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* ButNotTooBlack: Is heavily against the rest of the group’s “gangsta” image and unfamiliar with even the most influential hip hop artists, including Music/TheNotoriousBIG [[{{Irony}} Despite signing to Bad Boy Records]].
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* TooDumbToLive: When the group goes to Ohio for a show, Chopper refuses to join them, preferring to stay behind in New Orleans, the previous tour destination and Chopper’s hometown. When he goes in for an interview with a local radio station whose host [[LampshadeHanging wonders why/how Chopper snuck away from the group]], he responds with “As long as Bad Boy don’t find out”.. [[WhatAnIdiot despite being on camera]].
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* TooDumbToLive: When the group goes to Ohio for a show, Chopper refuses to join them, preferring to stay behind in New Orleans, the previous tour destination and Chopper’s hometown. When he goes in for an interview with a local radio station whose host [[LampshadeHanging wonders why/how Chopper snuck away from the group]], he responds with “As long as Bad Boy don’t find out”.. [[WhatAnIdiot out”... despite being on camera]].camera.
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* JerkassHasAPoint: The group was clearly [[SmallNameBigEgo acting very entitled in “No Cheesecake ‘Til Brooklyn” despite having no actual music released yet]]; hell, [[UpToEleven they didn’t even have a name yet]]!
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* JerkassHasAPoint: The group was clearly [[SmallNameBigEgo acting very entitled in “No Cheesecake ‘Til Brooklyn” despite having no actual music released yet]]; hell, [[UpToEleven they didn’t even have a name yet]]!yet!
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* ScrewThisImOuttaHere: He decides to just ditch the group in the series finale. That's basically the final straw that forces Diddy to dismantle Da Band.
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* UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom: Him deciding to just ditch the group in the series finale is basically the straw that broke Diddy's back, to which he decides to dismantle Da Band.
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* PretentiousPronunciation: The "Dylan" in his stage name, "Dylan Dilinjah" is pronounced "Die-lawn". His government name, "Dylan John", is pronounced the traditional way.
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[[caption-width-right:250:''”I crash all parties: White, black, Black, Hispanic, [[AsLongAsItSoundsForeign Demanic, Chicanic, Comanic, Omanic, Commando!”'']]
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* ManChild: This ''would'' count.. if Chopper weren’t actually 15-16 during the show’s run.
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* ManChild: This ''would'' count.. if Chopper weren’t actually 15-16 {{Manchild}}: Somewhat justified; he was about 17-19 during the show’s show's run.
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* YoungerThanTheyLook: You might think that Chopper is at least a young adult by the time of the show’s filming, but as it turns out, Chopper lied about his age to avoid legal trouble while the group was still together. He was actually about 15 in Season 1 and 16-17 in Season 2-3.
* TheLoad: He's usually the one missing important events and slacking off when there's work to be done. Many conversations are had concerning whether or not he should just be dropped from the group entirely.
* TheReasonYouSuckSpeech: He's often on the receiving end of this, as everyone has the opportunity to call out his lazy, manipulative behavior.
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* ButNotTooBlack: Bentley acts very sophisticated and dorky, which most likely contributed to his NoRespectGuy status when first introduced.
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* TheWhitestBlackGuy: Bentley acts very sophisticated and dorky, which most likely contributed to his NoRespectGuy status when first introduced.
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* SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute: For Bentley in Season 3 as Da Band's dorky tour manager and handler.
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[[folder:Jason]]
!!Jason Wiley
Da Band's tour manager during Season 3. He is the former Vice President of Marketing at Bad Boy.
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* NiceGuy: He clearly cares about the group and is nothing but polite to all of them.
* OnlySaneMan: He's more often than not the calm voice of reason keeping Da Band in check.
* PrecisionFStrike: Subverted. He's no stranger to swearing, though not as much as the band members. However, one moment in the show sells the illusion.
-->''(when Fred is yelling at Sara)'' '''FRED!''' ''Fred!''...'''FRED! [[BigShutUp SHUT THE]] [[AtomicFBomb FUCK UP]], MY NIGGA!'''
* ReasonableAuthorityFigure: He's a calm, rational guy who just wants to make sure Da Band's touring goes as smoothly as possible.
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!!Jason Wiley
Da Band's tour manager during Season 3. He is the former Vice President of Marketing at Bad Boy.
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* NiceGuy: He clearly cares about the group and is nothing but polite to all of them.
* OnlySaneMan: He's more often than not the calm voice of reason keeping Da Band in check.
* PrecisionFStrike: Subverted. He's no stranger to swearing, though not as much as the band members. However, one moment in the show sells the illusion.
-->''(when Fred is yelling at Sara)'' '''FRED!''' ''Fred!''...'''FRED! [[BigShutUp SHUT THE]] [[AtomicFBomb FUCK UP]], MY NIGGA!'''
* ReasonableAuthorityFigure: He's a calm, rational guy who just wants to make sure Da Band's touring goes as smoothly as possible.
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* TheFriendNobodyLikes: ''Nobody.'' Well, aside from Sara, but she’s married to him, so it makes sense. [[spoiler: Cruelly subverted after the series’ conclusion, as the couple has gotten into many domestic altercations, leading to several arrests between both of them, and this is heavily implied to be caused by Tony.]]
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* TheFriendNobodyLikes: ''Nobody.'' Well, aside from Sara, but she’s married to him, so it makes sense. [[spoiler: Cruelly subverted after the series’ conclusion, as the couple has gotten into many domestic altercations, leading to several arrests between both of them, and this is heavily implied to be caused by Tony.]]
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* {{Irony}}: Sara seems genuinely upset by Dylan’s high risk of going to jail in Season 3. [[spoiler: Sara is the only member of the group to serve jail time since Making the Band 2’s conclusion, for domestic violence involving Tony.]]
* GoshDarnItToHeck: She'll often use mild substitutes for swear words. This is justified by her being a mother and not wanting to leave a bad example for her children.
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!Season 1 Contestants
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!!Kimberly "Mysterious" Bert
A rapper from Detroit. She was eliminated in the final decision.
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* BerserkerRage: An iconic moment of the show is when she loses the finals and [[{{Understatement}} doesn't take it very well]]. She breaks a wine glass ''with her bare hands'', starts cussing Diddy out, then storms outside, trashing public property in grief.
* TheBusCameBack: She returns for the eponymous episode "Mysterious Is Back" in Season 2.
* TheFriendNobodyLikes: When she's brought back in for a potential feature on Da Band's debut album, nobody is a fan of the idea. Subverted in Season 1 where it seemed that most people liked her, especially [[NiceGuy Sara]] who had the added benefit of also hailing from Detroit.
* TraumaCongaLine: It was ''not'' smooth sailing for her throughout the season. She'd regularly have nervous breakdowns, her sister goes missing, she later finds out that she's been dead this whole time and had her body stuffed into trash bags, she missed her funeral to stay in the competition, and she doesn't make the cut anyway.
* YankTheDogsChain: Despite everything listed under her TraumaCongaLine, she's a finalist in the competition. Then, she doesn't make the cut. Ouch.
!Season 1 Contestants
[[folder:Mysterious]]
!!Kimberly "Mysterious" Bert
A rapper from Detroit. She was eliminated in the final decision.
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* BerserkerRage: An iconic moment of the show is when she loses the finals and [[{{Understatement}} doesn't take it very well]]. She breaks a wine glass ''with her bare hands'', starts cussing Diddy out, then storms outside, trashing public property in grief.
* TheBusCameBack: She returns for the eponymous episode "Mysterious Is Back" in Season 2.
* TheFriendNobodyLikes: When she's brought back in for a potential feature on Da Band's debut album, nobody is a fan of the idea. Subverted in Season 1 where it seemed that most people liked her, especially [[NiceGuy Sara]] who had the added benefit of also hailing from Detroit.
* TraumaCongaLine: It was ''not'' smooth sailing for her throughout the season. She'd regularly have nervous breakdowns, her sister goes missing, she later finds out that she's been dead this whole time and had her body stuffed into trash bags, she missed her funeral to stay in the competition, and she doesn't make the cut anyway.
* YankTheDogsChain: Despite everything listed under her TraumaCongaLine, she's a finalist in the competition. Then, she doesn't make the cut. Ouch.
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* ItIsPronouncedTroPay: “Dylan”, as in his stage name “Dylan Dilinjah”, is pronounced “Die-lawn”. “Dylan”, as in his real name “Dylan John”, is pronounced the traditional way.
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* {{Adorkable}}: His dorky personality is quite endearing.
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* [[DoggedNiceGuy Dogged Nice Girl]]: Her attempts to diffuse situations or get the group to listen to her in general without raising her voice are met with spite.
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* BadBoss: Depending on who you ask. It’s generally agreed that he’s more of a WellIntentionedExtremist.
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* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: Diddy genuinely wants to see his group(s) successful and all of his excruciating initiation processes are simply in an attempt to harden them enough to survive in such a harsh industry. It’s pretty telling that he appealed to a judge to get Dylan out of jail when he was well on his way to it because he saw the latter’s potential.
* PetTheDog: He appeals to a judge to keep Dylan from going to prison because he saw his potential and even had him selected as a final member of the group.
* ToughLove: His initiation processes are usually very exhausting and even humiliating (i.e. the infamous [[NeverLiveItDown cheesecake walk]]) and he never tries to coddle anyone but he’s doing it to toughen up his artists for an industry that shows no mercy.
* PetTheDog: He appeals to a judge to keep Dylan from going to prison because he saw his potential and even had him selected as a final member of the group.
* ToughLove: His initiation processes are usually very exhausting and even humiliating (i.e. the infamous [[NeverLiveItDown cheesecake walk]]) and he never tries to coddle anyone but he’s doing it to toughen up his artists for an industry that shows no mercy.
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* {{Hypocrite}}: Babs is furious when Sara goes behind the group’s backs to mouth off to a Christian radio station about the band’s smoking habits, despite such habits being on full display in previous episodes.
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* {{Hypocrite}}: Usually in regards to how she treats Sara.
** Babs gets annoyed with Sara for wanting to take time off of touring to visit her family, of whom she has a mother who’s undergoing surgery. Earlier in the series, Babs gets so frustrated with the group, specifically Ness for sabotaging her hair appointment and trying to fight her, that she decides to leave the house and visit her family for a while.
** Babs is furious when Sara goes behind the group’s backs to mouth off to a Christian radio station about the band’s smoking habits, despite such habits being on full display in previous episodes.
** Babs gets annoyed with Sara for wanting to take time off of touring to visit her family, of whom she has a mother who’s undergoing surgery. Earlier in the series, Babs gets so frustrated with the group, specifically Ness for sabotaging her hair appointment and trying to fight her, that she decides to leave the house and visit her family for a while.
** Babs is furious when Sara goes behind the group’s backs to mouth off to a Christian radio station about the band’s smoking habits, despite such habits being on full display in previous episodes.
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* ItsPronouncedTroPay: “Dylan”, as in his stage name “Dylan Dilinjah”, is pronounced “Die-lawn”. “Dylan”, as in his real name “Dylan John”, is pronounced the traditional way.
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* ItsPronouncedTroPay: ItIsPronouncedTroPay: “Dylan”, as in his stage name “Dylan Dilinjah”, is pronounced “Die-lawn”. “Dylan”, as in his real name “Dylan John”, is pronounced the traditional way.
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Not a character trope
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* LaserGuidedKarma: Dissing Fred and his family gets him choked out by Fred [[CrowningMomentOfFunny with his pants down]], sucker punched while in the studio, and beaten up in the hallway (though he does put Fred in a headlock thanks to there not being much room to work with).
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* LaserGuidedKarma: Dissing Fred and his family gets him choked out by Fred [[CrowningMomentOfFunny [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments with his pants down]], sucker punched while in the studio, and beaten up in the hallway (though he does put Fred in a headlock thanks to there not being much room to work with).
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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Finally perfecting her vocals for “Tonight” in “Same Ol’ Chopper”.
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-->[[SeriesEstablishingMoment “I want me..]] [[CrowningMomentOfFunny ..a piece of cheesecake.”]]
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-->[[SeriesEstablishingMoment “I want me..]] [[CrowningMomentOfFunny ..[[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments ..a piece of cheesecake.”]]
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* GenreSavvy: Had the foresight to (attempt to) read the fine print on the advance contracts, but couldn’t act on it as the rest of the band forced her to sign it (if even one member refuses to sign it, ''no one'' gets their money). [[spoiler: As she implied, something goes wrong: the checks get delayed by a week.]]
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* OnlySaneMan: Surprisingly assumes this role in “Pay Me Now or See You Later”, when everyone else (except [[GenreSavvy Sara]], who was bullied into signing the contract she knew [[ReadTheFinePrint was going to have some sort of catch]]) is freaking out since they didn’t get their money when they thought they would.
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* OnlySaneMan: Surprisingly assumes this role in “Pay Me Now or See You Later”, when everyone else (except [[GenreSavvy Sara]], Sara, who was bullied into signing the contract she knew [[ReadTheFinePrint was going to have some sort of catch]]) is freaking out since they didn’t get their money when they thought they would.
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-->[[SeriesEstablishingMoment “I want me.]][[CrowningMomentOfFunny ..me..]] [[CrowningMomentOfFunny ..a piece of cheesecake.”]]
”]]
Founder of Bad Boy Records.
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* WellIntentionedExtremist: The “cheesecake walk” and the many exercises Diddy makes Da Band do are used as team-building exercises, and proof to him that the group would do anything to make their dreams come true.
* JerkassHasAPoint: The group was clearly [[SmallNameBigEgo acting very entitled in “No Cheesecake ‘Til Brooklyn” despite having no actual music released yet]]; hell, [[UpToEleven they didn’t even have a name yet]]!
Founder of Bad Boy Records.
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* WellIntentionedExtremist: The “cheesecake walk” and the many exercises Diddy makes Da Band do are used as team-building exercises, and proof to him that the group would do anything to make their dreams come true.
* JerkassHasAPoint: The group was clearly [[SmallNameBigEgo acting very entitled in “No Cheesecake ‘Til Brooklyn” despite having no actual music released yet]]; hell, [[UpToEleven they didn’t even have a name yet]]!
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* ButNotTooBlack: Is heavily against the rest of the group’s “gangsta” image and unfamiliar with even the most influential hip hop artists, including Music/TheNotoriousBIG [[{{Irony}} Despite signing to Bad Boy Records]].
** Despite auditioning for and eventually being signed to Bad Boy Records, albeit into a group made up of five emcees, Sara knows next to nothing about the history of hip-hop, most egregiously the lyrics to Music/TheNotoriousBIG’s “Juicy”.
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* NotSoAboveItAll: Partakes in a very loud and obnoxious party with the group late at night into the early morning when [[TheWoobie Sara]] is trying to sleep, already having gone through enough stress with her band members and not being with her family.
* OnlySaneMan: Usually a very levelheaded, down-to-earth guy and the peacekeeper of the group.
* ReasonableAuthorityFigure: A nice, friendly guy who only wants the best for Da Band.
* OnlySaneMan: Usually a very levelheaded, down-to-earth guy and the peacekeeper of the group.
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* TheDreaded: Boy, is he ever. If Tony ever drops by Diddy’s house, you can bet the whole band (except Sara) will start complaining.
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* {{Jerkass}}: He is not a pleasant guy.
* PetTheDog: Some of the talks he has with his wife Sara when she’s feeling lonely and/or stressed are genuinely heartwarming.
* PetTheDog: Some of the talks he has with his wife Sara when she’s feeling lonely and/or stressed are genuinely heartwarming.
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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Finally perfecting her vocals for “Tonight” in “Same Ol’ Chopper”.
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!!Derek “Fonzworth Bentley” Watkins
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A close friend and associate of Diddy. Bentley manages the group with Phil, being introduced to the series during Season 2.
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* {{Adorkable}}: His dorky personality is quite endearing.
* ButNotTooBlack: Bentley acts very sophisticated and dorky, which most likely contributed to his NoRespectGuy status when first introduced.
* NoRespectGuy: During his introduction in “If The Butler Can Do It..”. The group slowly warms up to him.
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!!Derek “Fonzworth Bentley” Watkins
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[[caption-width-right:232:''”When we make white people nervous, they create laws called ‘Jim Crow’.”'']]
A close friend and associate of Diddy. Bentley manages the group with Phil, being introduced to the series during Season 2.
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* {{Adorkable}}: His dorky personality is quite endearing.
* ButNotTooBlack: Bentley acts very sophisticated and dorky, which most likely contributed to his NoRespectGuy status when first introduced.
* NoRespectGuy: During his introduction in “If The Butler Can Do It..”. The group slowly warms up to him.
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* ArchNemesis: Fred for the first half of Season 2. They reconcile in the second half after talking to Diddy in “Put ‘Em Up and Throw Down”.
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* ArchNemesis: Ness until the end of “Put ‘Em Up and Throw Down”.
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* TheFriendNobodyLikes: ''Nobody.'' Well, aside from Sara, but she’s married to him, so it makes sense. [[spoiler: Cruelly subverted after the series’ conclusion, as the couple has gotten into many domestic altercations, leading to several arrests between both of them, and this is heavily implied to be caused by Tony.]]
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* TheFriendNobodyLikes: ''Nobody.'' Well, aside from Sara, but she’s married to him, so it makes sense. [[spoiler: Cruelly subverted after the series’ conclusion, as the couple has gotten into many domestic altercations, leading to several arrests between both of them, and this is heavily implied to be caused by Tony.]]]]
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