History DethroningMoment / OnePiece

* Tropers/{{Nightfurywitch}}: Thriller Bark is an arc that’s the embodiment of “meh” to me. While it’s one of my favorite arcs aesthetically and it does have two amazing moments at the end (“Nothing happened” and Luffy and Brook’s conversation, respectively), the rest of it isn’t anything too special. However, there is ONE very brief part of this arc that drives me insane. Sanji and Abalosm (the lion guy with the invisibility devil fruit) are about to fight. Sanji mentions how he’s always wanted the power of invisibility since he was young (which in retrospect seems like a prime setup for [[spoiler:Germa 66/Vinsmoke foreshadowing]]), but instead he keeps saying he wants it so he can…peep on women. I’m sorry, the way so many people- even Oda apparently, keep mixing up Sanji’s chivalry with perversion is frustrating as hell as someone who likes him. I’m so glad Whole Cake was as good as it was, because I don’t think I could’ve handled Sanji being written this awfully for the rest of One Piece.

** Tropers/Awesomekid42: Seconded. Not only did keeping it secret nearly lead to the destruction of Fishman Island, the reason she gave doesn't even make sense. Shirahoshi's mother told her family nor to hate the killer. But that doesn't mean she can't simply tell the truth about Hody's actions. Hating someone, and letting others know about their wrongdoings don't ''have'' to be the same thing. She could have still fufilled her promise to her mother while not letting a murderer get off scot free.

Yes, even the glorious king of manga can have its own wanted list.

** Tropers/MelancholyUtopia: I was already disappointed in the arc because it put so much focus on characters I didn't give a shit about (seriously, the samurai and their constant throbbing boner for Oden becomes annoying real fast) or [[BadassNormal Usopp]], my favorite character, being the butt of the joke for almost everything he tries to do instead of the clever strategist he's previously been shown to be to defeat his foes. But this. This cemented the Land of Wano arc as nigh irredeemable in my eyes. Adding on to the above points, what retrospectively makes the whole thing worse which my brother pointed out is that it recontextualizes everything Luffy has ever done and accomplished. First off, if his fruit was a Zoan type and Shanks knew about its rarity, why in the everloving hell did he put it in an open box for just anyone to take?! And then just not tell Luffy the gravity of what it was that he'd just consumed? [[note]] Shanks did get upset, but he made it clear it was because Luffy ate a Devil Fruit that would make him incapable of swimming. He didn't say anything beyond that. [[/note]] It makes zero sense. Second, sure, he ate a fruit and thus became powerful, but a power that looks weak on paper turned out to be useful because of Luffy's creativity, hard work and determination. He put his own spin on its capabilities which gave it character and made it special. The only saving grace I could see from this prime example of blunder writing is if it turned out Luffy unlocked this type of power because of his dedication, will and training. But even so... would it matter? It's still an AssPull that completely defecates on everything Luffy worked so hard for. Oda damn well better give a good explanation for this in future chapters, otherwise I can't give this series the same old love I've always given it for its clever foreshadowing. That's not to say I didn't love Gear Fifth, I thought it was CrazyAwesome and fun to watch, but just how it was implemented into the story was utter ox manure.

* Tropers/SorPepita: My new Dethroning Moment is kind of risky because at the time of my writing this we simply don't know enough about Imu to make any kind of solid judgment about the character, but I'm taking my chances: I kind of hate the reveal that they destroyed Lulusia purely to test a new weapon in a conveniently near location. Horrific and nightmarish as it was, said destruction seemed to have a perfectly fine reason behind it: Sabo knew the World Government's biggest and darkest secret, and he happened to be in a island in which people sympathetic to the Revolutionary Army's cause had just taken control. There was no knowing how many Lulusians could have been told said secret, so it made perfect sense (to a ShadowDictator without any morals, at least) to destroy the entire island as coldly and dispassionately, yet purposefully, as a surgeon extirpating a tumor from their patient's body. Hell, there even was a precedent for that sort of thing with the Buster Call that destroyed Ohara. But nope, apparently that's not why it happened. What really happened is some cartoonishly evil person dropping a FantasticNuke into a kingdom full of innocent people ''because they couldn't be arsed to find a desert island to test it there''. Uh, say what now? [[StupidEvil That's just stupid.]] Also, am I supposed to believe that someone capable of doing something so horrible for such a petty reason has been able to rule most of the world for presumably centuries without their mind-bogglingly pointless cruelty blowing up in their face [[Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire Joffrey Baratheon-style]]? I don't care about how powerful Imu is or how well they have hidden their existence, I can't really buy that. In my opinion, this turns what had been one of the most wonderfully NightmareFuel-icious scenes in the whole series into some mustache-twirling farce. Well done, Oda.

* Tropers/SorPepita: My new Dethroning Moment is kind of risky because at the time of my writing this we simply don't know enough about Imu to make any kind of solid judgment about the character, but I'm taking my chances: I kind of hate the reveal that they destroyed Lulusia purely to test a new weapon in a conveniently near location. Horrific and nightmarish as it was, said destruction seemed to have a perfectly fine reason behind it: Sabo knew the World Government's biggest and darkest secret, and he happened to be in a island in which people sympathetic to the Revolutionary Army's cause had just taken control. There was no knowing how many Lulusians could have been told said secret, so it made perfect sense (to a ShadowDictator without any morals, at least) to destroy the entire island as coldly and dispassionately, yet purposefully, as a surgeon extirpating a tumor from their patient's body. Hell, there even was a precedent for that sort of thing with the Buster Call that destroyed Ohara. But nope, apparently that's not what happened. What really happened is some cartoonishly evil person dropping a FantasticNuke into a kingdom full of innocent people ''because they couldn't be arsed to find a desert island to test it there''. Uh, say what now? [[StupidEvil That's just stupid.]] Also, am I supposed to believe that someone capable of doing something so horrible for such a petty reason has been able to rule most of the world for presumably centuries without their mind-bogglingly pointless cruelty blowing up in their face [[Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire Joffrey Baratheon-style]]? I don't care about how powerful Imu is or how well they have hidden their existence, I can't really buy that. In my opinion, this turns what had been one of the most wonderfully NightmareFuel-icious scenes in the whole series into some mustache-twirling farce. Well done, Oda.

* Tropers/SorPepita: My new Dethroning Moment is kind of risky because at the time of my writing this we simply don't know enough about Imu to make any kind of solid judgment about the character, but I'm taking my chances: I kind of hate the reveal that they destroyed Lulusia purely to test a new weapon in a conveniently near location. Horrific and nightmarish as it was, said destruction seemed to have a perfectly fine explanation: Sabo knew the World Government's biggest and darkest secret, and he happened to be in a island in which people sympathetic to the Revolutionary Army's cause had just taken control. There was no knowing how many Lulusians could have been told said secret, so it made perfect sense (to a ShadowDictator without any morals, at least) to destroy the entire island as coldly and dispassionately, yet purposefully, as a surgeon extirpating a tumor from their patient's body. Hell, there even was a precedent for that sort of thing with the Buster Call that destroyed Ohara. But nope, apparently that's not what happened. What really happened is some cartoonishly evil person dropping a FantasticNuke into a kingdom full of innocent people ''because they couldn't be arsed to find a desert island to test it there''. Uh, say what now? [[StupidEvil That's just stupid.]] Also, am I supposed to believe that someone capable of doing something so horrible for such a petty reason has been able to rule most of the world for presumably centuries without their mind-bogglingly pointless cruelty blowing up in their face [[Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire Joffrey Baratheon-style]]? I don't care about how powerful Imu is or how well they have hidden their existence, I can't really buy that. In my opinion, this turns what had been one of the most wonderfully NightmareFuel-icious scenes in the whole series into some mustache-twirling farce. Well done, Oda.

* Tropers/SorPepita: My new Dethroning Moment is kind of risky because at the time of my writing this we simply don't know enough about Imu to make any kind of solid judgment about the character, but I'm taking my chances: I kind of hate the reveal that they destroyed Lulusia purely to test a new weapon in a conveniently near location. Horrific and nightmarish as it was, said destruction seemed to have a perfectly fine explanation: Sabo knew the World Government's biggest and darkest secret, and he happened to be in a island in which people sympathetic to the Revolutionary Army's cause had just taken control. There was no knowing how many Lulusians could have been told said secret, so it made perfect sense (to a ShadowDictator without any morals, at least) to destroy the entire island as coldly and dispassionately, yet purposefully, as a surgeon extirpating a tumor from their patient's body. Hell, there even was a precedent for that sort of thing with the Buster Call that destroyed Ohara. But nope, apparently that's not what happened. What really happened is some cartoonishly evil person dropping a FantasticNuke into a kingdom full of innocent people ''because they couldn't be arsed to find a desert island to test it there''. Uh, say what now? [[StupidEvil That's just stupid.]] Also, am I supposed to believe that someone capable of doing something so horrible for such a petty reason has been able to rule most of the world for presumably centuries without their mind-bogglingly pointless cruelty blowing up in their face [[Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire Joffrey Baratheon-style]]? I don't care about how powerful Imu is or how well they have hidden their existence, I can't really buy that. In my opinion, this turns what had been one of the most wonderfully NightmareFuel-ish scenes in the whole series into some mustache-twirling farce. Well done, Oda.

* Tropers/SorPepita: My new Dethroning Moment is kind of risky because at the time of my writing this we simply don't know enough about Imu to make any kind of solid judgment about the character, but I'm taking my chances: I kind of hate the reveal that they destroyed Lulusia purely to test a new weapon in a conveniently near location. Horrific and nightmarish as it was, said destruction seemed to me to have a perfectly fine explanation: Sabo knew the World Government's biggest and darkest secret, and he happened to be in a island in which people sympathetic to the Revolutionary Army's cause had just taken control. There was no knowing how many Lulusians could have been told said secret, so it made perfect sense (to a ShadowDictator without any morals, at least) to destroy the entire island as coldly and dispassionately, yet purposefully, as a surgeon extirpating a tumor from their patient's body. Hell, there even was a precedent for that sort of thing with the Buster Call that destroyed Ohara. But nope, apparently that's not what happened. What really happened is some cartoonishly evil person dropping a FantasticNuke into a kingdom full of innocent people ''because they couldn't be arsed to find a desert island to test it there''. Uh, say what now? [[StupidEvil That's just stupid.]] Also, am I supposed to believe that someone capable of doing something so horrible for such a petty reason has been able to rule most of the world for presumably centuries without their mind-bogglingly pointless cruelty blowing up in their face [[Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire Joffrey Baratheon-style]]? I don't care about how powerful Imu is or how well they have hidden their existence, I can't really buy that. In my opinion, this turns what had been one of the most wonderfully NightmareFuel-ish scenes in the whole series into some mustache-twirling farce. Well done, Oda.

* Tropers/SorPepita: My new Dethroning Moment is kind of risky because at the time of my writing this we simply don't know enough about Imu to make any kind of solid judgment about the character, but I'm taking my chances: I kind of hate the reveal that they destroyed Lulusia purely to test a new weapon in a conveniently near location. Horrific and nightmarish as it was, said destruction seemed to have a perfectly fine explanation: Sabo knew the World Government's biggest and darkest secret, and he happened to be in a island in which people sympathetic to the Revolutionary Army's cause had just taken control. There was no knowing how many Lulusians could have been told said secret, so it made perfect sense (to a ShadowDictator without any morals, at least) to destroy the entire island as coldly and dispassionately, yet purposefully, as a surgeon extirpating a tumor from their patient's body. Hell, there even was a precedent for that sort of thing with the Buster Call that destroyed Ohara. But nope, apparently that's not what happened. What really happened is some cartoonishly evil person dropping a FantasticNuke into a kingdom full of innocent people ''because they couldn't be arsed to find a desert island to test it there''. Uh, say what now? [[StupidEvil That's just stupid.]] Also, am I supposed to believe that someone capable of doing something so horrible for such a petty reason has been able to rule most of the world for presumably centuries without their mind-bogglingly pointless cruelty blowing up in their face [[Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire Joffrey Baratheon-style]]? I don't care about how powerful Imu is or how well they have hidden their existence, I can't really buy that. In my opinion, this turns what had been one of the most wonderfully NightmareFuel-ish scenes in the whole series into some mustache-twirling farce. Well done, Oda.

* Tropers/SorPepita: My new Dethroning Moment is kind of risky because at the time of my writing this we simply don't know enough about Imu to make any kind of solid judgment about the character, but I'm taking my chances: I kind of hate the reveal that they destroyed Lulusia purely to test a new weapon in a conveniently near location. Horrific and nightmarish as it was, said destruction seemed to have a perfectly fine explanation: Sabo knew the World Government's biggest and darkest secret, and he happened to be in a island in which people sympathetic to the Revolutionary Army's cause had just taken control. There was no knowing how many Lulusians could have been told said secret, so it made perfect sense (to a ShadowDictator without any morals, at least) to destroy the entire island as coldly and dispassionately, yet purposefully, as a surgeon extirpating a tumor from their patient's body. Hell, there even was a precedent for that sort of thing with the Buster Call that destroyed Ohara. But nope, apparently that's not what happened. What really happened is some cartoonishly evil person dropping a FantasticNuke into a kingdom full of innocent people ''because they couldn't be arsed to find a desert island to test it there''. Uh, say what now? That's just stupid. Also, am I supposed to believe that someone capable of doing something so horrible for such a petty reason has been able to rule most of the world for presumably centuries without their mind-bogglingly pointless cruelty blowing up in their face [[Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire Joffrey Baratheon-style]]? I don't care about how powerful Imu is or how well they have hidden their existence, I can't really buy that. In my opinion, this turns what had been one of the most wonderfully NightmareFuel-ish scenes in the whole series into some mustache-twirling farce. Well done, Oda.

* Tropers/EgoMan25: Now, I love this show, and I am so glad there aren't many bad moments, like maybe 4. This is the fourth one. Okay, in Drum Island, Nami is sick, and Luffy and Sanji are both taking her to the castle on the rock piller. Now, skip a bit to when Nami lets Luffy use her coat. Even though it was expensive, you would think that Nami wouldn't mind if Luffy tore it up a bit, right? Wrong. She charges him for it. Luffy saved her life! It was a good thing she receives CharacterDevelopment, [[CatharsisFactor not to mention being bloodied up in a later fight]], because otherwise I don't think I could stand her nearly as much.

* Tropers/SorPepita: My new Dethroning Moment is kind of risky because at the time of my writing this we simply don't know enough about Imu to make any kind of solid judgment about the character, but I'm taking my chances: I kind of hate the reveal that they destroyed Lulusia purely to test a new weapon in a conveniently near location. Horrific and nightmarish as it was, said destruction had a perfectly fine explanation: Sabo knew the World Government's biggest and darkest secret, and he happened to be in a island in which people sympathetic to the Revolutionary Army's cause had just taken control. There was no knowing how many Lulusians could have been told said secret, so it made perfect sense (to a ShadowDictator without any morals, at least) to destroy the entire island as coldly and dispassionately, yet purposefully, as a surgeon extirpating a tumor from their patient's body. Hell, there even was a precedent for that sort of thing with the Buster Call that destroyed Ohara. But nope, apparently that's not what happened. What really happened is some cartoonishly evil person dropping a FantasticNuke into a kingdom full of innocent people ''because they couldn't be arsed to find a desert island to test it there''. Uh, say what now? That's just stupid. Also, am I supposed to believe that someone capable of doing something so horrible for such a petty reason has been able to rule most of the world for presumably centuries without their mind-bogglingly pointless cruelty blowing up in their face [[Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire Joffrey Baratheon-style]]? I don't care about how powerful Imu is or how well they have hidden their existence, I can't really buy that. In my opinion, this turns what had been one of the most wonderfully NightmareFuel-ish scenes in the whole series into some mustache-twirling farce. Well done, Oda.

* Tropers/SorPepita: My new Dethroning Moment is kind of risky because at the time of my writing this we simply don't know enough about Imu to make any kind of solid judgment about the character, but I'm taking my chances: I kind of hate the reveal that they destroyed Lulusia purely to test a new weapon in a conveniently near location. Horrific and nightmarish as it was, said destruction had a perfectly fine explanation: Sabo knew the World Government's biggest and darkest secret, and he happened to be in a island in which people sympathetic to the Revolutionary Army's cause had just taken control. There was no knowing how many Lulusians could have been told said secret, so it made perfect sense (to a ShadowDictator without any morals, at least) to destroy the entire island as coldly and dispassionately, yet purposefully, as a surgeon extirpating a tumor from their patient's body. Hell, there was a precedent for that sort of thing with the Buster Call that destroyed Ohara. But nope, apparently that's not what happened. What really happened is some cartoonishly evil person dropping a FantasticNuke into a kingdom full of innocent people ''because they couldn't be arsed to find a desert island to test it there''. Uh, say what now? That's just stupid. Also, am I supposed to believe that someone capable of doing something so horrible for such a petty reason has been able to rule most of the world for presumably centuries without their mind-bogglingly pointless cruelty blowing up in their face [[Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire Joffrey Baratheon-style]]? I don't care about how powerful Imu is or how well they have hidden their existence, I can't really buy that. In my opinion, this turns what had been one of the most wonderfully NightmareFuel-ish scenes in the whole series into some mustache-twirling farce. Well done, Oda.