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* SitcomArchnemesis: They are this with MSI as they're fighting over radio waves at the start of the game. [[spoiler:Until Graham attacks it if he remains leader.]]

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* SitcomArchnemesis: SitcomArchNemesis: They are this with MSI as they're fighting over radio waves at the start of the game. [[spoiler:Until Graham attacks it if he remains leader.]]
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* DarthVaderClone: They have the most threatening armor sets next to the ramshackle and savage Marauders, complete with dark, intricate gas masks. Unfortunately for the Iconoclasts, these bulky and imposing outfits are rather itchy.
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* NotSoDifferent: He's really not much better than your average corporation head in Halcyon when it comes to how much value he places on his followers. Zora calls him out for essentially viewing their people as expendable.

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* IveComeTooFar: Even if she [[spoiler:deposes Graham]], she still wants to attain the [[spoiler:targeting module]] and conquer Stellar Bay as she views the fight over it as the tipping point where the Iconoclasts will either become the de facto force ruling over Monarch or completely helpless to oppose MSI any further.

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* TheFundamentalist: It is the largest religious group in the system except for the OSI.

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* DarthVaderClone: They have the most threatening armor sets next to the ramshackle and savage Marauders, complete with dark, intricate gas masks. Unfortunately for the Iconoclasts, these bulky and imposing outfits are rather itchy.
* TheFundamentalist: It is They practice Philosophism, the largest religious group religion in the system except for the OSI.
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* TheLancer: They argue constantly over the group's priorities, but at the end of the day Zora is Graham's loyal second-in-command. [[spoiler:Which it what makes finding out he was the one who supplied the pirates with the gate codes to Amber Heights so hard for her.]]

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* TheLancer: They argue constantly over the group's priorities, but at the end of the day Zora is Graham's loyal second-in-command. [[spoiler:Which it is what makes finding out he was the one who supplied the pirates with the gate codes to Amber Heights so hard for her.]]
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** NeverMyFault: ...Despite this, he has internalized his HeelFaithTurn so thoroughly that he is completely unwilling to [[spoiler:actually admit responsibility for the Amber Heights Massacre if confronted with it by the player, only speaking of his guilt through hypothetical scenarios while never outright confirming his role in it. He'll only confirm it if Zora tries to take control of the Iconoclasts from him.]]

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** NeverMyFault: ...* NeverMyFault: Despite this, the guilt he feels, he has internalized his HeelFaithTurn so thoroughly that he is completely unwilling to [[spoiler:actually admit responsibility for the Amber Heights Massacre if confronted with it by the player, only speaking of his guilt through hypothetical scenarios while never outright confirming his role in it. He'll only confirm it if Zora tries to take control of the Iconoclasts from him.]]



* ActionGirl: May, of course. Both wear the Iconoclasts' heaviest armor and {{BFG}}s. Helmeted and fully suited up, they're basically indistinguishable until May starts doing the talking for them both.

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* ActionGirl: May, of course. Both wear the Iconoclasts' heaviest armor and carry {{BFG}}s. Helmeted and fully suited up, they're basically indistinguishable until May starts doing the talking for them both.
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* PlayerPunch: If the player sided with [[spoiler:MSI over them in the battle for the targeting module]] and deigns to return to Amber Heights for whatever reason, they'll find none of the named members of the organization they've met and potentially befriended (or even rescued) there, implying that they all [[spoiler:died during the thwarted siege on Stellar Bay or wandered off in defeat.]]


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* TheRemnant: If it comes to pass, the climactic battle that the Iconoclasts have with [[spoiler:MSI over the targeting module]] doesn't necessarily result in them being wiped out if they should lose. What's left of the DecapitatedArmy can be found bumming around Amber Heights, slumming it across Monarch, or taking potshots at the Unplanned Variable if they get too close.

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* BrokenPedestal: [[spoiler:For Zora, after she finds out about his part in instigating the Amber Heights massacre. Felix and a Philosophist Max are similarly disgusted. Even Sanjar can't believe Graham would have killed so many people in the name of his cause.]]



* HidingBehindReligion: Zora basically states this is the case [[spoiler:as he claims he's found peace in Philophism but is doing the same thing he did before.]] Vicar Max backs this up, claiming that he uses his faith as a bludgeon.

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* HidingBehindReligion: Zora [[spoiler:Zora]] basically states this is the case [[spoiler:as as he claims he's found peace in Philophism but is [[spoiler:is doing the same thing he did before.]] before -- treating people like tools, placing the cause above individual lives]]. Vicar Max backs this up, claiming that he uses his faith as a bludgeon.



* PreacherMan: Graham styles himself as a preacher.

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* PreacherMan: Graham styles himself as a preacher.kind of guru and spiritual mentor to his flock.



* WeUsedToBeFriends: He was friends with Sanjar. Now he and Sanjar lead opposing factions.

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* WeUsedToBeFriends: He was friends with Sanjar. Now he and Sanjar the two lead opposing factions.factions, with Sanjar wanting to rejoin the Board and reform it from within, while Graham believes the Board must be dismantled so that something new can be built in its place.



->''"No! No more listening. No more preaching. We are losing people left and right. We need to act!"''



* AFatherToHisMen: Zora and Graham argue a lot over the later's wasting their people's lives. Zora is the organization's doctor meaning she's the one patching those wounded following Graham's missions.



* TheLancer: They argue constantly over the group's priorities, but at the end of the day Zora is Graham's loyal second-in-command. [[spoiler:Which it what makes finding out he was the one who supplied the pirates with the gate codes to Amber Heights so hard for her.]]



* MorallyAmbiguousDoctorate: Is both a doctor as well as a leader in a guerrilla (terrorist?) organization.

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* MorallyAmbiguousDoctorate: Is both a doctor as well as a leader in a guerrilla (terrorist?) organization.([[YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters terrorist?]]) organization.
* AMotherToHerMen: Zora and Graham argue a lot over the latter's wasting their people's lives in the name of larger, more abstract objectives. Zora is the organization's doctor meaning she's the one patching those wounded following Graham's missions.



* ThisIsUnforgivable: Believes MSI cutting off their supply chain is this. [[spoiler:It turns out to be forgivable]].

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* ThisIsUnforgivable: Believes MSI cutting off their supply chain is this. [[spoiler:It turns [[spoiler:She changes her mind when Sanjar reaches out to be forgivable]].with an offer of alliance, after she finds out the full extent of Graham's complicity in the massacre of Amber Heights.]]



->''"Nothing on this moon for nobody. Just a lotta heartbreak."''



* AWolfInSheepsClothing: Puts up the act of being a retired mercenary who lost his squad years ago, but after completing his quest and finding out his "momento" doesn't match the sob story he told you, he admits he lied to you so you could pick up the money from a job he last minute cancelled. Said job caused several innocent people to die, and he thanks you for essentially letting him get away with it.

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* TheStoryteller: Has three stories to tell about the sights he's seen across Monarch, from the Hot Pole to the Cold. He'll tell you more more about the strange (but [[ShownTheirWork not totally implausible]]) geography of the planet than any other character, even if he can't explain the science behind it all himself.
* AWolfInSheepsClothing: Puts up the act of being a retired mercenary who lost his squad years ago, but after completing his quest and finding out his "momento" "memento" doesn't match the sob story he told you, he admits he lied to you so you could pick up the money from a job he last minute cancelled. Said job caused several innocent people to die, and he thanks you for essentially letting him get away with it.



->''"You are a sight, I'll tell you what. We are up a creek."''%%--May



* ActionGirl: May of course.
* TheBigGuy: They serve as heavies for the Iconoclast's army and are some of the groups best soldiers. They definately look the part too, with some of the strongest weapons and armor that Amber Heights has to offer.

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* ActionGirl: May, of course. Both wear the Iconoclasts' heaviest armor and {{BFG}}s. Helmeted and fully suited up, they're basically indistinguishable until May of course.
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* TheBigGuy: They serve as heavies for the Iconoclast's Iconoclasts' army and are some of the groups group's best soldiers. They definately definitely look the part too, with some of the strongest heaviest weapons and armor that Amber Heights has to offer.offer.
* {{BFG}}: Both tote heavy weapons.
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* EvilCounterpart: To Vicar Max no matter how his personal quest pans out. To OSI Max, he is a similarly proud and wounded man who has turned to his faith as a way of saving himself from his faults, but hopes to erase rather than rectify his failures and is all too willing to exploit his station to dominate the masses. To Philosophist Max, for as much as he harps on spirituality and enlightenment, if a would-be believer doesn't pursue the religion in the way he does, then they aren't true Philosophists. Even a Max who has [[spoiler:done away with religion entirely]], in spite of his brusque manner and violent tendencies, would never, even at the height of his bitterness, mastermind the death of [[spoiler:an entire town.]] As an added bonus, Graham can potentially make his last stand at a [[spoiler:church on Monarch not too dissimilar in design from the one the Unplanned Variable first met Max.]]

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!! The Iconoclasts

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->''"Freedom! This is the only place in Halcyon you'll find it. No corporations, no shackles, no problems."''%%--Rose






* JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope: [[spoiler: Graham does this for the Iconoclasts by having them attack Stellar Bay if they receive the logic module.]]

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* JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope: [[spoiler: Graham [[spoiler:Graham does this for the Iconoclasts by having them attack Stellar Bay if they receive the logic module.]]



* TheRevolutionWillNotBeCivilized: Averted for the time being as Graham is keeping them from doing too much to non-Board targets. [[spoiler: Revealed to be a scam as not only was Graham responsible for the Amber Heights massacre but is planning to conquer Stellar Bay.]]
** TheRevolutionWillNotBeVillified: [[spoiler: If Zora takes over.]]
* SitcomArchnemesis: They are this with MSI as they're fighting over radio waves at the start of the game. [[spoiler: Until Graham attacks it if he remains leader.]]
* YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters: Like the Outlaws but significantly more "Freedom Fighter" than Terrorist. [[spoiler: Unless Graham wins.]]

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* TheRevolutionWillNotBeCivilized: Averted for the time being as Graham is keeping them from doing too much to non-Board targets. [[spoiler: Revealed [[spoiler:Revealed to be a scam as not only was Graham responsible for the Amber Heights massacre but is planning to conquer Stellar Bay.]]
** TheRevolutionWillNotBeVillified: [[spoiler: If [[spoiler:If Zora takes over.]]
* SitcomArchnemesis: They are this with MSI as they're fighting over radio waves at the start of the game. [[spoiler: Until [[spoiler:Until Graham attacks it if he remains leader.]]
* YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters: Like the Outlaws but significantly more "Freedom Fighter" than Terrorist. [[spoiler: Unless [[spoiler:Unless Graham wins.]]




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->''"A stranger comes to our home. If you're looking for a path to walk, you've found one. If you're looking for a teacher, I am one."''







* TheAtoner: Most of what he's done [[spoiler: is to make up for the Amber Heights massacre.]]
* DefiantToTheEnd: [[spoiler: If the player supports Zora ousting him from leadership, he will refuse to go down peacefully and has to be killed by the player.]]

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\n* TheAtoner: Most of what he's done [[spoiler: is [[spoiler:is to make up for the Amber Heights massacre.]]
* DefiantToTheEnd: [[spoiler: If [[spoiler:If the player supports Zora ousting him from leadership, he will refuse to go down peacefully and has to be killed by the player.]]



* HeelFaithTurn: Believes he's made one. [[spoiler: He's wrong.]]
* {{Hypocrite}}: Claims to be fighting against The Board's corporate hegemony over the colony so that the workers will have better lives. To spread his message, he's willing to sacrifice as many of them as he can, often at the expense of necessities like food and medicine. It's doubly hypocritical in hindsight when you find out [[spoiler: he was willing to resort to murdering everyone at the Amber Heights compound just so he and Sanjar could be in charge of Monarch.]]

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* HeelFaithTurn: Believes he's made one. [[spoiler: He's [[spoiler:He's wrong.]]
* {{Hypocrite}}: Claims to be fighting against The Board's corporate hegemony over the colony so that the workers will have better lives. To spread his message, he's willing to sacrifice as many of them as he can, often at the expense of necessities like food and medicine. It's doubly hypocritical in hindsight when you find out [[spoiler: he [[spoiler:he was willing to resort to murdering everyone at the Amber Heights compound just so he and Sanjar could be in charge of Monarch.]]



* HidingBehindReligion: Zora basically states this is the case [[spoiler: as he claims he's found peace in Philophism but is doing the same thing he did before.]] Vicar Max backs this up, claiming that he uses his faith as a bludgeon.
* ItsAllAboutMe: Even before it is revealed he [[spoiler: is responsible for the Amber Heights massacre and founded the Iconoclasts as a way to distance himself from his own guilt,]] Zora calls him out on how cavalier he is with their people's lives, valuing things like a printing press when they're ''dangerously'' low on food, medicine, and ammo.

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* HidingBehindReligion: Zora basically states this is the case [[spoiler: as [[spoiler:as he claims he's found peace in Philophism but is doing the same thing he did before.]] Vicar Max backs this up, claiming that he uses his faith as a bludgeon.
* ItsAllAboutMe: Even before it is revealed he [[spoiler: is [[spoiler:is responsible for the Amber Heights massacre and founded the Iconoclasts as a way to distance himself from his own guilt,]] Zora calls him out on how cavalier he is with their people's lives, valuing things like a printing press when they're ''dangerously'' low on food, medicine, and ammo.



** NeverMyFault: ...Despite this, he has internalized his HeelFaithTurn so thoroughly that he is completely unwilling to [[spoiler: actually admit responsibility for the Amber Heights Massacre if confronted with it by the player, only speaking of his guilt through hypothetical scenarios while never outright confirming his role in it. He'll only confirm it if Zora tries to take control of the Iconoclasts from him.]]

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** NeverMyFault: ...Despite this, he has internalized his HeelFaithTurn so thoroughly that he is completely unwilling to [[spoiler: actually [[spoiler:actually admit responsibility for the Amber Heights Massacre if confronted with it by the player, only speaking of his guilt through hypothetical scenarios while never outright confirming his role in it. He'll only confirm it if Zora tries to take control of the Iconoclasts from him.]]



* WeHaveReserves: Has this attitude toward his men. [[spoiler: He doesn't, and his callous waste of Iconoclast soldiers in pursuit of the spreading of his message gradually drives a wedge between him and Zora.]]

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* WeHaveReserves: Has this attitude toward his men. [[spoiler: He [[spoiler:He doesn't, and his callous waste of Iconoclast soldiers in pursuit of the spreading of his message gradually drives a wedge between him and Zora.]]















* ThisIsUnforgivable: Believes MSI cutting off their supply chain is this. [[spoiler: It turns out to be forgivable]].

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* ThisIsUnforgivable: Believes MSI cutting off their supply chain is this. [[spoiler: It [[spoiler:It turns out to be forgivable]].









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[[Characters/TheOuterWorldsTheCrew The Crew]] | Factions (Corporations: [[Characters/TheOuterWorldsCorporationsTheBoard The Board]], [[Characters/TheOuterWorldsCorporationsAuntieCleos Auntie Cleo's]], [[Characters/TheOuterWorldsCorporationsSpacersChoice Spacer's Choice]], [[Characters/TheOuterWorldsCPBoarstFactory C&P Boarst Factory]], [[Characters/TheOuterWorldsCorporationsMSI MSI]]), [[Characters/TheOuterWorldsCorporationsSubLight SubLight Salvaging & Shipping]], '''Iconoclasts''', Other Groups: [[Characters/TheOuterWorldsGroundbreaker Groundbreaker]], [[Characters/TheOuterWorldsDeserters Deserters]], [[Characters/TheOuterWorldsGorgon Gorgon]], [[Characters/TheOuterWorldsMarauders Marauders]], [[Characters/TheOuterWorldsOutlaws Outlaws]] | [[Characters/TheOuterWorldsOtherCharacters Other Characters]]]]-]]]

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[[Characters/TheOuterWorldsTheCrew The Crew]] | Factions (Corporations: [[Characters/TheOuterWorldsCorporationsTheBoard The Board]], [[Characters/TheOuterWorldsCorporationsAuntieCleos Auntie Cleo's]], [[Characters/TheOuterWorldsCorporationsSpacersChoice Spacer's Choice]], [[Characters/TheOuterWorldsCPBoarstFactory C&P Boarst Factory]], [[Characters/TheOuterWorldsCorporationsMSI MSI]]), [[Characters/TheOuterWorldsCorporationsSubLight SubLight Salvaging & Shipping]], '''Iconoclasts''', Other Groups: [[Characters/TheOuterWorldsGroundbreaker Groundbreaker]], [[Characters/TheOuterWorldsDeserters Deserters]], [[Characters/TheOuterWorldsGorgon Gorgon]], [[Characters/TheOuterWorldsEridanos Eridanos]], [[Characters/TheOuterWorldsMarauders Marauders]], [[Characters/TheOuterWorldsOutlaws Outlaws]] | [[Characters/TheOuterWorldsOtherCharacters Other Characters]]]]-]]]
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* TheCavalry: If you've helped them out [[spoiler:they'll be one of the potential factions that end up assaulting Tartarus in the end to help you]].

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* TheBigGuy: They serve as heavies for the Iconoclast's army and are some of the groups best soldiers. They definately look the part too, with some of the strongest weapons and armor the Amber Heights has to offer.

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* TheQuietOne: August rarely says anything and prefers to let his sister May do most of the talking.
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A pair of siblings that serve as some of the Iconoclast's heaviest hitters.
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* ActionGirl: May of course.
* TheBigGuy: They serve as heavies for the Iconoclast's army and are some of the groups best soldiers. They definately look the part too, with some of the strongest weapons and armor the Amber Heights has to offer.
* BrotherSisterTeam: They are implied to do most (if not all) of their jobs as a team. If the UV made a positive impact on the Iconoclasts and maintained a good relationship with them they can even be found [[spoiler:leading a group of Iconoclast soldiers during the assault on Tartarus at the end of the game.]]
* DayOfTheWeekName: Month of the year variant. Their first names are May and August.
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[[Characters/TheOuterWorldsTheCrew The Crew]] | Factions (Corporations: [[Characters/TheOuterWorldsCorporationsTheBoard The Board]], [[Characters/TheOuterWorldsCorporationsAuntieCleos Auntie Cleo's]], [[Characters/TheOuterWorldsCorporationsSpacersChoice Spacer's Choice]], [[Characters/TheOuterWorldsCPBoarstFactory C&P Boarst Factory]], [[Characters/TheOuterWorldsCorporationsMSI MSI]]), [[Characters/TheOuterWorldsCorporationsSubLight SubLight Salvaging & Shipping]], '''Iconoclasts''', Other Groups: [[Characters/TheOuterWorldsGroundbreaker Groundbreaker]], [[Characters/TheOuterWorldsDeserters Deserters]], [[Characters/TheOuterWorldsMarauders Marauders]], [[Characters/TheOuterWorldsOutlaws Outlaws]] | [[Characters/TheOuterWorldsOtherCharacters Other Characters]]]]-]]]

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[[Characters/TheOuterWorldsTheCrew The Crew]] | Factions (Corporations: [[Characters/TheOuterWorldsCorporationsTheBoard The Board]], [[Characters/TheOuterWorldsCorporationsAuntieCleos Auntie Cleo's]], [[Characters/TheOuterWorldsCorporationsSpacersChoice Spacer's Choice]], [[Characters/TheOuterWorldsCPBoarstFactory C&P Boarst Factory]], [[Characters/TheOuterWorldsCorporationsMSI MSI]]), [[Characters/TheOuterWorldsCorporationsSubLight SubLight Salvaging & Shipping]], '''Iconoclasts''', Other Groups: [[Characters/TheOuterWorldsGroundbreaker Groundbreaker]], [[Characters/TheOuterWorldsDeserters Deserters]], [[Characters/TheOuterWorldsGorgon Gorgon]], [[Characters/TheOuterWorldsMarauders Marauders]], [[Characters/TheOuterWorldsOutlaws Outlaws]] | [[Characters/TheOuterWorldsOtherCharacters Other Characters]]]]-]]]

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