History Characters / RedDeadRedemption

14th Feb '17 11:13:27 AM Universalist
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* DirtyCoward: Whenever he encounters John, a man he truly loathes, he '''''never''''' faces him. Bill prefers to send his men after him, and in the mission in which h
e is killed, he doesn't bother to stay behind and gun down his friend, opting to flee with Col. Allende instead.

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* DirtyCoward: Whenever he encounters John, a man he truly loathes, he '''''never''''' faces him. Bill prefers to send his men after him, and in the mission in which h
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he is killed, he doesn't bother to stay behind and gun down his friend, opting to flee with Col. Allende instead.
11th Feb '17 1:37:21 AM Crackalacking
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** [[spoiler: 3 years after John is killed, Edgar ''laughes'' as he tells Jack he remembers his father, and tells him to get lost before he kills him, too. [[AssholeVictim He doesn't get the chance to]].]]

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** [[spoiler: 3 years after John is killed, killed and Jack confronts him, Edgar ''laughes'' ''laughs'' as he tells Jack he remembers his recalls killing Jack's father, and tells him to get lost before he kills him, too. [[AssholeVictim He doesn't get the chance to]].]]
11th Feb '17 1:34:50 AM Crackalacking
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** [[spoiler: 3 years after John is killed, Edgar ''laughes'' as he tells Jack he remembers his father, and tells him to get lost before he kills him, too. [[AssholeVictim He doesn't get the chance to]].]]
16th Jan '17 12:23:20 AM DastardlyDemolition
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* YouKilledMyFather: So he kills Ross back.

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* YouKilledMyFather: So he kills Ross back. And if the player wants, his wife and brother as well.



* YoungerThanTheyLook: After the TimeSkip, no one can tell he's nineteen.

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* YoungerThanTheyLook: After the TimeSkip, no one can tell he's nineteen.
nineteen. Gameplay wise this is due to the devs reusing John's character model and modifying his face to look somewhat different.
13th Jan '17 12:48:20 AM RobbSony3
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* FauxAffablyEvil: To Marston.

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* FauxAffablyEvil: To Marston.John. [[spoiler: Or Jack, in case you've finished the game.]]
13th Jan '17 12:41:42 AM RobbSony3
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!!Dutch Van Der Linde

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!!Dutch Van Der van der Linde
12th Jan '17 9:48:33 PM RobbSony3
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* {{Buttmonkey}}

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* {{Buttmonkey}}ButtMonkey



* KarmaHoudini: [[spoiler:He commands a platoon to kill John, the last member of Dutch's gang, and comes out of it unscathed and smoking a cigar. [[WrittenByTheWinners He's seen far and wide as a hero, and the man who took out Javier Escuella, Bill Williamson and Dutch as well, stealing all of John's merits]]. Jack makes sure to [[SubvertedTrope subvert the trope]] by finding Edgar and killing him in a duel [[BestServedCold three years later]]. The jury's still out on whether John gets VindicatedByHistory by the "Red Dead" book you can find in ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoV'', which was likely written by Jack.]]

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* KarmaHoudini: KarmaHoudiniWarranty: [[spoiler:He commands a platoon to kill John, the last member of Dutch's gang, and comes out of it unscathed and smoking a cigar. [[WrittenByTheWinners He's seen far and wide as a hero, and the man who took out Javier Escuella, Bill Williamson and Dutch as well, stealing all of John's merits]]. Jack makes sure to [[SubvertedTrope subvert the trope]] by finding Edgar and killing him in a duel [[BestServedCold three years later]]. The jury's still out on whether John gets VindicatedByHistory by the "Red Dead" book you can find in ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoV'', which was likely written by Jack.]]



** Furthermore, it's arguable that he really might not be that different from [[spoiler: ''Dutch''. Both are fighting for what they believe to be best for society, Ross for civilization and Dutch for anarchy, and both display a complete willingness to ShootTheDog if that's what it takes to get there. But the game shows that both of them are hypocrites and neither of their plans are without flaws anyway. The only real difference is that in the end, Ross is remembered as the hero and Dutch as the vicious outlaw, but then the game points out that had more to do with civilization ultimately triumphing and history being WrittenByTheWinners then any real moral superiority of one over the other.]]


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* {{Foil}}: [[spoiler: To Edgar Ross. Both are fighting for what they believe to be best for society, Ross for civilization and Dutch for anarchy, and both display a complete willingness to ShootTheDog if that's what it takes to get there. But the game shows that both of them are hypocrites and neither of their plans are without flaws anyway. The only real difference is that in the end, Ross is remembered as the hero and Dutch as the vicious outlaw, but then the game points out that had more to do with civilization ultimately triumphing and history being WrittenByTheWinners then any real moral superiority of one over the other.]]
30th Dec '16 6:27:04 PM valbuenaversion360
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A mysterious stranger that seems to follow John throughout the latter's quest. He sends John on a series of bizarre quests, seemingly to test John's character.

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A mysterious stranger that seems to follow John throughout the latter's quest.journey. He sends John on a series of bizarre quests, seemingly to test John's character.
29th Dec '16 6:19:39 AM valbuenaversion360
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* HarbingerOfImpendingDoom: In his last encounter with John, he is seen standing by a tree overlooking John's ranch at Beecher's Hope. He cryptically tells John that it's "a beautiful spot". [[spoiler:In the PlayableEpilogue, it's the spot where John, Abigail, and Uncle are buried after the US Army's attack on the ranch.]]

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* HarbingerOfImpendingDoom: In his last encounter with John, he is seen standing by a tree overlooking John's ranch at Beecher's Hope. He cryptically tells John that it's "a beautiful spot". [[spoiler:In the PlayableEpilogue, it's the spot where plot in which John, Abigail, and Uncle are buried after the US Army's attack on the ranch.]]
29th Dec '16 6:07:57 AM valbuenaversion360
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* CrypticConversation: When the topic of his identity or how he came to know so much about John is brought up, always skirts around the question with vague, mildly threatening {{Non Answer}}s.

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* CrypticConversation: When the topic of his identity or how he came to know so much about John is brought up, he always skirts around the question with vague, mildly threatening {{Non Answer}}s.
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