History Comicbook / DeathMate

30th May '16 9:06:35 PM vexer
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So, having arranged the crossover, called ''Deathmate'', each company gets to work. Billed as "THE BIGGEST CROSS-OVER EVENT IN THE HISTORY OF COMICS!!" ''Deathmate'' was doomed from the start. Designated by color rather than issue numbers (namely Yellow, Blue, Black, and Red) plus two book-end issues, "Deathmate Prologue" and "Deathmate Epilogue", the four main issues were written so they (in theory) could be read in any order. In practice, however, they were a disjointed and [[ContinuitySnarl snarled]] mess, not at all helped by the Valiant side keeping a tight editorial leash, and the Image side letting the writers and artists do whatever they wanted.

The premise behind ''Deathmate'' was weak to begin with: ''[[ComicBook/DoctorSolar Solar: Man of the Atom]]'', and ''ComicBook/WildCATs''' Void met, had sex, and this "begins to unravel the strands of time, creating an AlternateUniverse where Image and Valiant characters exist side by side".

If the weak premise wasn't bad enough, Valiant's and Image's writers knew nothing about the other company's characters, resulting in a ton of CharacterDerailment, even though most of Image's side barely qualified as "characters" to begin with. The art, done in the over-the-top Image style, was disgusting to behold, and to top it all off, Deathmate may have been responsible for UsefulNotes/TheGreatComicsCrashOf1996.

You see, Valiant (as a byproduct of its unique real-time continuity system) was super serious about shipping schedules and deadlines, and produced all its contributions on time. Image, on the other hand, was notorious for its ScheduleSlip, so, the Valiant half of ''Deathmate'' was produced on time, but the Image half was produced late. (Creator/RobLiefeld produced his issue, ''Deathmate Red'', a year late, and his contribution to the Valiant-published Prologue issue was completed only after Valiant editor-in-chief Bob Layton came to his house, refused to leave until it was done and inked it in a hotel room.)

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So, having arranged the crossover, called ''Deathmate'', each company gets to work. Billed as "THE BIGGEST CROSS-OVER EVENT IN THE HISTORY OF COMICS!!" ''Deathmate'' was doomed from the start. Designated by color rather than issue numbers (namely Yellow, Blue, Black, and Red) plus two book-end issues, "Deathmate Prologue" and "Deathmate Epilogue", the four main issues were written so they (in theory) could be read in any order. In practice, however, they were a disjointed and [[ContinuitySnarl snarled]] mess, not at all helped by the Valiant side keeping a tight editorial leash, and the Image side letting the writers and artists do whatever they wanted.

The premise behind ''Deathmate'' was weak to begin with: ''[[ComicBook/DoctorSolar Solar: Man of the Atom]]'', and ''ComicBook/WildCATs''' Void met, had sex, and this "begins to unravel the strands of time, creating an AlternateUniverse where Image and Valiant characters exist side by side".

If the weak premise wasn't bad enough, Valiant's and Image's writers knew nothing about the other company's characters, resulting in a ton of CharacterDerailment, even though most of Image's side barely qualified as "characters" to begin with. The art, done in the over-the-top Image style, was disgusting to behold, and to top it all off, Deathmate may have been responsible for UsefulNotes/TheGreatComicsCrashOf1996.

CharacterDerailment. You see, Valiant (as a byproduct of its unique real-time continuity system) was super serious about shipping schedules and deadlines, and produced all its contributions on time. Image, on the other hand, was notorious for its ScheduleSlip, so, the Valiant half of ''Deathmate'' was produced on time, but the Image half was produced late. (Creator/RobLiefeld produced his issue, ''Deathmate Red'', a year late, and his contribution to the Valiant-published Prologue issue was completed only after Valiant editor-in-chief Bob Layton came to his house, refused to leave until it was done and inked it in a hotel room.)



Not ever to be confused with ''Manga/DeathNote'', which thankfully had a set schedule, cohesion, and didn't end up crippling its own medium.

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Not ever to be confused with ''Manga/DeathNote'', which thankfully had a set schedule, cohesion, and didn't end up crippling its own medium.
''Manga/DeathNote''.
10th Mar '16 9:22:20 PM KingClark
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In 2016, a new take on the ''[=DeathMate=]'' storyline was confirmed to be in the works - one that should hopefully avoid crashing the industry again.
6th Oct '15 5:23:06 AM StFan
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3rd Oct '15 1:23:23 AM Morgenthaler
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24th Sep '15 1:00:55 PM eroock
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-> '''Their love will end worlds!'''

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-> '''Their ->''"Their love will end worlds!'''worlds!"''
17th Sep '15 8:56:48 AM StFan
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-->-- ''Death Mate'' advertisement; it proved [[CreatorKiller to be right in an]] [[HilariousInHindsight ironic way]].

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-->-- ''Death Mate'' ''Deathmate'' advertisement; it proved [[CreatorKiller to be right in an]] [[HilariousInHindsight ironic way]].



So, having arranged the crossover, called "Deathmate", each company gets to work. Billed as "THE BIGGEST CROSS-OVER EVENT IN THE HISTORY OF COMICS!!" Deathmate was doomed from the start. Designated by color rather than issue numbers (namely Yellow, Blue, Black, and Red) plus two book-end issues, "Deathmate Prologue" and "Deathmate Epilogue", the four main issues were written so they (in theory) could be read in any order. In practice, however, they were a disjointed and [[ContinuitySnarl snarled]] mess, not at all helped by the Valiant side keeping a tight editorial leash, and the Image side letting the writers and artists do whatever they wanted.

The premise behind Deathmate was weak to begin with: ''[[ComicBook/DoctorSolar Solar: Man of the Atom]]'', and ''ComicBook/WildCATs''' Void met, had sex, and this "begins to unravel the strands of time, creating an AlternateUniverse where Image and Valiant characters exist side by side".

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So, having arranged the crossover, called "Deathmate", ''Deathmate'', each company gets to work. Billed as "THE BIGGEST CROSS-OVER EVENT IN THE HISTORY OF COMICS!!" Deathmate ''Deathmate'' was doomed from the start. Designated by color rather than issue numbers (namely Yellow, Blue, Black, and Red) plus two book-end issues, "Deathmate Prologue" and "Deathmate Epilogue", the four main issues were written so they (in theory) could be read in any order. In practice, however, they were a disjointed and [[ContinuitySnarl snarled]] mess, not at all helped by the Valiant side keeping a tight editorial leash, and the Image side letting the writers and artists do whatever they wanted.

The premise behind Deathmate ''Deathmate'' was weak to begin with: ''[[ComicBook/DoctorSolar Solar: Man of the Atom]]'', and ''ComicBook/WildCATs''' Void met, had sex, and this "begins to unravel the strands of time, creating an AlternateUniverse where Image and Valiant characters exist side by side".



You see, Valiant (as a byproduct of its unique real-time continuity system) was super serious about shipping schedules and deadlines, and produced all its contributions on time. Image, on the other hand, was notorious for its ScheduleSlip, so, the Valiant half of Deathmate was produced on time, but the Image half was produced late. (Creator/RobLiefeld produced his issue, Deathmate Red, a year late, and his contribution to the Valiant-published Prologue issue was completed only after Valiant editor-in-chief Bob Layton came to his house, refused to leave until it was done and inked it in a hotel room.)

By the time the Image half came out, interest in it had dried up, but shop owners had pre-ordered massive numbers of issues when the cross-over had started, and were now left with mountains of unsellable comics. This, more than any other single event, contributed to the collapse of the comic industry in the '90s. Deathmate was also one of the events that lead to the fall of Valiant Comics, as it flooded the company with Image artists, and caused a fundamental shift in the way the company was run.

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You see, Valiant (as a byproduct of its unique real-time continuity system) was super serious about shipping schedules and deadlines, and produced all its contributions on time. Image, on the other hand, was notorious for its ScheduleSlip, so, the Valiant half of Deathmate ''Deathmate'' was produced on time, but the Image half was produced late. (Creator/RobLiefeld produced his issue, Deathmate Red, ''Deathmate Red'', a year late, and his contribution to the Valiant-published Prologue issue was completed only after Valiant editor-in-chief Bob Layton came to his house, refused to leave until it was done and inked it in a hotel room.)

By the time the Image half came out, interest in it had dried up, but shop owners had pre-ordered massive numbers of issues when the cross-over had started, and were now left with mountains of unsellable unsaleable comics. This, more than any other single event, contributed to the collapse of the comic industry in the '90s. Deathmate ''Deathmate'' was also one of the events that lead to the fall of Valiant Comics, as it flooded the company with Image artists, and caused a fundamental shift in the way the company was run.






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* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: Many subplots are left unresolved such as Ivar and Adam going to the past to find the Geomancer of that era, or Magnus trying to kill Battlestone and overthrowing Toyo Harada. [[spoiler: The destruction of the combined universe means these plotlines will never be resolved.]]

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* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: Many subplots are left unresolved such as Ivar and Adam going to the past to find the Geomancer of that era, or Magnus trying to kill Battlestone and overthrowing Toyo Harada. [[spoiler: The destruction of the combined universe means these plotlines will never be resolved.]]]]
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10th Jul '15 3:24:08 AM LahmacunKebab
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* CanonWelding: Due to Doctor Solar and Void making out in Unreality, the Image Comics and Valiant Comics universe combine.
* CrossOver: Of Image Comics and Valiant Comics

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* CanonWelding: Due to Doctor Solar and Void making out in Unreality, the Image Comics and Valiant Comics universe universes combine.
* CrossOver: Of Image Comics and Valiant ComicsComics.



* LegacyCharacter: The Geomancers
* PunnyName: Mother May I

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* LegacyCharacter: The Geomancers
Geomancers.
* PunnyName: Mother May II.



* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: Many subplots are left unresolved such as Ivar and Adam going to the past to find the Geomancer of that era, Magnus trying to kill Battlestone and overthrowing Toyo Harada. [[spoiler: The destruction of the combined universe means these plotlines will never be resolved.]]

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* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: Many subplots are left unresolved such as Ivar and Adam going to the past to find the Geomancer of that era, or Magnus trying to kill Battlestone and overthrowing Toyo Harada. [[spoiler: The destruction of the combined universe means these plotlines will never be resolved.]]
10th Jul '15 2:51:58 AM LahmacunKebab
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The premise behind Deathmate was weak to begin with: ''[[ComicBook/DoctorSolar Solar: Man of the Atom]]'', and ''ComicBook/WildCATs' '' Void met, had sex, and this "begins to unravel the strands of time, creating an AlternateUniverse where Image and Valiant characters exist side by side".

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The premise behind Deathmate was weak to begin with: ''[[ComicBook/DoctorSolar Solar: Man of the Atom]]'', and ''ComicBook/WildCATs' '' ''ComicBook/WildCATs''' Void met, had sex, and this "begins to unravel the strands of time, creating an AlternateUniverse where Image and Valiant characters exist side by side".
10th Jul '15 2:51:20 AM LahmacunKebab
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So, having arranged the crossover, called "Deathmate", each company gets to work. Billed as "THE BIGGEST CROSS-OVER EVENT IN THE HISTORY OF COMICS!!" Deathmate was doomed from the start. Designated by color rather than issue numbers (namely Yellow, Blue, Black, and Red) plus two book-end issues, "Deathmate Prologue" and "Deathmate Epilogue", the four main issues were written so they (In theory) could be read in any order. In practice, however, they were a disjointed and [[ContinuitySnarl snarled]] mess, not at all helped by the Valiant side keeping a tight editorial leash, and the Image side letting the writers and artists do whatever they wanted.

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So, having arranged the crossover, called "Deathmate", each company gets to work. Billed as "THE BIGGEST CROSS-OVER EVENT IN THE HISTORY OF COMICS!!" Deathmate was doomed from the start. Designated by color rather than issue numbers (namely Yellow, Blue, Black, and Red) plus two book-end issues, "Deathmate Prologue" and "Deathmate Epilogue", the four main issues were written so they (In (in theory) could be read in any order. In practice, however, they were a disjointed and [[ContinuitySnarl snarled]] mess, not at all helped by the Valiant side keeping a tight editorial leash, and the Image side letting the writers and artists do whatever they wanted.
22nd Jun '15 6:54:30 PM igordebraga
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-->-- ''Death Mate'' advertisement; it proved to be right in an [[HilariousInHindsight ironic way]].

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-->-- ''Death Mate'' advertisement; it proved [[CreatorKiller to be right in an an]] [[HilariousInHindsight ironic way]].
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