History DorkAge / LiveActionTV

21st Aug '16 7:43:34 PM haloinsider
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* ''Series/TheDailyShow'' is usually held to have fallen into one after Creator/JonStewart left in 2015. His replacement Trevor Noah caused a BrokenBase among fans, and more importantly, most of the supporting talent (Creator/StephenColbert, Creator/JohnOliver, Samantha Bee, Larry Widmore) followed Stewart and [[BreakupBreakout launched their own shows]], some of which (most notably Oliver's ''Series/{{Last Week Tonight|With John Oliver}}'' and Bee's ''Full Frontal'') are considered to be [[SpiritualSuccessor the true heirs]] to the Stewart-era ''Daily Show'' by fans.

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* ''Series/TheDailyShow'' is usually held to have fallen into one after Creator/JonStewart left in 2015. His replacement Trevor Noah caused a BrokenBase among fans, and more importantly, most of the supporting talent (Creator/StephenColbert, Creator/JohnOliver, Samantha Bee, Larry Widmore) Wilmore) followed Stewart and [[BreakupBreakout launched their own shows]], some of which (most notably Oliver's ''Series/{{Last Week Tonight|With John Oliver}}'' and Bee's ''Full Frontal'') are considered to be [[SpiritualSuccessor the true heirs]] to the Stewart-era ''Daily Show'' by fans.
20th Aug '16 9:51:55 AM KamenRiderKrypton
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** Seasons 22-24 are probably the era with most consensus: The then-producer, Nathan-Turner, would often insist on choosing new, rookie writers over seasoned writers who had worked on the series before, ExecutiveMeddling caused the series to become first DarkerAndEdgier before swerving suddenly into LighterAndSofter territory, the budget was nearly nonexistent, and the entirety of Season 23 was dedicated to the tedious and intrusive "Trial of a Time Lord" storyline/framing device. The show recovered with some standout writing and characterization in Seasons 25 and 26, but the ratings and budget were still rock-bottom and led to the show finally getting axed.

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** Seasons 22-24 are probably the era with most consensus: The then-producer, John Nathan-Turner, would often insist on choosing new, rookie writers over seasoned writers who had worked on the series before, ExecutiveMeddling caused the series to become first DarkerAndEdgier before swerving suddenly into LighterAndSofter territory, the budget was nearly nonexistent, and the entirety of Season 23 was dedicated to the tedious and intrusive "Trial of a Time Lord" storyline/framing device. The show recovered with some standout writing and characterization in Seasons 25 and 26, but the ratings and budget were still rock-bottom and led to the show finally getting axed.
15th Aug '16 10:02:09 AM TheRedRedKroovy
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* ''Series/TheDailyShow'' is usually held to have fallen into one after Creator/JonStewart left in 2015. His replacement Trevor Noah caused a BrokenBase among fans, and more importantly, most of the supporting talent (Creator/StephenColbert, Creator/JohnOliver, Samantha Bee) followed Stewart and launched their own shows, some of which (most notably Oliver's ''Series/{{Last Week Tonight|With John Oliver}}'' and Bee's ''Full Frontal'') are considered to be [[SpiritualSuccessor the true heirs]] to the Stewart-era ''Daily Show'' by fans.

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* ''Series/TheDailyShow'' is usually held to have fallen into one after Creator/JonStewart left in 2015. His replacement Trevor Noah caused a BrokenBase among fans, and more importantly, most of the supporting talent (Creator/StephenColbert, Creator/JohnOliver, Samantha Bee) Bee, Larry Widmore) followed Stewart and [[BreakupBreakout launched their own shows, shows]], some of which (most notably Oliver's ''Series/{{Last Week Tonight|With John Oliver}}'' and Bee's ''Full Frontal'') are considered to be [[SpiritualSuccessor the true heirs]] to the Stewart-era ''Daily Show'' by fans.
15th Aug '16 8:01:47 AM TheRedRedKroovy
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* ''Series/TheDailyShow'' is usually held to have fallen into one after Creator/JonStewart left in 2015. His replacement Trevor Noah caused a BrokenBase among fans, and more importantly, most of the supporting talent (Creator/StephenColbert, Creator/JohnOliver, Samantha Bee) followed Stewart and launched their own shows, some of which (most notably Oliver's ''Series/{{Last Week Tonight|With John Oliver}}'' and Bee's ''Full Frontal'') are considered to be [[SpiritualSuccessor the true heirs]] to the Stewart-era ''Daily Show'' by fans.
27th Jul '16 11:34:57 AM Sapphirea2
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** However, seasons 22-24 are probably the era with most consensus: The then-producer, Nathan-Turner, would often insist on choosing new, rookie writers over seasoned writers who had worked on the series before, ExecutiveMeddling caused the series to become first DarkerAndEdgier before swerving suddenly into LighterAndSofter territory, the budget was nearly nonexistent, and the entirety of season 23 was dedicated to a tedious and intrusive storyline/framing device. The show recovered with some standout writing and characterization in seasons 25 and 26, but the ratings and budget was still rock-bottom and led to the show finally getting axed.

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** However, seasons Seasons 22-24 are probably the era with most consensus: The then-producer, Nathan-Turner, would often insist on choosing new, rookie writers over seasoned writers who had worked on the series before, ExecutiveMeddling caused the series to become first DarkerAndEdgier before swerving suddenly into LighterAndSofter territory, the budget was nearly nonexistent, and the entirety of season Season 23 was dedicated to a the tedious and intrusive "Trial of a Time Lord" storyline/framing device. The show recovered with some standout writing and characterization in seasons Seasons 25 and 26, but the ratings and budget was were still rock-bottom and led to the show finally getting axed.



** Series 6 Part 2 of the revival is considered this by a lot of the fandom. The Silence will Fall story arc was very well-received in Series 5, which is still widely thought of as the best series of the Moffat era. However in Series 6 the story arc became more confusing and the series finale was regarded as unsatisfying and still leaving a lot of the storyline unexplained. Series 7 is also thought of as this, trying to move away from the story arc but introducing another story arc that linked to this, with the whole Silence will Fall arc getting wrapped up quickly in the 2013 Christmas Special.

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** Series 6 Part 2 of the revival ("Let's Kill Hitler" through "The Wedding of River Song") is considered this by a lot of the fandom. The Silence will Fall "Silence Will Fall" story arc was very well-received in Series 5, which introduced the Eleventh Doctor and is still widely thought of as the best series of the Moffat era. However era. But in Series 6 the story arc became more confusing confusing, and the series finale SeasonFinale was regarded as unsatisfying and still leaving a lot -- in part because it left ''a lot'' of the storyline unexplained. From there, Series 7 is also thought of as this, trying tried to move away from the story Silence arc, but then introduced the related Great Intelligence/Impossible Girl arc in its second half. The Silence arc was ''finally'' wrapped up in the post-season ChristmasEpisode, but it was an underwhelming end for Eleven. In addition, there is an argument over at SeasonalRot that Series 8, the Twelfth Doctor's first season, continued this dork age -- it was not only introducing another a DarkerAndEdgier, older-looking Doctor but also locking down his companion's personality (Clara spent Series 7 Part 2 as more puzzle than consistently characterized person) and running into a RomanticPlotTumor and a too-gloomy story arc that linked to this, with the whole Silence will Fall arc getting wrapped up quickly in the 2013 Christmas Special.process. (GrowingTheBeard took place in Series 9.)
30th Jun '16 3:47:30 PM MrThorfan64
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** Series 6 Part 2 of the revival is considered this by a lot of the fandom. The Silence will Fall story arc was very well-received in Series 5, which is still widely thought of as the best series of the Moffat era. However in Series 6 the story arc became more confusing and the series finale was regarded as unsatisfying and still leaving a lot of the storyline unexplained. Series 7 is also thought of as this, trying to move away from the story arc but introducing another story arc that linked to this, with the whole Silence will Fall arc getting wrapped up quickly in the 2013 Christmas Special.
12th Jun '16 4:21:46 AM asten
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* ''Series/HerculesTheLegendaryJourneys'' (and, to a lesser extent, ''Series/XenaWarriorPrincess'') started to drift into dorky territory sometime after its first two seasons. People tend to forget that the series was a spinoff from a string of successful made-for-TV action-adventure movies that were more or less played straight, sometimes brutally so. And while the TV show itself always had undertones of {{camp}}iness (particularly in its attempt to shoehorn Hercules into every ancient legend that had not featured him in the first place), at least that was a level of camp that made sense within the series's universe.\\
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Where they really dropped the ball is adding way too many self-indulgences: grossly stereotyped characters, gratuitous slapstick, and especially AnachronismStew (relying on the RuleOfFunny, of course). It became really hard after a while to enjoy ''Hercules'' as a serious action show. Arguably even more damaging was the decision to introduce the concept of monotheism in both ''Hercules'' and ''Xena''; while this allowed the writers to cook up intriguing NinjaPirateZombieRobot scenarios (such as bringing in the story of David and Goliath), it violated the original polytheistic mythology that Christian, Jewish, and Muslim viewers could take as pure fantasy.
21st Apr '16 4:52:07 PM TheRedRedKroovy
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* For fans of scripted series, the early-mid 2000s are often held to be a Dork Age for television as a whole, as it was the decade when RealityTV first became a serious phenomenon. While the era still produced a great many well-remembered scripted series on both the broadcast networks (''Series/{{Lost}}'', ''Series/ThirtyRock'', ''Series/TheOfficeUS'') and on cable (''Series/BattlestarGalactica2003'', ''Series/TheWire'', ''Series/TheShield'', ''Series/ItsAlwaysSunnyInPhiladelphia''), it seemed that not a day went by when a scripted show risked getting ScrewedByTheNetwork in favor of a cheaper-to-produce reality show. The decade is littered with innumerable TooGoodToLast shows that barely limped to the end of their first seasons, as well as specialty cable networks that underwent severe NetworkDecay as they tried to chase the reality TV dollar. This turned around in a big way starting in the late '00s when cable networks led by Creator/{{HBO}}, Creator/{{FX}}, and Creator/{{AMC}}, as well as the streaming service Creator/{{Netflix}}, started premiering critically-acclaimed hits that demonstrated that scripted series still had a lot of life, to the point where TheNewTens have been called a GoldenAge for television; the main concern now is that there are ''too many'' great shows for the average viewer to [[ArchivePanic keep up with]]. It helped that, around the same time, reality TV started falling into a Dork Age of its own (see below).



*** 2010 onward: A general NoBudget feel, as the BonusRound is often a contrived answer that seems to beg for a loss no matter what letters the contestants pick; Prize Puzzles, 1/2 Car tags, and Express becoming GoldenSnitch-level {{Game Breaker}}s; decreased enthusiasm from the studio audience (even with an applause machine, there is almost never any reaction anymore whenever a contestant lands on the top dollar amount); poor puzzle writing in the main game (particularly the aforementioned Prize Puzzles, which often blatantly telegraph what the contestant will win); the death of Charlie O'Donnell in late 2010, followed by a barrage of substitutes (many of whom were dubbed over Charlie on episodes that taped before his death but had not yet aired); increasingly sloppy editing

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*** 2010 onward: A general NoBudget feel, as the BonusRound is often a contrived answer that seems to beg for a loss no matter what letters the contestants pick; Prize Puzzles, 1/2 Car tags, and Express becoming GoldenSnitch-level {{Game Breaker}}s; decreased enthusiasm from the studio audience (even with an applause machine, there is almost never any reaction anymore whenever a contestant lands on the top dollar amount); poor puzzle writing in the main game (particularly the aforementioned Prize Puzzles, which often blatantly telegraph what the contestant will win); the death of Charlie O'Donnell in late 2010, followed by a barrage of substitutes (many of whom were dubbed over Charlie on episodes that taped before his death but had not yet aired); increasingly sloppy editingediting.
* RealityTV in general seems to have fallen into one in the 2010s. Once producers had figured out every interesting concept for a reality show that wasn't [[DeadlyGame flat-out]] [[ImmoralRealityShow illegal]] to show on air, they began running the most commercially successful ones into the ground, producing variations on the same basic concept that always seemed more staged than the last. Old hits began faltering, with few new ones to take their place. While the reality TV boom had television critics wringing their hands in the '00s, now it's mostly relegated to a small handful of minor cable networks.
3rd Apr '16 3:32:00 PM MrThorfan64
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* Season 5 of ''Series/AGameOfThrones'' is very controversial due to being a CompressedAdaptation of the [[Literature/AFeastForCrows fourth]] and [[Literature/ADanceWithDragons fifth]] books. One storyline is widely depised by both sides is the Dorne arc due to being IdiotPlot with all the characters involved in that arc and the portrayal of the Sand Snakes who are regarded by all sides of the fandom as [[TheScrappy the worst characters]] in the show due to being StupidEvil, their FightSceneFailure with Jaime and Bronn and their {{Narm}}-stastic lines ([[MemeticMutation "You want a good girl but you need a bad pussy"]]). Another storyline which received much contention is Sansa's story where instead of being a BastardUnderstudy of Littlefinger [[spoiler:after helping him lied about her aunt Lysa Tully's death]], she was forced to marry [[spoiler:Ramsey Bolton, making her a CompositeCharacter to her AdaptedOut friend from the books, Jeyne Poole, and was raped by him during their wedding night]]. There's also how Stannis' arc was handled [[spoiler:particularly with him burning his daughter to appease R'hllor]]. And despite that the show won for "Best Drama Series" at the 2015 Emmys, some cynical viewers believed that it's a ConsolationAward for the previous seasons.

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* Season 5 of ''Series/AGameOfThrones'' is very controversial due to being a CompressedAdaptation of the [[Literature/AFeastForCrows fourth]] and [[Literature/ADanceWithDragons fifth]] books. One storyline is widely depised by both sides is the Dorne arc due to being IdiotPlot with all the characters involved in that arc and the portrayal of the Sand Snakes who are regarded by all sides of the fandom as [[TheScrappy the worst characters]] in the show due to being StupidEvil, their FightSceneFailure with Jaime and Bronn and their {{Narm}}-stastic lines ([[MemeticMutation "You want a good girl but you need a bad pussy"]]). Another storyline which received much contention is Sansa's story where instead of being a BastardUnderstudy of Littlefinger [[spoiler:after helping him lied lie about her aunt Lysa Tully's death]], she was forced to marry [[spoiler:Ramsey Bolton, making her a CompositeCharacter to her AdaptedOut friend from the books, Jeyne Poole, and was raped by him during their wedding night]]. night]], which is basically the only thing adapted from the Bolton storyline of the books, cutting out the various conspiracies among the Northern Houses. There's also how Stannis' arc was handled [[spoiler:particularly with him burning his daughter to appease R'hllor]].R'hllor, then getting ignominiously defeated by the Boltons and killed by Brienne, especially as he is still alive in the books]]. And despite that the show won for "Best Drama Series" at the 2015 Emmys, some cynical viewers believed that it's a ConsolationAward for the previous seasons.
22nd Feb '16 3:25:27 PM Discar
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* Season 5 of ''Series/HowIMetYourMother'' is widely reviled for the mishandling of the Barney/Robin pairing and their first break-up. After the break-up came [[TheScrappy Don]], who is said to "the guy who will marry Robin" except he's a jerk and is [[CharacterShrilling shrilled by the main cast]] for being [[InformedAbility funny and smart etc]]. The only positive thing about this season is "Girls VS. Suits" which introduced some very important information about the Mother and Barney's awesome dance number. Later on, Season 6 attempted to repair damage by introducing arcs of Lily and Marshall's attempts to concieve, Barney meeting his real father and Ted trying to choose between career and love.

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* Season 5 of ''Series/HowIMetYourMother'' is widely reviled for the mishandling of the Barney/Robin pairing and their first break-up. After the break-up came [[TheScrappy Don]], who is said to "the guy who will marry Robin" except he's a jerk and is [[CharacterShrilling shrilled [[CharacterShilling shilled by the main cast]] for being [[InformedAbility funny and smart etc]]. The only positive thing about this season is "Girls VS. Suits" which introduced some very important information about the Mother and Barney's awesome dance number. Later on, Season 6 attempted to repair damage by introducing arcs of Lily and Marshall's attempts to concieve, Barney meeting his real father and Ted trying to choose between career and love.
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