History DieForOurShip / ComicBooks

27th May '16 2:19:01 PM Doug86
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* The LoveTriangle [[HeroesWantRedheads Jean Grey]] / [[TheStoic Cyclops]] / Wolverine from ''Comicbook/{{X-Men}}'' has long been a complicated storm of controversy. Many fans have shipped ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} /Jean Grey since the day Wolverine joined the X-Men, but Marvel has long refused to give into fan demands. So fans engage in Scott ''and'' Jean bashing. Marvel has also changed Comicbook/{{Cyclops}} (first [[spoiler: having him abandon his wife Madelyne Pryor and newborn son Nathan Summers, something not even ''Jean'' approved of]] and later [[spoiler: dealing with his post-traumatic astral possession stress by psychically sleeping with reformed villainess Emma Frost (who was also changed into a TsundereSue), who agreed to the sort of kinky sex/role-playing Jean refused to engage in -- while they portrayed Jean Grey as a [[PuritySue forgiving and enabling saint]] who ultimately gave her blessing to Scott and Emma on her deathbed)]]. Meanwhile, perhaps spurred by those who dislike the often [[DoubleStandard misogynistic views upon marriage]] that Marvel takes (that is, it's always the woman's fault if a marriage fails in a Marvel Comic), Marvel in recent years have portrayed Wolverine as [[spoiler: refusing to consider a relationship with Jean out of respect for Scott, even going as far as to reject a desperate Jean's advances when she confided to Wolverine that Scott was refusing to touch her sexually]]. So, the BadAss is "always right," and his love rival is "always wrong". <sigh>

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* The LoveTriangle [[HeroesWantRedheads Jean Grey]] / [[TheStoic Cyclops]] / Wolverine from ''Comicbook/{{X-Men}}'' ''Comicbook/XMen'' has long been a complicated storm of controversy. Many fans have shipped ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} /Jean Grey since the day Wolverine joined the X-Men, but Marvel has long refused to give into fan demands. So fans engage in Scott ''and'' Jean bashing. Marvel has also changed Comicbook/{{Cyclops}} (first [[spoiler: having him abandon his wife Madelyne Pryor and newborn son Nathan Summers, something not even ''Jean'' approved of]] and later [[spoiler: dealing with his post-traumatic astral possession stress by psychically sleeping with reformed villainess Emma Frost (who was also changed into a TsundereSue), who agreed to the sort of kinky sex/role-playing Jean refused to engage in -- while they portrayed Jean Grey as a [[PuritySue forgiving and enabling saint]] who ultimately gave her blessing to Scott and Emma on her deathbed)]]. Meanwhile, perhaps spurred by those who dislike the often [[DoubleStandard misogynistic views upon marriage]] that Marvel takes (that is, it's always the woman's fault if a marriage fails in a Marvel Comic), Marvel in recent years have portrayed Wolverine as [[spoiler: refusing to consider a relationship with Jean out of respect for Scott, even going as far as to reject a desperate Jean's advances when she confided to Wolverine that Scott was refusing to touch her sexually]]. So, the BadAss is "always right," and his love rival is "always wrong". <sigh>
13th May '16 8:27:43 AM Pichu-kun
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* The [[ArchieComics Archie]] ''[[Comicbook/SonicTheHedgehog Sonic]]'' fandom's attitude towards Sally Acorn gets this way from time to time with Sonic/Amy and Sonic/Mina fans, especially during Sally's {{Chickification}} stage a few years back. Whole [[{{Hatedom}} fan groups]] were dedicated to drawing/writing her getting [[{{Gorn}} murdered and mutilated]] in [[SeriousBusiness various ways]].

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The [[ArchieComics Archie]] ''[[Comicbook/SonicTheHedgehog Sonic]]'' fandom's attitude towards Sally Acorn gets this way from time to time with Sonic/Amy and Sonic/Mina fans, especially during Sally's {{Chickification}} stage a few years back. Whole [[{{Hatedom}} fan groups]] were dedicated to drawing/writing her getting [[{{Gorn}} murdered and mutilated]] in [[SeriousBusiness various ways]].ways]].
** Sally Acorn fans are known to bash Amy for her crush on Sonic and her fangirlish behavior, even in universes where Sally ''doesn't exist'' such as in the games or in ''WesternAnimation/SonicBoom''.



** There are also some people who feel Wally should date another fellow superhero in general, as opposed to BadassNormal Linda Park. One strange pairing is Wally West/Jesse Quick, which was even present in-universe; Jay Garrick says that a lot of Wally's friends hoped the two would get together. The two can't stand each other, but hey, Shipping Goggles.

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** There are also some people who feel Wally should date another fellow superhero in general, as opposed to BadassNormal Linda Park. One strange pairing is Wally West/Jesse Quick, which was even present in-universe; Jay Garrick says that a lot of Wally's friends hoped the two would get together. The two can't stand each other, but hey, Shipping Goggles.Goggles.
* ''Franchise/ArchieComics'' is well-known for the decades long BettyAndVeronica love triangle. Naturally this has occured:
** Betty has overwhelmingly become the preferred girl due to being a sweet GirlNextDoor. Betty/Archie fans who demonize Veronica as a SpoiledBrat and a RichBitch aren't uncommon. This even extends to [[ComicBook/AfterlifeWithArchie some]] [[Series/{{Riverdale}} adaptations]] that [[AdaptationalVillainy exaggerate]] her negative aspects.
** On the other side, some Veronica/Archie supporters will consider DumbBlonde and a {{yandere}}. Betty hasn't been that obsessive over Archie [[CharacterizationMarchesOn in decades]].
** Cheryl has been very controversial from the start due to being the ThirdOptionLoveInterest for Archie. Shippers often hate her for being a JerkAss or call her "too sexy".
24th Apr '16 9:04:09 AM XSpectreGreyX
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* When it comes to TheFlash, as detailed above, Wally West fans that don't accept Linda as his wife have preferred she'd get out of the way for their own favorite love interest. This can include such options as Raven, Magenta, or Donna Troy (who he had an unrequited crush for).

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* When it comes to TheFlash, as detailed above, Wally West fans that don't accept Linda as his wife have preferred she'd get out of the way for their own favorite love interest. This can include such options as Raven, Magenta, or Donna Troy (who he had an unrequited crush for).for).
** There are also some people who feel Wally should date another fellow superhero in general, as opposed to BadassNormal Linda Park. One strange pairing is Wally West/Jesse Quick, which was even present in-universe; Jay Garrick says that a lot of Wally's friends hoped the two would get together. The two can't stand each other, but hey, Shipping Goggles.
22nd Dec '15 11:54:18 AM Discar
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* The LoveTriangle [[HeroesWantRedheads Jean Grey]] / [[TheStoic Cyclops]] / [[AntiSue Wolverine]] from ''Comicbook/{{X-Men}}'' has long been a complicated storm of controversy. Many fans have shipped ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} /Jean Grey since the day Wolverine joined the X-Men, but Marvel has long refused to give into fan demands. So fans engage in Scott ''and'' Jean bashing. Marvel has also changed Comicbook/{{Cyclops}} (first [[spoiler: having him abandon his wife Madelyne Pryor and newborn son Nathan Summers, something not even ''Jean'' approved of]] and later [[spoiler: dealing with his post-traumatic astral possession stress by psychically sleeping with reformed villainess Emma Frost (who was also changed into a TsundereSue), who agreed to the sort of kinky sex/role-playing Jean refused to engage in -- while they portrayed Jean Grey as a [[PuritySue forgiving and enabling saint]] who ultimately gave her blessing to Scott and Emma on her deathbed)]]. Meanwhile, perhaps spurred by those who dislike the often [[DoubleStandard misogynistic views upon marriage]] that Marvel takes (that is, it's always the woman's fault if a marriage fails in a Marvel Comic), Marvel in recent years have portrayed Wolverine as [[spoiler: refusing to consider a relationship with Jean out of respect for Scott, even going as far as to reject a desperate Jean's advances when she confided to Wolverine that Scott was refusing to touch her sexually]]. So, the BadAss is "always right," and his love rival is "always wrong". <sigh>

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* The LoveTriangle [[HeroesWantRedheads Jean Grey]] / [[TheStoic Cyclops]] / [[AntiSue Wolverine]] Wolverine from ''Comicbook/{{X-Men}}'' has long been a complicated storm of controversy. Many fans have shipped ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} /Jean Grey since the day Wolverine joined the X-Men, but Marvel has long refused to give into fan demands. So fans engage in Scott ''and'' Jean bashing. Marvel has also changed Comicbook/{{Cyclops}} (first [[spoiler: having him abandon his wife Madelyne Pryor and newborn son Nathan Summers, something not even ''Jean'' approved of]] and later [[spoiler: dealing with his post-traumatic astral possession stress by psychically sleeping with reformed villainess Emma Frost (who was also changed into a TsundereSue), who agreed to the sort of kinky sex/role-playing Jean refused to engage in -- while they portrayed Jean Grey as a [[PuritySue forgiving and enabling saint]] who ultimately gave her blessing to Scott and Emma on her deathbed)]]. Meanwhile, perhaps spurred by those who dislike the often [[DoubleStandard misogynistic views upon marriage]] that Marvel takes (that is, it's always the woman's fault if a marriage fails in a Marvel Comic), Marvel in recent years have portrayed Wolverine as [[spoiler: refusing to consider a relationship with Jean out of respect for Scott, even going as far as to reject a desperate Jean's advances when she confided to Wolverine that Scott was refusing to touch her sexually]]. So, the BadAss is "always right," and his love rival is "always wrong". <sigh>
13th Dec '15 7:35:10 PM nombretomado
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** In typical Creator/MarkMillar fashion, ''[[UltimateXMen Ultimate X-Men]]'' had the "cool guy" Wolverine not only take Jean Grey's virginity, but also [[MurderTheHypotenuse STAB the nerdy, put-upon "loser" Ultimate Cyclops and leave him to die]] to ensure that Jean would be his and his alone. And the FanDumb ''rejoiced''!

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** In typical Creator/MarkMillar fashion, ''[[UltimateXMen Ultimate X-Men]]'' ''ComicBook/UltimateXMen'' had the "cool guy" Wolverine not only take Jean Grey's virginity, but also [[MurderTheHypotenuse STAB the nerdy, put-upon "loser" Ultimate Cyclops and leave him to die]] to ensure that Jean would be his and his alone. And the FanDumb ''rejoiced''!
10th Oct '15 12:44:31 PM nombretomado
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* ComicBook/GreenArrow is often vilified by Dinah/Babs shippers because of his and Dinah's relationship. They even bashed him when he was dead, but nowhere near as much as they've done since he was resurrected. It's just gotten worse since he and Dinah tied the knot, with Ollie's writers apparently liking to help the shippers with that. On the other hand, the other male in the picture, [[{{Nightwing}} Dick Grayson]], gets almost no abuse, but is rather roped into OneTrueThreesome ships.

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* ComicBook/GreenArrow is often vilified by Dinah/Babs shippers because of his and Dinah's relationship. They even bashed him when he was dead, but nowhere near as much as they've done since he was resurrected. It's just gotten worse since he and Dinah tied the knot, with Ollie's writers apparently liking to help the shippers with that. On the other hand, the other male in the picture, [[{{Nightwing}} [[ComicBook/{{Nightwing}} Dick Grayson]], gets almost no abuse, but is rather roped into OneTrueThreesome ships.
10th Oct '15 9:18:44 AM nombretomado
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** [[{{New52}} And now in the main verse too!]] Lois has been seeing someone else, so that means Superman can pursue a relationship with Wonder Woman.

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** [[{{New52}} [[ComicBook/{{New52}} And now in the main verse too!]] Lois has been seeing someone else, so that means Superman can pursue a relationship with Wonder Woman.
3rd Oct '15 3:32:26 PM StFan
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* [[DerailingLoveInterests This is actually]] ''[[DerailingLoveInterests canon]]'' for Lois Lane in many Elseworlds, where the writers are constantly offing her so that Superman can hook up with WonderWoman. One example is [[spoiler:{{ComicBook/KingdomCome}}]], in which [[spoiler:{{Joker}} kills Lois]]. This has been so jaw-droppingly overused and cliche, and the Supes/Wondy romances have traditionally been so appallingly badly developed (SturgeonsLaw dictates that most Elseworlds be pretentious original stories with superheroes' names shoehorned into the plot), that it has given rise to all sorts of massive UnfortunateImplications, from the general feeling that Diana spends her life stalking Supes while waiting for Lois to kick the bucket, to the FamilyUnfriendlyAesop that superheroes are vastly superior to us PunyHumans, and should not defile themselves by marrying one of our mortal female lumps of flesh.

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* [[DerailingLoveInterests This is actually]] ''[[DerailingLoveInterests canon]]'' for Lois Lane in many Elseworlds, where the writers are constantly offing her so that Superman can hook up with WonderWoman. One example is [[spoiler:{{ComicBook/KingdomCome}}]], [[spoiler:''ComicBook/KingdomCome'']], in which [[spoiler:{{Joker}} [[spoiler:SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker kills Lois]]. This has been so jaw-droppingly overused and cliche, and the Supes/Wondy romances have traditionally been so appallingly badly developed (SturgeonsLaw dictates that most Elseworlds be pretentious original stories with superheroes' names shoehorned into the plot), that it has given rise to all sorts of massive UnfortunateImplications, from the general feeling that Diana spends her life stalking Supes while waiting for Lois to kick the bucket, to the FamilyUnfriendlyAesop that superheroes are vastly superior to us PunyHumans, and should not defile themselves by marrying one of our mortal female lumps of flesh.
24th Sep '15 6:11:19 PM nombretomado
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* GreenArrow is often vilified by Dinah/Babs shippers because of his and Dinah's relationship. They even bashed him when he was dead, but nowhere near as much as they've done since he was resurrected. It's just gotten worse since he and Dinah tied the knot, with Ollie's writers apparently liking to help the shippers with that. On the other hand, the other male in the picture, [[{{Nightwing}} Dick Grayson]], gets almost no abuse, but is rather roped into OneTrueThreesome ships.

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* GreenArrow ComicBook/GreenArrow is often vilified by Dinah/Babs shippers because of his and Dinah's relationship. They even bashed him when he was dead, but nowhere near as much as they've done since he was resurrected. It's just gotten worse since he and Dinah tied the knot, with Ollie's writers apparently liking to help the shippers with that. On the other hand, the other male in the picture, [[{{Nightwing}} Dick Grayson]], gets almost no abuse, but is rather roped into OneTrueThreesome ships.
15th Sep '15 8:46:33 PM nombretomado
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** Exceptions: Steve Trevor due to GrandfatherClause (though he's not an option post-''CrisisOnInfiniteEarths''), Superman (although the presence of Lois means that's limited to Elseworlds), and Batman (for [[BadAss obvious]] [[EnsembleDarkhorse reasons]]).

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** Exceptions: Steve Trevor due to GrandfatherClause (though he's not an option post-''CrisisOnInfiniteEarths''), post-''ComicBook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths''), Superman (although the presence of Lois means that's limited to Elseworlds), and Batman (for [[BadAss obvious]] [[EnsembleDarkhorse reasons]]).
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