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** However, in the [[WordOfGod Norwegian version of the game]] his name is "Ravn", which does mean raven. His in-game model also more closely resembles a raven than a crow. The reason for [[Woolseyism the change to "Crow" in the English translation]] could be that "Raven" sounds a little too sophisticated for him, whereas "Crow" falls in nicely with "crude" and "crass", and works better as a nickname.
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** However, in the [[WordOfGod Norwegian version of the game]] his name is "Ravn", which does mean raven. His in-game model also more closely resembles a raven than a crow. The reason for [[Woolseyism the change to "Crow" in the English translation]] translation could be that "Raven" sounds a little too sophisticated for him, whereas "Crow" falls in nicely with "crude" and "crass", and works better as a nickname.
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Mentioned that Crow's original name means "Raven" in Norwegian, and how this ties in with the Polish translation.
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* DubNameChange: His name was rendered "Kruk" in the Polish version of the game and, while it does seem to look kind of similar to the original, is in fact the name of another popular bird, the raven. The proper Polish translation of the term "Crow" would in fact be "Wrona", which is feminine (and thus not really that fitting a male character) and just happens to be possibly one of the last names in the language you would ever associate with a positive character.
** And thus the translators set a trap for themselves in the sequel, in which April Ryan is commonly known in the resistance as the "Raven" of all birds. How did they solve it? They had her nickname changed into "Raven-haired". The whole mess somehow works to the game's advantage as Polish-speaking gamers may wonder whether there is some link between the way she was named by her fellow rebels and Crow himself.
** And thus the translators set a trap for themselves in the sequel, in which April Ryan is commonly known in the resistance as the "Raven" of all birds. How did they solve it? They had her nickname changed into "Raven-haired". The whole mess somehow works to the game's advantage as Polish-speaking gamers may wonder whether there is some link between the way she was named by her fellow rebels and Crow himself.
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* DubNameChange: His name was rendered "Kruk" in the Polish version of the game and, while it does seem to look kind of similar to the original, English name, is in fact the name of another popular bird, the raven. The proper Polish translation of the term "Crow" would in fact be "Wrona", which is feminine (and thus not really that fitting a male character) and just happens to be possibly one of the last names in the language you would ever associate with a positive character.
**And thus the translators set a trap for themselves However, in the sequel, in [[WordOfGod Norwegian version of the game]] his name is "Ravn", which April Ryan is commonly known does mean raven. His in-game model also more closely resembles a raven than a crow. The reason for [[Woolseyism the change to "Crow" in the resistance as the English translation]] could be that "Raven" of all birds. How did they solve it? They had her nickname changed into "Raven-haired". The whole mess somehow sounds a little too sophisticated for him, whereas "Crow" falls in nicely with "crude" and "crass", and works to the game's advantage better as Polish-speaking gamers may wonder whether there is some link between the way she was named by her fellow rebels and Crow himself.a nickname.
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* MrSwearAlot: The Flipper can't seem to voice a single sentence without swearing.
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* MrSwearAlot: SirSwearsalot: The Flipper can't seem to voice a single sentence without swearing.
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Like April, Brian is a denizen of Stark that has journeyed to Arcadia, but unlike April he is not a Shifter so he can't return home. In the original game he lived in his seaside home in Marcuria where he languished his days away with drink. After aiding April on her quest, Brian decided to turn his life around and leave Marcuria to explore the rest of Arcadia.
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Like April, Brian is a denizen of Stark that has journeyed journeye
d to Arcadia, but unlike April he is not a Shifter so he can't return home. In the original game he lived in his seaside home in Marcuria where he languished his days away with drink. After aiding April on her quest, Brian decided to turn his life around and leave Marcuria to explore the rest of Arcadia.
d to Arcadia, but unlike April he is not a Shifter so he can't return home. In the original game he lived in his seaside home in Marcuria where he languished his days away with drink. After aiding April on her quest, Brian decided to turn his life around and leave Marcuria to explore the rest of Arcadia.
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* ContemplativeBoss: [=McAllen=] assumes this pose when April meets him in his office.
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* OhNoNotAgain: At the end of [[spoiler:Book 4]], he notices that he has once again [[spoiler:been left to his own devices in a strange and unfamiliar location by an "inscrutable woman with otherworldly powers."]]
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* OhNoNotAgain: At the end of [[spoiler:Book 4]], 4 of ''Chapters'']], he notices that he has once again [[spoiler:been left to his own devices in a strange and unfamiliar location by an "inscrutable woman with otherworldly powers."]]
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* BroughtDownToNormal: [[spoiler:In ''Dreamfall'' he says that he has renounced his wizard ways due to magic being outlawed by the Azadi. ''Chapters'', however, that he has genuinely lost his powers and is greatly frustrated by it.]]
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* BroughtDownToNormal: [[spoiler:In ''Dreamfall'' he says that he has renounced his wizard ways due to magic being outlawed by the Azadi. ''Chapters'', however, implies that he has genuinely lost his powers and is greatly frustrated by it.]]
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-->'''April:''' Who was that? Wait, don't tell me, evil wizard. They all sound like Richard III on crack to me.
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-->'''April:''' Who was that? Wait, don't tell me, evil wizard. They all sound like Richard III ''Theatre/RichardIII'' on crack to me.
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* TheCameo: She has a gallery in Propast during ''Chapters'', although we never get to see her.
* AndTheAdventureContinues: He's always up for being an adventure. When [[spoiler: Zoe disappears at the end of Book 4 in ''Chapters'', he decides he'll be Kian's sidekick.]]
* HeroicBSoD: Has a minor one when he learns of [[spoiler: April's death]].
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* CoolOldGuy: [[spoiler: What [[spoiler:What with being a dragon in human form]].
*[[spoiler: TheObiWan]]TheObiWan: [[spoiler:He appear to fall to his death during a battle with the Green Kin.]]
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* TechnoWizard: Downplayed. He knows his way around computers and their security systems, but he mentions that he sometimes have to call in outside help to do certain things.
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* TechnoWizard: Downplayed. He knows his way around most computers and their security systems, but he mentions that he sometimes have to call in outside help to do certain things.
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* HeelFaceTurn: [[spoiler:During the gap between ''The Longest Journey'' and ''Dreamfall'' he has renounced his evil ways and has become a keeper of a magic shop instead.]]
* HeelFaceTurn: [[spoiler:During the gap between ''The Longest Journey'' and ''Dreamfall'' he has renounced his evil ways and has become a keeper of a magic shop instead.]]
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* EvilSorcerer
BroughtDownToNormal: [[spoiler:In ''Dreamfall'' he says that he has renounced his wizard ways due to magic being outlawed by the Azadi. ''Chapters'', however, that he has genuinely lost his powers and is greatly frustrated by it.]]
* EvilSorcerer: A very classic example of the trope. It is even lampshaded.
* EvilIsHammy: April's reaction on hearing Klacks' EvilLaugh:
-->'''April:''' Who was that? Wait, don't tell me, evil wizard. They all sound like Richard III on crack to me.
* HeelFaceTurn: [[spoiler:During the gap between ''The Longest Journey'' and ''Dreamfall'' he has renounced his evil ways and has become a keeper of a magic shop instead. ''Chapters'' on the hand implies that he has plenty of pent-up rage in him and would gladly wreck havoc upon the world again if it weren't for his missing powers.]]
* EvilSorcerer: A very classic example of the trope. It is even lampshaded.
* EvilIsHammy: April's reaction on hearing Klacks' EvilLaugh:
-->'''April:''' Who was that? Wait, don't tell me, evil wizard. They all sound like Richard III on crack to me.
* HeelFaceTurn: [[spoiler:During the gap between ''The Longest Journey'' and ''Dreamfall'' he has renounced his evil ways and has become a keeper of a magic shop instead. ''Chapters'' on the hand implies that he has plenty of pent-up rage in him and would gladly wreck havoc upon the world again if it weren't for his missing powers.]]
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* LargeHam: April's reaction on hearing Klacks' EvilLaugh:
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-->'''April:''' "Who was that? Wait, don't tell me, evil wizard. They all sound like Richard III on crack to me."
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* [[spoiler:HeelFaceTurn]]: [[spoiler:During the gap between ''The Longest Journey'' and ''Dreamfall'' he has renounced his evil ways and has become a keeper of a magic shop instead.]]
* HerComenameWasMarySue: The plot of his finger puppet play in ''Chapters'' is an obvious skewed re-telling of his encounter with April, casting himself as the heroic wizard, who is both "kind" and "handsome", and April as the "evil sorceress" who messed everything up for him.
* HerComenameWasMarySue: The plot of his finger puppet play in ''Chapters'' is an obvious skewed re-telling of his encounter with April, casting himself as the heroic wizard, who is both "kind" and "handsome", and April as the "evil sorceress" who messed everything up for him.
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* [[spoiler:HeelFaceTurn]]: HeelFaceTurn: [[spoiler:During the gap between ''The Longest Journey'' and ''Dreamfall'' he has renounced his evil ways and has become a keeper of a magic shop instead.]]
*HerComenameWasMarySue: HerCodenameWasMarySue: The plot of his finger puppet play in ''Chapters'' is an obvious skewed re-telling of his encounter with April, casting himself as the heroic wizard, who is both "kind" and "handsome", and April as the "evil sorceress" who messed everything up for him.
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* MetaGuy: He often [[LeaningOnTheFourthWall Learns On The Fourth Wall]], coming with jabs both towards the game's plots as well as typical adventure game tropes.
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* MetaGuy: He often [[LeaningOnTheFourthWall Learns Leans On The Fourth Wall]], coming with jabs both towards the game's plots as well as typical adventure game tropes.
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* OhNoNotAgain: At the end of [[spoiler:Book 4]], he notices that he has once again [[spoiler:been left to his own devices in a strange and unfamiliar location by an "inscrutable woman with otherworldly powers.]]
* MetaGuy: He often [[LearningOnTheFourthWall Learns On The Fourth Wall]], coming with jabs both towards the game's plots as well as typical adventure game tropes.
* MetaGuy: He often [[LearningOnTheFourthWall Learns On The Fourth Wall]], coming with jabs both towards the game's plots as well as typical adventure game tropes.
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* OhNoNotAgain: At the end of [[spoiler:Book 4]], he notices that he has once again [[spoiler:been left to his own devices in a strange and unfamiliar location by an "inscrutable woman with otherworldly powers.]]
"]]
* MetaGuy: He often[[LearningOnTheFourthWall [[LeaningOnTheFourthWall Learns On The Fourth Wall]], coming with jabs both towards the game's plots as well as typical adventure game tropes.
* MetaGuy: He often
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* TheCameo: He gets seen at the end of Book 2 in Chapters in a scene with Mother Utana, although he does not speak. He was confirmed to return for Book 3.
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* MetaGuy: He often LearnsOnTheFourthWall, [[LearningOnTheFourthWall Learns On The Fourth Wall]], coming with jabs both towards the game's plots as well as typical adventure game tropes.
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* OhNoNotAgain: At the end of [[spoiler:Book 4]], he notices that he has once again [[spoiler:been left to his own devices in a strange and unfamiliar location by an "inscrutable woman with otherworldly powers.]]
* MetaGuy: He often LearnsOnTheFourthWall, coming with jabs both towards the game's plots as well as typical adventure game tropes.
* MetaGuy: He often LearnsOnTheFourthWall, coming with jabs both towards the game's plots as well as typical adventure game tropes.
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* PluckyComicRelief: In both games. He doesn't appear until near the end of the game in Dreamfall, though, so his levity is rather overdue after a game full of being harassed, arrested, and attacked. He's also somewhat less "plucky" than most examples, because it's quite easy to hurt his feelings; probably because his only friend in the world (viz. April) tends to treat him like a tool, and a somewhat dim one at that. Zoë goes a long way towards endearing herself to him by treating him with considerably more respect-an optional conversation with him in Dreamfall is just a conversation for the sake of conversation.
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* PluckyComicRelief: In both all games. He doesn't appear until near the end of the game in Dreamfall, ''Dreamfall'', though, so his levity is rather overdue after a game full of being harassed, arrested, and attacked. He's also somewhat less "plucky" than most examples, because it's quite easy to hurt his feelings; probably because his only friend in the world (viz. April) tends to treat him like a tool, and a somewhat dim one at that. Zoë goes a long way towards endearing herself to him by treating him with considerably more respect-an optional conversation with him in Dreamfall is just a conversation for the sake of conversation.
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* HerComenameWasMarySue: The plot of his finger puppet play in ''Chapters'' is an obvious skewed re-telling of his encounter with April, casting himself as the heroic wizard, who is both "kind" and "handsome", and April as the "evil sorceress" who messed everything up for him.
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* JerkAss: He gets extremely vindictive when April either does not show up for their date and makes "look stupid in front of his friends", or knees him in the groin during their date for groping her.
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* JerkAss: He His introduction scene already has him being extremely obnoxious, then his second appearance is him essentially blackmailing April into going on a date with him. Finally, he gets extremely vindictive when April either does not show up for their date and makes "look stupid in front of his friends", or knees him in the groin during their date for groping her.
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* CasanovaWannabe
* JerkAss
* [[spoiler:HeelFaceDoorSlam]]: [[spoiler: It is obvious that he sincerely regrets selling April and the others out to the Vanguard, but he is shot and killed before he can do anything to make up for it.]]
* JerkAss
* [[spoiler:HeelFaceDoorSlam]]: [[spoiler: It is obvious that he sincerely regrets selling April and the others out to the Vanguard, but he is shot and killed before he can do anything to make up for it.]]
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* CasanovaWannabe
CasanovaWannabe: He constantly tries to convince April to go on a date with him, and very obviously consider himself God's gift to women.
*JerkAss
JerkAss: He gets extremely vindictive when April either does not show up for their date and makes "look stupid in front of his friends", or knees him in the groin during their date for groping her.
*[[spoiler:HeelFaceDoorSlam]]: [[spoiler: It HeelFaceDoorSlam: [[spoiler:It is obvious that he sincerely regrets selling April and the others out to the Vanguard, but he is shot and killed before he can do anything to make up for it.]]
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* BroughtDownToNormal: She loses her Shifting powers between ''TLJ'' and ''Dreamfall'', [[spoiler:though the White Kin explains that this is probably because of her fear of returning to Stark]].
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* BroughtDownToNormal: She loses her Shifting powers between ''TLJ'' and ''Dreamfall'', [[spoiler:though the White Kin explains that this is probably because of she does still have her powers, but her fear of and anxiety about returning to Stark]].Stark prevents her from using them]].
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* ChronicHeroSyndrome: Played with in ''Dreamfall''. She'll help out Zoe because Zoe literally has no one else. But she wants no part in what Zoe has planned.
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-->'''April:''' I'm the Windbringer. I'm the Waterstiller. I'm April Bandu-embata of the Banda, and the Venar Kan-ang-la. I'm a shifter. I will someday become the thirteenth Guardian, protector of the Balance. And I'm april Ryan.
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-->'''April:''' I'm the Windbringer. I'm the Waterstiller. I'm April Bandu-embata of the Banda, and the Venar Kan-ang-la. I'm a shifter. I will someday become the thirteenth Guardian, protector of the Balance. And I'm april April Ryan.
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* UndyingLoyalty: [[spoiler:She hasn't heard from MeaningfulName: de Vrijer is Dutch for "the lover".
* OnlyOneName: Subverted. In ''TLJ'', she is just Emma, but ''Dreamfall'' reveals herbest friend in ten years, and still spends a lot of the money from her career as an artist on searching for her.]]family name.
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best friend in ten years, and still spends a lot of the money from her career as an artist on searching for her.]]
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* FaceHeelTurn: [[spoiler:Going from being one of the four Draic Kin that originally created the balance, to wanting to destroy it.]]
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* ChronicHeroSyndrome: Played with in ''Dreamfall''. She'll help out Zoe because Zoe literally has no one else. But she wants no part in what Zoe has planned.
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* WhatTheHellHero: Chews out April for abandoning Zoe, and in fact leaves her to go help Zoe out.
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-->'''April:''' I'm the Windbringer. I'm the Waterstiller. I'm April Bandu-embata of the Banda, and the Venar Kan-ang-la. I'm a shifter. I will someday become the thirteenth Guardian, protector of the Balance. And I'm april Ryan.\\
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-->'''April:''' I'm the Windbringer. I'm the Waterstiller. I'm April Bandu-embata of the Banda, and the Venar Kan-ang-la. I'm a shifter. I will someday become the thirteenth Guardian, protector of the Balance. And I'm april Ryan.\\
