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23rd Nov '17 11:03:21 AM TheRedRedKroovy
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* ''Neighborhoods'', the first album that Music/Blink182 recorded after ending their hiatus, endured a TroubledProduction, with all of the band's members choosing to record their parts separately due to both their schedules and lingering friction between them, communicating primarily through emails and their managers and only rarely recording together. It shows, with many fans deriding the album as stale, bland, and feeling as though [[CreatorsApathy nobody involved was all that interested in making it]], an accusation that Travis Barker and Mark Hoppus themselves [[https://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/blink-182s-hoppus-barker-blast-ungrateful-disingenuous-tom-delonge-20150126 later lodged at DeLonge]]. The album's failure led to blink-182 getting dropped from Interscope and [=DeLonge=] leaving the band, to be replaced by Matt Skiba of Alkaline Trio. Their subsequent album with Skiba, 2016's ''California'', was praised by fans as a return to form (even if many of them missed [=DeLonge=]'s presence and thought the band was just resting on its old formula), and became their first number one album in fifteen years.

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* ''Neighborhoods'', the first album that Music/Blink182 recorded after ending their hiatus, endured a TroubledProduction, with all of the band's members choosing to record their parts separately due to both their schedules and lingering friction between them, communicating primarily through emails and their managers and only rarely recording together. It shows, with many fans deriding the album as stale, bland, and feeling as though [[CreatorsApathy nobody involved was all that interested in making it]], an accusation that Travis Barker and Mark Hoppus themselves [[https://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/blink-182s-hoppus-barker-blast-ungrateful-disingenuous-tom-delonge-20150126 later lodged at Tom DeLonge]]. The album's failure led to blink-182 getting dropped from Interscope and [=DeLonge=] leaving the band, to be replaced by Matt Skiba of Alkaline Trio. Their subsequent album with Skiba, 2016's ''California'', was praised by fans as a return to form (even if many of them missed [=DeLonge=]'s presence and thought the band was just resting on its old formula), and became their first number one album in fifteen years.
23rd Nov '17 11:02:59 AM TheRedRedKroovy
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* ''Neighborhoods'', the first album that Music/Blink182 recorded after ending their hiatus, endured a TroubledProduction due to all of the band's members choosing to record their parts separately due to both their schedules and lingering friction between them, communicating primarily through emails and their managers and only rarely recording together. It shows, with many fans deriding the album as stale and bland, feeling as though [[CreatorsApathy nobody involved was all that interested in making it]]. The album's failure led to the band getting dropped from Interscope and [=DeLonge=]'s departure, to be replaced by Matt Skiba of Music/AlkalineTrio. Their subsequent album with Skiba, 2016's ''California'', was praised by fans as a return to form (even if many of them missed [=DeLonge=]'s presence and thought the band was just resting on its old formula), and became their first number one album in fifteen years.

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* ''Neighborhoods'', the first album that Music/Blink182 recorded after ending their hiatus, endured a TroubledProduction due to TroubledProduction, with all of the band's members choosing to record their parts separately due to both their schedules and lingering friction between them, communicating primarily through emails and their managers and only rarely recording together. It shows, with many fans deriding the album as stale and stale, bland, and feeling as though [[CreatorsApathy nobody involved was all that interested in making it]]. it]], an accusation that Travis Barker and Mark Hoppus themselves [[https://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/blink-182s-hoppus-barker-blast-ungrateful-disingenuous-tom-delonge-20150126 later lodged at DeLonge]]. The album's failure led to the band blink-182 getting dropped from Interscope and [=DeLonge=]'s departure, [=DeLonge=] leaving the band, to be replaced by Matt Skiba of Music/AlkalineTrio.Alkaline Trio. Their subsequent album with Skiba, 2016's ''California'', was praised by fans as a return to form (even if many of them missed [=DeLonge=]'s presence and thought the band was just resting on its old formula), and became their first number one album in fifteen years.
23rd Nov '17 10:52:42 AM TheRedRedKroovy
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* ''Neighborhoods'', the first album that Music/Blink182 recorded after ending their hiatus, endured a TroubledProduction due to all of the band's members choosing to record their parts separately due to both their schedules and lingering friction between them, communicating primarily through emails and their managers and only rarely recording together. It shows, with many fans deriding the album as stale and bland, feeling as though [[CreatorsApathy nobody involved was all that interested in making it]]. The album's failure led to the band getting dropped from Interscope and [=DeLonge=]'s departure, to be replaced by Matt Skiba of Music/AlkalineTrio. Their subsequent album with Skiba, 2016's ''California'', was praised by fans as a return to form (even if many of them missed [=DeLonge=]'s presence and thought the band was just resting on its old formula), and became their first number one album in fifteen years.
22nd Nov '17 8:31:05 PM supernintendo128
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** By 1973, Carl and Dennis's leadership diminished due to substance abuse and Dennis's struggling battle with his own inner demons, and in 1976, an attempt was made to bring Brian back to the band's forefront. The result was the underwhelming ''15 Big Ones'' and the [[BrokenBase love-it-or-hate-it]] ''The Beach Boys Love You''. Brian quickly receded back into the background as it quickly became clear that he was in no shape to produce anymore Beach Boys albums, and spent the remainder of the 70s and most of the 80s undergoing therapy by the [[ControlFreak infamous]] [[PsychoPsychologist Eugene Landy]].

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** By 1973, Carl and Dennis's leadership diminished due to substance abuse and Dennis's struggling battle with his own inner demons, and in 1976, an attempt was made to bring Brian back to the band's forefront.forefront, which included making him tour with the Beach Boys again (he previously quit touring with them in 1965 due to mental health issues) and produce several more albums. The result was the underwhelming ''15 Big Ones'' and the [[BrokenBase love-it-or-hate-it]] ''The Beach Boys Love You''. Brian quickly receded back into the background as it quickly became clear that he was in no shape to continue touring or produce anymore Beach Boys albums, and spent the remainder of the 70s and most of the 80s undergoing therapy by the [[ControlFreak infamous]] [[PsychoPsychologist Eugene Landy]].



** In short, the Beach Boys slowly went from one of the most critically acclaimed rock acts of all time to the industry laughing stock and back, and is presumed to be the reason why so many Beach Boys fans ''deeply'' resent Mike Love. While the albums that came after ''Pet Sounds'' and before ''15 Big Ones'' went on to become cult classics, people prefer to forget about anything they did after that. However, they finally climbed out of the dork age with the well-recieved 2012 reunion album ''That's Why God Made the Radio''.

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** In short, the Beach Boys slowly went from one of the most critically acclaimed rock acts of all time to the industry laughing stock and back, and is presumed to be the reason why so many Beach Boys fans ''deeply'' resent Mike Love. While the albums that came after ''Pet Sounds'' and before ''15 Big Ones'' went on to become cult classics, classics ([[BrokenBase again, YMMV on]] ''[[BrokenBase Love You]]''), people prefer to forget about anything they did after that. However, they finally climbed out of the dork age with the well-recieved 2012 reunion album ''That's Why God Made the Radio''.
19th Nov '17 7:08:16 AM AgProv
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* The Music/BlueOysterCult's ''Mirrors'' album - a deliberate move into a softer more pop-rock and above all commercial style - is thought of as this by most fans. That it succeeded the hard-rocking ''Music/{{Spectres}}'', thought of as one of their greatest albums, only added to the dissappointment. The band were perceived as returning to form afterwards with ''Cultosaurus Erectus'' and ''Fire of Unkonwn Origin'', but ''Mirrors'' remains pretty much their Dork Age. And the least said about the later ''Imaginos'', the better.
26th Oct '17 11:20:33 PM TheRedRedKroovy
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* The peak of Music/ElvisPresley's career ended when he was drafted into the US Army in 1958, but when he completed his service in 1960, he seemed poised for a comeback. Unfortunately, his manager Colonel Tom Parker pushed him into a film career, which saw him star in a long string of StrictlyFormula musical comedies that, while mostly successful at the box office, were almost universally panned by critics. Worse, the heavy production schedule (he was making two or three movies a year for the whole of TheSixties) was cutting into his music career. Most of the hits he had in the '60s came from the soundtracks to his movies, which were met with diminishing returns starting mid-decade, and until his televised comeback special in 1968, he did not perform live after 1961 and only recorded one album of non-soundtrack music after 1962. By the time his career bottomed out with the failure of the film ''Clambake'' and its soundtrack in 1967, music enthusiasts saw him as a joke and his former fans saw him as a has-been. His comeback special inspired a CareerResurrection, and while he never again enjoyed the mega-stardom he had in TheFifties, by the time he died in 1977 he had regained his position as pop music royalty.

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* The peak of Music/ElvisPresley's career ended when he was drafted into the US Army in 1958, but when he completed his service in 1960, he seemed poised for a comeback. Unfortunately, his manager Colonel Tom Parker pushed him into a film career, which saw him star in a long string of StrictlyFormula musical comedies that, while mostly successful at the box office, were almost universally panned by critics. Worse, the heavy production schedule (he was making two or three movies a year for the whole of TheSixties) was cutting into his music career. Most of the hits he had in the '60s came from the soundtracks to his movies, which were met with diminishing returns starting mid-decade, and until his televised comeback special in 1968, he did not perform live after 1961 and only recorded one album of non-soundtrack music after 1962. By the time his career bottomed out with the failure of the film ''Clambake'' and its soundtrack in 1967, music enthusiasts saw him as a joke and his former fans saw him as a has-been. His comeback special inspired a CareerResurrection, and while he never again enjoyed the mega-stardom he had in TheFifties, by the time he died in 1977 he had regained his position as pop music royalty.royalty and the King of Rock.
26th Oct '17 8:45:27 PM TheRedRedKroovy
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* The peak of Music/ElvisPresley's career ended when he was drafted into the US Army in 1958, but when he completed his service in 1960, he seemed poised for a comeback. Unfortunately, his manager Colonel Tom Parker pushed him into a film career, which saw him star in a long string of StrictlyFormula musical comedies that, while mostly successful at the box office, were almost universally panned by critics. Worse, the heavy production schedule (he was making two or three movies a year for the whole of TheSixties) was cutting into his music career. Most of the hits he had in the '60s came from the soundtracks to his movies, which were met with diminishing returns starting mid-decade, and until his comeback special in 1968, he did not perform live after 1961 and only recorded one album of non-soundtrack music after 1962. Music enthusiasts saw him as a joke during this time, and his former fans saw him as a has-been. His comeback special inspired a CareerResurrection, and while he never again enjoyed the mega-stardom he had in TheFifties, by the time he died in 1977 he had regained his position as pop music royalty.

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* The peak of Music/ElvisPresley's career ended when he was drafted into the US Army in 1958, but when he completed his service in 1960, he seemed poised for a comeback. Unfortunately, his manager Colonel Tom Parker pushed him into a film career, which saw him star in a long string of StrictlyFormula musical comedies that, while mostly successful at the box office, were almost universally panned by critics. Worse, the heavy production schedule (he was making two or three movies a year for the whole of TheSixties) was cutting into his music career. Most of the hits he had in the '60s came from the soundtracks to his movies, which were met with diminishing returns starting mid-decade, and until his televised comeback special in 1968, he did not perform live after 1961 and only recorded one album of non-soundtrack music after 1962. Music By the time his career bottomed out with the failure of the film ''Clambake'' and its soundtrack in 1967, music enthusiasts saw him as a joke during this time, and his former fans saw him as a has-been. His comeback special inspired a CareerResurrection, and while he never again enjoyed the mega-stardom he had in TheFifties, by the time he died in 1977 he had regained his position as pop music royalty.
26th Oct '17 8:42:02 PM TheRedRedKroovy
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* The peak of Music/ElvisPresley's career ended when he was drafted into the US Army in 1958, but when he completed his service in 1960, he seemed poised for a comeback. Unfortunately, his manager Colonel Tom Parker pushed him into a film career, which saw him star in a long string of StrictlyFormula musical comedies that, while mostly successful at the box office, were almost universally panned by critics. Worse, the heavy production schedule (he was making two or three movies a year for the whole of TheSixties) was cutting into his music career. Most of the hits he had in the '60s came from the soundtracks to his movies, which were met with diminishing returns by mid-decade, and until his comeback special in 1968, he did not perform live after 1961 and only recorded one album of non-soundtrack music after 1962. Music enthusiasts saw him as a joke during this time, and his former fans saw him as a has-been. His comeback special inspired a CareerResurrection, and while he never again enjoyed the mega-stardom he had in TheFifties, by the time he died in 1977 he had regained his position as pop music royalty.

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* The peak of Music/ElvisPresley's career ended when he was drafted into the US Army in 1958, but when he completed his service in 1960, he seemed poised for a comeback. Unfortunately, his manager Colonel Tom Parker pushed him into a film career, which saw him star in a long string of StrictlyFormula musical comedies that, while mostly successful at the box office, were almost universally panned by critics. Worse, the heavy production schedule (he was making two or three movies a year for the whole of TheSixties) was cutting into his music career. Most of the hits he had in the '60s came from the soundtracks to his movies, which were met with diminishing returns by starting mid-decade, and until his comeback special in 1968, he did not perform live after 1961 and only recorded one album of non-soundtrack music after 1962. Music enthusiasts saw him as a joke during this time, and his former fans saw him as a has-been. His comeback special inspired a CareerResurrection, and while he never again enjoyed the mega-stardom he had in TheFifties, by the time he died in 1977 he had regained his position as pop music royalty.
26th Oct '17 8:38:34 PM TheRedRedKroovy
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* By the end of The '50s, Rock 'n' Roll all but died, in part because of a form of Author Existence Failure due to Elvis being drafted into the army, popular performers like Buddy Holly and Eddie Cochran dying in accidents, Little Richard abandoning the music in favor of religion, Jerry Lee Lewis being ostracized for marrying a teenage cousin, Bill Haley focusing on middle of the road instrumental and Country music, and Chuck Berry going to jail. As the 1960s began, things weren't much better as Elvis got reduced to starring in a string of less-than-stellar films and the Rock 'n' Roll genre in general being reduced to one novelty tune after another (such as The Twist). It took the Brits, previously alien towards rock, but inspired by Haley, Elvis, Berry and the others to revive it and refine its form. One of these bands, rather obviously, was The Beatles.

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* By the end of The '50s, Rock 'n' Roll TheFifties, RockAndRoll in general had all but died, in part because of a form of Author Existence Failure due AuthorExistenceFailure as the genre's stars all saw their careers come to Elvis being a halt in one way or another. Music/ElvisPresley was drafted into the army, popular performers like Buddy Holly Music/BuddyHolly and Eddie Cochran dying Music/EddieCochran died in accidents, Little Richard abandoning Music/LittleRichard became born again and abandoned the music in favor of religion, Jerry Lee Lewis being genre, Music/JerryLeeLewis was ostracized for marrying a teenage cousin, Bill Haley focusing on middle of the road moved to middle-of-the-road instrumental and Country music, {{country music}}, and Chuck Berry going Music/ChuckBerry went to jail. As prison. In the 1960s began, things weren't much better as early '60s, Elvis got reduced to starring in a string of less-than-stellar films was entering his own Dork Age (see below), and the Rock rest of rock 'n' Roll genre in general being roll had been reduced to one novelty tune after another (such as The Twist). It took [[TheBritishInvasion the Brits, Brits]], previously alien towards rock, rock but inspired by Haley, Elvis, Berry Berry, and the others others, to revive it and refine its form. One of these bands, rather obviously, was The Beatles.Music/TheBeatles.


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* The peak of Music/ElvisPresley's career ended when he was drafted into the US Army in 1958, but when he completed his service in 1960, he seemed poised for a comeback. Unfortunately, his manager Colonel Tom Parker pushed him into a film career, which saw him star in a long string of StrictlyFormula musical comedies that, while mostly successful at the box office, were almost universally panned by critics. Worse, the heavy production schedule (he was making two or three movies a year for the whole of TheSixties) was cutting into his music career. Most of the hits he had in the '60s came from the soundtracks to his movies, which were met with diminishing returns by mid-decade, and until his comeback special in 1968, he did not perform live after 1961 and only recorded one album of non-soundtrack music after 1962. Music enthusiasts saw him as a joke during this time, and his former fans saw him as a has-been. His comeback special inspired a CareerResurrection, and while he never again enjoyed the mega-stardom he had in TheFifties, by the time he died in 1977 he had regained his position as pop music royalty.
25th Oct '17 8:15:54 AM TheRedRedKroovy
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* Two come to mind with Music/EltonJohn: 1977-1982, when his lyricist Bernie Taupin had little or no influence on the albums of that period, his sales slowed, he dabbled in [[DeaderThanDisco disco]] for an album just as the style grew out of fashion, and his albums in general were of an inconsistent quality, and 1985-1990, where Taupin was more involved, but Elton's music became overly produced and synth-heavy, much of the classic '70s Elton John Band who backed him in his 1983-84 period were fired and replaced by session musicians, and Elton's [[SexDrugsAndRockAndRoll drug and alcohol habits]], bulimia, and [[AnythingThatMoves reckless love life]] were taking a toll on him.

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* Two come to mind with Music/EltonJohn: Music/EltonJohn.
** The first is
1977-1982, when his lyricist Bernie Taupin had little or no influence on the albums of that period, his sales slowed, he dabbled in [[DeaderThanDisco disco]] {{disco}} for an album just as the style [[DeaderThanDisco grew out of fashion, fashion]], and his albums in general were of an inconsistent quality, and quality.
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1985-1990, where Taupin was more involved, but Elton's music became overly produced and synth-heavy, much of the classic '70s Elton John Band who backed him in his 1983-84 period were fired and replaced by session musicians, and Elton's [[SexDrugsAndRockAndRoll drug and alcohol habits]], bulimia, and [[AnythingThatMoves reckless love life]] were taking a toll on him.him.
* Music/LadyGaga's 2013 album ''Artpop'' was criticized as a case of her coasting on her success. With the SynthPop sound she pioneered having blown up into the mainstream since her debut, sticking to her old formula and resting on the tropes of ''The Fame'' and ''Born This Way'' was seen as a case of SeinfeldIsUnfunny at best and a creative rut at worst. The mixed response caused Gaga to fade from the limelight in the mid-'10s, working on smaller projects such as a collaboration with Tony Bennett and stabs at an acting career, before making a comeback in 2016-17 with her NewSoundAlbum ''Joanne'' and a well-received UsefulNotes/SuperBowl halftime performance.
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