hard to create solid new episodes. However, up to and after TheMovie's DVD release (Season 19 onwards), the second Dork Age of the show began. This was because the hype of the first theatrical Simpsons film had been lost, giving viewers little reason to continue watching the show. This Dork Age has continued up until the present.
19th Nov '17 10:38:52 PM Vir
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* It's safe to say that Creator/DCComics' [[WesternAnimation/DCComicsAnimated animation unit]] has been experiencing this for their TV stuff for CN (averted for [[WesternAnimation/DCUniverseAnimatedOriginalMovies their DTV line of animated films]] and their CW Seed animated shows for the ''Franchise/{{Arrowverse}}'') when ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice'' and ''WesternAnimation/GreenLanternTheAnimatedSeries'' got cancelled by Creator/CartoonNetwork, which marked the downfall of the DC Nation block. While ''WesternAnimated/BewareTheBatman'' got a good reception from critics and fans, it was ScrewedByTheNetwork and eventually aired its remaining episodes on Creator/AdultSwim, it's widely agreed that ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitansGo'' is responsible for this happening in addition to CN's overexposure of the show and to the point that ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueAction'' (which has gotten a better response than ''Go!'') was largely ignored by CN. That being said, the unit has regained some goodwill when in 2016, it was confirmed that ''Young Justice'' would be {{Uncancelled}} for a new season in 2018 but it remains to be seen if this will end the current dork age or not.

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* It's safe to say that Creator/DCComics' [[WesternAnimation/DCComicsAnimated animation unit]] has been experiencing this for their TV stuff for CN (averted for [[WesternAnimation/DCUniverseAnimatedOriginalMovies their DTV line of animated films]] and their CW Seed animated shows for the ''Franchise/{{Arrowverse}}'') when ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice'' and ''WesternAnimation/GreenLanternTheAnimatedSeries'' got cancelled by Creator/CartoonNetwork, which marked the downfall of the DC Nation block. While ''WesternAnimated/BewareTheBatman'' got a good reception from critics and fans, it was ScrewedByTheNetwork and eventually aired its remaining episodes on Creator/AdultSwim, it's widely agreed that ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitansGo'' is responsible for this happening in addition to CN's overexposure of the show and to the point that ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueAction'' (which has gotten a better response than ''Go!'') was largely ignored by CN. That being said, the unit has regained some goodwill when in 2016, it was confirmed that ''Young Justice'' would be {{Uncancelled}} UnCanceled for a new season in 2018 but it remains to be seen if this will end the current dork age or not.
7th Nov '17 6:18:10 AM KagSwirby
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* ''WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants'' fell into one of these after the first movie's release in 2004. After the creator Steven Hillenburg left, fans began to notice that episodes were becoming either bland and unfunny or violent and mean-spirited. Characters also became [[{{Flanderization}} flanderized]] to unbelievably high levels, and when they weren't acting like parodies of themselves, they were being tortured miserably by the world around them. Alongside the overabundance of over-hyped specials, it could easily coincide with Nickelodeon's dork age. While Season 4 didn't have much of this, seasons 5-7 are usually reviled among the fanbase for these reasons. Season 8 was a slight improvment and season 9 had a lot of episodes that were really liked by the [=SpongeBob=] fanbase, but the Dork Age had officialy ended in the eyes of many with the second [=SpongeBob=] movie, ''[[WesternAnimation/TheSpongeBobMovieSpongeOutOfWater Sponge out of Water]]'', when Steven Hillenburg returned to the helm of the series in general.

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* ''WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants'' fell into one of these after the first movie's release in 2004. After the creator Steven Stephen Hillenburg left, fans began to notice that episodes were becoming either bland and unfunny or violent and mean-spirited. Characters also became [[{{Flanderization}} flanderized]] to unbelievably high levels, and when they weren't acting like parodies of themselves, they were being tortured miserably by the world around them. Alongside the overabundance of over-hyped specials, it could easily coincide with Nickelodeon's dork age. While Season 4 didn't have much of this, seasons 5-7 are usually reviled among the fanbase for these reasons. Season 8 was a slight improvment and season 9 had a lot of episodes that were really liked by the [=SpongeBob=] fanbase, but the Dork Age had officialy ended in the eyes of many with the second [=SpongeBob=] movie, ''[[WesternAnimation/TheSpongeBobMovieSpongeOutOfWater Sponge out of Water]]'', when Steven Stephen Hillenburg returned to the helm of the series in general.
30th Oct '17 9:36:01 PM Vir
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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Ultimate Spider-Man}}'' is considered this to the ''Franchise/SpiderMan'' franchise on the animated plain this series bears no similarities to [[ComicBook/UltimateSpiderMan the comic of the same name]], or, for the matter, with any incarnation of the character. The tone is DenserAndWackier with a lot of comedy slapstick while all drama and dark aspect is removed, Spider-Man is a SHIELD agent learning how to be a superhero with Comicbook/NickFury as TheMentor, he is part of a team of annoying sidekick superheroes, and most villains from Spidey's actual RoguesGallery are dropped in favor of other comic villains. Not at all helped by the fact it replaced ''WesternAnimation/TheSpectacularSpiderMan'' which was largely considered to be epic, and despite the fact ''Ultimate'' had no control over ''Spectacular'''s [[CutShort fate]], people are [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks pretty]] [[ReplacementScrappy upset]].

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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Ultimate Spider-Man}}'' is considered this to the ''Franchise/SpiderMan'' franchise on the animated plain plane this series bears no similarities to [[ComicBook/UltimateSpiderMan the comic of the same name]], or, for the matter, with any incarnation of the character. The tone is DenserAndWackier with a lot of comedy slapstick while all drama and dark aspect is removed, Spider-Man is a SHIELD agent learning how to be a superhero with Comicbook/NickFury as TheMentor, he is part of a team of annoying sidekick superheroes, and most villains from Spidey's actual RoguesGallery are dropped in favor of other comic villains. Not at all helped by the fact it replaced ''WesternAnimation/TheSpectacularSpiderMan'' which was largely considered to be epic, and despite the fact ''Ultimate'' had no control over ''Spectacular'''s [[CutShort fate]], people are [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks pretty]] [[ReplacementScrappy upset]].
10th Oct '17 9:41:23 AM AlternativeCola
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* DC's competitior Creator/MarvelAnimation has suffering from this from 2012 onwards, following after the premiere of ''WesternAnimation/UltimateSpider-Man'' (see above) and a year later, ''WesternAnimation/TheAvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes'' was cancelled to make way for ''WesternAnimation/AvengersAssemble'', which has garnered flack for similar reasons as ''Ultimate'' in addition to ''WesternAnimation/HulkAndTheAgentsOfSMASH'' and ''WesternAnimation/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy2015'' soon after. While ''Ultimate'' ended and was replaced by ''WesternAnimation/MarvelsSpiderMan'' in addition to the announcement of ''WesternAnimation/BigHero6TheSeries'' and the end of ''Agents of SMASH'', it remains to be seen on when the dork age will end, given that the ''Guardians of the Galaxy'' cartoon has caused [[ContinuitySnarl some major continuity problems]] in addition to making the cartoons to be [[FollowTheLeader more like]] the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse.

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* DC's competitior Creator/MarvelAnimation has suffering from this from 2012 onwards, following after the premiere of ''WesternAnimation/UltimateSpider-Man'' ''WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan'' (see above) and a year later, ''WesternAnimation/TheAvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes'' was cancelled to make way for ''WesternAnimation/AvengersAssemble'', which has garnered flack for similar reasons as ''Ultimate'' in addition to ''WesternAnimation/HulkAndTheAgentsOfSMASH'' and ''WesternAnimation/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy2015'' soon after. While ''Ultimate'' ended and was replaced by ''WesternAnimation/MarvelsSpiderMan'' in addition to the announcement of ''WesternAnimation/BigHero6TheSeries'' and the end of ''Agents of SMASH'', it remains to be seen on when the dork age will end, given that the ''Guardians of the Galaxy'' cartoon has caused [[ContinuitySnarl some major continuity problems]] in addition to making the cartoons to be [[FollowTheLeader more like]] the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse.
10th Oct '17 2:58:37 AM AlternativeCola
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* It's safe to say that Creator/DCComics' [[WesternAnimation/DCComicsAnimated animation unit]] has been experiencing this for their TV stuff for CN (averted for [[WesternAnimation/DCUniverseAnimatedOriginalMovies their DTV line of animated films]] and their CW Seed animated shows for the ''Franchise/{{Arrowverse}}'') when ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice'' and ''WesternAnimation/GreenLanternTheAnimatedSeries'' got cancelled by Creator/CartoonNetwork, which marked the downfall of the DC Nation block. While ''WesternAnimated/BewareTheBatman'' got a good reception from critics and fans, it was ScrewedByTheNetwork and eventually aired its remaining episodes on Creator/AdultSwim, it's widely agreed that ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitansGo'' is responsible for this happening in addition to CN's overexposure of the show and to the point that ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueAction'' (which has gotten a better response than ''Go!'') was largely ignored by CN. That being said, the unit has regained some goodwill when in 2016, it was confirmed that ''Young Justice'' would be {{Uncancelled}} for a new season in 2018 but it remains to be seen if this will end the current dork age or not.
* DC's competitior Creator/MarvelAnimation has suffering from this from 2012 onwards, following after the premiere of ''WesternAnimation/UltimateSpider-Man'' (see above) and a year later, ''WesternAnimation/TheAvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes'' was cancelled to make way for ''WesternAnimation/AvengersAssemble'', which has garnered flack for similar reasons as ''Ultimate'' in addition to ''WesternAnimation/HulkAndTheAgentsOfSMASH'' and ''WesternAnimation/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy2015'' soon after. While ''Ultimate'' ended and was replaced by ''WesternAnimation/MarvelsSpiderMan'' in addition to the announcement of ''WesternAnimation/BigHero6TheSeries'' and the end of ''Agents of SMASH'', it remains to be seen on when the dork age will end, given that the ''Guardians of the Galaxy'' cartoon has caused [[ContinuitySnarl some major continuity problems]] in addition to making the cartoons to be [[FollowTheLeader more like]] the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse.
17th Sep '17 2:31:35 PM WKennedy334
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** Several consider ''WesternAnimation/WhatsNewScoobyDoo'' and ''espically'' ''WesternAnimation/ShaggyAndScoobyDooGetAClue'' to be a Dork Age as well, especially since they came out of Warner Bros. Animation's second dork age of the 2000s (their first was in the 1960s).

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** Several consider ''WesternAnimation/WhatsNewScoobyDoo'' and ''espically'' ''especially'' ''WesternAnimation/ShaggyAndScoobyDooGetAClue'' to be a Dork Age as well, especially since they came out of Warner Bros. Animation's second dork age of the 2000s (their first was in the 1960s).
17th Sep '17 2:29:15 PM WKennedy334
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** Several consider ''WesternAnimation/WhatsNewScoobyDoo'' and ''WesternAnimation/ShaggyAndScoobyDooGetAClue'' to be a Dork Age as well, especially since they came out of Warner Bros. Animation's second dork age of the 2000s (their first was in the 1960s).

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** Several consider ''WesternAnimation/WhatsNewScoobyDoo'' and ''espically'' ''WesternAnimation/ShaggyAndScoobyDooGetAClue'' to be a Dork Age as well, especially since they came out of Warner Bros. Animation's second dork age of the 2000s (their first was in the 1960s).
17th Sep '17 2:26:04 PM WKennedy334
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** This show suffered in [[UsefulNotes/LooneyTunesInTheSixties the Sixties]] as well (you know something has gone terribly wrong when they have WesternAnimation/DaffyDuck chasing WesternAnimation/SpeedyGonzales around for some reason) after the original animation unit was shuttered and work was turned over to Creator/DePatieFrelengEnterprises. Fortunately, this Dork Age comes with fair warning: if you catch a cartoon that opens with a weird version of their theme song set to trippy graphics spinning around, and the cartoon is ''not'' Creator/ChuckJones's ''Now Hear This'' (or possibly ''Norman Normal''), you're going to get to see their Dork Age.

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** This show suffered in [[UsefulNotes/LooneyTunesInTheSixties the Sixties]] as well (you know something has gone terribly wrong when they have WesternAnimation/DaffyDuck chasing WesternAnimation/SpeedyGonzales around for some reason) after the original animation unit was shuttered and work was turned over to Creator/DePatieFrelengEnterprises. Fortunately, this Dork Age comes with fair warning: if you catch a cartoon that opens with a weird version of their theme song set to trippy graphics spinning around, and the cartoon is ''not'' Creator/ChuckJones's ''Now Hear This'' (or possibly ''Norman Normal''), you're going to get to see their Dork Age.



* ''WesternAnimation/TomAndJerry'': ''WesternAnimation/TheTomAndJerryShow'' via Creator/HannaBarbera's television studio in TheSeventies. In other words, whenever Bill Hanna and Joe Barbera didn't directly make them. Basically, if you see Jerry wearing a red bowtie... it's just not that enjoyable.

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* ''WesternAnimation/TomAndJerry'': ''WesternAnimation/TheTomAndJerryShow'' via Creator/HannaBarbera's television studio in TheSeventies. In other words, whenever Bill Hanna and Joe Barbera didn't directly make them. Basically, if you see Jerry wearing a red bowtie... it's just not that enjoyable.bowtie.... you should definitely run away from it.
16th Sep '17 7:04:54 AM TommyTiger
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* When you see WesternAnimation/MickeyMouse [[FullyDressedCartoonAnimal fully dressed with a hat and long pants]], and it's not a costume trying to invoke a certain setting or role, you know he's not going to be any more interesting than your neighbor. Disney historians fully admit the increased emphasis on WesternAnimation/DonaldDuck and WesternAnimation/{{Goofy}} was partly caused by Mickey's iconic fame making him slightly inflexible and too 'sweet' to put in funny cartoons or as anyone's foil. Earlier, he was a mischievous adventurer (''Franchise/KingdomHearts'', [[OlderThanTheyThink ironically]], is fairly close to this depiction). DorkAge Mickey sits at home and gives Pluto orders like a bossy, boring parent. Another indication of DorkAge Mickey is if he had eyebrows on him. Eyebrows below face borders[[note]]The lines that separates Mickey's black fur from his white or cream face[[/note]] that normally function as [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment eyebrows.]] {{Lampshade|Hanging}}d in the Disney Vault ''[[Series/SaturdayNightLive TV Funhouse]]'' sketch ("You're supposed to be ''funny''?"). That line came about from Robert Smigel's puzzlement of Mickey Mouse being such an iconic kids character when most kids can't actually name a defining trait or characteristic for him.

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* When you see WesternAnimation/MickeyMouse [[FullyDressedCartoonAnimal fully dressed with a hat and long pants]], and it's not a costume trying to invoke a certain setting or role, you know he's not going to be any more interesting than your neighbor. Disney historians fully admit the increased emphasis on WesternAnimation/DonaldDuck and WesternAnimation/{{Goofy}} was partly caused by Mickey's iconic fame making him slightly inflexible and too 'sweet' to put in funny cartoons or as anyone's foil. Earlier, he was a mischievous adventurer (''Franchise/KingdomHearts'', [[OlderThanTheyThink ironically]], is fairly close to this depiction). DorkAge Mickey sits at home and gives Pluto orders like a bossy, boring parent. Another indication of DorkAge Mickey is if he had eyebrows on him. Eyebrows him (as in, eyebrows below face borders[[note]]The lines that separates Mickey's black fur from his white or cream face[[/note]] that normally function as [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment eyebrows.]] eyebrows]]). {{Lampshade|Hanging}}d in the Disney Vault ''[[Series/SaturdayNightLive TV Funhouse]]'' sketch ("You're supposed to be ''funny''?"). That line came about from Robert Smigel's puzzlement of Mickey Mouse being such an iconic kids character when most kids can't actually name a defining trait or characteristic for him.



* ''WesternAnimation/TomAndJerry'': ''WesternAnimation/TheTomAndJerryShow'' via Creator/HannaBarbera's television studio in TheSeventies. In other words, whenever Bill Hanna and Joe Barbera didn't directly make them. Basically, if you see Jerry wearing a red bowtie... run, just run.

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* ''WesternAnimation/TomAndJerry'': ''WesternAnimation/TheTomAndJerryShow'' via Creator/HannaBarbera's television studio in TheSeventies. In other words, whenever Bill Hanna and Joe Barbera didn't directly make them. Basically, if you see Jerry wearing a red bowtie... run, it's just run.not that enjoyable.
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