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Per TRS thread, removal of What An Idiot potholes/misuse


** Tropers/Kirby0189: The "kill all the Japanese" thing pissed me off to no end, even with a lot of the questionable writing decisions in [[SeasonalRot R2]]. I get [[RhetoricalRequestBlunder what they were going for]] and I don't mind the plotpoint, but the way the trigger for the events played out made Lelouch look like a giant idiot. Really, Lelouch? Kill all the Japanese? [[WhatAnIdiot That's what you went for?]] Here's the simple solution: Have Lelouch say "I could tell you to do the one thing you would never want to do" and his Geass goes off. There, same plot can play out without making Lelouch grab the IdiotBall, and it could have created some extra tension as Lelouch tries to figure out what [[spoiler:Euphemia]] is going to do before the genocide starts and he realizes "oh crap, she's going to kill all of the Japanese''.

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** Tropers/Kirby0189: The "kill all the Japanese" thing pissed me off to no end, even with a lot of the questionable writing decisions in [[SeasonalRot R2]]. I get [[RhetoricalRequestBlunder what they were going for]] and I don't mind the plotpoint, but the way the trigger for the events played out made Lelouch look like a giant idiot. Really, Lelouch? Kill all the Japanese? [[WhatAnIdiot That's what you went for?]] for? Here's the simple solution: Have Lelouch say "I could tell you to do the one thing you would never want to do" and his Geass goes off. There, same plot can play out without making Lelouch grab the IdiotBall, and it could have created some extra tension as Lelouch tries to figure out what [[spoiler:Euphemia]] is going to do before the genocide starts and he realizes "oh crap, she's going to kill all of the Japanese''.
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* AgentSkyblueM7: For me, the biggest dethroning moment out of everything else ([[UpToEleven including the more well-known ones above]]) would have to be at the very end where [[spoiler: after Lelouch's death, Nunnally is left crying and screaming for him, [[AndThereWasMuchRejoicing while the entire crowd, despite understandably cheering for Suzaku as Zero,]] [[NoSympathy still completely ignore her and the agony she's going through right now]]]]. Even [[spoiler: [[SmartBall the Black Knights and the other prisoners might have noticed]]]] if [[spoiler: the shots of Kallen and Kaguya (along with [[ThrowTheDogABone Ohgi giving her a warm welcome in the epilogue]])]] [[FridgeBrilliance are any indication]]. While the ending can be interpreted as [[spoiler: Lelouch dying happy knowing that he actually won and the world will be a better place]], it still just doesn't seem fair for [[spoiler: his dear sister, the person he was originally trying to do it all for (before switching to everyone)]], to end up having something as mean-spirited as [[spoiler: [[BreakTheCutie letting out all her utter sadness and anguish]] [[SurroundedByIdiots without anyone in the rally of idiots noticing her just a little below Zero]]]]. While [[spoiler: [[ThePollyanna this is still Nunnally we're talking about here]], [[AllsWellThatEndsWell recovering from such a traumatic event]]]] still seems to have been a bit too easy with the way it was shown, [[spoiler: even for her]]. Seeing [[spoiler: nobody else caring for her well-being at an inappropriate time (more or less)]] can really be infuriating, ...[[TearJerker and it just makes the whole situation all the more heartbreaking]]. It also seems to imply that [[spoiler: people like the Black Knights were never the only idiots in the show]], [[FridgeBrilliance which would actually make more sense]]. Also, [[spoiler: [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking she's somehow surprisingly absent from the wedding photo]] ([[IncurableCoughOfDeath Though it's more understandable why neither is Xingke]])]]. Again, [[spoiler: [[AndThatsTerrible you'd think this innocent young girl who's now the newly crowned 100th Empress would deserve better]]]].

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* AgentSkyblueM7: For me, the biggest dethroning moment out of everything else ([[UpToEleven including (including the more well-known ones above]]) above) would have to be at the very end where [[spoiler: after Lelouch's death, Nunnally is left crying and screaming for him, [[AndThereWasMuchRejoicing while the entire crowd, despite understandably cheering for Suzaku as Zero,]] [[NoSympathy still completely ignore her and the agony she's going through right now]]]]. Even [[spoiler: [[SmartBall the Black Knights and the other prisoners might have noticed]]]] if [[spoiler: the shots of Kallen and Kaguya (along with [[ThrowTheDogABone Ohgi giving her a warm welcome in the epilogue]])]] [[FridgeBrilliance are any indication]]. While the ending can be interpreted as [[spoiler: Lelouch dying happy knowing that he actually won and the world will be a better place]], it still just doesn't seem fair for [[spoiler: his dear sister, the person he was originally trying to do it all for (before switching to everyone)]], to end up having something as mean-spirited as [[spoiler: [[BreakTheCutie letting out all her utter sadness and anguish]] [[SurroundedByIdiots without anyone in the rally of idiots noticing her just a little below Zero]]]]. While [[spoiler: [[ThePollyanna this is still Nunnally we're talking about here]], [[AllsWellThatEndsWell recovering from such a traumatic event]]]] still seems to have been a bit too easy with the way it was shown, [[spoiler: even for her]]. Seeing [[spoiler: nobody else caring for her well-being at an inappropriate time (more or less)]] can really be infuriating, ...[[TearJerker and it just makes the whole situation all the more heartbreaking]]. It also seems to imply that [[spoiler: people like the Black Knights were never the only idiots in the show]], [[FridgeBrilliance which would actually make more sense]]. Also, [[spoiler: [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking she's somehow surprisingly absent from the wedding photo]] ([[IncurableCoughOfDeath Though it's more understandable why neither is Xingke]])]]. Again, [[spoiler: [[AndThatsTerrible you'd think this innocent young girl who's now the newly crowned 100th Empress would deserve better]]]].
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** Tropers/Kirby0189: The "kill all the Japanese" thing pissed me off to no end, even with a lot of the questionable writing decisions in [[SeasonalRot R2]]. I get [[RhetoricalRequestBlunder what they were going for]] and I don't mind the plotpoint, but the way the trigger for the events played out made Lelouch look like a giant idiot. Really, Lelouch? Kill all the Japanese? [[WhatAnIdiot That's what you went for?]] Here's the simple solution: Have Lelouch say "I could tell you to do the one thing you would never want to do" and his Geass goes off. There, same plot can play out without making Lelouch grab the IdiotBall, and it could have created some extra tension as Lelouch tries to figure out what [[spoiler:Euphemia]] is going to do before the genocide starts and he realizes "oh crap, she's going to kill all of the Japanese''.
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** As for why? Simple. Her death was undeserved and she was killed for a [[EvilIsPetty petty]] reason, simply for [[DisproportionateRetribution mentioning Nunnally in front of Rolo]]. I [[BerserkButton really despise]] the deaths of young beautiful girls, sure, she was [[The Scrappy]] at the time, but still. I still [[TearJerker/CodeGeass cried during her death scene]], though. Thankfully, the compilation film retconned it, still i only seen the original anime, that's why it's here.

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** As for why? Simple. Her death was undeserved and she was killed for a [[EvilIsPetty petty]] reason, simply for [[DisproportionateRetribution mentioning Nunnally in front of Rolo]]. I [[BerserkButton really despise]] the deaths of young beautiful girls, girls and sure, she was [[The Scrappy]] [[TheScrappy hated at the time, time]], but still. I still [[TearJerker/CodeGeass cried during her death scene]], though. Thankfully, the compilation film retconned it, still i only seen the original anime, that's why it's here.
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** As for why? Simple. Her death was undeserved and she was killed for a [[EvilIsPetty petty]] reason, simply for {{Yandere|mentioning Nunnally in front of Rolo}}. I [[BerserkButton really despise]] the deaths of young beautiful girls, sure, she was [[TheScrappy]] at the time, but still. I still [[TearJerker/CodeGeass cried during her death scene]], though. Thankfully, the compilation film retconned it, still i only seen the original anime, that's why it's here.

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** As for why? Simple. Her death was undeserved and she was killed for a [[EvilIsPetty petty]] reason, simply for {{Yandere|mentioning [[DisproportionateRetribution mentioning Nunnally in front of Rolo}}. Rolo]]. I [[BerserkButton really despise]] the deaths of young beautiful girls, sure, she was [[TheScrappy]] [[The Scrappy]] at the time, but still. I still [[TearJerker/CodeGeass cried during her death scene]], though. Thankfully, the compilation film retconned it, still i only seen the original anime, that's why it's here.
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** As for why? Simple. Her death was undeserved and she was killed for a [[EvilIsPetty petty]] reason, simply for [[Yandere mentioning Nunnally in front of Rolo]]. I [[BerserkButton really despise]] the deaths of young beautiful girls, sure, she was [[TheScrappy]] at the time, but still. I still [[TearJerker/CodeGeass cried during her death scene]], though. Thankfully, the compilation film retconned it, still i only seen the original anime, that's why it's here.

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** As for why? Simple. Her death was undeserved and she was killed for a [[EvilIsPetty petty]] reason, simply for [[Yandere mentioning {{Yandere|mentioning Nunnally in front of Rolo]].Rolo}}. I [[BerserkButton really despise]] the deaths of young beautiful girls, sure, she was [[TheScrappy]] at the time, but still. I still [[TearJerker/CodeGeass cried during her death scene]], though. Thankfully, the compilation film retconned it, still i only seen the original anime, that's why it's here.
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** As for why? Simple. Her death was undeserved and she was killed for a [[EvilIsPetty petty]] reason, simply for [[Main/Yandere mentioning Nunnally in front of Rolo]]. I [[BerserkButton really despise]] the deaths of young beautiful girls, sure, she was {{TheScrappy The Scrappy]] at the time, but still. I still [[TearJerker/CodeGeass cried during her death scene]], though. Thankfully, the compilation film retconned it, still i only seen the original anime, that's why it's here.

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** As for why? Simple. Her death was undeserved and she was killed for a [[EvilIsPetty petty]] reason, simply for [[Main/Yandere [[Yandere mentioning Nunnally in front of Rolo]]. I [[BerserkButton really despise]] the deaths of young beautiful girls, sure, she was {{TheScrappy The Scrappy]] [[TheScrappy]] at the time, but still. I still [[TearJerker/CodeGeass cried during her death scene]], though. Thankfully, the compilation film retconned it, still i only seen the original anime, that's why it's here.
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* Tropers/XenithXenaku: For me, Episode 13 of R2, full stop (for the last half anyway). While the first half is good, the ending is what killed it for me. Yes, i'm talking about Shirley Fanette's death, [[WhatCouldHaveBeen it ruined a happy ending for both her and Lelouch]] and it made me hate Rolo with a burning passion. Sorry, for me Episode 13 of R2 for me is my Dethroning Moment for that reason. The rest is good.

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* Tropers/XenithXenaku: For me, Episode 13 of R2, full stop (for the last half anyway). While the first half is good, the ending is what killed it for me. Yes, i'm talking about Shirley Fanette's death, [[WhatCouldHaveBeen it ruined a happy ending for both her and Lelouch]] and it made me hate Rolo with a burning passion. Sorry, for me Episode 13 of R2 for me is my Dethroning Moment for that reason. The rest is good.good.
** As for why? Simple. Her death was undeserved and she was killed for a [[EvilIsPetty petty]] reason, simply for [[Main/Yandere mentioning Nunnally in front of Rolo]]. I [[BerserkButton really despise]] the deaths of young beautiful girls, sure, she was {{TheScrappy The Scrappy]] at the time, but still. I still [[TearJerker/CodeGeass cried during her death scene]], though. Thankfully, the compilation film retconned it, still i only seen the original anime, that's why it's here.
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* Tropers/XenithXenaku: For me, Episode 13, full stop (for the last half anyway). While the first half is good, the ending is what killed it for me. Yes, i'm talking about Shirley Fanette's death, [[WhatCouldHaveBeen it ruined a happy ending for both her and Lelouch]] and it made me hate Rolo with a burning passion. Sorry, for me Episode 13 of R2 for me is my Dethroning Moment for that reason. The rest is good.

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* Tropers/XenithXenaku: For me, Episode 13, 13 of R2, full stop (for the last half anyway). While the first half is good, the ending is what killed it for me. Yes, i'm talking about Shirley Fanette's death, [[WhatCouldHaveBeen it ruined a happy ending for both her and Lelouch]] and it made me hate Rolo with a burning passion. Sorry, for me Episode 13 of R2 for me is my Dethroning Moment for that reason. The rest is good.
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* Tropers/XenithXenaku: For me, Episode 13, full stop (for the last half anyway). While the first half is good, the ending is what killed it for me. Yes, i'm talking about Shirley Fanette's death, [[WhatCouldHaveBeen it ruined a happy ending for both her and Lelouch]] and made me hate Rolo with a burning passion. Sorry, for me Episode 13 of R2 for me is my Dethroning Moment for that reason.

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* Tropers/XenithXenaku: For me, Episode 13, full stop (for the last half anyway). While the first half is good, the ending is what killed it for me. Yes, i'm talking about Shirley Fanette's death, [[WhatCouldHaveBeen it ruined a happy ending for both her and Lelouch]] and it made me hate Rolo with a burning passion. Sorry, for me Episode 13 of R2 for me is my Dethroning Moment for that reason. The rest is good.
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* XenithXenaku: For me, Episode 13, full stop (for the last half anyway). While the first half is good, the ending is what killed it for me. Yes, i'm talking about Shirley Fanette's death, [[WhatCoundHaveBeen it ruined a happy ending for both her and Lelouch]] and made me hate Rolo with a burning passion. Sorry, for me Episode 13 of R2 for me is my Dethroning Moment for that reason.

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* XenithXenaku: Tropers/XenithXenaku: For me, Episode 13, full stop (for the last half anyway). While the first half is good, the ending is what killed it for me. Yes, i'm talking about Shirley Fanette's death, [[WhatCoundHaveBeen [[WhatCouldHaveBeen it ruined a happy ending for both her and Lelouch]] and made me hate Rolo with a burning passion. Sorry, for me Episode 13 of R2 for me is my Dethroning Moment for that reason.

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