History DethroningMoment / MylittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic

17th Sep '17 11:50:10 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** [=aubeave=]: I would agree with you on pretty much everything except for the Fluttershy part. Fluttershy had a point. No one changes completely after one lesson. Just because she becomes less shy in one situation doesn't mean it is going to carry over to another situation. Silver Quill explained this very well about Fluttershy's character. Fluttershy also explained it very well, can you say that you can learn a lesson and just completely change who you are?
17th Sep '17 11:14:43 AM aubeave
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** [=aubeave=]: I would agree with you on pretty much everything Fluttershy part. Fluttershy had a point. No one changes completely after one lesson. Just because she becomes less shy in one situation doesn't mean it is going to carry over to another situation. Silver Quill explained this very well about Fluttershy's character. Fluttershy also explained very well, can you say that you can learn a lesson and just completely change who you are?

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** [=aubeave=]: I would agree with you on pretty much everything except for the Fluttershy part. Fluttershy had a point. No one changes completely after one lesson. Just because she becomes less shy in one situation doesn't mean it is going to carry over to another situation. Silver Quill explained this very well about Fluttershy's character. Fluttershy also explained it very well, can you say that you can learn a lesson and just completely change who you are?
17th Sep '17 11:13:47 AM aubeave
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** [=aubeave=]: I would agree with you on pretty much everything Fluttershy part. Fluttershy had a point. No one changes completely after one lesson. Just because she becomes less shy in one situation doesn't mean it is going to carry over to another situation. Silver Quill explained this very well about Fluttershy's character. Fluttershy also explained very well, can you say that you can learn a lesson and just completely change who you are?
17th Sep '17 9:33:29 AM nombretomado
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** Tropers/CJCroen1393: I was offended by RD's behavior in the redub. In the original scene, she was noticeably annoyed by Derpy's clumsiness, like we would all expect. In the redub, she's simpering and sympathetic. So Rainbow Dash is allowed to be a jerk to her best friend Pinkie and her good friend Rarity but just because Derpy might have a disability she's exempt? Great job Hasbro. [[BrokenAesop You decided to say that you don't discriminate against disabled people by saying that they need special treatment]]. I have AspergerSyndrome and I honestly don't think Derpy has any mental handicaps (the eyes count as a physical one) but if she did wouldn't be a better Aesop for kids to see that people don't have to get special treatment and always be absolved from blame just because they're different? Honestly, it's this type of thing that causes kids to think that if they pretend to be disabled they'll get to do whatever they want without any consequences. [[AndThatsTerrible And that's just awful.]]

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** Tropers/CJCroen1393: I was offended by RD's behavior in the redub. In the original scene, she was noticeably annoyed by Derpy's clumsiness, like we would all expect. In the redub, she's simpering and sympathetic. So Rainbow Dash is allowed to be a jerk to her best friend Pinkie and her good friend Rarity but just because Derpy might have a disability she's exempt? Great job Hasbro. [[BrokenAesop You decided to say that you don't discriminate against disabled people by saying that they need special treatment]]. I have AspergerSyndrome UsefulNotes/AspergerSyndrome and I honestly don't think Derpy has any mental handicaps (the eyes count as a physical one) but if she did wouldn't be a better Aesop for kids to see that people don't have to get special treatment and always be absolved from blame just because they're different? Honestly, it's this type of thing that causes kids to think that if they pretend to be disabled they'll get to do whatever they want without any consequences. [[AndThatsTerrible And that's just awful.]]
8th Sep '17 9:37:05 AM TheCastawayPariah
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** TheCastawayPariah: The way this episode treated Pinkie is disgusting. Trixie doesn't return her mouth even though she restored everyone else and no one protests this, and on top of that the episode acts like everything's okay at the end even though Pinkie STILL hasn't been cured. It spat in the face of both Pinkie and what the show is supposed to be about. Even though Pinkie helped get her sorry flank back into Ponyville, Twilight doesn't care enough to put her mouth back on at the earliest opportunity. [[SarcasmMode Hooray for the magic of friendship!]] The fact that Trixie comes back again later on in the show and is portrayed sympathetically doesn't help either and completely put me off from watching the show any longer. I would very much like to see some interaction between Trixie and Pinkie. And better yet, maybe even an episode where Pinkie pays Trixie back in a similar way with her fourth wall-breaking powers. Seriously, you cannot have it that a character's problem is casually swept under the rug and then still pretend that this show promotes good messages about friendship.
7th Sep '17 7:51:49 AM SenorCornholio
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** Spanks: We just may have a new candidate for the new worst episode in the show. Friendship Is Magic has had ([[SturgeonsLaw many]]) lackluster episodes and stinker efforts before. But ''this one''... hoo boy is this a whopper. ''Fame And Misfortune'' from its subject matter and the moral and theme it has, is an irredeemably terrible episode in all aspects. What honestly is it trying to do here? Is it trying to be funny? Is it trying to be hilarious with its wacky meta humor? Is it a commentary? Is it trying to be subversive and edgy? Does it want me to feel bad? Well, I don't feel any of those things. I simply [[EightDeadlyWords don't give a damn]] for ''anything'' in this episode. Even the Mane Six, whom I'm supposed to feel bad for because they were treated so awfully by the townfolk, come off less like characters and more like lousy one-beat [[AuthorAvatar avatars]] for the writers (I'm so sorry you're famous and popular) for the um... "commentary" and "joke" they were trying to tell here, leading to the next point as to why this episode is garbage, the subversive "humor". Seeing characters [[ButtMonkey being put through a wringer]] is nothing new, as many shows (even this one) have done, but it's just so awkward and not at all well done. "Twilight was better when she had wings?" What kind of trash writing is this? Is this supposed to be a [[TakeThatAudience shot at the viewers]]? I know this was a common fan complaint back in like... 2013 or something, but it's ''2017'' and [[WereStillRelevantDammit it's not at all relevant anymore]] as most, if not all people have come to accept Princess Twilight with wings by now (or at the very least, quit complaining about it). Also, asking to stop [[AesopAmnesia repetitive]] lessons with Fluttershy isn't an unfair fanbrat nitpick, it's a legitimate criticism. If you're going to give the audience the middle finger, you need better material than that. What seals this episode's utter awfulness is the resolution. The Mane Six try to sing a song, it doesn't work as the folks still argue, and they've come to accept it. Okay, cool, but then the episode wants to have its cake and eat it too by slapping on a haphazard "heartwarming moment" by having Toola Roola and Coconut Cream telling the Mane Six they did a great job. No, episode, you can't copout like that. If you're going to do crap efforts at subversive and edgy meta humor like this, go all the way. M.A Larson even went on record to say that [[CreatorBacklash he didn't like]] how this episode turned out, and I can't say I blame him. ''This''... is just unacceptable. Easily among the worst, if not the ''worst'' episode of the entire series that just gets worse with repeated watches (At least to me). ''Fame And Misfortune'' belongs right down on the badness ladder with episodes like ''Putting Your Hoof Down''.

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** Spanks: We just may have a new candidate for the new worst episode in the show. Friendship Is Magic has had ([[SturgeonsLaw many]]) lackluster episodes and stinker efforts before. But ''this one''... hoo boy is this a whopper. ''Fame And Misfortune'' from its subject matter and the moral and theme it has, is an irredeemably terrible episode in all aspects. What honestly is it trying to do here? Is it trying to be funny? Is it trying to be hilarious with its wacky meta humor? Is it a commentary? Is it trying to be subversive and edgy? Does it want me to feel bad? Well, I don't feel any of those things. I simply [[EightDeadlyWords don't give a damn]] for ''anything'' in this episode. Even the Mane Six, whom I'm supposed to feel bad for because they were treated so awfully by the townfolk, come off less like characters and more like lousy one-beat [[AuthorAvatar avatars]] for the writers (I'm so sorry you're famous and popular) for the um... "commentary" and "joke" they were trying to tell here, leading to the next point as to why this episode is garbage, the subversive "humor". Seeing characters [[ButtMonkey being put through a wringer]] is nothing new, as many shows (even this one) have done, but it's just so awkward and not at all well done. "Twilight was better when before she had wings?" What kind of trash writing is this? Is this supposed to be a [[TakeThatAudience shot at the viewers]]? I know this was a common fan complaint back in like... 2013 or something, but it's ''2017'' and [[WereStillRelevantDammit it's not at all relevant anymore]] as most, if not all people have come to accept Princess Twilight with wings by now (or at the very least, quit complaining about it). Also, asking to stop [[AesopAmnesia repetitive]] lessons with Fluttershy isn't an unfair fanbrat nitpick, it's a legitimate criticism. If you're going to give the audience the middle finger, you need better material than that. What seals this episode's utter awfulness is the resolution. The Mane Six try to sing a song, it doesn't work as the folks still argue, and they've come to accept it. Okay, cool, but then the episode wants to have its cake and eat it too by slapping on a haphazard "heartwarming moment" by having Toola Roola and Coconut Cream telling the Mane Six they did a great job. No, episode, you can't copout like that. If you're going to do crap efforts at subversive and edgy meta humor like this, go all the way. M.A Larson even went on record to say that [[CreatorBacklash he didn't like]] how this episode turned out, and I can't say I blame him. ''This''... is just unacceptable. Easily among the worst, if not the ''worst'' episode of the entire series that just gets worse with repeated watches (At least to me). ''Fame And Misfortune'' belongs right down on the badness ladder with episodes like ''Putting Your Hoof Down''.
7th Sep '17 7:39:57 AM SenorCornholio
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** [=SenorCornholio=]: I never thought I'd change my entry so soon, but I simply can't wait to talk about this any longer. I know the episode has a few days to properly air overseas, but this episode has a moment that, I feel, is even ''worse'' than the above episode in its entirety. ''Daring Done?'' itself started off great, what with introducing Somnambula (the town and the hero), deconstructing and attempting to reconstruct Daring Do's adventures, and giving Dr. Caballeron a bit more character and painting him as a MagnificentBastard. However, the third act suffers from a massive EndingAversion that makes me really question if G.M. Berrow actually wrote this part of the episode, complete with Caballeron holding the VillainBall the entire rest of the way. What killed it for me was the following scene: [[PunctuatedForEmphasis Rainbow Dash. Got. Foalnapped!]] I get that Caballeron probably broke her spirit, but why did this have to happen in such a haphazard way? I understand ''someone'' had to be in danger for the climax to work, but this is Rainbow "Danger" Dash! It's one thing to take her flaws and not only heighten them, but briefly forget about her more noble qualities. It's quite another, however, to completely forget what she's all about. This is the mare that can perform a Sonic Rainboom near effortlessly. This is the pony that can outfly most ponies without breaking a sweat. This is a pony that has, time and time again, proven that she won't go down without a fight. She's been scared before, but we know for a fact that when danger strikes, she'll be there to combat it. And what does she do? She just sits there and lets Caballeron's minions take hold of her. I'm sorry, I have to stress again: [[BigWhat what?!]] These guys shouldn't even be able to lay a hoof on her, and yet here Rainbow is, just getting captured without any fanfare! In fact, this whole issue could have been avoided, had it been, say, Pinkie Pie that was captured instead; she could have thought they were leading her somewhere fun, and Daring and Rainbow could have teamed up to save her without their flight. But since Rainbow Dash, who would normally have held her own against some simple{{Mook}}s, ends up in this situation without any explanation of how she couldn't just ''fly away'', then it stands as probably one of the worst examples of {{Chickification}} since ''VideoGame/MetroidOtherM''.

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** [=SenorCornholio=]: I never thought I'd change my entry so soon, but I simply can't wait to talk about this any longer. I know the episode has a few days to properly air overseas, but this episode has a moment that, I feel, is even ''worse'' than the above episode in its entirety. ''Daring Done?'' itself started off great, what with introducing Somnambula (the town and the hero), deconstructing and attempting to reconstruct Daring Do's adventures, and giving Dr. Caballeron a bit more character and painting him as a MagnificentBastard. However, the third act suffers from a massive EndingAversion that makes me really question if G.M. Berrow actually wrote this part of the episode, complete with Caballeron holding the VillainBall the entire rest of the way. What killed it for me was the following scene: [[PunctuatedForEmphasis Rainbow Dash. Got. Foalnapped!]] I get that Caballeron probably broke her spirit, but why did this have to happen in such a haphazard way? I understand ''someone'' had to be in danger for the climax to work, but this is Rainbow "Danger" Dash! It's one thing to take her flaws and not only heighten them, but briefly forget about her more noble qualities. It's quite another, however, to completely forget what she's all about. This is the mare that can perform a Sonic Rainboom near effortlessly. This is the pony that can outfly most ponies without breaking a sweat. This is a pony that has, time and time again, proven that she won't go down without a fight. She's been scared before, but we know for a fact that when danger strikes, she'll be there to combat it. And what does she do? She just sits there and lets Caballeron's minions take hold of her. I'm sorry, I have to stress again: [[BigWhat what?!]] These guys shouldn't even be able to lay a hoof on her, and yet here Rainbow is, just getting captured without any fanfare! In fact, this whole issue could have been avoided, had it been, say, Pinkie Pie that was captured instead; she could have thought they were leading her somewhere fun, and Daring and Rainbow could have teamed up to save her without their flight. But since Rainbow Dash, who would normally have held her own against some simple{{Mook}}s, simple {{Mook}}s, ends up in this situation without any explanation of how she couldn't just ''fly away'', then it stands as probably one of the worst examples of {{Chickification}} since ''VideoGame/MetroidOtherM''.
7th Sep '17 7:38:21 AM SenorCornholio
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** [=SenorCornholio=]: I never thought I'd change my entry so soon, but I simply can't wait to talk about this any longer. I know the episode has a few days to properly air overseas, but this episode has a moment that, I feel, is even ''worse'' than the above episode in its entirety. ''Daring Done?'' itself started off great, what with introducing Somnambula (the town and the hero), deconstructing and attempting to reconstruct Daring Do's adventures, and giving Dr. Caballeron a bit more character and painting him as a MagnificentBastard. However, the third act suffers from a massive EndingAversion that makes me really question if G.M. Berrow actually wrote this part of the episode, complete with Caballeron holding the VillainBall the entire rest of the way. What killed it for me was the following scene: [[PunctuatedForEmphasis Rainbow Dash. Got. Foalnapped!]] I get that Caballeron probably broke her spirit, but why did this have to happen in such a haphazard way? I understand ''someone'' had to be in danger for the climax to work, but this is Rainbow "Danger" Dash! It's one thing to take her flaws and not only heighten them, but briefly forget about her more noble qualities. It's quite another, however, to completely forget what she's all about. This is the mare that can perform a Sonic Rainboom near effortlessly. This is the pony that can outfly most ponies without breaking a sweat. This is a pony that has, time and time again, proven that she won't go down without a fight. She's been scared before, but we know for a fact that when danger strikes, she'll be there to combat it. And what does she do? She just stands there and lets Caballeron's minions take hold of her. I'm sorry, I have to stress again: [[BigWhat what?!]] These guys shouldn't even be able to lay a hoof on her, and yet here Rainbow is, just getting captured without any fanfare! In fact, this whole issue could have been avoided, had it been, say, Pinkie Pie that was captured instead; she could have thought they were leading her somewhere fun, and Daring and Rainbow could have teamed up to save her without their wings. But since Rainbow Dash, who would normally have held her own against some simple{{Mook}}s, ends up in this situation without any explanation of how she couldn't just ''fly away'', then it stands as probably one of the worst examples of {{Chickification}} since ''VideoGame/MetroidOtherM''.

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** [=SenorCornholio=]: I never thought I'd change my entry so soon, but I simply can't wait to talk about this any longer. I know the episode has a few days to properly air overseas, but this episode has a moment that, I feel, is even ''worse'' than the above episode in its entirety. ''Daring Done?'' itself started off great, what with introducing Somnambula (the town and the hero), deconstructing and attempting to reconstruct Daring Do's adventures, and giving Dr. Caballeron a bit more character and painting him as a MagnificentBastard. However, the third act suffers from a massive EndingAversion that makes me really question if G.M. Berrow actually wrote this part of the episode, complete with Caballeron holding the VillainBall the entire rest of the way. What killed it for me was the following scene: [[PunctuatedForEmphasis Rainbow Dash. Got. Foalnapped!]] I get that Caballeron probably broke her spirit, but why did this have to happen in such a haphazard way? I understand ''someone'' had to be in danger for the climax to work, but this is Rainbow "Danger" Dash! It's one thing to take her flaws and not only heighten them, but briefly forget about her more noble qualities. It's quite another, however, to completely forget what she's all about. This is the mare that can perform a Sonic Rainboom near effortlessly. This is the pony that can outfly most ponies without breaking a sweat. This is a pony that has, time and time again, proven that she won't go down without a fight. She's been scared before, but we know for a fact that when danger strikes, she'll be there to combat it. And what does she do? She just stands sits there and lets Caballeron's minions take hold of her. I'm sorry, I have to stress again: [[BigWhat what?!]] These guys shouldn't even be able to lay a hoof on her, and yet here Rainbow is, just getting captured without any fanfare! In fact, this whole issue could have been avoided, had it been, say, Pinkie Pie that was captured instead; she could have thought they were leading her somewhere fun, and Daring and Rainbow could have teamed up to save her without their wings.flight. But since Rainbow Dash, who would normally have held her own against some simple{{Mook}}s, ends up in this situation without any explanation of how she couldn't just ''fly away'', then it stands as probably one of the worst examples of {{Chickification}} since ''VideoGame/MetroidOtherM''.
7th Sep '17 7:36:09 AM SenorCornholio
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** [=SenorCornholio=]: This is an episode that I, personally, have mixed feelings about, and most of them are negative. It's a "TakeThatAudience" episode, which admittedly was needed (though controversial by design) because some aspects of the fandom can be pretty awful (though [[WereStillRelevantDammit how well it did at that is up for debate]], as the below entry explains). And having a bunch of [[StrawFan Straw Fans]] as our antagonists, though extreme, was a good decision if only to show how far some of these fans will go. This episode could have actually been a close favorite of mine (I'm all for a good jab at the cancerous side of the fandom), had it not been for [[TheChewToy the treatment of the Mane Six]]. These are Equestria's heroes, who have saved the entire kingdom time and time again, out of the kindness of their own hearts. And what do they get for essentially showing their lessons to the world? Either dismissed (Twilight Sparkle), treated like dirt and boycotted (Rarity), continually laughed at (Pinkie Pie), harassed (Rainbow Dash, Fluttershy, Applejack), or objectified ([[UpToEleven all six of them]]). And even ponies like Twilight's old friend Lemon Hearts, as well as Daisy of the Flower Trio who ''really'' TookALevelInJerkass, are a part of the worst of all the groups (the anti-Rarity mob). The worst part is, even after all is said and done, [[KarmaHoudini very few of them]] [[IgnoredEpiphany learn their lesson at the end]]. The episode "tries" to end on a happy note by saying it'll all blow over soon, but it's hard for me to believe that the Mane Six would defend these ponies, some of which have, in Pinkie's words, "known them for years", after all they did. Even though everything is back to normal by the next episode, the entirety of Ponyville came off as downright ''nasty'' in this one. [[SincerityMode This is far from the Ponyville I love.]] It feels more like [[WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy Modern Quahog]] than a place I felt comfortable with, and that I would have wanted to be a part of. I hate this portrayal because this show is supposed to be about positivity, love and kindness, and this goes against that entire theme. Are there parts of the episode I like? Well, yeah; Toola Roola and Coconut Cream are adorable, the episode spawned some admittedly funny memes ("WHY, I'M CREATING A GOWN, DARLING!"), [[SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic the song was one of the best I've ever heard]], [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped and the messages in the episode were desperately needed]]. I just wish this episode didn't suffer in the characterization department so badly, to the point that [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere I nearly quit the show]]. That, to me, makes it worthy of being one of the worst episodes the show has produced; whether or not it's worse than ''[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS6E16TwentyEightPranksLater 28 Pranks Later]]'' or ''[[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirlsMagicalMovieNight Mirror Magic]]'' is debatable, but moments like this are not helping the BrokenBase that the later seasons have since become.
** Spanks: We just may have a new candidate for the new worst episode in the show. Friendship Is Magic has had ([[SturgeonsLaw many]]) lackluster episodes and stinker efforts before. But ''this one''... hoo boy is this a whopper. ''Fame And Misfortune'' from its subject matter and the moral and theme it has, is an irredeemably terrible episode in all aspects. What honestly is it trying to do here? Is it trying to be funny? Is it trying to be hilarious with its wacky meta humor? Is it a commentary? Is it trying to be subversive and edgy? Does it want me to feel bad? Well, I don't feel any of those things. I simply [[EightDeadlyWords don't give a damn]] for ''anything'' in this episode. Even the Mane Six, whom I'm supposed to feel bad for because they were treated so awfully by the townfolk, come off less like characters and more like lousy one-beat [[AuthorAvatar avatars]] for the writers (I'm so sorry you're famous and popular) for the um... "commentary" and "joke" they were trying to tell here, leading to the next point as to why this episode is garbage, the subversive "humor". Seeing characters [[ButtMonkey being put through a wringer]] is nothing new, as many shows (even this one) have done, but it's just so awkward and not at all well done. "Twilight was better when she had wings?" What kind of trash writing is this? Is this supposed to be a [[TakeThatAudience shot at the viewers]]? I know this was a common fan complaint back in like... 2013 or something, but it's ''2017'' and [[WereStillRelevantDammit it's not at all relevant anymore]] as most, if not all people have come to accept Princess Twilight with wings by now (or at the very least, quit complaining about it). Also, asking to stop [[AesopAmnesia repetitive]] lessons with Fluttershy isn't an unfair fanbrat nitpick, it's a legitimate criticism. If you're going to give the audience the middle finger, you need better material than that. What seals this episode's utter awfulness is the resolution. The Mane Six try to sing a song, it doesn't work as the folks still argue, and they've come to accept it. Okay, cool, but then the episode wants to have its cake and eat it too by slapping on a haphazard "heartwarming moment" by having Toola Roola and Coconut Cream telling the Mane Six they did a great job. No, episode, you can't copout like that. If you're going to do crap efforts at subversive and edgy meta humor like this, go all the way. M.A Larson even went on record to say that [[CreatorBacklash he didn't like]] how this episode turned out, and I can't say I blame him. ''This''... is just unacceptable. Easily among the worst, if not the ''worst'' episode of the entire series that just gets worse with repeated watches (At least to me). ''Fame And Misfortune'' belongs right down on the badness ladder with episodes like ''Putting Your Hoof Down''.

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** [=SenorCornholio=]: This is an episode that I, personally, have mixed feelings about, and most of them are negative. It's a "TakeThatAudience" episode, which admittedly was needed (though controversial by design) because some aspects of the fandom can be pretty awful (though [[WereStillRelevantDammit how well it did at that is up for debate]], as the below entry explains). And having a bunch of [[StrawFan Straw Fans]] as our antagonists, though extreme, was a good decision if only to show how far some of these fans will go. This episode could have actually been a close favorite of mine (I'm all for a good jab at the cancerous side of the fandom), had it not been for [[TheChewToy the treatment of the Mane Six]]. These are Equestria's heroes, who have saved the entire kingdom time and time again, out of the kindness of their own hearts. And what do they get for essentially showing their lessons to the world? Either dismissed (Twilight Sparkle), treated like dirt and boycotted (Rarity), continually laughed at (Pinkie Pie), harassed (Rainbow Dash, Fluttershy, Applejack), or objectified ([[UpToEleven all six of them]]). And even ponies like Twilight's old friend Lemon Hearts, as well as Daisy of the Flower Trio who ''really'' TookALevelInJerkass, are a part of the worst of all the groups (the anti-Rarity mob). The worst part is, even after all is said and done, [[KarmaHoudini very few of them]] [[IgnoredEpiphany learn their lesson at the end]]. The episode "tries" to end on a happy note by saying it'll all blow over soon, but it's hard for me to believe that the Mane Six would defend these ponies, some of which have, in Pinkie's words, "known them for years", after all they did. Even though everything is back to normal by the next episode, the entirety of Ponyville came off as downright ''nasty'' in this one. [[SincerityMode This is far from the Ponyville I love.]] It feels more like [[WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy Modern Quahog]] than a place I felt comfortable with, and that I would have wanted to be a part of. I hate this portrayal because this show is supposed to be about positivity, love and kindness, and this goes against that entire theme. Are there parts of the episode I like? Well, yeah; Toola Roola and Coconut Cream are adorable, the episode spawned some admittedly funny memes ("WHY, I'M CREATING A GOWN, DARLING!"), [[SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic the song was one of the best I've ever heard]], [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped and the messages in the episode were desperately needed]]. I just wish this episode didn't suffer in the characterization department so badly, to the point that [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere I nearly quit the show]]. That, to me, makes it worthy of being one of the worst episodes the show has produced; whether or not it's worse than ''[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS6E16TwentyEightPranksLater 28 Pranks Later]]'' or ''[[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirlsMagicalMovieNight Mirror Magic]]'' is debatable, but moments like this are not helping the BrokenBase that the later seasons have since become.
** Spanks: We just may have a new candidate for the new worst episode in the show. Friendship Is Magic has had ([[SturgeonsLaw many]]) lackluster episodes and stinker efforts before. But ''this one''... hoo boy is this a whopper. ''Fame And Misfortune'' from its subject matter and the moral and theme it has, is an irredeemably terrible episode in all aspects. What honestly is it trying to do here? Is it trying to be funny? Is it trying to be hilarious with its wacky meta humor? Is it a commentary? Is it trying to be subversive and edgy? Does it want me to feel bad? Well, I don't feel any of those things. I simply [[EightDeadlyWords don't give a damn]] for ''anything'' in this episode. Even the Mane Six, whom I'm supposed to feel bad for because they were treated so awfully by the townfolk, come off less like characters and more like lousy one-beat [[AuthorAvatar avatars]] for the writers (I'm so sorry you're famous and popular) for the um... "commentary" and "joke" they were trying to tell here, leading to the next point as to why this episode is garbage, the subversive "humor". Seeing characters [[ButtMonkey being put through a wringer]] is nothing new, as many shows (even this one) have done, but it's just so awkward and not at all well done. "Twilight was better when she had wings?" What kind of trash writing is this? Is this supposed to be a [[TakeThatAudience shot at the viewers]]? I know this was a common fan complaint back in like... 2013 or something, but it's ''2017'' and [[WereStillRelevantDammit it's not at all relevant anymore]] as most, if not all people have come to accept Princess Twilight with wings by now (or at the very least, quit complaining about it). Also, asking to stop [[AesopAmnesia repetitive]] lessons with Fluttershy isn't an unfair fanbrat nitpick, it's a legitimate criticism. If you're going to give the audience the middle finger, you need better material than that. What seals this episode's utter awfulness is the resolution. The Mane Six try to sing a song, it doesn't work as the folks still argue, and they've come to accept it. Okay, cool, but then the episode wants to have its cake and eat it too by slapping on a haphazard "heartwarming moment" by having Toola Roola and Coconut Cream telling the Mane Six they did a great job. No, episode, you can't copout like that. If you're going to do crap efforts at subversive and edgy meta humor like this, go all the way. M.A Larson even went on record to say that [[CreatorBacklash he didn't like]] how this episode turned out, and I can't say I blame him. ''This''... is just unacceptable. Easily among the worst, if not the ''worst'' episode of the entire series that just gets worse with repeated watches (At least to me). ''Fame And Misfortune'' belongs right down on the badness ladder with episodes like ''Putting Your Hoof Down''. Down''.
* [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS7E17DaringDone Daring Done?]]
** [=SenorCornholio=]: I never thought I'd change my entry so soon, but I simply can't wait to talk about this any longer. I know the episode has a few days to properly air overseas, but this episode has a moment that, I feel, is even ''worse'' than the above episode in its entirety. ''Daring Done?'' itself started off great, what with introducing Somnambula (the town and the hero), deconstructing and attempting to reconstruct Daring Do's adventures, and giving Dr. Caballeron a bit more character and painting him as a MagnificentBastard. However, the third act suffers from a massive EndingAversion that makes me really question if G.M. Berrow actually wrote this part of the episode, complete with Caballeron holding the VillainBall the entire rest of the way. What killed it for me was the following scene: [[PunctuatedForEmphasis Rainbow Dash. Got. Foalnapped!]] I get that Caballeron probably broke her spirit, but why did this have to happen in such a haphazard way? I understand ''someone'' had to be in danger for the climax to work, but this is Rainbow "Danger" Dash! It's one thing to take her flaws and not only heighten them, but briefly forget about her more noble qualities. It's quite another, however, to completely forget what she's all about. This is the mare that can perform a Sonic Rainboom near effortlessly. This is the pony that can outfly most ponies without breaking a sweat. This is a pony that has, time and time again, proven that she won't go down without a fight. She's been scared before, but we know for a fact that when danger strikes, she'll be there to combat it. And what does she do? She just stands there and lets Caballeron's minions take hold of her. I'm sorry, I have to stress again: [[BigWhat what?!]] These guys shouldn't even be able to lay a hoof on her, and yet here Rainbow is, just getting captured without any fanfare! In fact, this whole issue could have been avoided, had it been, say, Pinkie Pie that was captured instead; she could have thought they were leading her somewhere fun, and Daring and Rainbow could have teamed up to save her without their wings. But since Rainbow Dash, who would normally have held her own against some simple{{Mook}}s, ends up in this situation without any explanation of how she couldn't just ''fly away'', then it stands as probably one of the worst examples of {{Chickification}} since ''VideoGame/MetroidOtherM''.
5th Sep '17 12:02:57 PM SenorCornholio
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** [=SenorCornholio=]: This is an episode that I, personally, have mixed feelings about, and most of them are negative. It's a "TakeThatAudience" episode, which admittedly was needed (though controversial by design) because some aspects of the fandom can be pretty awful (though [[WereStillRelevantDammit how well it did at that is up for debate]], as the below entry explains). And having a bunch of [[StrawFan Straw Fans]] as our antagonists, though extreme, was a good decision if only to show how far some of these fans will go. What This episode could have actually been a close favorite of mine (I'm all for a good jab at the cancerous side of the fandom), had it not been for [[TheChewToy the treatment of the Mane Six]]. These are Equestria's heroes, who have saved the entire kingdom time and time again, out of the kindness of their own hearts. And what do they get for essentially showing their lessons to the world? Either dismissed (Twilight Sparkle), treated like dirt and boycotted (Rarity), continually laughed at (Pinkie Pie), harassed (Rainbow Dash, Fluttershy, Applejack), or objectified ([[UpToEleven all six of them]]). And even ponies like Twilight's old friend Lemon Hearts, as well as Daisy of the Flower Trio who ''really'' TookALevelInJerkass, are a part of the worst of all the groups (the anti-Rarity mob). The worst part is, even after all is said and done, [[KarmaHoudini very few of them]] [[IgnoredEpiphany learn their lesson at the end]]. The episode "tries" to end on a happy note by saying it'll all blow over soon, but it's hard for me to believe that the Mane Six would defend these ponies, some of which have, in Pinkie's words, "known them for years", after all they did. Even though everything is back to normal by the next episode, the entirety of Ponyville came off as downright ''nasty'' in this one. [[SincerityMode This is far from the Ponyville I love.]] It feels more like [[WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy Modern Quahog]] than a place I felt comfortable with, and that I would have wanted to be a part of. I hate this portrayal because this show is supposed to be about positivity, love and kindness, and this goes against that entire theme. Are there parts of the episode I like? Well, yeah; Toola Roola and Coconut Cream are adorable, the episode spawned some admittedly funny memes ("WHY, I'M CREATING A GOWN, DARLING!"), [[SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic the song was one of the best I've ever heard]], [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped and the messages in the episode were desperately needed]]. I just wish this episode didn't suffer in the characterization department so badly, to the point that [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere I nearly quit the show]]. That, to me, makes it worthy of being one of the worst episodes the show has produced; whether or not it's worse than ''[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS6E16TwentyEightPranksLater 28 Pranks Later]]'' or ''[[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirlsMagicalMovieNight Mirror Magic]]'' is debatable, but moments like this are not helping the BrokenBase that the later seasons have since become.

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** [=SenorCornholio=]: This is an episode that I, personally, have mixed feelings about, and most of them are negative. It's a "TakeThatAudience" episode, which admittedly was needed (though controversial by design) because some aspects of the fandom can be pretty awful (though [[WereStillRelevantDammit how well it did at that is up for debate]], as the below entry explains). And having a bunch of [[StrawFan Straw Fans]] as our antagonists, though extreme, was a good decision if only to show how far some of these fans will go. What This episode could have actually been a close favorite of mine (I'm all for a good jab at the cancerous side of the fandom), had it not been for [[TheChewToy the treatment of the Mane Six]]. These are Equestria's heroes, who have saved the entire kingdom time and time again, out of the kindness of their own hearts. And what do they get for essentially showing their lessons to the world? Either dismissed (Twilight Sparkle), treated like dirt and boycotted (Rarity), continually laughed at (Pinkie Pie), harassed (Rainbow Dash, Fluttershy, Applejack), or objectified ([[UpToEleven all six of them]]). And even ponies like Twilight's old friend Lemon Hearts, as well as Daisy of the Flower Trio who ''really'' TookALevelInJerkass, are a part of the worst of all the groups (the anti-Rarity mob). The worst part is, even after all is said and done, [[KarmaHoudini very few of them]] [[IgnoredEpiphany learn their lesson at the end]]. The episode "tries" to end on a happy note by saying it'll all blow over soon, but it's hard for me to believe that the Mane Six would defend these ponies, some of which have, in Pinkie's words, "known them for years", after all they did. Even though everything is back to normal by the next episode, the entirety of Ponyville came off as downright ''nasty'' in this one. [[SincerityMode This is far from the Ponyville I love.]] It feels more like [[WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy Modern Quahog]] than a place I felt comfortable with, and that I would have wanted to be a part of. I hate this portrayal because this show is supposed to be about positivity, love and kindness, and this goes against that entire theme. Are there parts of the episode I like? Well, yeah; Toola Roola and Coconut Cream are adorable, the episode spawned some admittedly funny memes ("WHY, I'M CREATING A GOWN, DARLING!"), [[SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic the song was one of the best I've ever heard]], [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped and the messages in the episode were desperately needed]]. I just wish this episode didn't suffer in the characterization department so badly, to the point that [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere I nearly quit the show]]. That, to me, makes it worthy of being one of the worst episodes the show has produced; whether or not it's worse than ''[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS6E16TwentyEightPranksLater 28 Pranks Later]]'' or ''[[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirlsMagicalMovieNight Mirror Magic]]'' is debatable, but moments like this are not helping the BrokenBase that the later seasons have since become.
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