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* Tropers/{{OrdinaryTroper}}: Look, I still think ''Music/{{Sabaton}}'' are a great band, I like most of their songs, but there are some that, due to their subject and how it's presented, hit the wrong way. I could've chosen "[[UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo Soldier of Three Armies]]" or "[[UsefulNotes/ArabIsraeliConflict Counterstrike]]", but instead I'll settle on "[[UsefulNotes/WarOnTerror Panzer Battalion]]". Politics or not, it tells of an unprovoked invasion which sparked a 14-year long war which cost millions of lives (inc. 200,000+ civillian lives), sung from the agressor's POV. And I would be fine with that, but unlike "We Burn", where we are crearly meant to root against the VillainProtagonist, in "Panzer Battalion" the Americans are never called out on their actions, their crimes, their lies in the lead-up to the war, etc. And yeah, I guess they ''do'' call out the [=US=] on their WMD allegations in the Sabaton History video, but even there they make the Iraqis look like the greater evil. It wouldn't hurt near as much if it wasn't the most recent event Sabaton made a song about.
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** Tropers/MelancholyUtopia: I'd argue she sunk low even before "Anaconda", with the godawful ear diarrhea that is "Stupid Hoe". Garbage lyrics (she raps about how someone is a bitch and a [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin stupid hoe]]), garbage hook (annoying techno noises which sounds like a robot's dying breath), garbage video (clashing colours, ugly outfits, Nicki's creepy large eyes). I find absolutely nothing redeemable about it whatsoever. The worst part towards the end where she just repeatedly repeats "fuck a stupid hoe" in the most grating voice imaginable, it's on par with her annoying laugh in "Anaconda". The fact that this song is even on the same album as bangers like "Starships", "Va Va Voom", "Pound the Alarm" and "Marilyn Monroe" is an absolute insult. I'm neutral towards Nicki in general, but even I know she's capable of doing way better music, as I've just pointed out.
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** Tropers/MelancholyUtopia: I voted Music/KatyPerry's "I Kissed a Girl" as my most hated song... until Meghan Trainor's "All About That Bass" came along and beat it by 100 miles. I really can't stand this song. It was to the point I sadistically enjoyed WebVideo/BartBaker ripping it apart, someone I otherwise don't really like. But enough prolonging, and let me explain why it's terrible; 1) I would like to make it perfectly clear that, as a skinny girl, I have absolutely no problem with songs about positive big body image, but only if the girl is naturally a bit bigger and tries to work out. A good example of this kind of song is Music/{{MIKA}}'s "Big Girls", which I often mention as a body image positivity song done right. What I do have a problem with is saying skinny girls are undesirable because they don't have big butts. I have a small butt myself. But apparently I'm undesirable because boys only want to grab onto some meat. Then again, why should I care? Oh, right; because the song mentions that twice. ("'Cause I got that boom boom that all the boys chase, all the right junk in all the right places", "She said that boys like a little more booty to hold at night"). Yes, [[SarcasmMode because the opinions of a bunch of horny sleazeballs should factor into my self-esteem and self-confidence.]] Way to bend over your message and pork it from behind, Maggie. 2) Meghan Trainor isn't even that fat. She's one of the last people on Earth who should be singing this song, and try to be a representative of those girls who actually have a problem with their weight. 3) The version of the song on ''VideoGame/JustDance 2016'' has lyrics which are a 100 times better and more on point. Couldn't this have been the official version instead? Then I would have tolerated it, at least. 4) I've never seen a song which lyrics contradict themselves so much all at once. She sings: "Tell them skinny bitches that, nah I'm just playing, I know you think you're fat, but I'm here to tell you every inch of you is perfect from the bottom to the top"... oh, really now? Didn't you just say a second ago being chubby is the ideal body form? So we who are skinny have too little flesh on our bones, but we're also perfect somehow? MindScrew at its finest.

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** Tropers/MelancholyUtopia: I voted Music/KatyPerry's "I Kissed a Girl" as my most hated song... until Meghan Trainor's "All About That Bass" came along and beat it by 100 miles. I really can't stand this song. It was to the point I sadistically enjoyed WebVideo/BartBaker ripping it apart, someone I otherwise don't really like. But enough prolonging, and let me explain why it's terrible; 1) I would like to make it perfectly clear that, as a skinny girl, I have absolutely no problem with songs about positive big body image, positivity, but only if the girl is naturally a bit bigger and tries to work out. A good example of this kind of song is Music/{{MIKA}}'s "Big Girls", which I often mention as a body image positivity song done right. What I do have a problem with is saying skinny girls are undesirable because they don't have big butts. I have a small butt myself. But apparently I'm undesirable because boys only want to grab onto some meat. Then again, why should I care? Oh, right; because the song mentions that twice. ("'Cause I got that boom boom that all the boys chase, all the right junk in all the right places", "She said that boys like a little more booty to hold at night"). Yes, [[SarcasmMode because the opinions of a bunch of horny sleazeballs should factor into my self-esteem and self-confidence.]] Way to bend over your message and pork it from behind, Maggie. 2) Meghan Trainor isn't even that fat. She's one of the last people on Earth who should be singing this song, and try to be a representative of those girls who actually have a problem with their weight. 3) The version of the song on ''VideoGame/JustDance 2016'' has lyrics which are a 100 times better and more on point. Couldn't this have been the official version instead? Then I would have tolerated it, at least. 4) I've never seen a song which lyrics contradict themselves so much all at once. She sings: "Tell them skinny bitches that, nah I'm just playing, I know you think you're fat, but I'm here to tell you every inch of you is perfect from the bottom to the top"... oh, really now? Didn't you just say a second ago being chubby is the ideal body form? So we who are skinny have too little flesh on our bones, but we're also perfect somehow? MindScrew at its finest.

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* Tropers/{{IAmNotAFunguy}}: The music video for Beyonce's song "Formation" is one that puts me over the edge as someone with a profound support of law enforcement. The video shows Beyonce sitting on top of a half-submerged police car, and at one point shows a young black man pointing a gun at sever officers while their hands are up and they are standing against a wall with graffiti reading "Stop shooting us!" This song and video was a response to incidents where young black males like Michael Brown and Tamir Rice were shot and killed by police officers, but 95% of these cases were the result of these young men acting like thugs and attempting something violent against the police officers on scene. Beyonce herself as well as her husband Jay-Z clearly ignore this fact, and she designed the song and music video specifically to vilify all of America's police officers and picture them as nothing but armed assassins out to execute African American males.
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* Tropers/MewLettuceRush: P!nk's song "Please Don't Leave Me" was a major DMOS once I came to the realization that it was basically glorified DomesticAbuse from the perpetrator no less! ( the line "you're my perfect little punching bag" makes me throw up in my mouth now in particular). [[DoubleStandard If the song were sung by a male it would have never become popular much less been made]]. While she is generally a talented artist with some truly great songs, I don't ever want to listen to this one again.

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* Tropers/MewLettuceRush: P!nk's song "Please Don't Leave Me" was a major DMOS once I came to the realization that it was basically glorified DomesticAbuse from the perpetrator no less! ( the (the line "you're my perfect little punching bag" makes me throw up in my mouth now in particular). [[DoubleStandard If the song were sung by a male it would have never become popular much less been made]]. While she is generally a talented artist with some truly great songs, I don't ever want to listen to this one again.



*** rage24: A lot of her songs are pretty awful, but [[ItsAllAboutMe "Me Too"]] has to be the most obnoxious. It's 3 minutes of her singing about how awesome she, that's it. The chorus is literally "If I was you, I'd want to be me too, I'd want to be me too, I'd want to be me too" x2.

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*** rage24: A lot of her songs are pretty awful, but [[ItsAllAboutMe "Me Too"]] has to be the most obnoxious. It's 3 minutes of her singing about how awesome she, she is, that's it. The chorus is literally "If I was you, I'd want to be me too, I'd want to be me too, I'd want to be me too" x2.
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* RobHas: Opinions about Music/Blink182 [[BrokenBase has always been polarized]] about whether they are better with or without Tom Delonge. But one thing I can say is that their collaboration project with Music/LilWayne titled "What's My Age Again? / A Mili" sounds really bad. Instead of using an already existing recording, the band decided to have Mark, already a middle aged man during the recording process, re-singing the chorus, which makes it sounds [[{{Narm}} narmy thanks to the ValueDissonance of the lyrical theme]]. Lil Wayne's rapping makes the already awkward song becomes even weirder. In my honest opinion, "What's My Age Again?" is a good pop-punk relic for its time and should be embraced as it is instead of trying to modernize the song and potentially butchering it.

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* RobHas: Opinions about Music/Blink182 [[BrokenBase has always been polarized]] about whether they are better with or without Tom Delonge. But one thing I can say is that their collaboration project with Music/LilWayne titled "What's My Age Again? / A Mili" sounds really bad. Instead of using an already existing recording, the band decided to have Mark, already a middle aged man during the recording process, re-singing the chorus, which makes it sounds [[{{Narm}} narmy narmy]] thanks to the ValueDissonance ValuesDissonance of the lyrical theme]].theme. Lil Wayne's rapping makes the already awkward song becomes even weirder. In my honest opinion, "What's My Age Again?" is a good pop-punk relic for its time and should be embraced as it is instead of trying to modernize the song and potentially butchering it.
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* RobHas: Opinions about Music/Blink182 [[BrokenBase has always been polarized]] about whether they are better with or without Tom Delonge. But one thing I can say is that their collaboration project with Music/LilWayne titled "What's My Age Again? / A Mili" sounds really bad. Instead of using an already existing recording, the band decided to have Mark, already a middle aged man during the recording process, re-singing the chorus, which makes it sounds [[{{Narm}} narmy thanks to the ValueDissonance of the lyrical theme]]. Lil Wayne's rapping makes the already awkward song becomes even weirder. In my honest opinion, "What's My Age Again?" is a good pop-punk relic for its time and should be embraced as it is instead of trying to modernize the song and potentially butchering it.

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* ScarletNebula: I had a lot of respect and sympathy for Music/{{Rihanna}} after the abuse. Flash forward to 2012 where she does a terrible song with Music/ChrisBrown called "Birthday Cake" which is basically [[IntercourseWithYou every sexual rap/hip hop song]] but it's [[{{Squick}} not sexy]]. It's the single most disgusting track I ever heard. Rihanna, {{what were you thinking}}?

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ScarletNebula: I had a lot of respect and sympathy for Music/{{Rihanna}} after the abuse. Flash forward to 2012 where she does a terrible song with Music/ChrisBrown called "Birthday Cake" which is basically [[IntercourseWithYou every sexual rap/hip hop song]] but it's [[{{Squick}} not sexy]]. It's the single most disgusting track I ever heard. Rihanna, {{what were you thinking}}?



** Tropers/MelancholyUtopia: "Unfaithful" by Music/{{Rihanna}} has always put a bad taste in my mouth. I don't know if it was the intention of the lyricist, but I don't find the narrator sympathetic at all. It focuses way too much on how her partner feels about her cheating rather than how she herself feels about it, which makes it come off as her only caring about it because he's aware of her cheating. It's always "he's dying a little more inside" or "might as well put a gun to his head", but she doesn't even once express any guilt over the fact that she broke his trust to begin with. Oh wait, yes she does... because he ''knows'', not because she would feel bad about going behind his back or anything. Hell, she even says "to know that I am happy with some other guy", telling it wasn't a one-time thing but a full-fledged, ongoing affair she willfully pursues and enjoys. I don't like "Anyone of Us" by Gareth Gates for similar reasons, but at least there the narrator accepts all responsibility for his own actions, plus it was an impulsive mistake he actually felt guilty about. This song, however? Nope, you're just a cheater feeling bad for getting caught. It's a shame the melody is really good.



* Tropers/MelancholyUtopia: "Unfaithful" by Music/{{Rihanna}} has always put a bad taste in my mouth. I don't know if it was the intention of the lyricist, but I don't find the narrator sympathetic at all. It focuses way too much on how her partner feels about her cheating rather than how she herself feels about it, which makes it come off as her only caring about it because he's aware of her cheating. It's always "he's dying a little more inside" or "might as well put a gun to his head", but she doesn't even once express any guilt over the fact that she broke his trust to begin with. Oh wait, yes she does... because he ''knows'', not because she would feel bad about going behind his back or anything. Hell, she even says "to know that I am happy with some other guy", telling it wasn't a one-time thing but a full-fledged, ongoing affair she willfully pursues and enjoys. I don't like "Anyone of Us" by Gareth Gates for similar reasons, but at least there the narrator accepts all responsibility for his own actions, plus it was an impulsive mistake he actually felt guilty about. This song, however? Nope, you're just a cheater feeling bad for getting caught. It's a shame the melody is really good.
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** Tropers/MelancholyUtopia: I voted Music/KatyPerry's "I Kissed a Girl" as my most hated song... until Meghan Trainor's "All About That Bass" came along and beat it by 100 miles. I really can't stand this song. It was to the point I sadistically enjoyed WebVideo/BartBaker ripping it apart, someone I otherwise don't really like. But enough prolonging, and let me explain why it's terrible; 1) I would like to make it perfectly clear that, as a skinny girl, I have absolutely no problem with songs about positive big body image, but only if the girl is naturally a bit bigger and tries to work out. A good example of this kind of song is Music/{{MIKA}}'s "Big Girls", which I often mention as a body image positivity song done right. What I do have a problem with is saying skinny girls are undesirable because they don't have big butts. I have a small butt myself. But apparently I'm undesirable because boys only want to grab onto some meat. Then again, why should I care? Oh, right; because the song mentions that twice. ("'Cause I got that boom boom that all the boys chase, all the right junk in all the right places", "She said that boys like a little more booty to hold at night"). So, basically, you're saying I should only have a big body to make guys horny? Is that it? You're not supposed to make your body look good for yourself? I'm not a person, just a hunk of flesh meant to be a sex object? Okay. 2) Meghan Trainor isn't even that fat. She's one of the last people on Earth who should be singing this song, and try to be a representative of those girls who actually have a problem with their weight. 3) The version of the song on ''VideoGame/JustDance 2016'' has lyrics which are a 100 times better and more on point. Couldn't this have been the official version instead? Then I would have tolerated it, at least. 4) I've never seen a song which lyrics contradict themselves so much all at once. She sings: "Tell them skinny bitches that, nah I'm just playing, I know you think you're fat, but I'm here to tell you every inch of you is perfect from the bottom to the top"... oh, really now? Didn't you just say a second ago being chubby is the ideal body form? So we who are skinny have too little flesh on our bones, but we're also perfect somehow? MindScrew at its finest.

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** Tropers/MelancholyUtopia: I voted Music/KatyPerry's "I Kissed a Girl" as my most hated song... until Meghan Trainor's "All About That Bass" came along and beat it by 100 miles. I really can't stand this song. It was to the point I sadistically enjoyed WebVideo/BartBaker ripping it apart, someone I otherwise don't really like. But enough prolonging, and let me explain why it's terrible; 1) I would like to make it perfectly clear that, as a skinny girl, I have absolutely no problem with songs about positive big body image, but only if the girl is naturally a bit bigger and tries to work out. A good example of this kind of song is Music/{{MIKA}}'s "Big Girls", which I often mention as a body image positivity song done right. What I do have a problem with is saying skinny girls are undesirable because they don't have big butts. I have a small butt myself. But apparently I'm undesirable because boys only want to grab onto some meat. Then again, why should I care? Oh, right; because the song mentions that twice. ("'Cause I got that boom boom that all the boys chase, all the right junk in all the right places", "She said that boys like a little more booty to hold at night"). So, basically, you're saying I Yes, [[SarcasmMode because the opinions of a bunch of horny sleazeballs should only have a big body factor into my self-esteem and self-confidence.]] Way to make guys horny? Is that it? You're not supposed to make bend over your body look good for yourself? I'm not a person, just a hunk of flesh meant to be a sex object? Okay.message and pork it from behind, Maggie. 2) Meghan Trainor isn't even that fat. She's one of the last people on Earth who should be singing this song, and try to be a representative of those girls who actually have a problem with their weight. 3) The version of the song on ''VideoGame/JustDance 2016'' has lyrics which are a 100 times better and more on point. Couldn't this have been the official version instead? Then I would have tolerated it, at least. 4) I've never seen a song which lyrics contradict themselves so much all at once. She sings: "Tell them skinny bitches that, nah I'm just playing, I know you think you're fat, but I'm here to tell you every inch of you is perfect from the bottom to the top"... oh, really now? Didn't you just say a second ago being chubby is the ideal body form? So we who are skinny have too little flesh on our bones, but we're also perfect somehow? MindScrew at its finest.
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* Tropers/MelancholyUtopia: "Unfaithful" by Music/{{Rihanna}} has always put a bad taste in my mouth. I don't know if it was the intention of the lyricist, but I don't find the narrator sympathetic at all. It focuses way too much on how her partner feels about her cheating rather than how she herself feels about it, which makes it come off as her only caring about it because he's aware of her cheating. It's always "he's dying a little more inside" or "might as well put a gun to his head", but she doesn't even once express any guilt over the fact that she broke his trust to begin with. Oh wait, yes she does... because he ''knows'', not because she would feel bad about going behind his back or anything. Hell, she even says "to know that I am happy with some other guy", telling it wasn't a one-time thing but an affair she willfully pursues and enjoys. I don't like "Anyone of Us" by Gareth Gates for similar reasons, but at least there the narrator accepts all responsibility for his own actions, plus it was an impulsive mistake he actually felt guilty about. This song, however? Nope, you're just a cheater feeling bad for getting caught. It's a shame the melody is really good.

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* Tropers/MelancholyUtopia: "Unfaithful" by Music/{{Rihanna}} has always put a bad taste in my mouth. I don't know if it was the intention of the lyricist, but I don't find the narrator sympathetic at all. It focuses way too much on how her partner feels about her cheating rather than how she herself feels about it, which makes it come off as her only caring about it because he's aware of her cheating. It's always "he's dying a little more inside" or "might as well put a gun to his head", but she doesn't even once express any guilt over the fact that she broke his trust to begin with. Oh wait, yes she does... because he ''knows'', not because she would feel bad about going behind his back or anything. Hell, she even says "to know that I am happy with some other guy", telling it wasn't a one-time thing but an a full-fledged, ongoing affair she willfully pursues and enjoys. I don't like "Anyone of Us" by Gareth Gates for similar reasons, but at least there the narrator accepts all responsibility for his own actions, plus it was an impulsive mistake he actually felt guilty about. This song, however? Nope, you're just a cheater feeling bad for getting caught. It's a shame the melody is really good.
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* Tropers/MelancholyUtopia: "Unfaithful" by Rihanna has always put a bad taste in my mouth. I don't know if it was the intention of the lyricist, but I don't find the narrator sympathetic at all. It focuses way too much on how her partner feels about her cheating rather than how she herself feels about it, which makes it come off as her only caring about it because he's aware of her cheating. It's always "he's dying a little more inside" or "might as well put a gun to his head", but she doesn't even once express any guilt over the fact that she broke his trust to begin with. Oh wait, yes she does... because he ''knows'', not because she would feel bad about going behind his back or anything. Hell, she even says "to know that I am happy with some other guy", telling it wasn't a one-time thing but an affair she willfully pursues and enjoys. I don't like "Anyone of Us" by Gareth Gates for similar reasons, but at least there the narrator accepts all responsibility for his own actions, plus it was an impulsive mistake he actually felt guilty about. This song, however? Nope, you're just a cheater feeling bad for getting caught. It's a shame the melody is really good.

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* Tropers/MelancholyUtopia: "Unfaithful" by Rihanna Music/{{Rihanna}} has always put a bad taste in my mouth. I don't know if it was the intention of the lyricist, but I don't find the narrator sympathetic at all. It focuses way too much on how her partner feels about her cheating rather than how she herself feels about it, which makes it come off as her only caring about it because he's aware of her cheating. It's always "he's dying a little more inside" or "might as well put a gun to his head", but she doesn't even once express any guilt over the fact that she broke his trust to begin with. Oh wait, yes she does... because he ''knows'', not because she would feel bad about going behind his back or anything. Hell, she even says "to know that I am happy with some other guy", telling it wasn't a one-time thing but an affair she willfully pursues and enjoys. I don't like "Anyone of Us" by Gareth Gates for similar reasons, but at least there the narrator accepts all responsibility for his own actions, plus it was an impulsive mistake he actually felt guilty about. This song, however? Nope, you're just a cheater feeling bad for getting caught. It's a shame the melody is really good.
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* Tropers/MelancholyUtopia: "Unfaithful" by Rihanna has always put a bad taste in my mouth. I don't know if it was the intention of the lyricist, but I don't find the narrator sympathetic at all. It focuses way too much on how her partner feels about her cheating rather than how she herself feels about it, which makes it come off as her only caring about it because he's aware of her cheating. It's always "he's dying a little more inside" or "might as well put a gun to his head", but she doesn't even once express any guilt over the fact that she broke his trust to begin with. Oh wait, yes she does... because he ''knows'', not because she would feel bad about going behind his back or anything. Hell, she even says "to know that I am happy with some other guy", telling it wasn't a one-time thing but an affair she willfully pursues. I don't like "Anyone of Us" by Gareth Gates for similar reasons, but at least the narrator there accepts all of the blame for what happened, plus it was an impulsive mistake he felt guilty about. This song, however? Nope, you're just a cheater feeling bad for getting caught. It's a shame the melody is really good.

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* Tropers/MelancholyUtopia: "Unfaithful" by Rihanna has always put a bad taste in my mouth. I don't know if it was the intention of the lyricist, but I don't find the narrator sympathetic at all. It focuses way too much on how her partner feels about her cheating rather than how she herself feels about it, which makes it come off as her only caring about it because he's aware of her cheating. It's always "he's dying a little more inside" or "might as well put a gun to his head", but she doesn't even once express any guilt over the fact that she broke his trust to begin with. Oh wait, yes she does... because he ''knows'', not because she would feel bad about going behind his back or anything. Hell, she even says "to know that I am happy with some other guy", telling it wasn't a one-time thing but an affair she willfully pursues. pursues and enjoys. I don't like "Anyone of Us" by Gareth Gates for similar reasons, but at least there the narrator there accepts all of the blame responsibility for what happened, his own actions, plus it was an impulsive mistake he actually felt guilty about. This song, however? Nope, you're just a cheater feeling bad for getting caught. It's a shame the melody is really good.

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