History CombatPragmatist / LiveActionTV

27th Dec '17 9:04:26 AM gb00393
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** When Bronn wins his fight as Tyrion Lannister's champion by tiring out his opponent with hit and run tactics instead of straight up dueling him, Lysa Arryn reproaches him: "You do not fight with honor." Bronn indicates his slain adversary and answers: "No. He did." When Bronn is called to retrain Jamie Lannister so he can learn how to fight while missing a hand, Bronn tries to teach him how to fight pragmatically, like attacking an opponent who isn't ready, but Jaime finds it in poor taste.

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** When Bronn doesn't believe in fighting fair, because he realizes that winning a battle depends on killing your opponent, not making it look noble. This earns him the contempt of some more traditional people who believe he's just fighting dirty.
*** When he
wins his fight as Tyrion Lannister's champion by tiring out his opponent with hit and run tactics instead of straight up dueling him, Lysa Arryn reproaches him: "You do not fight with honor." Bronn indicates his slain adversary and answers: "No. He did." "
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When Bronn is called to retrain Jamie Lannister so he can learn how to fight while missing a hand, Bronn tries to teach him how to fight pragmatically, like attacking an opponent who isn't ready, ready. He tosses Jaime a blunted practice sword for their sparring and smacks Jaime's hand when he stoops to pick it up. Jaime protests he attacked when he wasn't on his guard; Bronn retorts that's the best time to attack, but Jaime finds it in poor taste.taste.
*** He refuses to wear the customary uniform of the City Watch after being appointed as commander. His simple explanation: capes slow you down in a fight.
*** He kills a Dothraki warrior who was fixated on killing him by using a ballista.
*** He never wears anything heavier than leather, which probably saves his life when he falls into the water during the battle against the Dothraki, while fully-armored Jaime is seen drowning before the screen fades to black.
22nd Dec '17 6:28:46 AM windleopard
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''Series/PowerRangersLightspeedRescue,'': Carter Grayson the Red Ranger. In the first episode he tries to run over the Batlings AND demons with a Humvee and is far quicker to draw a gun than most other Red Rangers who prefer flashy close quarters combat.

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* ''Series/PowerRangersLightspeedRescue,'': Carter Grayson the Red Ranger. In the first episode he tries to run over the Batlings AND demons with a Humvee and is far quicker to draw a gun than most other Red Rangers who prefer flashy close quarters combat.
22nd Dec '17 6:28:05 AM windleopard
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''Series/PowerRangersLightspeedRescue,'': Carter Grayson the Red Ranger. In the first episode he tries to run over the Batlings AND demons with a Humvee and is far quicker to draw a gun than most other Red Rangers who prefer flashy close quarters combat.
15th Dec '17 11:09:07 AM SasquatchJim
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* Frank Castle in ''Series/ThePunisher'' is a massive combat pragmatist, just like his comic-book counterpart. When combined with his insane durability, it allows him to rip his opponents to shreds.
15th Dec '17 11:06:28 AM SasquatchJim
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* {{Series/Banshee}} features Sheriff Lucas Hood, a hardened criminal who learned to fight in prison. He is also a ''ludicrously'' brutal fighter, with his fight against rapist and MMA champion Sanchez showcasing [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqRPaucl8r4 his full arsenal.]]

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* {{Series/Banshee}} ''{{Series/Banshee}}'' features Sheriff Lucas Hood, a hardened criminal who learned to fight in prison. He is also a ''ludicrously'' brutal fighter, with his fight against rapist and MMA champion Sanchez showcasing [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqRPaucl8r4 his full arsenal.]]
15th Dec '17 11:05:54 AM SasquatchJim
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* {{Series/Banshee}} features Sheriff Lucas Hood, a hardened criminal who learned to fight in prison. He is also a ''ludicrously'' brutal fighter, with his fight against rapist and MMA champion Sanchez showcasing [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqRPaucl8r4 his full arsenal.]]
9th Dec '17 4:09:10 AM lillolillo
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* ''Series/{{Smallville}}'': [[{{Superman}} Clark Kent]] of all people does not believe in a fair fight. His usual strategy boils down to "clock you in the head from behind at 500 miles an hour." [[DarkActionGirl Tess Mercer]] is just as bad, if not worse.

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* ''Series/{{Smallville}}'': [[{{Superman}} [[Franchise/{{Superman}} Clark Kent]] of all people does not believe in a fair fight. His usual strategy boils down to "clock you in the head from behind at 500 miles an hour." hour", a tactic [[ComicBook/{{Supergirl}} his cousin Kara]] is also fond of. [[DarkActionGirl Tess Mercer]] is just as bad, if not worse.



-->'''Reynolds:''' Huh.
-->'''O'Neill:''' That's odd.
-->'''Reynolds:''' Yeah.
-->''(Both shrug and resume firing)''

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-->'''Reynolds:''' Huh.
-->'''O'Neill:'''
Huh.\\
'''O'Neill:'''
That's odd.
-->'''Reynolds:''' Yeah.
-->''(Both
odd.\\
'''Reynolds:''' Yeah.\\
''(Both
shrug and resume firing)''



-->'''Odo:''' 'You'd shoot a man in the back?'
-->'''Garak:''' 'Well, it's the safest way, isn't it?'

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-->'''Odo:''' 'You'd shoot a man in the back?'
-->'''Garak:'''
back?'\\
'''Garak:'''
'Well, it's the safest way, isn't it?'



-->'''Mobar:''' [[StrawVulcan Logic would indicate that neither of us has the advantage.]]
-->'''Tuvok:''' [[PreasskickingOneLiner Your logic... is flawed.]] ''([[BlindedByTheLight shines a light in Mobar's eyes]] and stuns him)''

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-->'''Mobar:''' --->'''Mobar:''' [[StrawVulcan Logic would indicate that neither of us has the advantage.]]
-->'''Tuvok:'''
]]\\
'''Tuvok:'''
[[PreasskickingOneLiner Your logic... is flawed.]] ''([[BlindedByTheLight shines a light in Mobar's eyes]] and stuns him)''him)''
* ''Series/Supergirl2015'':
** In [[Recap/Supergirl2015S2E13MrAndMrsMxyzptlk "Mr. and Mrs. Mxyzptlk"]], Mon-El wastes no time firing his weapon at Mxyzptlk before their duel has actually begun. Unfortunately, the Imp was prepared for it.
** In [[Recap/Supergirl2015S3E6Midvale "Midvale"]], it's shown teen [[ComicBook/{{Supergirl}} Kara Danvers]] was an advocate of the "knocking them out from behind before they realize you're coming" approach.
4th Nov '17 9:34:55 AM Malady
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* ''Series/{{The 100}}'': In most instances, no one on this show is able to fight fair if they want to survive but special mention goes to Clarke's fight with Anya. Over the course of the fight, Clarke throws ashes into Anya's eyes, pulls a knife on her unarmed opponent, and finally gains the upper hand by digging her fingers into an open wound that Anya had gotten earlier.

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* ''Series/{{The 100}}'': ''Series/The100'': In most instances, no one on this show is able to fight fair if they want to survive but special mention goes to Clarke's fight with Anya. Over the course of the fight, Clarke throws ashes into Anya's eyes, pulls a knife on her unarmed opponent, and finally gains the upper hand by digging her fingers into an open wound that Anya had gotten earlier.



* In ''{{Deadwood}}'' this trope is omnipresent, resulting in very short confrontations, the majority involving guns. One of the most violent characters [[LampshadeHanging hangs a lampshade]] on the avoidance of a fair fight, just after one had happened -- and even that was an extremely messy affair where the guy who was going for torture over the quick kill lost, despite having the advantage.

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* In ''{{Deadwood}}'' ''Series/{{Deadwood}}'' this trope is omnipresent, resulting in very short confrontations, the majority involving guns. One of the most violent characters [[LampshadeHanging hangs a lampshade]] on the avoidance of a fair fight, just after one had happened -- and even that was an extremely messy affair where the guy who was going for torture over the quick kill lost, despite having the advantage.
16th Jul '17 9:06:52 PM DesertDragon
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** In "The Mountain and the Viper", Arya declares that anyone who shuns a method of killing as dishonorable will never be a great killer.

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** Arya Stark becomes a fierce killing machine through copious application of this trope. Being a petite teenage girl, she knows she can't take on a grown man with years of combat experience in a fair fight, so she instead relies on sneak attacks, magic, and "the woman's weapon" (poison) to take down her foes before they even know they're a target. After watching her family (including her pregnant sister-in-law) get murdered in the aforementioned violation of Sacred Hospitality, she doesn't give two shits about honor. In "The Mountain and the Viper", Arya declares that anyone who shuns a method of killing as dishonorable will never be a great killer.
12th Jul '17 1:13:59 PM gb00393
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*** He asks Tyrion why killing 10,000 men in battle is more noble than murdering a dozen by violating SacredHospitality. Off course, he conveniently discounts the fact that said 10.000 were cowardly slaughtered too. What makes him a chessmaster here instead of an idiot that violated every principle of diplomacy and SacredHospitality in the worst way possible, however, is that he didn't take any active role in the matter he simply made some assurances to an already traitorous, ambitious, selfish ally of Robb Stark's, giving the betrayal a guaranteed reward if actually carried out; the actual betrayal, its nature, and all of the extreme diplomatic and cultural taboos involved were not Tywin's idea or something he had a direct hand in.

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*** He asks Tyrion why killing 10,000 men in battle is more noble than murdering a dozen by violating SacredHospitality. Off course, he conveniently discounts the fact that said 10.000 10,000 were cowardly slaughtered too. What makes him a chessmaster here instead of an idiot that violated every principle of diplomacy and SacredHospitality in the worst way possible, however, is that he didn't take any active role in the matter he simply made some assurances to an already traitorous, ambitious, selfish ally of Robb Stark's, giving the betrayal a guaranteed reward if actually carried out; the actual betrayal, its nature, and all of the extreme diplomatic and cultural taboos involved were not Tywin's idea or something he had a direct hand in.
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