History Comicbook / DeathMate

26th Mar '17 1:47:43 PM CurledUpWithDakka
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The premise behind the crossover was simple: ''[[ComicBook/DoctorSolar Solar: Man of the Atom]]'', and ''ComicBook/WildCATs''' Void met, had sex, and this "begins to unravel the strands of time, creating an AlternateUniverse where Image and Valiant characters exist side by side".

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The premise behind the crossover was simple: ''[[ComicBook/DoctorSolar Solar: Man of the Atom]]'', and ''ComicBook/WildCATs''' ''ComicBook/WildCATS''' Void met, had sex, and this "begins to unravel the strands of time, creating an AlternateUniverse where Image and Valiant characters exist side by side".
22nd Jan '17 6:52:53 PM Kadorhal
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The advertisement for ''Deathmate'' said "Their love will end worlds!" While it was talking about Solar and Void, it could also be said to be true of Valiant and Image. This disastrous "pairing" did indeed destroy worlds: It helped [[UsefulNotes/TheGreatComicsCrashOf1996 destroyed the world]] where the comic book industry makes $500 million per year. [[CreatorKiller It destroyed]] the world where Valiant Comics so much as existed, much less was the third highest selling comic company. And it destroyed the world of small comic book shops, many of which went out of business.

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The advertisement for ''Deathmate'' said "Their love will end worlds!" While it was talking about Solar and Void, it could also be said to be true of Valiant and Image. This disastrous "pairing" did indeed destroy worlds: It helped [[UsefulNotes/TheGreatComicsCrashOf1996 destroyed destroy the world]] where the comic book industry makes $500 million per year. It [[CreatorKiller It destroyed]] destroyed the world where Valiant Comics so much as existed, existed]], much less was the third highest selling comic company. And it destroyed the world of small comic book shops, many of which went out of business.



In 2016, a new take on the ''[=DeathMate=]'' storyline was confirmed to be in the works - one that should hopefully avoid crashing the industry again.

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In 2016, a new take on the ''[=DeathMate=]'' storyline was confirmed to be in the works - one that should hopefully come out on time and avoid crashing crippling the industry again.
21st Jan '17 4:12:56 PM Kadorhal
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''[[ComicBook/DoctorSolar Solar: Man of the Atom]]'', and ''ComicBook/WildCATs''' Void met, had sex, and this "begins to unravel the strands of time, creating an AlternateUniverse where Image and Valiant characters exist side by side".

Valiant's and Image's writers knew nothing about the other company's characters, resulting in a ton of CharacterDerailment. You see, Valiant (as a byproduct of its unique real-time continuity system) was super serious about shipping schedules and deadlines, and produced all its contributions on time. Image, on the other hand, was notorious for its ScheduleSlip, so, the Valiant half of ''Deathmate'' was produced on time, but the Image half was produced late. (Creator/RobLiefeld produced his issue, ''Deathmate Red'', a year late, and his contribution to the Valiant-published Prologue issue was completed only after Valiant editor-in-chief Bob Layton came to his house, [[TheThingThatWouldNotLeave refused to leave until it was done]] and inked it in a hotel room.)

By the time the Image half came out, interest in it had dried up, but shop owners had pre-ordered massive numbers of issues when the cross-over had started, and were now left with mountains of unsaleable comics. This, more than any other single event, contributed to the collapse of the comic industry in the '90s. ''Deathmate'' was also one of the events that lead to the fall of Valiant Comics, as it flooded the company with Image artists, and caused a fundamental shift in the way the company was run.

The advertisement for ''Deathmate'' said "Their love will end worlds!" While it was talking about Solar and Void, it could also be said to be true of Valiant and Image. This disastrous "pairing" did indeed destroy worlds: It destroyed the world where the comic book industry makes $500 million per year. [[CreatorKiller It destroyed]] the world where Valiant Comics so much as existed, much less was the third highest selling comic company. And it destroyed the world of small comic book shops, many of which went out of business.

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The premise behind the crossover was simple: ''[[ComicBook/DoctorSolar Solar: Man of the Atom]]'', and ''ComicBook/WildCATs''' Void met, had sex, and this "begins to unravel the strands of time, creating an AlternateUniverse where Image and Valiant characters exist side by side".

However, Valiant's and Image's writers knew nothing about the other company's characters, resulting in a ton of CharacterDerailment. You see, This wasn't the worst problem plaguing the series, either: Valiant (as a byproduct of its unique real-time continuity system) was super serious about shipping schedules and deadlines, and produced all its contributions on time. Image, on the other hand, was notorious for its ScheduleSlip, so, the Valiant half of ''Deathmate'' was produced on time, but the Image half was produced late. (Creator/RobLiefeld Particularly, Creator/RobLiefeld produced his issue, ''Deathmate Red'', a year late, and his contribution to the Valiant-published Prologue issue was completed only after Valiant editor-in-chief Bob Layton came to his house, [[TheThingThatWouldNotLeave refused to leave until it was done]] and inked it in a hotel room.)

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By the time the Image half actually came out, interest in it had dried up, but shop owners had pre-ordered massive numbers of issues when the cross-over had started, and were now left with mountains of unsaleable unsellable comics. This, more than any other single event, contributed to the collapse of the comic industry in the '90s. ''Deathmate'' was also one of the events that lead to the fall of Valiant Comics, as it flooded the company with Image artists, and caused a fundamental shift in the way the company was run.

The advertisement for ''Deathmate'' said "Their love will end worlds!" While it was talking about Solar and Void, it could also be said to be true of Valiant and Image. This disastrous "pairing" did indeed destroy worlds: It helped [[UsefulNotes/TheGreatComicsCrashOf1996 destroyed the world world]] where the comic book industry makes $500 million per year. [[CreatorKiller It destroyed]] the world where Valiant Comics so much as existed, much less was the third highest selling comic company. And it destroyed the world of small comic book shops, many of which went out of business.



* CrossOver: Of Image Comics and Valiant Comics.

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* CrossOver: Of Between Image Comics and Valiant Comics.
11th Dec '16 7:06:15 AM Raygunguy
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* DelayedRippleEffect: In the year 3000 AD, the destruction of the universe in the present causes the world to disappear a la Film/BackToTheFuture.
11th Dec '16 7:02:40 AM Raygunguy
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* YouKilledMyFather: Magnus wants to kill Battlestone for this reason.
10th Dec '16 8:52:51 PM Raygunguy
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* ApocalypseHow: The entire plot is to stop a Class X-5 apocalypse that would destroy the Image and Valiant universes.
10th Dec '16 8:47:46 PM Raygunguy
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* EternalEnglish: Lord Emp is somehow able to speak English even before it was invented.


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* SomethingCompletelyDifferent: Issue Black has different setting than the other issues, which focus on the Toyo Harada's dystopia. The issue, rather than focusing on previously established characters, focuses on Gen13 and serves as their introductory story,
5th Jul '16 4:37:18 PM Jacob175
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Valiant's and Image's writers knew nothing about the other company's characters, resulting in a ton of CharacterDerailment. You see, Valiant (as a byproduct of its unique real-time continuity system) was super serious about shipping schedules and deadlines, and produced all its contributions on time. Image, on the other hand, was notorious for its ScheduleSlip, so, the Valiant half of ''Deathmate'' was produced on time, but the Image half was produced late. (Creator/RobLiefeld produced his issue, ''Deathmate Red'', a year late, and his contribution to the Valiant-published Prologue issue was completed only after Valiant editor-in-chief Bob Layton came to his house, refused to leave until it was done and inked it in a hotel room.)

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Valiant's and Image's writers knew nothing about the other company's characters, resulting in a ton of CharacterDerailment. You see, Valiant (as a byproduct of its unique real-time continuity system) was super serious about shipping schedules and deadlines, and produced all its contributions on time. Image, on the other hand, was notorious for its ScheduleSlip, so, the Valiant half of ''Deathmate'' was produced on time, but the Image half was produced late. (Creator/RobLiefeld produced his issue, ''Deathmate Red'', a year late, and his contribution to the Valiant-published Prologue issue was completed only after Valiant editor-in-chief Bob Layton came to his house, [[TheThingThatWouldNotLeave refused to leave until it was done done]] and inked it in a hotel room.)
30th May '16 9:06:35 PM vexer
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So, having arranged the crossover, called ''Deathmate'', each company gets to work. Billed as "THE BIGGEST CROSS-OVER EVENT IN THE HISTORY OF COMICS!!" ''Deathmate'' was doomed from the start. Designated by color rather than issue numbers (namely Yellow, Blue, Black, and Red) plus two book-end issues, "Deathmate Prologue" and "Deathmate Epilogue", the four main issues were written so they (in theory) could be read in any order. In practice, however, they were a disjointed and [[ContinuitySnarl snarled]] mess, not at all helped by the Valiant side keeping a tight editorial leash, and the Image side letting the writers and artists do whatever they wanted.

The premise behind ''Deathmate'' was weak to begin with: ''[[ComicBook/DoctorSolar Solar: Man of the Atom]]'', and ''ComicBook/WildCATs''' Void met, had sex, and this "begins to unravel the strands of time, creating an AlternateUniverse where Image and Valiant characters exist side by side".

If the weak premise wasn't bad enough, Valiant's and Image's writers knew nothing about the other company's characters, resulting in a ton of CharacterDerailment, even though most of Image's side barely qualified as "characters" to begin with. The art, done in the over-the-top Image style, was disgusting to behold, and to top it all off, Deathmate may have been responsible for UsefulNotes/TheGreatComicsCrashOf1996.

You see, Valiant (as a byproduct of its unique real-time continuity system) was super serious about shipping schedules and deadlines, and produced all its contributions on time. Image, on the other hand, was notorious for its ScheduleSlip, so, the Valiant half of ''Deathmate'' was produced on time, but the Image half was produced late. (Creator/RobLiefeld produced his issue, ''Deathmate Red'', a year late, and his contribution to the Valiant-published Prologue issue was completed only after Valiant editor-in-chief Bob Layton came to his house, refused to leave until it was done and inked it in a hotel room.)

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So, having arranged the crossover, called ''Deathmate'', each company gets to work. Billed as "THE BIGGEST CROSS-OVER EVENT IN THE HISTORY OF COMICS!!" ''Deathmate'' was doomed from the start. Designated by color rather than issue numbers (namely Yellow, Blue, Black, and Red) plus two book-end issues, "Deathmate Prologue" and "Deathmate Epilogue", the four main issues were written so they (in theory) could be read in any order. In practice, however, they were a disjointed and [[ContinuitySnarl snarled]] mess, not at all helped by the Valiant side keeping a tight editorial leash, and the Image side letting the writers and artists do whatever they wanted.

The premise behind ''Deathmate'' was weak to begin with: ''[[ComicBook/DoctorSolar Solar: Man of the Atom]]'', and ''ComicBook/WildCATs''' Void met, had sex, and this "begins to unravel the strands of time, creating an AlternateUniverse where Image and Valiant characters exist side by side".

If the weak premise wasn't bad enough, Valiant's and Image's writers knew nothing about the other company's characters, resulting in a ton of CharacterDerailment, even though most of Image's side barely qualified as "characters" to begin with. The art, done in the over-the-top Image style, was disgusting to behold, and to top it all off, Deathmate may have been responsible for UsefulNotes/TheGreatComicsCrashOf1996.

CharacterDerailment. You see, Valiant (as a byproduct of its unique real-time continuity system) was super serious about shipping schedules and deadlines, and produced all its contributions on time. Image, on the other hand, was notorious for its ScheduleSlip, so, the Valiant half of ''Deathmate'' was produced on time, but the Image half was produced late. (Creator/RobLiefeld produced his issue, ''Deathmate Red'', a year late, and his contribution to the Valiant-published Prologue issue was completed only after Valiant editor-in-chief Bob Layton came to his house, refused to leave until it was done and inked it in a hotel room.)



Not ever to be confused with ''Manga/DeathNote'', which thankfully had a set schedule, cohesion, and didn't end up crippling its own medium.

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Not ever to be confused with ''Manga/DeathNote'', which thankfully had a set schedule, cohesion, and didn't end up crippling its own medium.
''Manga/DeathNote''.
10th Mar '16 9:22:20 PM KingClark
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