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* BullyingTheDragon: Luthor sends Brainiac to shrink Stalingrad and then smugly taunts Superman about it to his face, even dropping the glass jar Stalingrad is in to make Superman catch it. He is playing remote chess as he does so.
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* PayEvilUntoEvil: in his own mind, Hal Jordan builds his own concentration camp where he can torture and kill his captors.
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* BlackComedy:
-> '''Superman:''' Captain Roslov [[note]]Stalin's poisoner[[/note]] was devastated by the old man's death. We all were. He didn't rest until [[FallGuy he found the man who poisoned him and had him shot in Red Square in full public view]].
-> '''Superman:''' Captain Roslov [[note]]Stalin's poisoner[[/note]] was devastated by the old man's death. We all were. He didn't rest until [[FallGuy he found the man who poisoned him and had him shot in Red Square in full public view]].
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* KickTheDog: Luthor delivers electric shocks to the players he beats remotely in chess.
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* RedOniBlueOni: Superman and Bizarro, respectively, in an inversion of their usual relationship. Hightlighted by bizarro's use of [[BlueIsCold freeze vision]].
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* RedOniBlueOni: Superman and Bizarro, respectively, in an inversion of their usual relationship. Hightlighted by bizarro's use of [[BlueIsCold [[BlueMeansCold freeze vision]].
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* RedOniBlueOni: Superman and Bizarro, respectively, in an inversion of their usual relationship. Hightlighted by bizarro's use of [[BlueIsCold freeze vision]].
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** The citizens of London demand to know why Superman is trying to [[TalkingTheMonsterToDeath talk bizarro to death]] instead of just killing him, since their fight has already caused hundreds of deaths worth of collateral damage. Justified, as Superman's approach causes the monster to sacrifice himself to save London from a nuclear weapon.
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* NotSoWellIntentionedExtremist: Luthor causes considerable collateral damage as he sends superpowered beings to attack Superman in the name of saving the world from despotism - except his real motivations are far pettier.
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* NotSoWellIntentionedExtremist: Luthor causes considerable collateral damage as he sends superpowered beings to attack Superman in the name of saving the world from despotism - except his real motivations are far pettier.
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* OOCIsSeriousBusiness: In this timeline, Batman considered Superman a serious enough threat that he was even willing to make a temporary alliance with the man who killed his parents just to try to take down Superman.
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* OOCIsSeriousBusiness: OOCIsSeriousBusiness:
** Batman sports a joker smile so you know how AxCrazy he is.
** In this timeline, Batman considered Superman a serious enough threat that he was even willing to make a temporary alliance with the man who killed his parents just to try to take down Superman.
** Batman sports a joker smile so you know how AxCrazy he is.
** In this timeline, Batman considered Superman a serious enough threat that he was even willing to make a temporary alliance with the man who killed his parents just to try to take down Superman.
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* DirtyOldMan:Stalin tries to get it on with Hippolyta at a diplomatic function. Despite her [[OlderThanTheyLook youthful appearance]] she is Really700YearsOld so she tells him "Maybe if you were five thousand years older ..."
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* NotSoDifferentRemark:
--> '''Brainiac:''' Don't die calling me a [[CompleteMonster MONSTER]], Superman. It is IMPORTANT that you realize you and I are EXACTLY the same kind of creatures.
--> '''Lois Lane:''' Superman might be a nut with a Messiah complex, but don't you think we're in danger of just replacing one demagogue with another?
--> '''Brainiac:''' Don't die calling me a [[CompleteMonster MONSTER]], Superman. It is IMPORTANT that you realize you and I are EXACTLY the same kind of creatures.
--> '''Lois Lane:''' Superman might be a nut with a Messiah complex, but don't you think we're in danger of just replacing one demagogue with another?
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* SelfDestructMechanism: Brainic has one, complete with a public countdown conveniently just long enough for Superman to fly it into space.
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* SelfDestructMechanism: Brainic Brainiac has one, complete with a public countdown conveniently just long enough for Superman to fly it into space.
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* SelfDestructMechanism: Brainic has one, complete with a public countdown conveniently just long enough for Superman to fly it into space.
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* TimeBomb:
** Brainiac's self destruct mechanism is rigged to announce a countdown to detonation so whoever it's trying to kill can dispose of it.
** Metaphorically [[spoiler:Luthor's manila envelope]].
** Brainiac's self destruct mechanism is rigged to announce a countdown to detonation so whoever it's trying to kill can dispose of it.
** Metaphorically [[spoiler:Luthor's manila envelope]].
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* MockSurpriseReaction: Luthor's exaggerated fake surprise facial expression as he pretends to be shocked at the fact that Brainiac had a self-destruct mechanism.
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* ObliviouslyEvil: What makes the comic so disturbing is that Superman is a monster, yet his personality is barely any different from his mainstream incarnation. He believes turning dissidents into zombie-like Superman Robots and creating an Orwellian state is justified if it makes an efficient Orwellian state.
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* ObliviouslyEvil: What makes the comic so disturbing is that Superman is a monster, yet his personality is barely any different from his mainstream incarnation. He believes turning dissidents into zombie-like Superman Robots and creating an Orwellian state is justified if it makes an efficient Orwellian state. [[note]] not Orwellian, just totalitarian, the distinguishing features being that an Orwellian state accumulates power purely ForTheEvulz and not for any WellIntentionedExtremist purposes, and an Orwellian society has no concept of truth. [[/note]]
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** Superman has opportunity and justification for shooting Luthor, or at least lobotomizing him, since Luthor has committed crimes against the Soviet Union (eg conspiring with Brainiac to shrink Stalingrad, a crime for which Brainiac has been lobotomized).
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** Superman has opportunity and justification for shooting Luthor, or at least lobotomizing him, since Luthor has committed crimes against the Soviet Union (eg sending supervillains to attack the soviet world and conspiring with Brainiac to shrink Stalingrad, a crime for which Brainiac has been lobotomized).
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** Superman's real fatal flaw is his conscience, which leaves him vulnerable to Luthor's final attack.
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* HobbesWasRight: subverted, a totalitarian dictator forcing people to restrain their base instincts seems to be the best the world can hope for until Luthor gets elected POTUS.
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* InformedAbility: the comic illustrates how being strong and fast can help you beat people. It even illustrates how being smart can help you beat people. It completely handwaves the question of how being smart could enable Superman and Luthor to solve all the world's economic and social problems, and (strangely given the philosophical darkness of the work) it lands the comic squarely in RousseauWasRight territory.
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* RousseauWasRight: it turns out that people can live in a utopia, without a dictator, and that all their social conflict and other problems were merely the result of maladaptive social inputs, which can be completely overcome by the right elected leader. [[spoiler: this state of affairs turns out to be just as unbearable as HobbesWasRight.]]
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* KickTheSonOfABitch: Pyotr humiliates and threatens to kill his limo driver [[spoiler:who turns out to be a Batman]] for daring to make conversation with him.
-> '''Limo Driver:''' What do you think, sir?
-> '''Pyotr:''' I think a NOBODY like YOU doesn't NEED to be convinced, moron. Now SHUT UP and get me to the THEATRE before I have you SHOT for INSOLENCE.
-> '''Limo Driver:''' What do you think, sir?
-> '''Pyotr:''' I think a NOBODY like YOU doesn't NEED to be convinced, moron. Now SHUT UP and get me to the THEATRE before I have you SHOT for INSOLENCE.
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* OneOfTheBoys: Diana has these personality characteristics despite living on themiscyra (and Superman lampshades her as being one).
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* CurbStompBattle: for the climax Superman curbstomps the green lantern corps, then all the themiscyrans, then the entire superman rogue's gallery that luthor had built over the decades, all in half a dozen pages, and then [[spoiler: he gets curb-stomped himself by Luthor's twelve little words.]]
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* CureForCancer: [[spoiler: After he takes over, Luthor cures cancer, AIDS, diabetes, blindness, every genetic disorder and even ''sleep.'']]
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* Really700YearsOld: [[spoiler: Thanks to Luthor's work, human lifespan increases to an average of 800 years in his Global United States. Luthor himself lives until the cusp of the 4th millennium, with Lois, his son and Superman surviving him. It's also implied that Superman lives until the year ''5 billion CE''.]]
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** Pyotr has so little agency that he can't even shoot himself in the head with Superman around.
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** Pyotr has so little agency that he can't even shoot himself in the head with Superman around.around [[note]]that is, within 300 miles[[/note]].
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* PowerPerversionPotential: when America learns of the existence of Superman the panicked people line their houses with lead because they're afraid Superman will watch them on the toilet.
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* CannotSelfTerminate:
** Pyotr has so little agency that he can't even shoot himself in the head with Superman around.
** Brainiac mentions as an aside that he has put a mind-control drug in the water supply so the people can't even escape utopia via suicide.
** Pyotr has so little agency that he can't even shoot himself in the head with Superman around.
** Brainiac mentions as an aside that he has put a mind-control drug in the water supply so the people can't even escape utopia via suicide.
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* FateWorseThanDeath: A "Superman robot" in this continuity, rather than a robotic double for Superman, is someone who has been subjected to mind control and painful cybernetic implants.
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* FateWorseThanDeath: FateWorseThanDeath:
** A "Superman robot" in this continuity, rather than a robotic double for Superman, is someone who has been subjected to mind control andpainful cybernetic implants.implants.
** Apparently this is the fate of [[spoiler:the whole planet]] under the rule of [[spoiler:Luthor and his descendants - the people of Earth allow themselves to be swallowed up by the sun because they have nothing left to live for, but before that they remain stuck in the limbo of materialist utopia for billions of years, unable to move on to something better.]]
** A "Superman robot" in this continuity, rather than a robotic double for Superman, is someone who has been subjected to mind control and
** Apparently this is the fate of [[spoiler:the whole planet]] under the rule of [[spoiler:Luthor and his descendants - the people of Earth allow themselves to be swallowed up by the sun because they have nothing left to live for, but before that they remain stuck in the limbo of materialist utopia for billions of years, unable to move on to something better.]]
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* EvilCannotUnderstandGood: Batman mistakenly thinks Superman is a NotSoWellIntentionedExtremist rather than the real thing. He [[CassandraTruth warns Diana Superman is inducing her to harm herself]], using her because "all he cares about is power" - his argument falling on deaf ears because he has misdiagnosed the [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans reason]] Superman is calling on her to sacrifice herself.
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* EvilCannotUnderstandGood: EvilCannotComprehendGood: Batman mistakenly thinks Superman is a NotSoWellIntentionedExtremist rather than the real thing. He [[CassandraTruth warns Diana Superman is inducing her to harm herself]], using her because "all he cares about is power" - his argument falling on deaf ears because he has misdiagnosed the [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans reason]] Superman is calling on her to sacrifice herself.
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*** this is likely a case of ValuesDissonance - Superman, as a good socialist, likely doesn't consider working-class jobs degrading. Note he was prepared to offer Batman a job in a bank before the latter's [[spoiler:suicide]]. Probably he is merely assigning jobs according to IQ.
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* WhatMeasureIsANonHuman: the lobotomy of humans is treated as such an outrage in the work thst it merits the overthrow of utopia, but the lobotomy of Brainiac is apparently just fine.
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* WhyDontYouJustShootHim:
** Superman has opportunity and justification for shooting Luthor, or at least lobotomizing him, since Luthor has committed crimes against the Soviet Union (eg conspiring with Brainiac to shrink Stalingrad, a crime for which Brainiac has been lobotomized).
** Batman foolishly tries to hold Superman captive rather than killing him.
** For that matter Superman hears Batman order his computer to attack Superman in thirty seconds' time, and Superman stands around and talks to Batman instead of disabling him.
** Superman has opportunity and justification for shooting Luthor, or at least lobotomizing him, since Luthor has committed crimes against the Soviet Union (eg conspiring with Brainiac to shrink Stalingrad, a crime for which Brainiac has been lobotomized).
** Batman foolishly tries to hold Superman captive rather than killing him.
** For that matter Superman hears Batman order his computer to attack Superman in thirty seconds' time, and Superman stands around and talks to Batman instead of disabling him.
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* ElectricTorture: Luthor has a button rigged so he can deliver electric shocks to the players he beats remotely in chess. Why they continue to play chess with him is not explained.
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* DrivenToSuicide: [[spoiler:the entire Earth - its leaders deliberately allow it to be destroyed by the Sun because [[VictoryIsBoring victory is so boring]] they have "nothing left to do but die".]]
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* DrivenToSuicide: DrivenToSuicide:
** [[spoiler:Bizarro sacrifices himself to stop a nuke from blowing up London, foreshadowing Superman's eventual fake suicide.]]
** [[spoiler:Batman blows himself up rather than be captured and lobotomized.]]
** [[spoiler:the entire Earth - its leaders deliberately allow it to be destroyed by the Sun because [[VictoryIsBoring victory is so boring]] they have "nothing left to do but die".]]
** [[spoiler:Bizarro sacrifices himself to stop a nuke from blowing up London, foreshadowing Superman's eventual fake suicide.]]
** [[spoiler:Batman blows himself up rather than be captured and lobotomized.]]
** [[spoiler:the entire Earth - its leaders deliberately allow it to be destroyed by the Sun because [[VictoryIsBoring victory is so boring]] they have "nothing left to do but die".]]
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* ThePowerOfLanguage: Luthor insists that while his various science experiments are all well and good, he will defeat Superman through the power of his words. [[spoiler: he is right.]] Brainiac and Lois both foreshadow this.
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* EvilCannotUnderstandGood: Batman mistakenly thinks Superman is a NotSoWellIntentionedExtremist rather than the real thing. He [[CassandraTruth warns Diana Superman is inducing her to harm herself]], using her because "all he cares about is power" - his argument falling on deaf ears because he has misdiagnosed the [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans reason]] Superman is calling on her to sacrifice herself.
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* NotSoWellIntentionedExtremist: Luthor causes considerable collateral damage as he sends superpowered beings to attack Superman in the name of saving the world from despotism - except his real motivations are far pettier.
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* DownerEnding: the ultimate downer ending, since it turns out that even utopia is so horrible that mankind is [[spoiler:DrivenToSuicide]].
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* Hypocrite: {{Hypocrite}}: Luthor's ArmorPiercingQuestion could be applied just as readily to himself as to Superman except Luthor doesn't care about the principle he's pushing.
