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7th May '13 4:49:08 PM tatiana

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** In the series proper, we had the Water 7 arc, easily the darkest arc in the series [[spoiler: the Merry Go is deemed unfixable and can't sail any further, Usopp leaves the crew when the news is broken to him leading to a fight with Luffy, Robin disappears and later aids in framing the Straw Hats (though not without good reason) and the crew is nearly killed upon meeting the [=CP9=]. Oh and of course Robin's flashback the followig arc]]. Likewise the last bits of the first half have been leaning toward this the such as Ace finally finding Blackbeard [[spoiler: and losing]] the introduction of World Nobles, [[spoiler: the crew getting beaten by a Admiral and getting separated from each other. Luffy finding out about Ace's execution and breaking into Impel Down to rescue him, not only failing but nearly dying in the process. Then of course the whole war that followed to rescue Ace that ultimately ended with Ace ''dying'', Whitebeard, one of the most powerful BigGood pirates on the planet being killed by Blackbeard and having his earthquake power stolen. Luffy actually doubting his dreams and a flashback that showed the (supposed) death of a close friend of theirs.]] Granted Luffy recovers and the crew reunite but even then dark times are on the horizon as [[spoiler: Akainu, the Admiral who killed Ace, is now head of the marines.]] So...yeah.

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** In the series proper, we had the Water 7 arc, easily the darkest arc in the series [[spoiler: the Merry Go is deemed unfixable and can't sail any further, Usopp leaves the crew when the news is broken to him leading to a fight with Luffy, Robin disappears and later aids in framing the Straw Hats (though not without good reason) and the crew is nearly killed upon meeting the [=CP9=]. Oh and of course Robin's flashback the followig arc]]. Likewise the last bits of the first half have been leaning toward this the such as Ace finally finding Blackbeard [[spoiler: and losing]] the introduction of World Nobles, [[spoiler: the crew getting beaten by a Admiral and getting separated from each other. Luffy finding out about Ace's execution and breaking into Impel Down to rescue him, not only failing but nearly dying in the process. Then of course the whole war that followed to rescue Ace that ultimately ended with Ace ''dying'', Whitebeard, one of the most powerful BigGood pirates on the planet being killed by Blackbeard and having his earthquake power stolen. Luffy actually doubting his dreams and a flashback that showed the ([[NeverFoundTheBody supposed]]) death of a close friend of theirs.]] Granted Luffy recovers and the crew reunite but even then dark times are on the horizon as [[spoiler: Akainu, the Admiral who killed Ace, is now head of the marines.]] So...yeah.

6th May '13 11:06:53 PM jjjj

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29th Apr '13 11:22:05 AM ScoutsGirlfriend

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* ''[[Manga/FullmetalAlchemist Fullmetal Alchemist's]]'' [[Anime/FullmetalAlchemist first 2003 anime adaptation]] was this compared to the original manga. A lot of characters [[DeathByAdaptation die who lived in the manga]], there are fewer comedic MoodWhiplash moments, people suffer from {{Angst}} a whole lot more, the way Homunculi are created is a much darker theme ([[spoiler: they were human transmutations that CameBackWrong, instead of just created from [[MacGuffin Philosipher Stones]]]]), the overall theme is considerably more [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVsCynicism cynical]], and the ending is far more bittersweet (though still optimistic). The people of Lior get hit the hardest by it, ''especially'' Rose. Two words: [[spoiler:[[ChildByRape rape baby]]]].
** Ironically the [[Manga/FullmetalAlchemist manga]] has a lot of dark elements that weren't brought over. The Ishvalan War in the anime was a short CurbStompBattle, while in the manga it's full on WarIsHell and a number of chapters are devoted showing how horrible it was. Also the fact there's ''two'' (although the second didn't take) counts of [[spoiler: national genocide]] and unlike the Ishval war, [[spoiler: [[KillEmAll The survivers could be counted on, at the most, both hands]]]]. The anime may be more cynical overall, but the manga has far more (near-)deaths.
** That was probably due to the war not being shown yet in the manga when the anime was being made.

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* ''Manga/FullMetalAlchemist'''s [[Anime/FullMetalAlchemist first 2003 anime adaptation]] was this compared to the original manga. A lot of characters [[DeathByAdaptation die who lived in the manga]], there are fewer comedic MoodWhiplash moments, people suffer from {{Angst}} a whole lot more, the way Homunculi are created is a much darker theme ([[spoiler: they were human transmutations that CameBackWrong, instead of just created from [[MacGuffin Philosipher Stones]]]]), the overall theme is considerably more [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVsCynicism cynical]], and the ending is far more bittersweet (though still optimistic). The people of Lior get hit the hardest by it, ''especially'' Rose. Two words: [[spoiler:[[ChildByRape rape baby]]]].
** Ironically, the manga has a lot of dark elements that weren't brought over. The Ishvalan War in the anime was a short CurbStompBattle, while in the manga it's full on WarIsHell and a number of chapters are devoted showing how horrible it was. Also the fact there's ''two'' (although the second didn't take) counts of [[spoiler: national genocide]] and unlike the Ishval war, [[spoiler: [[KillEmAll The survivers could be counted on, at the most, both hands]]]]. The anime may be more cynical overall, but the manga has far more (near-)deaths, most likely because the war was not shown yet in the manga when the anime was being made.

14th Apr '13 12:04:45 PM nombretomado

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** ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundam00 Gundam 00]]'' took this closer to home by placing the series in the Anno Domoni timeline where most of the world's current problems aren't just still around, they're exacerbated, and it's going to take a lot of blood to get any work done on them at all. This also makes it one of the darkest alternate universe ''{{Gundam}}'', up next to SEED.
*** [[spoiler: Until the movie suddenly snapped everything into hope and rainbows, giving us one of the few unequivocally happy endings in {{Gundam}}. It even has world peace.]]
** ''GundamAge'' unveiled its true colors from episode 14 onwards. Similar to [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica Madoka]], [[ArtStyleDissonance don't let the series' kiddy art designs fool you.]] While initially masquerading as a children's ''Gundam'' series for the first 13 episodes, [[spoiler:the LoveInterest gets brutally killed in episode 14 and TheHero consequentially takes the dark descent into becoming a genocidal KnightTemplar [[HeWhoFightsMonsters Who Fights Monsters]]. Oh, and the UE are HumanAllAlong. And those hoping for a bloodless final episode was hopelessly crushed at it ends up in a Tomino Kill'em all for BOTH sides.]] Add the almost-complete absence of comic relief and the series being set in a CrapsackWorld that would feel right at home in the Universal Century or Cosmic Era, and you got a series that somehow manages to get up there with ''SEED'' and first part of ''00'' as the darkest AU series yet.
** Where the ''{{Gundam}}'' series is concerned, it's sometimes darker and edgier in their side stories, regardless of the calendar. Comic relief aside, the overall progression of arcs, foreknowledge, the ending and themes show that the likes of ''Anime/{{Mobile Suit Gundam 0080 War In The Pocket}}'' and ''C.E. 73 Stargazer'' to be less sunshiny than their respective calendars' main series.
** To a point ''{{Gundam}}'' franchise in general was darker and edgier in comparison to the other mecha anime around, with the themes, the (generally) GreyAndGrayMorality, the various War tropes present and the franchise was started by a man known as "KillEmAll".

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** ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundam00 Gundam 00]]'' took this closer to home by placing the series in the Anno Domoni timeline where most of the world's current problems aren't just still around, they're exacerbated, and it's going to take a lot of blood to get any work done on them at all. This also makes it one of the darkest alternate universe ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'', up next to SEED.
*** [[spoiler: Until the movie suddenly snapped everything into hope and rainbows, giving us one of the few unequivocally happy endings in Franchise/{{Gundam}}. It even has world peace.]]
** ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamAge Gundam AGE]]'' unveiled its true colors from episode 14 onwards. Similar to [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica Madoka]], [[ArtStyleDissonance don't let the series' kiddy art designs fool you.]] While initially masquerading as a children's ''Gundam'' series for the first 13 episodes, [[spoiler:the LoveInterest gets brutally killed in episode 14 and TheHero consequentially takes the dark descent into becoming a genocidal KnightTemplar [[HeWhoFightsMonsters Who Fights Monsters]]. Oh, and the UE are HumanAllAlong. And those hoping for a bloodless final episode was hopelessly crushed at it ends up in a Tomino Kill'em all for BOTH sides.]] Add the almost-complete absence of comic relief and the series being set in a CrapsackWorld that would feel right at home in the Universal Century or Cosmic Era, and you got a series that somehow manages to get up there with ''SEED'' and first part of ''00'' as the darkest AU series yet.
** Where the ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'' series is concerned, it's sometimes darker and edgier in their side stories, regardless of the calendar. Comic relief aside, the overall progression of arcs, foreknowledge, the ending and themes show that the likes of ''Anime/{{Mobile Suit Gundam 0080 War In The Pocket}}'' and ''C.E. 73 Stargazer'' to be less sunshiny than their respective calendars' main series.
** To a point ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'' franchise in general was darker and edgier in comparison to the other mecha anime around, with the themes, the (generally) GreyAndGrayMorality, the various War tropes present and the franchise was started by a man known as "KillEmAll".

5th Apr '13 11:36:28 PM RavenWilder

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This trope is about being darker then previous installments/versions of the story, NOT darker than the medium/genre's usual fare

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21st Mar '13 9:34:42 PM MetalShadowX

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25th Feb '13 7:47:51 AM Orihime

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25th Feb '13 7:46:37 AM Orihime

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17th Feb '13 5:51:59 PM Orihime

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* In ''Manga/{{Bleach}}'', the Thousand Year Blood War has made Bleach far more grim and dark than any other manga in Shounen Jump. Want an example? [[spoiler: The "NOBODY DIES IN BLEACH" meme is brutally smashed as ''several'' well-loved Shinigamis die. Including [[BattleButler Sasakibe]] and '''[[BigGood Yamamoto]]''' of all people. The well-loved {{Badass}} Byakuya and Kenpachi are defeated (and Byakuya's near-death is ''horrifying''). Renji AND Rukia get badly injured and taken outta the fight. Kira and others are in an AmbiguousSituation and most likely dead too, while several captains get defeated too. Oh, and in case you're still not aware... Soul Society '''loses'''. And not even '''Ichigo''' can save them this time.]]
* ''MawaruPenguindrum'', The series starts off like a comedy where three siblings have to deal with invisible penguins and get a girl's diary, but [[spoiler: Ringo eventually tries to rape Tabuki, Kanba becomes a terrorist, and Yuri tries to rape Ringo.]] At least she changed her mind.

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* In ''Manga/{{Bleach}}'', the Thousand Year Blood War has made Bleach far more grim and dark than any other current manga in Shounen Jump. Want an example? [[spoiler: The "NOBODY DIES IN BLEACH" meme is brutally smashed as ''several'' well-loved Shinigamis die. Including [[BattleButler Sasakibe]] and '''[[BigGood Yamamoto]]''' of all people. The well-loved {{Badass}} Byakuya and Kenpachi are defeated (and Byakuya's near-death is ''horrifying''). Renji AND Rukia get badly injured and taken outta the fight. Kira and others are in an AmbiguousSituation and most likely dead too, while several captains get defeated too. Oh, and in case you're still not aware... Soul Society '''loses'''. And not even '''Ichigo''' can save them this time.]]
* ''MawaruPenguindrum'' eries starts off like a comedy where three siblings have to deal with invisible penguins and get a girl's diary, but [[spoiler: Ringo eventually tries to rape Tabuki, Kanba becomes a terrorist to save Himari, Yuri tries to rape Ringo, Shouma can't cope with how his and Kanba's parents seemingly caused the death of Ringo's sister, etc..]] At least she changed her mind.

23rd Jan '13 12:12:20 PM ChaoticNovelist

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* ''{{Naruto}} Shippuden/Part II'' has been increasingly darker than the [[{{Naruto}} original series]]. The main character, [[TheDeterminator Naruto]] [[spoiler:loses the closest thing he has to a father, [[TheObiWan Jiraiya]], his village is nuked, his mother figure [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld Tsunade]] is knocked into a coma, he is actually put into a HannibalLecture by [[WellIntentionedExtremist Pain]] which he couldn't retort to...even though he managed to get Pain to bring everyone back to life that he killed that day, the Village is still a [[DoomedHomeTown crater]], Tsunade is still in a coma, and Danzo nearly became Hokage. THEN we get his largest player punches in regards to Sasuke, his former rival and best friend who had joined Akatsuki and attacked Killer Bee, and then attacked the Kage Summit. Learning how far his best friend had fallen caused him to actually have a HeroicBSOD and fall into an AngstComa]]. Shippuden/II has more death, destruction, horrors, and Orochimaru-and later [[spoiler:[[BigBad Obito]]]] creepiness to show it's much darker and edgier than Part I.
* ''Anime/DigimonTamers'' is an example of this trope done very well.

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* ''{{Naruto}} Shippuden/Part II'' has been increasingly darker than the [[{{Naruto}} original series]]. The main character, Naruto, [[spoiler:loses the closest thing he has to a father, [[TheObiWan Jiraiya]], his village is nuked, his mother figure Tsunade is knocked into a coma, he is put into a BreakingSpeech by Pain which he couldn't retort to...even though he managed to get Pain to bring everyone back to life that he killed that day, the Village is still a [[DoomedHomeTown crater]], Tsunade is still in a coma, and Danzo nearly became Hokage. THEN we get to Sasuke, his former rival and best friend who had joined Akatsuki and attacked Killer Bee, and then attacked the Kage Summit. Learning how far his best friend had fallen caused him to have a HeroicBSOD and fall into an AngstComa]]. Shippuden/II has more death, destruction, horrors, and Orochimaru-and later [[spoiler:[[BigBad Obito]]]] creepiness to show it's much darker and edgier than Part I.
* ''Anime/DigimonTamers'' has ''premanent'' digimon death, one character emotionally tramatized by such and an EldritchAbomination.

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