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16th Mar '17 12:50:13 PM lalalei2001
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* ForWantOfANail: Creator/WarrenEllis's alternate universe ''Ruins'', where everything that could go wrong ''[[CrapsackWorld did]]''.

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* ForWantOfANail: Creator/WarrenEllis's alternate universe ''Ruins'', ''ComicBook/{{Ruins}}'', where everything that could go wrong ''[[CrapsackWorld did]]''.
16th Mar '17 12:08:36 PM CaptainTedium
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* ''Ruins'' (Aug-Sep 1995), a CrapsackWorld version by WarrenEllis

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* ''Ruins'' ''ComicBook/{{Ruins}}'' (Aug-Sep 1995), a CrapsackWorld version by WarrenEllis
21st Dec '16 5:03:33 PM SpideyTerry
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* YouAreWhatYouHate: When Phil learns about his daughters harboring a mutant girl, he looks in her eyes and compares it to the concentration camp survivors he met during the war. He realizes the anti-mutant bigotry he participated in is no different than the Nazis.
16th Dec '16 11:03:28 AM Greenygal
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* TheEveryman: Phil Sheldon



** Also: Ross based his [[Franchise/XMen Professor X]] on Creator/PatrickStewart, much before the ''X-Men'' films.* TheEveryman: Phil Sheldon

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** Also: Ross based his [[Franchise/XMen Professor X]] on Creator/PatrickStewart, much before the ''X-Men'' films.* TheEveryman: Phil Sheldon (Stewart was a popular fantasy casting choice even when the movie was purely hypothetical.)
15th Dec '16 1:01:22 AM Doug86
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** When he was a cub reporter in WorldWar2 and before that, Phil worked alongside a buzz-cut, cigarette-chomping, superhero-hating cynic named [[ComicBook/SpiderMan J. Jonah Jameson]], determined to run the Bugle one day.

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** When he was a cub reporter in WorldWar2 UsefulNotes/WorldWarII and before that, Phil worked alongside a buzz-cut, cigarette-chomping, superhero-hating cynic named [[ComicBook/SpiderMan J. Jonah Jameson]], determined to run the Bugle one day.
27th Nov '16 12:00:25 PM Trooper924
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**At Alicia Master's art show, two old women discuss the Thing, noting that "at least he's not one of those horrible muties", just as Professor Xavier, Scott Summers, and Jean Grey happened to be walking by.
13th Oct '16 7:36:50 PM Eagal
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* TheEveryman: Phil Sheldon

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* TheEveryman: Phil SheldonEstrogenBrigade: In-universe, ComicBook/CaptainAmerica has an absolutely massive fan following of older women



* FantasticRacism / FantasticSlur: As is common with works relating to the X-Men. Complete with ridiculous claims of mutants enslaving humanity, paranoid riots, and more. The Fantastic Slur in question is, of course, mutie.

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* FantasticRacism / FantasticSlur: FantasticRacism: As is common with works relating to the X-Men. Complete with ridiculous claims of mutants enslaving humanity, paranoid riots, and more. The Fantastic Slur in question is, of course, mutie.more.
* FantasticSlur: Following with the FantasticRacism against Mutants, "mutie" gets used by their attackers.



* InnocentBystanderSeries

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* NamesTheSame:[[invoked]] Acknowledged with Phil Sheldon and Ben Urich's wives, who are both named Doris.

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** Peter Parker looks a lot like Creator/TobeyMaguire. The ''Film/SpiderManTrilogy'' movies have come out after the comic, so the possibility for the ''Marvels'' Pete to be based on the ''movies'' Pete is pretty unlikely. But it could be the other way around -- Maguire being a casting choice could be based on this comic alone.
** Also: Ross based his [[Franchise/XMen Professor X]] on Creator/PatrickStewart, much before the ''X-Men'' films.
* NamesTheSame:[[invoked]] Acknowledged with TheEveryman: Phil Sheldon and Ben Urich's wives, who are both named Doris.Sheldon
28th Aug '16 4:10:18 PM SpideyTerry
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* BrokenPedestal: Gwen's death causes Phil to lose faith in not just Spider-Man, but also other heroes in the city who didn't even try to help.
-->"He failed her. They all failed her."


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** To contrast how differently mutants and non-mutants are treated, Reed and Sue's wedding happens mere hours before the Sentinels are announced to the world.


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* HopeSpot: Phil hopes to write a book exonerating Spider-Man of George Stacey's death and hopes to use writings that Gwen can provide, but then he sees the Green Goblin emerge from her window. Happens again soon afterwards, as he observes Spider-Man arriving at the bridge and is so certain he can save Gwen.
* {{Hypocrite}}: The anti-mutant crowd harasses the X-Men around the corner from a store selling clothing inspired by the Wasp, someone with powers but not born with them.


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* ItsPersonal: Subverted after Phil loses an eye. He jokes about vowing revenge and becoming a villain to strike back, but he says he has more important things to concern himself with (his career and the wedding).


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* LittleNo: Phil when Gwen's neck is snapped.


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* PoliceAreUseless: Subverted. Phil can't believe the police would hold Spider-Man to blame for George Stacey's death, but he's surprised when the officers he talks to say they don't. They just want Spider-Man to come in for questioning since he was there; they're also certain that Doctor Octopus was responsible, based on the recovered evidence. In fact, they even blame Jonah for hyping it up as something more than this.


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* RedShirt: Invoked and deconstructed. Phil takes Gwen's death very hard because he knew her, but she was just a name to the rest of the world. Phil can't believe that her death didn't seem to mean anything to anyone else or even warrant a front page article. His disgust with this is one of the things that makes him realize he's become part of the story and can no longer cover it.


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* SupermanStaysOutOfGotham: Deconstructed. Spider-Man fails to save Gwen in a city where numerous other super-powered beings live. Phil even makes a point of thinking to himself, "They hadn't saved her."


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* UngratefulBastard: How Phil sees the people after the Fantastic Four stop Galactus. When the situation was in progress, many were panicking and pleading for salvation. After the FF save the day, Phil notices how quickly those same people were either criticizing how the FF handled the situation or flat-out calling the whole thing a hoax. Phil highlights other examples of similar ingratitude that follow this event.
21st Aug '16 12:05:08 PM nombretomado
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** Maggie, the skull-faced mutant girl, is based on an identical character from an issue of ECComics' ''Weird Science''.

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** Maggie, the skull-faced mutant girl, is based on an identical character from an issue of ECComics' Creator/ECComics' ''Weird Science''.
14th Jul '16 7:09:15 AM Berrenta
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* TheMerch: Partially subverted, as ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} (the foremost Marvel Comics vehicle) is completely absent, (as he was not yet featured in the Marvel comics canon -he does show up in the sequel-) yet the X-Men are not; other huge Marvel vehicles such as ComicBook/SpiderMan, ComicBook/CaptainAmerica and the ComicBook/IncredibleHulk do show up.
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