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* Darth Vader doesn't have the planet Alderaan [[EarthShatteringKaboom destroyed]] in [[Film/ANewHope the original]] ''Franchise/StarWars''--Grand Moff Tarkin is the one who orders it. Vader just watches it happen from the bridge of the Death Star. Relatedly: contrary to popular belief, ''Tarkin'' is the [[BigBad primary antagonist]] of the original film, not Vader; Tarkin outranks Vader, who was originally portrayed as Tarkin's [[TheBrute brutish enforcer]] before [[Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack the]] [[Film/ReturnOfTheJedi sequels]] retroactively established Vader as the Emperor's apprentice and right-hand man.[[note]] A relatively common HandWave among fans is that Tarkin is the commander of the Death Star, and Vader chooses to respect his authority while he's aboard the Death Star as an invited guest--explaining why he takes orders from him.[[/note]]

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* When criticizing how Vader seems to be EasilyForgiven after his redemption, many people like to point out that Vader blew up Leia's home planet in front of her. However, Darth Vader doesn't have the planet Alderaan [[EarthShatteringKaboom destroyed]] in [[Film/ANewHope the original]] ''Franchise/StarWars''--Grand Moff Tarkin is the one who orders it. Vader just watches it happen from the bridge of the Death Star. Relatedly: contrary to popular belief, ''Tarkin'' is the [[BigBad primary antagonist]] of the original film, not Vader; Tarkin outranks Vader, who was originally portrayed as Tarkin's [[TheBrute brutish enforcer]] before [[Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack the]] [[Film/ReturnOfTheJedi sequels]] retroactively established Vader as the Emperor's apprentice and right-hand man.[[note]] A relatively common HandWave among fans is that Tarkin is the commander of the Death Star, and Vader chooses to respect his authority while he's aboard the Death Star as an invited guest--explaining why he takes orders from him.[[/note]]
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Too many people have been claiming Watto’s accent isn’t Italian. I’m sick of it.

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* A lot of people seem to think that Watto's accent is "Israeli" or "Yiddish". While it is true that [[SpaceJews Watto does have many traits that resemble Jewish stereotypes]], his accent is not one of them. Watto's voice actor has confirmed that his accent is supposed to be ''Italian'', and if one was to actually listen closely to his accent, they'd find that to be the case ("Mind tricks don't-a work on-a me!").
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* Some fans claim that, if Anakin had never been trained by the Jedi and fallen to the Dark Side, none of the conflicts in the saga (Clone Wars, the destruction of the Jedi and the rise of the Empire) would have happened. However, this ignores the fact Palpatine was already pulling XanatosGambit to become Chancellor when Anakin was discovered and non-movie works show that the Clone Wars were already in preparation before Palpatine became Chancellor. The most that Anakin does for the rise of the Empire is to inform the Jedi that Palpatine is a Sith (with Jedi already considering overthrowing him if he continues to amass power) and the lead attack on the Jedi Temple (where he seems to mostly focus on younglings while clones kill most of the already trained Jedi). So for all the horrible things he did as Vader, claiming that the Jedi or the Republic wouldn't have fallen without Anakin is incorrect.

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* Some fans claim that, if Anakin had never been trained by the Jedi and fallen to the Dark Side, none of the conflicts in the saga (Clone (the Clone Wars, the destruction of the Jedi Jedi, and the rise of the Empire) would have happened. However, this ignores the fact Palpatine was already pulling a XanatosGambit to become Chancellor when around the time Anakin was discovered and non-movie works show that the Clone Wars were already in preparation before Palpatine even became Chancellor. The most that Anakin does for the rise of the Empire is to inform the Jedi that Palpatine is a Sith (with many Jedi already considering overthrowing him if he continues to amass power) and the then lead the attack on the Jedi Temple (where he seems to mostly focus on younglings while clones kill most of the already trained Jedi). So for all the horrible things he did as Vader, claiming that the Jedi or the Republic wouldn't have fallen without Anakin is incorrect.
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The pairing of the Episode IV buns with the Episode VI bikini is something that I've only seen with Halloween costumes. Cosplayers typically know better.


* Everybody knows that Leia's hairstyle is two woven "donuts" on the side of her head. In actuality, she only had this hairstyle in ''A New Hope'' (and for her brief cameo in ''Rogue One''). Although she never wears this hairstyle in any of the other ''Star Wars'' movies, her original hairstyle remains so iconic that most people who aren't hardcore ''Star Wars'' fans assume that she always has it. For instance, it's common for cosplayers to pair her hairstyle from ''A New Hope'' with the infamous gold bikini she wore in ''Return of the Jedi'', even though her hair was styled differently in that film and outfit.

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* Everybody knows that Leia's hairstyle is two woven "donuts" on the side of her head. In actuality, she only had this hairstyle in ''A New Hope'' (and for her brief cameo in ''Rogue One''). Although she never wears this hairstyle in any of the other ''Star Wars'' movies, her original hairstyle remains so iconic that most people who aren't hardcore ''Star Wars'' fans assume that she always has it. For instance, it's common for cosplayers people who dress up as Leia for Halloween to pair her hairstyle from ''A New Hope'' with the infamous gold bikini she wore in ''Return of the Jedi'', even though her hair was styled differently in that film and outfit.
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* Because of all the jokes about Lando Calrissian being "the only black man in the Galaxy", it's something of a common misconception that Creator/BillyDeeWilliams is [[TokenMinority the only]] actor of color who ever appears in the Original Trilogy. While Lando is the only non-white '''major character''' in the first three movies, and definitely the only one to get a name stated in the movie, there ''are'' a few other non-white characters in incidental roles. The Rebel forces at [[Film/ReturnOfTheJedi the Battle of Endor]] include Lieutenant Telsij (second-in-command of Grey Squadron) and Grizz Frix ("Red Five"), played by a Japanese-American actor and an African-American actor, respectively. There are also two black extras in the [[Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack Cloud City]] scenes; one plays one of Lando's guards who greets the heroes at the landing platform, and the other plays a panicked citizen fleeing as the Stormtroopers arrive. [[note]] The latter character became something of an EnsembleDarkhorse after eagle-eyed fans noticed that [[FreezeFrameBonus he's apparently carrying an ice cream maker while running away]].[[/note]] For what it's worth, Oola the Twi'lek dancer is also played by black actress Femi Taylor, though her character obviously isn't human and it's nearly impossible to tell with her heavy green makeup. Lyn Me, another Twi'lek, portrayed by East Asian actress Dalyn Chew, also appears in the special edition of ''Return of the Jedi''.

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* Because of all the jokes about Lando Calrissian being "the only black man in the Galaxy", it's something of a common misconception that Creator/BillyDeeWilliams is [[TokenMinority the only]] actor of color who ever appears in the Original Trilogy. While Lando is the only non-white '''major character''' in the first three movies, and definitely the only one to get a name stated in the movie, there ''are'' a few other non-white characters in incidental roles. The Rebel forces at [[Film/ReturnOfTheJedi the Battle of Endor]] include Lieutenant Telsij (second-in-command of Grey Squadron) and Grizz Frix ("Red Five"), played by a Japanese-American actor and an African-American actor, respectively. There are also two black extras in the [[Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack Cloud City]] scenes; one plays one of Lando's guards who greets the heroes at the landing platform, and the other plays a panicked citizen fleeing as the Stormtroopers arrive. [[note]] The latter character became something of an EnsembleDarkhorse after eagle-eyed fans noticed that [[FreezeFrameBonus he's apparently carrying an ice cream maker while running away]].[[/note]] For what it's worth, Oola the Twi'lek dancer is also played by black actress Femi Taylor, though her character obviously isn't human and it's nearly impossible to tell with her heavy green makeup. Lyn Me, another Twi'lek, portrayed by East Asian actress Dalyn Chew, also appears in the special edition of ''Return of the Jedi''.Jedi'', as does Rystáll Sant, who was played by Afro-Hispanic dancer Mercedes Ngoh.
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* The popular theory that Darth Vader's name is a bit of BilingualBonus {{foreshadowing}} [[note]] "Vader" is the Dutch word for "Father"[[/note]] has been pretty thoroughly debunked, but it's still cited as fact by many fans. For one thing, the Dutch word "vader" is pronounced more like "FAH-der" than "VAY-der"; for another, WordOfGod has indicated that Vader wasn't supposed to be Luke's father when the character was first conceived, while the decision to make them related was made several drafts into ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'', and released early versions of the script have confirmed this. It's more likely that his name is supposed to evoke the word "invader" (as in "Space Invader"), as a nod to the old sci-fi serials that inspired Lucas. There was also a Gary Vader who graduated from Lucas' high school a year before him, and Lucas has been known to [[{{Tuckerization}} name characters and worldbuilding elements after people and places from his own life]].

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* The popular theory that Darth Vader's name is a bit of BilingualBonus {{foreshadowing}} [[note]] "Vader" is the Dutch word for "Father"[[/note]] has been pretty thoroughly debunked, but it's still cited as fact by many fans. For one thing, the Dutch word "vader" is pronounced more like "FAH-der" than "VAY-der"; for another, WordOfGod has indicated that Vader wasn't supposed to be Luke's father when the character was first conceived, while the decision to make them related was made several drafts into ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'', and released early versions of the script have confirmed this.this, though did claim [[https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-news/george-lucas-and-the-cult-of-darth-vader-247142/ in a 2005 interview]] that the name was based on a variation of "Dark Father" which likely helped spread this one. It's more likely that his name is supposed to evoke the word "invader" (as in "Space Invader"), as a nod to the old sci-fi serials that inspired Lucas. There was also a Gary Vader who graduated from Lucas' high school a year before him, and Lucas has been known to [[{{Tuckerization}} name characters and worldbuilding elements after people and places from his own life]].
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* There is a persistent belief among fans that Lucas broke a Director's Guild of America rule by not including opening credits for any of the films (believing that they would disrupt the excitement of the openings), sometimes including the fanciful detail that Lucas was the first director of note to forego the orthodoxy of having opening credits in his film. The common story is that the DGA required that all movies include an opening credits sequence, but that they did not consider Lucas big enough to bother going after for breaking the rule, as ''Star Wars'' [[AndYouThoughtItWouldFail was not expected to be anything more than an unremarkable B-movie]], so they let it slide... until a then-much-more-famous Lucas did it again in ''The Empire Strikes Back'', whereupon the DGA fined him $250,000, leading to him ultimately leaving the DGA altogether. In reality, there is no DGA rule requiring opening credits in a movie and there never has been; Lucas did not break any rules by not including opening credits in ''A New Hope'', and numerous other movies have - and had - foregone them as well without controversy (''Film/CitizenKane'' and ''Film/WestSideStory1961'' are two of the more well known examples). However, the DGA ''did'' have a rule that stipulated that any film that included a credit in the film's opening (including a recognizable part of a name) had to also credit the director in the same sequence. Unfortunately for Lucas, he included a splash card after the 20th Century Fox logo for each movie that included the phrase, "A Lucasfilm Limited Production". Since "Lucasfilm" contained Lucas' name, that would trigger the DGA rule. It didn't apply to ''A New Hope'', since Lucas ''was'' the director, but in ''Empire'', Lucas opted to hand the director's chair over to Irvin Kershner, resulting in the mandatory credit rule coming into effect. Since Kershner wasn't credited and hadn't officially waived his right to be credited, Lucas got hit with the fine, resulting in him resigning the DGA out of annoyance at the ruling.

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* There is a persistent belief among fans that Lucas broke a Director's Guild of America rule by not including opening credits for any of the films (believing that they would disrupt the excitement of the openings), sometimes including the fanciful detail that Lucas was the first director of note to forego the orthodoxy of having opening credits in his film. The common story is that the DGA required that all movies include an opening credits sequence, but that they did not consider Lucas big enough to bother going after for breaking the rule, as ''Star Wars'' [[AndYouThoughtItWouldFail was not expected to be anything more than an unremarkable B-movie]], so they let it slide... until a then-much-more-famous Lucas did it again in ''The Empire Strikes Back'', whereupon the DGA fined him $250,000, leading to him ultimately leaving the DGA altogether. In reality, there is no DGA rule requiring opening credits in a movie and there never has been; Lucas did not break any rules by not including opening credits in ''A New Hope'', and numerous other movies have - and had - foregone them as well without controversy (''Film/CitizenKane'' and ''Film/WestSideStory1961'' are two of the more well known examples). However, the DGA ''did'' have a rule that stipulated that any film that included a credit in the film's opening (including a recognizable part of a name) had to also credit the director in the same sequence. Unfortunately for Lucas, he included a splash card after the 20th Century Fox logo for each movie that included the phrase, "A Lucasfilm Limited Production". Since "Lucasfilm" contained Lucas' Lucas's name, that would trigger the DGA rule. It didn't apply to ''A New Hope'', since Lucas ''was'' the director, but in ''Empire'', Lucas opted to hand the director's chair over to Irvin Kershner, resulting in the mandatory credit rule coming into effect. Since Kershner wasn't credited and hadn't officially waived his right to be credited, Lucas got hit with the fine, resulting in him resigning the DGA out of annoyance at the ruling.
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* One of the (if not the most) controversial moment in ''Film/TheRiseOfSkywalker'' is Poe's "Somehow Palpatine returned" line, as some people tend to believe that this was the film's entire explanation for Palpatine's return. This isn't entirely true. Leaving [[AllThereInTheManual Supplementary material aside]], the film opens with Palpatine's [[MadScientistLaboratory Sith Lab]] where one can infer the Sith used Dark Magic to bring Palpatine back to life. Besides that, Poe's line isn't even an explanation on how he returned, he's explaining that the Intelligence branch of the Resistance confirms that the transmission mentioned in the Opening Crawl is indeed Papatine's voice, and not an impostor. He also is as dumbfounded as the rest of the Resistance on how Palpatine came back. Its the lines following the infamous line that are meant to be the actual explanation.

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* One of the (if not the most) controversial moment in ''Film/TheRiseOfSkywalker'' is Poe's "Somehow Palpatine returned" line, as some people tend to believe that this was the film's entire explanation for Palpatine's return. This isn't entirely true. Leaving [[AllThereInTheManual Supplementary material aside]], the film opens with Palpatine's [[MadScientistLaboratory Sith Lab]] where one can infer the Sith used Dark Magic to bring Palpatine back to life. Besides that, Poe's line isn't even an explanation on how he returned, he's explaining that the Intelligence branch of the Resistance confirms that the transmission mentioned in the Opening Crawl is indeed Papatine's voice, and not an impostor. He also is as dumbfounded as the rest of the Resistance on how Palpatine came back. Its It's the lines following the infamous line that are meant to be the actual explanation.
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* There is a persistent belief among fans that Lucas broke a Director's Guild of America rule by not including opening credits for any of the films (believing that they would disrupt the excitement of the openings), sometimes including the fanciful detail that Lucas was the first director of note to forego the orthodoxy of having opening credits in his film. The common story is that the DGA required that all movies include an opening credits sequence, but that they did not consider Lucas big enough to bother going after for breaking the rule, as ''Star Wars'' was not expected to be anything more than an unremarkable B-movie, so they let it slide... until a then-much-more-famous Lucas did it again in ''The Empire Strikes Back'', whereupon the DGA fined him $250,000, leading to him ultimately leaving the DGA altogether. In reality, there is no DGA rule requiring opening credits in a movie and there never has been; Lucas did not break any rules by not including opening credits in ''A New Hope'', and numerous other movies have - and had - foregone them as well without controversy (''Film/CitizenKane'' and ''Film/WestSideStory1961'' are two of the more well known examples). However, the DGA ''did'' have a rule that stipulated that any film that included a credit in the film's opening (including a recognizable part of a name) had to also credit the director in the same sequence. Unfortunately for Lucas, he included a splash card after the 20th Century Fox logo for each movie that included the phrase, "A Lucasfilm Limited Production". Since "Lucasfilm" contained Lucas's name, that would trigger the DGA rule. It didn't apply to ''A New Hope'', since Lucas ''was'' the director, but in ''Empire'', Lucas opted to hand the director's chair over to Irvin Kirshner, resulting in the mandatory credit rule coming into effect. Since Kirshner wasn't credited and hadn't officially waived his right to be credited, Lucas got hit with the fine, resulting in him resigning the DGA out of annoyance at the ruling.

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* There is a persistent belief among fans that Lucas broke a Director's Guild of America rule by not including opening credits for any of the films (believing that they would disrupt the excitement of the openings), sometimes including the fanciful detail that Lucas was the first director of note to forego the orthodoxy of having opening credits in his film. The common story is that the DGA required that all movies include an opening credits sequence, but that they did not consider Lucas big enough to bother going after for breaking the rule, as ''Star Wars'' [[AndYouThoughtItWouldFail was not expected to be anything more than an unremarkable B-movie, B-movie]], so they let it slide... until a then-much-more-famous Lucas did it again in ''The Empire Strikes Back'', whereupon the DGA fined him $250,000, leading to him ultimately leaving the DGA altogether. In reality, there is no DGA rule requiring opening credits in a movie and there never has been; Lucas did not break any rules by not including opening credits in ''A New Hope'', and numerous other movies have - and had - foregone them as well without controversy (''Film/CitizenKane'' and ''Film/WestSideStory1961'' are two of the more well known examples). However, the DGA ''did'' have a rule that stipulated that any film that included a credit in the film's opening (including a recognizable part of a name) had to also credit the director in the same sequence. Unfortunately for Lucas, he included a splash card after the 20th Century Fox logo for each movie that included the phrase, "A Lucasfilm Limited Production". Since "Lucasfilm" contained Lucas's Lucas' name, that would trigger the DGA rule. It didn't apply to ''A New Hope'', since Lucas ''was'' the director, but in ''Empire'', Lucas opted to hand the director's chair over to Irvin Kirshner, Kershner, resulting in the mandatory credit rule coming into effect. Since Kirshner Kershner wasn't credited and hadn't officially waived his right to be credited, Lucas got hit with the fine, resulting in him resigning the DGA out of annoyance at the ruling.
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* There is a persistent belief among fans that Lucas broke a Director's Guild of America rule by not including opening credits for any of the films (believing that they would disrupt the excitement of the openings), sometimes including the fanciful detail that Lucas was the first director of note to forego the orthodoxy of having opening credits in his film. The common story is that the DGA required that all movies include an opening credits sequence, but that they did not consider Lucas big enough to bother going after for breaking the rule, as ''Star Wars'' was not expected to be anything more than an unremarkable B-movie, so they let it slide... until a then-much-more-famous Lucas did it again in ''The Empire Strikes Back'', whereupon the DGA fined him $250,000, leading to him ultimately leaving the DGA altogether. In reality, there is no DGA rule requiring opening credits in a movie and there never has been; Lucas did not break any rules by not including opening credits in ''A New Hope'', and numerous other movies have - and had - foregone them as well without controversy (''Film/CitizenKane'' and ''Film/WestSideStory1961'' are two of the more well known examples). However, the DGA ''did' have a rule that stipulated that any film that included a credit in the film's opening (including a recognizable part of a name) had to also credit the director in the same sequence. Unfortunately for Lucas, he included a splash card after the 20th Century Fox logo for each movie that included the phrase, "A Lucasfilm Limited Production". Since "Lucasfilm" contained Lucas's name, that would trigger the DGA rule. It didn't apply to ''A New Hope'', since Lucas ''was'' the director, but in ''Empire'', Lucas opted to hand the director's chair over to Irvin Kirshner, resulting in the mandatory credit rule coming into effect. Since Kirshner wasn't credited and hadn't officially waived his right to be credited, Lucas got hit with the fine, resulting in him resigning the DGA out of annoyance at the ruling.

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* There is a persistent belief among fans that Lucas broke a Director's Guild of America rule by not including opening credits for any of the films (believing that they would disrupt the excitement of the openings), sometimes including the fanciful detail that Lucas was the first director of note to forego the orthodoxy of having opening credits in his film. The common story is that the DGA required that all movies include an opening credits sequence, but that they did not consider Lucas big enough to bother going after for breaking the rule, as ''Star Wars'' was not expected to be anything more than an unremarkable B-movie, so they let it slide... until a then-much-more-famous Lucas did it again in ''The Empire Strikes Back'', whereupon the DGA fined him $250,000, leading to him ultimately leaving the DGA altogether. In reality, there is no DGA rule requiring opening credits in a movie and there never has been; Lucas did not break any rules by not including opening credits in ''A New Hope'', and numerous other movies have - and had - foregone them as well without controversy (''Film/CitizenKane'' and ''Film/WestSideStory1961'' are two of the more well known examples). However, the DGA ''did' ''did'' have a rule that stipulated that any film that included a credit in the film's opening (including a recognizable part of a name) had to also credit the director in the same sequence. Unfortunately for Lucas, he included a splash card after the 20th Century Fox logo for each movie that included the phrase, "A Lucasfilm Limited Production". Since "Lucasfilm" contained Lucas's name, that would trigger the DGA rule. It didn't apply to ''A New Hope'', since Lucas ''was'' the director, but in ''Empire'', Lucas opted to hand the director's chair over to Irvin Kirshner, resulting in the mandatory credit rule coming into effect. Since Kirshner wasn't credited and hadn't officially waived his right to be credited, Lucas got hit with the fine, resulting in him resigning the DGA out of annoyance at the ruling.
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* There is a persistent belief among fans that Lucas broke a Director's Guild of America rule by not including opening credits for any of the films (believing that they would disrupt the excitement of the openings), sometimes including the fanciful detail that Lucas was the first director of note to forego the orthodoxy of having opening credits in his film. The common story is that the DGA required that all movies include an opening credits sequence, but that they did not consider Lucas big enough to bother going after for breaking the rule, as ''Star Wars'' was not expected to be anything more than an unremarkable B-movie, so they let it slide... until a then-much-more-famous Lucas did it again in ''The Empire Strikes Back'', whereupon the DGA fined him $250,000, leading to him ultimately leaving the DGA altogether. In reality, there is no DGA rule requiring opening credits in a movie and there never has been; Lucas did not break any rules by not including opening credits in ''A New Hope'', and numerous other movies have - and had - foregone them as well without controversy (''Film/CitizenKane'' and ''Film/WestSideStory1961'' are two of the more well known examples). However, the DGA ''did' have a rule that stipulated that any film that included a credit in the film's opening (including a recognizable part of a name) had to also credit the director in the same sequence. Unfortunately for Lucas, he included a splash card after the 20th Century Fox logo for each movie that included the phrase, "A Lucasfilm Limited Production". Since "Lucasfilm" contained Lucas's name, that would trigger the DGA rule. It didn't apply to ''A New Hope'', since Lucas ''was'' the director, but in ''Empire'', Lucas opted to hand the director's chair over to Irvin Kirshner, resulting in the mandatory credit rule coming into effect. Since Kirshner wasn't credited and hadn't officially waived his right to be credited, Lucas got hit with the fine, resulting in him resigning the DGA out of annoyance at the ruling.
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* People RootingForTheEmpire say the Clone Troopers are Jedi slaves. While their production was first ordered by a Jedi, it's on behalf of the Republic, from whom both Troopers and Jedi take orders. The Republic led by Chancellor (and future Emperor) Palpatine, without whom there would never have been a war to ''need'' Clone Troopers or Jedi generals. Palpatine commands both the clone army ''and'' (secretly) the droid army that kills vast numbers of the Clone Troopers. This also ignores ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'', where the Jedi and Clones have a clearly co-operative relationship, as well as the Clone's capacity for independent thoughts and opinions. In reality they're most similar to a military ProudWarriorRace, though admittedly they hardly have a choice in the matter. Much of the confusion and assumption comes almost exclusively from ''VideoGame/StarWarsBattlefrontII'', where the Clones have a negative view of the Jedi and comment on how they feel the Jedi treat them, coloring most people's perception of the relationship well before ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'' was a thing.

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* People RootingForTheEmpire say the Clone Troopers are Jedi slaves. While their production was first ordered by a Jedi, it's on behalf of the Republic, from whom both Troopers and Jedi take orders. The Republic led by Chancellor (and future Emperor) Palpatine, without whom there would never have been a war to ''need'' Clone Troopers or Jedi generals. Palpatine commands both the clone army ''and'' (secretly) the droid army that kills vast numbers of the Clone Troopers. This also ignores ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'', where the Jedi and Clones have a clearly co-operative relationship, as well as the Clone's capacity for independent thoughts and opinions. In reality they're most similar to a military ProudWarriorRace, though admittedly they hardly have a choice in the matter. Much of the confusion and assumption comes almost exclusively from ''VideoGame/StarWarsBattlefrontII'', ''VideoGame/StarWarsBattlefrontII'' (the original from 2005, not the [[Videogame/StarWarsBattlefrontII2017 EA one]] from 2017), where the Clones have a negative view of the Jedi and comment on how they feel the Jedi treat them, coloring most people's perception of the relationship well before ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'' was a thing.
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* People RootingForTheEmpire say the Clone Troopers are Jedi slaves. While their production was first ordered by a Jedi, it's on behalf of the Republic, from whom both Troopers and Jedi take orders. The Republic led by Chancellor (and future Emperor) Palpatine, without whom there would never have been a war to ''need'' Clone Troopers or Jedi generals. Palpatine commands both the clone army ''and'' (secretly) the droid army that kills vast numbers of the Clone Troopers. This also ignores ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'', where the Jedi and Clones have a clearly co-operative relationship, as well as the Clone's capacity for independent thoughts and opinions. In reality they're most similar to a military ProudWarriorRace, though admittedly they hardly have a choice in the matter.

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* People RootingForTheEmpire say the Clone Troopers are Jedi slaves. While their production was first ordered by a Jedi, it's on behalf of the Republic, from whom both Troopers and Jedi take orders. The Republic led by Chancellor (and future Emperor) Palpatine, without whom there would never have been a war to ''need'' Clone Troopers or Jedi generals. Palpatine commands both the clone army ''and'' (secretly) the droid army that kills vast numbers of the Clone Troopers. This also ignores ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'', where the Jedi and Clones have a clearly co-operative relationship, as well as the Clone's capacity for independent thoughts and opinions. In reality they're most similar to a military ProudWarriorRace, though admittedly they hardly have a choice in the matter. Much of the confusion and assumption comes almost exclusively from ''VideoGame/StarWarsBattlefrontII'', where the Clones have a negative view of the Jedi and comment on how they feel the Jedi treat them, coloring most people's perception of the relationship well before ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'' was a thing.
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* Some detractors of ''The Phantom Menace'' criticize Qui-Gon Jinn for not attempting to free Shmi Skywalker along with Anakin (his line to Shmi "I didn't come here to free slaves" didn't help his case). Except he did try to free her. He tried to make a side bet with Watto: his pod for the two Skywalkers. Watto retorts that no pod is worth two slaves and pulls out a chance cube: if it lands on blue, he'll wager Anakin, if it lands on red, he'll wager Shmi. Qui-Gon decides that he must choose Anakin and manipulates the cube to land on blue. After Anakin wins the race and is informed of his freedom, Anakin asks if his mother is coming with them. Qui-Gon tells Anakin "I tried to free your mother, Ani, but Watto wouldn't allow it." Sure, Qui-Gon could have forced Watto to give Shmi up if he really wanted to, but doing so would have almost certainly caused unnecessary conflict too great for him to handle alone, and the Republic as a whole has little influence on Tatooine. Qui-Gon probably could have done more to free Shmi, but to say that he didn't try to free her at all is false.

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* Some detractors of ''The Phantom Menace'' criticize Qui-Gon Jinn for not attempting to free Shmi Skywalker along with Anakin (his line to Shmi "I ''"I didn't come here to free slaves" didn't slaves"'' doesn't help his case). Except he did ''does'' try to free her. He tried her: he tries to make a side bet with Watto: his pod for the two Skywalkers. Watto retorts wagering Anakin's pod against his and his mother's freedom if Anakin wins the podrace--but Watto insists that no pod is worth two slaves ''two'' slaves, and pulls out rolls a chance cube: if it lands on blue, he'll "chance cube" to decide whether to wager Anakin, if it lands on red, he'll wager Shmi. Anakin or Shmi, leading Qui-Gon decides that he must choose Anakin and manipulates to use the Force to manipulate the cube to land on blue. in Anakin's favor. After Anakin wins the race and is informed of his freedom, Anakin asks if his mother is coming with them. race, Qui-Gon tells Anakin "I addresses this explicitly: ''"I tried to free your mother, Ani, but Watto wouldn't allow have it." "'' Sure, Qui-Gon he could have forced Watto to give Shmi up if he really wanted to, but doing so would have almost certainly caused unnecessary conflict too great for him to handle alone, and particularly since the Republic as a whole has little influence on Tatooine. Qui-Gon probably could have done more to free Shmi, but to say that he didn't try to free her at all is false.
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* One of the (if not the most) controversial moment in ''Film/TheRiseOfSkywalker'' is Poe's "Somehow Palpatine returned" line, as some people tend to believe that this was the film's entire explanation for Palpatine's return. This isn't entirely true. Leaving [[AllThereInTheManual Supplementary material aside]], the film opens with Palpatine's [[MadScientistLaboratory Sith Lab]] where one can infer the Sith used Dark Magic to bring Palpatine back to life. Besides that, Poe's line isn't even an explanation on how he returned, he's explaining that the Intelligence branch of the Resistance confirms that the transmission mentioned in the Opening Crawl is indeed Papatine's voice, and not an impostor. He also is as dumbfounded as the rest of the Resistance on how Palpatine came back. Its the lines following the infamous line that are meant to be the actual explanation.
-->'''Poe:''' We've decoded the intel from the First Order spy and it confirms the worst. Somehow, Palpatine returned.
-->'''Rose:''' Wait, do we believe this?
-->'''Colonel Aftab Ackbar:''' It cannot be. The Emperor is dead.
-->'''Beaumont Kin:''' Dark science. Cloning. Secrets only the Sith knew.
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* Some people tend to misunderstand what "The Battle of Crait" is about in ''Film/TheLastJedi'', this misunderstanding seems to stem from the idea that its a [[RecycledPremise remake]] from "The Battle of Hoth" in ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'', when actually they are quite different. While both feature the bad guys invading a Rebel Base with AT-AT's, that's their only similarity. In "Empire", the Rebels have a fighting chance and use the snowspeeders to delay the AT-AT's and give enough time for the Rebels to escape. While in "Last Jedi", the Resistance has nowhere else to escape, and lost a big chunk of their fighting force, with their plan being to stay inside of the Fortress until the reinforcements arrive, however, once the First Order unveils their "Death Star tech" battering ram. The Resistance has to hold them off until their allies come to help them, [[Cavalryrefusal They don't.]]

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* Some people tend to misunderstand what "The Battle of Crait" is about in ''Film/TheLastJedi'', this misunderstanding seems to stem from the idea that its a [[RecycledPremise remake]] from "The Battle of Hoth" in ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'', when actually they are quite different. While both feature the bad guys invading a Rebel Base with AT-AT's, that's their only similarity. In "Empire", the Rebels have a fighting chance and use the snowspeeders to delay the AT-AT's and give enough time for the Rebels to escape. While in "Last Jedi", the Resistance has nowhere else to escape, and lost a big chunk of their fighting force, with their plan being to stay inside of the Fortress until the reinforcements arrive, however, once the First Order unveils their "Death Star tech" battering ram. The Resistance has to hold them off until their allies come to help them, [[Cavalryrefusal [[spoiler: unfortunately [[CavalryRefusal They don't.]]]]]]
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* Some people tend to misunderstand what "The Battle of Crait" is about in ''Film/TheLastJedi'', this misunderstanding seems to stem from the idea that its a [[RecycledPremise remake]] from "The Battle of Hoth" in ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'', when actually they are quite different. While both feature the bad guys invading a Rebel Base with AT-AT's, that's their only similarity. In "Empire", the Rebels have a fighting chance and use the snowspeeders to delay the AT-AT's and give enough time for the Rebels to escape. While in "Last Jedi", the Resistance has nowhere else to escape, and lost a big chunk of their fighting force, with their plan being to stay inside of the Fortress until the reinforcements arrive, however, once the First Order unveils their "Death Star tech" battering ram. The Resistance has to hold them off until their allies come to help them, [[spoiler: [[Cavalryrefusal They don't.]]]]

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* Some people tend to misunderstand what "The Battle of Crait" is about in ''Film/TheLastJedi'', this misunderstanding seems to stem from the idea that its a [[RecycledPremise remake]] from "The Battle of Hoth" in ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'', when actually they are quite different. While both feature the bad guys invading a Rebel Base with AT-AT's, that's their only similarity. In "Empire", the Rebels have a fighting chance and use the snowspeeders to delay the AT-AT's and give enough time for the Rebels to escape. While in "Last Jedi", the Resistance has nowhere else to escape, and lost a big chunk of their fighting force, with their plan being to stay inside of the Fortress until the reinforcements arrive, however, once the First Order unveils their "Death Star tech" battering ram. The Resistance has to hold them off until their allies come to help them, [[spoiler: [[Cavalryrefusal They don't.]]]]]]
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* Many fans (some jokingly, some seriously) paint Padmé Amidala as a pedophile due to the AgeGapRomance between her and Anakin Skywalker, who was just a child when they met in ''Film/ThePhantomMenace''. For one thing: they're only five years apart in age (he was 9 years old when they met, and she was 14). For another thing: he had a PrecociousCrush on her as a child, but she only viewed him as a friend at the time. And lastly: they didn't actually start dating until Anakin was ''19'', making him a legal adult. This largely owes to their ages only being given in [[AllThereInTheManual supplementary material]], and Creator/NataliePortman having been [[DawsonCasting in her late teens]] and quite mature-looking when ''The Phantom Menace'' was filmed, making Padmé look [[YoungerThanTheyLook older than she was supposed to be]]. When combined with her makeup and extravagant outfits making her look even older, and with [[ImprobableAge her status as an elected monarch and head of state]] (being referred to as "Queen" most of the time), it's pretty easy for a casual viewer to assume that Padme is at the very least college-aged in ''The Phantom Menace''. What's even funnier is that each of the trilogies have a romance with a considerable age gap: Han is 29 while Leia is 19 [[note]] Though they start dating when Leia is 22 [[/note]], with Rey and Kylo having the same age gap.

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* Many fans (some jokingly, some seriously) paint Padmé Amidala as a pedophile due to the AgeGapRomance between her and Anakin Skywalker, who was just a child when they met in ''Film/ThePhantomMenace''. For one thing: they're only five years apart in age (he was 9 years old when they met, and she was 14). For another thing: he had a PrecociousCrush on her as a child, but she only viewed him as a friend at the time. And lastly: they didn't actually start dating until Anakin was ''19'', making him a legal adult. This largely owes to their ages only being given in [[AllThereInTheManual supplementary material]], and Creator/NataliePortman having been [[DawsonCasting in her late teens]] and quite mature-looking when ''The Phantom Menace'' was filmed, making Padmé look [[YoungerThanTheyLook older than she was supposed to be]]. When combined with her makeup and extravagant outfits making her look even older, and with [[ImprobableAge her status as an elected monarch and head of state]] (being referred to as "Queen" most of the time), it's pretty easy for a casual viewer to assume that Padme is at the very least college-aged in ''The Phantom Menace''. What's even funnier is that each of the trilogies have a romance with a considerable age gap: Han is 29 32 while Leia is 19 [[note]] Though they start dating when Leia is 22 [[/note]], with Rey and Kylo having the same a similar age gap.
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* A frequent complaint about Ochi's dagger in ''Film/TheRiseOfSkywalker'' is that it is "ancient" yet the shape matches the only 30 year old Death Star wreckage. The dagger itself is never stated anywhere to be ancient, only that it has markings written in the ancient Sith language. Similarly, some people make fun at the idea that when Rey holds the dagger, she feels that "terrible things have been done with this dagger", while holding on the other hand the lightsaber that Anakin infamously used to kill younglings in ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith''. Even though when she first touched Anakin's lightsaber in ''Film/TheForceAwakens'', she does feel the events that the lightsaber lived through, mainly the duel between Luke and Vader in ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack''. Not to mention, how that particular dagger was used to [[spoiler: kill her parents]] which explains Rey's connection.

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* A frequent complaint about Ochi's dagger in ''Film/TheRiseOfSkywalker'' is that it is "ancient" yet the shape matches the only 30 year old Death Star wreckage. The dagger itself is never stated anywhere to be ancient, only that it has markings written in the ancient Sith language. Similarly, some people make fun at the idea that when Rey holds the dagger, she feels that "terrible things have been done with this dagger", while holding on the other hand the lightsaber that Anakin infamously used to kill younglings in ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith''. Even though when she first touched Anakin's lightsaber in ''Film/TheForceAwakens'', she does feel the events that the lightsaber lived through, mainly the duel between Luke and Vader in ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack''. Not to mention, how that particular dagger was used to [[spoiler: kill [[spoiler:kill her parents]] which explains Rey's connection.more personal connection and more emotional reaction.
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* A frequent complaint about Ochi's dagger in ''Film/TheRiseOfSkywalker'' is that it is "ancient" yet the shape matches the only 30 year old Death Star wreckage. The dagger itself is never stated anywhere to be ancient, only that it has markings written in the ancient Sith language. Similarly, some people make fun at the idea that when Rey holds the dagger, she feels that "terrible things have been done with this dagger'', while holding on the other hand the lightsaber that Anakin infamously used to kill younglings in ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith''. Even though when she first touched Anakin's lightsaber in ''Film/TheForceAwakens'', she does feel the events that the lightsaber lived through, mainly the duel between Luke and Vader in "Empire". Not to mention, how that particular dagger was used to [[spoiler: kill her parents]] which explains Rey's connection.

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* A frequent complaint about Ochi's dagger in ''Film/TheRiseOfSkywalker'' is that it is "ancient" yet the shape matches the only 30 year old Death Star wreckage. The dagger itself is never stated anywhere to be ancient, only that it has markings written in the ancient Sith language. Similarly, some people make fun at the idea that when Rey holds the dagger, she feels that "terrible things have been done with this dagger'', dagger", while holding on the other hand the lightsaber that Anakin infamously used to kill younglings in ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith''. Even though when she first touched Anakin's lightsaber in ''Film/TheForceAwakens'', she does feel the events that the lightsaber lived through, mainly the duel between Luke and Vader in "Empire".''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack''. Not to mention, how that particular dagger was used to [[spoiler: kill her parents]] which explains Rey's connection.
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* A frequent complaint about Ochi's dagger in ''Film/TheRiseOfSkywalker'' is that it is "ancient" yet the shape matches the only 30 year old Death Star wreckage. The dagger itself is never stated anywhere to be ancient, only that it has markings written in the ancient Sith language. Similarly, some people make fun at the idea that when Rey holds the dagger, she feels that "terrible things have been done with this dagger'', while holding on the other hand the lightsaber that Anakin infamously used to kill younglings in ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith''. Even though when she first touched Anakin's lightsaber in ''Film/TheForceAwakens'', she does feel the events that the lightsaber lived through, mainly the duel between Luke and Vader in ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'' . Not to mention, how that particular dagger was used to [[spoiler: kill her parents]] which explains Rey's connection.

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* A frequent complaint about Ochi's dagger in ''Film/TheRiseOfSkywalker'' is that it is "ancient" yet the shape matches the only 30 year old Death Star wreckage. The dagger itself is never stated anywhere to be ancient, only that it has markings written in the ancient Sith language. Similarly, some people make fun at the idea that when Rey holds the dagger, she feels that "terrible things have been done with this dagger'', while holding on the other hand the lightsaber that Anakin infamously used to kill younglings in ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith''. Even though when she first touched Anakin's lightsaber in ''Film/TheForceAwakens'', she does feel the events that the lightsaber lived through, mainly the duel between Luke and Vader in ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'' ."Empire". Not to mention, how that particular dagger was used to [[spoiler: kill her parents]] which explains Rey's connection.
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* Some people tend to misunderstand what "The Battle of Crait" is about in ''Film/TheLastJedi'', this misunderstanding seems to stem from the idea that its a [[RecycledPremise remake]] from "The Battle of Hoth" in ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'', when actually they are quite different. While both feature the bad guys invading a Rebel Base with AT-AT's, that's their only similarity. In "Empire", the Rebels have a fighting chance and use the snowspeeders to delay the AT-AT's and give enough time for the Rebels to escape. While in "Last Jedi", the Resistance has nowhere else to escape, and lost a big chunk of their fighting force, with their plan being to stay inside of the Fortress until the reinforcements arrive, however, once the First Order unveils their "Death Star tech" battering ram. The Resistance has to hold them off until their allies come to help them, [[spoiler: [[Cavalryrefusal They don't.]]

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* Some people tend to misunderstand what "The Battle of Crait" is about in ''Film/TheLastJedi'', this misunderstanding seems to stem from the idea that its a [[RecycledPremise remake]] from "The Battle of Hoth" in ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'', when actually they are quite different. While both feature the bad guys invading a Rebel Base with AT-AT's, that's their only similarity. In "Empire", the Rebels have a fighting chance and use the snowspeeders to delay the AT-AT's and give enough time for the Rebels to escape. While in "Last Jedi", the Resistance has nowhere else to escape, and lost a big chunk of their fighting force, with their plan being to stay inside of the Fortress until the reinforcements arrive, however, once the First Order unveils their "Death Star tech" battering ram. The Resistance has to hold them off until their allies come to help them, [[spoiler: [[Cavalryrefusal They don't.]]]]]]



* Many fans (some jokingly, some seriously) paint Padmé Amidala as a pedophile due to the AgeGapRomance between her and Anakin Skywalker, who was just a child when they met in ''Film/ThePhantomMenace''. For one thing: they're only five years apart in age (he was 9 years old when they met, and she was 14). For another thing: he had a PrecociousCrush on her as a child, but she only viewed him as a friend at the time. And lastly: they didn't actually start dating until Anakin was ''19'', making him a legal adult. This largely owes to their ages only being given in [[AllThereInTheManual supplementary material]], and Creator/NataliePortman having been [[DawsonCasting in her late teens]] and quite mature-looking when ''The Phantom Menace'' was filmed, making Padmé look [[YoungerThanTheyLook older than she was supposed to be]]. When combined with her makeup and extravagant outfits making her look even older, and with [[ImprobableAge her status as an elected monarch and head of state]] (being referred to as "Queen" most of the time), it's pretty easy for a casual viewer to assume that Padme is at the very least college-aged in ''The Phantom Menace''. What's even funnier is that each of the trilogies have a romance with a considerable age gap: Han is 29 while Leia is 19 [[note: Though they start dating when Leia is 22]], with Rey and Kylo having the same age gap.

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* Many fans (some jokingly, some seriously) paint Padmé Amidala as a pedophile due to the AgeGapRomance between her and Anakin Skywalker, who was just a child when they met in ''Film/ThePhantomMenace''. For one thing: they're only five years apart in age (he was 9 years old when they met, and she was 14). For another thing: he had a PrecociousCrush on her as a child, but she only viewed him as a friend at the time. And lastly: they didn't actually start dating until Anakin was ''19'', making him a legal adult. This largely owes to their ages only being given in [[AllThereInTheManual supplementary material]], and Creator/NataliePortman having been [[DawsonCasting in her late teens]] and quite mature-looking when ''The Phantom Menace'' was filmed, making Padmé look [[YoungerThanTheyLook older than she was supposed to be]]. When combined with her makeup and extravagant outfits making her look even older, and with [[ImprobableAge her status as an elected monarch and head of state]] (being referred to as "Queen" most of the time), it's pretty easy for a casual viewer to assume that Padme is at the very least college-aged in ''The Phantom Menace''. What's even funnier is that each of the trilogies have a romance with a considerable age gap: Han is 29 while Leia is 19 [[note: [[note]] Though they start dating when Leia is 22]], 22 [[/note]], with Rey and Kylo having the same age gap.



* A frequent complaint about Ochi's dagger in ''Film/TheRiseOfSkywalker'' is that it is "ancient" yet the shape matches the only 30 year old Death Star wreckage. The dagger itself is never stated anywhere to be ancient, only that it has markings written in the ancient Sith language. Similarly, some people make fun at the idea that when Rey holds the dagger, she feels that "terrible things have been done with this dagger'', while holding on the other hand the lightsaber that Anakin infamously used to kill younglings in ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith''. Even though when she first touched Anakin's lightsaber in ''Film/TheForceAwakens'', she does feel the events that the lightsaber lived through, mainly the duel between Luke and Vader in ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack''. Not to mention, how that particular dagger was used to [[spoiler: kill her parents]] which explains Rey's connection.

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* A frequent complaint about Ochi's dagger in ''Film/TheRiseOfSkywalker'' is that it is "ancient" yet the shape matches the only 30 year old Death Star wreckage. The dagger itself is never stated anywhere to be ancient, only that it has markings written in the ancient Sith language. Similarly, some people make fun at the idea that when Rey holds the dagger, she feels that "terrible things have been done with this dagger'', while holding on the other hand the lightsaber that Anakin infamously used to kill younglings in ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith''. Even though when she first touched Anakin's lightsaber in ''Film/TheForceAwakens'', she does feel the events that the lightsaber lived through, mainly the duel between Luke and Vader in ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack''.''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'' . Not to mention, how that particular dagger was used to [[spoiler: kill her parents]] which explains Rey's connection.
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* On a somewhat related note, a minor but very vocal part of the fanbase has a problem with most of Rey's abilities in ''Film/TheForceAwakens'', one of the main criticisms being how Rey defeated Kylo (who was trained by both Snoke and Luke Skywalker) despite never having held a lightsaber before. Even though the movie offers several justifications for this, first, she already had experience in hand to hand combat as shown with her staff in Jakku, second, Kylo had been shot by Chewbacca and had fought Finn (who had experience with a lightsaber) as well having just killed his father and finally, Kylo didn't even want Rey dead, he was trying to convince her to be his apprentice as he tells her "You need a teacher!" which makes it even more plausible the outcome of her besting Kylo as he wasn't taking her seriously. This connects to the belief by some that Rey is a "Mary Sue", even though she gets captured several times throughout the movies, gets treated like a joke by Snoke and literally dies (briefly) in the films.

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* On a somewhat related note, a minor but very vocal part of the fanbase has a problem with most of Rey's abilities in ''Film/TheForceAwakens'', one of the main criticisms being how Rey defeated Kylo (who was trained by both Snoke and Luke Skywalker) despite never having held a lightsaber before. Even though the movie offers several justifications for this, first, she already had experience in hand to hand combat as shown with her staff in Jakku, second, Kylo had been shot by Chewbacca and had fought Finn (who had did have experience with a lightsaber) as well having just [[spoiler: killed his father father]] and finally, Kylo didn't even want Rey dead, he was trying to convince her to be his apprentice as he tells her "You need a teacher!" which makes it even more plausible the outcome of her besting Kylo as he wasn't taking her seriously. This connects to the belief by some that Rey is a "Mary Sue", even though she gets captured several times throughout the movies, gets treated like a joke by Snoke and literally [[spoiler: dies (briefly) (briefly)]] in the films.



* Some people tend to misunderstand what "The Battle of Crait" is about in ''Film/TheLastJedi'', this misunderstanding seems to stem from the idea that its a [[RecycledPremise remake]] from "The Battle of Hoth" in ''Film/EmpireStrikesBack'', when actually they are quite different. While both feature the bad guys invading a Rebel Base with AT-AT's, that's their only similarity. In "Empire", the Rebels have a fighting chance and use the snowspeeders to delay the AT-AT's and give enough time for the Rebels to escape. While in "Last Jedi", the Resistance has nowhere else to escape, and lost a big chunk of their fighting force, with their plan being to stay inside of the Fortress until the reinforcements arrive, however, once the First Order unveils their "Death Star tech" battering ram. The Resistance has to hold them off until their allies come to help them, [[spoiler: [[Cavalryrefusal They don't.]] ]]

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* Some people tend to misunderstand what "The Battle of Crait" is about in ''Film/TheLastJedi'', this misunderstanding seems to stem from the idea that its a [[RecycledPremise remake]] from "The Battle of Hoth" in ''Film/EmpireStrikesBack'', ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'', when actually they are quite different. While both feature the bad guys invading a Rebel Base with AT-AT's, that's their only similarity. In "Empire", the Rebels have a fighting chance and use the snowspeeders to delay the AT-AT's and give enough time for the Rebels to escape. While in "Last Jedi", the Resistance has nowhere else to escape, and lost a big chunk of their fighting force, with their plan being to stay inside of the Fortress until the reinforcements arrive, however, once the First Order unveils their "Death Star tech" battering ram. The Resistance has to hold them off until their allies come to help them, [[spoiler: [[Cavalryrefusal They don't.]] ]]



* Many fans (some jokingly, some seriously) paint Padmé Amidala as a pedophile due to the AgeGapRomance between her and Anakin Skywalker, who was just a child when they met in ''Film/ThePhantomMenace''. For one thing: they're only five years apart in age (he was 9 years old when they met, and she was 14). For another thing: he had a PrecociousCrush on her as a child, but she only viewed him as a friend at the time. And lastly: they didn't actually start dating until Anakin was ''19'', making him a legal adult. This largely owes to their ages only being given in [[AllThereInTheManual supplementary material]], and Creator/NataliePortman having been [[DawsonCasting in her late teens]] and quite mature-looking when ''The Phantom Menace'' was filmed, making Padmé look [[YoungerThanTheyLook older than she was supposed to be]]. When combined with her makeup and extravagant outfits making her look even older, and with [[ImprobableAge her status as an elected monarch and head of state]] (being referred to as "Queen" most of the time), it's pretty easy for a casual viewer to assume that Padme is at the very least college-aged in ''The Phantom Menace''.

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* Many fans (some jokingly, some seriously) paint Padmé Amidala as a pedophile due to the AgeGapRomance between her and Anakin Skywalker, who was just a child when they met in ''Film/ThePhantomMenace''. For one thing: they're only five years apart in age (he was 9 years old when they met, and she was 14). For another thing: he had a PrecociousCrush on her as a child, but she only viewed him as a friend at the time. And lastly: they didn't actually start dating until Anakin was ''19'', making him a legal adult. This largely owes to their ages only being given in [[AllThereInTheManual supplementary material]], and Creator/NataliePortman having been [[DawsonCasting in her late teens]] and quite mature-looking when ''The Phantom Menace'' was filmed, making Padmé look [[YoungerThanTheyLook older than she was supposed to be]]. When combined with her makeup and extravagant outfits making her look even older, and with [[ImprobableAge her status as an elected monarch and head of state]] (being referred to as "Queen" most of the time), it's pretty easy for a casual viewer to assume that Padme is at the very least college-aged in ''The Phantom Menace''. What's even funnier is that each of the trilogies have a romance with a considerable age gap: Han is 29 while Leia is 19 [[note: Though they start dating when Leia is 22]], with Rey and Kylo having the same age gap.



* A frequent complaint about Ochi's dagger in ''Film/TheRiseOfSkywalker'' is that it is "ancient" yet the shape matches the only 30 year old Death Star wreckage. The dagger itself is never stated anywhere to be ancient, only that it has markings written in the ancient Sith language

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* A frequent complaint about Ochi's dagger in ''Film/TheRiseOfSkywalker'' is that it is "ancient" yet the shape matches the only 30 year old Death Star wreckage. The dagger itself is never stated anywhere to be ancient, only that it has markings written in the ancient Sith languagelanguage. Similarly, some people make fun at the idea that when Rey holds the dagger, she feels that "terrible things have been done with this dagger'', while holding on the other hand the lightsaber that Anakin infamously used to kill younglings in ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith''. Even though when she first touched Anakin's lightsaber in ''Film/TheForceAwakens'', she does feel the events that the lightsaber lived through, mainly the duel between Luke and Vader in ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack''. Not to mention, how that particular dagger was used to [[spoiler: kill her parents]] which explains Rey's connection.
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* One of the common criticisms of ''Film/TheForceAwakens'' is that Rey is a better pilot of the ''Falcon'' than Han. There's absolutely no evidence to support such a claim. She nearly crashes the ship trying to take off, and takes more damage dogfighting two TIE Fighters than Han did back in the day, even with the Force to help.[[note]]To be fair, Han had two gunners to her one.[[/note]] The closest she comes to besting him is fixing a mechanical problem, even though the film clearly establishes that she's a) a mechanic, and b) is familiar with the modifications made to the ship since Han owned it, and specifically advised against the one she fixes. And, if his track record in The Empire Strikes Back is anything to go by, Han and Chewie aren't actually the best mechanics in the galaxy.

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* One of the common criticisms of ''Film/TheForceAwakens'' is that Rey is a better pilot of the ''Falcon'' than Han. There's absolutely no evidence to support such a claim. She nearly crashes the ship trying to take off, and takes more damage dogfighting two TIE Fighters than Han did back in the day, even with the Force to help.[[note]]To be fair, Han had two gunners to her one.[[/note]] The closest she comes to besting him is fixing a mechanical problem, even though the film clearly establishes that she's a) a mechanic, and b) is familiar with the modifications made to the ship since Han owned it, and specifically advised against the one she fixes. And, if his track record in The Empire Strikes Back is anything to go by, Han and Chewie aren't actually the best mechanics in the galaxy. Not to mention she was working for Unkar Plutt (who modified the Falcon).
* On a somewhat related note, a minor but very vocal part of the fanbase has a problem with most of Rey's abilities in ''Film/TheForceAwakens'', one of the main criticisms being how Rey defeated Kylo (who was trained by both Snoke and Luke Skywalker) despite never having held a lightsaber before. Even though the movie offers several justifications for this, first, she already had experience in hand to hand combat as shown with her staff in Jakku, second, Kylo had been shot by Chewbacca and had fought Finn (who had experience with a lightsaber) as well having just killed his father and finally, Kylo didn't even want Rey dead, he was trying to convince her to be his apprentice as he tells her "You need a teacher!" which makes it even more plausible the outcome of her besting Kylo as he wasn't taking her seriously. This connects to the belief by some that Rey is a "Mary Sue", even though she gets captured several times throughout the movies, gets treated like a joke by Snoke and literally dies (briefly) in the films.
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* Many people believe that the Jedi are forbidden to engage in romance and sex. While it is true that Jedi are forbidden to enter romantic relationships (since they believe that [[LoveMakesYouEvil such relationships can tempt a Jedi to turn to the Dark Side]]), George Lucas has stated that Jedi are allowed to have casual sex if they wish.

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* Similarly: the [=AT-ATs=] of ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'' are often viewed as impractical and ineffective, to the point that it's basically a {{meme|tic mutation}} to depict them as useless, clumsy monstrosities that can be easily felled by exploiting their glaring weakness. In fact: in the film, they are shown to be ''scarily'' effective, [[CurbStompBattle cleaning the Rebels' clocks]] so efficiently that General Veers casually tells Vader to begin his landing before he's even taken out their shield generator, as he knows victory's inevitable at that point. Their "glaring weakness" is a vulnerability to a desperate, esoteric tactic requiring tricky flying and a specific armament that most ships don't even have. And even with this vulnerability, ItOnlyWorksOnce: the Rebels only manage to take ''one'' of them out in this manner and suffer heavy casualties in the process as the Imperials simply begin shooting down the Rebel Snowspeeders before they can attempt a second try.[[note]]Furthermore, such a weakness is [[RealityIsUnrealistic surprisingly reasonable and realistic]] as most military vehicles in real life are severely vulnerable to wire tangling up their axles. There's a reason why vehicle checkpoints in real life make heavy use of concertina wire (imagine if a slinky and barbed wire had a baby, being a springy coil of razor wire that can easily be pulled across a street) and knife rests (a flimsy x-shaped frame of wood or stakes held together with barbed wire), as these will both stop a vehicle dead in its tracks.[[/note]] And contrary to popular belief, they don't just shoot forward: the film shows that they're easily capable of flexing and bending with their legs to accurately snipe small targets -- they even easily land hits on ''Luke'' multiple separate times, despite his talent as a pilot, killing his gunner and shooting him down fairly early into the battle.

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* Similarly: the [=AT-ATs=] of ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'' are often viewed as impractical and ineffective, to the point that it's basically a {{meme|tic mutation}} to depict them as useless, clumsy monstrosities that can be easily felled by exploiting their glaring weakness. In fact: in the film, they are shown to be ''scarily'' effective, [[CurbStompBattle cleaning the Rebels' clocks]] so efficiently that General Veers casually tells Vader to begin his landing before he's even taken out their shield generator, as he knows victory's inevitable at that point. Their "glaring weakness" is a vulnerability to a desperate, esoteric tactic requiring tricky flying and a specific armament that most ships don't even have. And even with this vulnerability, ItOnlyWorksOnce: the Rebels only manage to take ''one'' of them out in this manner and suffer heavy casualties in the process as the Imperials simply begin shooting down the Rebel Snowspeeders before they can attempt a second try.[[note]]Furthermore, such a weakness is [[RealityIsUnrealistic surprisingly reasonable and realistic]] as most military vehicles in real life are severely vulnerable to wire tangling up their axles. There's a reason why vehicle checkpoints in real life make heavy use of concertina wire (imagine if a slinky and barbed wire had a baby, being a springy coil of razor wire that can easily be pulled across a street) and knife rests (a flimsy x-shaped frame of wood or stakes held together with barbed wire), as these will both stop a vehicle dead in its tracks.[[/note]] And contrary to popular belief, they don't just shoot forward: the film shows that they're easily capable of flexing and bending with their legs to accurately snipe small targets -- they even easily land hits on ''Luke'' multiple separate times, despite his talent as a pilot, killing his gunner and shooting him down fairly early into the battle. They even outright declare, InUniverse, that their attack against the [=AT-ATs=] is, at best, a desperation tactic with no hope of even working.
--> '''Luke:''' Rogue Group, use your harpoons and tow cables. Go for the legs. ''It might be our only chance of stopping them''.
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* A frequent complaint about Ochi's dagger in ''Film/TheRiseOfSkywalker'' is that it is "ancient" yet the shape matches the Death Star wreckage. The dagger itself is never stated anywhere to be ancient, only that it has markings written in the ancient Sith language

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* A frequent complaint about Ochi's dagger in ''Film/TheRiseOfSkywalker'' is that it is "ancient" yet the shape matches the only 30 year old Death Star wreckage. The dagger itself is never stated anywhere to be ancient, only that it has markings written in the ancient Sith language
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* Some fans like to point out that Obi-Wan doesn't recognize R2-D2 and C-3PO in ''Film/ANewHope'' [[AlreadyMetEveryone when he is revealed to have met them in the prequels]], particularly scrutinizing his line "I don't seem to remember ever owning a droid". In truth, though the droids ''are'' part of the main cast in both the prequels and the originals, Obi-Wan has almost no meaningful interactions with them in the prequels. [[note]]He never meets C-3PO in ''Film/ThePhantomMenace'' because he doesn't accompany Qui-Gon and Padmé to Mos Espa to meet Anakin, and he doesn't meet him in ''Film/AttackOfTheClones'' because Anakin and Padmé reunite with him at the Lars homestead while Obi-Wan is on Geonosis. In ''Revenge of the Sith'', he simply passes by 3PO while boarding Padmé's ship, and since he just killed Vader (he thinks) and Padmé is also mortally wounded, his mind is clearly elsewhere. The most extensive interaction he has with R2 over the communicator so they can navigate the interior of the ''Invisible Hand''. And like the example with Anakin/Vader, most astromech droids look the same, so it's understandable why Obi-Wan might not immediately recognize R2 when they reunited on Tatooine. [[/note]] According to the prequels, he also isn't lying when he says that he never owned R2; R2 was ''Padmé's'' droid which she later gifted to Anakin. While he did have other droids in his Starfighters (most notably R4-P17), he technically didn’t own them. And even in ''A New Hope'' itself, it's heavily implied that R2 is lying about being owned by Obi-Wan, and that he just wanted Luke to take him to Obi-Wan so that he could deliver Leia's message.

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* Some fans like to point out that Obi-Wan doesn't recognize R2-D2 and C-3PO in ''Film/ANewHope'' [[AlreadyMetEveryone when he is revealed to have met them in the prequels]], particularly scrutinizing his line "I don't seem to remember ever owning a droid". In truth, though the droids ''are'' part of the main cast in both the prequels and the originals, Obi-Wan has almost no meaningful interactions with them in the prequels. [[note]]He never meets C-3PO in ''Film/ThePhantomMenace'' because he doesn't accompany Qui-Gon and Padmé to Mos Espa to meet Anakin, and he doesn't meet him in ''Film/AttackOfTheClones'' because Anakin and Padmé reunite with him at the Lars homestead while Obi-Wan is on Geonosis. In ''Revenge of the Sith'', he simply passes by 3PO while boarding Padmé's ship, and since he just killed Vader (he thinks) and Padmé is also mortally wounded, his mind is clearly elsewhere. The most extensive interaction he has with R2 is over the communicator so they can navigate the interior of the ''Invisible Hand''. And like the example with Anakin/Vader, most astromech droids look the same, so it's understandable why Obi-Wan might not immediately recognize R2 when they reunited on Tatooine. [[/note]] According to the prequels, he also isn't lying when he says that he never owned R2; R2 was ''Padmé's'' droid which she later gifted to Anakin. While he did have other droids in his Starfighters (most notably R4-P17), he technically didn’t own them. And even in ''A New Hope'' itself, it's heavily implied that R2 is lying about being owned by Obi-Wan, and that he just wanted Luke to take him to Obi-Wan so that he could deliver Leia's message.

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