History Discontinuity / WesternAnimation

26th Oct '17 10:39:57 PM LancelotG
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** Unsurprisingly, the [[ThePowerpuffGirls2016 2016 reboot]], known for a full ArtShift, error-prone animation, almost zero involvement from its original cast and crew (including recast voices for the three girls), and [[TotallyRadical many, many]] [[WereStillRelevantDammit fumbling attempts to be current]], has not gained much of a foothold with hardcore fans of the original, although it has its fans among the younger generation.
24th Oct '17 8:29:20 AM 123456789
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** "Saddlesore Galactica" and "Kill the Alligator and Run" aren't well-liked and are considered the reasons why ''The Simpsons'' hasn't been funny in ages, though "Saddlesore Galactica" is more divided, as some people (and the Simpsons writers) see the episode more as a surreal [[SelfDeprecation piss-take against The Simpsons' own decline in quality due to repetitive storylines and exaggerated characterizations]]. "Kill the Alligator and Run," on the other hand, doesn't have that luxury of being re-seen as a ParodyRetcon and is often put on Internet lists for "Worst Simpsons Episode Ever".

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** "Saddlesore Galactica" and "Kill the Alligator and Run" aren't well-liked and are considered the reasons why ''The Simpsons'' hasn't been funny in ages, though "Saddlesore Galactica" is more divided, as some people (and the Simpsons writers) see the episode more as a surreal [[SelfDeprecation [[TakeThatMe piss-take against The Simpsons' own decline in quality due to repetitive storylines and exaggerated characterizations]]. "Kill the Alligator and Run," on the other hand, doesn't have that luxury of being re-seen as a ParodyRetcon and is often put on Internet lists for "Worst Simpsons Episode Ever".characterizations]].



** Some fans treat "Lisa the Vegetarian" as this, not for being bad (it's considered genuinely funny), but that they feel this episode started Lisa's eventual {{Flanderization}} into a SoapboxSadie (which it was, due to Paul [=McCartney=] only agreeing to do the episode if Lisa stayed vegetarian for the rest of the show's run. The fans saw it as a sign that the Simpsons' writers were kissing the asses of the guest stars they let on the show).

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** Some fans treat Crossing with FranchiseOriginalSin on this example, "Lisa the Vegetarian" as this, sometimes gets this treatment, not for being bad (it's considered genuinely funny), but that they feel this episode started for starting Lisa's eventual {{Flanderization}} into a SoapboxSadie (which it was, (the reason being due to Paul [=McCartney=] only agreeing to do the episode if Lisa stayed vegetarian for the rest of the show's run. The fans saw it as a sign that the Simpsons' writers were kissing the asses of the guest stars they let on the show).run).



** "Homer vs. Dignity" is hated by many for sinking to ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy''-cum-''WesternAnimation/SouthPark''-esque levels of vulgar humor (though the same can be said for a lot of episodes from Mike Scully's era of being show-runner). The panda rape scene crosses the line into DudeNotFunny territory with sickening abandon; rarely does a two-minute scene turn an otherwise unremarkable episode into one of the most-hated in the show's history and a regular on "Worst Simpsons Episode" lists.
** The Al Jean episodes are hated just as much, only for different reasons namely, being boring, derivative, full of forced humor, and carrying an air of WereStillRelevantDammit due to dated pop culture jokes. In fact, it's just safe to say that anything after season 8 on ''The Simpsons'' is a mixed bag at best, but has ''some'' good moments in it, though those have been getting rare since season 13.

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** "Homer vs. Dignity" is hated by many for sinking to ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy''-cum-''WesternAnimation/SouthPark''-esque levels of vulgar humor (though the same can be said for a lot of episodes from Mike Scully's era tenure as showrunner is hated by some due to the show's blatant use of ''Family Guy''-cum-''South Park''-esque levels of VulgarHumor. The shining example being show-runner). The panda rape the infamous Panda Rape scene in "Homer vs. Dignity", which crosses the line into DudeNotFunny tastelessness territory with a dash of sickening abandon; rarely does a two-minute scene turn an otherwise unremarkable episode into one of the most-hated in the show's history and a regular on "Worst Simpsons Episode" lists.
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** The Al Jean episodes are hated just as much, only for different reasons namely, being boring, derivative, full of forced humor, and carrying an air of WereStillRelevantDammit due to dated pop culture jokes. In fact, it's just safe to say that anything after season 8 on ''The Simpsons'' is a mixed bag at best, but has ''some'' good moments references, and the constant dueling with ''FamilyGuy'' in it, though those have been getting rare since season 13.FOX's lineup.



** "Lisa Goes Gaga" esentially played out like a Simpsons-Lady Gaga crossover fanfiction. While there have episodes with celebrity guest stars before on the show, this was literally 20 minutes of nothing but Lady Gaga having her ass kissed, which may have been great for her fans, but not to people who aren't really into her music. It's especially grating when you consider that some of the other famous iconic guest stars on the show like Music/PaulMcCartney, Creator/ElizabethTaylor, or Creator/KirkDouglas, only appeared in small cameo roles or parts that only took up one-third of the episode's plot. The episode rehashed a lot of jokes about Lady Gaga that have been done before (and done better elsewhere) and received some backlash from fans.

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** One of the biggest complains of "Lisa Goes Gaga" esentially played out like a Simpsons-Lady was how much screentime Lady Gaga crossover fanfiction. While there have episodes with got as opposed to other celebrity guest stars before on (only Mel Gibson had a comparable amount of screentime to her), to the show, this was literally 20 minutes of nothing but Lady Gaga having her ass kissed, which may have been great for her fans, but not to people who aren't really into her music. It's especially grating when you consider that some of the other famous iconic guest stars on the show like Music/PaulMcCartney, Creator/ElizabethTaylor, or Creator/KirkDouglas, only appeared in small cameo roles or parts that only took up one-third of point where the episode's plot. The episode rehashed absurdity resembles a lot of jokes about Lady Gaga that have been done before (and done better elsewhere) and received some backlash from fans.CrackFic.



** Some fans don't consider any of the permanent character deaths to be canon. This includes the death of Maude in "Alone Again, Natura-Diddily", Snowball II in "I, (Annoyed Grunt)-Bot", Fat Tony in "Donnie Fatso", and Edna Krabappel after [[TheCharacterDiedWithHim Marcia Wallace's own death]]. With some of these deaths, the narrative pretends they never happened either.
** Comic Book Guy getting married to a Japanese woman after he acted like a disgusting MightyWhitey was highly disliked due to it portraying Asian fetisihism in a positive light.

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** Some fans don't consider any of the permanent character deaths to be canon. This includes the death of Maude in "Alone Again, Natura-Diddily", Snowball II in "I, (Annoyed Grunt)-Bot", Fat Tony in "Donnie Fatso", and Edna Krabappel after in "The Man Who Grew Too Much" (after [[TheCharacterDiedWithHim Marcia Wallace's own death]].death]]). With some of these deaths, the narrative pretends they never happened either.
** Comic Book Guy getting married to a Japanese woman after he acted like a disgusting MightyWhitey was highly disliked due to it [[UnfortunateImplications portraying Asian fetisihism fetishism in a positive light.light]].



** "Gorgeous Grampa" included an offensive caricature of transgender people, Marge hoping Grampa is gay so she can look more progressive, a ''Series/StorageWars'' parody, and a major SeriesContinuityError by presenting Mr. Burns as a fan of Abraham. It was established in "The Curse of the Flying Hellfish" that the two were mortal enemies since WWII.

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** Among other things the episode "Gorgeous Grampa" included included, like an offensive caricature of transgender people, Marge hoping Grampa is gay so she can look more progressive, and a ''Series/StorageWars'' parody, and the episode also included a major SeriesContinuityError by presenting Mr. Burns as a fan of Abraham. It Abraham, when it was established in "The Curse of the Flying Hellfish" that the two were mortal enemies since WWII.
8th Oct '17 8:41:04 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** Even Poof fans hate Sparky, Timmy's new magical talking fairy dog. There's also a new girl named Chloe Carmichael appearing in the tenth season (with Poof mostly absent in favor of her; Sparky [[Main/PutOnABus was removed due to negative reception]]) and fans are not pleased. Instead of bringing back fan-favorites, they're demoting almost everyone to extras (including characters like Trixie and Tootie) and creating new ones to spice up the show.

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** Even Poof fans hate Sparky, Timmy's new magical talking fairy dog. There's also a new girl named Chloe Carmichael appearing in the tenth season (with Poof mostly absent in favor of her; Sparky [[Main/PutOnABus [[PutOnABus was removed due to negative reception]]) and fans are not pleased. Instead of bringing back fan-favorites, they're demoting almost everyone to extras (including characters like Trixie and Tootie) and creating new ones to spice up the show.
8th Oct '17 8:33:39 AM KagSwirby
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* ''WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants''
** Anything after {{the movie}} and {{uncancell|ed}}ation is often reviled and ignored, due to the original producers and writers leaving the series (including creator Stephen Hillenburg), and the series ultimately becoming a FranchiseZombie, especially considering that the movie was originally intended to be the series finale.

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* ''WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants''
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** Anything after {{the movie}} and {{uncancell|ed}}ation is often reviled and ignored, due to the original producers and writers leaving the series (including creator Stephen Hillenburg), and the series ultimately becoming a FranchiseZombie, especially considering that the movie was originally intended to be the series finale. The series has gotten better after the sequel though after Hillenburg's return.
8th Oct '17 8:27:16 AM KagSwirby
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** Even Poof fans hate Sparky, Timmy's new magical talking fairy dog. There's also a new girl named Chloe Carmichael appearing in the tenth season (and Sparky and Poof [[ChuckCunninghamSyndrome vanishing without explanation]]) and fans are not pleased. Instead of bringing back fan-favorites, they're demoting almost everyone to extras (including characters like Trixie and Tootie) and creating new ones to spice up the show.

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** Even Poof fans hate Sparky, Timmy's new magical talking fairy dog. There's also a new girl named Chloe Carmichael appearing in the tenth season (and (with Poof mostly absent in favor of her; Sparky and Poof [[ChuckCunninghamSyndrome vanishing without explanation]]) [[Main/PutOnABus was removed due to negative reception]]) and fans are not pleased. Instead of bringing back fan-favorites, they're demoting almost everyone to extras (including characters like Trixie and Tootie) and creating new ones to spice up the show.
30th Sep '17 3:19:54 PM Malady
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** "Gorgeous Grampa" included an offensive caricature of transgender people, Marge hoping Grampa is gay so she can look more progressive, a StorageWars parody, and a major SeriesContinuityError by presenting Mr. Burns as a fan of Abraham. It was established in "The Curse of the Flying Hellfish" that the two were mortal enemies since WWII.

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** "Gorgeous Grampa" included an offensive caricature of transgender people, Marge hoping Grampa is gay so she can look more progressive, a StorageWars ''Series/StorageWars'' parody, and a major SeriesContinuityError by presenting Mr. Burns as a fan of Abraham. It was established in "The Curse of the Flying Hellfish" that the two were mortal enemies since WWII.
25th Sep '17 4:26:49 PM Chris116
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** Many fans of ''Zombie Island'' ignore ''Cyber Chase'', ''Alien Invaders'', and ''The Witch's Ghost'' ([[EnsembleDarkhorse Hex Girls]] aside) as they're LighterAndSofter. Even some people who like them put them in a different continuity from ''Zombie Island'.'

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** Many fans of ''Zombie Island'' ignore ''Cyber Chase'', ''Alien Invaders'', and ''The Witch's Ghost'' ([[EnsembleDarkhorse Hex Girls]] aside) as they're LighterAndSofter. Even some people who like them put them in a different continuity from ''Zombie Island'.'Island'' (though ''The Witch's Ghost'' does contain a brief ContinuityNod to ''Zombie Island'').
25th Sep '17 10:13:46 AM Erin582
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* As far as ''Franchise/MastersOfTheUniverse'' fans are concerned, there have been only two He-Man cartoons, the [[WesternAnimation/HeManAndTheMastersOfTheUniverse1983 one released]] in 1983 and the [[WesternAnimation/HeManAndTheMastersOfTheUniverse2002 one produced]] nineteen years later. That [[WesternAnimation/TheNewAdventuresOfHeMan one cartoon]] featuring Adam of Greyskull and where He-Man shouted [[ByThePowerOfGreyskull "By the Power of]] ''[[ByThePowerOfGreyskull Eternia"?]]'' It never happened.
20th Sep '17 4:17:50 AM Krabby
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* Some longtime ''WesternAnimation/XiaolinShowdown'' refuse to consider the sequel series ''WesternAnimation/XiaolinChronicles'' as canon due to network change, more [[DenserAndWackier comedic tones]], changes to the names of many of the Shen Gon Wu magic items, {{retcon}}s, extreme {{flanderization}} of the cast, inclusion of the new character [[TheScrappy Ping-Pong]], lack of the original voice cast and production moving to Canada.

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* Some longtime ''WesternAnimation/XiaolinShowdown'' fans refuse to consider the sequel series ''WesternAnimation/XiaolinChronicles'' as canon due to network change, more [[DenserAndWackier comedic tones]], changes to the names of many of the Shen Gon Wu magic items, {{retcon}}s, extreme {{flanderization}} of the cast, inclusion of the new character [[TheScrappy Ping-Pong]], lack of the original voice cast and production moving to Canada.



* Most fans of both ''{{WesternAnimation/Futurama}}'' and ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' ignore the CrossOver special "Simpsonrama" for various reasons, like implying the Futurama universe is a CrapsackWorld BadFuture.

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* Most fans of both ''{{WesternAnimation/Futurama}}'' and ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' ignore the CrossOver special "Simpsonrama" "Simpsorama" for various reasons, like implying the Futurama universe is a CrapsackWorld BadFuture.
20th Sep '17 4:11:23 AM Krabby
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** The SequelSeries, ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'', has a very mixed reception. It was first billed as a quick mini-series, then a single season, then multi-seasons ALL DURING PRE-PRODUCTION. Some see it as a faithful follow-up to the original series, while aothers do not. Fans take issue with either certain elements (the {{Steampunk}}/GangsterLand setting rather than MedievalStasis being most prevalent), the somewhat rapid establishment and changing of the LoveTriangle between first Mako/Korra/Bolin then Korra/Mako/Asami, and the characters being less compelling overall. There are some groups that deny the entire series exists, because they think it contradicts the established canon of ATLA, their ships from the original series were officially sunk, and they think it is written poorly when compared to the original series.

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** The SequelSeries, ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'', has a very mixed reception. It was first billed as a quick mini-series, then a single season, then multi-seasons ALL DURING PRE-PRODUCTION. Some see it as a faithful follow-up to the original series, while aothers others do not. Fans take issue with either certain elements (the {{Steampunk}}/GangsterLand setting rather than MedievalStasis being most prevalent), the somewhat rapid establishment and changing of the LoveTriangle between first Mako/Korra/Bolin then Korra/Mako/Asami, and the characters being less compelling overall. There are some groups that deny the entire series exists, because they think it contradicts the established canon of ATLA, their ships from the original series were officially sunk, and they think it is written poorly when compared to the original series.
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