Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 1,6 (click to see context) from:
* ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' is this trope to ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}} Fantasy'' (which itself was already DarkerAndEdgier by tabletop game standards), though not by the margins of some other works on this page, as the source material was [[UnbuiltTrope already parodying "Darker and Edgier" works by playing this trope to the extreme]]. Needless to say, it served as the TropeCodifier.
** The tagline - "In the grim, dark future of the 41st millennium, there is only war" - led to the {{meme}} of "[[http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Grimdark grimdark]]", the extreme edge of Darker And Edgier where everything is so bleak and nasty [[{{Narm}} it tips over into being ridiculous]] (although that [[NarmCharm can still be highly entertaining]] -- if [[SoBadItsGood not in the way it was intended]] -- or even ''[[NarmCharm awesome]]''). Alternatively, it means embracing the BlackComedy potential of the relentlessly hopeless nature of such an absurdly bleak setting, as exemplified by ''TabletopGame/{{Paranoia}}''.- Thanks to MemeticMutation the term escaped and has largely morphed into DarkerAndEdgier played ''totally straight'' in common usage, meaning many people do not consider the setting grimdark despite naming the term.
** The novels of ''Warhammer 40000'' often play around with this trope. Notably our favorite HERO OF THE IMPERIUM, Literature/CiaphasCain's novels are significantly LighterAndSofter than the rest of the universe.
** The 3rd edition of ''Warhammer 40000'' is often seen by fans as being this trope to the editions that came before it, as it abandoned a lot of the game's lightheartedness and pushed the [[CrapsackWorld Crapsack Galaxy]] aspect UpToEleven. In addition, the gothic aspects that had featured in some of the 2nd edition artwork (especially pieces by John Blanche) were amplified, to the point where they became defining elements of the franchise.
*** Subsequent editions have maintained this aesthetic, although some of the more adult parts have been toned down to make the game a bit more family-friendly. One of the more notorious examples among the fandom is the Daemonettes of Slaanesh: just compare the models that they had during [[http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/5/58/Daemonettes_miniatures.jpg 3rd edition]] (warning: mildly [[NotSafeForWork NSFW]]) with the less sexualised ones that replaced them in [[http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/f/f4/Daemonettes_miniatures_%284th_Edition%29.jpg 4th]].
** The Tau, initially introduced as a highly idealistic alien species, received a number of complaints about being {{Purity Sue}}s. Cue 7th Edition, which shows the Tau have adopted a policy of extermination on a number of species including the Orks and the Eldar (as they are "lost causes") and stopped peacefully integrating human populations in favour of simply sending everyone off to forced labour camps. There's also the startling reveal that [[spoiler:the Ethereal caste are controlling the other Tau through pheromones, and also suppressing knowledge of Chaos in the Tau population at large - which is [[DefectorFromDecadence why Commander Farsight left]].]]
** The tagline - "In the grim, dark future of the 41st millennium, there is only war" - led to the {{meme}} of "[[http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Grimdark grimdark]]", the extreme edge of Darker And Edgier where everything is so bleak and nasty [[{{Narm}} it tips over into being ridiculous]] (although that [[NarmCharm can still be highly entertaining]] -- if [[SoBadItsGood not in the way it was intended]] -- or even ''[[NarmCharm awesome]]''). Alternatively, it means embracing the BlackComedy potential of the relentlessly hopeless nature of such an absurdly bleak setting, as exemplified by ''TabletopGame/{{Paranoia}}''.- Thanks to MemeticMutation the term escaped and has largely morphed into DarkerAndEdgier played ''totally straight'' in common usage, meaning many people do not consider the setting grimdark despite naming the term.
** The novels of ''Warhammer 40000'' often play around with this trope. Notably our favorite HERO OF THE IMPERIUM, Literature/CiaphasCain's novels are significantly LighterAndSofter than the rest of the universe.
** The 3rd edition of ''Warhammer 40000'' is often seen by fans as being this trope to the editions that came before it, as it abandoned a lot of the game's lightheartedness and pushed the [[CrapsackWorld Crapsack Galaxy]] aspect UpToEleven. In addition, the gothic aspects that had featured in some of the 2nd edition artwork (especially pieces by John Blanche) were amplified, to the point where they became defining elements of the franchise.
*** Subsequent editions have maintained this aesthetic, although some of the more adult parts have been toned down to make the game a bit more family-friendly. One of the more notorious examples among the fandom is the Daemonettes of Slaanesh: just compare the models that they had during [[http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/5/58/Daemonettes_miniatures.jpg 3rd edition]] (warning: mildly [[NotSafeForWork NSFW]]) with the less sexualised ones that replaced them in [[http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/f/f4/Daemonettes_miniatures_%284th_Edition%29.jpg 4th]].
** The Tau, initially introduced as a highly idealistic alien species, received a number of complaints about being {{Purity Sue}}s. Cue 7th Edition, which shows the Tau have adopted a policy of extermination on a number of species including the Orks and the Eldar (as they are "lost causes") and stopped peacefully integrating human populations in favour of simply sending everyone off to forced labour camps. There's also the startling reveal that [[spoiler:the Ethereal caste are controlling the other Tau through pheromones, and also suppressing knowledge of Chaos in the Tau population at large - which is [[DefectorFromDecadence why Commander Farsight left]].]]
to:
** The tagline - "In the grim, dark future of the 41st millennium, there is only war" - led to the {{meme}} of "[[http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Grimdark grimdark]]", the extreme edge of Darker And Edgier where everything is so bleak and nasty [[{{Narm}} it tips over into being ridiculous]] (although that [[NarmCharm can still be highly entertaining]] -- if [[SoBadItsGood not in the way it was intended]] -- or even ''[[NarmCharm awesome]]''). Alternatively, it means embracing the BlackComedy potential of the relentlessly hopeless nature of such an absurdly bleak setting, as exemplified by ''TabletopGame/{{Paranoia}}''.- Thanks to MemeticMutation the term escaped and
%%
%% This page has
** The novels of ''Warhammer 40000'' often play around with this trope. Notably our favorite HERO OF THE IMPERIUM, Literature/CiaphasCain's novels are significantly LighterAndSofter than the rest of the universe.
** The 3rd edition of ''Warhammer 40000'' is often seen by fans as being this trope to the editions that came before it, as it abandoned a lot of the game's lightheartedness and pushed the [[CrapsackWorld Crapsack Galaxy]] aspect UpToEleven. In addition, the gothic aspects that had featured in some of the 2nd edition artwork (especially pieces by John Blanche) were amplified, to the point where they became defining elements of the franchise.
*** Subsequent editions have maintained this aesthetic, although some of the more adult parts have
** The Tau, initially introduced as a highly idealistic alien species, received a number of complaints about being {{Purity Sue}}s. Cue 7th Edition, which shows the Tau have adopted a policy of extermination on a number of species including the Orks and the Eldar (as they are "lost causes") and stopped peacefully integrating human populations in favour of simply sending everyone off to forced labour camps. There's also the startling reveal that [[spoiler:the Ethereal caste are controlling the other Tau through pheromones, and also suppressing knowledge of Chaos
%%
%%%
----
* ''TabletopGame/{{Exalted}}'' is for adults to begin with, but the splat for Abyssals takes it up to a whole new level of disturbing. You're a machine of murder, and all of the solutions you can come up with involve death and destruction whereas Solars, Lunars, and even the frikkin' Infernals can nurture and build. [[DarknessInducedAudienceApathy Unfortunately it's badly done, and it's one of the more ignored official materials.]]
* The 6th edition of ''TabletopGame/GammaWorld'' used the ''TabletopGame/D20Modern'' ruleset and was the grimmest, darkest edition of the game, period. While the first edition of TabletopGame/GammaWorld had been a parody of post-nuclear apocalypse, a BlackComedy rich game of wackiness, where one could see things like a laser rifle-toting yeti/cockroach hybrid, Gamma World D20 took everything seriously, making the backstory realistic (genetic engineering and nanotech vs. nuclear war) and portraying all of the horror inherent in such a ruined, freakish world. Gamma World 1e would point out the hilarious side of fighting a garbage grinding robot whose programming had gone mad: Gamma World 6e would emphatically point out what it would like to be on the wrong end of those grinding, snapping, mashing jaws and relentless, implacable hunger... For better or for worse, the 7th edition swung towards [[LighterAndSofter playing up the comedic aspect for all its worth]].
* The ''TabletopGame/OldWorldOfDarkness'' was initially marketed along these lines, as an "adult role-playing game" for "mature gamers." Both it and the SpiritualSuccessor ''TabletopGame/NewWorldOfDarkness'' can be described as modern day Earth... only, you guessed it, darker and edgier. And within the overall series, ''Changeling'' is an example. The original game, ''TabletopGame/ChangelingTheDreaming'' had [[CrapsaccharineWorld its darker]] [[{{Gotterdammerung}} moments]], but was widely considered "kiddy" as it was a game about the power of imagination and [[GrowingUpSucks resisting crushing banality]]. Then came ''TabletopGame/ChangelingTheLost'', which hewed ''much'' closer to the original myths of TheFairFolk by having the main characters be humans who fought their way back to Earth after being abducted and hideously abused by mad alien gods.
** The TabletopGame/NewWorldOfDarkness actually plays with this. True, the world is, in general, more miserable and suspicious, but there aren't any looming apocalypses or sense that things are getting worse beyond the perspectives of individual people, and the [[BlackAndGrayMorality moral fabric]] has been lightened a bit (even the CardCarryingVillain groups have explicit EvilVirtues and actual reasons for what they do-however arcane those reasons are). Thus, it's only the prerogative of the [[GameMaster Storyteller]] that decides if it's a WorldHalfFull or not. And you know Lost? ''"World Half Full" is one of the basic premises of the game''. You know what happens to the Lost if they avoid behavior they know is dangerous [[spoiler:like maxing out Wyrd and not decreasing it after you start being hit with Clarity rolls]]? [[spoiler:'''Absolutely nothing.''' This is in contrast to the old game, where it was either death or [[FaceHeelTurn going Dauntain]].]]
* The 6th edition of ''TabletopGame/GammaWorld'' used the ''TabletopGame/D20Modern'' ruleset and was the grimmest, darkest edition of the game, period. While the first edition of TabletopGame/GammaWorld had been a parody of post-nuclear apocalypse, a BlackComedy rich game of wackiness, where one could see things like a laser rifle-toting yeti/cockroach hybrid, Gamma World D20 took everything seriously, making the backstory realistic (genetic engineering and nanotech vs. nuclear war) and portraying all of the horror inherent in such a ruined, freakish world. Gamma World 1e would point out the hilarious side of fighting a garbage grinding robot whose programming had gone mad: Gamma World 6e would emphatically point out what it would like to be on the wrong end of those grinding, snapping, mashing jaws and relentless, implacable hunger... For better or for worse, the 7th edition swung towards [[LighterAndSofter playing up the comedic aspect for all its worth]].
* The ''TabletopGame/OldWorldOfDarkness'' was initially marketed along these lines, as an "adult role-playing game" for "mature gamers." Both it and the SpiritualSuccessor ''TabletopGame/NewWorldOfDarkness'' can be described as modern day Earth... only, you guessed it, darker and edgier. And within the overall series, ''Changeling'' is an example. The original game, ''TabletopGame/ChangelingTheDreaming'' had [[CrapsaccharineWorld its darker]] [[{{Gotterdammerung}} moments]], but was widely considered "kiddy" as it was a game about the power of imagination and [[GrowingUpSucks resisting crushing banality]]. Then came ''TabletopGame/ChangelingTheLost'', which hewed ''much'' closer to the original myths of TheFairFolk by having the main characters be humans who fought their way back to Earth after being abducted and hideously abused by mad alien gods.
** The TabletopGame/NewWorldOfDarkness actually plays with this. True, the world is, in general, more miserable and suspicious, but there aren't any looming apocalypses or sense that things are getting worse beyond the perspectives of individual people, and the [[BlackAndGrayMorality moral fabric]] has been lightened a bit (even the CardCarryingVillain groups have explicit EvilVirtues and actual reasons for what they do-however arcane those reasons are). Thus, it's only the prerogative of the [[GameMaster Storyteller]] that decides if it's a WorldHalfFull or not. And you know Lost? ''"World Half Full" is one of the basic premises of the game''. You know what happens to the Lost if they avoid behavior they know is dangerous [[spoiler:like maxing out Wyrd and not decreasing it after you start being hit with Clarity rolls]]? [[spoiler:'''Absolutely nothing.''' This is in contrast to the old game, where it was either death or [[FaceHeelTurn going Dauntain]].]]
Deleted line(s) 17,22 (click to see context) :
%%* ''TabletopGame/BlissStage'' is essentially "Manga/{{Bokurano}}: The Roleplaying Game".
* The ''TabletopGame/OldWorldOfDarkness'' was initially marketed along these lines, as an "adult role-playing game" for "mature gamers." Both it and the SpiritualSuccessor ''TabletopGame/NewWorldOfDarkness'' can be described as modern day Earth... only, you guessed it, darker and edgier. And within the overall series, ''Changeling'' is an example. The original game, ''TabletopGame/ChangelingTheDreaming'' had [[CrapsaccharineWorld its darker]] [[{{Gotterdammerung}} moments]], but was widely considered "kiddy" as it was a game about the power of imagination and [[GrowingUpSucks resisting crushing banality]]. Then came ''TabletopGame/ChangelingTheLost'', which hewed ''much'' closer to the original myths of TheFairFolk by having the main characters be humans who fought their way back to Earth after being abducted and hideously abused by mad alien gods.
** The TabletopGame/NewWorldOfDarkness actually plays with this. True, the world is, in general, more miserable and suspicious, but there aren't any looming apocalypses or sense that things are getting worse beyond the perspectives of individual people, and the [[BlackAndGrayMorality moral fabric]] has been lightened a bit (even the CardCarryingVillain groups have explicit EvilVirtues and actual reasons for what they do-however arcane those reasons are). Thus, it's only the prerogative of the [[GameMaster Storyteller]] that decides if it's a WorldHalfFull or not. And you know Lost? ''"World Half Full" is one of the basic premises of the game''. You know what happens to the Lost if they avoid behavior they know is dangerous [[spoiler:like maxing out Wyrd and not decreasing it after you start being hit with Clarity rolls]]? [[spoiler:'''Absolutely nothing.''' This is in contrast to the old game, where it was either death or [[FaceHeelTurn going Dauntain]].]]
* The 6th edition of ''TabletopGame/GammaWorld'' used the ''TabletopGame/D20Modern'' ruleset and was the grimmest, darkest edition of the game, period. While the first edition of TabletopGame/GammaWorld had been a parody of post-nuclear apocalypse, a BlackComedy rich game of wackiness, where one could see things like a laser rifle-toting yeti/cockroach hybrid, Gamma World D20 took everything seriously, making the backstory realistic (genetic engineering and nanotech vs. nuclear war) and portraying all of the horror inherent in such a ruined, freakish world. Gamma World 1e would point out the hilarious side of fighting a garbage grinding robot whose programming had gone mad: Gamma World 6e would emphatically point out what it would like to be on the wrong end of those grinding, snapping, mashing jaws and relentless, implacable hunger... For better or for worse, the 7th edition swung towards [[LighterAndSofter playing up the comedic aspect for all its worth]].
* ''TabletopGame/{{Exalted}}'' is for adults to begin with, but the splat for Abyssals takes it up to a whole new level of disturbing. You're a machine of murder, and all of the solutions you can come up with involve death and destruction whereas Solars, Lunars, and even the frikkin' Infernals can nurture and build. [[DarknessInducedAudienceApathy Unfortunately it's badly done, and it's one of the more ignored official materials.]]
* ''TabletopGame/WitchGirls'' was initially a lighthearted RPG parodying girls' shows like WITCH or Winx Club, but after the weird transformation fetishism inherent in the design was gradually revealed, it came out with a "Wicked Edition", supplements included primarily NightmareFuel monsters, and a "Zombiegeddon" was scheduled focusing on necromancy-type witches.
* The ''TabletopGame/OldWorldOfDarkness'' was initially marketed along these lines, as an "adult role-playing game" for "mature gamers." Both it and the SpiritualSuccessor ''TabletopGame/NewWorldOfDarkness'' can be described as modern day Earth... only, you guessed it, darker and edgier. And within the overall series, ''Changeling'' is an example. The original game, ''TabletopGame/ChangelingTheDreaming'' had [[CrapsaccharineWorld its darker]] [[{{Gotterdammerung}} moments]], but was widely considered "kiddy" as it was a game about the power of imagination and [[GrowingUpSucks resisting crushing banality]]. Then came ''TabletopGame/ChangelingTheLost'', which hewed ''much'' closer to the original myths of TheFairFolk by having the main characters be humans who fought their way back to Earth after being abducted and hideously abused by mad alien gods.
** The TabletopGame/NewWorldOfDarkness actually plays with this. True, the world is, in general, more miserable and suspicious, but there aren't any looming apocalypses or sense that things are getting worse beyond the perspectives of individual people, and the [[BlackAndGrayMorality moral fabric]] has been lightened a bit (even the CardCarryingVillain groups have explicit EvilVirtues and actual reasons for what they do-however arcane those reasons are). Thus, it's only the prerogative of the [[GameMaster Storyteller]] that decides if it's a WorldHalfFull or not. And you know Lost? ''"World Half Full" is one of the basic premises of the game''. You know what happens to the Lost if they avoid behavior they know is dangerous [[spoiler:like maxing out Wyrd and not decreasing it after you start being hit with Clarity rolls]]? [[spoiler:'''Absolutely nothing.''' This is in contrast to the old game, where it was either death or [[FaceHeelTurn going Dauntain]].]]
* The 6th edition of ''TabletopGame/GammaWorld'' used the ''TabletopGame/D20Modern'' ruleset and was the grimmest, darkest edition of the game, period. While the first edition of TabletopGame/GammaWorld had been a parody of post-nuclear apocalypse, a BlackComedy rich game of wackiness, where one could see things like a laser rifle-toting yeti/cockroach hybrid, Gamma World D20 took everything seriously, making the backstory realistic (genetic engineering and nanotech vs. nuclear war) and portraying all of the horror inherent in such a ruined, freakish world. Gamma World 1e would point out the hilarious side of fighting a garbage grinding robot whose programming had gone mad: Gamma World 6e would emphatically point out what it would like to be on the wrong end of those grinding, snapping, mashing jaws and relentless, implacable hunger... For better or for worse, the 7th edition swung towards [[LighterAndSofter playing up the comedic aspect for all its worth]].
* ''TabletopGame/{{Exalted}}'' is for adults to begin with, but the splat for Abyssals takes it up to a whole new level of disturbing. You're a machine of murder, and all of the solutions you can come up with involve death and destruction whereas Solars, Lunars, and even the frikkin' Infernals can nurture and build. [[DarknessInducedAudienceApathy Unfortunately it's badly done, and it's one of the more ignored official materials.]]
* ''TabletopGame/WitchGirls'' was initially a lighthearted RPG parodying girls' shows like WITCH or Winx Club, but after the weird transformation fetishism inherent in the design was gradually revealed, it came out with a "Wicked Edition", supplements included primarily NightmareFuel monsters, and a "Zombiegeddon" was scheduled focusing on necromancy-type witches.
Added DiffLines:
* ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' is this trope to ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}} Fantasy'' (which itself was already DarkerAndEdgier by tabletop game standards), though not by the margins of some other works on this page, as the source material was [[UnbuiltTrope already parodying "Darker and Edgier" works by playing this trope to the extreme]]. Needless to say, it served as the TropeCodifier.
** The tagline - "In the grim, dark future of the 41st millennium, there is only war" - led to the {{meme}} of "[[http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Grimdark grimdark]]", the extreme edge of Darker And Edgier where everything is so bleak and nasty [[{{Narm}} it tips over into being ridiculous]] (although that [[NarmCharm can still be highly entertaining]] -- if [[SoBadItsGood not in the way it was intended]] -- or even ''[[NarmCharm awesome]]''). Alternatively, it means embracing the BlackComedy potential of the relentlessly hopeless nature of such an absurdly bleak setting, as exemplified by ''TabletopGame/{{Paranoia}}''. Thanks to MemeticMutation the term escaped and has largely morphed into DarkerAndEdgier played ''totally straight'' in common usage, meaning many people do not consider the setting grimdark despite naming the term.
** The novels of ''Warhammer 40000'' often play around with this trope. Notably our favorite HERO OF THE IMPERIUM, Literature/CiaphasCain's novels are significantly LighterAndSofter than the rest of the universe.
** The 3rd edition of ''Warhammer 40000'' is often seen by fans as being this trope to the editions that came before it, as it abandoned a lot of the game's lightheartedness and pushed the [[CrapsackWorld Crapsack Galaxy]] aspect UpToEleven. In addition, the gothic aspects that had featured in some of the 2nd edition artwork (especially pieces by John Blanche) were amplified, to the point where they became defining elements of the franchise.
*** Subsequent editions have maintained this aesthetic, although some of the more adult parts have been toned down to make the game a bit more family-friendly. One of the more notorious examples among the fandom is the Daemonettes of Slaanesh: just compare the models that they had during [[http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/5/58/Daemonettes_miniatures.jpg 3rd edition]] (warning: mildly [[NotSafeForWork NSFW]]) with the less sexualised ones that replaced them in [[http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/f/f4/Daemonettes_miniatures_%284th_Edition%29.jpg 4th]].
** The Tau, initially introduced as a highly idealistic alien species, received a number of complaints about being {{Purity Sue}}s. Cue 7th Edition, which shows the Tau have adopted a policy of extermination on a number of species including the Orks and the Eldar (as they are "lost causes") and stopped peacefully integrating human populations in favour of simply sending everyone off to forced labour camps. There's also the startling reveal that [[spoiler:the Ethereal caste are controlling the other Tau through pheromones, and also suppressing knowledge of Chaos in the Tau population at large -- which is [[DefectorFromDecadence why Commander Farsight left]].]]
* ''TabletopGame/WitchGirls'' was initially a lighthearted RPG parodying girls' shows like WITCH or Winx Club, but after the weird transformation fetishism inherent in the design was gradually revealed, it came out with a "Wicked Edition", supplements included primarily NightmareFuel monsters, and a "Zombiegeddon" was scheduled focusing on necromancy-type witches.
** The tagline - "In the grim, dark future of the 41st millennium, there is only war" - led to the {{meme}} of "[[http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Grimdark grimdark]]", the extreme edge of Darker And Edgier where everything is so bleak and nasty [[{{Narm}} it tips over into being ridiculous]] (although that [[NarmCharm can still be highly entertaining]] -- if [[SoBadItsGood not in the way it was intended]] -- or even ''[[NarmCharm awesome]]''). Alternatively, it means embracing the BlackComedy potential of the relentlessly hopeless nature of such an absurdly bleak setting, as exemplified by ''TabletopGame/{{Paranoia}}''. Thanks to MemeticMutation the term escaped and has largely morphed into DarkerAndEdgier played ''totally straight'' in common usage, meaning many people do not consider the setting grimdark despite naming the term.
** The novels of ''Warhammer 40000'' often play around with this trope. Notably our favorite HERO OF THE IMPERIUM, Literature/CiaphasCain's novels are significantly LighterAndSofter than the rest of the universe.
** The 3rd edition of ''Warhammer 40000'' is often seen by fans as being this trope to the editions that came before it, as it abandoned a lot of the game's lightheartedness and pushed the [[CrapsackWorld Crapsack Galaxy]] aspect UpToEleven. In addition, the gothic aspects that had featured in some of the 2nd edition artwork (especially pieces by John Blanche) were amplified, to the point where they became defining elements of the franchise.
*** Subsequent editions have maintained this aesthetic, although some of the more adult parts have been toned down to make the game a bit more family-friendly. One of the more notorious examples among the fandom is the Daemonettes of Slaanesh: just compare the models that they had during [[http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/5/58/Daemonettes_miniatures.jpg 3rd edition]] (warning: mildly [[NotSafeForWork NSFW]]) with the less sexualised ones that replaced them in [[http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/f/f4/Daemonettes_miniatures_%284th_Edition%29.jpg 4th]].
** The Tau, initially introduced as a highly idealistic alien species, received a number of complaints about being {{Purity Sue}}s. Cue 7th Edition, which shows the Tau have adopted a policy of extermination on a number of species including the Orks and the Eldar (as they are "lost causes") and stopped peacefully integrating human populations in favour of simply sending everyone off to forced labour camps. There's also the startling reveal that [[spoiler:the Ethereal caste are controlling the other Tau through pheromones, and also suppressing knowledge of Chaos in the Tau population at large -- which is [[DefectorFromDecadence why Commander Farsight left]].]]
* ''TabletopGame/WitchGirls'' was initially a lighthearted RPG parodying girls' shows like WITCH or Winx Club, but after the weird transformation fetishism inherent in the design was gradually revealed, it came out with a "Wicked Edition", supplements included primarily NightmareFuel monsters, and a "Zombiegeddon" was scheduled focusing on necromancy-type witches.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 1 (click to see context) from:
* ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' is this trope to ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}} Fantasy'' (which itself was already DarkerAndEdgier by tabletop game standards), though not by the margins of some other works on this page, as the source material was already parodying "Darker and Edgier" works by playing this trope to the extreme. Needless to say, it served as the TropeCodifier.
to:
* ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' is this trope to ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}} Fantasy'' (which itself was already DarkerAndEdgier by tabletop game standards), though not by the margins of some other works on this page, as the source material was [[UnbuiltTrope already parodying "Darker and Edgier" works by playing this trope to the extreme.extreme]]. Needless to say, it served as the TropeCodifier.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 21 (click to see context) from:
* ''TabletopGame/{{Exalted}}'' is for adult to begin with, but the splat for Abyssals take it up to a whole new level of disturbing. You're a machine of murder, and all of solutions you can come up with involves death and destruction whereas Solars, Lunars, and even the frikkin' Infernals can nurture and build. [[DarknessInducedAudienceApathy Unfortunately it's badly done, and it's one of the more ignored official material.]]
to:
* ''TabletopGame/{{Exalted}}'' is for adult adults to begin with, but the splat for Abyssals take takes it up to a whole new level of disturbing. You're a machine of murder, and all of the solutions you can come up with involves involve death and destruction whereas Solars, Lunars, and even the frikkin' Infernals can nurture and build. [[DarknessInducedAudienceApathy Unfortunately it's badly done, and it's one of the more ignored official material.materials.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 1 (click to see context) from:
* ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' is this trope to ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}} Fantasy'', though not by the margins of some other works on this page, as the source material was already parodying "Darker and Edgier" works by playing this trope to the extreme.
to:
* ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' is this trope to ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}} Fantasy'', Fantasy'' (which itself was already DarkerAndEdgier by tabletop game standards), though not by the margins of some other works on this page, as the source material was already parodying "Darker and Edgier" works by playing this trope to the extreme.extreme. Needless to say, it served as the TropeCodifier.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 19 (click to see context) from:
** The TabletopGame/NewWorldOfDarkness actually plays with this. True, the world is, in general, more miserable and suspicious, but there aren't any looming apocalypses or sense that things are getting worse beyond the perspectives of individual people, and the [[BlackAndGreyMorality moral fabric]] has been lightened a bit (even the CardCarryingVillain groups have explicit EvilVirtues and actual reasons for what they do-however arcane those reasons are). Thus, it's only the prerogative of the [[GameMaster Storyteller]] that decides if it's a WorldHalfFull or not. And you know Lost? ''"World Half Full" is one of the basic premises of the game''. You know what happens to the Lost if they avoid behavior they know is dangerous [[spoiler:like maxing out Wyrd and not decreasing it after you start being hit with Clarity rolls]]? [[spoiler:'''Absolutely nothing.''' This is in contrast to the old game, where it was either death or [[FaceHeelTurn going Dauntain]].]]
to:
** The TabletopGame/NewWorldOfDarkness actually plays with this. True, the world is, in general, more miserable and suspicious, but there aren't any looming apocalypses or sense that things are getting worse beyond the perspectives of individual people, and the [[BlackAndGreyMorality [[BlackAndGrayMorality moral fabric]] has been lightened a bit (even the CardCarryingVillain groups have explicit EvilVirtues and actual reasons for what they do-however arcane those reasons are). Thus, it's only the prerogative of the [[GameMaster Storyteller]] that decides if it's a WorldHalfFull or not. And you know Lost? ''"World Half Full" is one of the basic premises of the game''. You know what happens to the Lost if they avoid behavior they know is dangerous [[spoiler:like maxing out Wyrd and not decreasing it after you start being hit with Clarity rolls]]? [[spoiler:'''Absolutely nothing.''' This is in contrast to the old game, where it was either death or [[FaceHeelTurn going Dauntain]].]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 16 (click to see context) from:
* The ''TabletopGame/{{Pathfinder}}'' Adventure Paths and campaign setting have also gotten noticeably DarkerAndEdgier. The half-orcs' origins as the product are made more explicit, ogres are reimagined as inbred monsters right out of ''Deliverance'', and most monsters explicitly like to eat people. Even the gnomes get in on the act. In ''Pathfinder'', they are fey creatures who have been separated from their original world. If they do not constantly seek out new and ever more sensational experiences, their features begin to 'bleach', the banality of existence aging them to death.
to:
* The ''TabletopGame/{{Pathfinder}}'' Adventure Paths and campaign setting have also gotten noticeably DarkerAndEdgier. The half-orcs' origins as the product of rape are made more explicit, ogres are reimagined as inbred monsters right out of ''Deliverance'', and most monsters explicitly like to eat people. Even the gnomes get in on the act. In ''Pathfinder'', they are fey creatures who have been separated from their original world. If they do not constantly seek out new and ever more sensational experiences, their features begin to 'bleach', the banality of existence aging them to death.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 25 (click to see context) from:
to:
* In fall of 2018, Hasbro released a series of "parody" versions of classic board games to which they had the license, which added dares, stunts, and elements of adult-oriented humor. These included ''TabletopGame/GameOfLife: Quarter Life Crisis'', which casts the players as struggling twenty-something millennials racing to pay off their "crippling debt"; ''Sorry: Not Sorry'', which combined the classic Parcheesi variant with "Not Sorry!" cards that could force your opponents to answer "Have you ever...?" questions; and ''TabletopGame/{{Clue}}: Lost in Vegas'', where the mystery to be solved is not "Who killed Mr. Black?", but [[WhatDidIDoLastNight "What happened to our mutual friend Buddy after a wild night in Las Vegas?"]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 24 (click to see context) from:
to:
* The second and third editions of ''TabletopGame/{{Traveller}}'', ''[=MegaTraveller=]'' and ''The New Era'', got progressively darker. MT ''opened'' with the assassination of TheEmperor and a drawn-out CivilWar shattering the Imperium. Things went FromBadToWorse in the so-called Hard Times and the Black War, where several factions targetted their enemies' civilian populations. Between then and TNE, [[AIIsACrapshoot Virus]], a superweapon created as part of [[TheCaligula Lucan]]'s FinalSolution, was released, wiping out or enslaving most life in Charted Space.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 13 (click to see context) from:
** ''TabletopGame/ForgottenRealms'' definitely went darker, with glorious cathedrals crumbling and different gods and [[GodModeSue longtime power characters]] being slain or depowered left and right. Though one must remember that ''ForgottenRealms'' wasn't the only campaign setting, just the most popular; other settings, particularly ''TabletopGame/{{Ravenloft}}'' and ''TabletopGame/DarkSun'', were noticeably darker than FR was anyway -- this more brought FR "down" to ''TabletopGame/{{Greyhawk}}'''s level. Players still have ''TabletopGame/{{Eberron}}'', with its pulp-adventure-y feel, for less depressing fare.
to:
** ''TabletopGame/ForgottenRealms'' definitely went darker, with glorious cathedrals crumbling and different gods and [[GodModeSue longtime power characters]] being slain or depowered left and right. Though one must remember that ''ForgottenRealms'' ''TabletopGame/ForgottenRealms'' wasn't the only campaign setting, just the most popular; other settings, particularly ''TabletopGame/{{Ravenloft}}'' and ''TabletopGame/DarkSun'', were noticeably darker than FR was anyway -- this more brought FR "down" to ''TabletopGame/{{Greyhawk}}'''s level. Players still have ''TabletopGame/{{Eberron}}'', with its pulp-adventure-y feel, for less depressing fare.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 2 (click to see context) from:
** The tagline - "In the grim, dark future of the 41st millennium, there is only war" - led to the {{meme}} of "[[http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Grimdark grimdark]]", the extreme edge of Darker And Edgier where everything is so bleak and nasty [[{{Narm}} it tips over into being ridiculous]] (although that [[NarmCharm can still be highly entertaining]] -- if [[SoBadItsGood not in the way it was intended]] -- or even ''[[NarmCharm awesome]]''). Alternatively, it means embracing the BlackComedy potential of the relentlessly hopeless nature of such an absurdly bleak setting, as exemplified by ''TabletopGame/{{Paranoia}}''.
to:
** The tagline - "In the grim, dark future of the 41st millennium, there is only war" - led to the {{meme}} of "[[http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Grimdark grimdark]]", the extreme edge of Darker And Edgier where everything is so bleak and nasty [[{{Narm}} it tips over into being ridiculous]] (although that [[NarmCharm can still be highly entertaining]] -- if [[SoBadItsGood not in the way it was intended]] -- or even ''[[NarmCharm awesome]]''). Alternatively, it means embracing the BlackComedy potential of the relentlessly hopeless nature of such an absurdly bleak setting, as exemplified by ''TabletopGame/{{Paranoia}}''.- Thanks to MemeticMutation the term escaped and has largely morphed into DarkerAndEdgier played ''totally straight'' in common usage, meaning many people do not consider the setting grimdark despite naming the term.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
"Book of Shadows" is a generic term for a witch's journal/spellbook. It doesn't imply darkness or evil.
Changed line(s) 22 (click to see context) from:
* ''TabletopGame/WitchGirls'' was initially a lighthearted RPG parodying girls' shows like WITCH or Winx Club, but after the weird transformation fetishism inherent in the design was gradually revealed, it came out with a "Wicked Edition", supplements included primarily NightmareFuel monsters, a "Zombiegeddon" was scheduled focusing on necromancy-type witches, and the second edition is set to be titled "Book of Shadows".
to:
* ''TabletopGame/WitchGirls'' was initially a lighthearted RPG parodying girls' shows like WITCH or Winx Club, but after the weird transformation fetishism inherent in the design was gradually revealed, it came out with a "Wicked Edition", supplements included primarily NightmareFuel monsters, and a "Zombiegeddon" was scheduled focusing on necromancy-type witches, and the second edition is set to be titled "Book of Shadows".witches.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 19 (click to see context) from:
** The NewWorldOfDarkness actually plays with this. True, the world is, in general, more miserable and suspicious, but there aren't any looming apocalypses or sense that things are getting worse beyond the perspectives of individual people, and the [[BlackAndGreyMorality moral fabric]] has been lightened a bit (even the CardCarryingVillain groups have explicit EvilVirtues and actual reasons for what they do-however arcane those reasons are). Thus, it's only the prerogative of the [[GameMaster Storyteller]] that decides if it's a WorldHalfFull or not. And you know Lost? ''"World Half Full" is one of the basic premises of the game''. You know what happens to the Lost if they avoid behavior they know is dangerous [[spoiler:like maxing out Wyrd and not decreasing it after you start being hit with Clarity rolls]]? [[spoiler:'''Absolutely nothing.''' This is in contrast to the old game, where it was either death or [[FaceHeelTurn going Dauntain]].]]
to:
** The NewWorldOfDarkness TabletopGame/NewWorldOfDarkness actually plays with this. True, the world is, in general, more miserable and suspicious, but there aren't any looming apocalypses or sense that things are getting worse beyond the perspectives of individual people, and the [[BlackAndGreyMorality moral fabric]] has been lightened a bit (even the CardCarryingVillain groups have explicit EvilVirtues and actual reasons for what they do-however arcane those reasons are). Thus, it's only the prerogative of the [[GameMaster Storyteller]] that decides if it's a WorldHalfFull or not. And you know Lost? ''"World Half Full" is one of the basic premises of the game''. You know what happens to the Lost if they avoid behavior they know is dangerous [[spoiler:like maxing out Wyrd and not decreasing it after you start being hit with Clarity rolls]]? [[spoiler:'''Absolutely nothing.''' This is in contrast to the old game, where it was either death or [[FaceHeelTurn going Dauntain]].]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
** The Tau, initially introduced as a highly idealistic alien species, received a number of complaints about being {{Purity Sue}}s. Cue 7th Edition, which shows the Tau have adopted a policy of extermination on a number of species including the Orks and the Eldar (as they are "lost causes") and stopped peacefully integrating human populations in favour of simply sending everyone off to forced labour camps. There's also the startling reveal that [[spoiler:the Ethereal caste are controlling the other Tau through pheromones, and also suppressing knowledge of Chaos in the Tau population at large - which is [[DefectorFromDecadence why Commander Farsight left]].]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 19 (click to see context) from:
* The 6th edition of ''TabletopGame/GammaWorld'' used the ''D20Modern'' ruleset and was the grimmest, darkest edition of the game, period. While the first edition of TabletopGame/GammaWorld had been a parody of post-nuclear apocalypse, a BlackComedy rich game of wackiness, where one could see things like a laser rifle-toting yeti/cockroach hybrid, Gamma World D20 took everything seriously, making the backstory realistic (genetic engineering and nanotech vs. nuclear war) and portraying all of the horror inherent in such a ruined, freakish world. Gamma World 1e would point out the hilarious side of fighting a garbage grinding robot whose programming had gone mad: Gamma World 6e would emphatically point out what it would like to be on the wrong end of those grinding, snapping, mashing jaws and relentless, implacable hunger... For better or for worse, the 7th edition swung towards [[LighterAndSofter playing up the comedic aspect for all its worth]].
to:
* The 6th edition of ''TabletopGame/GammaWorld'' used the ''D20Modern'' ''TabletopGame/D20Modern'' ruleset and was the grimmest, darkest edition of the game, period. While the first edition of TabletopGame/GammaWorld had been a parody of post-nuclear apocalypse, a BlackComedy rich game of wackiness, where one could see things like a laser rifle-toting yeti/cockroach hybrid, Gamma World D20 took everything seriously, making the backstory realistic (genetic engineering and nanotech vs. nuclear war) and portraying all of the horror inherent in such a ruined, freakish world. Gamma World 1e would point out the hilarious side of fighting a garbage grinding robot whose programming had gone mad: Gamma World 6e would emphatically point out what it would like to be on the wrong end of those grinding, snapping, mashing jaws and relentless, implacable hunger... For better or for worse, the 7th edition swung towards [[LighterAndSofter playing up the comedic aspect for all its worth]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Changed line(s) 7 (click to see context) from:
** The first player's handbook removed the gnomes and replaced them with tieflings, who are no longer fiend-blooded mortals but the blood-cursed descendants of a FallenEmpire that turned to worship of Asmodeus in an effort to conquer the world and lost everything.
to:
** The first player's handbook removed the gnomes and replaced them with tieflings, who are no longer fiend-blooded mortals but the blood-cursed descendants of a FallenEmpire fallen empire that turned to worship of Asmodeus in an effort to conquer the world and lost everything.
Changed line(s) 10 (click to see context) from:
** Elves went from being super-perfect beings who were naturally gifted in both nature and magic to two races; the "masters of magic" became the Eladrin race, who are now a FallenEmpire that struggle ceaselessly against their Drow kindred and the above-mentioned Fomorians, whilst the Elves who retain the "ones who walk with nature" aspect are now those who were stranded in (or fled to) the mortal world, where they have lost the bulk of their magical nature from living outside of the Feywild.
to:
** Elves went from being super-perfect beings who were naturally gifted in both nature and magic to two races; the "masters of magic" became the Eladrin race, who are now a FallenEmpire fallen empire that struggle ceaselessly against their Drow kindred and the above-mentioned Fomorians, whilst the Elves who retain the "ones who walk with nature" aspect are now those who were stranded in (or fled to) the mortal world, where they have lost the bulk of their magical nature from living outside of the Feywild.
Changed line(s) 16 (click to see context) from:
* ''TabletopGame/BlissStage'' is essentially "Manga/{{Bokurano}}: The Roleplaying Game".
to:
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 4,5 (click to see context) from:
** The 3rd edition of ''Warhammer 40000'' is often seen by fans as being this trope to the editions that came before it, as it abandoned a lot of the game's lightheartedness and pushed the [[CrapsackWorld Crapsack Galaxy]] aspect UpToEleven. In addition, the gothic aspects that had featured in some of the 2nd edition artwork (especially in John Blanche's pieces) were amplified, to the point where they became defining elements of the franchise.
*** Subsequent editions have maintained this aesthetic, although some of the more adult parts have been toned down to make the game a bit more family-friendly. One of the more notorious examples among the fandom is the Daemonettes of Slaanesh: just compare the models that they had during [[http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/5/58/Daemonettes_miniatures.jpg 3rd edition]] (warning: mildly [[NotSafeForWork NSFW]]) with the more bestial, and less sexualised, ones that replaced them in [[http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/f/f4/Daemonettes_miniatures_%284th_Edition%29.jpg 4th]].
*** Subsequent editions have maintained this aesthetic, although some of the more adult parts have been toned down to make the game a bit more family-friendly. One of the more notorious examples among the fandom is the Daemonettes of Slaanesh: just compare the models that they had during [[http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/5/58/Daemonettes_miniatures.jpg 3rd edition]] (warning: mildly [[NotSafeForWork NSFW]]) with the more bestial, and less sexualised, ones that replaced them in [[http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/f/f4/Daemonettes_miniatures_%284th_Edition%29.jpg 4th]].
to:
** The 3rd edition of ''Warhammer 40000'' is often seen by fans as being this trope to the editions that came before it, as it abandoned a lot of the game's lightheartedness and pushed the [[CrapsackWorld Crapsack Galaxy]] aspect UpToEleven. In addition, the gothic aspects that had featured in some of the 2nd edition artwork (especially in pieces by John Blanche's pieces) Blanche) were amplified, to the point where they became defining elements of the franchise.
*** Subsequent editions have maintained this aesthetic, although some of the more adult parts have been toned down to make the game a bit more family-friendly. One of the more notorious examples among the fandom is the Daemonettes of Slaanesh: just compare the models that they had during [[http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/5/58/Daemonettes_miniatures.jpg 3rd edition]] (warning: mildly [[NotSafeForWork NSFW]]) with themore bestial, and less sexualised, sexualised ones that replaced them in [[http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/f/f4/Daemonettes_miniatures_%284th_Edition%29.jpg 4th]].
*** Subsequent editions have maintained this aesthetic, although some of the more adult parts have been toned down to make the game a bit more family-friendly. One of the more notorious examples among the fandom is the Daemonettes of Slaanesh: just compare the models that they had during [[http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/5/58/Daemonettes_miniatures.jpg 3rd edition]] (warning: mildly [[NotSafeForWork NSFW]]) with the
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 5 (click to see context) from:
*** Subsequent editions have maintained this aesthetic, although some of the more adult parts have been toned down to make the game a bit more family-friendly. One of the more notorious examples among the fandom is the Daemonettes of Slaanesh - just compare the models that they had during [[http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/5/58/Daemonettes_miniatures.jpg 3rd edition]] (warning: mildly [[NotSafeForWork NSFW]]) with the more bestial -- and less sexualised -- ones that replaced them in [[http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/f/f4/Daemonettes_miniatures_%284th_Edition%29.jpg 4th]].
to:
*** Subsequent editions have maintained this aesthetic, although some of the more adult parts have been toned down to make the game a bit more family-friendly. One of the more notorious examples among the fandom is the Daemonettes of Slaanesh - Slaanesh: just compare the models that they had during [[http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/5/58/Daemonettes_miniatures.jpg 3rd edition]] (warning: mildly [[NotSafeForWork NSFW]]) with the more bestial -- bestial, and less sexualised -- sexualised, ones that replaced them in [[http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/f/f4/Daemonettes_miniatures_%284th_Edition%29.jpg 4th]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 5 (click to see context) from:
*** Subsequent editions have maintained this aesthetic, although some of the more adult parts have been toned down to make the game a bit more family-friendly. One of the more notorious examples among the fandom is the Daemonettes of Slaanesh - just compare the (somewhat [[NotSafeForWork NSFW]]) models that they had during [[http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/5/58/Daemonettes_miniatures.jpg 3rd edition]] with the more bestial (and less sexualised) ones that came out in [[http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/f/f4/Daemonettes_miniatures_%284th_Edition%29.jpg 4th]].
to:
*** Subsequent editions have maintained this aesthetic, although some of the more adult parts have been toned down to make the game a bit more family-friendly. One of the more notorious examples among the fandom is the Daemonettes of Slaanesh - just compare the (somewhat [[NotSafeForWork NSFW]]) models that they had during [[http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/5/58/Daemonettes_miniatures.jpg 3rd edition]] (warning: mildly [[NotSafeForWork NSFW]]) with the more bestial (and -- and less sexualised) sexualised -- ones that came out replaced them in [[http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/f/f4/Daemonettes_miniatures_%284th_Edition%29.jpg 4th]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 5 (click to see context) from:
*** Subsequent editions have maintained this aesthetic, although some of the more adult parts have been toned down to make the game a bit more family-friendly. One of the more notorious examples among the fandom is the Daemonettes of Slaanesh - just compare the models that they had during [[http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/5/58/Daemonettes_miniatures.jpg 3rd edition]] (note: picture is somewhat [[NotSafeForWork NSFW]]) with the somewhat less sexualised ones that replaced them in [[http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/f/f4/Daemonettes_miniatures_%284th_Edition%29.jpg 4th]].
to:
*** Subsequent editions have maintained this aesthetic, although some of the more adult parts have been toned down to make the game a bit more family-friendly. One of the more notorious examples among the fandom is the Daemonettes of Slaanesh - just compare the (somewhat [[NotSafeForWork NSFW]]) models that they had during [[http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/5/58/Daemonettes_miniatures.jpg 3rd edition]] (note: picture is somewhat [[NotSafeForWork NSFW]]) with the somewhat more bestial (and less sexualised sexualised) ones that replaced them came out in [[http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/f/f4/Daemonettes_miniatures_%284th_Edition%29.jpg 4th]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 5 (click to see context) from:
*** Subsequent editions have maintained this aesthetic, although some of the more adult parts have been toned down to make the game a bit more family-friendly. One of the more notorious examples among the fandom is the Daemonettes of Slaanesh - just compare the models that they had during [[http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/5/58/Daemonettes_miniatures.jpg 3rd edition]] (note: picture is somewhat [[NotSafeForWork NSFW]]) with the ones that replaced them in [[http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/f/f4/Daemonettes_miniatures_%284th_Edition%29.jpg 4th]].
to:
*** Subsequent editions have maintained this aesthetic, although some of the more adult parts have been toned down to make the game a bit more family-friendly. One of the more notorious examples among the fandom is the Daemonettes of Slaanesh - just compare the models that they had during [[http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/5/58/Daemonettes_miniatures.jpg 3rd edition]] (note: picture is somewhat [[NotSafeForWork NSFW]]) with the somewhat less sexualised ones that replaced them in [[http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/f/f4/Daemonettes_miniatures_%284th_Edition%29.jpg 4th]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 5 (click to see context) from:
*** Subsequent editions have maintained this aesthetic, although some of the more adult parts have been toned down to make the game a bit more family-friendly. One of the more notorious examples among the fandom is the Daemonettes of Slaanesh: compare the models that they had during [[http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/5/58/Daemonettes_miniatures.jpg 3rd edition]] (note: picture is somewhat [[NotSafeForWork NSFW]]) with the ones that came out in [[http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/f/f4/Daemonettes_miniatures_%284th_Edition%29.jpg 4th]].
to:
*** Subsequent editions have maintained this aesthetic, although some of the more adult parts have been toned down to make the game a bit more family-friendly. One of the more notorious examples among the fandom is the Daemonettes of Slaanesh: Slaanesh - just compare the models that they had during [[http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/5/58/Daemonettes_miniatures.jpg 3rd edition]] (note: picture is somewhat [[NotSafeForWork NSFW]]) with the ones that came out replaced them in [[http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/f/f4/Daemonettes_miniatures_%284th_Edition%29.jpg 4th]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 5 (click to see context) from:
*** Subsequent editions have maintained this aesthetic, although some of the more adult parts have been toned down to make the game a bit more family-friendly. One of the more notorious examples among the fandom is the Daemonettes of Slaanesh: compare their [[http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/5/58/Daemonettes_miniatures.jpg 3rd edition design]] (note: picture is somewhat [[NotSafeForWork NSFW]]) and their [[http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/f/f4/Daemonettes_miniatures_%284th_Edition%29.jpg 4th edition one]] (the 4th edition models are, interestingly, a reversion to their 2nd/early 3rd edition aesthetic).
to:
*** Subsequent editions have maintained this aesthetic, although some of the more adult parts have been toned down to make the game a bit more family-friendly. One of the more notorious examples among the fandom is the Daemonettes of Slaanesh: compare their the models that they had during [[http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/5/58/Daemonettes_miniatures.jpg 3rd edition design]] edition]] (note: picture is somewhat [[NotSafeForWork NSFW]]) and their with the ones that came out in [[http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/f/f4/Daemonettes_miniatures_%284th_Edition%29.jpg 4th edition one]] (the 4th edition models are, interestingly, a reversion to their 2nd/early 3rd edition aesthetic).4th]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 5 (click to see context) from:
*** Subsequent editions have maintained this aesthetic, although some of the more adult parts have been toned down to make the game a bit more family-friendly. One of the more notorious examples among the fandom is the Daemonettes of Slaanesh: compare their [[http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/5/58/Daemonettes_miniatures.jpg 3rd edition models]] (note: picture is somewhat [[NotSafeForWork NSFW]]) with the [[http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/f/f4/Daemonettes_miniatures_%284th_Edition%29.jpg 4th edition plastics]] that replaced them.
to:
*** Subsequent editions have maintained this aesthetic, although some of the more adult parts have been toned down to make the game a bit more family-friendly. One of the more notorious examples among the fandom is the Daemonettes of Slaanesh: compare their [[http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/5/58/Daemonettes_miniatures.jpg 3rd edition models]] design]] (note: picture is somewhat [[NotSafeForWork NSFW]]) with the and their [[http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/f/f4/Daemonettes_miniatures_%284th_Edition%29.jpg 4th edition plastics]] that replaced them.one]] (the 4th edition models are, interestingly, a reversion to their 2nd/early 3rd edition aesthetic).
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 5 (click to see context) from:
*** Subsequent editions have maintained this aesthetic, although some of the more adult parts have been toned down to make the game a bit more family-friendly. One of the more notorious examples among the fandom is the Daemonettes of Slaanesh: compare their [[http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/5/58/Daemonettes_miniatures.jpg 3rd edition models]] (note: picture is somewhat [[NotSafeForWork NSFW]]) with the [[http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/f/f4/Daemonettes_miniatures_%284th_Edition%29.jpg 4th edition replacements]].
to:
*** Subsequent editions have maintained this aesthetic, although some of the more adult parts have been toned down to make the game a bit more family-friendly. One of the more notorious examples among the fandom is the Daemonettes of Slaanesh: compare their [[http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/5/58/Daemonettes_miniatures.jpg 3rd edition models]] (note: picture is somewhat [[NotSafeForWork NSFW]]) with the [[http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/f/f4/Daemonettes_miniatures_%284th_Edition%29.jpg 4th edition replacements]].plastics]] that replaced them.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 5 (click to see context) from:
*** Subsequent editions have maintained this aesthetic, although some of the more adult parts have been toned down to make the game a bit more family-friendly. One of the more notorious aspects of this is the Daemonettes: compare their [[http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/5/58/Daemonettes_miniatures.jpg 3rd edition models]] (note: picture is somewhat [[NotSafeForWork NSFW]]) with the [[http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/f/f4/Daemonettes_miniatures_%284th_Edition%29.jpg 4th edition replacements]].
to:
*** Subsequent editions have maintained this aesthetic, although some of the more adult parts have been toned down to make the game a bit more family-friendly. One of the more notorious aspects of this examples among the fandom is the Daemonettes: Daemonettes of Slaanesh: compare their [[http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/5/58/Daemonettes_miniatures.jpg 3rd edition models]] (note: picture is somewhat [[NotSafeForWork NSFW]]) with the [[http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/f/f4/Daemonettes_miniatures_%284th_Edition%29.jpg 4th edition replacements]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 4 (click to see context) from:
** The 3rd edition of ''Warhammer 40000'' is often seen by fans as being this trope to the editions that came before it, as it abandoned a lot of the game's lightheartedness and pushed the [[CrapsackWorld Crapsack Galaxy]] aspect UpToEleven. In addition, the gothic aspects that had featured in some of the 2nd edition artwork (especially in John Blanche's pieces) were amplified, to the point where they became defining elements of the franchise. Subsequent editions have more-or-less maintained this approach, although some aspects have arguably gone in the [[LighterAndSofter opposite direction]] due to changes in storytelling and art direction over time.
to:
** The 3rd edition of ''Warhammer 40000'' is often seen by fans as being this trope to the editions that came before it, as it abandoned a lot of the game's lightheartedness and pushed the [[CrapsackWorld Crapsack Galaxy]] aspect UpToEleven. In addition, the gothic aspects that had featured in some of the 2nd edition artwork (especially in John Blanche's pieces) were amplified, to the point where they became defining elements of the franchise. franchise.
*** Subsequent editions havemore-or-less maintained this approach, aesthetic, although some of the more adult parts have been toned down to make the game a bit more family-friendly. One of the more notorious aspects have arguably gone in of this is the [[LighterAndSofter opposite direction]] due to changes in storytelling and art direction over time.Daemonettes: compare their [[http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/5/58/Daemonettes_miniatures.jpg 3rd edition models]] (note: picture is somewhat [[NotSafeForWork NSFW]]) with the [[http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/f/f4/Daemonettes_miniatures_%284th_Edition%29.jpg 4th edition replacements]].
*** Subsequent editions have
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 4 (click to see context) from:
** The 3rd edition of ''Warhammer 40000'' is often seen by fans as being this trope to the editions that came before it, as it abandoned a lot of the game's lightheartedness, pushed the [[CrapsackWorld Crapsack Galaxy]] aspect UpToEleven, and amplified the gothic elements that had featured in some of the 2nd edition artwork (to the point where they became core elements of the game's aesthetic). Subsequent editions have more-or-less maintained this approach.
to:
** The 3rd edition of ''Warhammer 40000'' is often seen by fans as being this trope to the editions that came before it, as it abandoned a lot of the game's lightheartedness, lightheartedness and pushed the [[CrapsackWorld Crapsack Galaxy]] aspect UpToEleven, and amplified UpToEleven. In addition, the gothic elements aspects that had featured in some of the 2nd edition artwork (to (especially in John Blanche's pieces) were amplified, to the point where they became core defining elements of the game's aesthetic). franchise. Subsequent editions have more-or-less maintained this approach.approach, although some aspects have arguably gone in the [[LighterAndSofter opposite direction]] due to changes in storytelling and art direction over time.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 4 (click to see context) from:
** The 3rd edition of ''Warhammer 40000'' is often seen by fans as being this trope to the editions that came before it, as it abandoned a lot of the game's lightheartedness, pushed the [[CrapsackWorld Crapsack Galaxy]] aspect UpToEleven, and amplified the gothic elements that had featured in some of the 2nd edition artwork. Subsequent editions have more-or-less maintained this approach.
to:
** The 3rd edition of ''Warhammer 40000'' is often seen by fans as being this trope to the editions that came before it, as it abandoned a lot of the game's lightheartedness, pushed the [[CrapsackWorld Crapsack Galaxy]] aspect UpToEleven, and amplified the gothic elements that had featured in some of the 2nd edition artwork.artwork (to the point where they became core elements of the game's aesthetic). Subsequent editions have more-or-less maintained this approach.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
fixed namespaces
Changed line(s) 15 (click to see context) from:
* ''BlissStage'' is essentially "Manga/{{Bokurano}}: The Roleplaying Game".
to:
* ''BlissStage'' ''TabletopGame/BlissStage'' is essentially "Manga/{{Bokurano}}: The Roleplaying Game".
Changed line(s) 19,22 (click to see context) from:
* ''{{Exalted}}'' is for adult to begin with, but the splat for Abyssals take it up to a whole new level of disturbing. You're a machine of murder, and all of solutions you can come up with involves death and destruction whereas Solars, Lunars, and even the frikkin' Infernals can nurture and build. [[DarknessInducedAudienceApathy Unfortunately it's badly done, and it's one of the more ignored official material.]]
* ''WitchGirls'' was initially a lighthearted RPG parodying girls' shows like WITCH or Winx Club, but after the weird transformation fetishism inherent in the design was gradually revealed, it came out with a "Wicked Edition", supplements included primarily NightmareFuel monsters, a "Zombiegeddon" was scheduled focusing on necromancy-type witches, and the second edition is set to be titled "Book of Shadows".
* ''{{Shadowrun}}'', while already dark just simply doesn't let up with the 4th edition. One example is the Horizon Corporation, the only corporation without atrocities to their name has shown their true colors as they commit some rather heinous actions that features them. As of the 5th edition, they were shamed when they tried to control technomancers (one group they had been known to champion for the rights of) which ended in a brutal massacre.
* ''WitchGirls'' was initially a lighthearted RPG parodying girls' shows like WITCH or Winx Club, but after the weird transformation fetishism inherent in the design was gradually revealed, it came out with a "Wicked Edition", supplements included primarily NightmareFuel monsters, a "Zombiegeddon" was scheduled focusing on necromancy-type witches, and the second edition is set to be titled "Book of Shadows".
* ''{{Shadowrun}}'', while already dark just simply doesn't let up with the 4th edition. One example is the Horizon Corporation, the only corporation without atrocities to their name has shown their true colors as they commit some rather heinous actions that features them. As of the 5th edition, they were shamed when they tried to control technomancers (one group they had been known to champion for the rights of) which ended in a brutal massacre.
to:
* ''{{Exalted}}'' ''TabletopGame/{{Exalted}}'' is for adult to begin with, but the splat for Abyssals take it up to a whole new level of disturbing. You're a machine of murder, and all of solutions you can come up with involves death and destruction whereas Solars, Lunars, and even the frikkin' Infernals can nurture and build. [[DarknessInducedAudienceApathy Unfortunately it's badly done, and it's one of the more ignored official material.]]
*''WitchGirls'' ''TabletopGame/WitchGirls'' was initially a lighthearted RPG parodying girls' shows like WITCH or Winx Club, but after the weird transformation fetishism inherent in the design was gradually revealed, it came out with a "Wicked Edition", supplements included primarily NightmareFuel monsters, a "Zombiegeddon" was scheduled focusing on necromancy-type witches, and the second edition is set to be titled "Book of Shadows".
*''{{Shadowrun}}'', ''TabletopGame/{{Shadowrun}}'', while already dark just simply doesn't let up with the 4th edition. One example is the Horizon Corporation, the only corporation without atrocities to their name has shown their true colors as they commit some rather heinous actions that features them. As of the 5th edition, they were shamed when they tried to control technomancers (one group they had been known to champion for the rights of) which ended in a brutal massacre.
*
*
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 15 (click to see context) from:
* ''BlissStage'' is essentially "{{Bokurano}}: The Roleplaying Game".
to:
* ''BlissStage'' is essentially "{{Bokurano}}: "Manga/{{Bokurano}}: The Roleplaying Game".
