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* HistoricalDomainCharacter
* InTouchWithHisFeminineSide: Or he grows into it.
* ItsAllAboutMe: As a symptom of being a noble, but he does grow from this.
* JustFriends: He believes he and Ferrando are this.
* InTouchWithHisFeminineSide: Or he grows into it.
* ItsAllAboutMe: As a symptom of being a noble, but he does grow from this.
* JustFriends: He believes he and Ferrando are this.
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%% * InTouchWithHisFeminineSide: Or he grows into it.
%% * ItsAllAboutMe: As a symptom of being a noble, but he does grow from this.
%% * JustFriends: He believes he and Ferrando are this.
%% * InTouchWithHisFeminineSide: Or he grows into it.
%% * ItsAllAboutMe: As a symptom of being a noble, but he does grow from this.
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* HistoricalDomainCharacter: Ferdinand really existed.
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* TheApprentice: Ferrando's.
* HyperCompetentSidekick: Ferrando's, again. Picks up everything Ferrando needs him to do quickly.
* TheSquire: Obviously, for Ferrando.
* HyperCompetentSidekick: Ferrando's, again. Picks up everything Ferrando needs him to do quickly.
* TheSquire: Obviously, for Ferrando.
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%% * TheApprentice: Ferrando's.
* HyperCompetentSidekick:Ferrando's, again.Ferrando's. Picks up everything Ferrando needs him to do quickly.
%% * TheSquire: Obviously, for Ferrando.
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* AmbiguousDisorder: In-universe, nobody can really understand him and his thought processes. Defied out of universe, where he has a fairly straightforward case of ADHD.
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* AmbiguousDisorder: Once again, only in-universe. He doesn't make eye contact, is abrasive without really meaning to be, and tends towards repetitive behaviours such as chewing on the rim of a cup. Out of universe he's clearly autistic.
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* SexlessMarriage: With Leonora.
* {{Transgender}}: He transitioned when he was about seventeen.
* {{Transgender}}: He transitioned when he was about seventeen.
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* {{Transgender}}: He transitioned when he was about seventeen.
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* AgeGapRomance: With Di Luna, who is eleven years younger than him.
** Also had a thing with Di Luna's father, who was notably older than ''him'', before Martin died.
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* AgeGapRomance: With Di Luna, who is eleven years younger than him.
**him. Also had a thing with Di Luna's father, who was notably older than ''him'', before Martin died.
**
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* DesperatelyCravesAttention: DesperatelyCravesAffection: Justified considering his past
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* SexlessMarriage: With Leonora.
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* AnimalMotifs: Gets compared to small, scuttling creatures, including by Manrico and Leonora.
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* ArmchairMilitary: Where the Navy, in which he is ''technically'' an admiral, is concerned.
* CoolHorse: Quicksilver, whose parents he selected himself and whose training he was solely responsible for. He's also ''very'' protective of him.
* FourStarBadass: Albeit a rather dangerous example.
* FrontlineGeneral: He's actually a Captain (and an Admiral [[ModernMajorGeneral despite never having set foot on a ship]], as Frederick, Count of Luna was in history) but medieval military ranks topped out here. He would rather be on the battlefield than behind a desk.
* FrontlineGeneral: He's actually a Captain (and an Admiral [[ModernMajorGeneral despite never having set foot on a ship]], as Frederick, Count of Luna was in history) but medieval military ranks topped out here. He would rather be on the battlefield than behind a desk.
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* MissingMom: His mother doesn't want anything much to do with him, and his father's wife is dead.
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* LoverAndBeloved: Inverted. Di Luna is younger but his rank puts him in a position of power over Ferrando.
* MissingMom: His birth mother doesn't want anything much to do with him, and his father's wife isdead.dead.
* ModernMajorGeneral: Something of a highly-specific example, and closer to [[Theatre/HMSPinafore Sir Joseph Porter]] than [[Theatre/ThePiratesOfPenzance Major-General Stanley]]. He's an Admiral who has never been to sea but a good army officer.
* MissingMom: His birth mother doesn't want anything much to do with him, and his father's wife is
* ModernMajorGeneral: Something of a highly-specific example, and closer to [[Theatre/HMSPinafore Sir Joseph Porter]] than [[Theatre/ThePiratesOfPenzance Major-General Stanley]]. He's an Admiral who has never been to sea but a good army officer.
* PowerfulPeopleAreSubs
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* ColonelBadassColonelBadass: Or Lieutenant, rather, but this carried similar weight in medieval military to a modern Colonel.
* CoolHorse: Hazel, who was specifically trained with his disabilities in mind.
* CoolHorse: Hazel, who was specifically trained with his disabilities in mind.
* HyperCompetentSidekick: Di Luna's.
* LoverAndBeloved: Inverted with Di Luna, who is a Count ([[InappropriatelyCloseComrades and his boss]]) and therefore holds power over him rather than the reverse but seemingly played straight with Di Luna's father.
* PowerfulPeopleAreSubs: Interestingly, both he ''and'' Di Luna are this way. It seems to work for them, though.
* PrematurelyGreyHaired: Not to the same extent as Di Luna, but his hair is still starting to go grey and he's not quite forty years old yet.
* LoverAndBeloved: Inverted with Di Luna, who is a Count ([[InappropriatelyCloseComrades and his boss]]) and therefore holds power over him rather than the reverse but seemingly played straight with Di Luna's father.
* PowerfulPeopleAreSubs: Interestingly, both he ''and'' Di Luna are this way. It seems to work for them, though.
* PrematurelyGreyHaired: Not to the same extent as Di Luna, but his hair is still starting to go grey and he's not quite forty years old yet.
* SleepingWithTheBoss: No less than twice -- first with Martin the Younger of Sicily, then with Di Luna. (He did not, however, have a thing with Di Luna's grandmother, but she ''did'' value his presence.)
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* UpThroughTheRanks: Started out as an ordinary enlisted man and managed to become Di Luna's [[TheDragon dragon]].
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* UpThroughTheRanks: Started out as an ordinary enlisted man and managed to become Di Luna's [[TheDragon dragon]].dragon]].
!!Leonora
Di Luna's wife and Manrico's lover.
!!Manrico
Leonora's extramarital lover and [[spoiler:the thought-dead V--, as in the opera]].
!!Ines
Leonora's companion and confidante.
!!Ruiz
Manrico's close friend and lieutenant.
* Foil: To Ferrando. He's optimistic, good-natured, even-tempered, friendly, and not to keen on warfare.
!!Azucena
Manrico's [[spoiler:adoptive]] mother.
!!Ferdinand I of Aragon
The historical [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferdinand_I_of_Aragon King Ferdinand I of Aragon]], and Di Luna's older cousin.
* HistoricalDomainCharacter: Ferdinand really existed.
* ReasonableAuthorityFigure
* RoyalsWhoActuallyDoSomething
* WarriorPrince: As is historically accurate. Ferdinand participates in warfare and is also the King.
!!Eleanor of Alburquerque
The historical [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleanor_of_Alburquerque Eleanor of Alburquerque]], and Ferdinand's wife.
* HistoricalDomainCharacter: Like Ferdinand, she really existed.
!!Cristoval
Ferrando's squire.
* TheApprentice: Ferrando's.
* HyperCompetentSidekick: Ferrando's, again. Picks up everything Ferrando needs him to do quickly.
* TheSquire: Obviously, for Ferrando.
!!Ferrando's Ensign
The Ensign in the platoon that Ferrando commands.
* EnsignNewbie: Downplayed. He's younger than Ferrando or Di Luna but he's competent.
* HyperCompetentSidekick: Ferrando's, but deliberately chosen to be this by Ferrando.
*NoNameGiven: Ferrando can't remember his name but doesn't really care to.
!!Leonora
Di Luna's wife and Manrico's lover.
!!Manrico
Leonora's extramarital lover and [[spoiler:the thought-dead V--, as in the opera]].
!!Ines
Leonora's companion and confidante.
!!Ruiz
Manrico's close friend and lieutenant.
* Foil: To Ferrando. He's optimistic, good-natured, even-tempered, friendly, and not to keen on warfare.
!!Azucena
Manrico's [[spoiler:adoptive]] mother.
!!Ferdinand I of Aragon
The historical [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferdinand_I_of_Aragon King Ferdinand I of Aragon]], and Di Luna's older cousin.
* HistoricalDomainCharacter: Ferdinand really existed.
* ReasonableAuthorityFigure
* RoyalsWhoActuallyDoSomething
* WarriorPrince: As is historically accurate. Ferdinand participates in warfare and is also the King.
!!Eleanor of Alburquerque
The historical [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleanor_of_Alburquerque Eleanor of Alburquerque]], and Ferdinand's wife.
* HistoricalDomainCharacter: Like Ferdinand, she really existed.
!!Cristoval
Ferrando's squire.
* TheApprentice: Ferrando's.
* HyperCompetentSidekick: Ferrando's, again. Picks up everything Ferrando needs him to do quickly.
* TheSquire: Obviously, for Ferrando.
!!Ferrando's Ensign
The Ensign in the platoon that Ferrando commands.
* EnsignNewbie: Downplayed. He's younger than Ferrando or Di Luna but he's competent.
* HyperCompetentSidekick: Ferrando's, but deliberately chosen to be this by Ferrando.
*NoNameGiven: Ferrando can't remember his name but doesn't really care to.
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* AggressiveSubmissiveAgeGapRomance: With Ferrando, who is eleven years older than him.
* AggressiveSubmissive: To Leonora. She isn't that into it.
* AggressiveSubmissive: To Leonora. She isn't that into it.
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* AgeGapRomance: With Di Luna, who is eleven years younger than him.
** Also had a thing with Di Luna's father, who was notably older than ''him'', before Martin died.
** Also had a thing with Di Luna's father, who was notably older than ''him'', before Martin died.
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* OldSchoolChivalry: Although he manipulates it for his own ends. As in the opera he refuses to summon his guards to arrest Manrico because their fight is person.
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* WickedCultured: Downplayed. He's well-read and musical and can read and write in several languages (which would have been expected of a nobleman in the 15th century) but still screws over other people to get ahead.
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* DisabledInTheAdaptation: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPvGIZAJSM8 Some productions of]] [[https://youtu.be/KCt1X0wwSjQ the original opera]] will give Ferrando some sort of physical disability but it's not canonical.
* EyepatchOfPower: Justified. Ferrando has seen several years of military service and lost his eye to a cannon backfiring on him.
* EyepatchOfPower: Justified. Ferrando has seen several years of military service and lost his eye to a cannon backfiring on him.
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Tropes pertaining to characters from Fanfic/MillePlagasMilleMortesAdduciteVos.
!!Fadrique di Luna, Count of Luna
A young nobleman and officer, who is the illegitimate son of Martin the Younger of Sicily.
* AggressiveSubmissive
* AmbiguousDisorder: In-universe, nobody can really understand him and his thought processes. Defied out of universe, where he has a fairly straightforward case of ADHD.
* ControlFreak
* CrazyJealousGuy: Threatens to kill Leonora and Manrico because Leonora is having an affair. Also threatens to kill Ferrando for not telling him when Ferrando tries to talk him down from it.
* DarkAndTroubledPast
* DiseaseByAnyOtherName: As ADHD hadn't yet been named.
* FreudianExcuse: Was orphaned as a child and essentially raised prior to that to ''only'' be a replacement for V-- or to find V--.
* HistoricalDomainCharacter
* InTouchWithHisFeminineSide: Or he grows into it.
* ItsAllAboutMe: As a symptom of being a noble, but he does grow from this.
* JustFriends: He believes he and Ferrando are this.
* LivingEmotionalCrutch: Ferrando is this to him. In return, he is this for Ferrando.
* MissingMom: His mother doesn't want anything much to do with him, and his father's wife is dead.
* MoodSwinger
* ObliviousToLove: Doesn't know Ferrando is in love with him, despite him being as obvious as possible about it.
* OfficerAndAGentleman: He's an admiral (never mind that he's never actually been at sea), the illegitimate son of a King, and a Count.
* PrematurelyGreyHaired: His hair went grey in his early 20s and is now completely silver, not that he seems to mind this.
* ReplacementGoldfish: He was born about ten months after V-- disappeared.
* {{Transgender}}: He transitioned when he was about seventeen.
!!Ferrando
An older officer in Di Luna's army.
* AmbiguousDisorder: Once again, only in-universe. He doesn't make eye contact, is abrasive without really meaning to be, and tends towards repetitive behaviours such as chewing on the rim of a cup. Out of universe he's clearly autistic.
* BadassBureaucrat: Does most of the administrative duties for Di Luna's army regiment, but he's still efficient with a sword.
* ColonelBadass
* DarkAndTroubledPast: In a slightly different way to [[Theatre/IlTrovatore the source material]].
** In the source material it's implied that Ferrando found the half-burned body of (supposedly) the infant Manrico (then García) shortly after he was burned. Here, he finds what he thinks is V--'s body several years after the fact.
** Also has burn scars over a lot of the right side of his upper body, as well as being missing an eye.
* FirstNameBasis: The only person, aside from his cousin, to call Di Luna by his first name. In return, Di Luna calls him by his first name, while most other people call him either "Di Luna's officer" or (if he outranks them) "sir".
* ReasonableAuthorityFigure: For the most part. He can still be a little abrasive but he generally views the enlisted men with respect.
* SouthpawAdvantage: His being left handed gives him an advantage in medieval warfare.
* UpThroughTheRanks: Started out as an ordinary enlisted man and managed to become Di Luna's [[TheDragon dragon]].
!!Fadrique di Luna, Count of Luna
A young nobleman and officer, who is the illegitimate son of Martin the Younger of Sicily.
* AggressiveSubmissive
* AmbiguousDisorder: In-universe, nobody can really understand him and his thought processes. Defied out of universe, where he has a fairly straightforward case of ADHD.
* ControlFreak
* CrazyJealousGuy: Threatens to kill Leonora and Manrico because Leonora is having an affair. Also threatens to kill Ferrando for not telling him when Ferrando tries to talk him down from it.
* DarkAndTroubledPast
* DiseaseByAnyOtherName: As ADHD hadn't yet been named.
* FreudianExcuse: Was orphaned as a child and essentially raised prior to that to ''only'' be a replacement for V-- or to find V--.
* HistoricalDomainCharacter
* InTouchWithHisFeminineSide: Or he grows into it.
* ItsAllAboutMe: As a symptom of being a noble, but he does grow from this.
* JustFriends: He believes he and Ferrando are this.
* LivingEmotionalCrutch: Ferrando is this to him. In return, he is this for Ferrando.
* MissingMom: His mother doesn't want anything much to do with him, and his father's wife is dead.
* MoodSwinger
* ObliviousToLove: Doesn't know Ferrando is in love with him, despite him being as obvious as possible about it.
* OfficerAndAGentleman: He's an admiral (never mind that he's never actually been at sea), the illegitimate son of a King, and a Count.
* PrematurelyGreyHaired: His hair went grey in his early 20s and is now completely silver, not that he seems to mind this.
* ReplacementGoldfish: He was born about ten months after V-- disappeared.
* {{Transgender}}: He transitioned when he was about seventeen.
!!Ferrando
An older officer in Di Luna's army.
* AmbiguousDisorder: Once again, only in-universe. He doesn't make eye contact, is abrasive without really meaning to be, and tends towards repetitive behaviours such as chewing on the rim of a cup. Out of universe he's clearly autistic.
* BadassBureaucrat: Does most of the administrative duties for Di Luna's army regiment, but he's still efficient with a sword.
* ColonelBadass
* DarkAndTroubledPast: In a slightly different way to [[Theatre/IlTrovatore the source material]].
** In the source material it's implied that Ferrando found the half-burned body of (supposedly) the infant Manrico (then García) shortly after he was burned. Here, he finds what he thinks is V--'s body several years after the fact.
** Also has burn scars over a lot of the right side of his upper body, as well as being missing an eye.
* FirstNameBasis: The only person, aside from his cousin, to call Di Luna by his first name. In return, Di Luna calls him by his first name, while most other people call him either "Di Luna's officer" or (if he outranks them) "sir".
* ReasonableAuthorityFigure: For the most part. He can still be a little abrasive but he generally views the enlisted men with respect.
* SouthpawAdvantage: His being left handed gives him an advantage in medieval warfare.
* UpThroughTheRanks: Started out as an ordinary enlisted man and managed to become Di Luna's [[TheDragon dragon]].
