History Characters / Warhammer40000ImperialFounders

21st May '18 1:54:40 PM MyssaRei
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* BattleTrophy: Most had some sort of collection of various trophies during the Great Crusade. Fulgrim presented Ferrus Manus' head to Horus during the Heresy and it is implied that Trazyn the Infinite has a primarch in stasis as part of his collection, likely Vulkan.

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* BattleTrophy: Most had some sort of collection of various trophies during the Great Crusade. Fulgrim presented Ferrus Manus' head to Horus during the Heresy and (during 5th Edition) it is was implied that Trazyn the Infinite has a primarch in stasis as part of his collection, likely Vulkan.collection (it wasn't).



* BadassInDistress: [[spoiler: Vulkan is hinted to be the man in baroque armor kept by Trazyn the Infinite]].

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* BadassInDistress: [[spoiler: Vulkan is hinted to be the man in baroque armor The 5th Necron Edition Codex implied [[spoiler:that he was kept by as part as Trazyn The Infinite's collection. In the Infinite]].wake of ''The Fall of Cadia'', this has since been retconned; the figure instead was a member of the Adeptus Custodes.]]



** Even newer material implies that he's still alive, in the care of [[spoiler:Trazyn the Infinite]].

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** Even newer material implies 5th Edition THEN dropped hints that he's still alive, in the care he was part of [[spoiler:Trazyn the Infinite]].Infinite's collection]]. The ''Fall of Cadia'' then proved that to not be the case.
16th May '18 2:38:30 AM Yukianesa
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* HonestAdvisor: He didn't mince words or hesitate to comment on (and ''criticize'') the Emperor's actions. Not only did he get away with it, but the Emperor ''appreciated'' it.

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* HonestAdvisor: He didn't mince words or hesitate to comment on (and ''criticize'') the Emperor's actions. Not only did he get away with it, but the Emperor ''appreciated'' it.it; it is implied this stems from the events described in ''The Last Church'', where a humble old Christian preacher deconstructed the Emperor's galactic ambitions with a TheReasonYouSuckSpeech and he promptly dropped the SmugSuper attitude and to listen to the words of the ordinary humans he was supposedly ruling in the interests of.
14th May '18 5:36:26 AM WillBGood
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14th May '18 5:32:54 AM WillBGood
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14th May '18 5:14:46 AM WillBGood
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14th May '18 4:06:56 AM WillBGood
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* BigGood: The Imperium has always viewed him as this, but the game use him to make this a DeconstructedTrope; while he most likely ''was'' the BigGood during the Literature/HorusHeresy, nowadays, he's basically been rendered as little more than a shriveled-up husk, only serving as little more than a symbolic figurehead, meant to keep the Imperium from fully collapsing in morale and structure, and the primary icon of religious worship by his subjects, to counter the corruptive daemonology of the Chaos gods. And even before that, he also happened to have [[WellIntentionedExtremist the biggest body count of any given human dictator in history.]] Depending on how you view it, the number has only grown, to the point that we'd save time by using scientific notation. At best, he's a case of GoodIsNotNice; tough to be called a good guy when you order whole intelligent races be [[WouldBeRudeToSayGenocide made extinct]], and he tends to care more about humanity as a whole (or as a concept) than any given human individual.

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* BigGood: The Imperium has always viewed him as this, but the game use him to make this a DeconstructedTrope; while he most likely ''was'' the BigGood during the Literature/HorusHeresy, nowadays, he's basically been rendered as little more than a shriveled-up husk, only serving as little more than a symbolic figurehead, meant to keep the Imperium from fully collapsing in morale and structure, and the primary icon of religious worship by his subjects, to counter the corruptive daemonology of the Chaos gods. And even before that, he also happened to have [[WellIntentionedExtremist the biggest body count of any given human dictator in history.]] Depending on how you view it, the number has only grown, grown to the point that we'd save time by using scientific notation. At best, he's a case of GoodIsNotNice; tough to be called a good guy when you order whole intelligent races be [[WouldBeRudeToSayGenocide made extinct]], and he tends to care more about humanity as a whole (or as a concept) than any given human individual.
10th May '18 5:58:46 PM Willbyr
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* HeroicSacrifice: In older editions, what was thought to have happened at the Battle of Thessala. In reality, Guilliman did none of the sort -- as ''Dark Imperium'' reveals, he in walked into Fulgrim's trap. Instead it was the sacrifice of countless Ultramarines, including the captain of the 1st Company, that allowed Aeonid Thiel to extract the mortally-wounded Guilliman, after which he was placed into stasis.

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* HeroicSacrifice: In older editions, what was thought to have happened at the Battle of Thessala. In reality, Guilliman did none of the sort -- as ''Dark Imperium'' reveals, he in walked into Fulgrim's trap. Instead it was the sacrifice of countless Ultramarines, including the captain of the 1st Company, that allowed Aeonid Thiel to extract the mortally-wounded Guilliman, after which he was placed into stasis.
10th May '18 1:22:52 PM MyssaRei
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* HeroicSacrifice: In older editions, what was thought to have happened at the Battle of Thessala. In reality, Guilliman did none of the sort -- as ''Dark Imperium'' reveals, he in walked into Fulgrim's trap. Instead it was the sacrifice of countless Ultramarines, including the captain of the 1st Company, that Aonid Thiel to extract the mortally-wounded Guilliman, after which he was placed into stasis.

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* HeroicSacrifice: In older editions, what was thought to have happened at the Battle of Thessala. In reality, Guilliman did none of the sort -- as ''Dark Imperium'' reveals, he in walked into Fulgrim's trap. Instead it was the sacrifice of countless Ultramarines, including the captain of the 1st Company, that Aonid allowed Aeonid Thiel to extract the mortally-wounded Guilliman, after which he was placed into stasis.
10th May '18 1:05:31 PM MyssaRei
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** Guilliman starred in not one, but ''two'' post-Heresy Primarch-vs.-Primarch battles, both of which turned out to be duds. He ''supposedly'' slew Alpharius in one blow, and his battle with Daemon Prince Fulgrim was a CurbstopBattle instead in Fulgrim's favor.
** It's heavily implied he fought Necrons during the Heresy, namely Trazyn the Infinite. In one story in an issue of ''White Dwarf'', Trazyn mentions to Sicarius that he had met Guilliman, calling him "an old friend", and was considering swiping his corpse off Macragge to add to his collection. [[spoiler:Later lore suggests that Trazyn was just enjoying riling up the Ultramarines, and had no real history with Guilliman.]]

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** Guilliman starred in not one, but ''two'' post-Heresy Primarch-vs.-Primarch battles, both of which turned out to be duds. He ''supposedly'' slew Alpharius in one blow, and his battle with Daemon Prince Fulgrim was a CurbstopBattle CurbstompBattle instead in Fulgrim's favor.
** It's heavily implied he fought Necrons during the Heresy, namely Trazyn the Infinite. In one story in an issue of ''White Dwarf'', Trazyn mentions to Sicarius that he had met Guilliman, calling him "an old friend", and was considering swiping his corpse off Macragge to add to his collection. [[spoiler:Later lore suggests that Trazyn was just [[{{Troll}} enjoying riling up the Ultramarines, Ultramarines]], and had no real history with Guilliman.]]
1st May '18 9:24:36 PM Willbyr
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