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3rd Dec '16 7:50:01 AM BGFU
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* Tropers/BGFU: "The Sinister Six" was pretty bad. It shouldn't be - it marks the first appearance of, well, Sinister Six, the famous team-up of Spidey's rogues, in this incarnation of Spider-Man. But unlike similar episodes in ''Spider-Man: The Animated Series'' and ''The Spectacular Spider-Man'', this one is just a huge mess. First of all, villain motivations are basically nonexistant. The only ones who actually have any reason to be there are Dr. Octopus and The Beetle. The Lizard turned back into Dr. Connors - but apparently Octopus found (or made?) more of the Lizard serum, just so his team can have a wild beast, who of course would only attack Spider-Man, and not any other team member that he would find a threat. But at least they gave some reason for Connors turning back into the Lizard. Electro doesn't get any explanation - at the end of his debut episode, he lost his extra-powers and transformed back into his weaker human form. But here he's back in his "Ultimate Electro" form, has extra-powers again, and no explanation is ever given as to why. The Rhino was remorseful for his actions and actually wanted to reform - but here all he wants is revenge on Spider-Man, once again, for no reason. And Kraven originally was after White Tiger, Spider-Man just helped her defeat him. If he's free now, why not go against her again? What does he care about Spider-Man? We may never know. Lack of motivations aside, this episode is also a disappointment, since The Sinister Six isn't very much of a threat, and Spidey is able to hold his own against six super-powered villains for an amount of time that's just enough for his teammates to arrive and help him. Not only this is a disappointment, but in the context of the series, this is bad writing, since in the very next episode Spidey gets defeated by three average criminals who only use some special armor.
1st Dec '16 6:58:26 PM Gojirob
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** Tropers/Gojirob: All of the above-mentioned Peanuts ones are horrible moments, but its a subtler one that often seems the most vicious to me. In 'It Was A Short Summer, Charlie Brown', exactly how does everyone end up at the same summer camp? Easy, Lucy signed them up for it! She announced on the last day of school while everyone was exulting in their soon-to-be ruined plans. Okay, Mssrs. Schulz and Mendelsohn. We know you were obsessed with making Lucy a KarmaHoudini so fearsome, Megan from Drake & Josh, Ruthie Camden and all the demonic sitcom sibs tell stories of her to scare each other. Got it. But now, you assign her RealityWarper powers? She was another minor child. Her signature was worthless, even for herself. And what about all their parents, some of whom likely had summer plans, and the money they must shell out, even for a low-cost or subsidized camp? Even a parent who wanted to get rid of their kid for the summer would tell them about it, just to have prep time and no delay in leaving. So Lucy couldn't have done the action that drove the special, one which not only ButtMonkey Charlie Brown and scared little brother Linus were affected by, but all their friends and classmates. I spent a good part of my childhood thinking other kids could just sign you up for stuff. It's not too much of a stretch to say this led thematically to 'First Kiss'.
28th Nov '16 2:14:05 PM IAmNotAFunguy
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* Topers/{{IAmNotAFunguy}}: I never really liked Cindy as a character because I thought she was bossy, arrogant, and materialistic (even though she's definitely had her positive moments), but the episode that really pushed me over was "The Science Fair Affair". In this episode Cindy successfully pushes to get Jimmy banned from the School Science Fair because he's beaten her (and everyone) every year in the past. On the day of the science fair everyone has inventions that are rather useless, including Cindy. Jimmy has designed a machine that grinds up garbage into a clean oil substitute which his father submits for a Nobel Prize. It all looks well for Jimmy until another kid messes up his machine and it nearly kills the science fair judges. Jimmy and Cindy instruct the others how to team up and destroy the machine and the judges decide to split First Prize among everybody whose invention helped stop Jimmy's machine, not Cindy whose invention was not used. Jimmy reminds her that by giving the group positive direction and making sure they all help out, she can feel the reward of personal satisfaction because she knows how to get a group to work together. Needless to say she doesn't take it well because some silly lesson like that was not the shiny gold medal she wanted. After all of the the kid who messed up Jimmy's machine in the first place is never in trouble. Also what was Cindy's invention? A machine that recycles rotten old gym socks into new sweaters, because who doesn't want a machine that can do that?
25th Nov '16 2:23:52 PM SomeoneImSure
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* {{@/SomeoneImSure}}: My DMOS was pretty early on, with the introduction of the Injustice Society, the so-called face for the Light. It wasn't even the supposedly "big reveal" at the end that did it. If the Light really wanted to cover themselves up, and I'm guessing they had been running underground for about four years now, they did a very poor job of it. Or, I should say, the writers did a very poor job of it. And I think a lot of what made the Justice League useless was also a healthy dose of that poor writing. Nothing was thought through when it came to ''how'' the Light even worked together, nor did anything feel properly built up! There's a big difference between trying to create something new and to reach new heights and just bungling the writing. This was bungling it. And don't get me started on M'gann, Aresenal, The Light and Lagoon Boy. It was potential taken in all the wrong directions.
* Tropers/{{CriticoMolesto}}: Disgraced Ocean Master. Alright, for starters “5 years later” is a cheap, cheap trick. You can just skip a bunch of character development and interactions with a shrug just to change the dinamics with no actual efforts. I mean, yeah, we get Blue Beetle and Tim Drake and Impulse and Wonder Girl and… I dunno, Lagoon Boy? Cool. But that still doesn’t make up for the fact that they just pressed a big ol’ button and went “Fuck it”. They got bored and shook the 8-ball. Out of all the things that we missed in those five years, the one that has always stuck out to me is the whole “Disgraced Ocean Master”. Now, don’t get me wrong, I’m glad we got Manta on board and the whole story with Aqualad was good. Really. I don’t have a problem with them changing Orm for Manta. The real problem is the fact that they completely wasted a character. One of Aquaman’s main foes. The fucker is Aquaman’s half brother, controls his armies and wants him dead. How much weight do you think he has in a story? A lot, right? We could see maybe an infiltration. Perhaps some development on Aquaman, as he (and almost everyone else in the League, for that matter) gets almost no character to speak of. But no. Orm gets one appearace out of his suit, and then sits in a shadowy room the rest of the episodes and as far as my knowledge goes, doesn’t even get dialogue beyond the first episode he shows up. And the cherry on top, the real kicker here, is that one line. One fucking line. “That poor, disgraced Ocean Master”. OK, I’m gonna have to stop you right there, Teen Titans Dark. Disgraced? He did nothing to begin with! Queen Bee, Klarion, al Ghul, The Brain, all those fuckers do something at some point, but the half-brother of one of the League’s founding members, a heir to the throne of Atlantis, the (self-proclaimed) Master Of The Ocean, about 13 episodes worth of storytelling with this dude, gets booted, off-screen, and all we get is: Disgraced. The entire goddamn Time Skip summed up right here, luv.

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* {{@/SomeoneImSure}}: My DMOS It was pretty early on, with the introduction of the Injustice Society, the so-called face for the Light. It wasn't even the supposedly "big reveal" at the end that did it. If the Light really wanted hard to cover themselves up, and I'm guessing they had been running underground for about four years now, they did a very poor job of it. Or, I should say, the writers did a very poor job of it. And I think pinpoint my DMOS with this series because it 'does' have a lot of potential. My main beef with it is the animation. In pretty much every scene where there's more than one person on screen, there is usually more than one person standing around like a statue in the background. The DC Animation department is supposed to be leagues ahead of Marvel's and yet Marvel's Ultimate Spiderman is so much better at animating background characters simply walking down the streets of New York. This lack of animation (plus the lack of crowds and random people on the streets in later episodes) on the Young Justice's animation department creates a feeling of lifelessness in this world that's supposed to at least feel like it's alive. I can't get invested when no one on screen is invested in what made anyone is saying except the person saying it. Such as Speedy's denouncement of his mentor in the very first episode. Aquaman and Green Arrow are just standing there and staring until Speedy mentions that he knows about their HQ, then latter on while Speedy is talking to Green Arrow, Aquaman is just staring at him like he's not saying anything at all. Any scene where there's a crowd, expect most everyone to be stopped in time, even though they're supposed to be talking, moving, etc. The animation sucks. As for narrative, I cannot specifically pin down what exactly about the story offends me (mostly because a lot of unrelated things offend me) but the praise this show gets when it doesn't even have good animation is offensive to any self-respecting animator. I can look at youtube videos animated by Bronies and they are much better than this "professional animation". Admittedly, there are a few moments when the animation feels alive, but these are extremely rare. A scene in the second Season, when Miss Martian and Superboy are arguing in the Justice League useless was also a healthy dose of League's defense in an alien court room, and Miss Martian suddenly hugs Superboy and jumps around in excitement... that poor writing. Nothing was thought through is the best scene in the whole series when it came comes to ''how'' animation. It is the Light kind of animation I expected from the beginning. Instead, I get a crowd full of statues and a bunch of people doing nothing but standing or crouching around in the background doing nothing, not even worked together, nor did anything feel properly built up! There's a big difference between trying to create something new and to reach new heights and just bungling the writing. This was bungling it. And don't get me started on M'gann, Aresenal, The Light and Lagoon Boy. It was potential taken in all the wrong directions.
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* Tropers/{{CriticoMolesto}}: Disgraced Ocean Master. Alright, for starters “5 years later” is a cheap, cheap trick. You can just skip a bunch of character development and interactions with a shrug just to change the dinamics dynamics with no actual efforts. I mean, yeah, we get Blue Beetle and Tim Drake and Impulse and Wonder Girl and… I dunno, Lagoon Boy? Cool. But that still doesn’t make up for the fact that they just pressed a big ol’ button and went “Fuck it”. They got bored and shook the 8-ball. Out of all the things that we missed in those five years, the one that has always stuck out to me is the whole “Disgraced Ocean Master”. Now, don’t get me wrong, I’m glad we got Manta on board and the whole story with Aqualad was good. Really. I don’t have a problem with them changing Orm for Manta. The real problem is the fact that they completely wasted a character. One of Aquaman’s main foes. The fucker is Aquaman’s half brother, controls his armies and wants him dead. How much weight do you think he has in a story? A lot, right? We could see maybe an infiltration. Perhaps some development on Aquaman, as he (and almost everyone else in the League, for that matter) gets almost no character to speak of. But no. Orm gets one appearace out of his suit, and then sits in a shadowy room the rest of the episodes and as far as my knowledge goes, doesn’t even get dialogue beyond the first episode he shows up. And the cherry on top, the real kicker here, is that one line. One fucking line. “That poor, disgraced Ocean Master”. OK, I’m gonna have to stop you right there, Teen Titans Dark. Disgraced? He did nothing to begin with! Queen Bee, Klarion, al Ghul, The Brain, all those fuckers do something at some point, but the half-brother of one of the League’s founding members, a heir to the throne of Atlantis, the (self-proclaimed) Master Of The Ocean, about 13 episodes worth of storytelling with this dude, gets booted, off-screen, and all we get is: Disgraced. The entire goddamn Time Skip summed up right here, luv.
21st Nov '16 6:29:18 AM starofjusticev21
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** {{Tropers/starofjusticev21}}: As was somewhat hinted above this show always had a little problem with ProtagonistCenteredMorality: Ace and Lexi are the leaders of the team and "cool" and "funny," so they were were always right, where as Danger Duck was kind of a jerk and gloryhound, so he was always wrong. The episode of this show I can't forgive is the one where that problem exploded, “It Came From Outer Space.” In it Tech warns his teammates for the umpteen-millionth time that his crime fighting inventions aren’t toys and for the umpteen-millionth time they don’t listen with Rev and Lexi messing with something they think is a video game. It’s actually the controls to some kind of weapon system, and they just launched actual missiles at an actual spaceship just minding its own business. The owner, Melvin the Martian, rather understandably, actually, demands reparation after this unprovoked attack, and eventually agrees not to destroy the world if Lexi agrees to come aboard his ship and be his opponent in two-player games. Ace immediately refuses and says “you want a war, you’ll get one,” even after Tech does an analysis and basically says Melvin is packing enough ordinance to destroy the world ten times over and any attempt to fight him would be suicide. Danger Duck tries to get Ace to change his mind, and I get that he’s supposed to be chickening out and just trying to save his own skin. But consider that the Loonatics are the world’s superhero team who are supposed to save people from danger, not put them in even more danger. Yeah the show’s supposed to be a comedy but 99% of the time the superhero aspect is played totally straight; the Loonatics are treated as deserving every bit of trust and respect they get. I probably wouldn’t bat an eye if the show had gone for more of a ''WesternAnimation/MegasXLR'' vibe where the good guys are comedically incompetent and destructive, but it didn't do that, and we're evidently supposed to see this as them bravely standing by their friend no matter what, instead of facing up to a bad and thoughtless thing they did. I'm not saying Ace should've thrown his teammate and minimally established love interest to the wolves the first time she made a mistake, but this whole mess is the Loonatics' own fault, and by automatically deciding to fight it out Ace is endangering the whole planet he's supposed to be protecting over an extremely idiotic things his teammates totally did do. In the end when the Loonatics send Melvin running for the hills, the show treats it like their standard heroic victory over evil.

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** {{Tropers/starofjusticev21}}: As was somewhat hinted above this show always had a little problem with ProtagonistCenteredMorality: Ace and Lexi are the leaders of the team and "cool" and "funny," so they were were always right, where as Danger Duck was kind of a jerk and gloryhound, so he was always wrong. The episode of this show I can't forgive is the one where that problem exploded, “It Came From Outer Space.” In it Tech warns his teammates for the umpteen-millionth time that his crime fighting inventions aren’t toys and for the umpteen-millionth time they don’t listen with Rev and Lexi messing with something they think is a video game. It’s actually the controls to some kind of weapon system, and they just launched actual missiles at an actual spaceship just minding its own business. The owner, Melvin the Martian, rather understandably, actually, demands reparation after this unprovoked attack, and eventually agrees not to destroy the world if Lexi agrees to come aboard his ship and be his opponent in two-player games. Ace immediately refuses and says “you want a war, you’ll get one,” even after Tech does an analysis and basically says Melvin is packing enough ordinance to destroy the world ten times over and any attempt to fight him would be suicide. Danger Duck tries to get Ace to change his mind, and I get that he’s supposed to be chickening out and just trying to save his own skin. But consider that the Loonatics are the world’s superhero team who are supposed to save people from danger, not put them in even more danger. Yeah the show’s supposed to be a comedy but 99% of the time the superhero aspect is played totally straight; the Loonatics are treated as deserving every bit of trust and respect they get. I probably wouldn’t bat an eye if the show had gone for more of a ''WesternAnimation/MegasXLR'' vibe where the good guys are comedically incompetent and destructive, but it didn't do that, and we're evidently supposed to see this as them bravely standing by their friend no matter what, instead of facing up to a bad and thoughtless thing they did. I'm not saying Ace should've thrown his teammate and minimally established love interest to the wolves the first time she made a mistake, but this whole mess is the Loonatics' own fault, and by automatically deciding to fight it out Ace is endangering everyone on the whole planet he's supposed to be protecting over an extremely idiotic things thing his teammates totally did do. In the end when the Loonatics send Melvin running for the hills, the show treats it like their standard heroic victory over evil.do.
17th Nov '16 6:36:33 PM mightymewtron
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* Tropers/MightyMewtron: I considered putting "Bismuth" up here for its controversial message. But "Gem Harvest" is a ''double length episode'' that managed to introduce a more pointless and uncomfortable character to the show. We meet Greg's cousin Andy, who accuses Lapis and Peridot of being "hippies" who overtook his barn, calls the gems entitled, scorns at Greg for moving away and not marrying an American, and calls the Gems "illegal aliens". He's not even a [[FantasticRacism fantastic racist,]] as his lingo mirrors anti-immigrant ideology and he doesn't seem to know that the Gems are literally from outer space. Steven doesn't care that Andy is saying this to his family and believes, as usual, that he can change him by holding a feast. Most of the episode is filler (though at least all the Gems interact with one another) with Gems trying to act "more human", in the process ruining Andy's family heirloom (which he fumes over at first, then suddenly forgives them for?). Later Andy flies off, upset that nobody thanked him (even though he didn't help with the feast, and it was ''for him'') and because he doesn't like how everything is changing. Steven decides he's family anyway, and Andy never has to apologize for his insults towards the Gems. If the episode was about teaching Andy that the Gems are on Earth to save it and he shouldn't hate them on the basis of them being "un-American", or just educating him about not holding racist ideals, it wouldn't have been as bad, but it tried to act like having one feast with aliens would stop him from being racist- which, as far as we know, may not even be true. Not to mention the... [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement very awkward timing]] considering this was the first episode to air after the U.S. election. Also, the first part of the episode, [[TrailersAlwaysLie which was the only part in the advertising,]] had nothing to do with the rest of the plot, and the pumpkin pup was only there to look cute and fit the Thanksgiving theme.
8th Nov '16 8:15:49 AM dlchen145
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* Tropers/CyberTiger88: I'm a fan of ''WesternAnimation/BeastWars'' but the ending of the episode "Changing of the Guard" is flat-out painful to sit through. The episode has Rattrap and Silverbolt go retrieve [[McGuffin the Sentinel program]] from their ship while dealing with Inferno, and Depth Charge battles with his arch-foe Rampage. It eventully leads up to Depth Charge crashing into Silverbolt who has the module, leading to Inferno grabbing it, making the Maximals lose. This show is no stranger to TheBadGuyWins trope, but that's because of [[MagnificentBastard Megatron's]] planing. In this episode, the Maximals lost because of a bone-headed collision that would make ''Film/TheThreeStooges'' proud. If the writers wanted the audience to like Depth Charge as a {{badass}} loner despite his {{jerkass}}-tendencies, they shouldn't have made him cost the good guys an episode's worth of effort and cause a flat out cop-out.

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* Tropers/CyberTiger88: I'm a fan of ''WesternAnimation/BeastWars'' but the ending of the episode "Changing of the Guard" is flat-out painful to sit through. The episode has Rattrap and Silverbolt go retrieve [[McGuffin the Sentinel program]] from their ship while dealing with Inferno, and Depth Charge battles with his arch-foe Rampage. It eventully leads up to Depth Charge crashing into Silverbolt who has the module, leading to Inferno grabbing it, making the Maximals lose. This show is no stranger to TheBadGuyWins trope, but that's because of [[MagnificentBastard Megatron's]] planing. In this episode, the Maximals lost because of a bone-headed collision that would make ''Film/TheThreeStooges'' proud. If the writers wanted the audience to like Depth Charge as a {{badass}} badass loner despite his {{jerkass}}-tendencies, they shouldn't have made him cost the good guys an episode's worth of effort and cause a flat out cop-out.
6th Nov '16 1:21:16 AM CaptainTedium
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* Tropers/CaptainTedium: In general, I was always annoyed by the constant {{Take That}}s towards Creator/{{Disney}} and their works made by the comedy-oriented Warner Bros. cartoons of the 90's because their digs frequently came off as mean-spirited and petty, but for me, their absolute lowest dig at Disney was the ''Animaniacs'' short "Jokahontas", which parodied ''Disney/{{Pocahontas}}'' and featured a musical number accusing Disney of rehashing the same old story in every movie they made with a female protagonist. The thing is that the same episode had a short called "Wakko at the Bat", which was basically an imitation of the ''WesternAnimation/TinyToonAdventures'' short "Buster at the Bat" in that it was a retelling of the poem ''Casey at the Bat'' with the TwistEnding of the story avoiding the original poem's DownerEnding, so their accusations of Disney recycling the same old stories comes off as hypocritical.

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* Tropers/CaptainTedium: In general, I was always annoyed by the constant {{Take That}}s towards Creator/{{Disney}} and their works made by the comedy-oriented Warner Bros. cartoons of the 90's because their digs frequently came off as mean-spirited and petty, but for me, their absolute lowest dig at Disney was the ''Animaniacs'' short "Jokahontas", which parodied ''Disney/{{Pocahontas}}'' and featured a musical number accusing Disney of rehashing the same old story in every movie they made with a female protagonist. The thing is that the same episode had a short called "Wakko at the Bat", which was basically an imitation of the ''WesternAnimation/TinyToonAdventures'' short "Buster at the Bat" in that it was a retelling of the poem ''Casey at the Bat'' with the TwistEnding of the story avoiding the original poem's DownerEnding, so their accusations of Disney recycling the same old stories comes come off as rather hypocritical.
6th Nov '16 1:15:28 AM CaptainTedium
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* Tropers/CaptainTedium: In general, I was always annoyed by the constant {{Take That}}s towards Creator/Disney and their works made by the comedy-oriented Warner Bros. cartoons of the 90's because their digs frequently came off as mean-spirited and petty, but for me, their absolute lowest dig at Disney was the ''Animaniacs'' short "Jokahontas", which parodied ''Disney/{{Pocahontas}}'' and featured a musical number accusing Disney of rehashing the same old story in every movie they made with a female protagonist. The thing is that the same episode had a short called "Wakko at the Bat", which was basically an imitation of the ''WesternAnimation/TinyToonAdventures'' short "Buster at the Bat" in that it was a retelling of the poem ''Casey at the Bat'' with the TwistEnding of the story avoiding the original poem's DownerEnding, so their accusations of Disney recycling the same old stories comes off as hypocritical.

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* Tropers/CaptainTedium: In general, I was always annoyed by the constant {{Take That}}s towards Creator/Disney Creator/{{Disney}} and their works made by the comedy-oriented Warner Bros. cartoons of the 90's because their digs frequently came off as mean-spirited and petty, but for me, their absolute lowest dig at Disney was the ''Animaniacs'' short "Jokahontas", which parodied ''Disney/{{Pocahontas}}'' and featured a musical number accusing Disney of rehashing the same old story in every movie they made with a female protagonist. The thing is that the same episode had a short called "Wakko at the Bat", which was basically an imitation of the ''WesternAnimation/TinyToonAdventures'' short "Buster at the Bat" in that it was a retelling of the poem ''Casey at the Bat'' with the TwistEnding of the story avoiding the original poem's DownerEnding, so their accusations of Disney recycling the same old stories comes off as hypocritical.
6th Nov '16 1:14:23 AM CaptainTedium
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* Tropers/legomaniac90: The episode "I Got Yer Can" from ''WesternAnimation/{{Animaniacs}}'' starts out like your normal Slappy Squirrel segment with Slappy getting annoyed by a cleanliness-obsessed chipmunk, but then takes a turn for the worse when Slappy proceeds to ruin the poor chipmunk's health and sanity. The reason? [[DisproportionateRetribution Said chipmunk asked her to put a can in her trash receptacle]]. And Slappy gets away with it! [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop So remember kids, if someone asks you to do something that you don't like, feel free to turn them into insane wrecks for the heck of it!]]
** Tropers/newborncolt: You think that's bad? For me, Slappy Squirrel's big low point was the episode "Rest In Pieces". Long story short, Slappy's nemesis Walter Wolf [[MoralEventHorizon sinks to the ultimate low]] in his near-century-long wave of schemes to get rid of her by faking his own death in order to make everybody start hating her for doing everything she ever did to him, including her nephew! Are you fucking kidding me?! Never mind the fact that considering Skippy's age, he was naïve enough to buy this story, but the way he was so quick to accuse her of being a "murderer" nearly made me lose all sympathy for the kid! Not to mention the fact that this reaction is coming from somebody who has admired and looked up to his [[CoolOldLady awesome aunt]] and seen all her old cartoons long enough so sooner or later, he'd have to look past her nemeses' schemes! I can understand everybody else, especially those attending Walter's "funeral", being this hateful towards Slappy when Walter pulls such a stunt, but coming from her own nephew, the one who has little to no reason to doubt her through her years of experience, that is just terrible on so many levels! That entire reason alone is why I hate this episode with a passion! And I don't care that Walter got found out and chased away at the end; it does not save this episode from being this cruel to poor Slappy!
* Shadow200: In the short episode "Fake" Dr. Scartchansniff takes the Warners to a Wrestling match and is enjoying it, however Yakko, Wakko, and Dot get into an argument with him complaining that it's fake and they don't want to be here while heckling the wrestlers while he tries to get them to behave. Naturally the Wrestlers overhear them and believe that it was poor Scartchansniff who was calling them fake and drag him into the ring and beat the stuffing out of him whilst The Warner Siblings are now interested and enjoying watching an old men get pounded on. Seriously, what happened to them saying that they love him and while tease him never want to see him get hurt?
* Tropers/CaptainTedium: In general, I was always annoyed by the constant {{Take That}}s towards Creator/Disney and their works made by the comedy-oriented Warner Bros. cartoons of the 90's because their digs frequently came off as mean-spirited and petty, but for me, their absolute lowest dig at Disney was the ''Animaniacs'' short "Jokahontas", which parodied ''Disney/{{Pocahontas}}'' and featured a musical number accusing Disney of rehashing the same old story in every movie they made with a female protagonist. The thing is that the same episode had a short called "Wakko at the Bat", which was basically an imitation of the ''WesternAnimation/TinyToonAdventures'' short "Buster at the Bat" in that it was a retelling of the poem ''Casey at the Bat'' with the TwistEnding of the story avoiding the original poem's DownerEnding, so their accusations of Disney recycling the same old stories comes off as hypocritical.
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* Tropers/legomaniac90: The episode "I Got Yer Can" from ''WesternAnimation/{{Animaniacs}}'' starts out like your normal Slappy Squirrel segment with Slappy getting annoyed by a cleanliness-obsessed chipmunk, but then takes a turn for the worse when Slappy proceeds to ruin the poor chipmunk's health and sanity. The reason? [[DisproportionateRetribution Said chipmunk asked her to put a can in her trash receptacle]]. And Slappy gets away with it! [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop So remember kids, if someone asks you to do something that you don't like, feel free to turn them into insane wrecks for the heck of it!]]
** Tropers/newborncolt: You think that's bad? For me, Slappy Squirrel's big low point was the episode "Rest In Pieces". Long story short, Slappy's nemesis Walter Wolf [[MoralEventHorizon sinks to the ultimate low]] in his near-century-long wave of schemes to get rid of her by faking his own death in order to make everybody start hating her for doing everything she ever did to him, including her nephew! Are you fucking kidding me?! Never mind the fact that considering Skippy's age, he was naïve enough to buy this story, but the way he was so quick to accuse her of being a "murderer" nearly made me lose all sympathy for the kid! Not to mention the fact that this reaction is coming from somebody who has admired and looked up to his [[CoolOldLady awesome aunt]] and seen all her old cartoons long enough so sooner or later, he'd have to look past her nemeses' schemes! I can understand everybody else, especially those attending Walter's "funeral", being this hateful towards Slappy when Walter pulls such a stunt, but coming from her own nephew, the one who has little to no reason to doubt her through her years of experience, that is just terrible on so many levels! That entire reason alone is why I hate this episode with a passion! And I don't care that Walter got found out and chased away at the end; it does not save this episode from being this cruel to poor Slappy!
** Shadow200: In the short episode "Fake" Dr. Scartchansniff takes the Warners to a Wrestling match and is enjoying it, however Yakko, Wakko, and Dot get into an argument with him complaining that it's fake and they don't want to be here while heckling the wrestlers while he tries to get them to behave. Naturally the Wrestlers overhear them and believe that it was poor Scartchansniff who was calling them fake and drag him into the ring and beat the stuffing out of him whilst The Warner Siblings are now interested and enjoying watching an old men get pounded on. Seriously, what happened to them saying that they love him and while tease him never want to see him get hurt?
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