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* HeroOfAnotherStory: Bao and Vibiana. Justified in that they're the main characters of two separate books.
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** Yu, the guy who tries to take more dumplings than he's paid for [[spoiler: and who brings Father Bey into the village]] is a more clear-cut example, as is the German diplomat who beats Bing Wong-BingWong-Bing.
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*GrayAndGreyMoralityGrayAndGreyMorality: Neither the Society members nor the Europeans and their Chinese allies come across particularly well, by the time both books end.
* JerkAss: how Father Bey comes across in "Boxers." In "Saints" he's more of a JerkWithAHeartOfGold.
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* JerkAss: how Father Bey comes across in "Boxers." In "Saints" he's more of a JerkWithAHeartOfGold.
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* OhCrap: [[spoiler: when the Society burns the library down in order to get access to the European quarter...only to notice that the Europeans are smiling at them. Cue a squad of Sepoys pointing their guns at them...]]
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* DefeatMeansFriendship: After sparing the life of a general, magistrate, he tags along for the rest of the books.books. However, it's less that he and Bao become friends, and more that he doesn't want to die and he has information and connections that Bao wants
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Please present all Complete Monster candidates in this thread.
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* CompleteMonster: [[spoiler: Baron von Ketteler, who attempted murder on Bing Wong-Bing.]]
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* ChekhovsGunman: Vibiana in Boxers, [[spoiler: and the girl on the train who later kills one of Little Bao's brothers in retaliation for her father dying.]]
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* ChekhovsGunman: Vibiana in Boxers, [[spoiler: and the girl on from the train who later kills one of Little Bao's brothers in retaliation for her father dying.]]
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The story is an epic and mystical take on the Boxer Rebellion of China, which occured around the year of 1898.
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The story is an epic and mystical take on the Boxer Rebellion of China, which occured occurred around the year of 1898.
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* DemonHead: Vibiana makes this face to express her 'demonic taint'. Little Bao compares it to the face of an opera mask.
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* DemonHead: Vibiana makes this face to express her 'demonic taint'. Little Bao compares it to the face of an opera mask.mask and [[RuleOfFunny says because of it they will marry and have many opera mask faced sons]].
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* ActionGirl: Mei, Vibiana, all of the Red Lanterns.
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* [[spoiler: Moral Event Horizon: When Little Bao killed the girl from the train, it all went downhill.]]
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Saints takes on another perspective, starring Four-Girl, who is a girl from the same village, who that joins the foreign devils and becomes a Chinese Christian who Christian. She takes on the name of Vibiana.
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* KillItWithFire: [[spoiler: All of the women and children praying in the church, as well as Mei Wen and the foreign scholar in the library.]]
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* UsedToBeASweetKid: [[spoiler: Little Bao.]]
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Boxers starts stars a young boy named Little Bao, who respects his country's culture and wishes to drive the foreign devils from China. It follows him throughout his journey from being a simple boy, to becoming a leader of the Boxer Rebellion.
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* TheMentor: Red Lantern Chu and Master Big Belly.
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*YouAreNumberSix: Four-Girl.
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Boxers starts a young boy named Little Bao, who respects his country's culture and wishes to drive the foreign devils from China. It follows him throughout his journey from being a simple boy, to becoming a...leader.
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needed a page, i dont have the books on hand right now so much of this is missing information (i dont even remember some of the characters names), sorry!
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->"''Support the Ching! Destroy the Foreigner!''"
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[[caption-width-right:350:For China!]]
Boxers and Saints are two historical fiction companion novels written by Gene Luen Yang, released together on September 10, 2013.
The story is an epic and mystical take on the Boxer Rebellion of China, which occured around the year of 1898.
Boxers starts a young boy named Little Bao, who respects his country's culture and wishes to drive the foreign devils from China. It follows him throughout his journey from being a simple boy, to becoming a...leader.
Saints takes on another perspective, starring Four-Girl, who is a girl from the same village, who joins the foreign devils and becomes a Chinese Christian who takes on the name of Vibiana.
These two novels tie in together in a lot of places, but they can each be enjoyed individually and by themselves, if you don't care about the subtleties.
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!!These books provide examples of:
*TheAce: Red Lantern Chu.
*AntiHero: The heroes of both books.
**[[spoiler: AntiVillain: Little Bao becomes one, eventually.]]
*ArcSymbol: Eyes.
*AwesomeMcCoolName: The Society of Righteous and Harmonious Fists, Vibiana (only because she chose it herself), and Red Lantern all have arguably really cool names.
*BFS: What the Big Sword Society is named after.
*ChekhovsGunman: Vibiana in Boxers, [[spoiler: and the girl on the train who later kills one of Little Bao's brothers in retaliation for her father dying.]]
*CompleteMonster: [[spoiler: Baron von Ketteler, who attempted murder on Bing Wong-Bing.]]
*CoolOldGuy: Master Big Belly, arguably.
*DefeatMeansFriendship: After sparing the life of a general, he tags along for the rest of the books.
*DeliberatelyMonochrome: Saints.
**[[spoiler: FlashbackEffect.]]
*[[spoiler: DownerEnding: In Boxers, the last image you see is Little Bao lying on the ground, bleeding out.]]
*FailOSuckyName: Four-Girl.
*FatBastard: Master Big Belly. [[spoiler: Or at least, that's how Bao sees it.]]
*FourIsDeath: Part of the reason behind Vibiana's family issues.
**[[spoiler: FormerlyFat: He loses all the fat after using his mystic vision.]]
*GrayAndGreyMorality
*KilledOffForReal: [[spoiler: Nearly every major character in both books, barring Bao.]]
*LadyInRed: [[spoiler: Mei when transformed into Mu Gui-ying.]]
*LaResistance: The Society of Righteous and Harmonious Fists, and the Red Lanterns.
*LoveInterest: Mei in Boxers.
*NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: The Society of Righteous and Harmonious Fists, Red Lanterns, Foreign and Secondary Devils.
*PlayingWithFire: [[spoiler: Little Bao, both literally and figuratively.]]
[[spoiler: *PosthumousNarration: Vibiana in Saints.]]
*SignificantGreenEyedRedhead: The girl on the train.
**[[spoiler: EvilRedhead: From the Boxers' perspective, although she was just getting revenge when she shot Bao's brother.]]
*SuperMode: The possessed forms of the Society of Righteous and Harmonious Fists and Red Lanterns.
**[[spoiler: SuperpoweredEvilSide: What these forms could be likened to from the right perspective. Especially Little Bao when possessed by Ch'in Shih Huang.]]
*SympatheticMurderer: [[spoiler: Little Bao and the rest of the Society of Righteous and Harmonious Fists.]]
*RedIsHeroic: Red Lantern Chu, and the colors the Red Lanterns chose to symbolize themselves.
*TagalongKid: Initially Little Bao, then Bing Wong-Bing late into Boxers.
*WellIntentionedExtremist: [[spoiler: Little Bao, eventually. The author even likens him to a terrorist near the end.]]
*YinYangClash: Yin is believed to be basically poisonous.
*[[spoilers: Your Terrorists Are Our Freedom Fighters]]
[[quoteright:350:http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/rsz_11rsz_boxers_and_saints_2751.jpg]]
[[caption-width-right:350:For China!]]
Boxers and Saints are two historical fiction companion novels written by Gene Luen Yang, released together on September 10, 2013.
The story is an epic and mystical take on the Boxer Rebellion of China, which occured around the year of 1898.
Boxers starts a young boy named Little Bao, who respects his country's culture and wishes to drive the foreign devils from China. It follows him throughout his journey from being a simple boy, to becoming a...leader.
Saints takes on another perspective, starring Four-Girl, who is a girl from the same village, who joins the foreign devils and becomes a Chinese Christian who takes on the name of Vibiana.
These two novels tie in together in a lot of places, but they can each be enjoyed individually and by themselves, if you don't care about the subtleties.
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!!These books provide examples of:
*TheAce: Red Lantern Chu.
*AntiHero: The heroes of both books.
**[[spoiler: AntiVillain: Little Bao becomes one, eventually.]]
*ArcSymbol: Eyes.
*AwesomeMcCoolName: The Society of Righteous and Harmonious Fists, Vibiana (only because she chose it herself), and Red Lantern all have arguably really cool names.
*BFS: What the Big Sword Society is named after.
*ChekhovsGunman: Vibiana in Boxers, [[spoiler: and the girl on the train who later kills one of Little Bao's brothers in retaliation for her father dying.]]
*CompleteMonster: [[spoiler: Baron von Ketteler, who attempted murder on Bing Wong-Bing.]]
*CoolOldGuy: Master Big Belly, arguably.
*DefeatMeansFriendship: After sparing the life of a general, he tags along for the rest of the books.
*DeliberatelyMonochrome: Saints.
**[[spoiler: FlashbackEffect.]]
*[[spoiler: DownerEnding: In Boxers, the last image you see is Little Bao lying on the ground, bleeding out.]]
*FailOSuckyName: Four-Girl.
*FatBastard: Master Big Belly. [[spoiler: Or at least, that's how Bao sees it.]]
*FourIsDeath: Part of the reason behind Vibiana's family issues.
**[[spoiler: FormerlyFat: He loses all the fat after using his mystic vision.]]
*GrayAndGreyMorality
*KilledOffForReal: [[spoiler: Nearly every major character in both books, barring Bao.]]
*LadyInRed: [[spoiler: Mei when transformed into Mu Gui-ying.]]
*LaResistance: The Society of Righteous and Harmonious Fists, and the Red Lanterns.
*LoveInterest: Mei in Boxers.
*NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: The Society of Righteous and Harmonious Fists, Red Lanterns, Foreign and Secondary Devils.
*PlayingWithFire: [[spoiler: Little Bao, both literally and figuratively.]]
[[spoiler: *PosthumousNarration: Vibiana in Saints.]]
*SignificantGreenEyedRedhead: The girl on the train.
**[[spoiler: EvilRedhead: From the Boxers' perspective, although she was just getting revenge when she shot Bao's brother.]]
*SuperMode: The possessed forms of the Society of Righteous and Harmonious Fists and Red Lanterns.
**[[spoiler: SuperpoweredEvilSide: What these forms could be likened to from the right perspective. Especially Little Bao when possessed by Ch'in Shih Huang.]]
*SympatheticMurderer: [[spoiler: Little Bao and the rest of the Society of Righteous and Harmonious Fists.]]
*RedIsHeroic: Red Lantern Chu, and the colors the Red Lanterns chose to symbolize themselves.
*TagalongKid: Initially Little Bao, then Bing Wong-Bing late into Boxers.
*WellIntentionedExtremist: [[spoiler: Little Bao, eventually. The author even likens him to a terrorist near the end.]]
*YinYangClash: Yin is believed to be basically poisonous.
*[[spoilers: Your Terrorists Are Our Freedom Fighters]]
