History DethroningMoment / Comicbooks

* Tropers/MightyMewtron: I enjoy the ''ComicBook/{{Futurama}}'' comics, though generally not as much as the show, partially due to characterization issues. However, one comic made me angrier than almost anything else in the show: Issue #41, "Soldier Boys." The main plot, with Dwight and Cubert becoming cadets under Zapp with a B-plot of Bender going on a pranking spree with his robot fraternity, is just okay. It's the characterization of Leela that infuriates me. Zapp doesn't remember who she is, which causes Leela to obsess over it, with the added detail that she's been counting down the days since their sole sexual encounter. She spends the night ranting to Fry about it (never mind how Fry and Leela had a ton of ShipTease by this point in the show, and even earlier issues in the comics), and goes off to rescue him, only to get [[DamselInDistress captured and tied up by Nixon]]. Zapp arrives and saves her, and the true dethroning moment happens when Leela kisses him to snap him out of his brainwashing. When it was revealed Nixon had brainwashed Zapp and the boys to join his ranks, I was hoping they'd also reveal Leela had been brainwashed too, because this is all completely antithetical to her [[AbhorrentAdmirer usual feelings toward Zapp]]. Unfortunately no such thing happens. They just decided to write her as obsessed with Zapp instead of finding her annoying, and added more fuel to the fire by having the usually incompetent Zapp save her. The issue also seems to downplay Zapp's buffoonery a bit, possibly so it'll be less glaring that Leela is suddenly into him. This unfortunately seems to be a trend for this writer (who also wrote [[Recap/FuturamaS7E5ZappDingbat an episode]] that wrote Leela as uncomfortably fixated on Zapp, complete with shoehorned fanservice), but nowhere is it as glaring and gratuitous as this comic.

* JaredTropes: There is YankTheDogsChain and there there’s... Creator/BongoComics. While I liked Comicbook/TheSimpsons in my younger years, my love for it has slowly faded away over the past decade due to its Flanderization of characters that uses to be good, and the multiple TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot moments. My least favourite Simpsons comic story was the final issue of Bart Simpson, Son of Homer’s Odyssey. For one thing, everything in and behind it was fucking horrible, but if there’s one thing that broke my Bongo Comics life, it’s the final chapter of the story, “Chapter VII: Everything must go!” This was the moment that [[FranchiseKiller killed the entire company for me]] due to the most insulting thing ever seen in a comic book: the destruction of Springfield. It was all Robot Millhouse’s fault that the town was destroyed, but what made me stop reading them was the moment when Frink visited the Simpsons and telled them that until the city is built up again, they may continue to use his reality glasses. And it’s no joke: the main character of the story, Bart took them off by purpose, and seeing that Springfield is totally destroyed, Frink reminds him that he should wear them so they can pretend that nothing happened with the help of his program The Multiple Augmented Tactile Targeted Gigabyte Repository of Engineered Normalty Interfacing Nascent Genomes (M.A.T.T.G.R.O.E.N.I.N.G.), and it completely made me angry. Wearing it all the time during the apocalypse is the worst time ever done in a comic book, and it made me quit a comic book series that has overstayed its welcome. I’m still going back to ReadComicOnline to read a few old Simpsons books, but for now on? I’m switching over to [[WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons the TV show]]. Bye bye, you lucky yellow dickheads.

* Tropers/MelancholyUtopia: I'm glad I'm not the only one who hates this abomination. When I was little, I always skipped this part in the book it featured in. It's beyond comprehension how everyone can shun somebody for making an honest mistake like that. The fact that it was his daydream says a lot about the poor duck's confidence, too. That aside, I find it unbelievable how everyone blames Donald for losing their bets on him. Whomever you bet on is not his fault and shouldn't be a scapegoat for you throwing your money carelessly away. Especially Scrooge, since he's, y'know, the richest guy in the world. And Donald gets zero sympathy from anyone, not even his nephews. It's so needlessly cruel to my favorite Disney character. I can't stress this enough.

* Homor: Image Comics' ComicBook/{{Supreme}} started out as a goofy but fun and engaging NinetiesAntiHero book about a violent and egotistical ComicBook/{{Superman}}-expy who had good intentions but often went too far and acted like a KnightTemplar. When Creator/AlanMoore took over the book, he retooled it into a loving and fun tribute to the history and mythos Superman and classic comics in general. Moore's version was a great read and considered by many to be the [[MyRealDaddy definitive]] version of the character. Moore never got to write the ending he wanted to, but the ending we got was good enough and ended with Supreme and his love interest, Diana, finally hooking up. When people heard Image was producing Moore's last finished script and continuing the character, people were excited. Unfortunately, the trouble started when Creator/ErikLarson announced he wanted to mix Liefeld's original Supreme with Moore's version. A concept most of the fandom was ambivalent to at best, but a talented writer could make work. What followed was a four-issue "Fuck You" to fans of Moore's version as everything about it was defiled, destroyed, ruined and all the characters were completely derailed. The plot is that a horribly {{Flanderiz|ation}}ed version of Liefeld's Supreme escaped and started brutally murdering and beating people for no good reason other than to be a jerk as everyone else meanders around with nothing meaningful to do. Fans were initially cautiously optimistic, but as Larson's run continued on people started to realize what was happening and sales tanked immediately, leading the book to end abruptly without any resolution -- not that anyone even cared. Not only did it actively destroy everything the fans loved about Moore's vision, but it even ruined the original Supreme too but trying him into a massively OOC racist idiot and completely missing the point of his KnightTemplar personality, as well as ignoring all the character development he went through by the end of the original run. The backlash was so bad that Larson had the entire creative team taken off the book (including himself) and replaced with a new team that [[{{Discontinuity}} discarded everything Larson did]] expect for the Supremacy being destroyed (as a plot point to explain why reality was so fractured, but also acknowledging that this was only one version of the Supremacy) and told a totally different story that didn't bother continuing on any of the plot arcs of Larson's run. It was so horribly disappointing [[HypeBacklash considering how excited fans were for it]] versus how much everyone ended up hating it.

** Tropers/{{DeMac}}: I never much liked the IDW ''Sonic'' comics, but what finally sealed it for me was issue #54. After dozens of issues of [[{{Wangst}} crying OCs]], unimpressive villains, and [[{{Jobber}} Shadow being a moron]], we finally get a menacing new villain in [[EvilCounterpart Surge]]. Sonic has sprained his ankle, and Surge is coming after him with the Dynamo Cage, which gives her a huge power boost. So what happens? [[AntiClimax Surge slips on some of Tails' discarded junk and gets a bucket slammed on her head]] like something out of ''Looney Tunes''. So now that Starline's dead and Surge is an embarrassing joke, the only halfway-menacing comic-original villain is ''Mimic'', who has no powers other than shapeshifting and owning a knife. How is this comic supposed to be interesting if none of the villains are even remotely a threat?

** Tropers/{{DeMac}}: I never much liked the IDW ''Sonic'' comics, but what finally sealed it for me was issue #54. After dozens of issues of [[Wangst crying OCs]], unimpressive villains, and [[Jobber Shadow being a moron]], we finally get a menacing new villain in [[EvilCounterpart Surge]]. Sonic has sprained his ankle, and Surge is coming after him with the Dynamo Cage, which gives her a huge power boost. So what happens? [[AntiClimax Surge slips on some of Tails' discarded junk and gets a bucket slammed on her head]] like something out of ''Looney Tunes''. So now that Starline's dead and Surge is an embarrassing joke, the only halfway-menacing comic-original villain is ''Mimic'', who has no powers other than shapeshifting and owning a knife. How is this comic supposed to be interesting if none of the villains are even remotely a threat?

* Tropers/SnailFish: I generally like ''WesternAnimation/InvaderZim'', but the first two issues soured my opinion on [[ComicBook/InvaderZim the comics]] and get worse the more I think about it. Basically Zim comes out of hiding after years, and Dib has gained weight and fused to his chair from the wait. After rigourously getting into shape, and then chasing Zim across space to stop his plans, it's revealed [[spoiler:Zim's real plan was to broadcast footage of Dib's gross workout montage to the universe, thoroughly humiliating him.]] Meaning this entire set-up was just to pile even more pain and humiliation on Dib. Seriously, what the hell? It just baffles me how people hyped this as a brilliant comeback, when it's really just "Lol, let's give [[YankTheDogsChain Dib a sliver of hope just to torment and mock him even more.]]"

* Tropers/BigJimbo: While I once adored ComicBook/MickeyMouse comics, I've lost interest because of the SadistShow humor often present in them. One of the aspects I dislike the most is Minnie being a {{Jerkass}} in some stories, and the worst offender is the one where Mickey wants to play chess, but gets constantly interrupted. Well, in one part of the comic, Mickey calls Minnie on the phone. Minnie just yells at him for calling her and insults him, just because [[MakesJustAsMuchSenseInContext Mickey had gone to a bear's cave and Minnie heard the bear growling and thought it was him]]. And when he attempts to explain himself, she doesn't believe him and shouts ''"FIND A BETTER EXCUSE NEXT TIME!"'' and hangs up on him, ending the conversation right then and there. Did Minnie really have to be so much of a {{Jerkass}}, let alone have her entire role in this particular story amount to that? To make matters worse, the story seems to imply that Minnie was right to cuss Mickey out like that. I've never looked at this part since I first read that story, and jokes like these are part of the reason I don't enjoy Disney comics as much as I did in my childhood.

** Tropers/MelancholyUtopia: I'm glad I'm not the only one who hates this abomination. When I was little, I always skipped this part in the book it featured in. It's beyond comprehension how everyone can shun somebody for making an honest mistake like that. The fact that it was his daydream says a lot about the poor duck's confidence, too. That aside, I find it unbelievable how everyone blames Donald for losing their bets on him. Whomever you bet on is not his fault and shouldn't be a scapegoat for you throwing your money carelessly away. Especially Scrooge, since he's, y'know, the richest guy in the world. And Donald gets zero sympathy from anyone, not even his nephews. It's so needlessly cruel to my favorite Disney character. I can't stress this enough.
** Tropers/BigJimbo: There have been many comics that left a bad taste in my mouth due to Donald's nephews being {{Jerkass}}es to him for minor reasons, and the comic where Donald dresses up as a knight for a fancy dress party shows what's easily the worst case of this. In the beginning when Donald reads the invitation, it encourages the receiver to be whatever they dream of being... which leads to Huey, Dewey and Louie joking that he dreams of being a retired idler. Keep in mind that Donald hasn't yet announced anything out of the ordinary like the desire to go as a knight, as well as the fact that despite his flaws, he still tries to take good care of them, and it makes his nephews look very unfair by insinuating he's too lazy. At least in my previous entry, they had a legit reason to react the way they did (even if it was overblown), but this is too far, even as a joke.

* Tropers/BigJimbo: I tend to dislike ComicBook/MickeyMouse comics when they make Minnie a {{Jerkass}}, specifically the one where Mickey wants to play chess, but gets constantly interrupted. Well, in one part of the comic, Mickey calls Minnie on the phone. Minnie just yells at him calling her and insults him. Yes, you heard me right. Sweet, innocent Minnie Mouse is yelling at him. And all that just because [[MakesJustAsMuchSenseInContext Mickey had gone to a bear's cave and Minnie thought the bear's growls were his]]. And obviously, she doesn't believe him and shouts ''"FIND A BETTER EXCUSE NEXT TIME!"'' [[NoIndoorVoice at the top of her lungs]] and hangs up on him, ending the conversation right then and there. Did Minnie really have to be so much of a {{Jerkass}}? To make matters worse, the story seems to imply that Minnie was right to cuss Mickey out like that. I've never looked at this part since I first read that story, and it's one of the reasons I find it hard to enjoy Disney comics.

** Tropers/{{BlurryDawgo}}: So, I'd like to make it clear first and foremost that I strongly dislike how Sonic himself is portrayed in the IDW comics. Rather than being the laid-back NiceGuy with a simple philosophy of just doing what he feels is right in the heat of the moment, he's a judgmental {{hypocrite}} who tries to push his ideas of morality onto other people, while still insisting that he's freedom-loving and compassionate (I doubt most people who truly are those things would even feel a need to describe themselves that way). His response to Shadow's concerns about Eggman's amnesiac state is to smugly threaten to "take [him] out with Eggman" rather than appeal to Shadow's humanity or "heart" like he did in ''VideoGame/SonicBattle'', he coldly accuses a visibly traumatized Espio of wanting to "assume the worst about everyone" even though the concern about Eggman regaining his memories and ruining their lives already came true, and he lets Metal Sonic go scot-free despite Tails' concerns and the robot's prior claim to "sift through the world's ashes" to find Eggman, and later chastises Metal for going back to serving Eggman despite his apparent intent to "honor his decision" earlier. It all culminates in his interactions with Surge in issue #50: despite his supposed "compassion" and the fact that [[VideoGame/SonicRush his first fight with Blaze still had him try to get through to her]], he brushes aside and never tries to clear up Surge's claims that his actions led to her suffering, reduces her explicitly trauma-induced desire to lash out at the world to a "schtick", and arrogantly rubs in to her that he's exulting in how "fun" their battle is. He even proceeds to give a patronizing CharacterFilibuster to Surge (underneath a light shining from above, no less) on how his principles of mercy come from a desire for everyone to experience freedom [[DisobeyThisMessage in the same way that he does]], and when Surge expresses legitimate reasons as to why she wouldn't want his specific brand of freedom, he still continues to brush her aside, showing that he doesn't really care about her, again, despite his alleged "compassion" to everyone. After Surge seemingly falls to her death, Sonic-- who, remember, is a freedom-loving hero with a theme song that highlights [[{{Ubermensch}} how he doesn't give much thought to the idea of morality as an objective concept]]-- comments that the "real problem with giving people a choice" is that "you can't stop them from making the wrong ones", a line so antithetical to his core character that I swear it would better fit [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill Eggman's thought process]]. Rather than reaffirming Sonic's moral principles as just, all the comic does is portray him as [[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic a self-conceited jerk who refuses to listen to others or take any responsibility for his decisions]], with Surge's antagonist role being used to make her a [[TheWarOnStraw strawman]] to make Sonic look better. It was this moment that killed any remaining hope I had of the problems with this Sonic being properly addressed (outside of glorified LampshadeHanging, which doesn't count), and given that I'm not the only one who's had these issues with his portrayal (or to a lesser extent, concerns about younger readers possibly emulating the wrong lessons about personal responsibility or respect from it), Sonic's line about people making the "wrong" choices even comes off to me as [[TakeThatCritics the staff behind the comic lamenting that there are people allowed to criticize it]], which I find especially insecure and disdainful.

** Tropers/{{BlurryDawgo}}: So, I'd like to make it clear first and foremost that I strongly dislike how Sonic himself is portrayed in the IDW comics. Rather than being the laid-back NiceGuy with a simple philosophy of just doing what he feels is right in the heat of the moment, he's a judgmental {{hypocrite}} who tries to push his ideas of morality onto other people, while still insisting that he's freedom-loving and compassionate (I doubt most people who truly are those things would even feel a need to describe themselves that way). His response to Shadow's concerns about Eggman's amnesiac state is to smugly threaten to "take [him] out with Eggman" rather than appeal to Shadow's humanity or "heart" like he did in ''VideoGame/SonicBattle'', he coldly accuses a visibly traumatized Espio of wanting to "assume the worst about everyone" even though the concern about Eggman regaining his memories and ruining their lives already came true, and he lets Metal Sonic go scot-free despite Tails' concerns and the robot's prior claim to "sift through the world's ashes" to find Eggman, and later chastises Metal for going back to serving Eggman despite his apparent intent to "honor his decision" earlier. It all culminates in his interactions with Surge in issue #50: despite his supposed "compassion" and the fact that [[VideoGame/SonicRush his first fight with Blaze still had him try to get through to her]], he brushes aside and never tries to clear up Surge's claims that his actions led to her suffering, reduces her explicitly trauma-induced desire to lash out at the world to a "schtick", and arrogantly rubs in to her that he's exulting in how "fun" their battle is. He even proceeds to give a patronizing CharacterFilibuster to Surge (underneath a light shining from above, no less) on how his principles of mercy come from a desire for everyone to experience freedom [[DisobeyThisMessage in the same way that he does]], and when Surge expresses legitimate reasons as to why she wouldn't want his specific brand of freedom, he still continues to brush her aside, showing that he doesn't really care about her, again, despite his alleged "compassion" to everyone. After Surge seemingly falls to her death, Sonic-- who, remember, is a freedom-loving hero with a theme song that highlights [[{{Ubermensch}} how he doesn't give much thought to the idea of morality as an objective concept]]-- comments that the "real problem with giving people a choice" is that "you can't stop them from making the wrong ones", a line so antithetical to his core character that I swear it would better fit [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill Eggman's thought process]]. Rather than reaffirming Sonic's moral principles as just, all the comic does is make him out to be [[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic a self-conceited jerk who refuses to listen to others or take any responsibility for his decisions]], with Surge's antagonist role being used to make her a [[TheWarOnStraw strawman]] to make Sonic look better. It was this moment that killed any remaining hope I had of the problems with this Sonic being properly addressed (outside of glorified LampshadeHanging, which doesn't count), and given that I'm not the only one who's had issues with this, Sonic's line about people making the "wrong" choices even comes off to me as [[TakeThatCritics the staff behind the comic lamenting that there are people allowed to criticize it]], which I find especially insecure and disdainful.

* Tropers/{{Mockery}}: Oh, Jack of Fables. I can't say I ever loved you. Your title character danced back and forth across the EightDeadlyWords, but I lament that your [=DMoS=] happened on the last pages of your series. [[spoiler: In the midst of a KillEmAll finale, even Jack dies. Then the devil comes to claim his soul. As does another, and another, and another. And while they argue, Jack's soul slips away unnoticed.]] This might be an ending befitting a LovableRogue, but given that by this point Jack had [[spoiler: become a dragon because of his overwhelming greed]], among dozens of other acts of sheer dickishness I think that it would be laughable to call him anything resembling a good person. One might even be inclined to give this a pass owing to its ContinuityNod status. I, for one, condemn it for ignoring that [[spoiler: each devil figure had bought out Jack's previous contract. Each one--except the last--had had its share of Jack's soul paid for, and thus had no ground to stand on. Only one had a legal claim to him.]] But this is never brought up at all. Most infuriating of all is the author's willingness to pat himself on the back and consider it clever.