History DethroningMoment / MylittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic

27th Aug '16 9:50:08 PM CrazyLuigi
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** Tropers/{{CrazyLuigi}}: I was trying to wait for someone else to go and say, but since no one else is going to, I will. In fact, I'm actually going to replace my previous moment here (which was Dragon Quest) with ''this'' particularly painful episode. Seriously, I felt pain through watching it, and I don't say that lightly. With my previous example from Dragon Quest, I had talked about how it made a story that had great potential and ruined all together (or at least, it did until the Gauntlet of Fire restored some faith in that regard). However, this story actually revealed a kind of story I actually hate more than wasted potential after all; that type of story is having something that'd normally be considered boring or uninteresting and insulting one's intelligence in the most asinine of ways possible. But I'm getting too ahead of myself there. It should actually be noted that I knew I was getting into something bad the moment Spike made his introduction to the delegates at the conference at hand (especially considering the response immediately afterwards), but I didn't realize how awful it'd ''really get'' until further on down the line. Long story short, Twilight Sparkle needs some rest because she had been working on setting up the Grand Equestrian Pony Summit '''for three days straight,''' Spike goes from trying to make sure Princess Twilight gets her rest she needs to eventually being the decision maker, shit goes down badly for Spike, and he then has to apologize for the things he did wrong. Now that may not sound like much, and the plot may be similar to what you could find from other shows that did this kind of thing like WesternAnimation/CodenameKidsNextDoor, but trust me, the execution of the story will explain everything here.\\

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** Tropers/{{CrazyLuigi}}: Well I was trying to wait for someone else to go and say, say something here, but since no one else is going to, I will. In fact, I'm actually going to replace my previous moment here (which was Dragon Quest) with ''this'' particularly painful episode. Seriously, I felt pain through watching it, and I don't say that lightly. With my previous example from Dragon Quest, I had talked about how it made a story that had great potential and ruined all together (or at least, it did until the Gauntlet of Fire restored some faith in that regard). However, this story actually revealed a kind of story I actually hate more than wasted potential after all; that type of story is having something that'd normally be considered boring or uninteresting and insulting one's intelligence in the most asinine of ways possible. But I'm getting too ahead of myself there. It should actually be noted that I knew I was getting into something bad the moment Spike made his introduction to the delegates at the conference at hand (especially considering the response immediately afterwards), but I didn't realize how awful it'd ''really get'' until further on down the line. Long story short, Twilight Sparkle needs some rest because she had been working on setting up the Grand Equestrian Pony Summit '''for three days straight,''' Spike goes from trying to make sure Princess Twilight gets her rest she needs to eventually being the decision maker, shit goes down badly for Spike, and he then has to apologize for the things he did wrong. Now that may not sound like much, and the plot may be similar to what you could find from other shows that did this kind of thing like WesternAnimation/CodenameKidsNextDoor, but trust me, the execution of the story will explain everything here.\\
27th Aug '16 9:49:03 PM CrazyLuigi
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After going on with his decisions and saying that none of them so far caused any harm, we then see just about every one of Spike's first problems for waking Twilight Sparkle roll itself up altogether to create a flood in the main hall... with the flowers from the Dragon Sneeze Trees being a part of the flooding. Seriously, I have to say that these Dragon Sneeze Trees are '''the worst catalyst for a story I've seen in this show''', especially since the problem could have easily been replaced smoothly by having something else that grew on trees that Spike was allergic to! Also, [[ArtisticLicensePhysics water valves only work for floods when they're on, not off]]. Anyways, after Princess Cadence solves the valve problem in what's admittedly one of the only rare moments that was cool (the flood problem was solved due to Fancy Pants opening the door after [[IdiotBall Spike was too stupid to not evaporate the water with his fire breath]]), we then see Spike sneeze because of the Dragon Sneeze Tree's flowers being all over him, thus wrecking the statue that showcased unity for the event there. Not long after, the rest of the delegates (minus the other princesses) come to see the ruined hall, wondering why it came to happen in the first place, and then form an angry mob against Twilight Sparkle for Spike's decision making. Of course, the moment Spike does come to her rescue, the princess suddenly decides to wake up at "the perfect time" (even after Spike made one last yell to the delegates that she's sleeping), which results in Spike almost jumping off the tall building from Twilight's bedroom. Granted, he didn't do that, but after all that happened, it feels rather excessive over what happened, especially considering the problem only happened due to Spike's first decisions to help Twilight Sparkle sleep, not any other decision that happened after that. So now Spike apologizes to the delegates about how his decisions that made himself feel good ruined the event (even though it wasn't really the case), and the guy tries (and fails) on his own to fix the event's statue. Luckily, the delegates do help out the little guy in the end, and if that were it, I would have just found it to be another Trade Ya! with how a sweet little moment barely (but not really) saved the episode from complete turmoil. Unfortunately, that sadly is not the case; the episode ends with Spike being handed a bouquet of flowers from the Dragon Sneeze Trees, which results in Spike sneezing at the recently repaired statue (under a FadeToBlack screen) just to end the episode on a stupid joke that didn't need a joke like that in the first place. That, to me, was the biggest "Fuck You" moment that made this episode become my newest, least favorite episode of the entire season, especially since another moral that could be interpreted from that is [[BrokenAesop "no matter what you do as a team, it can all be fucked over in an instant."]] It also really hammered home the notion that Spike is nothing more than a pure [[ButtMonkey Megward The Wizard]] to this series now, which especially sucked considering how well done Spike's episodes from both Seasons 4 & 6 were, yet Season 5 just made him feel like nothing more than a joke. I apologize for making my entry so long, but honestly, there was no way I could have given my newest entry justice without explaining in precise detail as to why this episode completely pisses me off in ways not even promising episodes like both Putting Your Hoof Down and Dragon Quest did. This is officially my newest, most hated episode from the show, and while I do wish we haven't had more episodes with [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS6E11ApplejacksDayOff boring]]/[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS6E15TheCartBeforeThePonies non-entertaining stories]] around for Season 6, I'm at least thankful that none of them are as downright awful as this one was.

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After going on with his decisions and saying that none of them so far caused any harm, we then see just about every one of Spike's first problems for waking Twilight Sparkle roll itself up altogether to create a flood in the main hall... with the flowers from the Dragon Sneeze Trees being a part of the flooding. Seriously, I have to say that these Dragon Sneeze Trees are '''the worst catalyst for a story I've seen in this show''', especially since the problem could have easily been replaced smoothly by having something else that grew on trees that Spike was allergic to! Also, [[ArtisticLicensePhysics water valves only work for floods when they're on, not off]]. Anyways, after Princess Cadence solves the valve problem in what's admittedly one of the only rare moments that was cool (the flood problem was solved due to Fancy Pants opening the door after [[IdiotBall Spike was too stupid to not evaporate the water with his fire breath]]), we then see Spike sneeze because of the Dragon Sneeze Tree's flowers being all over him, thus wrecking the statue that showcased unity for the event there. Not long after, the rest of the delegates (minus the other princesses) come to see the ruined hall, wondering why it came to happen in the first place, and then form an angry mob against Twilight Sparkle for Spike's decision making. Of course, the moment Spike does come to her rescue, the princess suddenly decides to wake up at "the perfect time" (even after Spike made one last yell to the delegates that she's sleeping), which results in Spike almost jumping off the tall building from Twilight's bedroom. Granted, he didn't do that, but after all that happened, it feels rather excessive over what happened, especially considering the problem only happened due to Spike's first decisions to help Twilight Sparkle sleep, not any other decision that happened after that. So now Spike apologizes to the delegates about how his decisions that made himself feel good ruined the event (even though it wasn't really the case), and the guy tries (and fails) on his own to fix the event's statue. Luckily, the delegates do help out the little guy in the end, and if that were it, I would have just found it to be another Trade Ya! with how a sweet little moment barely (but not really) saved the episode from complete turmoil. Unfortunately, that sadly is not the case; the episode ends with Spike being handed a bouquet of flowers from the Dragon Sneeze Trees, which results in Spike sneezing at the recently repaired statue (under a FadeToBlack screen) just to end the episode on a stupid joke that didn't need a joke like that in the first place. That, to me, was the biggest "Fuck You" moment that made this episode become my newest, least favorite episode of the entire season, series, especially since another moral that could be interpreted from that is [[BrokenAesop "no matter what you do as a team, it can all be fucked over in an instant."]] It also really hammered home the notion that Spike is nothing more than a pure [[ButtMonkey Megward The Wizard]] to this series now, which especially sucked considering how well done Spike's episodes from both Seasons 4 & 6 were, yet Season 5 just made him feel like nothing more than a joke. I apologize for making my entry so long, but honestly, there was no way I could have given my newest entry justice without explaining in precise detail as to why this episode completely pisses me off in ways not even promising episodes like both Putting Your Hoof Down and Dragon Quest did. This is officially my newest, most hated episode from the show, and while I do wish we haven't had more episodes with [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS6E11ApplejacksDayOff boring]]/[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS6E15TheCartBeforeThePonies non-entertaining stories]] around for Season 6, 6 ([[SeasonalRot and maybe even longer than that]]), I'm at least thankful that none of them are as downright awful as this one was.
27th Aug '16 9:44:54 PM CrazyLuigi
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** Tropers/{{CrazyLuigi}}: I was trying to wait for someone else to go and say, but since no one else is going to, I will. In fact, I'm actually going to replace my previous moment here (which was Dragon Quest) with ''this'' particularly painful episode. Seriously, I felt pain through watching it, and I don't say that lightly. With my previous example from Dragon Quest, I had talked about how it made a story that had great potential and ruined all together (or at least it did until the Gauntlet of Fire restored some faith in that regard). However, this story actually revealed a kind of story I actually hate more than wasted potential after all; that type of story is having something that'd normally be considered boring or uninteresting and insulting one's intelligence in the most asinine of ways. But I'm getting too ahead of myself there. It should actually be noted that I knew I was getting into something bad the moment Spike made his introduction to the delegates at the conference at hand (especially considering the response immediately afterwards), but I didn't realize how awful it'd ''really get'' until further on down the line. Long story short, Twilight Sparkle needs some rest because she had been working on setting up the Grand Equestrian Pony Summit '''for three days straight,''' Spike goes from trying to make sure Princess Twilight gets her rest she needs to eventually being the decision maker, shit goes down badly for Spike, and he then has to apologize for the things he did wrong. Now that may not sound like much, and the plot may be similar to what you could find from other shows that did this kind of thing like Codename: Kids Next Door, but trust me, the execution of the story will explain everything here.\\

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** Tropers/{{CrazyLuigi}}: I was trying to wait for someone else to go and say, but since no one else is going to, I will. In fact, I'm actually going to replace my previous moment here (which was Dragon Quest) with ''this'' particularly painful episode. Seriously, I felt pain through watching it, and I don't say that lightly. With my previous example from Dragon Quest, I had talked about how it made a story that had great potential and ruined all together (or at least least, it did until the Gauntlet of Fire restored some faith in that regard). However, this story actually revealed a kind of story I actually hate more than wasted potential after all; that type of story is having something that'd normally be considered boring or uninteresting and insulting one's intelligence in the most asinine of ways.ways possible. But I'm getting too ahead of myself there. It should actually be noted that I knew I was getting into something bad the moment Spike made his introduction to the delegates at the conference at hand (especially considering the response immediately afterwards), but I didn't realize how awful it'd ''really get'' until further on down the line. Long story short, Twilight Sparkle needs some rest because she had been working on setting up the Grand Equestrian Pony Summit '''for three days straight,''' Spike goes from trying to make sure Princess Twilight gets her rest she needs to eventually being the decision maker, shit goes down badly for Spike, and he then has to apologize for the things he did wrong. Now that may not sound like much, and the plot may be similar to what you could find from other shows that did this kind of thing like Codename: Kids Next Door, WesternAnimation/CodenameKidsNextDoor, but trust me, the execution of the story will explain everything here.\\



With this story, pretty much everyone involved here held the IdiotBall at one point or another in the worst ways they could have for this episode. While this technically started out with Spike trying to go for his speech to display his importance, it really began with ''all the princesses'' since it episode didn't display any of the other princesses involved with anything else during the summit, and instead, showcased that just about everything needed Princess Twilight Sparkle's approval, which would be rather stupid considering the same princesses were still out at the event (or at least Princess Cadence). He then takes care of some of the things that would wake Twilight up, such as birds, a polo game, construction for a broken water valve, and cutting down... [[MacGuffinDeliveryService the fucking Dragon Sneeze Trees]]. Ignoring that fucking eyesore of a problem for one minute, we then have the delegates that came to see Twilight Sparkle. That mess all began with two delegate ponies arguing about... who deserves to speak first at their event. Never mind the fact that someone already stated that they had first dibs and we don't really know what the economies of either city are like for each delegate. While Spike tries to get the best decision on his own due to the princess needing her rest, the end result there wound up with a complete shitstorm going on with many delegates complaining that Spike's decision he made (as "approval" by Princess Twilight) due to an overcrowded hall, delegates shouting over each other, [[ArsonMurderandJaywalking and a pony having a seat taken by a (former) friend of his]]. Did I also mention the pony having quite the rude mouth over Spike, saying [[FantasticRacism he doesn't need advice from a random dragon]]? Anyways, Spike appears to solve the problems of every delegate that came to see Princess Twilight, but between the former blunder and a later fact that Fancy Pants was supposed to have had special treatment as host delegate, it doesn't leave enough time for Spike's first problem to be brushed away and implies that he might have made things worse for the summit (which they do, but for different reasons that'll be talked about real soon). After his first decisions named "for Princess Twilight" were done, he tries to do more things for the summit (one of which includes talking with the guy that was supposed to have fixed up the broken water valve), only to ''finally'' have a princess around in Princess Cadence. Even though we don't see her doing much of anything herself throughout the event, she does "warn" Spike not to enjoying his actions for his own gain. So what does Spike do? Take a wild guess. Yet that's not the "best part" of all this.\\

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With this story, pretty much everyone involved here held the IdiotBall at one point or another in the worst ways they could have for this episode. While this technically started out with Spike trying to go for his speech to display his importance, it really began with ''all the princesses'' since it episode didn't display any of the other princesses involved with anything else during the summit, and instead, showcased that just about everything needed Princess Twilight Sparkle's approval, which would be rather stupid considering the same princesses were still out at the event (or at least Princess Cadence). He then takes care of some of the things that would wake Twilight up, such as birds, a polo game, construction for a broken water valve, and cutting down... [[MacGuffinDeliveryService [[{{MacGuffin}} the fucking Dragon Sneeze Trees]]. Ignoring that fucking eyesore of a problem for one minute, we then have the delegates that came to see Twilight Sparkle. That mess all began with two delegate ponies arguing about... who deserves to speak first at their event. Never mind the fact that someone one pony already stated that they had first dibs and we don't really know what the economies of either city are like for each delegate.delegate speaking. While Spike tries to get the best decision on his own due to the princess needing her rest, the end result there wound up with a complete shitstorm going on with many delegates complaining that Spike's decision he made (as "approval" by Princess Twilight) due to an overcrowded hall, delegates shouting over each other, [[ArsonMurderandJaywalking and a pony having a seat taken by a (former) friend of his]]. Did I also mention the same pony having had quite the rude mouth over Spike, saying [[FantasticRacism he doesn't need advice from a random dragon]]? Anyways, Spike appears to solve the problems of every delegate that came to see Princess Twilight, but between the former blunder and a later fact that Fancy Pants was supposed to have had special treatment as host delegate, delegate (from a later mention from Twilight Sparkle), it doesn't leave enough time for Spike's first problem to be brushed away and implies that he might have made things worse for the summit (which they do, he did, but for different reasons that'll be talked about real soon). After his first decisions named "for Princess Twilight" were done, he tries to do more things for the summit (one of which includes talking with the guy that was supposed to have fixed up the broken water valve), only to ''finally'' have a princess around show up in Princess Cadence. Even though we don't see her doing much of anything herself throughout the event, she does "warn" Spike not to enjoying his actions for his own gain. So what does Spike do? Take a wild guess. Yet that's not the "best part" of all this.\\



After going on with his decisions and saying that none of them so far caused any harm, we then see just about every one of Spike's first problems for waking Twilight Sparkle roll itself up altogether to create a flood in the main hall... with the flowers from the Dragon Sneeze Trees being a part of the flooding. Seriously, I have to say that these Dragon Sneeze Trees are '''the worst catalyst for a story I've seen in this show''', especially since the problem could have easily been replaced smoothly by having something else that grew on trees that Spike was allergic to! Also, [[ArtisticLicensePhysics water valves only work for floods when they're on, not off]]. Anyways, after Princess Cadence solves the valve problem in what's admittedly one of the only rare moments that was cool (the flood problem was solved due to Fancy Pants opening the door after [[IdiotBall Spike was too stupid to not evaporate the water with his fire breath]]), we then see Spike sneeze because of the Dragon Sneeze Tree's flowers being all over him, thus wrecking the statue that showcased unity for the event there. Not long after, the rest of the delegates (minus the other princesses) come to see the ruined hall, wondering why it came to happen in the first place, and then form an angry mob against Twilight Sparkle for Spike's decision making. Of course, the moment Spike does come to her rescue, the princess suddenly decides to wake up at "the perfect time" (even after Spike made one last yell to the delegates that she's sleeping), which results in Spike almost jumping off the tall building from Twilight's bedroom. Granted, he didn't do that, but after all that happened, it feels rather excessive over what happened, especially considering the problem only happened due to Spike's first decisions to help Twilight Sparkle sleep, not any other decision that happened after that. So now Spike apologizes to the delegates about how his decisions that made himself feel good ruined the event (even though it wasn't really the case), and the guy tries (and fails) on his own to fix the event's statue. Luckily, the delegates do help out the little guy in the end, and if that were it, I would have just found it to be another Trade Ya! with how a sweet little moment barely (but not really) saved the episode from complete turmoil. Unfortunately, that sadly is not the case; the episode ends with Spike being handed a bouquet of flowers from the Dragon Sneeze Trees, which results in Spike sneezing at the recently repaired statue (under a FadeToBlack screen) just to end the episode on a stupid joke that didn't need a joke like that in the first place. That, to me, was the biggest "Fuck You" moment that made this episode become my newest, least favorite episode of the entire season, especially since another moral that could be interpreted from that is [[BrokenAesop "no matter what you do as a team, it can all be fucked over in an instant."]] It also really hammered home the notion that Spike is nothing more than a pure [[ButtMonkey Megward The Wizard]] to this series now, which especially sucked considering how well done Spike's episodes from both Seasons 4 & 6 were, yet Season 5 just made him feel like nothing more than a joke. I apologize for making my entry so long, but honestly, there was no way I could have given my newest entry justice without explaining in precise detail as to why this episode completely pisses me off in ways not even promising episodes like both Putting Your Hoof Down and Dragon Quest did. This is officially my newest, most hated episode from the show, and while I do wish we haven't had more episodes with [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS6E11ApplejacksDayOff boring]]/[[Recap/MyLittlePonFriendshipIsMagicS6E15TheCartBeforeThePonies non-entertaining stories]] around for Season 6, I'm at least thankful that none of them are as downright awful as this one was.

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After going on with his decisions and saying that none of them so far caused any harm, we then see just about every one of Spike's first problems for waking Twilight Sparkle roll itself up altogether to create a flood in the main hall... with the flowers from the Dragon Sneeze Trees being a part of the flooding. Seriously, I have to say that these Dragon Sneeze Trees are '''the worst catalyst for a story I've seen in this show''', especially since the problem could have easily been replaced smoothly by having something else that grew on trees that Spike was allergic to! Also, [[ArtisticLicensePhysics water valves only work for floods when they're on, not off]]. Anyways, after Princess Cadence solves the valve problem in what's admittedly one of the only rare moments that was cool (the flood problem was solved due to Fancy Pants opening the door after [[IdiotBall Spike was too stupid to not evaporate the water with his fire breath]]), we then see Spike sneeze because of the Dragon Sneeze Tree's flowers being all over him, thus wrecking the statue that showcased unity for the event there. Not long after, the rest of the delegates (minus the other princesses) come to see the ruined hall, wondering why it came to happen in the first place, and then form an angry mob against Twilight Sparkle for Spike's decision making. Of course, the moment Spike does come to her rescue, the princess suddenly decides to wake up at "the perfect time" (even after Spike made one last yell to the delegates that she's sleeping), which results in Spike almost jumping off the tall building from Twilight's bedroom. Granted, he didn't do that, but after all that happened, it feels rather excessive over what happened, especially considering the problem only happened due to Spike's first decisions to help Twilight Sparkle sleep, not any other decision that happened after that. So now Spike apologizes to the delegates about how his decisions that made himself feel good ruined the event (even though it wasn't really the case), and the guy tries (and fails) on his own to fix the event's statue. Luckily, the delegates do help out the little guy in the end, and if that were it, I would have just found it to be another Trade Ya! with how a sweet little moment barely (but not really) saved the episode from complete turmoil. Unfortunately, that sadly is not the case; the episode ends with Spike being handed a bouquet of flowers from the Dragon Sneeze Trees, which results in Spike sneezing at the recently repaired statue (under a FadeToBlack screen) just to end the episode on a stupid joke that didn't need a joke like that in the first place. That, to me, was the biggest "Fuck You" moment that made this episode become my newest, least favorite episode of the entire season, especially since another moral that could be interpreted from that is [[BrokenAesop "no matter what you do as a team, it can all be fucked over in an instant."]] It also really hammered home the notion that Spike is nothing more than a pure [[ButtMonkey Megward The Wizard]] to this series now, which especially sucked considering how well done Spike's episodes from both Seasons 4 & 6 were, yet Season 5 just made him feel like nothing more than a joke. I apologize for making my entry so long, but honestly, there was no way I could have given my newest entry justice without explaining in precise detail as to why this episode completely pisses me off in ways not even promising episodes like both Putting Your Hoof Down and Dragon Quest did. This is officially my newest, most hated episode from the show, and while I do wish we haven't had more episodes with [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS6E11ApplejacksDayOff boring]]/[[Recap/MyLittlePonFriendshipIsMagicS6E15TheCartBeforeThePonies boring]]/[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS6E15TheCartBeforeThePonies non-entertaining stories]] around for Season 6, I'm at least thankful that none of them are as downright awful as this one was.
27th Aug '16 9:33:47 PM CrazyLuigi
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* "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS2E10SecretOfMyExcess Secret of my Excess]]"

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** @/{{Fossilsdadada}}: Same for me, for both the above, and one other reason: During Spike's scared little ramble with Twilight in the beginning episode about where he came from and who he is, the first thought that came into my head was that we were finally, finally, [[GeneHunting going to meet Spike's parents]], find out how he got into that basket at Celestia's place, and, being a huge dragon fan in general, maybe be given a little more insight on what the culture of the dragons of this show is like. And so, after getting myself more excited than I've been since The Return of Harmony that we were finally going to be given a [[TearJerker tearjerking]]/[[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming heartwarming]] backstory on one of my favorite characters, I was given... an episode about bad influences. [[CaptainObvious I was disappointed]]. Very.
** @/{{CrazyLuigi}}: I third the notion of potential wasted for this episode in particular (although the wasted potential problem also fits in for "Putting Your Hoof Down", it felt a bit more egregious here). Even though I personally really despised the episode "Trade Ya!" (as well as "Spike At Your Service"), those were mainly due to the fact that they had overdone plots that did nothing new with them and at times almost made things worst for the show instead of better (plus "Trade Ya!" had a very unengaging synopsis that left very little imagination going on for it). However, for an episode like "Dragon Quest" (and the preview clip showcasing Spike questioning who he is), I would have expected Spike to have this journey into the land of dragons to find out a bit more about not just himself, but also the species of dragons in general. Yet instead of doing that, it just has him go into teenage male stereotypes and forces us to think this is how dragons truly are when we've only looked at one side of the species in general. Plus, didn't Dragonshy have a dragon that didn't know what he was doing was harming other creatures' habitats and left in peace after hearing Fluttershy say her words to him? Now keep in mind that wasted potential isn't the big thing that makes me hate something; I enjoyed the Equestria Games despite it focusing a bit more on Spike than the Games themselves as an example. It's only when the story devolves into something that could be best described as having negative connotations that makes me dislike an episode from this show in particular, including having one of the worst anti-climaxes of the show (arguably It's About Time had a just as bad one) and a pointless side character that would only be introduced here and never show up again because of a later episode's notes. Really, just being more focused on the kind of garbage it displayed was what not only made me want to consider it one of the worst (if not the worst) episodes of the show alongside Putting Your Hoof Down for reasons already mentioned above, but also left me with a very rotten taste in my knowing we really could have had something greater in store instead.

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** @/{{Fossilsdadada}}: Same for me, for both the above, and one other reason: During Spike's scared little ramble with Twilight in the beginning episode about where he came from and who he is, the first thought that came into my head was that we were finally, finally, [[GeneHunting going to meet Spike's parents]], find out how he got into that basket at Celestia's place, and, being a huge dragon fan in general, maybe be given a little more insight on what the culture of the dragons of this show is like. And so, after getting myself more excited than I've been since The Return of Harmony that we were finally going to be given a [[TearJerker tearjerking]]/[[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming heartwarming]] backstory on one of my favorite characters, I was given... an episode about bad influences.influences from teenage, male dragons. [[CaptainObvious I was disappointed]]. Very.
** @/{{CrazyLuigi}}: I third the notion of potential wasted for this episode in particular (although the wasted potential problem also fits in for "Putting Your Hoof Down", it felt a bit more egregious here). Even though I personally really despised the episode "Trade Ya!" (as well as "Spike At Your Service"), those were mainly due to the fact that they had overdone plots that did nothing new with them and at times almost made things worst for the show instead of better (plus "Trade Ya!" had a very unengaging synopsis that left very little imagination going on for it). However, for an episode like "Dragon Quest" (and the preview clip showcasing Spike questioning who he is), I would have expected Spike to have this journey into the land of dragons to find out a bit more about not just himself, but also the species of dragons in general. Yet instead of doing that, it just has him go into teenage male stereotypes and forces us to think this is how dragons truly are when we've only looked at one side of the species in general. Plus, didn't Dragonshy have a dragon that didn't know what he was doing was harming other creatures' habitats and left in peace after hearing Fluttershy say her words to him? Now keep in mind that wasted potential isn't the big thing that makes me hate something; I enjoyed the Equestria Games despite it focusing a bit more on Spike than the Games themselves as an example. It's only when the story devolves into something that could be best described as having negative connotations that makes me dislike an episode from this show in particular, including having one of the worst anti-climaxes of the show (arguably It's About Time had a just as bad one) and a pointless side character that would only be introduced here and never show up again because of a later episode's notes. Really, just being more focused on the kind of garbage it displayed was what not only made me want to consider it one of the worst (if not the worst) episodes of the show alongside Putting Your Hoof Down for reasons already mentioned above, but also left me with a very rotten taste in my knowing we really could have had something greater in store instead.
Very.



** Tropers/{{CrazyLuigi}}: I was trying to wait for someone else to go and say, but since no one else is going to, I will. In fact, I'm actually going to replace my previous moment here (which was Dragon Quest) with this particularly painful episode here. Seriously, I felt pain through watching it, and I don't say that lightly. With my previous example from Dragon Quest, I had talked about how it made a story that had great potential and ruined all together (or at least it did until the Gauntlet of Fire restored some faith in that regard). However, this story actually revealed a kind of story I actually hate more than wasted potential after all; that type of story is having something that'd normally be considered boring or uninteresting and insulting one's intelligence in the most asinine of ways. But I'm getting too ahead of myself there. It should actually be noted that I knew I was getting into something bad the moment Spike made his introduction to the delegates at the conference at hand (especially considering the response immediately afterwards), but I didn't realize how awful it'd ''really get'' until further on down the line. Long story short, Twilight Sparkle needs some rest because she had been working on setting up the Grand Equestrian Pony Summit '''for three days straight,''' Spike goes from trying to make sure Princess Twilight gets her rest she needs to eventually being the decision maker, shit goes down badly for Spike, and he then has to apologize for the things he did wrong. Now that may not sound like much, and the plot may be similar to what you could find from other shows that did this kind of thing like Codename: Kids Next Door, but trust me, the execution of the story will explain everything here.\\

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** Tropers/{{CrazyLuigi}}: I was trying to wait for someone else to go and say, but since no one else is going to, I will. In fact, I'm actually going to replace my previous moment here (which was Dragon Quest) with this ''this'' particularly painful episode here.episode. Seriously, I felt pain through watching it, and I don't say that lightly. With my previous example from Dragon Quest, I had talked about how it made a story that had great potential and ruined all together (or at least it did until the Gauntlet of Fire restored some faith in that regard). However, this story actually revealed a kind of story I actually hate more than wasted potential after all; that type of story is having something that'd normally be considered boring or uninteresting and insulting one's intelligence in the most asinine of ways. But I'm getting too ahead of myself there. It should actually be noted that I knew I was getting into something bad the moment Spike made his introduction to the delegates at the conference at hand (especially considering the response immediately afterwards), but I didn't realize how awful it'd ''really get'' until further on down the line. Long story short, Twilight Sparkle needs some rest because she had been working on setting up the Grand Equestrian Pony Summit '''for three days straight,''' Spike goes from trying to make sure Princess Twilight gets her rest she needs to eventually being the decision maker, shit goes down badly for Spike, and he then has to apologize for the things he did wrong. Now that may not sound like much, and the plot may be similar to what you could find from other shows that did this kind of thing like Codename: Kids Next Door, but trust me, the execution of the story will explain everything here.\\



After going on with his decisions and saying that none of them so far caused any harm, we then see just about every one of Spike's first problems for waking Twilight Sparkle roll itself up altogether to create a flood in the main hall... with the flowers from the Dragon Sneeze Trees being a part of the flooding. Seriously, I have to say that these Dragon Sneeze Trees are '''the worst catalyst for a story I've seen in this show''', especially since the problem could have easily been replaced smoothly by having something else that grew on trees that Spike was allergic to! Also, [[ArtisticLicensePhysics water valves only work for floods when they're on, not off]]. Anyways, after Princess Cadence solves the valve problem in what's admittedly one of the only rare moments that was cool (the flood problem was solved due to Fancy Pants opening the door after [[IdiotBall Spike was too stupid to not evaporate the water with his fire breath]]), we then see Spike sneeze because of the Dragon Sneeze Tree's flowers being all over him, thus wrecking the statue that showcased unity for the event there. Not long after, the rest of the delegates (minus the other princesses) come to see the ruined hall, wondering why it came to happen in the first place, and then form an angry mob against Twilight Sparkle for Spike's decision making. Of course, the moment Spike does come to her rescue, the princess suddenly decides to wake up at "the perfect time" (even after Spike made one last yell to the delegates that she's sleeping), which results in Spike almost jumping off the tall building from Twilight's bedroom. Granted, he didn't do that, but after all that happened, it feels rather excessive over what happened, especially considering the problem only happened due to Spike's first decisions to help Twilight Sparkle sleep, not any other decision that happened after that. So now Spike apologizes to the delegates about how his decisions that made himself feel good ruined the event (even though it wasn't really the case), and the guy tries (and fails) on his own to fix the event's statue. Luckily, the delegates do help out the little guy in the end, and if that were it, I would have just found it to be another Trade Ya! with how a sweet little moment barely (but not really) saved the episode from complete turmoil. Unfortunately, that sadly is not the case; the episode ends with Spike being handed a bouquet of flowers from the Dragon Sneeze Trees, which results in Spike sneezing at the recently repaired statue (under a FadeToBlack screen) just to end the episode on a stupid joke that didn't need a joke like that in the first place. That, to me, was the biggest "Fuck You" moment that made this episode become my newest, least favorite episode of the entire season, especially since another moral that could be interpreted from that is "no matter what you do as a team, it can all be fucked over in an instant." It also really hammered home the notion that Spike is nothing more than a pure [[ButtMonkey Megward The Wizard]] to this series now, which especially sucked considering how well done Spike's episodes from both Seasons 4 & 6 were, yet Season 5 just made him feel like nothing more than a joke. I apologize for making my entry so long, but honestly, there was no way I could have given my newest entry justice without explaining in precise detail as to why this episode completely pisses me off in ways not even promising episodes like both Putting Your Hoof Down and Dragon Quest did. This is officially my newest, most hated episode from the show, and I can only be thankful that we haven't had any more episodes like this one around now.

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After going on with his decisions and saying that none of them so far caused any harm, we then see just about every one of Spike's first problems for waking Twilight Sparkle roll itself up altogether to create a flood in the main hall... with the flowers from the Dragon Sneeze Trees being a part of the flooding. Seriously, I have to say that these Dragon Sneeze Trees are '''the worst catalyst for a story I've seen in this show''', especially since the problem could have easily been replaced smoothly by having something else that grew on trees that Spike was allergic to! Also, [[ArtisticLicensePhysics water valves only work for floods when they're on, not off]]. Anyways, after Princess Cadence solves the valve problem in what's admittedly one of the only rare moments that was cool (the flood problem was solved due to Fancy Pants opening the door after [[IdiotBall Spike was too stupid to not evaporate the water with his fire breath]]), we then see Spike sneeze because of the Dragon Sneeze Tree's flowers being all over him, thus wrecking the statue that showcased unity for the event there. Not long after, the rest of the delegates (minus the other princesses) come to see the ruined hall, wondering why it came to happen in the first place, and then form an angry mob against Twilight Sparkle for Spike's decision making. Of course, the moment Spike does come to her rescue, the princess suddenly decides to wake up at "the perfect time" (even after Spike made one last yell to the delegates that she's sleeping), which results in Spike almost jumping off the tall building from Twilight's bedroom. Granted, he didn't do that, but after all that happened, it feels rather excessive over what happened, especially considering the problem only happened due to Spike's first decisions to help Twilight Sparkle sleep, not any other decision that happened after that. So now Spike apologizes to the delegates about how his decisions that made himself feel good ruined the event (even though it wasn't really the case), and the guy tries (and fails) on his own to fix the event's statue. Luckily, the delegates do help out the little guy in the end, and if that were it, I would have just found it to be another Trade Ya! with how a sweet little moment barely (but not really) saved the episode from complete turmoil. Unfortunately, that sadly is not the case; the episode ends with Spike being handed a bouquet of flowers from the Dragon Sneeze Trees, which results in Spike sneezing at the recently repaired statue (under a FadeToBlack screen) just to end the episode on a stupid joke that didn't need a joke like that in the first place. That, to me, was the biggest "Fuck You" moment that made this episode become my newest, least favorite episode of the entire season, especially since another moral that could be interpreted from that is [[BrokenAesop "no matter what you do as a team, it can all be fucked over in an instant." "]] It also really hammered home the notion that Spike is nothing more than a pure [[ButtMonkey Megward The Wizard]] to this series now, which especially sucked considering how well done Spike's episodes from both Seasons 4 & 6 were, yet Season 5 just made him feel like nothing more than a joke. I apologize for making my entry so long, but honestly, there was no way I could have given my newest entry justice without explaining in precise detail as to why this episode completely pisses me off in ways not even promising episodes like both Putting Your Hoof Down and Dragon Quest did. This is officially my newest, most hated episode from the show, and while I can only be thankful that do wish we haven't had any more episodes like with [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS6E11ApplejacksDayOff boring]]/[[Recap/MyLittlePonFriendshipIsMagicS6E15TheCartBeforeThePonies non-entertaining stories]] around for Season 6, I'm at least thankful that none of them are as downright awful as this one around now.was.
27th Aug '16 9:21:42 PM CrazyLuigi
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After going on with his decisions and saying that none of them so far caused any harm, we then see just about every one of Spike's first problems for waking Twilight Sparkle roll itself up altogether to create a flood in the main hall... with the flowers from the Dragon Sneeze Trees being a part of the flooding. Seriously, I have to say that these Dragon Sneeze Trees are '''the worst catalyst for a story I've seen in this show''', especially since the problem could have easily been replaced smoothly by having something else that grew on trees that Spike was allergic to! Also, [[ArtisticLicensePhysics water valves only work for floods when they're on, not off]]. Anyways, after Princess Cadence solves the valve problem in what's admittedly one of the only rare moments that was cool (the flood problem was solved due to Fancy Pants opening the door after [[IdiotBall Spike was too stupid to not evaporate the water with his fire breath]]), we then see Spike sneeze because of the Dragon Sneeze Tree's flowers being all over him, thus wrecking the statue that showcased unity for the event there. Not long after, the rest of the delegates (minus the other princesses) come to see the ruined hall, wondering why it came to happen in the first place, and then form an angry mob against Twilight Sparkle for Spike's decision making. Of course, the moment Spike does come to her rescue, the princess suddenly decides to wake up at "the perfect time" (even after Spike made one last yell to the delegates that she's sleeping), which results in Spike almost jumping off the tall building from Twilight's bedroom.

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After going on with his decisions and saying that none of them so far caused any harm, we then see just about every one of Spike's first problems for waking Twilight Sparkle roll itself up altogether to create a flood in the main hall... with the flowers from the Dragon Sneeze Trees being a part of the flooding. Seriously, I have to say that these Dragon Sneeze Trees are '''the worst catalyst for a story I've seen in this show''', especially since the problem could have easily been replaced smoothly by having something else that grew on trees that Spike was allergic to! Also, [[ArtisticLicensePhysics water valves only work for floods when they're on, not off]]. Anyways, after Princess Cadence solves the valve problem in what's admittedly one of the only rare moments that was cool (the flood problem was solved due to Fancy Pants opening the door after [[IdiotBall Spike was too stupid to not evaporate the water with his fire breath]]), we then see Spike sneeze because of the Dragon Sneeze Tree's flowers being all over him, thus wrecking the statue that showcased unity for the event there. Not long after, the rest of the delegates (minus the other princesses) come to see the ruined hall, wondering why it came to happen in the first place, and then form an angry mob against Twilight Sparkle for Spike's decision making. Of course, the moment Spike does come to her rescue, the princess suddenly decides to wake up at "the perfect time" (even after Spike made one last yell to the delegates that she's sleeping), which results in Spike almost jumping off the tall building from Twilight's bedroom. Granted, he didn't do that, but after all that happened, it feels rather excessive over what happened, especially considering the problem only happened due to Spike's first decisions to help Twilight Sparkle sleep, not any other decision that happened after that. So now Spike apologizes to the delegates about how his decisions that made himself feel good ruined the event (even though it wasn't really the case), and the guy tries (and fails) on his own to fix the event's statue. Luckily, the delegates do help out the little guy in the end, and if that were it, I would have just found it to be another Trade Ya! with how a sweet little moment barely (but not really) saved the episode from complete turmoil. Unfortunately, that sadly is not the case; the episode ends with Spike being handed a bouquet of flowers from the Dragon Sneeze Trees, which results in Spike sneezing at the recently repaired statue (under a FadeToBlack screen) just to end the episode on a stupid joke that didn't need a joke like that in the first place. That, to me, was the biggest "Fuck You" moment that made this episode become my newest, least favorite episode of the entire season, especially since another moral that could be interpreted from that is "no matter what you do as a team, it can all be fucked over in an instant." It also really hammered home the notion that Spike is nothing more than a pure [[ButtMonkey Megward The Wizard]] to this series now, which especially sucked considering how well done Spike's episodes from both Seasons 4 & 6 were, yet Season 5 just made him feel like nothing more than a joke. I apologize for making my entry so long, but honestly, there was no way I could have given my newest entry justice without explaining in precise detail as to why this episode completely pisses me off in ways not even promising episodes like both Putting Your Hoof Down and Dragon Quest did. This is officially my newest, most hated episode from the show, and I can only be thankful that we haven't had any more episodes like this one around now.
27th Aug '16 9:02:46 PM CrazyLuigi
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With this story, pretty much everyone involved here held the IdiotBall at one point or another in the worst ways they could have for this episode. While this technically started out with Spike trying to go for his speech to display his importance, it really began with ''all the princesses'' since it episode didn't display any of the other princesses involved with anything else during the summit, and instead, showcased that just about everything needed Princess Twilight Sparkle's approval, which would be rather stupid considering the same princesses were still out at the event (or at least Princess Cadence). He then takes care of some of the things that would wake Twilight up, such as birds, a polo game, construction for a broken water valve, and cutting down... [[MacGuffinDeliveryService the fucking Dragonsneeze Trees]]. Ignoring that fucking eyesore of a problem for one minute, we then have the delegates that came to see Twilight Sparkle. That mess all began with two delegate ponies arguing about... who deserves to speak first at their event. Never mind the fact that someone already stated that they had first dibs and we don't really know what the economies of either city are like for each delegate. While Spike tries to get the best decision on his own due to the princess needing her rest, the end result there wound up with a complete shitstorm going on with many delegates complaining that Spike's decision he made (as "approval" by Princess Twilight) due to an overcrowded hall, delegates shouting over each other, [[ArsonMurderandJaywalking and a pony having a seat taken by a (former) friend of his]]. Did I also mention the pony having quite the rude mouth over Spike, saying [[FantasticRacism he doesn't need advice from a random dragon]]? Anyways, Spike appears to solve the problems of every delegate that came to see Princess Twilight, but between the former blunder and a later fact that Fancy Pants was supposed to have had special treatment as host delegate, it doesn't leave enough time for Spike's first problem to be brushed away and implies that he might have made things worse for the summit (which they do, but for different reasons that'll be talked about real soon). After his first decisions named "for Princess Twilight" were done, he tries to do more things for the summit (one of which includes talking with the guy that was supposed to have fixed up the broken water valve), only to ''finally'' have a princess around in Princess Cadence. Even though we don't see her doing much of anything herself throughout the event, she does "warn" Spike not to enjoying his actions for his own gain. So what does Spike do? Take a wild guess. Yet that's not the "best part" of all this.\\

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With this story, pretty much everyone involved here held the IdiotBall at one point or another in the worst ways they could have for this episode. While this technically started out with Spike trying to go for his speech to display his importance, it really began with ''all the princesses'' since it episode didn't display any of the other princesses involved with anything else during the summit, and instead, showcased that just about everything needed Princess Twilight Sparkle's approval, which would be rather stupid considering the same princesses were still out at the event (or at least Princess Cadence). He then takes care of some of the things that would wake Twilight up, such as birds, a polo game, construction for a broken water valve, and cutting down... [[MacGuffinDeliveryService the fucking Dragonsneeze Dragon Sneeze Trees]]. Ignoring that fucking eyesore of a problem for one minute, we then have the delegates that came to see Twilight Sparkle. That mess all began with two delegate ponies arguing about... who deserves to speak first at their event. Never mind the fact that someone already stated that they had first dibs and we don't really know what the economies of either city are like for each delegate. While Spike tries to get the best decision on his own due to the princess needing her rest, the end result there wound up with a complete shitstorm going on with many delegates complaining that Spike's decision he made (as "approval" by Princess Twilight) due to an overcrowded hall, delegates shouting over each other, [[ArsonMurderandJaywalking and a pony having a seat taken by a (former) friend of his]]. Did I also mention the pony having quite the rude mouth over Spike, saying [[FantasticRacism he doesn't need advice from a random dragon]]? Anyways, Spike appears to solve the problems of every delegate that came to see Princess Twilight, but between the former blunder and a later fact that Fancy Pants was supposed to have had special treatment as host delegate, it doesn't leave enough time for Spike's first problem to be brushed away and implies that he might have made things worse for the summit (which they do, but for different reasons that'll be talked about real soon). After his first decisions named "for Princess Twilight" were done, he tries to do more things for the summit (one of which includes talking with the guy that was supposed to have fixed up the broken water valve), only to ''finally'' have a princess around in Princess Cadence. Even though we don't see her doing much of anything herself throughout the event, she does "warn" Spike not to enjoying his actions for his own gain. So what does Spike do? Take a wild guess. Yet that's not the "best part" of all this.\\



After going on with his decisions

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After going on with his decisions and saying that none of them so far caused any harm, we then see just about every one of Spike's first problems for waking Twilight Sparkle roll itself up altogether to create a flood in the main hall... with the flowers from the Dragon Sneeze Trees being a part of the flooding. Seriously, I have to say that these Dragon Sneeze Trees are '''the worst catalyst for a story I've seen in this show''', especially since the problem could have easily been replaced smoothly by having something else that grew on trees that Spike was allergic to! Also, [[ArtisticLicensePhysics water valves only work for floods when they're on, not off]]. Anyways, after Princess Cadence solves the valve problem in what's admittedly one of the only rare moments that was cool (the flood problem was solved due to Fancy Pants opening the door after [[IdiotBall Spike was too stupid to not evaporate the water with his fire breath]]), we then see Spike sneeze because of the Dragon Sneeze Tree's flowers being all over him, thus wrecking the statue that showcased unity for the event there. Not long after, the rest of the delegates (minus the other princesses) come to see the ruined hall, wondering why it came to happen in the first place, and then form an angry mob against Twilight Sparkle for Spike's decision making. Of course, the moment Spike does come to her rescue, the princess suddenly decides to wake up at "the perfect time" (even after Spike made one last yell to the delegates that she's sleeping), which results in Spike almost jumping off the tall building from Twilight's bedroom.
27th Aug '16 8:45:02 PM CrazyLuigi
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With this story, pretty much everyone involved here held the IdiotBall at one point or another in the worst ways they could have for this episode. While this technically started out with Spike trying to go for his speech to display his importance, it really began with ''all the princesses'' since it episode didn't display any of the other princesses involved with anything else during the summit, and instead, showcased that just about everything needed Princess Twilight Sparkle's approval, which would be rather stupid considering the same princesses were still out at the event (or at least Princess Cadence). Next, we have the delegates that came to see Twilight Sparkle. That mess all began with two delegate ponies arguing about... who deserves to speak first at their event. Never mind the fact that someone already stated that they had first dibs and we don't really know what the economies of either city are like for each delegate. While Spike tries to get the best decision on his own due to the princess needing her rest, the end result there wound up with a complete shitstorm going on with many delegates complaining that Spike's decision he made (as "approval" by Princess Twilight) due to an overcrowded hall, delegates shouting over each other, [[ArsonMurderandJaywalking and a pony having a seat taken by a (former) friend of his]].

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With this story, pretty much everyone involved here held the IdiotBall at one point or another in the worst ways they could have for this episode. While this technically started out with Spike trying to go for his speech to display his importance, it really began with ''all the princesses'' since it episode didn't display any of the other princesses involved with anything else during the summit, and instead, showcased that just about everything needed Princess Twilight Sparkle's approval, which would be rather stupid considering the same princesses were still out at the event (or at least Princess Cadence). Next, He then takes care of some of the things that would wake Twilight up, such as birds, a polo game, construction for a broken water valve, and cutting down... [[MacGuffinDeliveryService the fucking Dragonsneeze Trees]]. Ignoring that fucking eyesore of a problem for one minute, we then have the delegates that came to see Twilight Sparkle. That mess all began with two delegate ponies arguing about... who deserves to speak first at their event. Never mind the fact that someone already stated that they had first dibs and we don't really know what the economies of either city are like for each delegate. While Spike tries to get the best decision on his own due to the princess needing her rest, the end result there wound up with a complete shitstorm going on with many delegates complaining that Spike's decision he made (as "approval" by Princess Twilight) due to an overcrowded hall, delegates shouting over each other, [[ArsonMurderandJaywalking and a pony having a seat taken by a (former) friend of his]]. Did I also mention the pony having quite the rude mouth over Spike, saying [[FantasticRacism he doesn't need advice from a random dragon]]? Anyways, Spike appears to solve the problems of every delegate that came to see Princess Twilight, but between the former blunder and a later fact that Fancy Pants was supposed to have had special treatment as host delegate, it doesn't leave enough time for Spike's first problem to be brushed away and implies that he might have made things worse for the summit (which they do, but for different reasons that'll be talked about real soon). After his first decisions named "for Princess Twilight" were done, he tries to do more things for the summit (one of which includes talking with the guy that was supposed to have fixed up the broken water valve), only to ''finally'' have a princess around in Princess Cadence. Even though we don't see her doing much of anything herself throughout the event, she does "warn" Spike not to enjoying his actions for his own gain. So what does Spike do? Take a wild guess. Yet that's not the "best part" of all this.\\
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After going on with his decisions
27th Aug '16 8:25:47 PM CrazyLuigi
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With this story, pretty much everyone involved here held the IdiotBall at one point or another in the worst ways they could have for this episode. While this technically started out with Spike trying to go for his speech to display his importance, it really began with ''all the princesses'' since it episode didn't display any of the other princesses involved with anything else during the summit, and instead, showcased that just about everything needed Princess Twilight Sparkle's approval, which would be rather stupid considering the same princesses were still out at the event (or at least Princess Cadence). Next, we have the delegates that came to see Twilight Sparkle. That mess all began with two delegate ponies arguing about... who deserves to speak first at their event. Never minding the fact that someone already stated that they had first dibs and we don't really know what the economies of either city are like for each delegate. While Spike tries to get the best decision on his own due to the princess needing her rest, the end result there wound up with a complete shitstorm going on with many delegates complaining that Spike's decision he made (as "approval" by Princess Twilight) due to an overcrowded hall and delegates shouting over each other.

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With this story, pretty much everyone involved here held the IdiotBall at one point or another in the worst ways they could have for this episode. While this technically started out with Spike trying to go for his speech to display his importance, it really began with ''all the princesses'' since it episode didn't display any of the other princesses involved with anything else during the summit, and instead, showcased that just about everything needed Princess Twilight Sparkle's approval, which would be rather stupid considering the same princesses were still out at the event (or at least Princess Cadence). Next, we have the delegates that came to see Twilight Sparkle. That mess all began with two delegate ponies arguing about... who deserves to speak first at their event. Never minding mind the fact that someone already stated that they had first dibs and we don't really know what the economies of either city are like for each delegate. While Spike tries to get the best decision on his own due to the princess needing her rest, the end result there wound up with a complete shitstorm going on with many delegates complaining that Spike's decision he made (as "approval" by Princess Twilight) due to an overcrowded hall and hall, delegates shouting over each other.other, [[ArsonMurderandJaywalking and a pony having a seat taken by a (former) friend of his]].
27th Aug '16 8:18:59 PM CrazyLuigi
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** Tropers/{{CrazyLuigi}}: I was trying to wait for someone else to go and say, but since no one else is going to, I will. In fact, I'm actually going to replace my previous moment here (which was Dragon Quest) with this particularly painful episode here. Seriously, I felt pain through watching it, and I don't say that lightly. With my previous example from Dragon Quest, I had talked about how it made a story that had great potential and ruined all together (or at least it did until the Gauntlet of Fire restored some faith in that regard). However, this story actually revealed a kind of story I actually hate more than wasted potential after all; that type of story is having something that'd normally be considered boring or uninteresting and insulting one's intelligence in the most asinine of ways. But I'm getting too ahead of myself there. It should actually be noted that I knew I was getting into something bad the moment Spike made his introduction to the delegates at the conference at hand (especially considering the response immediately afterwards), but I didn't realize how awful it'd ''really get'' until further on down the line. Long story short, Twilight Sparkle needs some rest because she had been working on setting up the Grand Equestrian Pony Summit '''for three days straight,''' Spike goes from trying to make sure Princess Twilight gets her rest she needs to eventually being the decision maker, shit goes down badly for Spike, and he then has to apologize for the things he did wrong. Now that may not sound like much, and the plot may be similar to what you could find from other shows that did this kind of thing like Codename: Kids Next Door, but trust me, the execution of the story will explain everything here.

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** Tropers/{{CrazyLuigi}}: I was trying to wait for someone else to go and say, but since no one else is going to, I will. In fact, I'm actually going to replace my previous moment here (which was Dragon Quest) with this particularly painful episode here. Seriously, I felt pain through watching it, and I don't say that lightly. With my previous example from Dragon Quest, I had talked about how it made a story that had great potential and ruined all together (or at least it did until the Gauntlet of Fire restored some faith in that regard). However, this story actually revealed a kind of story I actually hate more than wasted potential after all; that type of story is having something that'd normally be considered boring or uninteresting and insulting one's intelligence in the most asinine of ways. But I'm getting too ahead of myself there. It should actually be noted that I knew I was getting into something bad the moment Spike made his introduction to the delegates at the conference at hand (especially considering the response immediately afterwards), but I didn't realize how awful it'd ''really get'' until further on down the line. Long story short, Twilight Sparkle needs some rest because she had been working on setting up the Grand Equestrian Pony Summit '''for three days straight,''' Spike goes from trying to make sure Princess Twilight gets her rest she needs to eventually being the decision maker, shit goes down badly for Spike, and he then has to apologize for the things he did wrong. Now that may not sound like much, and the plot may be similar to what you could find from other shows that did this kind of thing like Codename: Kids Next Door, but trust me, the execution of the story will explain everything here.\\
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With this story, pretty much everyone involved here held the IdiotBall at one point or another in the worst ways they could have for this episode. While this technically started out with Spike trying to go for his speech to display his importance, it really began with ''all the princesses'' since it episode didn't display any of the other princesses involved with anything else during the summit, and instead, showcased that just about everything needed Princess Twilight Sparkle's approval, which would be rather stupid considering the same princesses were still out at the event (or at least Princess Cadence). Next, we have the delegates that came to see Twilight Sparkle. That mess all began with two delegate ponies arguing about... who deserves to speak first at their event. Never minding the fact that someone already stated that they had first dibs and we don't really know what the economies of either city are like for each delegate. While Spike tries to get the best decision on his own due to the princess needing her rest, the end result there wound up with a complete shitstorm going on with many delegates complaining that Spike's decision he made (as "approval" by Princess Twilight) due to an overcrowded hall and delegates shouting over each other.
27th Aug '16 7:59:57 PM CrazyLuigi
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** @/SuperSaiyaMan: I'm inclined to agree. This has to be the worst episode of this season. We've had great episodes (The Crystal Empire Two-Parter, Magic Duel, Wonderbolts Academy, Sleepless In Ponyville), we've had good episodes, and we've had boring episodes, but this is the worst of the bunch due to the CharacterDerailment Spike's gotten, his exclusion from going to the Crystal Empire, and his loss of [=PeeWee=]. And he couldn't even make the cake he wanted to make all episode at the end!

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** @/SuperSaiyaMan: I'm inclined to agree. This has to be the worst episode of this season. We've had great episodes (The Crystal Empire Two-Parter, Magic Duel, Wonderbolts Academy, Sleepless In Ponyville), Ponyville, Wonderbolts Academy), we've had good episodes, and we've had boring episodes, but this is the worst of the bunch due to the CharacterDerailment Spike's gotten, his exclusion from going to the Crystal Empire, and his loss of [=PeeWee=]. And he couldn't even make the cake he wanted to make all episode at the end!


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* [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS5E10PrincessSpike Princess Spike]]
** Tropers/{{CrazyLuigi}}: I was trying to wait for someone else to go and say, but since no one else is going to, I will. In fact, I'm actually going to replace my previous moment here (which was Dragon Quest) with this particularly painful episode here. Seriously, I felt pain through watching it, and I don't say that lightly. With my previous example from Dragon Quest, I had talked about how it made a story that had great potential and ruined all together (or at least it did until the Gauntlet of Fire restored some faith in that regard). However, this story actually revealed a kind of story I actually hate more than wasted potential after all; that type of story is having something that'd normally be considered boring or uninteresting and insulting one's intelligence in the most asinine of ways. But I'm getting too ahead of myself there. It should actually be noted that I knew I was getting into something bad the moment Spike made his introduction to the delegates at the conference at hand (especially considering the response immediately afterwards), but I didn't realize how awful it'd ''really get'' until further on down the line. Long story short, Twilight Sparkle needs some rest because she had been working on setting up the Grand Equestrian Pony Summit '''for three days straight,''' Spike goes from trying to make sure Princess Twilight gets her rest she needs to eventually being the decision maker, shit goes down badly for Spike, and he then has to apologize for the things he did wrong. Now that may not sound like much, and the plot may be similar to what you could find from other shows that did this kind of thing like Codename: Kids Next Door, but trust me, the execution of the story will explain everything here.
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