History DethroningMoment / AnimatedFilms

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* Loekman3: The treatment of Shen and Kai is treated in ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda4'' is one of the most disrespectful moments that I've ever seen, almost as if the creators of the movie personally decided shaft them in favor of their new OC villain (and a really bad one at that). For context, the ArcVillain of the movie, The Chameleon has summoned Kung Fu masters from the Spirit Realm in order to steal their techniques which also includes the {{BigBad}}s of the previous movies. Now Tai Lung at least was treated with respect but no such thing happens to the other two, not only do they not speak at all here but Po barely acknowledges them. And at the the end they both decided to bow to Po in respect without telling as to why did they reform. Kai especially has it bad as not only there isn't any explanation as to how he came back after we saw him getting blown up onscreen in the previous movie but there is absolutely no sign of him even reforming (wheareas you could maybe make the assumption that Shen finds inner peace given that we saw him closing his eyes just before his death). If this is the best they can do, then they're simply better off not bothering to feature them at all.

* Tropers/MathsAngelicVersion: I had very little sympathy for King Triton in the original ''WesternAnimation/TheLittleMermaid1989''. He started off as an intolerant jerk, and while he did have some CharacterDevelopment later, it wasn't enough to redeem him in my eyes. Then comes ''WesternAnimation/TheLittleMermaidIIIArielsBeginning'', which shows how he became bigoted against humans. That'd make him a tragic character whom I'd finally understand and respect, right? Well, as you've probably guessed, because this is on a [=DMoS=] page, nope. It turns out that this is the "explanation": He once gave his wife, Athena, a music box. Then a pirate ship appeared, and everyone escaped while the pirates presumably tried to steal their stuff. That is, everyone but Athena. She threw herself in front of the ship to try to save the music box, which unsurprisingly got her crushed to death instead. This apparently made Triton hate humans. There are two big problems with this: The first is that Triton is too quick to generalise humans as bad, and [[AmbiguouslyEvil it's not even clear how bad these humans were]] (maybe Athena basically popped up out of nowhere from their point of view, so they couldn't have avoided her). The second is Athena was TooDumbToLive, or at least had a bad case of SkewedPriorities. It was just a music box. Triton could get her another one. She had absolutely no reason to risk her life for it. Her death was at least partly her own fault (the human equivalent would be her running into traffic and being hit -- even if the driver who hit her made no attempt to stop, she'd still be an idiot for running into traffic in the first place), and yet Triton puts all the blame on the humans. All in all, this attempt at making Triton a TragicBigot only made him even more unlikable to me. I realize that his bigotry isn't supposed to be justified, but it should at least be understandable. Otherwise, he just ends up looking like a villain. Him having some resentment toward humans would be okay, but this is just stupid. \\

* Alan Palgut: I enjoy ''WesternAnimation/AliceInWonderland1951'', but it's far from the perfect version thanks to the Doorknob – the film's only real CanonForeigner – whose presence I find completely pointless to the plot, mainly because he (it?) annoys Alice at the beginning and merely shows her as having "escaped" at the end, and if Joseph Kearns is pulling off a FakeBrit, [[OohMeAccentsSlipping he sucks at it]] while many of the other characters in the film are voiced by natural British people (e.g. Alice herself by Kathryn Beaumont, the Caterpillar by Richard Haydn) or by [[NotEvenBotheringWithTheAccent Americans who could have cared no less]] (e.g. the Mad Hatter by Ed Wynn, the Cheshire-Cat by Sterling Holloway). I would have said the same thing about the Tulgey Wood (despite being a canonical place in the poem "Jabberwocky") were it not an example of WhatCouldHaveBeen and had it not contained "Very Good Advice," the film's biggest TearJerker.

** [=BossKey=]: This, so very much. So you’re telling me the ending to a series based around Vikings and dragons enriching each other’s lives through coexistence… ends with them severing ties forever. Doesn’t that make the whole series entirely pointless? ''WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragonHomecoming'' doubles down on how bad of an ending it was, since the plot of that is based entirely around Hiccup’s decision causing the Berkians to become fearful and superstitious of dragons again, completely undoing years of cultural advancement and setting the Hooligan Tribe back to where they were before the first movie, and the situation is resolved by, surprise surprise, dragons coming back. [[DidntThinkThisThrough Releasing those dragons seems like a really stupid idea in hindsight, doesn’t it?]] (Addendum: [[Literature/HowToTrainYourDragon the books]] did this much better, with the setting generally being more grim than the LighterAndSofter movie adaptations and the split being more justified [[spoiler:due to Hiccup being their main peacekeeper and the split happening in his twilight years rather than in his prime]].

** [=BossKey=]: This, so very much. So you’re telling me the ending to a series based around Vikings and dragons enriching each other’s lives through coexistence… ends with them severing ties forever. Doesn’t that make the whole series entirely pointless? ''WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragonHomecoming'' doubles down on how bad of an ending it was, since the plot of that is based entirely around Hiccup’s decision causing the Berkians to become fearful and superstitious of dragons again, completely undoing years of cultural advancement and setting the Hooligan Tribe back to where they were before the first movie, and the situation is resolved by, surprise surprise, dragons coming back. [[DidntThinkThisThrough Releasing those dragons seems like a really stupid idea in hindsight, doesn’t it?]]

* Tropers/{{Retloclive}}: ''WesternAnimation/{{Trolls}}'' turned out to an okay film for something that looked like it was aimed at five year olds. However, one moment that's hard to overlook was Poppy just letting all the Troll refugees into Branch's bunker, which they go about eating everything in sight. Basically wrecking everything that Branch had prepared for years to keep himself safe from the Bergen. It's no different than a bunch of people eating all their limited food to the point of possibly starving only to then decide to go after and steal the food of the one person that actually rationed their share of the food, and leaving them with nothing like everyone else. Overall, it's such a horrible thing to do on Poppy's part, and no one calls her out on it.

[[folder:Other Films]]

* Tropers/{{Clown-Face}}: ''WesternAnimation/TheEmojiMovie'' is an awful movie, and there is no shortage of moments that could qualify as its [=DMoS=], but for me, it's when Gene screws up and wrecks the text center early on. After spending the previous scene pleading to his parents to let him work on the phone for the first time so he can finally fit in, what does Gene do? He immediately, and with no provocation, freaks out and proceeds to make a mess of the text center, endangering everyone else there in the process. His actions go beyond that of a newbie making a mistake, making him look like an incompetent dumbass. What makes this such an EpicFail on the movie's part is that they try to make Gene out as a sympathetic {{woobie}} being treated unfairly for being "different" and paints his father Mel in the wrong for not believing in him, but all Gene does is prove their viewpoint correct. And what adds to this is that in the climax, Mel tells Gene that he was wrong for not believing in him, and what's meant to be a heartwarming moment is again ruined because, at this point, Gene has done nothing but continue to make matters even worse, as his actions have inadvertently caused Alex to try to delete the phone, and Gene has thus far done nothing to rectify this. So Mel's change of heart makes no sense because Gene has done nothing to show that Mel was wrong for not trusting him; if anything, he's just shown that Mel's earlier opinion of him was warranted.
** Tropers/{{Midna}}: ''WesternAnimation/TheEmojiMovie'' is a failure of a picture on almost every level, but one moment that particularly stands out to me as horrible is when Gene and his friends finally make it to the Cloud, and Gene becomes a "meh" like he always wanted, not because Jailbreak reprograms him... but because she friendzones him. Forget the fact that it's an incredibly cheap attempt to force some end-of-second-act drama—did the writers seriously not notice what an awful, self-centered prick it makes Gene look like?
* Tropers/KenyaStarflight: ''WesternAnimation/HotelTransylvania'' is a pretty good movie overall, but it hits a sour note for me with talk about a "zing" -- essentially the concept of LoveAtFirstSight -- and it's emphasized that you only get one "zing" in your life. A romantic enough notion, perhaps, but did the filmmakers think to consider how kids who come from divorced families might feel about this? Or really, has anyone who's had a relationship end, either by death, divorce, or breaking up? The movie doesn't even justify it by saying that "zing" only applies to monsters (granted, they do mention this [[WesternAnimation/HotelTransylvania3SummerVacation in the third movie]], but not everyone watches sequels), which might have made it a bit more tolerable -- basically the characters state you only get a single true love and that if you let them go, that's it. A cringe-worthy AccidentalAesop in an otherwise decent movie.

* Tropers/{{Retloclive}}: ''WesternAnimation/{{Trolls}}'' turned out to an okay film for something that looked like it was aimed at five year olds. However, one moment that's hard to overlook was Poppy just letting all the Troll refugees into Branch's bunker, which they go about eating everything in sight. Basically wrecking everything that Branch had prepared for years to keep himself safe from the Bergen. It's no different than a bunch of people eating all their limited food to the point of possibly starving only to then decide to go after and steal the food of the one person that actually rationed their share of the food, and leaving them with nothing like everyone else. Overall, it's such a horrible thing to do on Poppy's part, and no one calls her out on it.

* Tropers/{{Flowerfun}}: While I did enjoy ''WesternAnimation/RubyGillmanTeenageKraken'', there's one part of the movie that after thinking about it rubs me the wrong way, that being Chelsie being a [[spoiler: TwistVillain and her not being Nerissa's daughter but being Nerissa herself.]] Not only does the twist [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot waste what could have been an interesting conflict with her and Ruby trying to build peace between the two races]] and an [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter interesting character]], but it also ends up validating Gramama's FantasticRacism that all mermaids are evil, unintentionally sending a pro-racism message. There's also the EsotericHappyEnding where, although the villain has been defeated, the conflict between the mermaids and krakens goes completely unresolved.

** [=BossKey=]: This, so very much. So you’re telling me the ending to a series based around Vikings and dragons enriching each other’s lives through coexistence… ends with them severing ties forever. Doesn’t that make the whole series entirely pointless? ''WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragonHomecoming'' doubles rown on how bad of an ending it was, since the plot of that is based entirely around Hiccup’s decision causing the Berkians to become fearful and superstitious of dragons again, completely undoing years of cultural advancement and setting the Hooligan Tribe back to where they were before the first movie, and the situation is resolved by, surprise surprise, dragons coming back. [[DidntThinkThisThrough Releasing those dragons seems like a really stupid idea in hindsight, doesn’t it?]]

* Tropers/{{InsertCleverNameHere}}: Netflix's ''Marmaduke'' is so bad, you'd think picking a {{DMoS}} would be hard, but no. The entire "Marmaduke eats so much that ends up he shitting in a trophy" scene. Aside from being unfunny ToiletHumor, the scene uncomfortably feels like a writer's barely disguised fetish: Marmaduke gets a BalloonBelly (inflation), and he poops so much that it forms a massive cloud of gas (scat & farting). The whole thing was just so disgusting and drawn-out; I don't see how it was supposed to be funny.

* Tropers/{{Flowerfun}}: While I did enjoy ''WesternAnimation/RubyGillmanTeenageKraken'', there's one part of the movie that after thinking about it rubs me the wrong way, that being Chelsie being a TwistVillain and her not being Nerissa's daughter but being Nerissa herself. Not only does the twist [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot waste what could have been an interesting conflict with her and Ruby trying to build peace between the two races]] and an [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter interesting character]], but it also ends up validating Gramama's FantasticRacism that all mermaids are evil, unintentionally sending a pro-racism message. There's also the EsotericHappyEnding where, although the villain has been defeated, the conflict between the mermaids and krakens goes completely unresolved.

* Tropers/{{Flowerfun}}: While I did enjoy ''WesternAnimation/RubyGillmanTeenageKraken'', there's one part of the movie that after thinking about it rubs me the wrong way, that being Chelsie being a TwistVillain and her not being Nerissa's daughter but being Nerissa herself. Not only does the twist [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot waste what could have been an interesting conflict with her and Ruby trying to build peace between the two races]] and an [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter interesting character]], but it also ends up validating Gramama's FantasticRacism that all mermaids are evil, unintentionally sending a pro-racism message. There's also the EsotericHappyEnding where, although the villain has been defeated,the conflict between the mermaids and krakens goes completely unresolved.

* Tropers/{{Flowerfun}}: While I did enjoy ''WesternAnimation/RubyGillmanTeenageKraken'', there's one part of the movie that after thinking about it rubs me the wrong way, that being Chelsie being a TwistVillain and her not being Nerissa's daughter but being Nerissa herself. Not only does the twist [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot waste what could have been an interesting conflict with her and Ruby trying to build peace between the two races]] and an [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter interesting character]], but it also ends up validating Gramama's FantasticRacism that all Mermaids are evil, unintentionally sending a pro-racism message. There's also the EsotericHappyEnding where, although the villain has been defeated,the conflict between the Mermaids and Krakens goes completely unresolved.

* Alan Palgut: I enjoy the 1951 version of ''Alice in Wonderland'', but it's far from the perfect version thanks to the Doorknob – the film's only real CanonForeigner – whose pesence at the beginning and end I find completely pointless to the plot, and if Joseph Kearns is pulling off a FakeBrit, [[OohMeAccentsSlipping he sucks at it]] while many of the other characters in the film are voiced by natural British people (e.g. Alice herself by Kathryn Beaumont, the Caterpillar by Richard Haydn) or by [[NotEvenBotheringWithTheAccent Americans who could have cared no less]] (e.g. the Mad Hatter by Ed Wynn, the Cheshire-Cat by Sterling Holloway). I would have said the same thing about the Tulgey Wood (despite being a canonical place in the poem "Jabberwocky") were it not an example of WhatCouldHaveBeen and had it not contained "Very Good Advice," the film's biggest TearJerker.

* Alan Palgut: I enjoy the 1951 version of ''Alice in Wonderland'', but it's far from the perfect version thanks to the Doorknob – the film's only real CanonForeigner – who I find completely pointless to the plot, and if Joseph Kearns is pulling off a FakeBrit, [[OohMeAccentsSlipping he sucks at it]] while many of the other characters in are voiced by natural British people (e.g. Alice herself by Kathryn Beaumont, the Caterpillar by Richard Haydn) or by [[NotEvenBotheringWithTheAccent Americans who could have cared no less]] (e.g. the Mad Hatter by Ed Wynn, the Cheshire-Cat by Sterling Holloway). I would have said the same thing about the Tulgey Wood (despite being a canonical place in the poem "Jabberwocky") were it not an example of WhatCouldHaveBeen and had it not contained "Very Good Advice," the film's biggest TearJerker.

* Tropers/{{KoopaKid17}}: The very beginning of ''WesternAnimation/{{Lightyear}}'', where I'm expected to believe that a movie I'm just being introduced to is responsible for Andy wanting a Buzz Lightyear for his birthday. [[BluntNo No]]. Everybody saw first-hand exactly why anyone, even Sid of all people, would want a Buzz Lightyear in the first ''Toy Story''. This cool toy glows in the dark, has light-activated lasers, his helmet and wings retract, etc. This movie does no such thing, instead relying on a few lines of text to try to convince its audience how Andy got won over. If this truly was the movie that Andy saw, it's more likely that he'd have fallen asleep in the theater because of how boring it was. Come on, Pixar. You're better than committing one of the biggest violations of ShowDontTell in cinematic history.

* Tropers/{{KoopaKid17}}: The very beginning of ''WesternAnimation/{{Lightyear}}'', where I'm expected to believe that a movie I'm just being introduced to is responsible for Andy wanting a Buzz Lightyear for his birthday. [[BluntNo No]]. Everybody saw first-hand exactly why anyone, even Sid of all people, would want a Buzz Lightyear in the first ''Toy Story''. This cool toy glows in the dark, has light-activated lasers, his helmet and wings retract, etc. This movie does no such thing, instead relying on a few lines of text to try to convince its audience how Andy got won over. If this truly was the movie that Andy saw, it's more likely that he'd have fallen asleep in the theater because of how boring it was. Come on, Pixar. You're better than committing one of the biggest violations of ShowDontTell in cinematic history.