History DorkAge / Sports

3rd Jul '17 10:17:27 PM rushguy1
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** The Mike Sherman years definitely qualify as their latest Dork Age. In addition to being their coach, he was also given the mantle of general manager after Ron Wolf retired. To say this was a colossal mistake was an understatement; Sherman's scouting abilities were virtually nonexistent and resulted in such [[SarcasmMode stellar draft picks]] as Ahmad "Highway 28" Carroll and B.J. Sander. The latter was taken in the third round, and he was a punter. That Sherman ''traded up'' to get. In addition to that, photos surfaced of him asleep at the player combines, which only fueled the fire against him. While they posted decent records under Sherman and won the NFC North three times, they struggled in the playoffs. The Packers suffered their first home playoff loss under his tenure, a 277 asskicking at the hands of the Atlanta Falcons, and also their second, a 3117 loss to the Minnesota Vikings in 2005. The 2005 season resulted in a 412 record, the first losing season for the Packers since 1991, and resulted in Sherman's firing. Some argue that the seeds of Brett Favre's diva attitude were sown here as well; whereas Mike Holmgren wasn't afraid to smack him upside the head when he did something stupid, Sherman's coaching philosophy seemed to be "Brett can do whatever the hell he wants." It's no coincidence that his interceptions trended higher in this period, culminating in a 29-interception season in 2005. When Mike [=McCarthy=] was hired, everyone rejoiced.

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** The Mike Sherman years definitely qualify as their latest Dork Age. In addition to being their coach, he was also given the mantle of general manager after Ron Wolf retired. To say this was a colossal mistake was an understatement; Sherman's scouting abilities were virtually nonexistent and resulted in such [[SarcasmMode stellar draft picks]] as Ahmad Carroll (a cornerback who was notorious for constantly giving up big plays, earning him the nickname "Highway 28" Carroll 28") and B.J. Sander. The latter was taken in the third round, and he was Sander, a punter. That punter that Sherman ''traded up'' to get. In addition to that, photos surfaced of him asleep at the player combines, which only fueled the fire against him. While they posted decent records under Sherman and won the NFC North three times, they struggled in the playoffs. The Packers suffered their first home playoff loss under his tenure, a 277 asskicking at the hands of the Atlanta Falcons, and also their second, a 3117 loss to the Minnesota Vikings in 2005. The 2005 season resulted in a 412 record, the first losing season for the Packers since 1991, and resulted in Sherman's firing. Some argue that the seeds of Brett Favre's diva attitude were sown here as well; whereas Mike Holmgren wasn't afraid to smack him upside the head when he did something stupid, Sherman's coaching philosophy seemed to be "Brett can do whatever the hell he wants." It's no coincidence that his interceptions trended higher in this period, culminating in a 29-interception season in 2005. When Mike [=McCarthy=] was hired, everyone rejoiced.
1st Jul '17 1:24:03 PM Smugleaf_Raptors2012
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** Beloved forward Ryan Smyth was the centerpiece of the second DorkAge. Just like Gretzky and Messier, the Oilers could not afford to keep Smyth, who was set to enter free agency at the end of the year. At the 2007 trade deadline, a year after he was the centerpiece of an improbable Cup run, Smyth was sent to the New York Islanders for prospects. The Oilers finished the 200607 season on a 2161 slide, knocking them out of playoff contention. As of 2014, they have yet to return to the playoffs, racking up three consecutive number 1 draft picks between 2010 and 2012.

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** Beloved forward Ryan Smyth was the centerpiece of the second DorkAge. Just like Gretzky and Messier, the Oilers could not afford to keep Smyth, who was set to enter free agency at the end of the year. At the 2007 trade deadline, a year after he was the centerpiece of an improbable Cup run, Smyth was sent to the New York Islanders for prospects. The Oilers finished the 200607 season on a 2161 slide, knocking them out of playoff contention. As of 2014, they have yet The Oilers failed to return to make the playoffs, playoffs until the 2016-17 season, while racking up three consecutive 4 number 1 draft picks in 6 years between 2010 and 2012.



* Many NHL teams hit extreme slumps after success. For example, the Detroit Red Wings were better known as the "Dead Things" after Gordie Howe retired (until Steve Yzerman took over...15 years later), the Chicago Blackhawks took two rebuilds to get back to mediocrity, and the Washington Capitals spent several years as a bottom feeder team before rebounding.

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* Many NHL teams hit extreme slumps after success. For example, the Detroit Red Wings were better known as the "Dead Things" after Gordie Howe retired (until Steve Yzerman took over...15 years later), the Chicago Blackhawks took two rebuilds to get back to mediocrity, and the Washington Capitals spent several years as a bottom feeder team before rebounding.rebounding by drafting Alexander Ovechkin.
27th Apr '17 9:19:12 PM AreYouTyler
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* After years of success in Oakland and Los Angeles, the Oakland Raiders entered a Dork Age after their 2003 curb-stomping by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in Super Bowl XXXVII (Who were led by Jon Gruden, the head coach Al Davis practically gave away with contempt). In the ten seasons since, they haven't returned to the playoffs and only finished better than 5-11 three times, in 2010 and 2011 with 88 records, and 2015 at 79. All but the most apologetic NFL fans point to Al Davis' waning health and mental capabilities late in life, and his stubborn refusal step down as General Manager. Some fans think it actually started with Davis' falling out and eventual acrimonious split with running back Marcus Allen in 1993 (Allen left as a free agent and signed with the Raiders' bitter rival, Kansas City). Things have started turn around with Davis' son, Mark Davis, in control.

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* After years of success in Oakland and Los Angeles, the Oakland Raiders entered a Dork Age after their 2003 curb-stomping by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in Super Bowl XXXVII (Who were led by Jon Gruden, the head coach Al Davis practically gave away with contempt). In the ten seasons since, Since then, their playoff drought lasted until 2016, and they haven't returned to the playoffs and only finished better than 5-11 three four times, in 2010 and 2011 with 88 records, and 2015 at 79.79, and 2016 with a 12-4 record. All but the most apologetic NFL fans point to Al Davis' waning health and mental capabilities late in life, and his stubborn refusal step down as General Manager. Some fans think it actually started with Davis' falling out and eventual acrimonious split with running back Marcus Allen in 1993 (Allen left as a free agent and signed with the Raiders' bitter rival, Kansas City). Things have started to turn around with Davis' son, Mark Davis, in control.
11th Mar '17 9:37:09 PM Jhonny
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* If the Cleveland Browns were European and played soccer, they might be the 1.FC Nürnberg. One of the finest teams of the 1920s and still pretty damn good up to the 1968 championship (their ninth), they managed to do what no team had done before or done since - they were relegated as reigning champions. The years after that were painful attempts to get back into the first division, which they only managed once they had given up on it - only to get relegated promptly thereafter. They proceeded to buy players that - as 1968 coach Max Merkel observed - would not be worth the price a butcher would ask for them and proceeded to humiliate and embarrass their fans in every way possible, despite a brief respite in the 1980s when a young team made it to the UEFA Cup and the DFB-Cup final (which they lost to Bayern München). However, in 2007 the team seemed to have finally caught a break. Lead by beloved coach Hans Meyer, they made it to the Cup Final and won it this time. With a bright future ahead, a team was assembled that could tackle the European games to come.... Only to manage something which has ''also'' not been done by any other German team before or since: They were relegated as reigning cup champions. Solid work boys, solid work. Basically everything since (and including) 1969 has been a giant dork age and unlike other examples, there seems to be just no end in sight. Fans have taken to the phrase "Der Glubb is a Debb - Aber ich mooch nan" [[note]]dialect for: "The Club (Nuremberg is often referred to as simply "Der Club" which in Franconia is prononuced with a G) is an idiot - but I still love it"[[/note]]

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* If the Cleveland Browns were European and played soccer, they might be the 1.FC Nürnberg. One of the finest teams in all of soccer during the 1920s and still pretty damn good up to the 1968 championship (their ninth), they managed to do what no team had done before or done since - they were relegated as reigning champions.champions. Among the things they screwed up after their ninth championship was trading the leading scorer, Franz Brungs, of the league ''against his express wishes'' - it was then believed that a new squad ready to tackle the coming European games had to be assembled and there was no place for Brungs anymore. The result was one of the strongest team ever to be relegated from the ''Bundesliga'' but relegated they were. The years after that were painful attempts to get back into the first division, which they only managed once they had given up on it - only to get relegated promptly thereafter. They proceeded to buy players that - as 1968 coach Max Merkel observed - would not be worth the price a butcher would ask for them and proceeded to humiliate and embarrass their fans in every way possible, despite a brief respite in the 1980s when a young team made it to the UEFA Cup and the DFB-Cup final (which they lost to Bayern München). However, in 2007 the team seemed to have finally caught a break. Lead by beloved coach Hans Meyer, they made it to the Cup Final and won it this time. With a bright future ahead, a team was assembled that could tackle the European games to come.... (notice a pattern?) Only to manage something which has ''also'' not been done by any other German team before or since: They were relegated as reigning cup champions. Solid work boys, solid work. Basically everything since (and including) 1969 has been a giant dork age and unlike other examples, there seems to be just no end in sight. Fans have taken to the phrase "Der Glubb is a Debb - Aber ich mooch nan" [[note]]dialect for: "The Club (Nuremberg is often referred to as simply "Der Club" which in Franconia is prononuced pronounced with a G) is an idiot - but I still love it"[[/note]]
11th Mar '17 9:31:49 PM Jhonny
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** The 49ers under the York family have turned into the NFL's joke, save for a 4-year run (2011-2015) under Jim Harbaugh's tutelage. The Niners' struggles began when the Yorks replaced head coach Steve Mariucci with Dennis Erickson, who proceeded to have two straight losing seasons while coaching practically the same team Mariucci led to the playoffs. Not helping was an increasingly toxic locker-room atmosphere (sparked primarily by the feud between Quarterback Jeff Garcia and Wide Receiver Terrell Owens), the departures of key players like Owens, Garcia, and Garrison Hearst, and the drafting of infamous bust Rashaun Woods. Things seemed to turn around in 2005, when Erickson and GM Terry Donahue were fired and the team selected quarterback Alex Smith with the Number One pick. Unfortunately, Erickson's successor as head coach, Mike Nolan, was no better, and Smith was pretty much an injury-prone bust during his early career. The Niners then replaced Nolan with Mike Singletary, who was a good motivator (a strange example was when he dropped his pants to allude to his team's embarrassing play) but an otherwise mediocre coach, and the Niners kept on losing. However, the Niners' constant losing hid the fact that they were able to draft key building blocks such as Frank Gore, Vernon Davis, Andy Lee, Patrick Willis, Joe Staley, NaVorro Bowman, and Colin Kaepernick. Said building blocks (and Alex Smith's improvement) led to the team becoming a powerhouse once Harbaugh arrived. Unfortunately, said success would end once Harbaugh left due to a dispute with management and was replaced by Jim Tomsula, who was just flat-out incompetent. With key players either leaving (like Willis, Smith, Gore etc.), getting injured (Bowman), or just flat-out struggling (Kaepernick), the Niners went from playoff contenders to the NFL's laughingstock, even after Tomsula was replaced by Chip Kelly, who was eventually fired as well. Thankfully, a new GM (John Lynch), a new head coach (Kyle Shanahan), some young prospects (Carlos Hyde, Eric Reid, and DeForrest Buckner, to name a few), and a host of free-agent signings (e.g. Pierre Garcon and Malcolm Smith) may mean that the Dork Age might be nearing its end, but the stench of the Yorks' ownership might still keep it going.

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** The 49ers under the York family have turned into the NFL's joke, save for a 4-year run (2011-2015) under Jim Harbaugh's tutelage. The Niners' struggles began when the Yorks replaced head coach Steve Mariucci with Dennis Erickson, who proceeded to have two straight losing seasons while coaching practically the same team Mariucci led to the playoffs. Not helping was an increasingly toxic locker-room atmosphere (sparked primarily by the feud between Quarterback Jeff Garcia and Wide Receiver Terrell Owens), the departures of key players like Owens, Garcia, and Garrison Hearst, and the drafting of infamous bust Rashaun Woods. Things seemed to turn around in 2005, when Erickson and GM Terry Donahue were fired and the team selected quarterback Alex Smith with the Number One pick. Unfortunately, Erickson's successor as head coach, Mike Nolan, was no better, and Smith was pretty much an injury-prone bust during his early career. The Niners then replaced Nolan with Mike Singletary, who was a good motivator (a strange example was when he dropped his pants to allude to his team's embarrassing play) but an otherwise mediocre coach, and the Niners kept on losing. However, the Niners' constant losing hid the fact that they were able to draft key building blocks such as Frank Gore, Vernon Davis, Andy Lee, Patrick Willis, Joe Staley, NaVorro Bowman, and Colin Kaepernick. Said building blocks (and Alex Smith's improvement) led to the team becoming a powerhouse once Harbaugh arrived. Unfortunately, said success would end once Harbaugh left due to a dispute with management and was replaced by Jim Tomsula, who was just flat-out incompetent. With key players either leaving (like Willis, Smith, Gore etc.), getting injured (Bowman), or just flat-out struggling (Kaepernick), the Niners went from playoff contenders to the NFL's laughingstock, even after Tomsula was replaced by Chip Kelly, who was eventually fired as well. Thankfully, a new GM (John Lynch), a new head coach (Kyle Shanahan), some young prospects (Carlos Hyde, Eric Reid, and DeForrest [=DeForrest=] Buckner, to name a few), and a host of free-agent signings (e.g. Pierre Garcon and Malcolm Smith) may mean that the Dork Age might be nearing its end, but the stench of the Yorks' ownership might still keep it going.
11th Mar '17 9:28:34 PM Jhonny
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** The quarterback position has been a particularly sore spot for the new Browns, as they've either had draft busts (Tim Couch, and, unless he sorts his life out, Johnny Manziel), nondescript journeymen (Kelly Holcomb, Josh and Luke [=McCown=]), or past-their-prime former studs (Jeff Garcia, Jake Delhomme) leading the team. As of the 2016 offseason, the team has had 24 starting quarterbacks in 17 seasons. Compare that to the New England Patriots, who have only had ''three'' starting [=QBs=] -- Drew Bledsoe, Creator/TomBrady, and Brady fill-in Matt Cassel -- over the same period of time.

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** The quarterback position has been a particularly sore spot for the new Browns, as they've either had draft busts (Tim Couch, and, unless he sorts his life out, Johnny Manziel), nondescript journeymen (Kelly Holcomb, Josh and Luke [=McCown=]), or past-their-prime former studs (Jeff Garcia, Jake Delhomme) leading the team. As of the 2016 offseason, the team has had 24 starting quarterbacks in 17 seasons. Compare that to the New England Patriots, who have only had ''three'' starting [=QBs=] -- Drew Bledsoe, Creator/TomBrady, and Brady fill-in Matt Cassel -- over the same period of time. And given the woes of all starting Quarterbacks since then "draft bust" Tim Couch (who was not worth a first overall pick, granted, but he was not ''that'' bad) starts to look pretty good for a Browns QB.
11th Mar '17 7:27:12 PM PkmnFightr
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* Even the San Miguel Beermen, the PBA's most successful active franchise, are not immune to the occasional slump. One such DorkAge happened during the mid-90's (between the last years of legendary coach Norman Black's tenure and the acquisition of team legend Danny Ildefonso): stars such as Mon Fernandez and Ato Agustin either retired or got injured, local coaches complained after the Beermen hired American coach Ron Jacobs, and the team frequently choked in the playoffs. Another slump happened when the team played as the "Petron Blaze Boosters": despite the Governor's Cup triumph in 2011 and the excellent play of stars Alex Cabagnot and Arwind Santos, the team went through numerous playoff chokes and coaching changes before they drafted 6'11" giant [=JuneMar=] Fajardo, hired Leo Austria as coach, acquired veterans Chris Ross and Ronald tubid, reverted to the "San Miguel Beermen" moniker, and became a consistent championship contender.

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* Even the San Miguel Beermen, the PBA's most successful active franchise, are not immune to the occasional slump. One such DorkAge happened during the mid-90's (between the last years of legendary coach Norman Black's tenure and the acquisition of team legend Danny Ildefonso): stars such as Mon Fernandez and Ato Agustin either retired or got injured, local coaches complained after the Beermen hired American coach Ron Jacobs, and the team frequently choked in the playoffs. Another slump happened when the team played as the "Petron Blaze Boosters": Boosters" from 2011-2014: despite the Governor's Cup triumph in 2011 and the excellent play of stars Alex Cabagnot and Arwind Santos, the team went through numerous playoff chokes and coaching changes before they drafted 6'11" giant [=JuneMar=] Fajardo, hired Leo Austria as coach, acquired veterans Chris Ross and Ronald tubid, reverted to the "San Miguel Beermen" moniker, and became a consistent championship contender.contender.
* Current contenders Talk n' Text were this during their days as the 7Up Uncolas and the Mobiline Phone Pals; they had a gritty and physical style of play (much like the Detroit Pistons during the "Bad Boy" era), but they weren't able to win anything of note until they acquired half-Filipino standouts Asi Taulava and Andy Siegle.
11th Mar '17 7:22:16 PM PkmnFightr
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* Even the San Miguel Beermen, the PBA's most successful active franchise, are not immune to the occasional slump. One such DorkAge happened during the mid-90's (between the last years of legendary coach Norman Black's tenure and the acquisition of team legend Danny Ildefonso): stars such as Mon Fernandez and Ato Agustin either retired or got injured, local coaches complained after the Beermen hired American coach Ron Jacobs, and the team frequently choked in the playoffs. Another slump happened when the team played as the "Petron Blaze Boosters": despite the Governor's Cup triumph in 2011 and the excellent play of stars Alex Cabagnot and Arwind Santos, the team went through numerous playoff chokes and coaching changes before they drafted 6'11" giant [=JuneMar=] Fajardo, hired Leo Austria as coach, acquired veterans Chris Ross and Ronald tubid, reverted to the "San Miguel Beermen" moniker, and became a consistent championship contender.
11th Mar '17 6:47:56 PM Jhonny
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* The German national team (which is just as much a world power in Handball as it is in soccer) after their win of the 2007 world cup. Before that, they had been to the final of the 2003 World Cup, to the final of the 2002 European Championship and won the 2004 European Championship, after that the flunked to fifth, eleventh, fifth and not even qualified[[note]] They did get a totally bogus "wild card" because the International Handball Federation could not afford to lose out on the German market - Germany ultimately placed seventh[[/note]] in World Cups and fourth, tenth, seventh and ''note even qualified''[[note]] [[RealityEnsues No Wild Card this time]] [[/note]] in European Championships. Until they made a few adjustments, hired Dagur Sigurðsson from Iceland as their manager and managed a DarkHorseVictory in the 2016 European Championship. Whether that is the new normal or only the setup for yet more embarrassing defeat remains to be seen. Given their loss against Qatar in the round of 16 at the 2017 world cup, it seems the 2016 European Championship was a fluke and not the other way round.

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* The German national team (which is just as much a world power in Handball as it is in soccer) after their win of the 2007 world cup. Before that, they had been to the final of the 2003 World Cup, to the final of the 2002 European Championship and won the 2004 European Championship, after that the they flunked to fifth, eleventh, fifth and not even qualified[[note]] They did get a totally bogus "wild card" because the International Handball Federation could not afford to lose out on the German market - Germany ultimately placed seventh[[/note]] in World Cups and fourth, tenth, seventh and ''note even qualified''[[note]] [[RealityEnsues No Wild Card this time]] [[/note]] in European Championships. Until they made a few adjustments, hired Dagur Sigurðsson from Iceland as their manager and managed a DarkHorseVictory in the 2016 European Championship. Whether that is the new normal or only the setup for yet more embarrassing defeat remains to be seen. Given their loss against Qatar in the round of 16 at the 2017 world cup, it seems the 2016 European Championship was a fluke and not the other way round.
11th Mar '17 6:32:04 PM PkmnFightr
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* Many younger fans don't know about the San Jose Sharks' struggles in TheNineties, due to the Sharks' relative success (despite their [[EveryYearTheyFizzleOut near-constant playoff chokes]]) in recent history and their extremely 90's-era identity (black and teal as primary colors, a scary animal mascot, "Get Ready for This" as a goal song). As expected for an expansion team, the Sharks were perennial underachievers, despite their rabid fanbase, the presence of talented players such as Doug Wilson, Arturs Irbe, and Owen Nolan, and some early successes (first-round playoff upsets of the Detroit Red Wings and the Calgary Flames). The Sharks then TookALevelInBadass after hitting rock bottom in 1997, drafting young stud Patrick Marleau (seen by some as the best Sharks player of all time) and hiring Daryl Sutter. Ever since then, they have been a constant playoff threat (albeit one that [[EveryYearTheyFizzleOut always fizzles out]]) and a huge draw for fans in the South Bay Area. Many even consider the San Jose Sharks as one of the most successful post-90's expansion teams in North American sports.

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* Many younger fans don't know about the San Jose Sharks' struggles in TheNineties, due to the Sharks' relative success (despite their [[EveryYearTheyFizzleOut near-constant playoff chokes]]) in recent history and their extremely 90's-era identity (black and teal as primary colors, a scary animal mascot, "Get Ready for This" as a goal song). As expected for an expansion team, the Sharks were perennial underachievers, despite their rabid fanbase, the presence of talented players such as Doug Wilson, Arturs Irbe, and Owen Nolan, and some early successes (first-round playoff upsets of the Detroit Red Wings and the Calgary Flames). The Sharks then TookALevelInBadass after hitting rock bottom in 1997, drafting young stud Patrick Marleau (seen by some as the best Sharks player of all time) and hiring Daryl Sutter. Ever since then, they have been a constant playoff threat (albeit ([[NeverLiveItDown albeit one that that]] [[EveryYearTheyFizzleOut always fizzles out]]) makes an early exit from the post-season]]) and a huge draw for fans in the South Bay Area. Many even consider the San Jose Sharks as one of the most successful post-90's expansion teams in North American sports.



*** The second one was during the last season of head coach Todd McLellan (2014/2015). Following an embarrassing first round choke to the hated Los Angeles Kings, the Sharks ended up stripping Joe Thornton of the captaincy and going the entire season without a captain. They also made some uninspired offseason moves, such as signing John Scott and letting go of the likes of Martin Havlat and Dan Boyle. This ended up with San Jose finishing sixth in the Pacific Division and missing the playoffs for the first time since 1997. This was despite the presence of veterans Thornton and Marleau, the strong play of stars Joe Pavelski, Logan Couture, and Brent Burns, and the development of young studs such a Tomas Hertl, Melker Karlsson, and Chris Tierney. Thankfully, the Sharks' slide was halted when GM Doug Wilson (considered by some a scapegoat of the Sharks' struggles) replaced McLellan with Frank DeBoer (who named Pavelski team captain), and made key acquisitions such as Martin Jones, Joel Ward, and Paul Martin. These moves ended up not only [[TookALevelInBadass bringing the Sharks]] [[HesBack back to the post-season]], but also led to the Sharks' first-ever appearance in the Stanley Cup finals...where they lost to the Penguins in six games.

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*** The second one was during the last season of head coach Todd McLellan [=McLellan=] (2014/2015). Following an embarrassing first round choke to the hated Los Angeles Kings, the Sharks ended up stripping Joe Thornton of the captaincy and going the entire season without a captain. They also made some uninspired offseason moves, such as signing John Scott and letting go of the likes of Martin Havlat and Dan Boyle. This ended up with San Jose finishing sixth in the Pacific Division and missing the playoffs for the first time since 1997. This was despite the presence of veterans Thornton and Marleau, the strong play of stars Joe Pavelski, Logan Couture, and Brent Burns, and the development of young studs such a Tomas Hertl, Melker Karlsson, and Chris Tierney. Thankfully, the Sharks' slide was halted when GM Doug Wilson (considered by some a scapegoat of the Sharks' struggles) replaced McLellan [=McLellan=] with Frank DeBoer [=DeBoer=] (who named Pavelski team captain), and made key acquisitions such as Martin Jones, Joel Ward, Joonas Doonskoi, and Paul Martin. These moves ended up not only [[TookALevelInBadass bringing the Sharks]] [[HesBack back to the post-season]], but also led to the Sharks' first-ever appearance in the Stanley Cup finals...where they [[EveryYearTheyFizzleOut lost to to]] [[YankTheDogsChain the Penguins Penguins]] [[RunningGag in six games.games]]. Some things just never change.
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