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* Grotadmorv: I'm a fan of the middle seasons (14-20), but "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS19E2HomerOfSeville Homer of Seville]]" just went too far. Marge doesn't want to cook and encourages her family to sneak into an event that's being catered (which is already an OutOfCharacterMoment). The family soon finds that it's a funeral. Bart goes up to the kid whose dad has just died and scams him out of 20 dollars, saying it's what his dad wanted him to do. What the heck? This isn't even funny, it's just really sad. That should've been an indicator to stop watching the episode, but when I made it to the halfway mark, it wasn't getting any better (it's full of BodyHorror and ParanoiaFuel). I didn't even bother to finish this one.


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* Tropers/{{Grotadmorv}}: "Clan of the Cave Mom" has a horrible JerkassBall moment for Marge that is never resolved. Marge gets into a feud with Luann Van Houten once she calls Bart a bad kid, and the two repeatedly try to one-up each other to defend their side of the argument. This escalates to Marge taking Bart to a concert she didn't want him to, just so he can get better seats than Milhouse. On the way there, she calls Homer and overhears Kirk's voice on the phone... then tells Homer, "You are dead to me!" They double down on this with the ''Primal''-style cut-ins showing Homer dying, and him still being dead in the final scene after Marge and Luann resolve their conflict. The thing is, Homer wasn't doing ''anything'' to warrant Marge saying something that awful to him. He was hanging out with Kirk to play fantasy football ''in a group with others''. So just because Marge is caught up in an irrational argument with Luann, Homer can't even talk to her husband about something that's completely unrelated? Not to mention that Homer was being legitimately nice and cooperative here, he spent an entire day refreshing various sites to get Bart these expensive VIP tickets in the first place. Marge never gets called out for this and she doesn't apologize, either. This just left a very bad taste in my mouth in an otherwise decent episode.

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* Tropers/{{TomT}}: There was one part of [[Recap/TheSimpsonsS29E05GrampyCanYaHearMe Grampy Can Ya Hear Me]] that made my blood boil, and that was the subplot with Principal Skinner and Agnes, which easily pushes the latter into my least favourite character of the show. So in a flashback, Principal Skinner is applying to become a director of a marching band, and the show goes out of its way to emphasise how this would be an opportunity most people would be happy to experience in a lifetime. He gets an acceptance letter, he gets his mother Agnes to read it to him, and at this point, I was thinking “She’s not going to… No, even a crotchety old hag like her would lie about whether he got in… right?” But nope. That hateful old crony lies to her son’s face about whether he got in to a college he was desperate to get into. At the very least, if she simply forbade him to go, she would be being upfront about it, but nope. This goes to show how, during this part of the show, the characters had no limit to the asshole-ish things they were willing to do (this is the same season in which Bart goes missing in a missile launch zone, which Milhouse knew about, and he decides to lie about whether he knows about this to Lisa just to win her sympathy). The worst part, though, is how Principal Skinner [[EasilyForgiven inexplicably forgives his mother]] for no reason at all. This episode wouldn’t have been as bad as it was if A) they didn’t emphasise the sheer amount of happiness and fulfilment Skinner would have received had it not been for his mother, and B) the episode had provided some CharacterDevelopment for Skinner - have him finally stand up to his mother, [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech tell her why he’s sick of her controlling every aspect of his life]], move out of her house, maybe even quit his job as principal to become a marching band director like he hoped, but nope, [[StatusQuoIsGod everything’s back to square one]] and Skinner still lives with his deceiving asshole ControlFreak of a mother, and I can never look at Agnes Skinner again without thinking of this moment.

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* Tropers/{{TomT}}: There was one part of [[Recap/TheSimpsonsS29E05GrampyCanYaHearMe Grampy Can Ya Hear Me]] that made my blood boil, and that was the subplot with Principal Skinner and Agnes, which easily pushes the latter into my least favourite character of the show. So in a flashback, Principal Skinner is applying to become a director of a marching band, and the show goes out of its way to emphasise how this would be an opportunity most people would be happy to experience in a lifetime. He gets an acceptance letter, he gets his mother Agnes to read it to him, and at this point, I was thinking “She’s not going to… No, even a crotchety old hag like her would lie about whether he got in… right?” But nope. That hateful old crony lies to her son’s face about whether he got in to a college he was desperate to get into. At the very least, if she simply forbade him to go, she would be being upfront about it, but nope. This goes to show how, during this part of the show, the characters had no limit to the asshole-ish things they were willing to do (this is the same season in which Bart goes missing in a missile launch zone, which Milhouse knew about, and he decides to lie about whether he knows about this to Lisa just to win her sympathy). The worst part, though, is how Principal Skinner [[EasilyForgiven inexplicably forgives his mother]] for no reason at all. This episode wouldn’t have been as bad as it was if A) they didn’t emphasise the sheer amount of happiness and fulfilment Skinner would have received had it not been for his mother, and B) the episode had provided some CharacterDevelopment for Skinner - have him finally stand up to his mother, [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech tell her why he’s sick of her controlling every aspect of his life]], move out of her house, maybe even quit his job as principal to become a marching band director like he hoped, but nope, [[StatusQuoIsGod everything’s back to square one]] and Skinner still lives with his deceiving asshole ControlFreak of a mother, and I can never look at Agnes Skinner again without thinking of this moment. Skinner may have forgiven his mother, but I sure haven't.
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* Grotadmorv: I've been tolerant with the show's SeasonalRot, but "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS19E2HomerOfSeville Homer of Seville]]" just went too far. Marge doesn't want to cook and encourages her family to sneak into an event that's being catered (which is already an OutOfCharacterMoment). The family soon finds that it's a funeral. Bart goes up to the kid whose dad has just died and scams him out of 20 dollars, saying it's what his dad wanted him to do. What the heck? This isn't even funny, it's just really sad. That should've been an indicator to stop watching the episode, but when I made it to the halfway mark, it wasn't getting any better (it's full of BodyHorror and ParanoiaFuel). This is the only episode of the show that I couldn't finish.

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* Grotadmorv: I've been tolerant with I'm a fan of the show's SeasonalRot, middle seasons (14-20), but "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS19E2HomerOfSeville Homer of Seville]]" just went too far. Marge doesn't want to cook and encourages her family to sneak into an event that's being catered (which is already an OutOfCharacterMoment). The family soon finds that it's a funeral. Bart goes up to the kid whose dad has just died and scams him out of 20 dollars, saying it's what his dad wanted him to do. What the heck? This isn't even funny, it's just really sad. That should've been an indicator to stop watching the episode, but when I made it to the halfway mark, it wasn't getting any better (it's full of BodyHorror and ParanoiaFuel). This is the only episode of the show that I couldn't finish.didn't even bother to finish this one.
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* Tropers/MelancholyUtopia: Season 33's "Portrait of a Lackey On Fire" as a whole just didn't make sense to me, but to get to the DMoS let me preface a few things. Smithers is one of the few gay characters in media that don't annoy me, mainly because he's not a walking stereotype and most of the jokes surrounding him stems from his attraction to his very unattractive boss rather than his orientation. Hence this episode wasn't my cup of latte, in fact, I felt disappointed because I liked the idea of Smithers adopting a puppy and as he learns to take care of it we learn more about him as a person that goes beyond his being gay. But instead we get to see him have a boyfriend named Michael which we all know won't go anywhere, as a few seasons ago revealed no matter who he goes out with, his loyalty to Burns is his number one priority and nothing or no one can get in the way of that. Recycled script, much? But the cherry on top is what makes Smithers finally break up with him (Smithers confidence in their relationship was shaky at that point because Michael turned out to be an evil corporate fat cat just like Burns); he yells at the puppy. Umm, Waylon? You know Burns has done far worse things than yell at a puppy, right? So what makes the two different in any way? The ending with the puppy was cute, but not a surprise, because I saw it coming from the very beginning, which in my opinion they should have focused more on than some rando who won't return after this episode. Also, side note, Marge is incredibly annoying in this episode. We get it, lady, you're a straight ally; shut the fuck up about it already. Hell, you're more annoying than Lisa at this point, which is quite saying something.

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* Tropers/MelancholyUtopia: Season 33's "Portrait of a Lackey On Fire" as a whole just didn't make sense to me, but to get to the DMoS let me preface a few things. Smithers is one of the few gay characters in media that don't annoy me, mainly because he's not a walking stereotype and most of the jokes surrounding him stems from his attraction to his very unattractive boss rather than his orientation. Hence this episode wasn't my cup of latte, in fact, I felt disappointed because I liked the idea of Smithers adopting a puppy and as he learns to take care of it we learn more about him as a person that goes beyond his being gay. But instead we get to see him have a boyfriend named Michael which we all know won't go anywhere, as a few seasons ago revealed no matter who he goes out with, his loyalty to Burns is his number one priority and nothing or no one can get in the way of that. Recycled script, much? But the cherry on top is what makes Smithers finally break up with him (Smithers confidence in their relationship was shaky at that point because Michael turned out to be an evil corporate fat cat just like Burns); he yells at the puppy. Umm, Waylon? You know Burns has done far worse things than yell at a puppy, right? He kinda did that at the start of the episode! So what makes the two different in any way? I don't get it. The ending with the puppy was cute, but not a surprise, because I saw it coming from the very beginning, which in my opinion they should have focused more on than some rando who won't return after this episode. Also, side note, Marge is incredibly annoying in this episode. We get it, lady, you're a straight ally; shut the fuck up about it already. Hell, you're more annoying than Lisa [[SoapboxSadie Lisa]] at this point, which is quite saying something.
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* Tropers/MelancholyUtopia: "Portrait of a Lackey On Fire" as a whole just didn't make sense to me, but to get to the DMoS let me preface a few things. Smithers is one of the few gay characters in media that don't annoy me, mainly because he's not a walking stereotype and most of the jokes surrounding him stems from his attraction to his very unattractive boss rather than his orientation. Hence this episode wasn't my cup if latte, but I felt disappointed because I liked the idea of Smithers adopting a puppy and as he learns to take care of it we learn more about him as a person that goes beyond his being gay. But instead we get to see him have a boyfriend named Michael which we all know won't go anywhere, as a few seasons ago revealed no matter who he goes out with, his loyalty to Burns is his number one priority and nothing or no one can get in the way of that. Recycled script, much? But the cherry on top is what makes Smithers finally break up with him (Smithers confidence in their relationship was shaky at that point because Michael turned out to be an evil corporate fat cat just like Burns); he yells at the puppy. Umm, Waylon? You know Burns has done far worse things than yell at a puppy, right? So what makes the two different in any way? The ending with the puppy was cute, but not a surprise, because I saw it coming from the very beginning, which in my opinion they should have focused more on than some rando who won't return after this episode.

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* Tropers/MelancholyUtopia: Season 33's "Portrait of a Lackey On Fire" as a whole just didn't make sense to me, but to get to the DMoS let me preface a few things. Smithers is one of the few gay characters in media that don't annoy me, mainly because he's not a walking stereotype and most of the jokes surrounding him stems from his attraction to his very unattractive boss rather than his orientation. Hence this episode wasn't my cup if of latte, but in fact, I felt disappointed because I liked the idea of Smithers adopting a puppy and as he learns to take care of it we learn more about him as a person that goes beyond his being gay. But instead we get to see him have a boyfriend named Michael which we all know won't go anywhere, as a few seasons ago revealed no matter who he goes out with, his loyalty to Burns is his number one priority and nothing or no one can get in the way of that. Recycled script, much? But the cherry on top is what makes Smithers finally break up with him (Smithers confidence in their relationship was shaky at that point because Michael turned out to be an evil corporate fat cat just like Burns); he yells at the puppy. Umm, Waylon? You know Burns has done far worse things than yell at a puppy, right? So what makes the two different in any way? The ending with the puppy was cute, but not a surprise, because I saw it coming from the very beginning, which in my opinion they should have focused more on than some rando who won't return after this episode. Also, side note, Marge is incredibly annoying in this episode. We get it, lady, you're a straight ally; shut the fuck up about it already. Hell, you're more annoying than Lisa at this point, which is quite saying something.
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* Tropers/MelancholyUtopia: "Portrait of a Lackey On Fire" as a whole just didn't make sense to me, but to get to the DMoS let me preface a few things. Smithers is one of the few gay characters in media that don't annoy me, mainly because he's not a walking stereotype and most of the jokes surrounding him stems from his attraction to his very unattractive boss rather than his orientation. Hence this episode wasn't my cup if latte, but I felt disappointed because I liked the idea of Smithers adopting a puppy and as he learns to take care of it we learn more about him as a person that goes beyond his being gay. But instead we get to see him have a boyfriend named Michael which we all know won't go anywhere, as a few seasons ago revealed no matter who he goes out with, his loyalty to Burns is his number one priority and nothing or no one can get in the way of that. Recycled script, much? But the cherry on top is what makes Smithers finally break up with him (Smithers confidence in their relationship was shaky at that point because Michael turned out to be an evil corporate fat cat just like Burns); he yells at the puppy. Umm, Waylon? You know Burns has done far worse things than yell at a puppy, right? So what makes the two different in any way? The ending with the puppy was cute, but not a surprise, because I saw it coming from the very beginning, which in my opinion they should have focused more on than some rando who won't return after this episode.
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* JaredTropes: There is YankTheDogsChain and there there’s... Creator/BongoComics. While I liked Comicbook/TheSimpsons in my younger years, my love for it has slowly faded away over the past decade due to its Flanderization of characters that uses to be good, and the multiple TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot moments. My least favourite Simpsons comic story was the final issue of Bart Simpson, Son of Homer’s Odyssey. For one thing, everything in and behind it was fucking horrible, but if there’s one thing that broke my Bongo Comics life, it’s the final chapter of the story, “Chapter VII: Everything must go!” This was the moment that [[FranchiseKiller killed the entire company for me]] due to the most insulting thing ever seen in a comic book: the destruction of Springfield. It was all Robot Millhouse’s fault that the town was destroyed, but what made me stop reading them was the moment when Frink visited the Simpsons and telled them that until the city is built up again, they may continue to use his reality glasses. And it’s no joke: the main character of the story, Bart took them off by purpose, and seeing that Springfield is totally destroyed, Frink reminds him that he should wear them so they can pretend that nothing happened with the help of his program The Multiple Augmented Tactile Targeted Gigabyte Repository of Engineered Normalty Interfacing Nascent Genomes (M.A.T.T.G.R.O.E.N.I.N.G.), and it completely made me angry. Wearing it all the time during the apocalypse is the worst time ever done in a comic book, and it made me quit a comic book series that has overstayed its welcome. I’m still going back to ReadComicOnline to read a few old Simpsons books, but for now on? I’m switching over to [[WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons the TV show]]. Bye bye, you lucky yellow dickheads.
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* marioandsonic: I have to talk about a moment from one episode that really rubbed me the wrong way. In "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS3E4BartTheMurderer Bart the Murderer]]", the episode begins with Bart waking up to what's supposed to be a great day: he has his homework done (which, knowing Bart, is very rare) and his school is going on a field trip to a chocolate factory. However, the entire first act pretty much makes Bart a CosmicPlaything: he steps on a plastic dinosaur waking up, his dog eats his homework, he misses the bus and has to walk to school in the rain, gets hit with a ball during recess, can't go on the trip due to forgetting his permission slip, has to stay at the school and lick envelopes, and has to ride his skateboard home (again, in the rain). One of his skateboard's wheels falls off, and he winds up at the door to the LegitimateBusinessmensSocialClub, where Fat Tony and his gang resides. Now, that's not what the DMOS is for me. [[{{Jerkass}} The DMOS is how Lisa acts during this entire first act. During the scene where Bart misses the bus, as the bus drives away, we see a shot of Lisa waving goodbye to Bart with a smug grin on her face. She could have easily told the bus driver to wait for him, or at the very least, tell the driver to stop, but no! She doesn't do anything! Then, at the chocolate factory, Lisa says "I think is something Bart would've really enjoyed, but it's the only way he'll learn." Learn what?! What did Bart do wrong here? All the guy wanted to do was go on a trip!]] Ever since then, I couldn't stand [[CreatorsPet Lisa]] anymore. And the newer episodes only [[TheScrappy make her worse in my eyes]]. I'd go into that further, but some examples have already been listed here.

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* marioandsonic: I have to talk about a moment from one episode that really rubbed me the wrong way. In "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS3E4BartTheMurderer Bart the Murderer]]", the episode begins with Bart waking up to what's supposed to be a great day: he has his homework done (which, knowing Bart, is very rare) and his school is going on a field trip to a chocolate factory. However, the entire first act pretty much makes Bart a CosmicPlaything: he steps on a plastic dinosaur waking up, his dog eats his homework, he misses the bus and has to walk to school in the rain, gets hit with a ball during recess, can't go on the trip due to forgetting his permission slip, has to stay at the school and lick envelopes, and has to ride his skateboard home (again, in the rain). One of his skateboard's wheels falls off, and he winds up at the door to the LegitimateBusinessmensSocialClub, Legitimate Businessmen's Social Club, where Fat Tony and his gang resides. Now, that's not what the DMOS is for me. [[{{Jerkass}} The DMOS is how Lisa acts during this entire first act. During the scene where Bart misses the bus, as the bus drives away, we see a shot of Lisa waving goodbye to Bart with a smug grin on her face. She could have easily told the bus driver to wait for him, or at the very least, tell the driver to stop, but no! She doesn't do anything! Then, at the chocolate factory, Lisa says "I think is something Bart would've really enjoyed, but it's the only way he'll learn." Learn what?! What did Bart do wrong here? All the guy wanted to do was go on a trip!]] Ever since then, I couldn't stand [[CreatorsPet Lisa]] anymore. And the newer episodes only [[TheScrappy make her worse in my eyes]]. I'd go into that further, but some examples have already been listed here.
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*{Bigbunny}:The episode Angry Dad the movie could very well be retitled “We’re butthurt about not being good enough to win awards anymore” the episode. It’s nothing but a bunch of hate filled jabs at other much better forms of animation being more successful (and much better) than they are and its plot is incredibly nonsensical. This episode is more than enough proof that the writers have no respect for any other style of animation or for their audience, pretty much like Teen Titans Go.

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* Tropers/MisterToodleoo: In the opening of "Exit Through the Kwik-E-Mart", Homer arranges to have a TV chef phone Marge as a birthday present. Unfortunately, they miss her calls because of a rabbit, which was Bart's present for Marge, chewing through the phone line. When the family discovers this, they listen to the four messages left by the chef, with the last one shouting "screw you" and telling Marge not to use her products. They then turn on the show on TV for a few seconds, and it shows everybody on the show booing Marge, along with a mocking drawing of her. Okay, this is a scenario straight out of a "worst possible outcome" book, and I was underwhelmed by the fact that this was never brought up again. Instead, it is used as the LeadIn to a plot about Bart rebelling against Homer.


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* Tropers/MisterToodleoo: I'm replacing my teenhood DMOS (which was "Exit Through the Kwik-E-Mart" opening with an over-the-top dramatic scenario that's never brought up again) with my adulthood DMOS: the non-evenhanded foundation of the plot of "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS34E16HostileKirkPlace Hostile Kirk Place]]". The plot, which involves Kirk becoming the new Hitler, relies on the notion that "critical race theory" is just a phrase people use to complain about schools teaching embarassing ways that ancestors acted, with Kirk not wanting kids to learn that his ancestor built a faulty gazebo and calling it "critical brace theory". In actuality, CRT is a form of critical theory, which is a Marxist theory that critiques all of society, hence the name. For a fictional example, actual "critical brace theory" would involve thinking that societal harms from said faulty gazebo still persist while benefitting a particular group of people. Oh, and that the benefitting group are automatically less purehearted than the harmed people. You can go ahead and add this to a list of examples of how the show is no longer evenhanded.
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* Tropers/{{TomT}}: There was one part of [[Recap/TheSimpsonsS29E05GrampyCanYaHearMe Grampy Can Ya Hear Me]] that made my blood boil, and that was the subplot with Principal Skinner and Agnes, which easily pushes the latter into my least favourite character of the show. So in a flashback, Principal Skinner is applying to become a director of a marching band, and the show goes out of its way to emphasise how this would be an opportunity most people would be happy to experience in a lifetime. He gets an acceptance letter, he gets his mother Agnes to read it to him, and at this point, I was thinking “She’s not going to… No, even a crotchety old hag like her would lie about whether he got in… right?” But nope. That hateful old crony lies to her son’s face about whether he got in to a college he was desperate to get into. At the very least, if she simply forbade him to go, she would be being upfront about it, but nope. This goes to show how, during this part of the show, the characters had no limit to the asshole-ish things they were willing to do (this is the same season in which Bart goes missing in a missile launch zone, which Milhouse knew about, and he decides to lie about whether he knows about this to Lisa just to win her sympathy). The worst part, though, is how Principal Skinner [[EasilyForgiven inexplicably forgives his mother]] for no reason at all. This episode wouldn’t have been as bad as it was if A) they didn’t emphasise the sheer amount of happiness and fulfilment Skinner would have received had it not been for his mother, and B) the episode had provided some CharacterDevelopment for Skinner - have him finally stand up to his mother, [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech tell her why he’s sick of her controlling every aspect of his life]], move out of her house, maybe even quit his job as principal to become a marching band director like he hoped, but nope, [[StatusQuoIsGod everything’s back to square one]] and Skinner still lives with his deceiving asshole ControlFreak of a mother, and I can never look at Agnes Skinner again without thinking of this moment.
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* StormKensho: ''The Simpsons 20th Anniversary Special – In 3-D! On Ice!'' and its potshots (most of them by Lisa) at Creator/{{Fox News|Channel}}. How original, guys. A left-leaning show making snark at the expense of a conservative news source? The same conservative news source that was ignored by such shows prior to its rise in the ratings? New and exciting! *facepalm*

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* StormKensho: ''The Simpsons 20th Anniversary Special – In 3-D! On Ice!'' and its potshots (most of them by Lisa) at Creator/{{Fox News|Channel}}.Fox News. How original, guys. A left-leaning show making snark at the expense of a conservative news source? The same conservative news source that was ignored by such shows prior to its rise in the ratings? New and exciting! *facepalm*
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* ''Tropers/Agent2583'': If I had to decide on a terrible Simpsons episode, I would definitely say "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS11E19KillTheAlligatorAndRun Kill the Alligator and Run]]". In this episode, The Simpsons go to Florida in order to cure Homer's paranoia, but when they get there, it's Spring Break and Homer goes crazy, interrupting a Music/KidRock concert while the others explore Florida. But that's not the reason many fans hate it. The big problem is when they "kill" the alligator, Captain Jack and they go on the run from the law, taking a job at a restaurant. That's not the stupid part though. The stupid part is when they're at the restaurant after they go to prison, and then Captain Jack turns up alive and well and to quote YouTuber The Real Jims: "The alligator was alive the entire time." and then they release The Simpsons from prison but they ban them from ever entering Florida again. The whole plot is a complete mess and it didn't go anywhere. Not to mention that they're banned from almost every state as revealed in the ending part of this episode. Then again [[SeriesContinuityError they go to Florida in later episodes despite being banned from there]]!

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* ''Tropers/Agent2583'': If I had to decide on a terrible Simpsons episode, I would definitely say "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS11E19KillTheAlligatorAndRun Kill the Alligator and Run]]". In this episode, The Simpsons go to Florida in order to cure Homer's paranoia, but when they get there, it's Spring Break and Homer goes crazy, interrupting a Music/KidRock concert while the others explore Florida. But that's not the reason many fans hate it. The big problem is when they "kill" the alligator, Captain Jack and they go on the run from the law, taking a job at a restaurant. That's not the stupid part though. The stupid part is when they're at the restaurant after they go to prison, and then Captain Jack turns up alive and well and to quote YouTuber The Real Jims: [=YouTuber=] WebVideo/TheRealJims : "The alligator was alive the entire time." and then they release The Simpsons from prison but they ban them from ever entering Florida again. The whole plot is a complete mess and it didn't go anywhere. Not to mention that they're banned from almost every state as revealed in the ending part of this episode. Then again [[SeriesContinuityError they go to Florida in later episodes despite being banned from there]]!
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** bigladiesman: This. On spades. It was the culmination of a chain of dissapoimtments: "Marge Don't Be Proud" depressed me. Frank Grimes' funeral made me go all "Dude, not funny" for the first time in the series (I love the rest of the episode, though). "All Singing, All Dancing" made me wonder if the formula was showing signs of seasonal rot. I found "Principal and the Pauper" funny, but the whole idea of the episode confirmed my suspicions of seasonal rot. But I went on. "Miracle On Evergreen Terrace" was the first episode to make me mad. "Lisa the Simpson" made me hate Lisa's guts forever… And then came this. I really happen to love these convulted plans to get someone to face their actions, and this episode's conclusion was looking very much like a film I love: "The Sting". And here I was, eager to know about Marge and Lisa's absurdly elaborated plot. And then, "SURF'S UP!". It has been, so far, one of the only two times I rage-quitted a fictional show/film, the other one being "Last Year On Marienbad". Both for the same reason: I got the impression that and Alain Resnais and Carolyn Omine were laughing at me, not with me. 23 years later, I still haven't seen a complete Simpsons episode made after this one.

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** bigladiesman: This. On spades. It was the culmination of a long but steady chain of dissapoimtments: dissapointments: "Marge Don't Be Proud" depressed me. Frank Grimes' funeral made me go all "Dude, not funny" for the first time in the series (I love the rest of the episode, though). "All Singing, All Dancing" made me wonder if the formula was showing signs of seasonal rot. I found "Principal and the Pauper" funny, but the whole idea of the episode confirmed my suspicions of seasonal rot. But I went on. "Miracle On Evergreen Terrace" was the first episode to make me mad. "Lisa the Simpson" made me hate Lisa's guts forever… And then came this. I really happen to love these convulted plans to get someone to face their actions, and this episode's conclusion was looking very much like a film I love: "The Sting". And here I was, eager to know about Marge and Lisa's absurdly elaborated plot. And then, "SURF'S UP!". It has been, so far, one of the only two times I rage-quitted a fictional show/film, the other one being "Last Year On Marienbad". Both for the same reason: I got the impression that and Alain Resnais and Carolyn Omine were laughing at me, not with me. 23 years later, I still haven't seen a complete Simpsons episode made after this one.
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** [[Tropers/bigladiesman]]: This. On spades. It was the culmination of a chain of dissapoimtments: "Marge Don't Be Proud" depressed me. Frank Grimes' funeral made me go all "Dude, not funny" for the first time in the series (I love the rest of the episode, though). "All Singing, All Dancing" made me wonder if the formula was showing signs of seasonal rot. I found "Principal and the Pauper" funny, but the whole idea of the episode confirmed my suspicions of seasonal rot. But I went on. "Miracle On Evergreen Terrace" was the first episode to make me mad. "Lisa the Simpson" made me hate Lisa's guts forever… And then came this. I really happen to love these convulted plans to get someone to face their actions, and this episode's conclusion was looking very much like a film I love: "The Sting". And here I was, eager to know about Marge and Lisa's absurdly elaborated plot. And then, "SURF'S UP!". It has been, so far, one of the only two times I rage-quitted a fictional show/film, the other one being "Last Year On Marienbad". Both for the same reason: I got the impression that and Alain Resnais and Carolyn Omine were laughing at me, not with me. 23 years later, I still haven't seen a complete Simpsons episode made after this one.

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** [[Tropers/bigladiesman]]: bigladiesman: This. On spades. It was the culmination of a chain of dissapoimtments: "Marge Don't Be Proud" depressed me. Frank Grimes' funeral made me go all "Dude, not funny" for the first time in the series (I love the rest of the episode, though). "All Singing, All Dancing" made me wonder if the formula was showing signs of seasonal rot. I found "Principal and the Pauper" funny, but the whole idea of the episode confirmed my suspicions of seasonal rot. But I went on. "Miracle On Evergreen Terrace" was the first episode to make me mad. "Lisa the Simpson" made me hate Lisa's guts forever… And then came this. I really happen to love these convulted plans to get someone to face their actions, and this episode's conclusion was looking very much like a film I love: "The Sting". And here I was, eager to know about Marge and Lisa's absurdly elaborated plot. And then, "SURF'S UP!". It has been, so far, one of the only two times I rage-quitted a fictional show/film, the other one being "Last Year On Marienbad". Both for the same reason: I got the impression that and Alain Resnais and Carolyn Omine were laughing at me, not with me. 23 years later, I still haven't seen a complete Simpsons episode made after this one.
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** [[Tropers/bigladiesman]]: This. On spades. It was the culmination of a chain of dissapoimtments: "Marge Don't Be Proud" depressed me. Frank Grimes' funeral made me go all "Dude, not funny" for the first time in the series (I love the rest of the episode, though). "All Singing, All Dancing" made me wonder if the formula was showing signs of seasonal rot. I found "Principal and the Pauper" funny, but the whole idea of the episode confirmed my suspicions of seasonal rot. But I went on. "Miracle On Evergreen Terrace" was the first episode to make me mad. "Lisa the Simpson" made me hate Lisa's guts forever… And then came this. I really happen to love these convulted plans to get someone to face their actions, and this episode's conclusion was looking very much like a film I love: "The Sting". And here I was, eager to know about Marge and Lisa's absurdly elaborated plot. And then, "SURF'S UP!". It has been, so far, one of the only two times I rage-quitted a fictional show/film, the other one being "Last Year On Marienbad". Both for the same reason: I got the impression that and Alain Resnais and Carolyn Omine were laughing at me, not with me. 23 years later, I still haven't seen a complete Simpsons episode made after this one.
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** nerdofgrayskull: My problem is that Lady Gaga only has one joke; Lady Gaga wears weird outfits. Use new jokes, or get another celebrity guest star.

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** nerdofgrayskull: My problem is that Lady Gaga only has one joke; joke: Lady Gaga wears weird outfits. Use new jokes, or get another celebrity guest star.
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* Tropers/LunaVeg87: "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS12E16ByeByeNerdie Bye Bye Nerdie]]" by far marks the Dethroning moment for me. The episode starts with a new girl, Francine, coming to Springfield Elementary. Since she seems shy, Lisa tries to befriend her, and Francine promptly punches her out. Throughout the episode, Lisa and other smart kids are targets of [[TheBully Francine's]] abuse, and Lisa tries to figure out why. Fair enough, but the truly disgusting moment occurs at the end, with Lisa's discovery: apparently, [[ArtisticLicenseBiology nerds and other brainy people emit a pheromone that entices bullies to attack them]]. [[UsefulNotes/VictimBlaming In other words,]] [[UnfortunateImplications nerds are biologically programmed to be bullied and abused through their mere existence]]. And the episode just ends with Francine whaling on a bunch of scientists. Pardon me if I can't excuse this because of RuleOfFunny, but it's not funny to me, as a person who was bullied throughout most of school, [[NotGoodWithPeople and]] [[BrokenBird developed psychological]] [[BrokenAce issues from it]] [[HarsherInHindsight (it's even worse now, since there are kids who have been literally]] DrivenToSuicide because of bullying). Yeah... not a good episode.

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* Tropers/LunaVeg87: "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS12E16ByeByeNerdie Bye Bye Nerdie]]" by far marks the Dethroning moment for me. The episode starts with a new girl, Francine, coming to Springfield Elementary. Since she seems shy, Lisa tries to befriend her, and Francine promptly punches her out. Throughout the episode, Lisa and other smart kids are targets of [[TheBully Francine's]] abuse, and Lisa tries to figure out why. Fair enough, but the truly disgusting moment occurs at the end, with Lisa's discovery: apparently, [[ArtisticLicenseBiology nerds and other brainy people emit a pheromone that entices bullies to attack them]]. [[UsefulNotes/VictimBlaming In other words,]] [[UnfortunateImplications nerds are biologically programmed to be bullied and abused through their mere existence]]. And the episode just ends with Francine whaling on a bunch of scientists. Pardon me if I can't excuse this because of RuleOfFunny, but it's not funny to me, as a person who was bullied throughout most of school, [[NotGoodWithPeople and]] asocial and [[BrokenBird developed psychological]] [[BrokenAce issues from it]] [[HarsherInHindsight (it's even worse now, since there are kids who have been literally]] DrivenToSuicide because of bullying). Yeah... not a good episode.
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** Doc Yoshi: I personally found the WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes "homage" rather funny and thought it the episode's saving grace. But as the "that's all folks" appeared on the screen (looking like something I'd see in a WebAnimation/YouTubePoop might I add) it dawned on me that it's really out of place on this show. I'd expect such a moment on WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy but not on this show.

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** Doc Yoshi: I personally found the WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes "homage" rather funny and thought it the episode's saving grace. But as the "that's all folks" appeared on the screen (looking like something I'd see in a WebAnimation/YouTubePoop YouTubePoop might I add) it dawned on me that it's really out of place on this show. I'd expect such a moment on WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy but not on this show.
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* Tropers/famfamfamfamfam: I have been very much aware of the series's SeasonalRot for a long time (it started with Lisa being a vegetarian, [thanks a lot, Music/PaulMcCartney] and then becoming a Buddhist). But for a while, I was kind of in denial about it. I continue to watch the series, however, as a debt of gratitude: I went through Hurricane Maria in 2017, and to see the show display the Puerto Rican flag, asking for support, was heartwarming and a debt I can’t repay. But I was finally convinced, sadly, of the rot for good with "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS25E7YellowSubterfuge Yellow Subterfuge]]". Seymour Skinner earned my eternal hatred and apathy in this single episode, second only to resident bitch Helen Lovejoy, the outdated whore that needs to die. To see a school principal (a man with an opportunity to make a difference in a child's life) deceive a misunderstood, lazy child like Bart Simpson with the promise of a potentially life-changing school trip to a submarine that can make him change his TroubledChild ways and become a better person... only to humiliate and demean him by abandoning him on the docks? All that hard work, school discipline and effort to be a model student, just to be AllForNothing? For Skinner’s inner satisfaction and vengeance? And we're supposed to feel ''sympathy'' for that '''[[PrecisionFStrike fucking]] son of a bitch''' Seymour Skinner? And Bart is all chummy with him in later seasons like nothing happened? '''You really expect me to believe that? To shut down my suspension of disbelief?''' No. I refuse. Bart is traumatized for life. Seymour Skinner is a tumor that needs to be excised from the show along with Helen Lovejoy. He got off easy from Bart’s and Homer’s vengeance and he should have been at least fired!!! Sorry, Mr. Groening. I'm a fan for life and I will never forget what you did for Puerto Rico in September of 2017. But this really is one of the top 10 worst episodes in the show and Skinner has overstayed his welcome.

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* Tropers/famfamfamfamfam: I have been very much aware of the series's SeasonalRot for a long time (it started with Lisa being a vegetarian, vegetarian [thanks a lot, Music/PaulMcCartney] Music/PaulMcCartney], and then becoming a Buddhist). But for a while, I was kind of in denial about it. I continue to watch the series, however, as a debt of gratitude: I went through Hurricane Maria in 2017, and to see the show display the Puerto Rican flag, asking for support, was heartwarming and a debt I can’t repay. But I was finally convinced, sadly, of the rot for good with "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS25E7YellowSubterfuge Yellow Subterfuge]]". Seymour Skinner earned my eternal hatred and apathy in this single episode, second only to resident bitch Helen Lovejoy, the outdated whore that needs to die. To see a school principal (a man with an opportunity to make a difference in a child's life) deceive a misunderstood, lazy child like Bart Simpson with the promise of a potentially life-changing school trip to a submarine that can make him change his TroubledChild ways and become a better person... only to humiliate and demean him by abandoning him on the docks? All that hard work, school discipline and effort to be a model student, just to be AllForNothing? For Skinner’s inner satisfaction and vengeance? And we're supposed to feel ''sympathy'' sympathy for that '''[[PrecisionFStrike fucking]] fucking son of a bitch''' bitch Seymour Skinner? And Bart is all chummy with him in later seasons like nothing happened? '''You You really expect me to believe that? To shut down my suspension of disbelief?''' disbelief? No. I refuse. Bart is traumatized for life. Seymour Skinner is a tumor that needs to be excised from the show along with Helen Lovejoy. He got off easy from Bart’s and Homer’s vengeance and he should have been at least fired!!! Sorry, Mr. Groening. I'm a fan for life and I will never forget what you did for Puerto Rico in September of 2017. But this really is one of the top 10 worst episodes in the show and Skinner has overstayed his welcome.
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* Tropers/famfamfamfamfam: I have been very much aware of the series's SeasonalRot for a long time (it started with Lisa being a vegetarian, thanks a lot, Music/PaulMcCartney) and then becoming a Buddhist. But for a while, I was kind of in denial about it. I continue to watch the series, however, as a debt of gratitude: I went through Hurricane Maria in 2017, and to see the show display the Puerto Rican flag, asking for support, was heartwarming and a debt I can’t repay. But I was finally convinced, sadly, of the rot for good with "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS25E7YellowSubterfuge Yellow Subterfuge]]". Seymour Skinner earned my eternal hatred and apathy in this single episode, second only to resident bitch Helen Lovejoy, the outdated whore that needs to die. To see a school principal (a man with an opportunity to make a difference in a child's life) deceive a misunderstood, lazy child like Bart Simpson with the promise of a potentially life-changing school trip to a submarine that can make him change his TroubledChild ways and become a better person... only to humiliate and demean him by abandoning him on the docks? All that hard work, school discipline and effort to be a model student, just to be AllForNothing? For Skinner’s inner satisfaction and vengeance? And we're supposed to feel ''sympathy'' for that '''[[PrecisionFStrike fucking]] son of a bitch''' Seymour Skinner? And Bart is all chummy with him in later seasons like nothing happened? '''You really expect me to believe that? To shut down my suspension of disbelief?''' No. I refuse. Bart is traumatized for life. Seymour Skinner is a tumor that needs to be excised from the show along with Helen Lovejoy. He got off easy from Bart’s and Homer’s vengeance and he should have been at least fired!!! Sorry, Mr. Groening. I'm a fan for life and I will never forget what you did for Puerto Rico in September of 2017. But this really is one of the top 10 worst episodes in the show and Skinner has overstayed his welcome.

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* Tropers/famfamfamfamfam: I have been very much aware of the series's SeasonalRot for a long time (it started with Lisa being a vegetarian, thanks [thanks a lot, Music/PaulMcCartney) Music/PaulMcCartney] and then becoming a Buddhist.Buddhist). But for a while, I was kind of in denial about it. I continue to watch the series, however, as a debt of gratitude: I went through Hurricane Maria in 2017, and to see the show display the Puerto Rican flag, asking for support, was heartwarming and a debt I can’t repay. But I was finally convinced, sadly, of the rot for good with "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS25E7YellowSubterfuge Yellow Subterfuge]]". Seymour Skinner earned my eternal hatred and apathy in this single episode, second only to resident bitch Helen Lovejoy, the outdated whore that needs to die. To see a school principal (a man with an opportunity to make a difference in a child's life) deceive a misunderstood, lazy child like Bart Simpson with the promise of a potentially life-changing school trip to a submarine that can make him change his TroubledChild ways and become a better person... only to humiliate and demean him by abandoning him on the docks? All that hard work, school discipline and effort to be a model student, just to be AllForNothing? For Skinner’s inner satisfaction and vengeance? And we're supposed to feel ''sympathy'' for that '''[[PrecisionFStrike fucking]] son of a bitch''' Seymour Skinner? And Bart is all chummy with him in later seasons like nothing happened? '''You really expect me to believe that? To shut down my suspension of disbelief?''' No. I refuse. Bart is traumatized for life. Seymour Skinner is a tumor that needs to be excised from the show along with Helen Lovejoy. He got off easy from Bart’s and Homer’s vengeance and he should have been at least fired!!! Sorry, Mr. Groening. I'm a fan for life and I will never forget what you did for Puerto Rico in September of 2017. But this really is one of the top 10 worst episodes in the show and Skinner has overstayed his welcome.
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* Tropers/famfamfamfamfam: I have been very much aware of the seriess SeasonalRot for a long time (it started with Lisa being a vegetarian, thanks a lot, Music/PaulMcCartney) and then becoming a Buddhist. But for a while, I was kind of in denial about it. I continue to watch the series, however, as a debt of gratitude: I went through Hurricane Maria in 2017, and to see the show display the Puerto Rican flag, asking for support, was heartwarming and a debt I can’t repay. But I was finally convinced, sadly, of the rot for good with "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS25E7YellowSubterfuge Yellow Subterfuge]]". Seymour Skinner earned my eternal hatred and apathy in this single episode, second only to resident bitch Helen Lovejoy, the outdated whore that needs to die. To see a school principal (a man with an opportunity to make a difference in a child's life) deceive a misunderstood, lazy child like Bart Simpson with the promise of a potentially life-changing school trip to a submarine that can make him change his TroubledChild ways and become a better person... only to humiliate and demean him by abandoning him on the docks? All that hard work, school discipline and effort to be a model student, just to be AllForNothing? For Skinner’s inner satisfaction and vengeance? And we're supposed to feel ''sympathy'' for that '''[[PrecisionFStrike fucking]] son of a bitch''' Seymour Skinner? And Bart is all chummy with him in later seasons like nothing happened? '''You really expect me to believe that? To shut down my suspension of disbelief?''' No. I refuse. Bart is traumatized for life. Seymour Skinner is a tumor that needs to be excised from the show along with Helen Lovejoy. He got off easy from Bart’s and Homer’s vengeance and he should have been at least fired!!! Sorry, Mr. Groening. I'm a fan for life and I will never forget what you did for Puerto Rico in September of 2017. But this really is one of the top 10 worst episodes in the show and Skinner has overstayed his welcome.

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* Tropers/famfamfamfamfam: I have been very much aware of the seriess series's SeasonalRot for a long time (it started with Lisa being a vegetarian, thanks a lot, Music/PaulMcCartney) and then becoming a Buddhist. But for a while, I was kind of in denial about it. I continue to watch the series, however, as a debt of gratitude: I went through Hurricane Maria in 2017, and to see the show display the Puerto Rican flag, asking for support, was heartwarming and a debt I can’t repay. But I was finally convinced, sadly, of the rot for good with "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS25E7YellowSubterfuge Yellow Subterfuge]]". Seymour Skinner earned my eternal hatred and apathy in this single episode, second only to resident bitch Helen Lovejoy, the outdated whore that needs to die. To see a school principal (a man with an opportunity to make a difference in a child's life) deceive a misunderstood, lazy child like Bart Simpson with the promise of a potentially life-changing school trip to a submarine that can make him change his TroubledChild ways and become a better person... only to humiliate and demean him by abandoning him on the docks? All that hard work, school discipline and effort to be a model student, just to be AllForNothing? For Skinner’s inner satisfaction and vengeance? And we're supposed to feel ''sympathy'' for that '''[[PrecisionFStrike fucking]] son of a bitch''' Seymour Skinner? And Bart is all chummy with him in later seasons like nothing happened? '''You really expect me to believe that? To shut down my suspension of disbelief?''' No. I refuse. Bart is traumatized for life. Seymour Skinner is a tumor that needs to be excised from the show along with Helen Lovejoy. He got off easy from Bart’s and Homer’s vengeance and he should have been at least fired!!! Sorry, Mr. Groening. I'm a fan for life and I will never forget what you did for Puerto Rico in September of 2017. But this really is one of the top 10 worst episodes in the show and Skinner has overstayed his welcome.
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* [=MurlocAggroB=]: I stopped watching ''The Simpsons'' ages ago, but I happened to catch an episode called "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS25E21PayPal Pay Pal]]", which harshly reminded me why I quit. The main plot is about Lisa feeling lonely, so Marge hires a girl to pretend to be Lisa's friend. The episode follows pretty much ever plot beat you'd expect, until we get to the ending. Lisa and the girl are on the swings talking, and the girl says even though she was faking her whole personality, she still liked hanging out with Lisa. It looks like Lisa's actually about to make a friend, but uh-oh! The girl offhandedly mentions that she's not really a vegetarian (or some other annoying, preachy Lisa trait, the specifics don't matter). Cue the wide shot, with Lisa gone and her swing left swaying. And this is the character we were supposed to feel bad for because she didn't have friends. Wow. Way to undercut any emotional connection you might have had, for just a cheap, not-very-clever gag. This is the biggest issue with modern Simpsons humour - they don't care about establishing emotions or likable characters, it's all just one-shot jokes as we move on to the next scene. There's no character drive and there's no heart to anything.
* Tropers/famfamfamfamfam: I have been very much aware of the seriess SeasonalRot for a long time (it started with Lisa being a vegetarian, thanks a lot, Music/PauMCartney) and then becoming a Buddhist. But for a while, I was kind of in denial about it. I continue to watch the series, however, as a debt of gratitude: I went through Hurricane Maria in 2017, and to see the show display the Puerto Rican flag, asking for support, was heartwarming and a debt I can’t repay. But I was finally convinced, sadly, of the rot for good with "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS25E7YellowSubterfuge Yellow Subterfuge]]". Seymour Skinner earned my eternal hatred and apathy in this single episode, second only to resident bitch Helen Lovejoy, the outdated whore that needs to die. To see a school principal (a man with an opportunity to make a difference in a child's life) deceive a misunderstood, lazy child like Bart Simpson with the promise of a potentially life-changing school trip to a submarine that can make him change his TroubledChild ways and become a better person... only to humiliate and demean him by abandoning him on the docks? All that hard work, school discipline and effort to be a model student, just to be AllForNothing? For Skinner’s inner satisfaction and vengeance? And we're supposed to feel ''sympathy'' for that '''[[PrecisionFStrike fucking]] son of a bitch''' Seymour Skinner? And Bart is all chummy with him in later seasons like nothing happened? '''You really expect me to believe that? To shut down my suspension of disbelief?''' No. I refuse. Bart is traumatized for life. Seymour Skinner is a tumor that needs to be excised from the show along with Helen Lovejoy. He got off easy from Bart’s and Homer’s vengeance and he should have been at least fired!!! Sorry, Mr. Groening. I'm a fan for life and I will never forget what you did for Puerto Rico in September of 2017. But this really is one of the top 10 worst episodes in the show and Skinner has overstayed his welcome.

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* [=MurlocAggroB=]: I stopped watching ''The Simpsons'' ages ago, but I happened to catch an episode called "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS25E21PayPal Pay Pal]]", which harshly reminded me why I quit. The main plot is about Lisa feeling lonely, so Marge hires a girl to pretend to be Lisa's friend. The episode follows pretty much ever every plot beat you'd expect, until we get to the ending. Lisa and the girl are on the swings talking, and the girl says even though she was faking her whole personality, she still liked hanging out with Lisa. It looks like Lisa's actually about to make a friend, but uh-oh! The girl offhandedly mentions that she's not really a vegetarian (or some other annoying, preachy Lisa trait, the specifics don't matter). Cue the wide shot, with Lisa gone and her swing left swaying. And this is the character we were supposed to feel bad for because she didn't have friends. Wow. Way to undercut any emotional connection you might have had, for just a cheap, not-very-clever gag. This is the biggest issue with modern Simpsons humour - they don't care about establishing emotions or likable characters, it's all just one-shot jokes as we move on to the next scene. There's no character drive and there's no heart to anything.
* Tropers/famfamfamfamfam: I have been very much aware of the seriess SeasonalRot for a long time (it started with Lisa being a vegetarian, thanks a lot, Music/PauMCartney) Music/PaulMcCartney) and then becoming a Buddhist. But for a while, I was kind of in denial about it. I continue to watch the series, however, as a debt of gratitude: I went through Hurricane Maria in 2017, and to see the show display the Puerto Rican flag, asking for support, was heartwarming and a debt I can’t repay. But I was finally convinced, sadly, of the rot for good with "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS25E7YellowSubterfuge Yellow Subterfuge]]". Seymour Skinner earned my eternal hatred and apathy in this single episode, second only to resident bitch Helen Lovejoy, the outdated whore that needs to die. To see a school principal (a man with an opportunity to make a difference in a child's life) deceive a misunderstood, lazy child like Bart Simpson with the promise of a potentially life-changing school trip to a submarine that can make him change his TroubledChild ways and become a better person... only to humiliate and demean him by abandoning him on the docks? All that hard work, school discipline and effort to be a model student, just to be AllForNothing? For Skinner’s inner satisfaction and vengeance? And we're supposed to feel ''sympathy'' for that '''[[PrecisionFStrike fucking]] son of a bitch''' Seymour Skinner? And Bart is all chummy with him in later seasons like nothing happened? '''You really expect me to believe that? To shut down my suspension of disbelief?''' No. I refuse. Bart is traumatized for life. Seymour Skinner is a tumor that needs to be excised from the show along with Helen Lovejoy. He got off easy from Bart’s and Homer’s vengeance and he should have been at least fired!!! Sorry, Mr. Groening. I'm a fan for life and I will never forget what you did for Puerto Rico in September of 2017. But this really is one of the top 10 worst episodes in the show and Skinner has overstayed his welcome.
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* Tropers/{{Wingnut}}: Brace yourselves, people... I do not have very kind words to say about "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS10E3BartTheMother Bart the Mother]]". I know some people like it, but all it took for me to spit upon this episode was one little line of dialogue. Now, I'm not denying that Bart did a terrible thing by shooting that bird, as well as disobeying Marge to get to that point, and I accept that Marge has every right to be pissed about it... or at least I would, if Marge didn't flat-out give up on Bart like that (call it what you want, but that's the vibe I get from this). Never mind that Bart was admitting his mother was right, is wracked with guilt for what he did, and is practically turning himself into her. The thing is, everybody has a pet peeve, but the act of a parent giving up on and/or disowning a child is an irreversible pet peeve. That means that any parent who gives up on a child would never, ever redeem themselves in my eyes. They could welcome the child back into the family, apologize, save the planet, and even cure cancer. But guess what? I would still hate them. I don't care if the child did something horrible enough to deserve it. Oh, and it gets worse. Sometime later, when Bart was taking care of the eggs, Marge sees this and thinks he's up to no good again. Then what does she do? She storms into his treehouse to confront him, but not before unplugging the extension cord. At that moment, without meaning to, she made it harder for Bart to keep the eggs warm, or possibly even killed them. And she wouldn't even hear Bart out. Yes, she eventually gets that Bart was taking care of the eggs, and is proud of him for it, but I have very sad news: I don't care. That scene left no positive emotional impact on me. At all. Like I said, giving up on your child is an irreversible pet peeve, and may very well change how I see Marge for life. Plus, since she did the ultimate bad deed in my eyes, why would she give a s*it if Bart acts up again? If you're going to commit the irredeemable, at least stand by the irredeemable. To quote ''WebVideo/TheMysteriousMrEnter'', "I guess the lesson to be learned here is that even the smallest parts of your story can have disastrous results, so be sure to proofread that s*it."

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* Tropers/{{Wingnut}}: Brace yourselves, people... I do not have very kind words to say about "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS10E3BartTheMother Bart the Mother]]". I know some people like it, but all it took for me to spit upon this episode was one little line of dialogue. Now, I'm not denying that Bart did a terrible thing by shooting that bird, as well as disobeying Marge to get to that point, and I accept that Marge has every right to be pissed about it... or at least I would, if Marge didn't flat-out give up on Bart like that (call it what you want, but that's the vibe I get from this). Never mind that Bart was admitting his mother was right, is wracked with guilt for what he did, and is practically turning himself into her. The thing is, everybody has a pet peeve, but the act of a parent giving up on and/or disowning a child is an irreversible pet peeve. That means that any parent who gives up on a child would never, ever redeem themselves in my eyes. They could welcome the child back into the family, apologize, save the planet, and even cure cancer. But guess what? I would still hate them. I don't care if the child did something horrible enough to deserve it. Oh, and it gets worse. Sometime later, when Bart was taking care of the eggs, Marge sees this and thinks he's up to no good again. Then what does she do? She storms into his treehouse to confront him, but not before unplugging the extension cord. At that moment, without meaning to, she made it harder for Bart to keep the eggs warm, or possibly even killed them. And she wouldn't even hear Bart out. Yes, she eventually gets that Bart was taking care of the eggs, and is proud of him for it, but I have very sad news: I don't care. That scene left no positive emotional impact on me. At all. Like I said, giving up on your child is an irreversible pet peeve, and may very well change how I see Marge for life. Plus, since she did the ultimate bad deed in my eyes, why would she give a s*it shit if Bart acts up again? If you're going to commit the irredeemable, at least stand by the irredeemable. To quote ''WebVideo/TheMysteriousMrEnter'', "I guess the lesson to be learned here is that even the smallest parts of your story can have disastrous results, so be sure to proofread that s*it.shit."
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* ablackraptor: While the episode had a few laughs and the rest of Homer's plotline wasn't too horrible, but "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS17E17KissKissBangBangalore Kiss Kiss Bang Bangalore]]" definitely deserves mention for two BlackComedyRape jokes. First they joke about the sci-fi convention when Comic Book Guy announces to the crowd of nerds that there's a girl in the crowd. The crowd instantly turn to looking for said girl, and when they see Willy wearing his kilt, they declare he's 'the closest [they're] ever going to get' before pouncing on him. Just, what!? I hope I'm not just overthinking this, but the way that comes off is that the nerds are so desperate they're going to rape Willie. The f*ck is up with that!? I'm usually OK with 'nerds are virgins' jokes, but this was just disgusting and offensive.

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* ablackraptor: While the episode had a few laughs and the rest of Homer's plotline wasn't too horrible, but "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS17E17KissKissBangBangalore Kiss Kiss Bang Bangalore]]" definitely deserves mention for two BlackComedyRape jokes. First they joke about the sci-fi convention when Comic Book Guy announces to the crowd of nerds that there's a girl in the crowd. The crowd instantly turn to looking for said girl, and when they see Willy wearing his kilt, they declare he's 'the closest [they're] ever going to get' before pouncing on him. Just, what!? I hope I'm not just overthinking this, but the way that comes off is that the nerds are so desperate they're going to rape Willie. The f*ck fuck is up with that!? I'm usually OK with 'nerds are virgins' jokes, but this was just disgusting and offensive.



** Tropers/­­{{Iamabrawler}}: This episode is Clancy Wiggum's Dethroning Moment of Suck, in my opinion. Not even any following episode trying to salvage him has succeeded. While the whole town was harassing Bart, he was literally inciting him to jump down. Seriously... f*ck you, Wiggum, for this one. There's a damn limit that shouldn't be crossed, especially in ''the Simpsons'' (there are other controversial shows for the line-crossing), and it was crossed by the police chief of all people. I'd even go as far to say that this incitation to suicide alone is worse than anything Homer has done in this season.

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** Tropers/­­{{Iamabrawler}}: This episode is Clancy Wiggum's Dethroning Moment of Suck, in my opinion. Not even any following episode trying to salvage him has succeeded. While the whole town was harassing Bart, he was literally inciting him to jump down. Seriously... f*ck fuck you, Wiggum, for this one. There's a damn limit that shouldn't be crossed, especially in ''the Simpsons'' (there are other controversial shows for the line-crossing), and it was crossed by the police chief of all people. I'd even go as far to say that this incitation to suicide alone is worse than anything Homer has done in this season.



* ''Tropers/{{Capretty}}'': A lot of people hate "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS19E11That90sShow That '90s Show]]" because it f*cks with canon, but I hate it because it made me unbearably angry with Marge. In the flashback we are shown that Homer worked a job he hated so that he could support Marge and pay for her to attend college. How does Marge repay him for this unbelievable kindness? She belittles him, pretty much cheats on him and then dumps him for her tool of a professor because "he embarrasses her". Now, she does see the error of her ways but she only returns to him after he becomes a rich and successful musician so we get the UnfortunateImplications that that's the only reason she is returning. Now, Homer Simpson is far from a perfect husband but he has made it clear over and over again that he loves Marge more than anything and this episode was the first I ever questioned: what does he see in her? You know you've made someone unlikeable when Homer comes across as more mature and responsible than them.

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* ''Tropers/{{Capretty}}'': A lot of people hate "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS19E11That90sShow That '90s Show]]" because it f*cks fucks with canon, but I hate it because it made me unbearably angry with Marge. In the flashback we are shown that Homer worked a job he hated so that he could support Marge and pay for her to attend college. How does Marge repay him for this unbelievable kindness? She belittles him, pretty much cheats on him and then dumps him for her tool of a professor because "he embarrasses her". Now, she does see the error of her ways but she only returns to him after he becomes a rich and successful musician so we get the UnfortunateImplications that that's the only reason she is returning. Now, Homer Simpson is far from a perfect husband but he has made it clear over and over again that he loves Marge more than anything and this episode was the first I ever questioned: what does he see in her? You know you've made someone unlikeable when Homer comes across as more mature and responsible than them.
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* Tropers/MisterToodleoo: In the opening of "Exit Through the Kwik-E-Mart", Homer arranges to have a TV chef phone Marge as a birthday present. Unfortunately, they miss her calls because of a rabbit, which was Bart's present for Marge, chewing through the phone line. When the family discovers this, they listen to the four messages left by the chef, with the last one shouting "screw you" and telling Marge not to use her products. They then turn on the show on TV for a few seconds, and it shows everybody on the show booing Marge, along with a mocking drawing of her. Okay, this is a scenario straight out of a "worst possible outcome" book, and I was underwhelmed by the fact that this was never brought up again. Instead, it is used as the LeadIn to a plot about Bart rebelling against Homer.
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* {Bigbunny} For me a dethroning moment of suck would have to be the episode Four great women and a manicure. Particularly Lisa’s story which is a cheap and unfunny parody of Snow White and the Seven Dwarves. To pile drive in the point home of the writers/show runners feminist agenda, they misrepresented the movie entirely and made a crap lousy joke as a cheap to make a cringeworthy anti Disney joke, even as someone who finds anti Disney humor to be extremely low hanging fruit for a joke, this was too far for me. And it makes me hate Lisa all the more and makes me even more against the show in its later seasons.

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* {Bigbunny} For me a dethroning moment of suck would have to be the episode [[Recap/TheSimpsonsS20E20FourGreatWomenAndAManicure Four great women Great Women and a manicure.Manicure]]. Particularly Lisa’s story which is a cheap and unfunny parody of Snow White and the Seven Dwarves. To pile drive in the point home of the writers/show runners feminist agenda, they misrepresented the movie entirely and made a crap lousy joke as a cheap to make a cringeworthy anti Disney joke, even as someone who finds anti Disney humor to be extremely low hanging fruit for a joke, this was too far for me. And it makes me hate Lisa all the more and makes me even more against the show in its later seasons.
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Okay, the real DMOS is this STUPID TITLE. I had to correct it like 10 times! But trust me, this was worth the effort


* Levitator: [[Recap/TheSimpsonsS8E13SimpsoncalifragilisticexpialaAnnoyedGruntcious The Mary Poppins episode with an excessively long title] is probably one of my least favorite episodes of anything, ever. They seem to portray Shary Bobbins as a villain for wanting to reform the Simpsons family, disapproving of Homer's abuse of Bart and Marge's stress-induced hair loss. That sounds perfectly reasonable to me, but apparently this somehow makes her an evil elitist with unreasonable expectations. Especially since her big trick was just doing a half-assed job -- that doesn't sound so bad! This so oppressive, apparently, that Shary gets a KarmicDeath from flying into a plane. But the real DMOS is the Simpsons' song at the end. It papers over all their horrible flaws with a half-baked BeYourself message that is just further invalidated by the many problems they show in later episodes. Honestly, this awful song just kind of encapsulates everything wrong with modern American society, in my opinion. Culture grows coarser and crasser, with fewer standards than ever, and people just want to wallow in it, because you should BeYourself. In the end, I'm almost grateful to this awful piece of television, because it has motivated me to be a better person just to spite the writers.

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* Levitator: [[Recap/TheSimpsonsS8E13SimpsoncalifragilisticexpialaAnnoyedGruntcious The Mary Poppins episode with an excessively long title] title]] is probably one of my least favorite episodes of anything, ever. They seem to portray Shary Bobbins as a villain for wanting to reform the Simpsons family, disapproving of Homer's abuse of Bart and Marge's stress-induced hair loss. That sounds perfectly reasonable to me, but apparently this somehow makes her an evil elitist with unreasonable expectations. Especially since her big trick was just doing a half-assed job -- that doesn't sound so bad! This so oppressive, apparently, that Shary gets a KarmicDeath from flying into a plane. But the real DMOS is the Simpsons' song at the end. It papers over all their horrible flaws with a half-baked BeYourself message that is just further invalidated by the many problems they show in later episodes. Honestly, this awful song just kind of encapsulates everything wrong with modern American society, in my opinion. Culture grows coarser and crasser, with fewer standards than ever, and people just want to wallow in it, because you should BeYourself. In the end, I'm almost grateful to this awful piece of television, because it has motivated me to be a better person just to spite the writers.
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* Levitator: [[Recap/TheSimpsonsS8E13SimpsoncalifragilisticexpialaAnnoyedGruntcious The Mary Poppins episode with an excessively long title] is probably one of my least favorite episodes of anything, ever. They seem to portray Shary Bobbins as a villain for wanting to reform the Simpsons family, disapproving of Homer's abuse of Bart and Marge's stress-induced hair loss. That sounds perfectly reasonable to me, but apparently this somehow makes her an evil elitist with unreasonable expectations. Especially since her big trick was just doing a half-assed job -- that doesn't sound so bad! This so oppressive, apparently, that Shary gets a KarmicDeath from flying into a plane. But the real DMOS is the Simpsons' song at the end. It papers over all their horrible flaws with a half-baked BeYourself message that is just further invalidated by the many problems they show in later episodes. Honestly, this awful song just kind of encapsulates everything wrong with modern American society, in my opinion. Culture grows coarser and crasser, with fewer standards than ever, and people just want to wallow in it, because you should BeYourself. In the end, I'm almost grateful to this awful piece of television, because it has motivated me to be a better person just to spite the writers.

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