History Characters / SamuraiWarriors

22nd Jul '17 5:21:18 AM Phoenixion
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* GoodCannotComprehendEvil: In ''4'', he fails to see and understand why Hisahide is [[EvilIsPetty as evil as he is petty]]. He's even genuinely surprised when Hisahide finally betrayed Nobunaga in Kishu, despite at that point Hisahide has repeatedly shown that he's not loyal.



* HorribleJudgeOfCharacter:
** At least to begin with. Seriously, Mitsuhide? You believed Oda Nobunaga, called the Demon King for his ruthlessness, would create a land of compassion and peace?
** Worse in ''4'', where he's genuinely surprised when Hisahide finally betrayed Nobunaga in Kishu, despite Hisahide has repeatedly shown he's not loyal. Even Hisahide himself lampshades this. At least Nobunaga is a WellIntentionedExtremist, but Hisahide? [[CardCarryingVillain He is definitely not.]]

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* HorribleJudgeOfCharacter:
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HorribleJudgeOfCharacter: At least to begin with. Seriously, Mitsuhide? You believed Oda Nobunaga, called the Demon King for his ruthlessness, would create a land of compassion and peace?
** Worse in ''4'', where he's genuinely surprised when Hisahide finally betrayed Nobunaga in Kishu, despite Hisahide has repeatedly shown he's not loyal. Even Hisahide himself lampshades this. At least Nobunaga is a WellIntentionedExtremist, but Hisahide? [[CardCarryingVillain He is definitely not.]]
peace?
21st Jul '17 5:48:36 AM Phoenixion
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* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: Disappears after Sekigara and is never mentioned again (except for fictional scenario "Siege of Edo Castle). Historically, he apparently went mad before he died, supposedly [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone felt guilty]] over his betrayal. He also had no heir, so [[RewardedAsTraitorDeserves his clan was effectively disbanded]] and the rest of his fief was absorbed into neighboring Ikeda clan.

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* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: Disappears after Sekigara and is never mentioned again (except for fictional scenario "Siege of Edo Castle). Historically, he apparently went mad before he died, supposedly [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone felt guilty]] over his betrayal. He also had no heir, so [[RewardedAsTraitorDeserves [[RewardedAsATraitorDeserves his clan was effectively disbanded]] and the rest of his fief was absorbed into neighboring Ikeda clan.
21st Jul '17 5:47:20 AM Phoenixion
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* TheApprentice: WordOfGod implies she's the apprentice of Mochizuki Chiyome, who according to legend, was the leader of Takeda's female ninja.
21st Jul '17 5:36:06 AM Phoenixion
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* NaughtyNun: More like Naughty Miko, but really, besides being fanservice-y, she's really flirty.



%%* RavenHairIvorySkin

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%%* RavenHairIvorySkin* RavenHairIvorySkin: Has pale skin and black hair, to show classical good looks.



* AdaptationExpansion: There's no historical record where Hideyoshi ever be a friend with any Saika Magoichi.

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* AdaptationExpansion: There's no historical record where Hideyoshi ever be a friend with any bearers of the title Saika Magoichi.



* MythologyGag: In ''Spirit of Sanada'' during Battle of Mikatagahara, he attempted to infiltrate Takeda main camp through ninja path to attack Shingen, prompting you to stop him. In the first game, this is how he killed Shingen.



* HappilyMarried: with Nene, and likely with Chacha, too.

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* HappilyMarried: with Nene, and likely with Chacha, too.Nene.



* RedOniBlueOni: She's the red to Nobuyuki's blue. However, she's the blue to Yukimura's red.



%%* YamatoNadeshiko

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%%* YamatoNadeshiko* YamatoNadeshiko: After marrying Nobuyuki, she tries her best to be proper wife and daughter-in-law. In ''Spirit of Sanada'', she even looks {{Adorkable}} when she greets Masayuki.



* YouLookFamiliar: He looks like a generic "young" officer.[[/folder]]

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* YouLookFamiliar: He looks like a generic "young" officer.officer.
* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: Disappears after Sekigara and is never mentioned again (except for fictional scenario "Siege of Edo Castle). Historically, he apparently went mad before he died, supposedly [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone felt guilty]] over his betrayal. He also had no heir, so [[RewardedAsTraitorDeserves his clan was effectively disbanded]] and the rest of his fief was absorbed into neighboring Ikeda clan.
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16th Jul '17 6:38:54 AM Phoenixion
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* EvilOldFolks: In ''2''. Unlike Ujiyasu, he's not often seen in a positive light. He doesn't look very old in ''3'' onwards, though. Once again averted in ''4'', since not only he's not that cowardly or evil, he's also no longer using the 'old man' model.

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* EvilOldFolks: In ''2''. Unlike Ujiyasu, he's not often seen in a positive light. He doesn't look Subverted in ''2:Empires'' where he uses younger ('middle-aged') character model, though his personality isn't very old different. Also subverted in ''3'' onwards, though. Once again ''3'', since he also uses 'middle-aged' character model, though he's still bit of cowardly. Finally averted in ''4'', since not only he's not that cowardly or evil, he's also no longer using the 'old man' model.


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* HollywoodOld: Despite using 'elderly' generic model in ''2'', he's actually only in his ''fifties'' by the time he died in Odawara. Doubles as YoungerThanTheyLook. This is perhaps why Koei gave him younger model as of ''2:Empires'', ''3'', ''4'', and onwards.
15th Jul '17 1:29:33 AM Phoenixion
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* HorribleJudgeOfCharacter: At least to begin with. Seriously, Mitsuhide? You believed Oda Nobunaga, called the Demon King for his ruthlessness, would create a land of compassion and peace?

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* HorribleJudgeOfCharacter: HorribleJudgeOfCharacter:
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At least to begin with. Seriously, Mitsuhide? You believed Oda Nobunaga, called the Demon King for his ruthlessness, would create a land of compassion and peace?peace?
** Worse in ''4'', where he's genuinely surprised when Hisahide finally betrayed Nobunaga in Kishu, despite Hisahide has repeatedly shown he's not loyal. Even Hisahide himself lampshades this. At least Nobunaga is a WellIntentionedExtremist, but Hisahide? [[CardCarryingVillain He is definitely not.]]
13th Jul '17 7:43:40 AM Phoenixion
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* ActionGirl: Especially in ''3'', where she is more actionized.

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* ActionGirl: Especially in ''3'', where As of ''3'' onward, she is more actionized.



* DownerEnding: In ''2''.

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* DownerEnding: In ''2''.her own story for ''2'', Nagamasa dies.



* FieryRedhead: Only in ''1''.



* HairOfGoldHeartOfGold: Since ''2'' onward, of mousy brown variant.



* LadyOfWar: Especially in the third game.

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* LadyOfWar: Especially As of ''3'' onward, she's more matured and elegant in the third game.combat.
7th Jul '17 6:14:57 AM Phoenixion
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* ParentalSubstitute: For Chacha in ''Spirit of Sanada'', along with Nene. According to them both, they do this for Nagamasa, Oichi, and Katsuie.
7th Jul '17 6:11:50 AM Phoenixion
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** Averted when Chacha finally becomes playable in ''Spirit of Sanada''. She's more like a daughter figure for both Hideyoshi and Nene. As a result, Nene is nicer and motherly to her as well.
4th Jul '17 5:53:29 AM Phoenixion
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* AmbiguouslyBi: In the Japanese version he's clearly attracted to both Ranmaru and his wife, but sexuality is still relatively unimportant to him compared to the work of conquest.

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* AmbiguouslyBi: In the Japanese version he's clearly attracted to both Ranmaru and his wife, but sexuality is still relatively unimportant to him compared to the work of conquest. It's worth noting that he's included among bisexual male in his Wikipedia page (as homosexual/bisexual relationship between samurai lord and their pageboys aren't uncommon at the time, even if rarely (or never) shown in public).


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* AlasPoorVillain: He's definitely seen as a villain by Hashiba forces in Yamazaki. Nevertheless, in ''4'', they seem to pity him when he's finally killed at the end of the battle.
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