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* BigBad: Of the first three movies, and becomes the PredecessorVillain after his death in ''Saw III''. Also in ''Saw X'', though since he's a VillainProtagonist and [[EvilVsEvil his main opponent]] Cecilia Pederson is even worse in some ways, it could be argued she is the actual BigBad or they are in a BigBadEnsemble.
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* BigBad: Of the first three movies, and becomes the PredecessorVillain GreaterScopeVillain after his death in ''Saw III''. Also III''.
* BigBadEnsemble:
** With [[TheBigBadShuffle Logan and Halloran]] in ''Jigsaw'', as John is the mastermind behind the barn game and Logan is using said game over a decade after John's death to carry out his murderous plan against Halloran, a DirtyCop responsible for numerous criminals being set free.
** In ''Saw X'',though since where he's a the VillainProtagonist and [[EvilVsEvil his main opponent]] opponent]], Cecilia Pederson Pederson, is even worse than him in some ways, it could be argued she is the actual BigBad or they are in a BigBadEnsemble.ways.
* BigBadEnsemble:
** With [[TheBigBadShuffle Logan and Halloran]] in ''Jigsaw'', as John is the mastermind behind the barn game and Logan is using said game over a decade after John's death to carry out his murderous plan against Halloran, a DirtyCop responsible for numerous criminals being set free.
** In ''Saw X'',
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* ImmortalityThroughMemory: In ''Saw II'', John and Amanda believe that "the cure for cancer" is immortality through memory. So long as his work outlives him and his legacy is remembered, he will live on.
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* ImmortalityThroughMemory: In ''Saw II'', John and Amanda state that they believe that "the cure for cancer" is immortality through memory. So long as his work outlives him and his legacy is remembered, he will live on.
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* ImmortalityThroughMemory: In ''Saw II'', John and Amanda believe that "the cure for cancer" is immortality through memory. So long as his work outlives him and his legacy is remembered, he will live on.
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** The first one in ''V'', he puts on a suit with glasses as part of his preparation to kidnap Hoffman.
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** The first one in ''V'', he puts on a business suit with and glasses as part of his preparation to kidnap Hoffman.
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* PaperThinDisguise: Before his identity becomes known to the public, John would put on simplistic disguises when he went out. This is seen in two separate flashbacks. The first one in ''V'', he puts on a suit with glasses before he kidnapped Hoffman. The second one in ''3D'', he wears a hoodie and a backwards baseball cap when he goes to confront Bobby (in a subtle manner) about making money out of him with a fake survival story. It fools people for a bit, but he quickly makes the people he's trying to fool suspicious because he can't help but act somewhat unnerving.
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* PaperThinDisguise: Before his identity becomes became known to the public, John would put on simplistic disguises when whenever he went out. out to communicate to people as "Jigsaw" in a subtle manner. It fools people for a bit, but he easily raises suspicions on the people he's trying to fool because he can't help but act somewhat unnerving. This is seen in two separate flashbacks. flashbacks.
** The first one in ''V'', he puts on a suit with glassesbefore he kidnapped Hoffman. as part of his preparation to kidnap Hoffman.
** The second one in ''3D'', he wears a hoodie and a backwards baseball cap when he goes to confront Bobby(in a subtle manner) about making money out of him with a fake survival story. It fools people for a bit, but he quickly makes the people he's trying to fool suspicious because he can't help but act somewhat unnerving.
** The first one in ''V'', he puts on a suit with glasses
** The second one in ''3D'', he wears a hoodie and a backwards baseball cap when he goes to confront Bobby
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* PaperThinDisguise: Before his identity becomes known to the public, John would put on simplistic disguises when he went out. This is seen in two separate flashbacks. The first one in ''V'', he puts on a suit with glasses before he kidnapped Hoffman. The second one in ''3D'' he wears a hooded jacket with a backwards baseball cap when confronting Bobby about lying about surviving a Jigsaw trap. It fools people for a bit, but he quickly makes the people he's trying to fool suspicious because he can't help but act unnerving.
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* PaperThinDisguise: Before his identity becomes known to the public, John would put on simplistic disguises when he went out. This is seen in two separate flashbacks. The first one in ''V'', he puts on a suit with glasses before he kidnapped Hoffman. The second one in ''3D'' ''3D'', he wears a hooded jacket with hoodie and a backwards baseball cap when confronting he goes to confront Bobby (in a subtle manner) about lying about surviving making money out of him with a Jigsaw trap. fake survival story. It fools people for a bit, but he quickly makes the people he's trying to fool suspicious because he can't help but act somewhat unnerving.
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* {{Jerkass}}: An understatement; John may be polite beyond his schemes, but he's otherwise quite a murderous, self-righteous asshole and seems to like putting his victims through torment. Of course, compared to his successors -- who completely miss [[SinkOrSwimMentor the point he was making]] when he was alive -- he isn't ''as'' open about this.
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-->'''John:''' You know, history is a passion for me. In ancient Egypt, if you were speaking under oath, you were required to say, "If I'm lying, take me to the quarries." That mean anything to you?\\
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* WickedCultured: He exhibits an avid interest in history. Upon meeting Bobby at his book signing in ''Saw 3D'', John tells him an anecdote of Egyptian lore about how liars were taken to the quarries as punishment if they break their oath (obliquely using it in relation to Bobby's book about his fake story as a Jigsaw victim, and as a warning for him to stop advertising the book before he gets into real trouble). He also offers a little history on the Gigli saw (specifically, about how its creator Leonardo Gigli invented it for surgical purposes) while explaining Valentina's trap to her in ''Saw X''.
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* WickedCultured: WickedCultured:
** He exhibits an avid interest inhistory. history.
*** Upon meeting Bobby at his book signing in ''Saw 3D'', John tells him an anecdote of Egyptian lore about how liars were taken to the quarries as punishment if they break their oath (obliquely using it in relation to Bobby's book about his fake story as a Jigsaw victim, and as a warning for him to stop advertising the book before he gets into realtrouble). He also trouble).
-->'''John:''' You know, history is a passion for me. In ancient Egypt, if you were speaking under oath, you were required to say, "If I'm lying, take me to the quarries." That mean anything to you?\\
'''Bobby:''' No, sir. No, sir. It doesn't.\\
'''John:''' Well, I'll tell you what it means. It means, if you knowingly lied on the public record, that you were subject to a period of enslavement.
*** In ''Saw X'', he offers a little history on the Gigli saw (specifically, about how its creator Leonardo Gigli invented it for surgical purposes) while explaining Valentina's trap toher her.
** He also quotes ''Theatre/{{Hamlet}}'' in''Saw X''.a deleted scene from ''X''.
--->'''Cecilia:''' Is this madness?!\\
'''John:''' Perhaps. But in it, there is method.
** He exhibits an avid interest in
*** Upon meeting Bobby at his book signing in ''Saw 3D'', John tells him an anecdote of Egyptian lore about how liars were taken to the quarries as punishment if they break their oath (obliquely using it in relation to Bobby's book about his fake story as a Jigsaw victim, and as a warning for him to stop advertising the book before he gets into real
-->'''John:''' You know, history is a passion for me. In ancient Egypt, if you were speaking under oath, you were required to say, "If I'm lying, take me to the quarries." That mean anything to you?\\
'''Bobby:''' No, sir. No, sir. It doesn't.\\
'''John:''' Well, I'll tell you what it means. It means, if you knowingly lied on the public record, that you were subject to a period of enslavement.
*** In ''Saw X'', he offers a little history on the Gigli saw (specifically, about how its creator Leonardo Gigli invented it for surgical purposes) while explaining Valentina's trap to
** He also quotes ''Theatre/{{Hamlet}}'' in
--->'''Cecilia:''' Is this madness?!\\
'''John:''' Perhaps. But in it, there is method.
