History DarkerAndEdgier / ComicBooks

23rd May '16 12:08:49 PM Blazer
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*** This ultimately is brought in for a {{Deconstruction}}, courtesy of Creator/GeoffJohns and ''DC Universe: Rebirth'' #1, who shows that no one likes a world filled with DarkerAndEdgier ideas, especially when it's the heroes who are hit with this. This is driven home with the revelation that [[spoiler:Dr. Manhattan of ''Watchmen'' is the cause of all of this, having turned the pre-''Flashpoint'' universe into the New 52 universe and seems utterly confused as to why it isn't working.]] It also serves as a TakeThat to use the spoilered title as a manifesto to writing comics and not getting the message it was giving out.

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*** This ultimately is brought in for a {{Deconstruction}}, courtesy of Creator/GeoffJohns and ''DC Universe: Rebirth'' #1, who shows that no one likes a world filled with DarkerAndEdgier ideas, especially when it's the heroes who are hit with this. This is driven home with the revelation that [[spoiler:Dr. Manhattan of ''Watchmen'' is the cause of all of this, having turned the pre-''Flashpoint'' universe into the New 52 universe and seems utterly confused as to why it isn't working.]] It also serves as a TakeThat to those who use the spoilered title as a manifesto to writing comics and not getting the message it was giving out.
23rd May '16 12:08:07 PM Blazer
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*** This ultimately is brought in for a {{Deconstruction}}, courtesy of Creator/GeoffJones and ''DC Universe: Rebirth'' #1, who shows that no one likes a world filled with DarkerAndEdgier ideas, especially when it's the heroes who are hit with this. This is driven home with the revelation that [[spoiler:Dr. Manhattan of ''Watchmen'' is the cause of all of this, having turned the pre-''Flashpoint'' universe into the New 52 universe and seems utterly confused as to why it isn't working.]] It also serves as a TakeThat to use the spoilered title as a manifesto to writing comics and not getting the message it was giving out.

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*** This ultimately is brought in for a {{Deconstruction}}, courtesy of Creator/GeoffJones Creator/GeoffJohns and ''DC Universe: Rebirth'' #1, who shows that no one likes a world filled with DarkerAndEdgier ideas, especially when it's the heroes who are hit with this. This is driven home with the revelation that [[spoiler:Dr. Manhattan of ''Watchmen'' is the cause of all of this, having turned the pre-''Flashpoint'' universe into the New 52 universe and seems utterly confused as to why it isn't working.]] It also serves as a TakeThat to use the spoilered title as a manifesto to writing comics and not getting the message it was giving out.
23rd May '16 12:07:33 PM Blazer
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*** This ultimately is brought in for a {{Deconstruction}}, courtesy of Creator/GeoffJones and ''DC Universe: Rebirth'' #1, who shows that no one likes a world filled with DarkerAndEdgier ideas, especially when it's the heroes who are hit with this. This is driven home with the revelation that [[spoiler:Dr. Manhattan of ''Watchmen'' is the cause of all of this, having turned the pre-''Flashpoint'' universe into the New 52 universe and seems utterly confused as to why it isn't working.]] It also serves as a TakeThat to use the spoilered title as a manifesto to writing comics and not getting the message it was giving out.
19th May '16 2:45:03 AM CaptainTedium
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** Franchise/SpiderMan -- Venom -- Carnage -- Bile (Cannibalistic madman with the proportionate strength of a spider)
** ComicBook/CaptainAmerica -- U.S. Agent -- The Patriot Missile ("Blow all them foreigners to hell and let God sort 'em out!")
** [[ComicBook/TheMightyThor Thor]] -- Thunderstrike -- Godhead (Convinced he is God. Holed up in his compound, waiting for Ragnarok)
** ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} -- Sabertooth -- Clawjaw (Unhousebroken, uncontrollable killing machine with poor bodily hygiene)
** ComicBook/IronMan -- War Machine -- Terror Device (High-tech armored Avenger with two attitudes and PlausibleDeniability)
** [[Comicbook/IncredibleHulk Green Hulk -- Gray Hulk -- New Green Hulk]] -- [[HilariousInHindsight Red Hulk]] (Intelligent rampaging monster with a big gun and razor-sharp claws)

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** Franchise/SpiderMan (Super hero with the proportionate strength of a spider) -- Venom (Obsessed lunatic with the proportionate strength of a spider) -- Carnage (Crazed serial killer with the proportionate strength of a spider) -- Bile (Cannibalistic madman with the proportionate strength of a spider)
** ComicBook/CaptainAmerica (Liberalistic flag-waving symbol of democracy) -- U.S. Agent (Extremist right-wing hard-nosed American) -- The Patriot Missile ("Blow all them foreigners to hell and let God sort 'em out!")
** [[ComicBook/TheMightyThor Thor]] (Norse God of Thunder) -- Thunderstrike (Norse God of Thunder from Brooklyn) -- Godhead (Convinced he is God. Holed up in his compound, waiting for Ragnarok)
** ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} (Savage killing machine with the soul of a Samurai) -- Sabertooth (Uncontrollable, savage killing machine with the attitude of a psychopath) -- Clawjaw (Unhousebroken, uncontrollable killing machine with poor bodily hygiene)
** ComicBook/IronMan (High-tech armored Avenger) -- War Machine (High-tech armored Avenger with an attitude) -- Terror Device (High-tech armored Avenger with two attitudes and PlausibleDeniability)
** [[Comicbook/IncredibleHulk Green Hulk Hulk]] (Mindless rampaging monster) -- Gray Hulk (Intelligent rampaging monster) -- New Green Hulk]] Hulk (Intelligent rampaging monster with a big gun) -- [[HilariousInHindsight Red Hulk]] (Intelligent rampaging monster with a big gun and razor-sharp claws)
16th May '16 2:29:12 AM KlawKalash
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* ''ComicBook/SupremePower'' is a darker and edgier reimagining of the original ''ComicBook/SquadronSupreme''.
* ''ComicBook/SupermanEarthOne'' was explicitly advertised as being darker, sexier, and moodier, and many standard elements of Superman's story are given a darker spin -- for example, Jonathan and Martha are forced to keep Kal-El a secret after government agents secretly impound his spaceship in a secret base.



* ''ComicBook/SupremePower'' is a darker and edgier reimagining of the original ''ComicBook/SquadronSupreme''.



* ''ComicBook/SupermanEarthOne'' was explicitly advertised as being darker, sexier, and moodier, and many standard elements of Superman's story are given a darker spin -- for example, Jonathan and Martha are forced to keep Kal-El a secret after government agents secretly impound his spaceship in a secret base.
16th May '16 2:24:17 AM KlawKalash
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* [[ComicBook/NewMutants New X-Men: Academy X]]. After ''ComicBook/HouseOfM'', the title was hit by Darker and Edgier ''hard'', but the change was especially marked in contrast with the first half of the series. Under Weir and DeFilippis, the book was fairly light-hearted fluff that focused on relationship drama. When Kyle and Yost took over, dozens of students were immediately blown up, and everyone else was left traumatized by their failed rescue attempts. Then a main character was shot in the head and killed. And ''another'' main character betrayed the team, was mutilated, and died. They were replaced by a former assassin TykeBomb. Succeeding plotlines saw the entire team sent to HELL, one of them tortured and spending a lot of time crying herself to sleep, and so forth and so forth. In fact, most of Kyle and Yost's work falls under this trope. See also: X-Force, mentioned above.

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* [[ComicBook/NewMutants New X-Men: Academy X]]. After ''ComicBook/HouseOfM'', the title was hit by Darker and Edgier ''hard'', but the change was especially marked in contrast with the first half of the series. Under Weir and DeFilippis, [=DeFilippis=], the book was fairly light-hearted fluff that focused on relationship drama. When Kyle and Yost took over, dozens of students were immediately blown up, and everyone else was left traumatized by their failed rescue attempts. Then a main character was shot in the head and killed. And ''another'' main character betrayed the team, was mutilated, and died. They were replaced by a former assassin TykeBomb. Succeeding plotlines saw the entire team sent to HELL, one of them tortured and spending a lot of time crying herself to sleep, and so forth and so forth. In fact, most of Kyle and Yost's work falls under this trope. See also: X-Force, mentioned above.
16th May '16 2:22:56 AM KlawKalash
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*** A literal version shows in ''Franchise/TeenTitans'', with the character Solstice. Prior to the New 52, she was a cheerful girl [[LightEmUp light powers]]. Afterwards, she had a permanently inhuman appearance and [[CastingAShadow shadow powers]]. In addition, [[spoiler:Kid Flash has become a murderous rebel leader from the future, Raven is secretly working for her demon father, Wonder Girl now gets her powers from an ArtifactOfDoom, and Superboy is the clone of Superman and Lois Lane's evil son from the future]].

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*** A literal version shows in ''Franchise/TeenTitans'', with the character Solstice. Prior to the New 52, she was a cheerful girl with [[LightEmUp light powers]]. Afterwards, she had a permanently inhuman appearance and [[CastingAShadow shadow powers]]. In addition, [[spoiler:Kid Flash has become a murderous rebel leader from the future, Raven is secretly working for her demon father, Wonder Girl now gets her powers from an ArtifactOfDoom, and Superboy is the clone of Superman and Lois Lane's evil son from the future]].
16th May '16 2:19:53 AM KlawKalash
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* Said Ultimate Universe spread to the 616-universe, as far as evil ComicBook/IronMan and Reed Richards and Comicbook/{{Cyclops}} expelling Xavier from the ComicBook/XMen (even though Cyclops utterly bombed as Top Guy at the school as far as Xavier saving the X-Men's asses during the Messiah Complex X-Over) and starting his own murder squad, a move even ''ComicBook/{{Wolverine}}'' found distasteful and only agreed to lead to try and keep Scott from turning Wolfsbane, ComicBook/{{X 23}}, and Warpath into soulless murderers).

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* Said Ultimate Universe spread to the 616-universe, as far as evil ComicBook/IronMan and Reed Richards and Comicbook/{{Cyclops}} expelling Xavier from the ComicBook/XMen (even though Cyclops utterly bombed as Top Guy at the school as far as Xavier saving the X-Men's asses during the Messiah Complex X-Over) and starting his own murder squad, a move even ''ComicBook/{{Wolverine}}'' found distasteful and only agreed to lead to try and keep Scott from turning Wolfsbane, ComicBook/{{X 23}}, and Warpath into soulless murderers).murderers.
11th May '16 3:19:45 AM LondonKdS
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* This is parodied in the "Comic Book Carnage" issue of ''ComicBook/HackSlash'', set at a comic fan convention. A new comics company is depicted reviving an old comic called ''Wunderkind'' (a blatant CaptainErsatz for ''[[ComicBook/{{Shazam}} Captain Marvel]]'') in a ridiculously over-the-top grimdark manner, whereupon a pair of {{Loony Fan}}s are so outraged that they start murdering the comic's creators ([[AsHimself who are real-world writers and artists]] who were pals of the comic's writer Tim Seeley and didn't mind getting bloodily slaughtered on paper).
31st Mar '16 10:30:47 PM Pichu-kun
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* ''ComicBook/SonicTheComic'' is this to the games at the time it was being produced, and ''Webcomic/SonicTheComicOnline'' is this to the source comic. The most well-known is that Super Sonic is a SuperpoweredEvilSide who eventually splits up from Sonic and becomes basically a physical god. Sonic once believes he killed his friends and falls into a HeroicBSOD.
* ''ComicBook/ArchieComicsSonicTheHedgehog'' started out as a GagSeries similar to WesternAnimation/AdventuresOfSonicTheHedgehog. Around issue 20 or so, it shifted to a more serious, interconnected tone similar to WesternAnimation/SonicSatAM. The Endgame arc (Where Sonic becomes a fugitive after being accused of killing Princess Sally, and Robotnik is KilledOffForReal) is where it dove off the deep end, and established itself as one of the darkest incarnations of Sonic, dealing with themes such as abusive relationships, birth out of wedlock, drugs, genocide, and bigotry. It stayed that way for 10 years or so, before Ian Flynn took over as writer and returned the comic to a lighter tone, though still not ''as'' light as the recent games. Coincidentally, the darker period from issue 50 to 160 is widely regarded as the series' DorkAge, providing an example of TropesAreNotGood.

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* ''ComicBook/SonicTheComic'' is this to the games at the time it was being produced, and ''Webcomic/SonicTheComicOnline'' is this to the source comic. The most well-known aspect is that Super Sonic is a SuperpoweredEvilSide who eventually splits up from Sonic and becomes basically a physical god. Sonic once believes believed he killed his friends and falls fell into a HeroicBSOD.
* ''ComicBook/ArchieComicsSonicTheHedgehog'' ''ComicBook/ArchieComicsSonicTheHedgehog'':
** The comic
started out as a GagSeries similar to WesternAnimation/AdventuresOfSonicTheHedgehog. ''WesternAnimation/AdventuresOfSonicTheHedgehog''. Around issue 20 or so, it shifted to a more serious, interconnected tone similar to WesternAnimation/SonicSatAM. ''WesternAnimation/SonicSatAM''. The Endgame arc (Where (where Sonic becomes a fugitive after being accused of killing Princess Sally, and Robotnik is KilledOffForReal) is where it dove off the deep end, and established itself as one of the darkest incarnations of Sonic, dealing with themes such as abusive relationships, birth out of wedlock, drugs, genocide, and bigotry. It stayed that way for 10 years or so, before Ian Flynn took over as writer and returned the comic to a lighter tone, though still not ''as'' light as the recent games. Coincidentally, the darker period from issue 50 to 160 is widely regarded as the series' DorkAge, providing an example of TropesAreNotGood.






* Franchise/ArchieComics, surprisingly enough, has done this several times:

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* Franchise/ArchieComics, ''Franchise/ArchieComics'', surprisingly enough, has done this several times:



** ''ComicBook/AfterlifeWithArchie'' seems like a funny concept. Archie meets ZombieApocalypse... The series is anything but funny. You know something's up when there are [[Franchise/CthulhuMythos Cthulhu]] references in an Archie comic. It's drawn in a dark realistic style and the first issue has Hotdog being hit by a car and dying. Jughead gets Sabrina to bring him back but he's brought back as a zombie. He bites Jughead and...

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** ''ComicBook/AfterlifeWithArchie'' seems sounds like a funny concept. concept: Archie meets the ZombieApocalypse... The series is anything but funny. You know something's up when there are [[Franchise/CthulhuMythos Cthulhu]] references in an Archie comic. It's drawn in a dark realistic style and the first issue has Hotdog being hit by a car and dying. Jughead gets Sabrina to bring him back but he's brought back as a zombie. He bites Jughead and...



** There's a new comic called ''ComicBook/ChillingAdventuresOfSabrina''. It's in a similar realistic art style as ''Afterlife with Archie'' and has the same writer. It emphasises the horror aspect of Sabrina.

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** There's a new comic called ''ComicBook/ChillingAdventuresOfSabrina''. It's in a similar realistic art style as ''Afterlife with Archie'' and has the same writer. It emphasises the horror aspect of Sabrina.Sabrina heavily.



* A lot of Disney comics are often this. ''Disney/TheLittleMermaid'' and ''Disney/TheLionKing'' have quite a few dark examples.

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* A lot of Disney comics are often this. ''Disney/TheLittleMermaid'' and ''Disney/TheLionKing'' have quite a few dark examples.examples:



* The IDW ''ComicBook/JemAndTheHolograms'' comics, as no one actually gets hurt in [[WesternAnimation/{{Jem}} the cartoon]]; They nearly died dozens of times but always escape without a scratch in the cartoon. The comics are aimed at a slightly older audience than the cartoons were, so they get away with light curses like "hell" and characters being shown injured. [[spoiler:Clash nearly kills Jem in an early issue but Aja pushes her out of the way. Aja ends up with cuts and bruises, and Rio notices Jerrica is bleeding as well despite supposedly not even being near her sisters at the time. Later Pizzazz gets into a violent car crash.]]

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* ''ComicBook/JemAndTheHolograms'':
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The IDW ''ComicBook/JemAndTheHolograms'' comics, as no one actually gets hurt in comics is this to the [[WesternAnimation/{{Jem}} cartoon]]. In the cartoon]]; They nearly cartoon the main characters ''nearly'' died dozens of times but always escape without a scratch in the cartoon.scratch. The comics are aimed at a slightly older audience than the cartoons were, so they get away with light curses like "hell" and characters being shown injured. [[spoiler:Clash [[spoiler:Clash]] nearly kills Jem in an early issue but Aja [[spoiler:Aja]] pushes her out of the way. Aja [[spoiler:Aja]] ends up with cuts and bruises, and Rio notices Jerrica is bleeding as well despite supposedly not even being near her sisters at the time. Later does Jerrica. A few issues later Pizzazz gets [[spoiler:gets into a violent car crash.]]crash]] which leaves her unable to be in her band for a while.
** Played comedically in the second arc. In the "Dark Jem" arc Jerrica and her sisters get brainwashed by Synergy. They start dressing in darker toned outfits, start wearing black makeup, begin talking in monotone, act dismissive about everything, and generally act like stereotypical goths. Their new moody attitudes clash heavily with their typical, sweet and energetic ones.
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