History Comicbook / SupermanRedSon

14th Jul '17 8:34:57 AM Omnicron13
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* MarySueTopia: The book creates two. At first, that's what it seems like. In the world Superman creates "Every adult had a job, every child had a hobby, everybody had a full eight hours sleep. Crime didn't exist. Accidents never happened... Almost six billion citizens and hardly anyone ever complained. Even in private". (Granted, this is because of frequency with which dissidents are lobotomized by having mind-controlling chips forcibly implanted in their brains. "A totalitarian state can work very well when the leader has super-hearing.") However, Lex manages to shake this with his ArmorPiercingQuestion, and Superman realizes he's no better than Brainiac. "Another alien bullying a less-developed species." In the world Lex creates: [[spoiler: the world does become perfect, Lex manages to creates a one-world government of scientists, writers and artists, colonizes the solar system and makes humanity the most advanced race in the universe. But, millions of years in the future, Earth is about to be consumed by its growing red sun. Jor-L sends his son back in time to make sure humanity never becomes "this cold complacent lot".]]

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* MarySueTopia: The book creates two. At first, that's what it seems like. In the world Superman creates "Every adult had a job, every child had a hobby, everybody had a full eight hours sleep. Crime didn't exist. Accidents never happened... Almost six billion citizens and hardly anyone ever complained. Even in private". (Granted, this is because of frequency with which dissidents are lobotomized by having mind-controlling chips forcibly implanted in their brains. "A totalitarian state can work very well when the leader has super-hearing.") However, Lex manages to shake this with his ArmorPiercingQuestion, and Superman realizes he's no better than Brainiac. "Another alien bullying a less-developed species." In the world Lex creates: [[spoiler: the world does become perfect, Lex manages to creates a one-world government of scientists, writers and artists, colonizes the solar system and makes humanity the most advanced race in the universe. But, millions of years in the future, Earth is about to be consumed by its growing red sun. sun and the leaders of mankind along with the populace are too prideful and apathetic to care about it and as Jor-L puts it: "Have nothing left to do but die." Jor-L sends his son back in time to make sure humanity never becomes "this cold complacent lot".]]



* MyGreatestFailure: [[spoiler: Superman considers Stalingrad being shrunk by Brainiac the black spot of his career.]]

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* MyGreatestFailure: [[spoiler: Superman considers failing to restore Stalingrad to size after being shrunk by Brainiac as the black spot of his career.]]



* SelfMadeOrphan: Pyotr is implied to have had Stalin assassinated.

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* SelfMadeOrphan: Pyotr is implied to have had Stalin assassinated.assassinated due to Stalin's intensive favoritism towards Superman and his over-all abusive tendencies considering Stalin threatened to have Pyotr killed for standing against him.



* StableTimeLoop: [[spoiler: Albeit a very, ''very'' long one; Lex Luthor's leadership leads Earth to become Krypton in the future, then his descendants (whose last name has atrophied from Luthor to Luth to L) send their son Kal-L back in time.]]

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* StableTimeLoop: [[spoiler: Albeit a very, ''very'' long one; Lex Luthor's leadership leads Earth to become Krypton in the future, then his descendants (whose last name has atrophied from Luthor to Luth to L) send their son Kal-L back in time.time to prevent that from happening, unknowingly ensuring that Lex would fight against Kal-L to ensure he gains leadership over Earth to begin with.]]



* WomanScorned: Wonder Woman chooses to side with Lex and the Americans against Superman during his invasion strictly because she's still enraged at him for not only rebuffing her feelings, but convincing her to destroy her own lasso to save him against Batman which permanently crippled her.



* YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters: The Batman organization.

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* YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters: The Batman organization.organization, a group of people who decided to follow the example of the deceased terrorist Batman who caused upheaval in the name of preserving human free will in Superman's totalitarian regime.
14th Jul '17 8:12:05 AM Omnicron13
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* AntiVillain: Everyone. [[spoiler: Except {{ComicBook/Brainiac}}.]]

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* AntiVillain: Everyone. [[spoiler: Except {{ComicBook/Brainiac}}.{{ComicBook/Brainiac}} and Pyotr.]]



* BadassArmy: The Green Lantern Marine Corps and the Amazon army.

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* BadassArmy: The Green Lantern Marine Corps and the Amazon army.Army.



* BetterTheDevilYouKnow: Batman asks why he should kill Superman, as Pyotr will undoubtedly be a worse dictator. Pyotr points out that at least he's human and will die some day. For all they know, Superman is immortal and his reign could last forever.
* BetterToDieThanBeKilled: [[spoiler:Batman blows himself up]] rather than be turned into a Superman robot.

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* BetterTheDevilYouKnow: Batman asks why he should kill Superman, Superman to have Pyotr in his place, as Pyotr will undoubtedly be a worse dictator. Pyotr points out that at least he's human and will die some day. For all they know, Superman is immortal and his reign could last forever.
* BetterToDieThanBeKilled: [[spoiler:Batman blows himself up]] up using a bomb he implanted in his body]] rather than be turned into a Superman robot.



* BrainwashingForTheGreaterGood: Superman does this to dissidents, turning them into "Superman robots". He also reprograms Brainiac to serve his cause. [[spoiler:It doesn't take, but Brainiac just rolls with it because Superman is essentially turning Earth into a world that lives by Brainiac's own motto.]]

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* BrainwashingForTheGreaterGood: Superman does this to dissidents, turning them into "Superman robots".robots" who are forced into being happy and productive. He also reprograms Brainiac to serve his cause. [[spoiler:It doesn't take, but Brainiac just rolls with it because Superman is essentially turning Earth into a world that lives by Brainiac's own motto.]]



* BritainIsOnlyLondon: And its most famous landmark gets destroyed.

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* BritainIsOnlyLondon: And its most famous landmark gets destroyed.destroyed during Superman's fight with Bizarro.



** On one hand, Lex's ArmorPiercingQuestion is appropriate. Then, he goes to do the exact same thing with Luthorism except this time, Superman doesn't mind only because the only difference between Lex and him is Lex being human. It defeats the point of the utopia since, you can improve a place only if you were born there. It goes on for [[spoiler:millions of years to boot. It's heavily implied a single bloodline has been ruling Earth during all this time. So much for democracy and the right to choose its ideology]].
** On the other hand, it shows how hypocritical Luthor is. As usual, no matter how clever his arguments, ultimately Lex is DrivenByEnvy the same as always, and only doesn't want Superman in charge because he is convinced ''he'' should be. Indeed, Luthor is not necessarily intended to be portrayed as much better than Superman. Even though he led to an era of peace and prosperity, it should be noted that Superman was doing the same.

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** On one hand, Lex's ArmorPiercingQuestion is appropriate. Then, he goes to do the exact same thing with Luthorism except this time, Superman doesn't mind only because the only difference between Lex and him is Lex being human. It defeats the point of the utopia since, you can improve a place only if you were born there. It goes on for [[spoiler:millions of years to boot. It's heavily implied a single bloodline has been ruling Earth during all this time.time despite the whole point of fighting against Superman's presence and rule was to preserve the free will of the people and avoid totalitarian rule. So much for democracy and the right to choose its ideology]].
** On the other hand, it shows how hypocritical Luthor is.is at his core. As usual, no matter how clever his arguments, ultimately Lex is DrivenByEnvy the same as always, and only doesn't want Superman in charge because he is convinced ''he'' should be. Indeed, Luthor is not necessarily intended to be portrayed as much better than Superman. Even though he led to an era of peace and prosperity, it should be noted that Superman was doing the same.



* TheChosenMany: The Green Lantern Marine Corps. [[spoiler:For all the good it does them; Superman easily and completely kicks their asses.]]

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* TheChosenMany: The Green Lantern Marine Corps. [[spoiler:For all the good it does them; Superman easily and completely kicks their asses.asses before stealing and destroying their rings.]]



* {{Expy}}: Pyotr Roslov, the head of the KGB and Satlin's bastard son is an Elseworlds equivalent of Superman's childhood friend Pete Ross, but he is also a parallel to Stalin's eldest son Yakov Dzhugashvili, who Stalin famously let die in a German prison camp.
* FallenStatesOfAmerica: By 1978, America is pretty much in the gutter. Wonder Woman suggests it all began with the assassination of Richard Nixon in Dallas back in 1963, and now John F. Kennedy is running the show. He's forced to grant independence to Georgia, with similar pressures being exerted by Detroit and Texas, riots in California, and a white house bombing by communist sympathizers.

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* {{Expy}}: Pyotr Roslov, the head of the KGB and Satlin's Stalin's bastard son is an Elseworlds equivalent of Superman's childhood friend Pete Ross, but he is also a parallel to Stalin's eldest son Yakov Dzhugashvili, who Stalin famously let die in a German prison camp.
* FallenStatesOfAmerica: By 1978, America is pretty much in the gutter.gutter with crime and riots being rampant because of poverty. Wonder Woman suggests it all began with the assassination of Richard Nixon in Dallas back in 1963, and now John F. Kennedy is running the show. He's forced to grant independence to Georgia, with similar pressures being exerted by Detroit and Texas, riots in California, and a white house White House bombing by communist sympathizers.



* FatalFlaw: Superman's origin in Russia is not the main difference between him and his mainstream counterpart, and is arguably just a distraction. The true distinction is that this is a Superman who sees the world and its inhabitants as problems that need to be fixed, instead of people that need support. This leads to his ignorance over Pyotr and Wonder Woman's true feelings, and to his world domination.
* FateWorseThanDeath: A "Superman robot" in this continuity, rather than a robotic double for Superman, is someone who has been subjected to mind control.

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* FatalFlaw: Superman's origin in Russia is not the main difference between him and his mainstream counterpart, and is arguably just a distraction. The true distinction is that this is a Superman who sees the world and its inhabitants as problems that need to be fixed, instead of people that need support.support to be better. This leads to his ignorance over Pyotr and Wonder Woman's true feelings, and to his world domination.
* FateWorseThanDeath: A "Superman robot" in this continuity, rather than a robotic double for Superman, is someone who has been subjected to mind control.control and painful cybernetic implants.
10th Jul '17 1:32:54 AM Uyyy
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** In-universe, Pytor points out that for all his value in Soviet propaganda, Superman is living proof that socialist doctrine is wrong: all men are ''not'' created equal.
16th Apr '17 2:16:49 AM Mr.Bubbles
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* FallenStatesOfAmerica: By 1978, America is pretty much in the gutter. Wonder Woman suggests it all began with the assassination of Richard Nixon in Dallas back in 1963, and now John F. Kennedy is running the show. He's forced to grant independence to Georgia, with similar pressures being exerted by Detroit and Texas, riots in California, and a white house bombing by communist sympathizers.
--> '''Luthor:''' I'm afraid you won't be getting my vote next year, Jack.
24th Mar '17 4:37:40 AM Morgenthaler
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** Brainiac to Superman as well.

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** Brainiac to Superman as well. Superman initially defeats and reprograms Brainiac to help him increase the efficiency of his burgeoning Global Soviet Union, [[spoiler:until Brainiac reveals that he merely [[NotBrainwashed faked being reprogrammed]] since Superman was already carrying out Brainiac's plans anyway. This leads Superman to the HeelRealization that he's no better than Brainiac in trying to control humankind.]]
14th Jan '17 8:02:43 PM overman2099
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* OOCIsSeriousBusiness: In this timeline, Batman considered Superman a serious enough threat that he was even willing to make a temporary alliance with the man who killed his parents just to try to take down Superman.
9th Jan '17 3:49:44 PM Xtifr
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* WhoWritesThisCrap: Perry White has this reaction to Soviet propaganda about Superman. It doubles as a TakeThat, since said propaganda mimics the introduction of TheAdventuresOfSuperman.

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* WhoWritesThisCrap: Perry White has this reaction to Soviet propaganda about Superman. It doubles as a TakeThat, since said propaganda mimics the introduction of TheAdventuresOfSuperman.''Series/TheAdventuresOfSuperman''.
9th Jan '17 3:48:23 PM Xtifr
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** The Soviet propaganda about Superman mimics the intro of ''TheAdventuresOfSuperman''.

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** The Soviet propaganda about Superman mimics the intro of ''TheAdventuresOfSuperman''.''Series/TheAdventuresOfSuperman''.
16th Dec '16 6:52:41 PM Mr.Bubbles
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** Also, Sputnik-2, which weighs 5000 pounds/about 2268 kilograms, hitting the ground at 100 meters per second wouldn't be nearly enough to wipe out an entire city.
19th Sep '16 7:36:10 AM Morgenthaler
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* SmartPeoplePlayChess: Superman, Brainiac, and especially Luthor (who is first seen playing ''fourteen'' games of chess at once while reading ''ThePrince'' and teaching himself Urdu on a tape recorder he designed that morning). It acts a recurring motif throughout the story. Funnily enough, in spite of his typical portrayal, Bizarro is skilled enough at chess to beat Luthor at it.

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* SmartPeoplePlayChess: Superman, Brainiac, and especially Luthor (who is first seen playing ''fourteen'' games of chess at once while reading ''ThePrince'' ''Literature/ThePrince'' and teaching himself Urdu on a tape recorder he designed that morning). It acts a recurring motif throughout the story. Funnily enough, in spite of his typical portrayal, Bizarro is skilled enough at chess to beat Luthor at it.
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