History DorkAge / LiveActionTV

28th Mar '17 10:14:27 PM Twentington
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** The show returned in 1999, at which point the Dork Age reached its peak. A brand-new, modern set was created and the new host was Louie Anderson, a gravel-voiced, overweight comedian who never looked like he wanted to be there. Plus, the game removed the round with double point values, opting for the Single-Single-Single-Triple format with the top scorer playing Fast Money. To make matters worse, teams were allowed only one strike in the Triple Round (meaning clearing the board in that round required a FlawlessVictory) and it became a one-and-done game. The only good thing that came out of this was the doubling of the Fast Money prize to $20,000 in 2001, something Anderson actually advocated. Louie was ousted a year later (something he didn't take well, predicting ''Feud'' would be canceled within the next year, which it wasn't), but his replacement, Richard Karn wasn't that much better. Though the returning champs format was reinstated and a more conventional "play to 300 points" main game replaced the high-scoring/one-strike-in-triple-round/no-double-round in 2003, Karn's NoIndoorVoice, stiff hosting style, and over-reliance on NoIndoorVoice "I'm ''doubling the points''!" catch-phrases became unbearable.

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** The show returned in 1999, at which point the Dork Age reached its peak. A brand-new, modern set was created and the new host was Louie Anderson, a gravel-voiced, overweight comedian who never looked like he wanted to be there. Plus, the game removed the round with double point values, opting for the Single-Single-Single-Triple format with the top scorer playing Fast Money. To make matters worse, teams were allowed only one strike in the Triple Round (meaning clearing the board in that round required a FlawlessVictory) and it became a one-and-done game. The only good thing that came out of this was the doubling of the Fast Money prize to $20,000 in 2001, something Anderson actually advocated. Louie was ousted a year later (something he didn't take well, predicting ''Feud'' would be canceled within the next year, which it wasn't), but his replacement, Richard Karn wasn't that much better. Though the returning champs format was reinstated and a more conventional "play to 300 points" main game replaced the high-scoring/one-strike-in-triple-round/no-double-round in 2003, Karn's NoIndoorVoice, stiff hosting style, and over-reliance on NoIndoorVoice "I'm ''doubling the points''!" catch-phrases became unbearable.
23rd Mar '17 9:36:26 PM KoopaKid17
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*** 2010 onward: A general NoBudget feel, as the BonusRound is often a contrived answer that seems to beg for a loss no matter what letters the contestants pick; Prize Puzzles, 1/2 Car tags, and Express becoming GoldenSnitch-level {{Game Breaker}}s; decreased enthusiasm from the studio audience (even with an applause machine, there is almost never any reaction anymore whenever a contestant lands on the top dollar amount); poor puzzle writing in the main game (particularly the aforementioned Prize Puzzles, which often blatantly telegraph what the contestant will win); the death of Charlie O'Donnell in late 2010, followed by a barrage of substitutes (many of whom were dubbed over Charlie on episodes that taped before his death but had not yet aired); increasingly sloppy editing.

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*** 2010 onward: A general NoBudget feel, as the BonusRound is often a contrived answer that seems to beg for a loss no matter what letters the contestants pick; Prize Puzzles, 1/2 Car tags, and Express becoming GoldenSnitch-level {{Game Breaker}}s; decreased enthusiasm from the studio audience (even with an applause machine, there is almost never any reaction anymore whenever a contestant lands on the top dollar amount); poor puzzle writing in the main game (particularly the aforementioned Prize Puzzles, which often blatantly telegraph what the contestant will win); the death of Charlie O'Donnell in late 2010, followed by a barrage of substitutes (many of whom were [[TheOtherMarty dubbed over Charlie on episodes that taped before his death but had not yet aired); aired]]); increasingly sloppy editing.
9th Mar '17 7:32:13 AM VoxAquila
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** The [[SeasonalRot infamous sixth season]] is frequently regarded as a DorkAge for the titular heroine, in which her [[spoiler:traumatic resurrection from heaven]] is explored so realistically that she loses all her (previously characteristic) warmth, passion, sense of humor and interest in the world around her, becoming a pale and often unwatchable imitation of her former self. The supporting cast doesn't get it much better, either: Willow's magic addiction metaphor is simultaneously {{anvilicious}} and a lore trainwreck given that it was never portrayed as such in prior episodes, Dawn's constant complaining got really annoying, the dissolution of Xander and Anya's marriage was forced, and Spike reached the depths of his BadassDecay, and the Trio's actions were just... stupid. At least Buffy had an excuse. Even the beloved "Once More with Feeling" couldn't save it.
** Season 7, considering the change of Buffy into a full-fledged KnightTemplar, Willow's [[BadassDecay inability to use magic]] for the better part of the season, Xander, Dawn, Anya ''and'' Giles getting virtually no [[TheArtifact character direction,]] having a textbook GenericDoomsdayVillain as the BigBad, the arrival of the [[TheScrappy insufferable]] Potentials, and Spike's total [[SpotlightStealingSquad eclipse of the whole show]]. Creator/JossWhedon has admitted that everyone working on the show was exhausted by that point, and it shows.
** Some also see the Season 8 and Season 9 comics as a continuation of the Season 7 Dork Age, as Buffy, while a bit more sane than in Six or Seven, is also more alienated from everyone, and in addition to this, the Slayer army is just irritating. On the other hand, these have given some great things, such as gay Dracula and Nick Fury Xander.

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** The UPN years are agreed to be a Dork Age by fans:
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The [[SeasonalRot infamous sixth season]] is frequently regarded as a DorkAge for the titular heroine, in which her [[spoiler:traumatic resurrection from heaven]] is explored so realistically that she loses all her (previously characteristic) warmth, passion, sense of humor and interest in the world around her, becoming a pale and often unwatchable imitation of her former self. The supporting cast doesn't get it much better, either: Willow's magic addiction metaphor is simultaneously {{anvilicious}} and a lore trainwreck given that it was never portrayed as such in prior episodes, Dawn's constant complaining got really annoying, the dissolution of Xander and Anya's marriage was forced, and Spike reached the depths of his BadassDecay, and the Trio's actions were just... stupid. At least Buffy had an excuse. Even In the beloved season's favor, it did give fans "Once More with Feeling" couldn't save it.
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Feeling,'' widely considered the show's best episode.
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Season 7, considering the change of Buffy into a full-fledged KnightTemplar, Willow's [[BadassDecay inability to use magic]] for the better part of the season, Xander, Dawn, Anya ''and'' Giles getting virtually no [[TheArtifact character direction,]] having a textbook GenericDoomsdayVillain as the BigBad, the arrival of the [[TheScrappy insufferable]] Potentials, and Spike's total [[SpotlightStealingSquad eclipse of the whole show]]. Creator/JossWhedon has admitted that everyone working on the show was exhausted by that point, and it shows.
** Some also see the Season 8 and Season 9 comics as a continuation of the Season 7 Dork Age, as Buffy, while a bit more sane than in Six or Seven, is also more alienated from everyone, and in addition to this, the Slayer army is just irritating. On the other hand, these have given some great things, such as gay Dracula and Nick Fury Xander.
5th Feb '17 8:13:04 PM DoctorNemesis
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* Season 4 of ''Series/{{Community}}'' (aka the one Dan Harmon wasn't the showrunner for) is generally regarded as this. Many characters underwent {{Flanderization}}, with some being defined solely by a single joke (Abed has AmbiguousDisorder! The Dean is a WholesomeCrossdresser!), or worse, no joke at all, with Troy hitting near-SatelliteCharacter levels and Pierce being increasingly DemotedToExtra (and let's not even talk about the ''actual'' extras). [[BizarroEpisode "Concept" episodes]] became both more common and considerably less interesting, and the references slid from ViewersAreGeniuses to LowestCommonDenominator. More than that, though, a lot of the plotlines felt slack and uninteresting, with Troy and Britta suffering a major ShippingBedDeath as the writers fumbled with giving them actual chemistry, and Chang's FakingAmnesia plot being about as obvious and hackneyed as they came. Finally, many prior jokes and storylines were brought back as FanService... and they certainly felt like it, with the [[CaptainErsatz Inspector]] [[Series/DoctorWho Spacetime]] joke being completely run into the ground. The finale, which brought back a concept that'd been lampshaded as old and forced ''an entire season prior'', was [[http://www.avclub.com/tvclub/community-advanced-introduction-to-finality-97134 roundly critically thrashed]], with many saying its AllJustADream ending was the only redeeming factor. A few shots were taken at it in-universe with reference to the "gas-leak year".

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* Season 4 of ''Series/{{Community}}'' (aka the one Dan Harmon wasn't the showrunner for) is generally regarded as this. Many characters underwent {{Flanderization}}, with some being defined solely by a single joke (Abed has AmbiguousDisorder! The Dean is a WholesomeCrossdresser!), or worse, no joke at all, with Troy hitting near-SatelliteCharacter levels and Pierce being increasingly DemotedToExtra (and let's not even talk about the ''actual'' extras). [[BizarroEpisode "Concept" episodes]] became both more common and considerably less interesting, and the references slid from ViewersAreGeniuses to LowestCommonDenominator. More than that, though, a lot of the plotlines felt slack and uninteresting, with Troy and Britta suffering a major ShippingBedDeath as the writers fumbled with giving them actual chemistry, and Chang's FakingAmnesia plot being about as obvious and hackneyed as they came. Finally, many prior jokes and storylines were brought back as FanService... and they certainly felt like it, with the [[CaptainErsatz Inspector]] [[Series/DoctorWho Spacetime]] joke being completely run into the ground. This meant that the show essentially began to suffer from TheyChangedItNowItSucks ''and'' ItsTheSameNowItSucks simultaneously. The finale, which brought back a concept that'd been lampshaded as old and forced ''an entire season prior'', was [[http://www.avclub.com/tvclub/community-advanced-introduction-to-finality-97134 roundly critically thrashed]], with many saying its AllJustADream ending was the only redeeming factor. A few shots were taken at it in-universe with reference to the "gas-leak year".
4th Feb '17 5:54:09 PM Reimen
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** Then from Season 18 (''Survivor: Tocantins'') to the present, it became highly obvious that the editors were having ''way'' too much fun accentuating certain players they like, turning them into [[CreatorsPet Creator's Pets]] and everyone else into {{living prop}}s. These favorites were usually crazy and delusional or just arrogant {{jerkass}}es. In a couple of these seasons, the other tribe members were TooDumbToLive, giving the CreatorsPet an easy ride to the finals. It's gotten so bad that fans sometimes wonder if there were backstage shenanigans, either purposely casting bad players to make things easy for the ones the editors liked best, or setting up challenges that play to their strengths. On top of that, some of these seasons had twists that did nothing to add drama and suspense, and in the case of season 22 (''Survivor: Redemption Island'') may have even undermined it by causing conflict between the players that were already out instead of the ones still subject to the vote.

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** Then from Season season 18 (''Survivor: Tocantins'') to season 27 (''Survivor: Blood vs. Water''), the present, it became highly obvious that the editors were having ''way'' too much fun accentuating certain players they like, turning them into editing would [[CreatorsPet Creator's Pets]] and everyone else into {{living prop}}s. These favorites were usually crazy and delusional frequently be dominated]] by crazy, delusional, or just arrogant {{jerkass}}es. In a couple of these seasons, the [[{{Jerkass}} jerkasses]], leaving [[CannonFodder other tribe members were TooDumbToLive, invisible until their elimination]]. Oftentimes, the tribes members [[IdiotBall made bone-headed mistakes]] or [[{{Wangst}} got too stressed to continue playing]], giving the CreatorsPet an easy ride to the finals. It's gotten so bad that fans sometimes wonder if there were backstage shenanigans, either purposely casting bad players to make things easy for the ones the editors liked best, or setting up challenges that play to their strengths. On top of that, some of these seasons had twists that did nothing to add drama and suspense, and in especially the case of season 22 (''Survivor: Redemption Island'') may have even undermined it by causing Island twist, which spent precious time on conflict between the players that who were already out instead of the ones still subject to the vote.vote. The dork age finally ended with season 28 (''Survivor: Cagayan''), which added more GenreSavvy players to balance the idiots, the emotional wrecks, and the jerkass camera hogs.
26th Dec '16 8:02:47 PM PaulA
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* The 2007 ''Series/FlashGordon'' TV series has been viewed as a Dork Age by many fans, particularly for the extent to which it toys with the characters' mythos and familiar aspects. To cite one example, Ming the Merciless is white, has a full head of hair, is clean-shaven, wears a western-style military uniform, is only rarely called "the Merciless", and derives his authority over Mongo from ''owning the water company''. Some things benefit from a clearer, less {{Values Dissonan|ce}}t and more realistic interpretation, but ''Flash Gordon'' is not one of them.

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* The 2007 ''Series/FlashGordon'' ''Series/{{Flash Gordon|2007}}'' TV series has been viewed as a Dork Age by many fans, particularly for the extent to which it toys with the characters' mythos and familiar aspects. To cite one example, Ming the Merciless is white, has a full head of hair, is clean-shaven, wears a western-style military uniform, is only rarely called "the Merciless", and derives his authority over Mongo from ''owning the water company''. Some things benefit from a clearer, less {{Values Dissonan|ce}}t and more realistic interpretation, but ''Flash Gordon'' is not one of them.
21st Dec '16 6:51:01 PM MyFinalEdits
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** The Neo-Saban Johnathan Tzachor seasons are widely considered a new Dork Age. Consisting of ''Series/PowerRangersSamurai'' (and ''Super Samurai'') and ''Series/PowerRangersMegaforce'' (and ''Super Megaforce''), these seasons were loaded with non-existent characters, direct copying of the Sentai without any context or sense, dialogue that was childish even by Power Rangers standards, and a slew of other problems that all came to a head in a massively disappointing Anniversary Season. So far the new season, ''Series/PowerRangersDinoCharge'', headed by former PR writer Judd Lynn, seems to be fixing many of the issues fans had with the last four years. Unfortunately, "seems" is the right word here, because ''Dino Supercharge'', despite being a slight improvement over ''Samurai'' and ''Megaforce'', still isn't considered a good season by many fans.

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** The Neo-Saban Johnathan Tzachor seasons are widely considered a new Dork Age. Consisting of ''Series/PowerRangersSamurai'' (and ''Super Samurai'') and ''Series/PowerRangersMegaforce'' (and ''Super Megaforce''), these seasons were loaded with non-existent characters, direct copying of the Sentai without any context or sense, dialogue that was childish even by Power Rangers standards, and a slew of other problems that all came to a head in a massively disappointing Anniversary Season. So far the new season, The season ''Series/PowerRangersDinoCharge'', headed by former PR writer Judd Lynn, seems attempted to be fixing fix many of the issues fans had with the last four years. Unfortunately, "seems" is the right word here, because ''Dino Supercharge'', despite being a slight improvement over ''Samurai'' and ''Megaforce'', years, but still isn't considered a good season by many fans.
21st Dec '16 2:43:26 PM Dark_Lord_
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** The Neo-Saban Johnathan Tzachor seasons are widely considered a new Dork Age. Consisting of ''Series/PowerRangersSamurai'' (and ''Super Samurai'') and ''Series/PowerRangersMegaforce'' (and ''Super Megaforce''), these seasons were loaded with non-existent characters, direct copying of the Sentai without any context or sense, dialogue that was childish even by Power Rangers standards, and a slew of other problems that all came to a head in a massively disappointing Anniversary Season. So far the new season, ''Series/PowerRangersDinoCharge'', headed by former PR writer Judd Lynn, seems to be fixing many of the issues fans had with the last four years.

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** The Neo-Saban Johnathan Tzachor seasons are widely considered a new Dork Age. Consisting of ''Series/PowerRangersSamurai'' (and ''Super Samurai'') and ''Series/PowerRangersMegaforce'' (and ''Super Megaforce''), these seasons were loaded with non-existent characters, direct copying of the Sentai without any context or sense, dialogue that was childish even by Power Rangers standards, and a slew of other problems that all came to a head in a massively disappointing Anniversary Season. So far the new season, ''Series/PowerRangersDinoCharge'', headed by former PR writer Judd Lynn, seems to be fixing many of the issues fans had with the last four years. Unfortunately, "seems" is the right word here, because ''Dino Supercharge'', despite being a slight improvement over ''Samurai'' and ''Megaforce'', still isn't considered a good season by many fans.
28th Oct '16 6:15:32 PM KamenRiderKrypton
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** The second half of the Literature/DoctorWhoNewAdventures when everything got so much DarkerAndEdgier it was difficult to recognize it as ''Who'', Ace was converted into a NinetiesAntiHero, the Doctor was increasingly flipping between being a DemotedToExtra PinballProtagonist or a [[DesignatedHero batshit insane]] Machiavellian KnightTemplar [[DarknessInducedAudienceApathy it was difficult to root for]], and many of the best writers of the [[{{Camp}} Frocks]] crowd, like Paul Cornell or Gareth Roberts, had stopped writing books for the line. TV companions from earlier eras like Liz Shaw and Dodo were getting StuffedIntoTheFridge in {{Narm}}fully mean-spirited ways while others were getting {{Revision}}ed as child rape survivors or catching space-STDs, and production problems led to ''So Vile a Sin'', the book that killed off a companion, coming out ''after'' the books in which she was dead.

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** The second half of the Literature/DoctorWhoNewAdventures when everything got so much DarkerAndEdgier it was difficult to recognize it as ''Who'', Ace was converted into a NinetiesAntiHero, the Doctor was increasingly flipping between being a DemotedToExtra PinballProtagonist or a [[DesignatedHero batshit insane]] Machiavellian KnightTemplar [[DarknessInducedAudienceApathy it was difficult to root for]], and many of the best writers of the [[{{Camp}} Frocks]] crowd, like Paul Cornell or Gareth Roberts, had stopped writing books for the line. TV companions from earlier eras like Liz Shaw and Dodo were getting StuffedIntoTheFridge in {{Narm}}fully mean-spirited ways while others were getting {{Revision}}ed as child rape survivors or catching space-STDs, space-[=STDs=], and production problems led to ''So Vile a Sin'', the book that killed off a companion, coming out ''after'' the books in which she was dead.
7th Oct '16 9:03:05 AM MyFinalEdits
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* The ninth season of ''Series/TwoAndAHalfMen'', produced following the public meltdown and departure of Creator/CharlieSheen, is largely considered this due to much worse writing and extreme {{Flanderization}}: Alan becoming more immature and an even bigger mooch, Jake smoking pot and becoming even more stupid, Rose becoming more a bitch, Lindsay becoming crazier, and Berta being the only character who's stayed consistent so far. The tone is completely different, there's a much greater emphasis on ToiletHumour that's more gross than funny, and the biggest problem of all, Charlie's replacement Walden -- a character that's too thin to cut it as a supporting character, let alone a replacement for Charlie Harper. He's little more than a rich and more immature version of Alan and his interactions with the other characters feel very forced and unnatural, which isn't so much Ashton Kutcher's fault, he looks like he's really trying, but the lousy material gives him almost nothing to work with. Any way you slice it, this season is ''Series/TwoAndAHalfMen'' InNameOnly. The remaining seasons improved somewhat by retooling the humor in a way that clearly took inspiration from ''Series/TheBigBangTheory'' (which at least was more appropriate than the toilet humor, given that Walden was meant to be a technology mogul), but it never again reached the levels of popularity it had in Seasons 1-8, and eventually ended with a widely-reviled finale that mostly just took childish pot-shots at Sheen.

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* The ninth season of ''Series/TwoAndAHalfMen'', produced following the public meltdown and departure of Creator/CharlieSheen, is largely considered this due to much worse writing and extreme {{Flanderization}}: Alan becoming more immature and an even bigger mooch, Jake smoking pot and becoming even more stupid, Rose becoming more a bitch, Lindsay becoming crazier, and Berta being the only character who's stayed consistent so far. The tone is completely different, there's a much greater emphasis on ToiletHumour that's more gross than funny, ToiletHumour, and the biggest problem of all, Charlie's replacement Walden -- a character that's too thin to cut it as a supporting character, let alone a replacement for Charlie Harper. He's is little more than a rich and more immature version of Alan and his interactions with the other characters feel very forced and unnatural, which isn't so much Ashton Kutcher's fault, he looks like he's really trying, but the lousy material gives him almost nothing to work with. Any way you slice it, this season is ''Series/TwoAndAHalfMen'' InNameOnly. unnatural. The remaining seasons improved somewhat by retooling the humor in a way that clearly took inspiration from ''Series/TheBigBangTheory'' (which at least was more appropriate than the toilet humor, given that Walden was meant to be a technology mogul), but it never again reached the levels of popularity it had in Seasons 1-8, and eventually ended with a widely-reviled finale that mostly just took childish pot-shots at Sheen.
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