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* FantasyForbiddingFather: Bob Sr. is a classic example of this, doing his best to try to discourage or outright forbid Bob from gaming.
* FreudianExcuse: Bob Sr. had to raise two children by himself after his wife abandoned the family.
* JerkassHasAPoint: Most of his criticisms of Bob Junior (as well as the rest of the Knights) are spot on but the way he goes about them only results in destroying his son's self-esteem.
* FreudianExcuse: Bob Sr. had to raise two children by himself after his wife abandoned the family.
* JerkassHasAPoint: Most of his criticisms of Bob Junior (as well as the rest of the Knights) are spot on but the way he goes about them only results in destroying his son's self-esteem.
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[[folder: Johnny Kizinski]]
!! Johnny Kizinski
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A Knight of the Dinner Table who left before the strips began, and has turned up a couple of times to sit in on a few games. The Knights are fond of saying "the man could play" but one day his luck ran out and he left the gaming scene. He moved away, got married, has children and runs a Big Juices. A shameless flirt and an opportunist, his overall mentality highlights how the Knights acted before Sara joined.
!! Johnny Kizinski
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A Knight of the Dinner Table who left before the strips began, and has turned up a couple of times to sit in on a few games. The Knights are fond of saying "the man could play" but one day his luck ran out and he left the gaming scene. He moved away, got married, has children and runs a Big Juices. A shameless flirt and an opportunist, his overall mentality highlights how the Knights acted before Sara joined.
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[[folder: Johnny Kizinski]]
Switch]]
!!Johnny Kizinski
Switch
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A Knight of the Dinner Table who leftorg/pmwiki/pub/images/switch_8.jpg]]
Martin "Switch" Wucjik is Crutch's "friend" and former partner in crime before Crutch went straight. Switch is still a criminal and shown to be disloyal, self serving, and a jerk. He'll commit a crime then sell out his friends for reduced sentences. He's thestrips began, and has turned up a couple of times to sit in on a few games. The Knights are fond of saying "the man could play" but one day who gets Bob to help him plan his luck ran out and he left the gaming scene. He moved away, got married, has children and runs heists [[AndYouThoughtItWasAGame letting Bob believe it was for a Big Juices. A shameless flirt and an opportunist, his overall mentality highlights how the Knights acted before Sara joined.roleplaying game]].
!!
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Martin "Switch" Wucjik is Crutch's "friend" and former partner in crime before Crutch went straight. Switch is still a criminal and shown to be disloyal, self serving, and a jerk. He'll commit a crime then sell out his friends for reduced sentences. He's the
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* BornLucky: Until the NoodleIncident when his dice turned on him.
* CasanovaWannabe: And he's married.
* FallenHero: This was the attitude B.A, Bob, Dave and Brian all had toward him before his return to gaming.
* CasanovaWannabe: And he's married.
* FallenHero: This was the attitude B.A, Bob, Dave and Brian all had toward him before his return to gaming.
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* BornLucky: Until AndYouThoughtItWasAGame: After Bob stumbles on Switch planning a heist and mistakes it for a gaming session, Switch plays along and picks his brain for useful tips.
* AndYouThoughtItWasReal: When Switch stumbles on Tank giving Crutch pointers on gamemastering and overhears casual comments about slitting throats and attacking people with flaming oil, he backs away and gets a drink, thinking that Crutch has fallen in with some stone-cold psycho.
* TheStoolPigeon: After getting caught at theNoodleIncident when scene of a heist, he gives up Weird Pete (who had filled in for Bob as "game session consultant") to save his dice turned on him.
* CasanovaWannabe: And he's married.
* FallenHero: Thisown neck. The only reason he doesn't give up Bob is that Bob was too useful to lose.
* TooCleverByHalf: Bob's gaming experience and commitment to roleplaying thieves certainly gives him a good mindset for planning heists but Switch was pushing his luck continuing to rely on Bob. Switch must [[GenreSavvy not be savvy about games]] theattitude B.A, Bob, Dave and Brian all had toward him before his return to gaming. way Bob is.
* AndYouThoughtItWasReal: When Switch stumbles on Tank giving Crutch pointers on gamemastering and overhears casual comments about slitting throats and attacking people with flaming oil, he backs away and gets a drink, thinking that Crutch has fallen in with some stone-cold psycho.
* TheStoolPigeon: After getting caught at the
* CasanovaWannabe: And he's married.
* FallenHero: This
* TooCleverByHalf: Bob's gaming experience and commitment to roleplaying thieves certainly gives him a good mindset for planning heists but Switch was pushing his luck continuing to rely on Bob. Switch must [[GenreSavvy not be savvy about games]] the
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!! Switch
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Martin "Switch" Wucjik is Crutch's "friend" and former partner in crime before Crutch went straight. Switch is still a criminal and shown to be disloyal, self serving, and a jerk. He'll commit a crime then sell out his friends for reduced sentences. He's the one who gets Bob to help him plan his heists [[AndYouThoughtItWasAGame letting Bob believe it was for a roleplaying game]].
!! Switch
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Martin "Switch" Wucjik is Crutch's "friend" and former partner in crime before Crutch went straight. Switch is still a criminal and shown to be disloyal, self serving, and a jerk. He'll commit a crime then sell out his friends for reduced sentences. He's the one who gets Bob to help him plan his heists [[AndYouThoughtItWasAGame letting Bob believe it was for a roleplaying game]].
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[[folder: Switch]]
Cody Winkle]]
!!Switch
Cody Winkle
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Martin "Switch" Wucjik is Crutch's "friend" and former partnerorg/pmwiki/pub/images/cody_12.jpg]]
Seen at a number of game tables but has never fit incrime before Crutch went straight. Switch is still with a criminal and shown to be disloyal, self serving, and a jerk. He'll commit a crime then sell out his friends for reduced sentences. group... not even the Black Hands. He's a local actor who likes to use his acting skills at the one who gets Bob to help him plan table and is known for his heists [[AndYouThoughtItWasAGame letting Bob believe it was for a roleplaying game]]. commitment to story and characterization over game play.
!!
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Seen at a number of game tables but has never fit in
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* AndYouThoughtItWasAGame: After Bob stumbles on Switch planning a heist and mistakes it for a gaming session, Switch plays along and picks his brain for useful tips.
* AndYouThoughtItWasReal: When Switch stumbles on Tank giving Crutch pointers on gamemastering and overhears casual comments about slitting throats and attacking people with flaming oil, he backs away and gets a drink, thinking that Crutch has fallen in with some stone-cold psycho.
* TheStoolPigeon: After getting caught at the scene of a heist, he gives up Weird Pete (who had filled in for Bob as "game session consultant") to save his own neck. The only reason he doesn't give up Bob is that Bob was too useful to lose.
* TooCleverByHalf: Bob's gaming experience and commitment to roleplaying thieves certainly gives him a good mindset for planning heists but Switch was pushing his luck continuing to rely on Bob. Switch must [[GenreSavvy not be savvy about games]] the way Bob is.
* AndYouThoughtItWasReal: When Switch stumbles on Tank giving Crutch pointers on gamemastering and overhears casual comments about slitting throats and attacking people with flaming oil, he backs away and gets a drink, thinking that Crutch has fallen in with some stone-cold psycho.
* TheStoolPigeon: After getting caught at the scene of a heist, he gives up Weird Pete (who had filled in for Bob as "game session consultant") to save his own neck. The only reason he doesn't give up Bob is that Bob was too useful to lose.
* TooCleverByHalf: Bob's gaming experience and commitment to roleplaying thieves certainly gives him a good mindset for planning heists but Switch was pushing his luck continuing to rely on Bob. Switch must [[GenreSavvy not be savvy about games]] the way Bob is.
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* AndYouThoughtItWasAGame: After Bob stumbles on Switch planning a heist and mistakes it for a gaming session, Switch plays along and picks his brain for useful tips.
* AndYouThoughtItWasReal: When Switch stumbles on Tank giving Crutch pointers on gamemastering and overhears casual comments about slitting throats and attacking people with flaming oil, he backs away and gets a drink, thinkingTheRoleplayer: Carried to an extreme that Crutch has fallen makes him intolerable!
* TalkingToThemself: Not inwith some stone-cold psycho.
* TheStoolPigeon: After getting caught atthe scene of usual way. His elf bard, Raphael Hoolizar, inherited a heist, he gives up Weird Pete (who had filled in for Bob as "game session consultant") to save his own neck. The only reason he doesn't give up Bob is that Bob was too useful to lose.
* TooCleverByHalf: Bob's gaming experience and commitment to roleplaying thieves certainly gives him a good mindset for planning heists but Switch was pushing his luck continuing to rely on Bob. Switch must [[GenreSavvy not be savvy about games]] the way Bob is.brownie familiar (and hand puppet) named Hodgy from Brian.
* AndYouThoughtItWasReal: When Switch stumbles on Tank giving Crutch pointers on gamemastering and overhears casual comments about slitting throats and attacking people with flaming oil, he backs away and gets a drink, thinking
* TalkingToThemself: Not in
* TheStoolPigeon: After getting caught at
* TooCleverByHalf: Bob's gaming experience and commitment to roleplaying thieves certainly gives him a good mindset for planning heists but Switch was pushing his luck continuing to rely on Bob. Switch must [[GenreSavvy not be savvy about games]] the way Bob is.
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!! Cody Winkle
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Seen at a number of game tables but has never fit in with a group... not even the Black Hands. He's a local actor who likes to use his acting skills at the table and is known for his commitment to story and characterization over game play.
!! Cody Winkle
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Seen at a number of game tables but has never fit in with a group... not even the Black Hands. He's a local actor who likes to use his acting skills at the table and is known for his commitment to story and characterization over game play.
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[[folder: Cody Winkle]]
Bob's Father]]
!!Cody Winkle
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Seen at a number of game tables but has never fitBob Herzog, Senior
Bob's father, occasionally referenced offscreen as an obstacle to Bob's gaming before finally appearing inwith a group... not even the Black Hands. He's a local actor who likes to use his acting skills at the table and is known for his commitment to story and characterization over game play.comic.
!!
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Seen at a number of game tables but has never fit
Bob's father, occasionally referenced offscreen as an obstacle to Bob's gaming before finally appearing in
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* TheRoleplayer: Carried to an extreme that makes him intolerable!
* TalkingToThemself: Not in the usual way. His elf bard, Raphael Hoolizar, inherited a brownie familiar (and hand puppet) named Hodgy from Brian.
* TalkingToThemself: Not in the usual way. His elf bard, Raphael Hoolizar, inherited a brownie familiar (and hand puppet) named Hodgy from Brian.
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* TheRoleplayer: Carried AbusiveParents: Sheila comes to an extreme believe Papa Herzog is this after actually meeting him and seeing how he verbally abused Bob.
* ToughLove: Forbids Bob from gaming because he considers it a bad influence, but relents after Bob gets a job. When Bob loses thatmakes him intolerable!
job because he gets caught [[PlayingSick malingering]] once too often, he throws Bob out of the house. Once he appears on panel and we see things from his point of view, it's clear that he does care (for instance, he slips Weird Pete some money to give Bob as a "bonus", on condition that he not tell where it came from), and considers it the only way to get Bob to take some responsibility.
*TalkingToThemself: Not WhatTheHellHero: After getting into a game of Cattlepunk (after losing a bet with Weird Pete), he objects to the other players' ComedicSociopathy -- his impression was that the characters were supposed to be larger-than-life Western ''heroes'', not lowlife bushwackers:
-->'''Mr. Herzog:''' Ever see [[Creator/JohnWayne the Duke]] shoot a man in theusual way. His elf bard, Raphael Hoolizar, inherited face? ''Ever?!!'' And without so much as a brownie familiar (and hand puppet) named Hodgy from Brian.''word'' of warning? I don't ''think'' so.
* ToughLove: Forbids Bob from gaming because he considers it a bad influence, but relents after Bob gets a job. When Bob loses that
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-->'''Mr. Herzog:''' Ever see [[Creator/JohnWayne the Duke]] shoot a man in the
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!! Bob Herzog, Senior
Bob's father, occasionally referenced offscreen as an obstacle to Bob's gaming before finally appearing in the comic.
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* AbusiveParents: Sheila comes to believe Papa Herzog is this after actually meeting him and seeing how he verbally abused Bob.
* ToughLove: Forbids Bob from gaming because he considers it a bad influence, but relents after Bob gets a job. When Bob loses that job because he gets caught [[PlayingSick malingering]] once too often, he throws Bob out of the house. Once he appears on panel and we see things from his point of view, it's clear that he does care (for instance, he slips Weird Pete some money to give Bob as a "bonus", on condition that he not tell where it came from), and considers it the only way to get Bob to take some responsibility.
* WhatTheHellHero: After getting into a game of Cattlepunk (after losing a bet with Weird Pete), he objects to the other players' ComedicSociopathy -- his impression was that the characters were supposed to be larger-than-life Western ''heroes'', not lowlife bushwackers:
-->'''Mr. Herzog:''' Ever see [[Creator/JohnWayne the Duke]] shoot a man in the face? ''Ever?!!'' And without so much as a ''word'' of warning? I don't ''think'' so.
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!! Other Groups
[[folder:Ladies of Hack]]
An all-female gaming group that meets separately from the male-dominated Muncie gaming community (though nearly all of them have other groups they play with regularly and for tournament purposes). They're also part of a larger organization of the same name that lobbies Hard8 and the TabletopGame/HackMaster Players' Association to change the sexist depictions of women and some of the more chauvinistic rules (such as the Strength penalty for female characters.) The local group is run by Patty Gauzweiler. Although the LoH are only rarely shown actually gaming, their membership includes most of the strip's prominent female gamers, including Sara, Patty, and several others.
!! Sheila Horowitz
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First mentioned offscreen as the female gamer who beat up B.A. over an in-game dispute, Sheila didn't become an on-screen character for a long time. For a while she was nearly a nemesis of the Knights: then she rather unexpectedly started dating Bob - partly out of admiration for Bob's commitment to the game and partly because he needs mothering. Tends to play [[KnightInSourArmor Knight Errants]].
[[folder:Ladies of Hack]]
An all-female gaming group that meets separately from the male-dominated Muncie gaming community (though nearly all of them have other groups they play with regularly and for tournament purposes). They're also part of a larger organization of the same name that lobbies Hard8 and the TabletopGame/HackMaster Players' Association to change the sexist depictions of women and some of the more chauvinistic rules (such as the Strength penalty for female characters.) The local group is run by Patty Gauzweiler. Although the LoH are only rarely shown actually gaming, their membership includes most of the strip's prominent female gamers, including Sara, Patty, and several others.
!! Sheila Horowitz
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First mentioned offscreen as the female gamer who beat up B.A. over an in-game dispute, Sheila didn't become an on-screen character for a long time. For a while she was nearly a nemesis of the Knights: then she rather unexpectedly started dating Bob - partly out of admiration for Bob's commitment to the game and partly because he needs mothering. Tends to play [[KnightInSourArmor Knight Errants]].
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!! Other Groups
[[folder:Ladies of Hack]]
An all-female gaming group that meets separately from the male-dominated Muncie gaming community (though nearly all of them have other groups they play with regularly and for tournament purposes). They're also part of a larger organization of the same name that lobbies Hard8 and the TabletopGame/HackMaster Players' Association to change the sexist depictions of women and some of the more chauvinistic rules (such as the Strength penalty for female characters.) The local group is run by Patty Gauzweiler. Although the LoH are only rarely shown actually gaming, their membership includes most of the strip's prominent female gamers, including Sara, Patty, and several others.
!! Sheila Horowitz
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[[folder: Squirrely]]
!!Squirrely (aka Squire Lee)
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First mentioned offscreen A chimp [[AllThereInTheManual formerly used as a military research subject,]] who wound up being adopted by Weird Pete. He seems to have a solid grasp of spoken English, the female gamer who beat up B.A. over an in-game dispute, Sheila didn't become an on-screen character for ability to read and operate a long time. For a while she was nearly a nemesis of cash register (although he's never mastered the Knights: then she rather unexpectedly started dating Bob - partly out art of admiration for Bob's commitment to the game making change), and partly because he needs mothering. Tends to play [[KnightInSourArmor Knight Errants]].has even sat in on games. He's a chain-smoker with a wide mean streak. Several characters have suffered AmusingInjuries as a result of crossing him.
[[folder:Ladies of Hack]]
An all-female gaming group that meets separately from the male-dominated Muncie gaming community (though nearly all of them have other groups they play with regularly and for tournament purposes). They're also part of a larger organization of the same name that lobbies Hard8 and the TabletopGame/HackMaster Players' Association to change the sexist depictions of women and some of the more chauvinistic rules (such as the Strength penalty for female characters.) The local group is run by Patty Gauzweiler. Although the LoH are only rarely shown actually gaming, their membership includes most of the strip's prominent female gamers, including Sara, Patty, and several others.
!! Sheila Horowitz
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!!Squirrely (aka Squire Lee)
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* AwwLookTheyReallyDoLoveEachOther: With Bob. As hard as she is on him, and as much as she talks down on/to him, she really ''does'' love him.
* BerserkButton: Brian in general hacks her off, but he really pushes her button when he ropes Bob into his schemes or takes advantage of him. And Brian put a brick on her button when he sent Bob to Hard 8 by mail and the box got ''lost in transit'', and then not even a few weeks later cons Bob into giving him Bob and Sheila's ''rent money'' to finance another scheme. It's only a small exaggeration to say Brian's lucky Sheila didn't kill him.
* DeadpanSnarker: She's got a biting comment for every occasion.
* TheDreaded: Where Brian is dreaded by gamemasters all over Muncie, Sheila is dreaded by pretty much everybody. She's got a nasty streak a mile wide, has a fondness for {{Disproportionate Retribution}}s and doesn't care overly much who gets caught in the crossfire.
* FourEyesZeroSoul: Played straight most of the time; Sheila is ''not'' a nice person and can in fact be decidedly ''awful'' to people around her -- but it gets subverted when she starts dating Bob and her gentler side comes forward a little more.
* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: When she finally meets Bob's father and realizes how abusive Bob Sr. is to his son, Sheila finally gets a look at what her treatment of Bob looks like from the outside, and it doesn't make her happy.
* TheRealMan: Gender-flipped. Possibly the only thing she and Bob have in common: they're there to kill things.
* SitcomArchEnemy: Has been this to B.A. and to Sara, but nowadays she regards her feud with Brian as SeriousBusiness.
* {{Tsundere}} Used to game with the Knights until B.A. accused her of cheating and they got in a fist fight. Sheila was the big reason the Knights were leery about letting Sara join the group.
!! Bridget Keating
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First introduced when the Knights players one by one get caught up in a Vampire LARP. Bridget was a clan leader and tended to use her *ahem* assets and her willingness to Cosplay along with her clan authority to get the guys to do whatever she wanted. Though she's calmed down she's still almost always seen in some kind of sexy cosplay outfit.
* BerserkButton: Brian in general hacks her off, but he really pushes her button when he ropes Bob into his schemes or takes advantage of him. And Brian put a brick on her button when he sent Bob to Hard 8 by mail and the box got ''lost in transit'', and then not even a few weeks later cons Bob into giving him Bob and Sheila's ''rent money'' to finance another scheme. It's only a small exaggeration to say Brian's lucky Sheila didn't kill him.
* DeadpanSnarker: She's got a biting comment for every occasion.
* TheDreaded: Where Brian is dreaded by gamemasters all over Muncie, Sheila is dreaded by pretty much everybody. She's got a nasty streak a mile wide, has a fondness for {{Disproportionate Retribution}}s and doesn't care overly much who gets caught in the crossfire.
* FourEyesZeroSoul: Played straight most of the time; Sheila is ''not'' a nice person and can in fact be decidedly ''awful'' to people around her -- but it gets subverted when she starts dating Bob and her gentler side comes forward a little more.
* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: When she finally meets Bob's father and realizes how abusive Bob Sr. is to his son, Sheila finally gets a look at what her treatment of Bob looks like from the outside, and it doesn't make her happy.
* TheRealMan: Gender-flipped. Possibly the only thing she and Bob have in common: they're there to kill things.
* SitcomArchEnemy: Has been this to B.A. and to Sara, but nowadays she regards her feud with Brian as SeriousBusiness.
* {{Tsundere}} Used to game with the Knights until B.A. accused her of cheating and they got in a fist fight. Sheila was the big reason the Knights were leery about letting Sara join the group.
!! Bridget Keating
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First introduced when the Knights players one by one get caught up in a Vampire LARP. Bridget was a clan leader and tended to use her *ahem* assets and her willingness to Cosplay along with her clan authority to get the guys to do whatever she wanted. Though she's calmed down she's still almost always seen in some kind of sexy cosplay outfit.
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* BerserkButton:
* HeroicComedicSociopath:
--> '''Pete:''' He stole Stevil's wallet and inhaler and crawled into
--> '''Gordo:''' Stevil didn't
--> '''Pete:''' Nah, he's trying to flush him out with the fire extinguisher.
* TheUnintelligible: Though able to understand English very well, Squirrely only speaks in ape noises.
** Lampshaded when Weird Pete - and to a lesser extent, Dave and Gordo - seem to get the gist of everything Squirrely attempts to communicate. Gordo even manages to understand him well enough to successfully play "I Spy" with him.
*
* TheDreaded: Where Brian is dreaded by gamemasters all over Muncie, Sheila is dreaded by
* UnusuallyUninterestingSight: A chimp tending the cash register at your local game store? No big deal.
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[[folder: Croix and
* FourEyesZeroSoul: Played straight most of the time; Sheila is ''not'' a nice person
!!Croix and
* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: When she finally meets
Bob's
* TheRealMan: Gender-flipped. Possibly the only thing she and Bob have in common: they're there
* SitcomArchEnemy: Has been this
* {{Tsundere}} Used to game with the Knights until B.A. accused her
!! Bridget Keating
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First introduced when the Knights players one by one get caught up in a Vampire LARP. Bridget was a clan leader and tended to use her *ahem* assets and her willingness to Cosplay along with her clan authority to get the guys to do whatever she wanted. Though she's calmed down she's still almost always seen in some kind of sexy cosplay outfit.
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* ArtShift: Most strongly in early appearances. She's still drawn a lot less googly-eyed and scribble-fingered than the rest of the cast.
* IHaveBoobsYouMustObey: Most of the time, though hilariously subverted when she tried to charm her way past a KnightTemplar guarding the door at Gary Con.
* TheVamp: Happily uses her cosplay outfits and sex appeal to control others.
!!Trish
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An escort introduced to gaming by Tank. Basically nice.
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* HighClassCallGirl: Works with a service and in good conditions.
* HookerWithAHeartOfGold: Technically an escort with a heart of gold. She's nice to Tank and even stands up for him to his friends. Later, she buys him some really nice gaming merchandise which, to judge Weird Pete's reaction, offset a good chunk of what Tank paid for her services.
* UglyGuyHotWife: Sort of. There was a lot of head-scratching in Muncie when Trish started showing up in public with Tank and appeared to be dating him.
* IHaveBoobsYouMustObey: Most of the time, though hilariously subverted when she tried to charm her way past a KnightTemplar guarding the door at Gary Con.
* TheVamp: Happily uses her cosplay outfits and sex appeal to control others.
!!Trish
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An escort introduced to gaming by Tank. Basically nice.
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* HighClassCallGirl: Works with a service and in good conditions.
* HookerWithAHeartOfGold: Technically an escort with a heart of gold. She's nice to Tank and even stands up for him to his friends. Later, she buys him some really nice gaming merchandise which, to judge Weird Pete's reaction, offset a good chunk of what Tank paid for her services.
* UglyGuyHotWife: Sort of. There was a lot of head-scratching in Muncie when Trish started showing up in public with Tank and appeared to be dating him.
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* ArtShift: Most strongly in early appearances. PrecociousCrush: Croix has a crush on Dave. She's still drawn a lot less googly-eyed and scribble-fingered than the rest of the cast.
* IHaveBoobsYouMustObey: Most of the time, though hilariously subverted when she tried to charm her way past a KnightTemplar guarding the door at Gary Con.
* TheVamp: Happily uses her cosplay outfits and sex appeal to control others.
!!Trish
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An escort introduced to gaming by Tank. Basically nice.
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* HighClassCallGirl: Works with a service and in good conditions.
* HookerWithAHeartOfGold: Technically an escort with a heart of gold. She's nice to Tank and even stands up forprobably ten. It makes him to his friends. Later, she buys him some really nice gaming merchandise which, to judge Weird Pete's reaction, offset a good chunk of what Tank paid for her services.
* UglyGuyHotWife: Sort of. There was a lot of head-scratching in Muncie when Trish started showing up in public with Tank and appeared to be dating him.
little uncomfortable.
* IHaveBoobsYouMustObey: Most of the time, though hilariously subverted when she tried to charm her way past a KnightTemplar guarding the door at Gary Con.
* TheVamp: Happily uses her cosplay outfits and sex appeal to control others.
!!Trish
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An escort introduced to gaming by Tank. Basically nice.
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* HighClassCallGirl: Works with a service and in good conditions.
* HookerWithAHeartOfGold: Technically an escort with a heart of gold. She's nice to Tank and even stands up for
* UglyGuyHotWife: Sort of. There was a lot of head-scratching in Muncie when Trish started showing up in public with Tank and appeared to be dating him.
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!!Squirrely (aka Squire Lee)
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A chimp [[AllThereInTheManual formerly used as a military research subject,]] who wound up being adopted by Weird Pete. He seems to have a solid grasp of spoken English, the ability to read and operate a cash register (although he's never mastered the art of making change), and has even sat in on games. He's a chain-smoker with a wide mean streak. Several characters have suffered AmusingInjuries as a result of crossing him.
!!Squirrely (aka Squire Lee)
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A chimp [[AllThereInTheManual formerly used as a military research subject,]] who wound up being adopted by Weird Pete. He seems to have a solid grasp of spoken English, the ability to read and operate a cash register (although he's never mastered the art of making change), and has even sat in on games. He's a chain-smoker with a wide mean streak. Several characters have suffered AmusingInjuries as a result of crossing him.
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!!Squirrely (aka Squire Lee)
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!! Ty Ferfel
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Nitro's nephew. A
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* BerserkButton: He has several, but they seem to change over time.
* HeroicComedicSociopath:
--> '''Pete:''' He stole Stevil's wallet and inhaler and crawled into the heating duct.
--> '''Gordo:''' Stevil didn't crawl in after him, did he? I tried that once and he stole my glasses and gave me a reverse wedgie.
--> '''Pete:''' Nah, he's trying to flush him out with the fire extinguisher.
* TheUnintelligible: Though able to understand English very well, Squirrely only speaks in ape noises.
** Lampshaded when Weird Pete - and to a lesser extent, Dave and Gordo - seem to get the gist of everything Squirrely attempts to communicate. Gordo even manages to understand him well enough to successfully play "I Spy" with him.
* NearlyNormalAnimal: Chimps are already pretty humanlike, but Squirrely takes it to the next level.
* UnusuallyUninterestingSight: A chimp tending the cash register at your local game store? No big deal.
!!Croix and Hunter
Bob's Niece and Nephew respectively. Bob occasionally tries to run games for them and sometimes has to borrow Croix's laptop to play World of Hackcraft. Croix has an innocent crush on Dave.
* HeroicComedicSociopath:
--> '''Pete:''' He stole Stevil's wallet and inhaler and crawled into the heating duct.
--> '''Gordo:''' Stevil didn't crawl in after him, did he? I tried that once and he stole my glasses and gave me a reverse wedgie.
--> '''Pete:''' Nah, he's trying to flush him out with the fire extinguisher.
* TheUnintelligible: Though able to understand English very well, Squirrely only speaks in ape noises.
** Lampshaded when Weird Pete - and to a lesser extent, Dave and Gordo - seem to get the gist of everything Squirrely attempts to communicate. Gordo even manages to understand him well enough to successfully play "I Spy" with him.
* NearlyNormalAnimal: Chimps are already pretty humanlike, but Squirrely takes it to the next level.
* UnusuallyUninterestingSight: A chimp tending the cash register at your local game store? No big deal.
!!Croix and Hunter
Bob's Niece and Nephew respectively. Bob occasionally tries to run games for them and sometimes has to borrow Croix's laptop to play World of Hackcraft. Croix has an innocent crush on Dave.
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* BerserkButton: ConsummateProfessional: He has several, but they seem actually is this regards to change over time.
* HeroicComedicSociopath:
--> '''Pete:''' He stole Stevil's walletgaming and inhaler and crawled into the heating duct.
--> '''Gordo:''' Stevil didn't crawl in after him, did he? I tried that once and he stole my glasses and gave me a reverse wedgie.
--> '''Pete:''' Nah, he's trying to flush him out with the fire extinguisher.
* TheUnintelligible: Though able to understand English very well, Squirrely only speaks in ape noises.
** Lampshaded when Weird Pete - and to a lesser extent, Dave and Gordo - seem to get the gist of everything Squirrely attempts to communicate. Gordo even manages to understand him well enough to successfully play "I Spy" with him.
* NearlyNormalAnimal: Chimps are already pretty humanlike, but Squirrely takes itis so to the next level.
* UnusuallyUninterestingSight:point of being paid as a temp.
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!! Earl Slackmozer
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Achimp tending rival gamemaster who gets a lot of buzz when he first comes to town, having had a module published by Hard 8 (something B.A. has long tried and failed). At first seems to be the cash register at your local game store? No big deal.
!!Croixsuperstar but eventually loses his shine and Hunter
Bob's Nieceafter being humbled, he and Nephew respectively. Bob occasionally tries to run games for them and sometimes has to borrow Croix's laptop to play World of Hackcraft. Croix has an innocent crush on Dave.B.A. become friends. Earl currently works at Weird Pete's shop.
* HeroicComedicSociopath:
--> '''Pete:''' He stole Stevil's wallet
--> '''Gordo:''' Stevil didn't crawl in after him, did he? I tried that once and he stole my glasses and gave me a reverse wedgie.
--> '''Pete:''' Nah, he's trying to flush him out with the fire extinguisher.
* TheUnintelligible: Though able to understand English very well, Squirrely only speaks in ape noises.
** Lampshaded when Weird Pete - and to a lesser extent, Dave and Gordo - seem to get the gist of everything Squirrely attempts to communicate. Gordo even manages to understand him well enough to successfully play "I Spy" with him.
* NearlyNormalAnimal: Chimps are already pretty humanlike, but Squirrely takes it
* UnusuallyUninterestingSight:
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!! Earl Slackmozer
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!!Croix
Bob's Niece
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* PrecociousCrush: Croix has a crush on Dave. She's probably ten. It makes him a little uncomfortable.
!! Ty Ferfel
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Nitro's nephew. A young gamer that hangs out on the periphery of the community and is often involved in under the table dealings.
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* ConsummateProfessional: He actually is this regards to gaming and is so to the point of being paid as a temp.
!! Earl Slackmozer
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A rival gamemaster who gets a lot of buzz when he first comes to town, having had a module published by Hard 8 (something B.A. has long tried and failed). At first seems to be the superstar but eventually loses his shine and after being humbled, he and B.A. become friends. Earl currently works at Weird Pete's shop.
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!! Ty Ferfel
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Nitro's nephew. A young gamer that hangs out on the periphery of the community and is often involved in under the table dealings.
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* ConsummateProfessional: He actually is this regards to gaming and is so to the point of being paid as a temp.
!! Earl Slackmozer
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A rival gamemaster who gets a lot of buzz when he first comes to town, having had a module published by Hard 8 (something B.A. has long tried and failed). At first seems to be the superstar but eventually loses his shine and after being humbled, he and B.A. become friends. Earl currently works at Weird Pete's shop.
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The third name level gaming group to gain continual focus in the strips. The group is known for its eclectic group of hardcases, people who mostly wouldn't fit in with normal society or even other gamers in many places. Like the other gamemasters, Patti has her quirks which include a swear jar, a time out corner, and the use of M & M's to track experience points, all of which come from Patti's background as a school teacher.
The third name level gaming group to gain continual focus in the strips. The group is known for its eclectic group of hardcases, people who mostly wouldn't fit in with normal society or even other gamers in many places. Like the other gamemasters, Patti has her quirks which include a swear jar, a time out corner, and the use of M & M's to track experience points, all of which come from Patti's background as a school teacher.
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An all-female gaming group
!! Sheila Horowitz
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First mentioned offscreen as the female gamer who beat up B.A. over an in-game dispute, Sheila didn't become an on-screen character for
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* GoodCounterpart: Unlike the Black Hands who are worse than the Knights, the Patty's Perps are optimistic and loving.
* RagtagBunchOfMisfits: They have nothing in common but gaming.
!!Patty Gauzweiler
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The Gamemaster. Patty is a school teacher who hosts games in her trailer and tends to take in lost souls or anyone who looks like they need some mothering. This, perhaps, explains why she was shown in her earliest appearances relentlessly pursuing [[ManChild Dave]] to resume the relationship they once had. Patty is also the Gamemaster for the local but seldom shown Ladies of Hack group consisting of most of the regular female characters. Though she has a basically good heart, Patty is also a master of the evil situation, once manipulating her group's entire party into jumping into a lava pit just so she could win a bet with the other Gamemasters in town.
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* BerserkButton: Brian in general hacks her off, but he really pushes her button when he ropes Bob into his schemes or takes advantage of him. And Brian put a brick on her button when he sent Bob to Hard 8 by mail and the
* DeadpanSnarker: She's got a biting comment for every occasion.
* TheDreaded: Where Brian is dreaded by gamemasters all over Muncie, Sheila is dreaded by pretty much everybody. She's got a nasty streak a mile wide, has a fondness for {{Disproportionate Retribution}}s and doesn't care overly much who
* FourEyesZeroSoul: Played straight most of the
*
* TheRealMan: Gender-flipped. Possibly the only thing she and Bob have
* SitcomArchEnemy: Has been this to B.A. and to Sara, but
!!Patty Gauzweiler
* {{Tsundere}} Used to game with the Knights until B.A. accused her of cheating and they got in a fist fight. Sheila was the big reason the Knights were leery about letting Sara join the group.
!! Bridget Keating
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* EightiesHair: Has a particularly lush and large do.
* FriendToAllChildren: She seems to adore and be adored by all of Muncie’s kids.
* HeroesWantRedheads: BA certainly does.
* InformedAttractiveness: She's supposed to be quite attractive, but drawing attractive women isn't really Jolly's strong point. Her appearance is kind of an artifact; later 'pretty girl' characters are drawn more attractively, but changing Patty's model might make the character unrecognizable.
* MisplacedKindergartenTeacher: Patty actually ''is'' a kindergarten teacher. However, she has difficulties turning the attitude off and ends up treating her gaming group like a bunch of preschoolers, including a "Time Out Corner" with "5 points to ponder".
** Given the way some gamers act in this comic, treating them like preschoolers might be giving them too much credit.
* TeamMom: All up and down the line, she cares for her group very much but also disciplines them like her students.
!!Chad Aguilar
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* FriendToAllChildren: She seems to adore and be adored by all of Muncie’s kids.
* HeroesWantRedheads: BA certainly does.
* InformedAttractiveness: She's supposed to be quite attractive, but drawing attractive women isn't really Jolly's strong point. Her appearance is kind of an artifact; later 'pretty girl' characters are drawn more attractively, but changing Patty's model might make the character unrecognizable.
* MisplacedKindergartenTeacher: Patty actually ''is'' a kindergarten teacher. However, she has difficulties turning the attitude off and ends up treating her gaming group like a bunch of preschoolers, including a "Time Out Corner" with "5 points to ponder".
** Given the way some gamers act in this comic, treating them like preschoolers might be giving them too much credit.
* TeamMom: All up and down the line, she cares for her group very much but also disciplines them like her students.
!!Chad Aguilar
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* EightiesHair: Has a particularly lush and large do.
* FriendToAllChildren: She seems to adore and be adored by all of Muncie’s kids.
* HeroesWantRedheads: BA certainly does.
* InformedAttractiveness:ArtShift: Most strongly in early appearances. She's supposed to be quite attractive, but drawing attractive women isn't really Jolly's strong point. Her appearance is kind of an artifact; later 'pretty girl' characters are still drawn more attractively, but changing Patty's model might make a lot less googly-eyed and scribble-fingered than the character unrecognizable.
rest of the cast.
*MisplacedKindergartenTeacher: Patty actually ''is'' a kindergarten teacher. However, IHaveBoobsYouMustObey: Most of the time, though hilariously subverted when she has difficulties turning tried to charm her way past a KnightTemplar guarding the attitude off door at Gary Con.
* TheVamp: Happily uses her cosplay outfits andends up treating her gaming group like a bunch of preschoolers, including a "Time Out Corner" with "5 points sex appeal to ponder".
** Given the way some gamers act in this comic, treating them like preschoolers might be giving them too much credit.
* TeamMom: All up and down the line, she cares for her group very much but also disciplines them like her students.
!!Chad Aguilar
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!!Trish
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* FriendToAllChildren: She seems to adore and be adored by all of Muncie’s kids.
* HeroesWantRedheads: BA certainly does.
* InformedAttractiveness:
*
* TheVamp: Happily uses her cosplay outfits and
** Given the way some gamers act in this comic, treating them like preschoolers might be giving them too much credit.
* TeamMom: All up and down the line, she cares for her group very much but also disciplines them like her students.
!!Chad Aguilar
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!!Trish
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A long time member of the group. Though Chad fits in socially as a college student, he started gaming in middle school where his munchkin tendencies kept him away from other gaming tables leading Patty to take him in. Today, he's more the team spitfire, easily irritated but a bit more mature as a player. Recently, Chad has been bringing his pacifist fiancee Reese to the table; she's more than a little disturbed by all the violence in these games.
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* ClosetGeek: Chad was very, very reluctant to reveal his hobby to Reese - to the point of hiring [[HookerWithAHeartOfGold Trish]] to impersonate her when the group insisted on being allowed to meet 'Reese'.
* HotBlooded: To a lesser extent than Bob but still present.
* SatelliteCharacter: He's less flawed, and therefore less amusing: he doesn't get much screen time of his own.
!!Eddie "Tank" Rodriguez
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Pretty much the embodiment of the modern gamer geek stereotype, Tank is a large, obese, hairy, timid, thoughtful man who is awkward around women (even by KODT standards.) He's gentle to the point of being an emotional doormat for the rest of the group. For a long time, the only other character he was known to associate with outside of the Perps was Trish, from the Ladies of Hack. This was expanded slightly by the Java Joint spinoff strip, which showed him in a book club with Patty and Sara.
* HotBlooded: To a lesser extent than Bob but still present.
* SatelliteCharacter: He's less flawed, and therefore less amusing: he doesn't get much screen time of his own.
!!Eddie "Tank" Rodriguez
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Pretty much the embodiment of the modern gamer geek stereotype, Tank is a large, obese, hairy, timid, thoughtful man who is awkward around women (even by KODT standards.) He's gentle to the point of being an emotional doormat for the rest of the group. For a long time, the only other character he was known to associate with outside of the Perps was Trish, from the Ladies of Hack. This was expanded slightly by the Java Joint spinoff strip, which showed him in a book club with Patty and Sara.
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* ClosetGeek: Chad HighClassCallGirl: Works with a service and in good conditions.
* HookerWithAHeartOfGold: Technically an escort with a heart of gold. She's nice to Tank and even stands up for him to his friends. Later, she buys him some really nice gaming merchandise which, to judge Weird Pete's reaction, offset a good chunk of what Tank paid for her services.
* UglyGuyHotWife: Sort of. There wasvery, very reluctant to reveal his hobby to Reese - to the point a lot of hiring [[HookerWithAHeartOfGold Trish]] to impersonate her head-scratching in Muncie when the group insisted on being allowed to meet 'Reese'.
* HotBlooded: To a lesser extent than Bob but still present.
* SatelliteCharacter: He's less flawed,Trish started showing up in public with Tank and therefore less amusing: he doesn't get much screen time of his own.
!!Eddie "Tank" Rodriguez
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!!Squirrely (aka Squire Lee)
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Pretty much A chimp [[AllThereInTheManual formerly used as a military research subject,]] who wound up being adopted by Weird Pete. He seems to have a solid grasp of spoken English, the embodiment of ability to read and operate a cash register (although he's never mastered the modern gamer geek stereotype, Tank is a large, obese, hairy, timid, thoughtful man who is awkward around women (even by KODT standards.) art of making change), and has even sat in on games. He's gentle to the point of being an emotional doormat for the rest of the group. For a long time, the only other character he was known to associate chain-smoker with outside a wide mean streak. Several characters have suffered AmusingInjuries as a result of the Perps was Trish, from the Ladies of Hack. This was expanded slightly by the Java Joint spinoff strip, which showed him in a book club with Patty and Sara.crossing him.
* HookerWithAHeartOfGold: Technically an escort with a heart of gold. She's nice to Tank and even stands up for him to his friends. Later, she buys him some really nice gaming merchandise which, to judge Weird Pete's reaction, offset a good chunk of what Tank paid for her services.
* UglyGuyHotWife: Sort of. There was
* HotBlooded: To a lesser extent than Bob but still present.
* SatelliteCharacter: He's less flawed,
!!Eddie "Tank" Rodriguez
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!!Squirrely (aka Squire Lee)
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* AscendedExtra: One of the stars of the Java Joint strips with Sarah and Patty.
* GentleGiant: He's a larger character but one of the least violent gamers in Muncie.
* PlatonicProstitution: He hired Trish to game with him. She enjoyed it enough to join the Ladies of Hack and came to like Tank enough to give him gifts that probably offset most of what she was paid.
!!Leslie "Crutch" Humphries
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An ex-con gone straight. Crutch met the Black Hands when they decided to game at Hawg Wallers. Crutch and others around thought the Hands were planning a bank heist (in fact, they were playing a Western RPG and were plotting to rob a bank in-game). After spending a few nights in jail with the Black Hands over this misunderstanding, Crutch fell in love with gaming and began seeking gaming groups. Unfortunately, his enthusiasm for Hack and Slash extended to killing other player's characters at the table so he couldn't find a group until BA directed him to Patty, who has made him her latest project. He has recently become a surprise hit [=GMing=] "Crime Nation," bringing realistic grittiness into his game thanks to his personal experience in crime.
* GentleGiant: He's a larger character but one of the least violent gamers in Muncie.
* PlatonicProstitution: He hired Trish to game with him. She enjoyed it enough to join the Ladies of Hack and came to like Tank enough to give him gifts that probably offset most of what she was paid.
!!Leslie "Crutch" Humphries
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An ex-con gone straight. Crutch met the Black Hands when they decided to game at Hawg Wallers. Crutch and others around thought the Hands were planning a bank heist (in fact, they were playing a Western RPG and were plotting to rob a bank in-game). After spending a few nights in jail with the Black Hands over this misunderstanding, Crutch fell in love with gaming and began seeking gaming groups. Unfortunately, his enthusiasm for Hack and Slash extended to killing other player's characters at the table so he couldn't find a group until BA directed him to Patty, who has made him her latest project. He has recently become a surprise hit [=GMing=] "Crime Nation," bringing realistic grittiness into his game thanks to his personal experience in crime.
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* AscendedExtra: One of BerserkButton: He has several, but they seem to change over time.
* HeroicComedicSociopath:
--> '''Pete:''' He stole Stevil's wallet and inhaler and crawled into thestars of the Java Joint strips heating duct.
--> '''Gordo:''' Stevil didn't crawl in after him, did he? I tried that once and he stole my glasses and gave me a reverse wedgie.
--> '''Pete:''' Nah, he's trying to flush him out withSarah the fire extinguisher.
* TheUnintelligible: Though able to understand English very well, Squirrely only speaks in ape noises.
** Lampshaded when Weird Pete - andPatty.
* GentleGiant: He'sto a larger character but one of lesser extent, Dave and Gordo - seem to get the least violent gamers in Muncie.
* PlatonicProstitution: He hired Trishgist of everything Squirrely attempts to game with him. She enjoyed it communicate. Gordo even manages to understand him well enough to join successfully play "I Spy" with him.
* NearlyNormalAnimal: Chimps are already pretty humanlike, but Squirrely takes it to theLadies of Hack and came to like Tank enough to give him gifts that probably offset most of what she was paid.
!!Leslie "Crutch" Humphries
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An ex-con gone straight. Crutch metnext level.
* UnusuallyUninterestingSight: A chimp tending theBlack Hands when they decided to cash register at your local game at Hawg Wallers. Crutch store? No big deal.
!!Croix andothers around thought the Hands were planning a bank heist (in fact, they were playing a Western RPG Hunter
Bob's Niece andwere plotting Nephew respectively. Bob occasionally tries to rob a bank in-game). After spending a few nights in jail with the Black Hands over this misunderstanding, Crutch fell in love with gaming run games for them and began seeking gaming groups. Unfortunately, his enthusiasm for Hack and Slash extended to killing other player's characters at the table so he couldn't find a group until BA directed him to Patty, who sometimes has made him her latest project. He to borrow Croix's laptop to play World of Hackcraft. Croix has recently become a surprise hit [=GMing=] "Crime Nation," bringing realistic grittiness into his game thanks to his personal experience in crime.an innocent crush on Dave.
* HeroicComedicSociopath:
--> '''Pete:''' He stole Stevil's wallet and inhaler and crawled into the
--> '''Gordo:''' Stevil didn't crawl in after him, did he? I tried that once and he stole my glasses and gave me a reverse wedgie.
--> '''Pete:''' Nah, he's trying to flush him out with
* TheUnintelligible: Though able to understand English very well, Squirrely only speaks in ape noises.
** Lampshaded when Weird Pete - and
* GentleGiant: He's
* PlatonicProstitution: He hired Trish
* NearlyNormalAnimal: Chimps are already pretty humanlike, but Squirrely takes it to the
!!Leslie "Crutch" Humphries
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An ex-con gone straight. Crutch met
* UnusuallyUninterestingSight: A chimp tending the
!!Croix and
Bob's Niece and
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* AllBikersAreHellsAngels: A hulking, brutish ex-con motorcyclist.
* BreakoutCharacter: He's become one of the most popular characters; he's the oddball who can't quite fit into an otherwise fairly well-adjusted group.
* ChronicBackstabbingDisorder: Has mostly recovered from this but even to this day he charges for the healing his cleric "Friar Swayze" doles out.
* EmbarrassingFirstName: Leslie.
* HeelFaceTurn: When introduced, he's an ex-con who still seems willing to engage in criminal behavior but he makes an earnest effort to go straight for his old lady and eventually becomes an honorable JerkWithAHeartOfGold.
** The turning point comes when [[ItMakesSenseInContext he winds up locked up in prison]] with the Black Hands and insists on playing the Western RPG Cattlepunk. These were his [[AlwaysChaoticEvil earliest days]] in the hobby, so the Black Hands spent most of their time rolling up new characters and trying to avoid being gunned down by Crutch for their starting money - [[AlwaysABiggerFish even Stevil.]]
* KillerGamemaster: He couldn't get accredited to run Hackmaster, but found his niche running an old gang-violence RPG called ''Crime Nation.'' The body count is so high that even ''Weird Pete'' thinks it's high. A lot of cast usually found at other tables have turned up at Crutch's ''Crime Nation'' game, apparently for love of the challenge.
!!Mo
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A middle aged widow/ex-housewife living off life insurance and inheritance, Mo met Patty volunteering at an after school program and was excited about trying out Hackmaster. At the table, she's very outspoken and blunt but nice, which makes it all the more surprising when she kicks your teeth in and steals your loot.
* BreakoutCharacter: He's become one of the most popular characters; he's the oddball who can't quite fit into an otherwise fairly well-adjusted group.
* ChronicBackstabbingDisorder: Has mostly recovered from this but even to this day he charges for the healing his cleric "Friar Swayze" doles out.
* EmbarrassingFirstName: Leslie.
* HeelFaceTurn: When introduced, he's an ex-con who still seems willing to engage in criminal behavior but he makes an earnest effort to go straight for his old lady and eventually becomes an honorable JerkWithAHeartOfGold.
** The turning point comes when [[ItMakesSenseInContext he winds up locked up in prison]] with the Black Hands and insists on playing the Western RPG Cattlepunk. These were his [[AlwaysChaoticEvil earliest days]] in the hobby, so the Black Hands spent most of their time rolling up new characters and trying to avoid being gunned down by Crutch for their starting money - [[AlwaysABiggerFish even Stevil.]]
* KillerGamemaster: He couldn't get accredited to run Hackmaster, but found his niche running an old gang-violence RPG called ''Crime Nation.'' The body count is so high that even ''Weird Pete'' thinks it's high. A lot of cast usually found at other tables have turned up at Crutch's ''Crime Nation'' game, apparently for love of the challenge.
!!Mo
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A middle aged widow/ex-housewife living off life insurance and inheritance, Mo met Patty volunteering at an after school program and was excited about trying out Hackmaster. At the table, she's very outspoken and blunt but nice, which makes it all the more surprising when she kicks your teeth in and steals your loot.
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* AllBikersAreHellsAngels: A hulking, brutish ex-con motorcyclist.
* BreakoutCharacter: He's become one of the most popular characters; he's the oddball who can't quite fit into an otherwise fairly well-adjusted group.
* ChronicBackstabbingDisorder: Has mostly recovered from this but even to this day he charges for the healing his cleric "Friar Swayze" doles out.
* EmbarrassingFirstName: Leslie.
* HeelFaceTurn: When introduced, he's an ex-con who still seems willing to engage in criminal behavior but hePrecociousCrush: Croix has a crush on Dave. She's probably ten. It makes an earnest effort to go straight for his old lady and eventually becomes an honorable JerkWithAHeartOfGold.
** The turning point comes when [[ItMakesSenseInContext he winds up locked up in prison]] with the Black Hands and insists on playing the Western RPG Cattlepunk. These were his [[AlwaysChaoticEvil earliest days]] in the hobby, so the Black Hands spent most of their time rolling up new characters and trying to avoid being gunned down by Crutch for their starting money - [[AlwaysABiggerFish even Stevil.]]
* KillerGamemaster: He couldn't get accredited to run Hackmaster, but found his niche running an old gang-violence RPG called ''Crime Nation.'' The body count is so high that even ''Weird Pete'' thinks it's high. A lot of cast usually found at other tables have turned up at Crutch's ''Crime Nation'' game, apparently for love of the challenge.
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!! Ty Ferfel
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Nitro's nephew. Amiddle aged widow/ex-housewife living off life insurance young gamer that hangs out on the periphery of the community and inheritance, Mo met Patty volunteering at an after school program and was excited about trying out Hackmaster. At is often involved in under the table, she's very outspoken and blunt but nice, which makes it all the more surprising when she kicks your teeth in and steals your loot.table dealings.
* BreakoutCharacter: He's become one of the most popular characters; he's the oddball who can't quite fit into an otherwise fairly well-adjusted group.
* ChronicBackstabbingDisorder: Has mostly recovered from this but even to this day he charges for the healing his cleric "Friar Swayze" doles out.
* EmbarrassingFirstName: Leslie.
* HeelFaceTurn: When introduced, he's an ex-con who still seems willing to engage in criminal behavior but he
** The turning point comes when [[ItMakesSenseInContext he winds up locked up in prison]] with the Black Hands and insists on playing the Western RPG Cattlepunk. These were his [[AlwaysChaoticEvil earliest days]] in the hobby, so the Black Hands spent most of their time rolling up new characters and trying to avoid being gunned down by Crutch for their starting money - [[AlwaysABiggerFish even Stevil.]]
* KillerGamemaster: He couldn't get accredited to run Hackmaster, but found his niche running an old gang-violence RPG called ''Crime Nation.'' The body count is so high that even ''Weird Pete'' thinks it's high. A lot of cast usually found at other tables have turned up at Crutch's ''Crime Nation'' game, apparently for love of the challenge.
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* TheMunchkin: Mo is the unique case in pretty much all of fiction of a middle aged female that fits this trope. Probably the only difference between her and the other munchkins is its all fun and games for her and she's not going to get overly upset if things don't go her way.
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[[folder:Ladies of Hack]]
An all-female gaming group that meets separately from the male-dominated Muncie gaming community (though nearly all of them have other groups they play with regularly and for tournament purposes). They're also part of a larger organization of the same name that lobbies Hard8 and the TabletopGame/HackMaster Players' Association to change the sexist depictions of women and some of the more chauvinistic rules (such as the Strength penalty for female characters.) The local group is run by Patty Gauzweiler. Although the LoH are only rarely shown actually gaming, their membership includes most of the strip's prominent female gamers, including Sara, Patty, and several others.
!! Sheila Horowitz
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First mentioned offscreen as the female gamer who beat up B.A. over an in-game dispute, Sheila didn't become an on-screen character for a long time. For a while she was nearly a nemesis of the Knights: then she rather unexpectedly started dating Bob - partly out of admiration for Bob's commitment to the game and partly because he needs mothering. Tends to play [[KnightInSourArmor Knight Errants]].
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[[folder:Ladies of Hack]]
An all-female gaming group that meets separately from the male-dominated Muncie gaming community (though nearly all of them have other groups they play with regularly and for tournament purposes). They're also part of a larger organization of the same name that lobbies Hard8 and the TabletopGame/HackMaster Players' Association to change the sexist depictions of women and some of the more chauvinistic rules (such as the Strength penalty for female characters.) The local group is run by Patty Gauzweiler. Although the LoH are only rarely shown actually gaming, their membership includes most of the strip's prominent female gamers, including Sara, Patty, and several others.
!! Sheila Horowitz
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First mentioned offscreen as the female gamer who beat up B.A. over an in-game dispute, Sheila didn't become an on-screen character for a long time. For a while she was nearly a nemesis of the Knights: then she rather unexpectedly started dating Bob - partly out of admiration for Bob's commitment to the game and partly because he needs mothering. Tends to play [[KnightInSourArmor Knight Errants]].
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* TheMunchkin: Mo is the unique case in pretty much all of fiction of a middle aged female that fits this trope. Probably the only difference between her and the other munchkins is its all fun and games for her and she's not going to get overly upset if things don't go her way.
[[/folder]]
[[folder:Ladies of Hack]]
An all-female gaming group that meets separately from the male-dominated Muncie gaming community (though nearly all of them have other groups they play with regularly and for tournament purposes). They're also part of a larger organization of the same name that lobbies Hard8 and the TabletopGame/HackMaster Players' Association to change the sexist depictions of women and some of the more chauvinistic rules (such as the Strength penalty for female characters.) The local group is run by Patty Gauzweiler. Although the LoH are only rarely shownConsummateProfessional: He actually gaming, their membership includes most of is this regards to gaming and is so to the strip's prominent female gamers, including Sara, Patty, and several others.
point of being paid as a temp.
!!Sheila Horowitz
Earl Slackmozer
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First mentioned offscreen as the female gamer A rival gamemaster who beat up gets a lot of buzz when he first comes to town, having had a module published by Hard 8 (something B.A. over an in-game dispute, Sheila didn't has long tried and failed). At first seems to be the superstar but eventually loses his shine and after being humbled, he and B.A. become an on-screen character for a long time. For a while she was nearly a nemesis of the Knights: then she rather unexpectedly started dating Bob - partly out of admiration for Bob's commitment to the game and partly because he needs mothering. Tends to play [[KnightInSourArmor Knight Errants]].friends. Earl currently works at Weird Pete's shop.
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[[folder:Ladies of Hack]]
An all-female gaming group that meets separately from the male-dominated Muncie gaming community (though nearly all of them have other groups they play with regularly and for tournament purposes). They're also part of a larger organization of the same name that lobbies Hard8 and the TabletopGame/HackMaster Players' Association to change the sexist depictions of women and some of the more chauvinistic rules (such as the Strength penalty for female characters.) The local group is run by Patty Gauzweiler. Although the LoH are only rarely shown
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* AwwLookTheyReallyDoLoveEachOther: With Bob. As hard as she is on him, and as much as she talks down on/to him, she really ''does'' love him.
* BerserkButton: Brian in general hacks her off, but he really pushes her button when he ropes Bob into his schemes or takes advantage of him. And Brian put a brick on her button when he sent Bob to Hard 8 by mail and the box got ''lost in transit'', and then not even a few weeks later cons Bob into giving him Bob and Sheila's ''rent money'' to finance another scheme. It's only a small exaggeration to say Brian's lucky Sheila didn't kill him.
* DeadpanSnarker: She's got a biting comment for every occasion.
* TheDreaded: Where Brian is dreaded by gamemasters all over Muncie, Sheila is dreaded by pretty much everybody. She's got a nasty streak a mile wide, has a fondness for {{Disproportionate Retribution}}s and doesn't care overly much who gets caught in the crossfire.
* FourEyesZeroSoul: Played straight most of the time; Sheila is ''not'' a nice person and can in fact be decidedly ''awful'' to people around her -- but it gets subverted when she starts dating Bob and her gentler side comes forward a little more.
* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: When she finally meets Bob's father and realizes how abusive Bob Sr. is to his son, Sheila finally gets a look at what her treatment of Bob looks like from the outside, and it doesn't make her happy.
* TheRealMan: Gender-flipped. Possibly the only thing she and Bob have in common: they're there to kill things.
* SitcomArchEnemy: Has been this to B.A. and to Sara, but nowadays she regards her feud with Brian as SeriousBusiness.
* {{Tsundere}} Used to game with the Knights until B.A. accused her of cheating and they got in a fist fight. Sheila was the big reason the Knights were leery about letting Sara join the group.
!! Bridget Keating
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First introduced when the Knights players one by one get caught up in a Vampire LARP. Bridget was a clan leader and tended to use her *ahem* assets and her willingness to Cosplay along with her clan authority to get the guys to do whatever she wanted. Though she's calmed down she's still almost always seen in some kind of sexy cosplay outfit.
* BerserkButton: Brian in general hacks her off, but he really pushes her button when he ropes Bob into his schemes or takes advantage of him. And Brian put a brick on her button when he sent Bob to Hard 8 by mail and the box got ''lost in transit'', and then not even a few weeks later cons Bob into giving him Bob and Sheila's ''rent money'' to finance another scheme. It's only a small exaggeration to say Brian's lucky Sheila didn't kill him.
* DeadpanSnarker: She's got a biting comment for every occasion.
* TheDreaded: Where Brian is dreaded by gamemasters all over Muncie, Sheila is dreaded by pretty much everybody. She's got a nasty streak a mile wide, has a fondness for {{Disproportionate Retribution}}s and doesn't care overly much who gets caught in the crossfire.
* FourEyesZeroSoul: Played straight most of the time; Sheila is ''not'' a nice person and can in fact be decidedly ''awful'' to people around her -- but it gets subverted when she starts dating Bob and her gentler side comes forward a little more.
* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: When she finally meets Bob's father and realizes how abusive Bob Sr. is to his son, Sheila finally gets a look at what her treatment of Bob looks like from the outside, and it doesn't make her happy.
* TheRealMan: Gender-flipped. Possibly the only thing she and Bob have in common: they're there to kill things.
* SitcomArchEnemy: Has been this to B.A. and to Sara, but nowadays she regards her feud with Brian as SeriousBusiness.
* {{Tsundere}} Used to game with the Knights until B.A. accused her of cheating and they got in a fist fight. Sheila was the big reason the Knights were leery about letting Sara join the group.
!! Bridget Keating
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First introduced when the Knights players one by one get caught up in a Vampire LARP. Bridget was a clan leader and tended to use her *ahem* assets and her willingness to Cosplay along with her clan authority to get the guys to do whatever she wanted. Though she's calmed down she's still almost always seen in some kind of sexy cosplay outfit.
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*
* BerserkButton: Brian
* DeadpanSnarker: She's got a biting comment for every occasion.
* TheDreaded: Where Brian is dreaded by gamemasters all over Muncie, Sheila is dreaded by pretty much everybody. She's got a nasty streak a mile wide, has a fondness for {{Disproportionate Retribution}}s and doesn't care overly much who gets caught in the crossfire.
* FourEyesZeroSoul: Played straight most of the time; Sheila is ''not'' a nice person and can in fact be decidedly ''awful'' to people around her -- but it gets subverted when she starts dating Bob and her gentler side comes forward a little more.
* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: When she finally meets Bob's father and realizes how abusive Bob Sr. is to his son, Sheila finally gets a look at what her treatment of Bob looks like from the outside, and it doesn't make her happy.
* TheRealMan: Gender-flipped. Possibly the only thing she and Bob have in common: they're there to kill things.
* SitcomArchEnemy: Has been this to
* OutOfFocus: He still has a gaming group in Muncie, but he hasn't featured in any stories to speak of for a while.
* TheRival: BA and he used to
* {{Tsundere}} Used to game with
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* ArtShift: Most strongly in early appearances. She's still drawn a lot less googly-eyed and scribble-fingered than the rest of the cast.
* IHaveBoobsYouMustObey: Most of the time, though hilariously subverted when she tried to charm her way past a KnightTemplar guarding the door at Gary Con.
* TheVamp: Happily uses her cosplay outfits and sex appeal to control others.
!!Trish
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* IHaveBoobsYouMustObey: Most of the time, though hilariously subverted when she tried to charm her way past a KnightTemplar guarding the door at Gary Con.
* TheVamp: Happily uses her cosplay outfits and sex appeal to control others.
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* ArtShift: Most strongly in early appearances. She's still drawn a lot less googly-eyed and scribble-fingered than BornLucky: Until the rest of the cast.
* IHaveBoobsYouMustObey: Most of the time, though hilariously subvertedNoodleIncident when she tried to charm her way past a KnightTemplar guarding the door at Gary Con.his dice turned on him.
*TheVamp: Happily uses her cosplay outfits CasanovaWannabe: And he's married.
* FallenHero: This was the attitude B.A, Bob, Dave andsex appeal Brian all had toward him before his return to control others.
!!Trish
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!! Switch
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* IHaveBoobsYouMustObey: Most of the time, though hilariously subverted
*
* FallenHero: This was the attitude B.A, Bob, Dave and
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!! Switch
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* HighClassCallGirl: Works with a service and in good conditions.
* HookerWithAHeartOfGold: Technically an escort with a heart of gold. She's nice to Tank and even stands up for him to his friends. Later, she buys him some really nice gaming merchandise which, to judge Weird Pete's reaction, offset a good chunk of what Tank paid for her services.
* UglyGuyHotWife: Sort of. There was a lot of head-scratching in Muncie when Trish started showing up in public with Tank and appeared to be dating him.
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!!Squirrely (aka Squire Lee)
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A chimp [[AllThereInTheManual formerly used as a military research subject,]] who wound up being adopted by Weird Pete. He seems to have a solid grasp of spoken English, the ability to read and operate a cash register (although he's never mastered the art of making change), and has even sat in on games. He's a chain-smoker with a wide mean streak. Several characters have suffered AmusingInjuries as a result of crossing him.
* HookerWithAHeartOfGold: Technically an escort with a heart of gold. She's nice to Tank and even stands up for him to his friends. Later, she buys him some really nice gaming merchandise which, to judge Weird Pete's reaction, offset a good chunk of what Tank paid for her services.
* UglyGuyHotWife: Sort of. There was a lot of head-scratching in Muncie when Trish started showing up in public with Tank and appeared to be dating him.
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!!Squirrely (aka Squire Lee)
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A chimp [[AllThereInTheManual formerly used as a military research subject,]] who wound up being adopted by Weird Pete. He seems to have a solid grasp of spoken English, the ability to read and operate a cash register (although he's never mastered the art of making change), and has even sat in on games. He's a chain-smoker with a wide mean streak. Several characters have suffered AmusingInjuries as a result of crossing him.
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* HighClassCallGirl: Works with AndYouThoughtItWasAGame: After Bob stumbles on Switch planning a service heist and in good conditions.
* HookerWithAHeartOfGold: Technically an escort with a heart of gold. She's nice to Tank and even stands upmistakes it for him to his friends. Later, she buys him some really nice a gaming merchandise which, to judge session, Switch plays along and picks his brain for useful tips.
* AndYouThoughtItWasReal: When Switch stumbles on Tank giving Crutch pointers on gamemastering and overhears casual comments about slitting throats and attacking people with flaming oil, he backs away and gets a drink, thinking that Crutch has fallen in with some stone-cold psycho.
* TheStoolPigeon: After getting caught at the scene of a heist, he gives up WeirdPete's reaction, offset Pete (who had filled in for Bob as "game session consultant") to save his own neck. The only reason he doesn't give up Bob is that Bob was too useful to lose.
* TooCleverByHalf: Bob's gaming experience and commitment to roleplaying thieves certainly gives him a goodchunk of what Tank paid mindset for her services.
* UglyGuyHotWife: Sort of. Thereplanning heists but Switch was a lot of head-scratching in Muncie when Trish started showing up in public with Tank and appeared pushing his luck continuing to rely on Bob. Switch must [[GenreSavvy not be dating him.
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[[folder:Others]]
!!Squirrely (aka Squire Lee)
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!! Cody Winkle
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A chimp [[AllThereInTheManual formerly used as Seen at a military research subject,]] who wound up being adopted by Weird Pete. He seems to have a solid grasp number of spoken English, the ability to read and operate a cash register (although he's game tables but has never mastered the art of making change), and has fit in with a group... not even sat in on games. the Black Hands. He's a chain-smoker with a wide mean streak. Several characters have suffered AmusingInjuries as a result of crossing him.local actor who likes to use his acting skills at the table and is known for his commitment to story and characterization over game play.
* HookerWithAHeartOfGold: Technically an escort with a heart of gold. She's nice to Tank and even stands up
* AndYouThoughtItWasReal: When Switch stumbles on Tank giving Crutch pointers on gamemastering and overhears casual comments about slitting throats and attacking people with flaming oil, he backs away and gets a drink, thinking that Crutch has fallen in with some stone-cold psycho.
* TheStoolPigeon: After getting caught at the scene of a heist, he gives up Weird
* TooCleverByHalf: Bob's gaming experience and commitment to roleplaying thieves certainly gives him a good
* UglyGuyHotWife: Sort of. There
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!!Squirrely (aka Squire Lee)
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!! Cody Winkle
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* BerserkButton: He has several, but they seem to change over time.
* HeroicComedicSociopath:
--> '''Pete:''' He stole Stevil's wallet and inhaler and crawled into the heating duct.
--> '''Gordo:''' Stevil didn't crawl in after him, did he? I tried that once and he stole my glasses and gave me a reverse wedgie.
--> '''Pete:''' Nah, he's trying to flush him out with the fire extinguisher.
* TheUnintelligible: Though able to understand English very well, Squirrely only speaks in ape noises.
** Lampshaded when Weird Pete - and to a lesser extent, Dave and Gordo - seem to get the gist of everything Squirrely attempts to communicate. Gordo even manages to understand him well enough to successfully play "I Spy" with him.
* NearlyNormalAnimal: Chimps are already pretty humanlike, but Squirrely takes it to the next level.
* UnusuallyUninterestingSight: A chimp tending the cash register at your local game store? No big deal.
!!Croix and Hunter
Bob's Niece and Nephew respectively. Bob occasionally tries to run games for them and sometimes has to borrow Croix's laptop to play World of Hackcraft. Croix has an innocent crush on Dave.
* HeroicComedicSociopath:
--> '''Pete:''' He stole Stevil's wallet and inhaler and crawled into the heating duct.
--> '''Gordo:''' Stevil didn't crawl in after him, did he? I tried that once and he stole my glasses and gave me a reverse wedgie.
--> '''Pete:''' Nah, he's trying to flush him out with the fire extinguisher.
* TheUnintelligible: Though able to understand English very well, Squirrely only speaks in ape noises.
** Lampshaded when Weird Pete - and to a lesser extent, Dave and Gordo - seem to get the gist of everything Squirrely attempts to communicate. Gordo even manages to understand him well enough to successfully play "I Spy" with him.
* NearlyNormalAnimal: Chimps are already pretty humanlike, but Squirrely takes it to the next level.
* UnusuallyUninterestingSight: A chimp tending the cash register at your local game store? No big deal.
!!Croix and Hunter
Bob's Niece and Nephew respectively. Bob occasionally tries to run games for them and sometimes has to borrow Croix's laptop to play World of Hackcraft. Croix has an innocent crush on Dave.
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* BerserkButton: He has several, but they seem TheRoleplayer: Carried to change over time.
* HeroicComedicSociopath:
--> '''Pete:''' He stole Stevil's wallet and inhaler and crawled into the heating duct.
--> '''Gordo:''' Stevil didn't crawl in after him, did he? I triedan extreme that once and he stole my glasses and gave me a reverse wedgie.
--> '''Pete:''' Nah, he's trying to flushmakes him out with intolerable!
* TalkingToThemself: Not in thefire extinguisher.
* TheUnintelligible: Though able to understand English very well, Squirrely only speaks in ape noises.
** Lampshaded when Weird Pete - and tousual way. His elf bard, Raphael Hoolizar, inherited a lesser extent, Dave and Gordo - seem to get the gist of everything Squirrely attempts to communicate. Gordo even manages to understand him well enough to successfully play "I Spy" with him.
* NearlyNormalAnimal: Chimps are already pretty humanlike, but Squirrely takes it to the next level.
* UnusuallyUninterestingSight: A chimp tending the cash register at your local game store? No big deal.
!!Croix and Hunter
brownie familiar (and hand puppet) named Hodgy from Brian.
!! Bob Herzog, Senior
Bob'sNiece and Nephew respectively. Bob father, occasionally tries referenced offscreen as an obstacle to run games for them and sometimes has to borrow Croix's laptop to play World of Hackcraft. Croix has an innocent crush on Dave.Bob's gaming before finally appearing in the comic.
* HeroicComedicSociopath:
--> '''Pete:''' He stole Stevil's wallet and inhaler and crawled into the heating duct.
--> '''Gordo:''' Stevil didn't crawl in after him, did he? I tried
--> '''Pete:''' Nah, he's trying to flush
* TalkingToThemself: Not in the
* TheUnintelligible: Though able to understand English very well, Squirrely only speaks in ape noises.
** Lampshaded when Weird Pete - and to
* NearlyNormalAnimal: Chimps are already pretty humanlike, but Squirrely takes it to the next level.
* UnusuallyUninterestingSight: A chimp tending the cash register at your local game store? No big deal.
!!Croix and Hunter
!! Bob Herzog, Senior
Bob's
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* PrecociousCrush: Croix has a crush on Dave. She's probably ten. It makes him a little uncomfortable.
!! Ty Ferfel
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Nitro's nephew. A young gamer that hangs out on the periphery of the community and is often involved in under the table dealings.
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* ConsummateProfessional: He actually is this regards to gaming and is so to the point of being paid as a temp.
!! Earl Slackmozer
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A rival gamemaster who gets a lot of buzz when he first comes to town, having had a module published by Hard 8 (something B.A. has long tried and failed). At first seems to be the superstar but eventually loses his shine and after being humbled, he and B.A. become friends. Earl currently works at Weird Pete's shop.
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* TheAce: At first, in relation to B.A.. Earl is a Gamemaster in high demand and the Knights threaten to leave B.A. for him.
* OutOfFocus: He still has a gaming group in Muncie, but he hasn't featured in any stories to speak of for a while.
* TheRival: BA and he used to be this but BA won the allegiance of the gaming community handsomely.
!! Johnny Kizinski
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A Knight of the Dinner Table who left before the strips began, and has turned up a couple of times to sit in on a few games. The Knights are fond of saying "the man could play" but one day his luck ran out and he left the gaming scene. He moved away, got married, has children and runs a Big Juices. A shameless flirt and an opportunist, his overall mentality highlights how the Knights acted before Sara joined.
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* BornLucky: Until the NoodleIncident when his dice turned on him.
* CasanovaWannabe: And he's married.
* FallenHero: This was the attitude B.A, Bob, Dave and Brian all had toward him before his return to gaming.
!! Switch
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Martin "Switch" Wucjik is Crutch's "friend" and former partner in crime before Crutch went straight. Switch is still a criminal and shown to be disloyal, self serving, and a jerk. He'll commit a crime then sell out his friends for reduced sentences. He's the one who gets Bob to help him plan his heists [[AndYouThoughtItWasAGame letting Bob believe it was for a roleplaying game]].
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* AndYouThoughtItWasAGame: After Bob stumbles on Switch planning a heist and mistakes it for a gaming session, Switch plays along and picks his brain for useful tips.
* AndYouThoughtItWasReal: When Switch stumbles on Tank giving Crutch pointers on gamemastering and overhears casual comments about slitting throats and attacking people with flaming oil, he backs away and gets a drink, thinking that Crutch has fallen in with some stone-cold psycho.
* TheStoolPigeon: After getting caught at the scene of a heist, he gives up Weird Pete (who had filled in for Bob as "game session consultant") to save his own neck. The only reason he doesn't give up Bob is that Bob was too useful to lose.
* TooCleverByHalf: Bob's gaming experience and commitment to roleplaying thieves certainly gives him a good mindset for planning heists but Switch was pushing his luck continuing to rely on Bob. Switch must [[GenreSavvy not be savvy about games]] the way Bob is.
!! Cody Winkle
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Seen at a number of game tables but has never fit in with a group... not even the Black Hands. He's a local actor who likes to use his acting skills at the table and is known for his commitment to story and characterization over game play.
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* TheRoleplayer: Carried to an extreme that makes him intolerable!
* TalkingToThemself: Not in the usual way. His elf bard, Raphael Hoolizar, inherited a brownie familiar (and hand puppet) named Hodgy from Brian.
!! Bob Herzog, Senior
Bob's father, occasionally referenced offscreen as an obstacle to Bob's gaming before finally appearing in the comic.
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!! Ty Ferfel
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Nitro's nephew. A young gamer that hangs out on the periphery of the community and is often involved in under the table dealings.
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* ConsummateProfessional: He actually is this regards to gaming and is so to the point of being paid as a temp.
!! Earl Slackmozer
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A rival gamemaster who gets a lot of buzz when he first comes to town, having had a module published by Hard 8 (something B.A. has long tried and failed). At first seems to be the superstar but eventually loses his shine and after being humbled, he and B.A. become friends. Earl currently works at Weird Pete's shop.
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* TheAce: At first, in relation to B.A.. Earl is a Gamemaster in high demand and the Knights threaten to leave B.A. for him.
* OutOfFocus: He still has a gaming group in Muncie, but he hasn't featured in any stories to speak of for a while.
* TheRival: BA and he used to be this but BA won the allegiance of the gaming community handsomely.
!! Johnny Kizinski
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A Knight of the Dinner Table who left before the strips began, and has turned up a couple of times to sit in on a few games. The Knights are fond of saying "the man could play" but one day his luck ran out and he left the gaming scene. He moved away, got married, has children and runs a Big Juices. A shameless flirt and an opportunist, his overall mentality highlights how the Knights acted before Sara joined.
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* BornLucky: Until the NoodleIncident when his dice turned on him.
* CasanovaWannabe: And he's married.
* FallenHero: This was the attitude B.A, Bob, Dave and Brian all had toward him before his return to gaming.
!! Switch
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Martin "Switch" Wucjik is Crutch's "friend" and former partner in crime before Crutch went straight. Switch is still a criminal and shown to be disloyal, self serving, and a jerk. He'll commit a crime then sell out his friends for reduced sentences. He's the one who gets Bob to help him plan his heists [[AndYouThoughtItWasAGame letting Bob believe it was for a roleplaying game]].
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* AndYouThoughtItWasAGame: After Bob stumbles on Switch planning a heist and mistakes it for a gaming session, Switch plays along and picks his brain for useful tips.
* AndYouThoughtItWasReal: When Switch stumbles on Tank giving Crutch pointers on gamemastering and overhears casual comments about slitting throats and attacking people with flaming oil, he backs away and gets a drink, thinking that Crutch has fallen in with some stone-cold psycho.
* TheStoolPigeon: After getting caught at the scene of a heist, he gives up Weird Pete (who had filled in for Bob as "game session consultant") to save his own neck. The only reason he doesn't give up Bob is that Bob was too useful to lose.
* TooCleverByHalf: Bob's gaming experience and commitment to roleplaying thieves certainly gives him a good mindset for planning heists but Switch was pushing his luck continuing to rely on Bob. Switch must [[GenreSavvy not be savvy about games]] the way Bob is.
!! Cody Winkle
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Seen at a number of game tables but has never fit in with a group... not even the Black Hands. He's a local actor who likes to use his acting skills at the table and is known for his commitment to story and characterization over game play.
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* TheRoleplayer: Carried to an extreme that makes him intolerable!
* TalkingToThemself: Not in the usual way. His elf bard, Raphael Hoolizar, inherited a brownie familiar (and hand puppet) named Hodgy from Brian.
!! Bob Herzog, Senior
Bob's father, occasionally referenced offscreen as an obstacle to Bob's gaming before finally appearing in the comic.
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[[folder:Hard 8]]
The makers of most of the games played in the Muncie community, most notably Hackmaster. Hard 8 is loosely based on Creator/{{TSR}}, and when Hackmaster was first published in real life, all but the first foreword was written as though the Hard 8 characters were the ones writing it. Though regularly featured, the interactions between this set of characters and the Knights are infrequent and almost always indirect.
The makers of most of the games played in the Muncie community, most notably Hackmaster. Hard 8 is loosely based on Creator/{{TSR}}, and when Hackmaster was first published in real life, all but the first foreword was written as though the Hard 8 characters were the ones writing it. Though regularly featured, the interactions between this set of characters and the Knights are infrequent and almost always indirect.
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* AuthorAppeal: Not so much in the early days, when the comic strip was appearing in the backs of other publishers' magazines, but in the years since ''Knights of the Dinner Table'' and [=KenzerCo=] became associated, strips about the pitfalls of ''making'' games have replaced Hard 8's earlier function of introducing inexplicably bad products and gouging gamers for paid-by-the-minute phone support.
* {{Expy}}: Hard 8 itself is an expy of [=TSR=], but the games they produce are also typically expies of real life products Hackmaster (''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons''), World of Hackcraft (''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft''), and Spelljacked (The similarly ill-fated ''TabletopGame/{{Spellfire}}'' CCG) being some of the most common.
* HonestJohnsDealership: As noted above, many of the early Hard 8 storylines showed them cranking out questionable products and using every trick in the book to squeeze money out of gamers and game store owners.
!!Gary Jackson
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The analog for Gary Gygax (with the surname of Steve Jackson). Show to be a gambler with a fly by the seat of his pants approach to running his company and publishing new game products. After his apparent death in a plane crash, he became a sort of larger than life legend, made still larger recently when it was revealed he's not dead. Currently he's using another company to buy out products being held and (he feels) ruined by his wife who has been running the company in trust for his son.
* {{Expy}}: Hard 8 itself is an expy of [=TSR=], but the games they produce are also typically expies of real life products Hackmaster (''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons''), World of Hackcraft (''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft''), and Spelljacked (The similarly ill-fated ''TabletopGame/{{Spellfire}}'' CCG) being some of the most common.
* HonestJohnsDealership: As noted above, many of the early Hard 8 storylines showed them cranking out questionable products and using every trick in the book to squeeze money out of gamers and game store owners.
!!Gary Jackson
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The analog for Gary Gygax (with the surname of Steve Jackson). Show to be a gambler with a fly by the seat of his pants approach to running his company and publishing new game products. After his apparent death in a plane crash, he became a sort of larger than life legend, made still larger recently when it was revealed he's not dead. Currently he's using another company to buy out products being held and (he feels) ruined by his wife who has been running the company in trust for his son.
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* AuthorAppeal: Not so much in GoodCounterpart: Unlike the early days, when Black Hands who are worse than the comic strip was appearing in Knights, the backs of other publishers' magazines, but in the years since ''Knights of the Dinner Table'' Patty's Perps are optimistic and [=KenzerCo=] became associated, strips about the pitfalls of ''making'' games loving.
* RagtagBunchOfMisfits: They havereplaced Hard 8's earlier function of introducing inexplicably bad products and gouging gamers for paid-by-the-minute phone support.
* {{Expy}}: Hard 8 itself is an expy of [=TSR=],nothing in common but the games they produce are also typically expies of real life products Hackmaster (''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons''), World of Hackcraft (''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft''), and Spelljacked (The similarly ill-fated ''TabletopGame/{{Spellfire}}'' CCG) being some of the most common.
* HonestJohnsDealership: As noted above, many of the early Hard 8 storylines showed them cranking out questionable products and using every trick in the book to squeeze money out of gamers and game store owners.
!!Gary Jackson
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!!Patty Gauzweiler
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Theanalog Gamemaster. Patty is a school teacher who hosts games in her trailer and tends to take in lost souls or anyone who looks like they need some mothering. This, perhaps, explains why she was shown in her earliest appearances relentlessly pursuing [[ManChild Dave]] to resume the relationship they once had. Patty is also the Gamemaster for Gary Gygax (with the surname local but seldom shown Ladies of Steve Jackson). Show to be Hack group consisting of most of the regular female characters. Though she has a gambler basically good heart, Patty is also a master of the evil situation, once manipulating her group's entire party into jumping into a lava pit just so she could win a bet with a fly by the seat of his pants approach to running his company and publishing new game products. After his apparent death other Gamemasters in a plane crash, he became a sort of larger than life legend, made still larger recently when it was revealed he's not dead. Currently he's using another company to buy out products being held and (he feels) ruined by his wife who has been running the company in trust for his son.town.
* RagtagBunchOfMisfits: They have
* {{Expy}}: Hard 8 itself is an expy of [=TSR=],
* HonestJohnsDealership: As noted above, many of the early Hard 8 storylines showed them cranking out questionable products and using every trick in the book to squeeze money out of gamers and game store owners.
!!Gary Jackson
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!!Patty Gauzweiler
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* TheAce: Filled this role during the time he spent apparently dead as the Hard 8 staff would often fondly recall Gary's fly by the seat of his pants style of management.
* DeathFakedForYou: The solution to his KilledOffForReal plot.
* HonestJohnsDealership: Much of his attempts to market games are based on squeezing every last dime from the public despite his honest love of gaming.
* JerkWithAHeartOfJerk: Thinks of himself as a brilliant businessman; extremely self-confident; prone to giving his employees "bonuses" by unloading items he can't sell on them and calling them "bonuses".
* NoCelebritiesWereHarmed: What many people assumed he was. Jolly actually says he was based on the weird idea he had as a teenager that game designers were rich rockstar executives.
* KilledOffForReal: Jolly Blackburn became wary of people assuming Gary was meant to be a parody of RL individuals and did this. He eventually came to regret it.
* PetTheDog: While undeniably a {{Jerkass}}, he does have moments where he'll display a decent streak. Sure, he's probably working some kind of angle, and quite often he's scheming to catch people off-guard so he can screw them over, but he ''does'' have his moments.
!![=JoJo=] Zeke
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Second in command who became the man to run the show on site after Jackson's death. Zeke, like Jackson cares passionately about Hackmaster and the work he puts into it. After Gary's death, he was shown being worn to the core by the demands of Heidi Jackson until he finally quit.
* DeathFakedForYou: The solution to his KilledOffForReal plot.
* HonestJohnsDealership: Much of his attempts to market games are based on squeezing every last dime from the public despite his honest love of gaming.
* JerkWithAHeartOfJerk: Thinks of himself as a brilliant businessman; extremely self-confident; prone to giving his employees "bonuses" by unloading items he can't sell on them and calling them "bonuses".
* NoCelebritiesWereHarmed: What many people assumed he was. Jolly actually says he was based on the weird idea he had as a teenager that game designers were rich rockstar executives.
* KilledOffForReal: Jolly Blackburn became wary of people assuming Gary was meant to be a parody of RL individuals and did this. He eventually came to regret it.
* PetTheDog: While undeniably a {{Jerkass}}, he does have moments where he'll display a decent streak. Sure, he's probably working some kind of angle, and quite often he's scheming to catch people off-guard so he can screw them over, but he ''does'' have his moments.
!![=JoJo=] Zeke
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Second in command who became the man to run the show on site after Jackson's death. Zeke, like Jackson cares passionately about Hackmaster and the work he puts into it. After Gary's death, he was shown being worn to the core by the demands of Heidi Jackson until he finally quit.
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* TheAce: Filled this role during EightiesHair: Has a particularly lush and large do.
* FriendToAllChildren: She seems to adore and be adored by all of Muncie’s kids.
* HeroesWantRedheads: BA certainly does.
* InformedAttractiveness: She's supposed to be quite attractive, but drawing attractive women isn't really Jolly's strong point. Her appearance is kind of an artifact; later 'pretty girl' characters are drawn more attractively, but changing Patty's model might make thetime he spent apparently dead as the Hard 8 staff would often fondly recall Gary's fly by the seat of his pants style of management.
character unrecognizable.
*DeathFakedForYou: The solution to his KilledOffForReal plot.
* HonestJohnsDealership: Much of his attempts to market games are based on squeezing every last dime from the public despite his honest love of gaming.
* JerkWithAHeartOfJerk: Thinks of himself as a brilliant businessman; extremely self-confident; prone to giving his employees "bonuses" by unloading items he can't sell on them and calling them "bonuses".
* NoCelebritiesWereHarmed: What many people assumed he was. JollyMisplacedKindergartenTeacher: Patty actually says he was based on ''is'' a kindergarten teacher. However, she has difficulties turning the weird idea he had as a teenager that game designers were rich rockstar executives.
* KilledOffForReal: Jolly Blackburn became wary of people assuming Gary was meant to be a parody of RL individualsattitude off and did this. He eventually came ends up treating her gaming group like a bunch of preschoolers, including a "Time Out Corner" with "5 points to regret it.
* PetTheDog: While undeniably a {{Jerkass}}, he does have moments where he'll display a decent streak. Sure, he's probably workingponder".
** Given the way somekind of angle, and quite often he's scheming to catch people off-guard so he can screw gamers act in this comic, treating them over, like preschoolers might be giving them too much credit.
* TeamMom: All up and down the line, she cares for her group very much buthe ''does'' have his moments.
!![=JoJo=] Zeke
also disciplines them like her students.
!!Chad Aguilar
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Second in command who becameorg/pmwiki/pub/images/chad_a.jpg]]
A long time member of theman group. Though Chad fits in socially as a college student, he started gaming in middle school where his munchkin tendencies kept him away from other gaming tables leading Patty to run take him in. Today, he's more the show on site after Jackson's death. Zeke, like Jackson cares passionately about Hackmaster and the work he puts into it. After Gary's death, he was shown being worn team spitfire, easily irritated but a bit more mature as a player. Recently, Chad has been bringing his pacifist fiancee Reese to the core table; she's more than a little disturbed by all the demands of Heidi Jackson until he finally quit.violence in these games.
* FriendToAllChildren: She seems to adore and be adored by all of Muncie’s kids.
* HeroesWantRedheads: BA certainly does.
* InformedAttractiveness: She's supposed to be quite attractive, but drawing attractive women isn't really Jolly's strong point. Her appearance is kind of an artifact; later 'pretty girl' characters are drawn more attractively, but changing Patty's model might make the
*
* HonestJohnsDealership: Much of his attempts to market games are based on squeezing every last dime from the public despite his honest love of gaming.
* JerkWithAHeartOfJerk: Thinks of himself as a brilliant businessman; extremely self-confident; prone to giving his employees "bonuses" by unloading items he can't sell on them and calling them "bonuses".
* NoCelebritiesWereHarmed: What many people assumed he was. Jolly
* KilledOffForReal: Jolly Blackburn became wary of people assuming Gary was meant to be a parody of RL individuals
* PetTheDog: While undeniably a {{Jerkass}}, he does have moments where he'll display a decent streak. Sure, he's probably working
** Given the way some
* TeamMom: All up and down the line, she cares for her group very much but
!![=JoJo=] Zeke
!!Chad Aguilar
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Second in command who became
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* TheDragon: Oddly, whether Gary or Heidi is in charge of the company, [=JoJo=] gravitates to the position of second-in-command.
* HeroOfAnotherStory: [=JoJo=] is the only Hard8 character who shows up regularly in Muncie to interact with the regular cast. This is because one of his many duties is putting an end to crises... and the gamers in Muncie tend to create crises. They're his biggest headache.
** Except possibly [[NoodleIncident the rogue gamer chapters out in Idaho.]]
!!"Waco" Bob Forsey
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The old man of the group. During Gary's tenure as head of the company, Bob got along largely by agreeing with everything Gary said. This may have been the reason he was the first to get fired when Heidi took over. Tuley quietly organized a campaign where the other employees took a pay cut to get him re-hired.
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* YesMan: As noted, all he ever did at Hard 8 staff meetings was agree with Gary Jackson's pronouncements. According to the [[WordOfGod cast list]], his playtest reports described every newly developed game as "the next TabletopGame/HackMaster".
!!Pete "Skip" Skipowski
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* HeroOfAnotherStory: [=JoJo=] is the only Hard8 character who shows up regularly in Muncie to interact with the regular cast. This is because one of his many duties is putting an end to crises... and the gamers in Muncie tend to create crises. They're his biggest headache.
** Except possibly [[NoodleIncident the rogue gamer chapters out in Idaho.]]
!!"Waco" Bob Forsey
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The old man of the group. During Gary's tenure as head of the company, Bob got along largely by agreeing with everything Gary said. This may have been the reason he was the first to get fired when Heidi took over. Tuley quietly organized a campaign where the other employees took a pay cut to get him re-hired.
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* YesMan: As noted, all he ever did at Hard 8 staff meetings was agree with Gary Jackson's pronouncements. According to the [[WordOfGod cast list]], his playtest reports described every newly developed game as "the next TabletopGame/HackMaster".
!!Pete "Skip" Skipowski
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* TheDragon: Oddly, whether Gary or Heidi is in charge ClosetGeek: Chad was very, very reluctant to reveal his hobby to Reese - to the point of hiring [[HookerWithAHeartOfGold Trish]] to impersonate her when the group insisted on being allowed to meet 'Reese'.
* HotBlooded: To a lesser extent than Bob but still present.
* SatelliteCharacter: He's less flawed, and therefore less amusing: he doesn't get much screen time of his own.
!!Eddie "Tank" Rodriguez
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Pretty much the embodiment of thecompany, [=JoJo=] gravitates modern gamer geek stereotype, Tank is a large, obese, hairy, timid, thoughtful man who is awkward around women (even by KODT standards.) He's gentle to the position point of second-in-command.
* HeroOfAnotherStory: [=JoJo=] isbeing an emotional doormat for the rest of the group. For a long time, the only Hard8 other character who shows up regularly in Muncie he was known to interact associate with outside of the regular cast. Perps was Trish, from the Ladies of Hack. This is because was expanded slightly by the Java Joint spinoff strip, which showed him in a book club with Patty and Sara.
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* AscendedExtra: One of the stars of the Java Joint strips with Sarah and Patty.
* GentleGiant: He's a larger character but one ofhis many duties is putting an end to crises... and the least violent gamers in Muncie tend Muncie.
* PlatonicProstitution: He hired Trish tocreate crises. They're his biggest headache.
** Except possibly [[NoodleIncidentgame with him. She enjoyed it enough to join the rogue gamer chapters out in Idaho.]]
!!"Waco" Bob Forsey
Ladies of Hack and came to like Tank enough to give him gifts that probably offset most of what she was paid.
!!Leslie "Crutch" Humphries
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The old man of the group. During Gary's tenure as head of the company, Bob got along largely by agreeing with everything Gary said. This may have been the reason he was the first to get fired when Heidi took over. Tuley quietly organized a campaign where the other employees took a pay cut to get him re-hired.
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* YesMan: As noted, all he ever did at Hard 8 staff meetings was agree with Gary Jackson's pronouncements. According to the [[WordOfGod cast list]], his playtest reports described every newly developed game as "the next TabletopGame/HackMaster".
!!Pete "Skip" Skipowski
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* HotBlooded: To a lesser extent than Bob but still present.
* SatelliteCharacter: He's less flawed, and therefore less amusing: he doesn't get much screen time of his own.
!!Eddie "Tank" Rodriguez
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Pretty much the embodiment of the
* HeroOfAnotherStory: [=JoJo=] is
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* AscendedExtra: One of the stars of the Java Joint strips with Sarah and Patty.
* GentleGiant: He's a larger character but one of
* PlatonicProstitution: He hired Trish to
** Except possibly [[NoodleIncident
!!"Waco" Bob Forsey
!!Leslie "Crutch" Humphries
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The old man of the group. During Gary's tenure as head of the company, Bob got along largely by agreeing with everything Gary said. This may have been the reason he was the first to get fired when Heidi took over. Tuley quietly organized a campaign where the other employees took a pay cut to get him re-hired.
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* YesMan: As noted, all he ever did at Hard 8 staff meetings was agree with Gary Jackson's pronouncements. According to the [[WordOfGod cast list]], his playtest reports described every newly developed game as "the next TabletopGame/HackMaster".
!!Pete "Skip" Skipowski
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A college buddy of Gary Jackson's who became a game designer for Hard 8 when the company was formed.
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* SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute: At one point when [=JoJo=] was unavailable, Skip was sent to deal with the [[RunningGag latest "problem in Muncie".]]
!!Edmund Finley
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A younger game designer for the company, his pet project was a game called "Abe, Babes and Roller Blades," described as a "sexy, zany, time-travelling romp through history and fashion."
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!!Tuley Priswinkle
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For a long time, Tuley was the company's unpaid customer service representative, under the impression that he was playtesting a virtual corporation computer game. He eventually became a regular employee and even sat in the boardroom for a while during Heidi's tenure.
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* SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute: At one point when [=JoJo=] was unavailable, Skip was sent to deal with the [[RunningGag latest "problem in Muncie".]]
!!Edmund Finley
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A younger game designer for the company, his pet project was a game called "Abe, Babes and Roller Blades," described as a "sexy, zany, time-travelling romp through history and fashion."
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!!Tuley Priswinkle
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For a long time, Tuley was the company's unpaid customer service representative, under the impression that he was playtesting a virtual corporation computer game. He eventually became a regular employee and even sat in the boardroom for a while during Heidi's tenure.
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* SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute: At one point when [=JoJo=] was unavailable, Skip was sent
!!Edmund Finley
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A younger
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!!Tuley Priswinkle
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* AscendedFanboy: Started working at the company's phoneline and eventually became part of the board.
* BecomingTheMask: He eventually figured out the ruse but continued to "play" the "game" because it was fun. Shortly after that, he became an actual employee.
!!Timmy Jackson
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The son and heir of Gary Jackson. Gary used to let Timmy create material for the game in an egregious example of nepotism (the kid was eight, and it showed in his work). After Gary's death, Heidi sent him off to military school, where he discovered football and girls and decided roleplaying games were uncool.
* BecomingTheMask: He eventually figured out the ruse but continued to "play" the "game" because it was fun. Shortly after that, he became an actual employee.
!!Timmy Jackson
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The son and heir of Gary Jackson. Gary used to let Timmy create material for the game in an egregious example of nepotism (the kid was eight, and it showed in his work). After Gary's death, Heidi sent him off to military school, where he discovered football and girls and decided roleplaying games were uncool.
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* AscendedFanboy: Started working at AllBikersAreHellsAngels: A hulking, brutish ex-con motorcyclist.
* BreakoutCharacter: He's become one of thecompany's phoneline most popular characters; he's the oddball who can't quite fit into an otherwise fairly well-adjusted group.
* ChronicBackstabbingDisorder: Has mostly recovered from this but even to this day he charges for the healing his cleric "Friar Swayze" doles out.
* EmbarrassingFirstName: Leslie.
* HeelFaceTurn: When introduced, he's an ex-con who still seems willing to engage in criminal behavior but he makes an earnest effort to go straight for his old lady and eventuallybecame part becomes an honorable JerkWithAHeartOfGold.
** The turning point comes when [[ItMakesSenseInContext he winds up locked up in prison]] with the Black Hands and insists on playing the Western RPG Cattlepunk. These were his [[AlwaysChaoticEvil earliest days]] in the hobby, so the Black Hands spent most of their time rolling up new characters and trying to avoid being gunned down by Crutch for their starting money - [[AlwaysABiggerFish even Stevil.]]
* KillerGamemaster: He couldn't get accredited to run Hackmaster, but found his niche running an old gang-violence RPG called ''Crime Nation.'' The body count is so high that even ''Weird Pete'' thinks it's high. A lot of cast usually found at other tables have turned up at Crutch's ''Crime Nation'' game, apparently for love of theboard.
* BecomingTheMask: He eventually figured out the ruse but continued to "play" the "game" because it was fun. Shortly after that, he became an actual employee.
!!Timmy Jackson
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!!Mo
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The son A middle aged widow/ex-housewife living off life insurance and heir of Gary Jackson. Gary used to let Timmy create material for inheritance, Mo met Patty volunteering at an after school program and was excited about trying out Hackmaster. At the game in an egregious example of nepotism (the kid was eight, table, she's very outspoken and blunt but nice, which makes it showed all the more surprising when she kicks your teeth in his work). After Gary's death, Heidi sent him off to military school, where he discovered football and girls and decided roleplaying games were uncool.steals your loot.
* BreakoutCharacter: He's become one of the
* ChronicBackstabbingDisorder: Has mostly recovered from this but even to this day he charges for the healing his cleric "Friar Swayze" doles out.
* EmbarrassingFirstName: Leslie.
* HeelFaceTurn: When introduced, he's an ex-con who still seems willing to engage in criminal behavior but he makes an earnest effort to go straight for his old lady and eventually
** The turning point comes when [[ItMakesSenseInContext he winds up locked up in prison]] with the Black Hands and insists on playing the Western RPG Cattlepunk. These were his [[AlwaysChaoticEvil earliest days]] in the hobby, so the Black Hands spent most of their time rolling up new characters and trying to avoid being gunned down by Crutch for their starting money - [[AlwaysABiggerFish even Stevil.]]
* KillerGamemaster: He couldn't get accredited to run Hackmaster, but found his niche running an old gang-violence RPG called ''Crime Nation.'' The body count is so high that even ''Weird Pete'' thinks it's high. A lot of cast usually found at other tables have turned up at Crutch's ''Crime Nation'' game, apparently for love of the
* BecomingTheMask: He eventually figured out the ruse but continued to "play" the "game" because it was fun. Shortly after that, he became an actual employee.
!!Timmy Jackson
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!!Mo
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* [[invoked]]GodModeSue: InUniverse: When [=GMing=] the final round of the grudge match arc, he arbitrarily threw monsters and damage at the players. They managed to beat him by using the same tactic right back at him, causing him to break down and leave the table crying, giving the players a default win.
* {{Nepotism}}: Gary Jackson let him write Hard 8 supplements. The results were about what you would expect from an eight-year-old who doesn't know what he's doing.
!!Heidi Jackson
Gary's ex-wife and the runner of a successful paperback publishing company. Gary left Hard 8 to his son Timmy but the company is being held in trust till he turns 18 leaving Heidi to run the company as the trustee. She clearly has an axe to grind with her deceased ex but also is (presumably) trying to protect her son's legacy and make it profitable. Problem is, Hard 8 had always been a labor of love whereas Heidi expects the company to perform like hers does. This is pretty clearly a nod to Lorraine Williams (though not a direct parody) who was part of a business deal that took [=DnD=] from Creator/GaryGygax and played a role in the failure of Creator/{{TSR}}. She also released a new edition of Hackmaster, the only details for which seemed to match up with 4th edition Dungeons and Dragons from real life.
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* BadBoss: Not incompetent, she was simply mean to the Hard 8 staff, constantly cutting their budget and involving herself overly in aspects of the process she didn't really understand.
* DragonLady: Referred to as such, though she's not asian and only metaphorically fits the type.
* [[invoked]] ExecutiveMeddling: After finally playing a session of Hackmaster, she decided lots of changes needed to be made, which basically ruined the game. Based on the protests, the game has some superficial resemblance to the initial release of fourth edition ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons''. WordOfGod has said it wasn't a conscious decision but not a wrong take either.
* TyrantTakesTheHelm: How the Hard 8 staff view her despite how badly Gary mismanaged the company. They are proven right since her products are terrible.
* {{Nepotism}}: Gary Jackson let him write Hard 8 supplements. The results were about what you would expect from an eight-year-old who doesn't know what he's doing.
!!Heidi Jackson
Gary's ex-wife and the runner of a successful paperback publishing company. Gary left Hard 8 to his son Timmy but the company is being held in trust till he turns 18 leaving Heidi to run the company as the trustee. She clearly has an axe to grind with her deceased ex but also is (presumably) trying to protect her son's legacy and make it profitable. Problem is, Hard 8 had always been a labor of love whereas Heidi expects the company to perform like hers does. This is pretty clearly a nod to Lorraine Williams (though not a direct parody) who was part of a business deal that took [=DnD=] from Creator/GaryGygax and played a role in the failure of Creator/{{TSR}}. She also released a new edition of Hackmaster, the only details for which seemed to match up with 4th edition Dungeons and Dragons from real life.
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* BadBoss: Not incompetent, she was simply mean to the Hard 8 staff, constantly cutting their budget and involving herself overly in aspects of the process she didn't really understand.
* DragonLady: Referred to as such, though she's not asian and only metaphorically fits the type.
* [[invoked]] ExecutiveMeddling: After finally playing a session of Hackmaster, she decided lots of changes needed to be made, which basically ruined the game. Based on the protests, the game has some superficial resemblance to the initial release of fourth edition ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons''. WordOfGod has said it wasn't a conscious decision but not a wrong take either.
* TyrantTakesTheHelm: How the Hard 8 staff view her despite how badly Gary mismanaged the company. They are proven right since her products are terrible.
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* [[invoked]]GodModeSue: InUniverse: When [=GMing=] TheMunchkin: Mo is the final round of the grudge match arc, he arbitrarily threw monsters and damage at the players. They managed to beat him by using the same tactic right back at him, causing him to break down and leave the table crying, giving the players a default win.
* {{Nepotism}}: Gary Jackson let him write Hard 8 supplements. The results were about what you would expect from an eight-year-old who doesn't know what he's doing.
!!Heidi Jackson
Gary's ex-wife and the runner of a successful paperback publishing company. Gary left Hard 8 to his son Timmy but the company is being heldunique case in trust till he turns 18 leaving Heidi to run the company as the trustee. She clearly has an axe to grind with her deceased ex but also is (presumably) trying to protect her son's legacy and make it profitable. Problem is, Hard 8 had always been a labor of love whereas Heidi expects the company to perform like hers does. This is pretty clearly a nod to Lorraine Williams (though not a direct parody) who was part much all of fiction of a business deal middle aged female that took [=DnD=] from Creator/GaryGygax and played a role in the failure of Creator/{{TSR}}. She also released a new edition of Hackmaster, fits this trope. Probably the only details difference between her and the other munchkins is its all fun and games for which seemed to match up with 4th edition Dungeons her and Dragons from real life.
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* BadBoss: Not incompetent, she was simply mean to the Hard 8 staff, constantly cutting their budget and involving herself overly in aspects of the process she didn't really understand.
* DragonLady: Referred to as such, thoughshe's not asian and only metaphorically fits the type.
* [[invoked]] ExecutiveMeddling: After finally playing a session of Hackmaster, she decided lots of changes neededgoing to be made, which basically ruined the game. Based on the protests, the game has some superficial resemblance to the initial release of fourth edition ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons''. WordOfGod has said it wasn't a conscious decision but not a wrong take either.
* TyrantTakesTheHelm: How the Hard 8 staff viewget overly upset if things don't go her despite how badly Gary mismanaged the company. They are proven right since her products are terrible.
way.
* {{Nepotism}}: Gary Jackson let him write Hard 8 supplements. The results were about what you would expect from an eight-year-old who doesn't know what he's doing.
!!Heidi Jackson
Gary's ex-wife and the runner of a successful paperback publishing company. Gary left Hard 8 to his son Timmy but the company is being held
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* BadBoss: Not incompetent, she was simply mean to the Hard 8 staff, constantly cutting their budget and involving herself overly in aspects of the process she didn't really understand.
* DragonLady: Referred to as such, though
* [[invoked]] ExecutiveMeddling: After finally playing a session of Hackmaster, she decided lots of changes needed
* TyrantTakesTheHelm: How the Hard 8 staff view
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[[folder:Patty's Perps]]
The third name level gaming group to gain continual focus in the strips. The group is known for its eclectic group of hardcases, people who mostly wouldn't fit in with normal society or even other gamers in many places. Like the other gamemasters, Patti has her quirks which include a swear jar, a time out corner, and the use of M & M's to track experience points, all of which come from Patti's background as a school teacher.
The third name level gaming group to gain continual focus in the strips. The group is known for its eclectic group of hardcases, people who mostly wouldn't fit in with normal society or even other gamers in many places. Like the other gamemasters, Patti has her quirks which include a swear jar, a time out corner, and the use of M & M's to track experience points, all of which come from Patti's background as a school teacher.
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The third name level
An all-female gaming group
!! Sheila Horowitz
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First mentioned offscreen as the female gamer who beat up B.A. over an in-game dispute, Sheila didn't become an on-screen character for
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* GoodCounterpart: Unlike the Black Hands who are worse than the Knights, the Patty's Perps are optimistic and loving.
* RagtagBunchOfMisfits: They have nothing in common but gaming.
!!Patty Gauzweiler
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The Gamemaster. Patty is a school teacher who hosts games in her trailer and tends to take in lost souls or anyone who looks like they need some mothering. This, perhaps, explains why she was shown in her earliest appearances relentlessly pursuing [[ManChild Dave]] to resume the relationship they once had. Patty is also the Gamemaster for the local but seldom shown Ladies of Hack group consisting of most of the regular female characters. Though she has a basically good heart, Patty is also a master of the evil situation, once manipulating her group's entire party into jumping into a lava pit just so she could win a bet with the other Gamemasters in town.
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* BerserkButton: Brian in general hacks her off, but he really pushes her button when he ropes Bob into his schemes or takes advantage of him. And Brian put a brick on her button when he sent Bob to Hard 8 by mail and the
* DeadpanSnarker: She's got a biting comment for every occasion.
* TheDreaded: Where Brian is dreaded by gamemasters all over Muncie, Sheila is dreaded by pretty much everybody. She's got a nasty streak a mile wide, has a fondness for {{Disproportionate Retribution}}s and doesn't care overly much who
* FourEyesZeroSoul: Played straight most of the
*
* TheRealMan: Gender-flipped. Possibly the only thing she and Bob have
* SitcomArchEnemy: Has been this to B.A. and to Sara, but
!!Patty Gauzweiler
* {{Tsundere}} Used to game with the Knights until B.A. accused her of cheating and they got in a fist fight. Sheila was the big reason the Knights were leery about letting Sara join the group.
!! Bridget Keating
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* EightiesHair: Has a particularly lush and large do.
* FriendToAllChildren: She seems to adore and be adored by all of Muncie’s kids.
* HeroesWantRedheads: BA certainly does.
* InformedAttractiveness: She's supposed to be quite attractive, but drawing attractive women isn't really Jolly's strong point. Her appearance is kind of an artifact; later 'pretty girl' characters are drawn more attractively, but changing Patty's model might make the character unrecognizable.
* MisplacedKindergartenTeacher: Patty actually ''is'' a kindergarten teacher. However, she has difficulties turning the attitude off and ends up treating her gaming group like a bunch of preschoolers, including a "Time Out Corner" with "5 points to ponder".
** Given the way some gamers act in this comic, treating them like preschoolers might be giving them too much credit.
* TeamMom: All up and down the line, she cares for her group very much but also disciplines them like her students.
!!Chad Aguilar
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* FriendToAllChildren: She seems to adore and be adored by all of Muncie’s kids.
* HeroesWantRedheads: BA certainly does.
* InformedAttractiveness: She's supposed to be quite attractive, but drawing attractive women isn't really Jolly's strong point. Her appearance is kind of an artifact; later 'pretty girl' characters are drawn more attractively, but changing Patty's model might make the character unrecognizable.
* MisplacedKindergartenTeacher: Patty actually ''is'' a kindergarten teacher. However, she has difficulties turning the attitude off and ends up treating her gaming group like a bunch of preschoolers, including a "Time Out Corner" with "5 points to ponder".
** Given the way some gamers act in this comic, treating them like preschoolers might be giving them too much credit.
* TeamMom: All up and down the line, she cares for her group very much but also disciplines them like her students.
!!Chad Aguilar
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* EightiesHair: Has a particularly lush and large do.
* FriendToAllChildren: She seems to adore and be adored by all of Muncie’s kids.
* HeroesWantRedheads: BA certainly does.
* InformedAttractiveness:ArtShift: Most strongly in early appearances. She's supposed to be quite attractive, but drawing attractive women isn't really Jolly's strong point. Her appearance is kind of an artifact; later 'pretty girl' characters are still drawn more attractively, but changing Patty's model might make a lot less googly-eyed and scribble-fingered than the character unrecognizable.
rest of the cast.
*MisplacedKindergartenTeacher: Patty actually ''is'' a kindergarten teacher. However, IHaveBoobsYouMustObey: Most of the time, though hilariously subverted when she has difficulties turning tried to charm her way past a KnightTemplar guarding the attitude off door at Gary Con.
* TheVamp: Happily uses her cosplay outfits andends up treating her gaming group like a bunch of preschoolers, including a "Time Out Corner" with "5 points sex appeal to ponder".
** Given the way some gamers act in this comic, treating them like preschoolers might be giving them too much credit.
* TeamMom: All up and down the line, she cares for her group very much but also disciplines them like her students.
!!Chad Aguilar
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!!Trish
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* FriendToAllChildren: She seems to adore and be adored by all of Muncie’s kids.
* HeroesWantRedheads: BA certainly does.
* InformedAttractiveness:
*
* TheVamp: Happily uses her cosplay outfits and
** Given the way some gamers act in this comic, treating them like preschoolers might be giving them too much credit.
* TeamMom: All up and down the line, she cares for her group very much but also disciplines them like her students.
!!Chad Aguilar
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!!Trish
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A long time member of the group. Though Chad fits in socially as a college student, he started gaming in middle school where his munchkin tendencies kept him away from other gaming tables leading Patty to take him in. Today, he's more the team spitfire, easily irritated but a bit more mature as a player. Recently, Chad has been bringing his pacifist fiancee Reese to the table; she's more than a little disturbed by all the violence in these games.
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* ClosetGeek: Chad was very, very reluctant to reveal his hobby to Reese - to the point of hiring [[HookerWithAHeartOfGold Trish]] to impersonate her when the group insisted on being allowed to meet 'Reese'.
* HotBlooded: To a lesser extent than Bob but still present.
* SatelliteCharacter: He's less flawed, and therefore less amusing: he doesn't get much screen time of his own.
!!Eddie "Tank" Rodriguez
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Pretty much the embodiment of the modern gamer geek stereotype, Tank is a large, obese, hairy, timid, thoughtful man who is awkward around women (even by KODT standards.) He's gentle to the point of being an emotional doormat for the rest of the group. For a long time, the only other character he was known to associate with outside of the Perps was Trish, from the Ladies of Hack. This was expanded slightly by the Java Joint spinoff strip, which showed him in a book club with Patty and Sara.
* HotBlooded: To a lesser extent than Bob but still present.
* SatelliteCharacter: He's less flawed, and therefore less amusing: he doesn't get much screen time of his own.
!!Eddie "Tank" Rodriguez
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Pretty much the embodiment of the modern gamer geek stereotype, Tank is a large, obese, hairy, timid, thoughtful man who is awkward around women (even by KODT standards.) He's gentle to the point of being an emotional doormat for the rest of the group. For a long time, the only other character he was known to associate with outside of the Perps was Trish, from the Ladies of Hack. This was expanded slightly by the Java Joint spinoff strip, which showed him in a book club with Patty and Sara.
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* ClosetGeek: Chad HighClassCallGirl: Works with a service and in good conditions.
* HookerWithAHeartOfGold: Technically an escort with a heart of gold. She's nice to Tank and even stands up for him to his friends. Later, she buys him some really nice gaming merchandise which, to judge Weird Pete's reaction, offset a good chunk of what Tank paid for her services.
* UglyGuyHotWife: Sort of. There wasvery, very reluctant to reveal his hobby to Reese - to the point a lot of hiring [[HookerWithAHeartOfGold Trish]] to impersonate her head-scratching in Muncie when the group insisted on being allowed to meet 'Reese'.
* HotBlooded: To a lesser extent than Bob but still present.
* SatelliteCharacter: He's less flawed,Trish started showing up in public with Tank and therefore less amusing: he doesn't get much screen time of his own.
!!Eddie "Tank" Rodriguez
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[[folder:Others]]
!!Squirrely (aka Squire Lee)
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Pretty much A chimp [[AllThereInTheManual formerly used as a military research subject,]] who wound up being adopted by Weird Pete. He seems to have a solid grasp of spoken English, the embodiment of ability to read and operate a cash register (although he's never mastered the modern gamer geek stereotype, Tank is a large, obese, hairy, timid, thoughtful man who is awkward around women (even by KODT standards.) art of making change), and has even sat in on games. He's gentle to the point of being an emotional doormat for the rest of the group. For a long time, the only other character he was known to associate chain-smoker with outside a wide mean streak. Several characters have suffered AmusingInjuries as a result of the Perps was Trish, from the Ladies of Hack. This was expanded slightly by the Java Joint spinoff strip, which showed him in a book club with Patty and Sara.crossing him.
* HookerWithAHeartOfGold: Technically an escort with a heart of gold. She's nice to Tank and even stands up for him to his friends. Later, she buys him some really nice gaming merchandise which, to judge Weird Pete's reaction, offset a good chunk of what Tank paid for her services.
* UglyGuyHotWife: Sort of. There was
* HotBlooded: To a lesser extent than Bob but still present.
* SatelliteCharacter: He's less flawed,
!!Eddie "Tank" Rodriguez
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!!Squirrely (aka Squire Lee)
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* AscendedExtra: One of the stars of the Java Joint strips with Sarah and Patty.
* GentleGiant: He's a larger character but one of the least violent gamers in Muncie.
* PlatonicProstitution: He hired Trish to game with him. She enjoyed it enough to join the Ladies of Hack and came to like Tank enough to give him gifts that probably offset most of what she was paid.
!!Leslie "Crutch" Humphries
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An ex-con gone straight. Crutch met the Black Hands when they decided to game at Hawg Wallers. Crutch and others around thought the Hands were planning a bank heist (in fact, they were playing a Western RPG and were plotting to rob a bank in-game). After spending a few nights in jail with the Black Hands over this misunderstanding, Crutch fell in love with gaming and began seeking gaming groups. Unfortunately, his enthusiasm for Hack and Slash extended to killing other player's characters at the table so he couldn't find a group until BA directed him to Patty, who has made him her latest project. He has recently become a surprise hit [=GMing=] "Crime Nation," bringing realistic grittiness into his game thanks to his personal experience in crime.
* GentleGiant: He's a larger character but one of the least violent gamers in Muncie.
* PlatonicProstitution: He hired Trish to game with him. She enjoyed it enough to join the Ladies of Hack and came to like Tank enough to give him gifts that probably offset most of what she was paid.
!!Leslie "Crutch" Humphries
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An ex-con gone straight. Crutch met the Black Hands when they decided to game at Hawg Wallers. Crutch and others around thought the Hands were planning a bank heist (in fact, they were playing a Western RPG and were plotting to rob a bank in-game). After spending a few nights in jail with the Black Hands over this misunderstanding, Crutch fell in love with gaming and began seeking gaming groups. Unfortunately, his enthusiasm for Hack and Slash extended to killing other player's characters at the table so he couldn't find a group until BA directed him to Patty, who has made him her latest project. He has recently become a surprise hit [=GMing=] "Crime Nation," bringing realistic grittiness into his game thanks to his personal experience in crime.
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* AscendedExtra: One of BerserkButton: He has several, but they seem to change over time.
* HeroicComedicSociopath:
--> '''Pete:''' He stole Stevil's wallet and inhaler and crawled into thestars of the Java Joint strips heating duct.
--> '''Gordo:''' Stevil didn't crawl in after him, did he? I tried that once and he stole my glasses and gave me a reverse wedgie.
--> '''Pete:''' Nah, he's trying to flush him out withSarah the fire extinguisher.
* TheUnintelligible: Though able to understand English very well, Squirrely only speaks in ape noises.
** Lampshaded when Weird Pete - andPatty.
* GentleGiant: He'sto a larger character but one of lesser extent, Dave and Gordo - seem to get the least violent gamers in Muncie.
* PlatonicProstitution: He hired Trishgist of everything Squirrely attempts to game with him. She enjoyed it communicate. Gordo even manages to understand him well enough to join successfully play "I Spy" with him.
* NearlyNormalAnimal: Chimps are already pretty humanlike, but Squirrely takes it to theLadies of Hack and came to like Tank enough to give him gifts that probably offset most of what she was paid.
!!Leslie "Crutch" Humphries
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An ex-con gone straight. Crutch metnext level.
* UnusuallyUninterestingSight: A chimp tending theBlack Hands when they decided to cash register at your local game at Hawg Wallers. Crutch store? No big deal.
!!Croix andothers around thought the Hands were planning a bank heist (in fact, they were playing a Western RPG Hunter
Bob's Niece andwere plotting Nephew respectively. Bob occasionally tries to rob a bank in-game). After spending a few nights in jail with the Black Hands over this misunderstanding, Crutch fell in love with gaming run games for them and began seeking gaming groups. Unfortunately, his enthusiasm for Hack and Slash extended to killing other player's characters at the table so he couldn't find a group until BA directed him to Patty, who sometimes has made him her latest project. He to borrow Croix's laptop to play World of Hackcraft. Croix has recently become a surprise hit [=GMing=] "Crime Nation," bringing realistic grittiness into his game thanks to his personal experience in crime.an innocent crush on Dave.
* HeroicComedicSociopath:
--> '''Pete:''' He stole Stevil's wallet and inhaler and crawled into the
--> '''Gordo:''' Stevil didn't crawl in after him, did he? I tried that once and he stole my glasses and gave me a reverse wedgie.
--> '''Pete:''' Nah, he's trying to flush him out with
* TheUnintelligible: Though able to understand English very well, Squirrely only speaks in ape noises.
** Lampshaded when Weird Pete - and
* GentleGiant: He's
* PlatonicProstitution: He hired Trish
* NearlyNormalAnimal: Chimps are already pretty humanlike, but Squirrely takes it to the
!!Leslie "Crutch" Humphries
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An ex-con gone straight. Crutch met
* UnusuallyUninterestingSight: A chimp tending the
!!Croix and
Bob's Niece and
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* AllBikersAreHellsAngels: A hulking, brutish ex-con motorcyclist.
* BreakoutCharacter: He's become one of the most popular characters; he's the oddball who can't quite fit into an otherwise fairly well-adjusted group.
* ChronicBackstabbingDisorder: Has mostly recovered from this but even to this day he charges for the healing his cleric "Friar Swayze" doles out.
* EmbarrassingFirstName: Leslie.
* HeelFaceTurn: When introduced, he's an ex-con who still seems willing to engage in criminal behavior but he makes an earnest effort to go straight for his old lady and eventually becomes an honorable JerkWithAHeartOfGold.
** The turning point comes when [[ItMakesSenseInContext he winds up locked up in prison]] with the Black Hands and insists on playing the Western RPG Cattlepunk. These were his [[AlwaysChaoticEvil earliest days]] in the hobby, so the Black Hands spent most of their time rolling up new characters and trying to avoid being gunned down by Crutch for their starting money - [[AlwaysABiggerFish even Stevil.]]
* KillerGamemaster: He couldn't get accredited to run Hackmaster, but found his niche running an old gang-violence RPG called ''Crime Nation.'' The body count is so high that even ''Weird Pete'' thinks it's high. A lot of cast usually found at other tables have turned up at Crutch's ''Crime Nation'' game, apparently for love of the challenge.
!!Mo
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A middle aged widow/ex-housewife living off life insurance and inheritance, Mo met Patty volunteering at an after school program and was excited about trying out Hackmaster. At the table, she's very outspoken and blunt but nice, which makes it all the more surprising when she kicks your teeth in and steals your loot.
* BreakoutCharacter: He's become one of the most popular characters; he's the oddball who can't quite fit into an otherwise fairly well-adjusted group.
* ChronicBackstabbingDisorder: Has mostly recovered from this but even to this day he charges for the healing his cleric "Friar Swayze" doles out.
* EmbarrassingFirstName: Leslie.
* HeelFaceTurn: When introduced, he's an ex-con who still seems willing to engage in criminal behavior but he makes an earnest effort to go straight for his old lady and eventually becomes an honorable JerkWithAHeartOfGold.
** The turning point comes when [[ItMakesSenseInContext he winds up locked up in prison]] with the Black Hands and insists on playing the Western RPG Cattlepunk. These were his [[AlwaysChaoticEvil earliest days]] in the hobby, so the Black Hands spent most of their time rolling up new characters and trying to avoid being gunned down by Crutch for their starting money - [[AlwaysABiggerFish even Stevil.]]
* KillerGamemaster: He couldn't get accredited to run Hackmaster, but found his niche running an old gang-violence RPG called ''Crime Nation.'' The body count is so high that even ''Weird Pete'' thinks it's high. A lot of cast usually found at other tables have turned up at Crutch's ''Crime Nation'' game, apparently for love of the challenge.
!!Mo
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A middle aged widow/ex-housewife living off life insurance and inheritance, Mo met Patty volunteering at an after school program and was excited about trying out Hackmaster. At the table, she's very outspoken and blunt but nice, which makes it all the more surprising when she kicks your teeth in and steals your loot.
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* AllBikersAreHellsAngels: A hulking, brutish ex-con motorcyclist.
* BreakoutCharacter: He's become one of the most popular characters; he's the oddball who can't quite fit into an otherwise fairly well-adjusted group.
* ChronicBackstabbingDisorder: Has mostly recovered from this but even to this day he charges for the healing his cleric "Friar Swayze" doles out.
* EmbarrassingFirstName: Leslie.
* HeelFaceTurn: When introduced, he's an ex-con who still seems willing to engage in criminal behavior but hePrecociousCrush: Croix has a crush on Dave. She's probably ten. It makes an earnest effort to go straight for his old lady and eventually becomes an honorable JerkWithAHeartOfGold.
** The turning point comes when [[ItMakesSenseInContext he winds up locked up in prison]] with the Black Hands and insists on playing the Western RPG Cattlepunk. These were his [[AlwaysChaoticEvil earliest days]] in the hobby, so the Black Hands spent most of their time rolling up new characters and trying to avoid being gunned down by Crutch for their starting money - [[AlwaysABiggerFish even Stevil.]]
* KillerGamemaster: He couldn't get accredited to run Hackmaster, but found his niche running an old gang-violence RPG called ''Crime Nation.'' The body count is so high that even ''Weird Pete'' thinks it's high. A lot of cast usually found at other tables have turned up at Crutch's ''Crime Nation'' game, apparently for love of the challenge.
!!Mo
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!! Ty Ferfel
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Nitro's nephew. Amiddle aged widow/ex-housewife living off life insurance young gamer that hangs out on the periphery of the community and inheritance, Mo met Patty volunteering at an after school program and was excited about trying out Hackmaster. At is often involved in under the table, she's very outspoken and blunt but nice, which makes it all the more surprising when she kicks your teeth in and steals your loot.table dealings.
* BreakoutCharacter: He's become one of the most popular characters; he's the oddball who can't quite fit into an otherwise fairly well-adjusted group.
* ChronicBackstabbingDisorder: Has mostly recovered from this but even to this day he charges for the healing his cleric "Friar Swayze" doles out.
* EmbarrassingFirstName: Leslie.
* HeelFaceTurn: When introduced, he's an ex-con who still seems willing to engage in criminal behavior but he
** The turning point comes when [[ItMakesSenseInContext he winds up locked up in prison]] with the Black Hands and insists on playing the Western RPG Cattlepunk. These were his [[AlwaysChaoticEvil earliest days]] in the hobby, so the Black Hands spent most of their time rolling up new characters and trying to avoid being gunned down by Crutch for their starting money - [[AlwaysABiggerFish even Stevil.]]
* KillerGamemaster: He couldn't get accredited to run Hackmaster, but found his niche running an old gang-violence RPG called ''Crime Nation.'' The body count is so high that even ''Weird Pete'' thinks it's high. A lot of cast usually found at other tables have turned up at Crutch's ''Crime Nation'' game, apparently for love of the challenge.
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* TheMunchkin: Mo is the unique case in pretty much all of fiction of a middle aged female that fits this trope. Probably the only difference between her and the other munchkins is its all fun and games for her and she's not going to get overly upset if things don't go her way.
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[[folder:Ladies of Hack]]
An all-female gaming group that meets separately from the male-dominated Muncie gaming community (though nearly all of them have other groups they play with regularly and for tournament purposes). They're also part of a larger organization of the same name that lobbies Hard8 and the TabletopGame/HackMaster Players' Association to change the sexist depictions of women and some of the more chauvinistic rules (such as the Strength penalty for female characters.) The local group is run by Patty Gauzweiler. Although the LoH are only rarely shown actually gaming, their membership includes most of the strip's prominent female gamers, including Sara, Patty, and several others.
!! Sheila Horowitz
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First mentioned offscreen as the female gamer who beat up B.A. over an in-game dispute, Sheila didn't become an on-screen character for a long time. For a while she was nearly a nemesis of the Knights: then she rather unexpectedly started dating Bob - partly out of admiration for Bob's commitment to the game and partly because he needs mothering. Tends to play [[KnightInSourArmor Knight Errants]].
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An all-female gaming group that meets separately from the male-dominated Muncie gaming community (though nearly all of them have other groups they play with regularly and for tournament purposes). They're also part of a larger organization of the same name that lobbies Hard8 and the TabletopGame/HackMaster Players' Association to change the sexist depictions of women and some of the more chauvinistic rules (such as the Strength penalty for female characters.) The local group is run by Patty Gauzweiler. Although the LoH are only rarely shown actually gaming, their membership includes most of the strip's prominent female gamers, including Sara, Patty, and several others.
!! Sheila Horowitz
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First mentioned offscreen as the female gamer who beat up B.A. over an in-game dispute, Sheila didn't become an on-screen character for a long time. For a while she was nearly a nemesis of the Knights: then she rather unexpectedly started dating Bob - partly out of admiration for Bob's commitment to the game and partly because he needs mothering. Tends to play [[KnightInSourArmor Knight Errants]].
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* TheMunchkin: Mo is the unique case in pretty much all of fiction of a middle aged female that fits this trope. Probably the only difference between her and the other munchkins is its all fun and games for her and she's not going to get overly upset if things don't go her way.
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[[folder:Ladies of Hack]]
An all-female gaming group that meets separately from the male-dominated Muncie gaming community (though nearly all of them have other groups they play with regularly and for tournament purposes). They're also part of a larger organization of the same name that lobbies Hard8 and the TabletopGame/HackMaster Players' Association to change the sexist depictions of women and some of the more chauvinistic rules (such as the Strength penalty for female characters.) The local group is run by Patty Gauzweiler. Although the LoH are only rarely shownConsummateProfessional: He actually gaming, their membership includes most of is this regards to gaming and is so to the strip's prominent female gamers, including Sara, Patty, and several others.
point of being paid as a temp.
!!Sheila Horowitz
Earl Slackmozer
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First mentioned offscreen as the female gamer A rival gamemaster who beat up gets a lot of buzz when he first comes to town, having had a module published by Hard 8 (something B.A. over an in-game dispute, Sheila didn't has long tried and failed). At first seems to be the superstar but eventually loses his shine and after being humbled, he and B.A. become an on-screen character for a long time. For a while she was nearly a nemesis of the Knights: then she rather unexpectedly started dating Bob - partly out of admiration for Bob's commitment to the game and partly because he needs mothering. Tends to play [[KnightInSourArmor Knight Errants]].friends. Earl currently works at Weird Pete's shop.
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An all-female gaming group that meets separately from the male-dominated Muncie gaming community (though nearly all of them have other groups they play with regularly and for tournament purposes). They're also part of a larger organization of the same name that lobbies Hard8 and the TabletopGame/HackMaster Players' Association to change the sexist depictions of women and some of the more chauvinistic rules (such as the Strength penalty for female characters.) The local group is run by Patty Gauzweiler. Although the LoH are only rarely shown
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* AwwLookTheyReallyDoLoveEachOther: With Bob. As hard as she is on him, and as much as she talks down on/to him, she really ''does'' love him.
* BerserkButton: Brian in general hacks her off, but he really pushes her button when he ropes Bob into his schemes or takes advantage of him. And Brian put a brick on her button when he sent Bob to Hard 8 by mail and the box got ''lost in transit'', and then not even a few weeks later cons Bob into giving him Bob and Sheila's ''rent money'' to finance another scheme. It's only a small exaggeration to say Brian's lucky Sheila didn't kill him.
* DeadpanSnarker: She's got a biting comment for every occasion.
* TheDreaded: Where Brian is dreaded by gamemasters all over Muncie, Sheila is dreaded by pretty much everybody. She's got a nasty streak a mile wide, has a fondness for {{Disproportionate Retribution}}s and doesn't care overly much who gets caught in the crossfire.
* FourEyesZeroSoul: Played straight most of the time; Sheila is ''not'' a nice person and can in fact be decidedly ''awful'' to people around her -- but it gets subverted when she starts dating Bob and her gentler side comes forward a little more.
* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: When she finally meets Bob's father and realizes how abusive Bob Sr. is to his son, Sheila finally gets a look at what her treatment of Bob looks like from the outside, and it doesn't make her happy.
* TheRealMan: Gender-flipped. Possibly the only thing she and Bob have in common: they're there to kill things.
* SitcomArchEnemy: Has been this to B.A. and to Sara, but nowadays she regards her feud with Brian as SeriousBusiness.
* {{Tsundere}} Used to game with the Knights until B.A. accused her of cheating and they got in a fist fight. Sheila was the big reason the Knights were leery about letting Sara join the group.
!! Bridget Keating
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First introduced when the Knights players one by one get caught up in a Vampire LARP. Bridget was a clan leader and tended to use her *ahem* assets and her willingness to Cosplay along with her clan authority to get the guys to do whatever she wanted. Though she's calmed down she's still almost always seen in some kind of sexy cosplay outfit.
* BerserkButton: Brian in general hacks her off, but he really pushes her button when he ropes Bob into his schemes or takes advantage of him. And Brian put a brick on her button when he sent Bob to Hard 8 by mail and the box got ''lost in transit'', and then not even a few weeks later cons Bob into giving him Bob and Sheila's ''rent money'' to finance another scheme. It's only a small exaggeration to say Brian's lucky Sheila didn't kill him.
* DeadpanSnarker: She's got a biting comment for every occasion.
* TheDreaded: Where Brian is dreaded by gamemasters all over Muncie, Sheila is dreaded by pretty much everybody. She's got a nasty streak a mile wide, has a fondness for {{Disproportionate Retribution}}s and doesn't care overly much who gets caught in the crossfire.
* FourEyesZeroSoul: Played straight most of the time; Sheila is ''not'' a nice person and can in fact be decidedly ''awful'' to people around her -- but it gets subverted when she starts dating Bob and her gentler side comes forward a little more.
* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: When she finally meets Bob's father and realizes how abusive Bob Sr. is to his son, Sheila finally gets a look at what her treatment of Bob looks like from the outside, and it doesn't make her happy.
* TheRealMan: Gender-flipped. Possibly the only thing she and Bob have in common: they're there to kill things.
* SitcomArchEnemy: Has been this to B.A. and to Sara, but nowadays she regards her feud with Brian as SeriousBusiness.
* {{Tsundere}} Used to game with the Knights until B.A. accused her of cheating and they got in a fist fight. Sheila was the big reason the Knights were leery about letting Sara join the group.
!! Bridget Keating
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First introduced when the Knights players one by one get caught up in a Vampire LARP. Bridget was a clan leader and tended to use her *ahem* assets and her willingness to Cosplay along with her clan authority to get the guys to do whatever she wanted. Though she's calmed down she's still almost always seen in some kind of sexy cosplay outfit.
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*
* BerserkButton: Brian
* DeadpanSnarker: She's got a biting comment for every occasion.
* TheDreaded: Where Brian is dreaded by gamemasters all over Muncie, Sheila is dreaded by pretty much everybody. She's got a nasty streak a mile wide, has a fondness for {{Disproportionate Retribution}}s and doesn't care overly much who gets caught in the crossfire.
* FourEyesZeroSoul: Played straight most of the time; Sheila is ''not'' a nice person and can in fact be decidedly ''awful'' to people around her -- but it gets subverted when she starts dating Bob and her gentler side comes forward a little more.
* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: When she finally meets Bob's father and realizes how abusive Bob Sr. is to his son, Sheila finally gets a look at what her treatment of Bob looks like from the outside, and it doesn't make her happy.
* TheRealMan: Gender-flipped. Possibly the only thing she and Bob have in common: they're there to kill things.
* SitcomArchEnemy: Has been this to
* OutOfFocus: He still has a gaming group in Muncie, but he hasn't featured in any stories to speak of for a while.
* TheRival: BA and he used to
* {{Tsundere}} Used to game with
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* ArtShift: Most strongly in early appearances. She's still drawn a lot less googly-eyed and scribble-fingered than the rest of the cast.
* IHaveBoobsYouMustObey: Most of the time, though hilariously subverted when she tried to charm her way past a KnightTemplar guarding the door at Gary Con.
* TheVamp: Happily uses her cosplay outfits and sex appeal to control others.
!!Trish
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* IHaveBoobsYouMustObey: Most of the time, though hilariously subverted when she tried to charm her way past a KnightTemplar guarding the door at Gary Con.
* TheVamp: Happily uses her cosplay outfits and sex appeal to control others.
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* ArtShift: Most strongly in early appearances. She's still drawn a lot less googly-eyed and scribble-fingered than BornLucky: Until the rest of the cast.
* IHaveBoobsYouMustObey: Most of the time, though hilariously subvertedNoodleIncident when she tried to charm her way past a KnightTemplar guarding the door at Gary Con.his dice turned on him.
*TheVamp: Happily uses her cosplay outfits CasanovaWannabe: And he's married.
* FallenHero: This was the attitude B.A, Bob, Dave andsex appeal Brian all had toward him before his return to control others.
!!Trish
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!! Switch
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* IHaveBoobsYouMustObey: Most of the time, though hilariously subverted
*
* FallenHero: This was the attitude B.A, Bob, Dave and
!!Trish
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* HighClassCallGirl: Works with a service and in good conditions.
* HookerWithAHeartOfGold: Technically an escort with a heart of gold. She's nice to Tank and even stands up for him to his friends. Later, she buys him some really nice gaming merchandise which, to judge Weird Pete's reaction, offset a good chunk of what Tank paid for her services.
* UglyGuyHotWife: Sort of. There was a lot of head-scratching in Muncie when Trish started showing up in public with Tank and appeared to be dating him.
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!!Squirrely (aka Squire Lee)
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A chimp [[AllThereInTheManual formerly used as a military research subject,]] who wound up being adopted by Weird Pete. He seems to have a solid grasp of spoken English, the ability to read and operate a cash register (although he's never mastered the art of making change), and has even sat in on games. He's a chain-smoker with a wide mean streak. Several characters have suffered AmusingInjuries as a result of crossing him.
* HookerWithAHeartOfGold: Technically an escort with a heart of gold. She's nice to Tank and even stands up for him to his friends. Later, she buys him some really nice gaming merchandise which, to judge Weird Pete's reaction, offset a good chunk of what Tank paid for her services.
* UglyGuyHotWife: Sort of. There was a lot of head-scratching in Muncie when Trish started showing up in public with Tank and appeared to be dating him.
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!!Squirrely (aka Squire Lee)
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A chimp [[AllThereInTheManual formerly used as a military research subject,]] who wound up being adopted by Weird Pete. He seems to have a solid grasp of spoken English, the ability to read and operate a cash register (although he's never mastered the art of making change), and has even sat in on games. He's a chain-smoker with a wide mean streak. Several characters have suffered AmusingInjuries as a result of crossing him.
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* HighClassCallGirl: Works with AndYouThoughtItWasAGame: After Bob stumbles on Switch planning a service heist and in good conditions.
* HookerWithAHeartOfGold: Technically an escort with a heart of gold. She's nice to Tank and even stands upmistakes it for him to his friends. Later, she buys him some really nice a gaming merchandise which, to judge session, Switch plays along and picks his brain for useful tips.
* AndYouThoughtItWasReal: When Switch stumbles on Tank giving Crutch pointers on gamemastering and overhears casual comments about slitting throats and attacking people with flaming oil, he backs away and gets a drink, thinking that Crutch has fallen in with some stone-cold psycho.
* TheStoolPigeon: After getting caught at the scene of a heist, he gives up WeirdPete's reaction, offset Pete (who had filled in for Bob as "game session consultant") to save his own neck. The only reason he doesn't give up Bob is that Bob was too useful to lose.
* TooCleverByHalf: Bob's gaming experience and commitment to roleplaying thieves certainly gives him a goodchunk of what Tank paid mindset for her services.
* UglyGuyHotWife: Sort of. Thereplanning heists but Switch was a lot of head-scratching in Muncie when Trish started showing up in public with Tank and appeared pushing his luck continuing to rely on Bob. Switch must [[GenreSavvy not be dating him.
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!!Squirrely (aka Squire Lee)
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!! Cody Winkle
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A chimp [[AllThereInTheManual formerly used as Seen at a military research subject,]] who wound up being adopted by Weird Pete. He seems to have a solid grasp number of spoken English, the ability to read and operate a cash register (although he's game tables but has never mastered the art of making change), and has fit in with a group... not even sat in on games. the Black Hands. He's a chain-smoker with a wide mean streak. Several characters have suffered AmusingInjuries as a result of crossing him.local actor who likes to use his acting skills at the table and is known for his commitment to story and characterization over game play.
* HookerWithAHeartOfGold: Technically an escort with a heart of gold. She's nice to Tank and even stands up
* AndYouThoughtItWasReal: When Switch stumbles on Tank giving Crutch pointers on gamemastering and overhears casual comments about slitting throats and attacking people with flaming oil, he backs away and gets a drink, thinking that Crutch has fallen in with some stone-cold psycho.
* TheStoolPigeon: After getting caught at the scene of a heist, he gives up Weird
* TooCleverByHalf: Bob's gaming experience and commitment to roleplaying thieves certainly gives him a good
* UglyGuyHotWife: Sort of. There
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!!Squirrely (aka Squire Lee)
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* BerserkButton: He has several, but they seem to change over time.
* HeroicComedicSociopath:
--> '''Pete:''' He stole Stevil's wallet and inhaler and crawled into the heating duct.
--> '''Gordo:''' Stevil didn't crawl in after him, did he? I tried that once and he stole my glasses and gave me a reverse wedgie.
--> '''Pete:''' Nah, he's trying to flush him out with the fire extinguisher.
* TheUnintelligible: Though able to understand English very well, Squirrely only speaks in ape noises.
** Lampshaded when Weird Pete - and to a lesser extent, Dave and Gordo - seem to get the gist of everything Squirrely attempts to communicate. Gordo even manages to understand him well enough to successfully play "I Spy" with him.
* NearlyNormalAnimal: Chimps are already pretty humanlike, but Squirrely takes it to the next level.
* UnusuallyUninterestingSight: A chimp tending the cash register at your local game store? No big deal.
!!Croix and Hunter
Bob's Niece and Nephew respectively. Bob occasionally tries to run games for them and sometimes has to borrow Croix's laptop to play World of Hackcraft. Croix has an innocent crush on Dave.
* HeroicComedicSociopath:
--> '''Pete:''' He stole Stevil's wallet and inhaler and crawled into the heating duct.
--> '''Gordo:''' Stevil didn't crawl in after him, did he? I tried that once and he stole my glasses and gave me a reverse wedgie.
--> '''Pete:''' Nah, he's trying to flush him out with the fire extinguisher.
* TheUnintelligible: Though able to understand English very well, Squirrely only speaks in ape noises.
** Lampshaded when Weird Pete - and to a lesser extent, Dave and Gordo - seem to get the gist of everything Squirrely attempts to communicate. Gordo even manages to understand him well enough to successfully play "I Spy" with him.
* NearlyNormalAnimal: Chimps are already pretty humanlike, but Squirrely takes it to the next level.
* UnusuallyUninterestingSight: A chimp tending the cash register at your local game store? No big deal.
!!Croix and Hunter
Bob's Niece and Nephew respectively. Bob occasionally tries to run games for them and sometimes has to borrow Croix's laptop to play World of Hackcraft. Croix has an innocent crush on Dave.
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* BerserkButton: He has several, but they seem TheRoleplayer: Carried to change over time.
* HeroicComedicSociopath:
--> '''Pete:''' He stole Stevil's wallet and inhaler and crawled into the heating duct.
--> '''Gordo:''' Stevil didn't crawl in after him, did he? I triedan extreme that once and he stole my glasses and gave me a reverse wedgie.
--> '''Pete:''' Nah, he's trying to flushmakes him out with intolerable!
* TalkingToThemself: Not in thefire extinguisher.
* TheUnintelligible: Though able to understand English very well, Squirrely only speaks in ape noises.
** Lampshaded when Weird Pete - and tousual way. His elf bard, Raphael Hoolizar, inherited a lesser extent, Dave and Gordo - seem to get the gist of everything Squirrely attempts to communicate. Gordo even manages to understand him well enough to successfully play "I Spy" with him.
* NearlyNormalAnimal: Chimps are already pretty humanlike, but Squirrely takes it to the next level.
* UnusuallyUninterestingSight: A chimp tending the cash register at your local game store? No big deal.
!!Croix and Hunter
brownie familiar (and hand puppet) named Hodgy from Brian.
!! Bob Herzog, Senior
Bob'sNiece and Nephew respectively. Bob father, occasionally tries referenced offscreen as an obstacle to run games for them and sometimes has to borrow Croix's laptop to play World of Hackcraft. Croix has an innocent crush on Dave.Bob's gaming before finally appearing in the comic.
* HeroicComedicSociopath:
--> '''Pete:''' He stole Stevil's wallet and inhaler and crawled into the heating duct.
--> '''Gordo:''' Stevil didn't crawl in after him, did he? I tried
--> '''Pete:''' Nah, he's trying to flush
* TalkingToThemself: Not in the
* TheUnintelligible: Though able to understand English very well, Squirrely only speaks in ape noises.
** Lampshaded when Weird Pete - and to
* NearlyNormalAnimal: Chimps are already pretty humanlike, but Squirrely takes it to the next level.
* UnusuallyUninterestingSight: A chimp tending the cash register at your local game store? No big deal.
!!Croix and Hunter
!! Bob Herzog, Senior
Bob's
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* PrecociousCrush: Croix has a crush on Dave. She's probably ten. It makes him a little uncomfortable.
!! Ty Ferfel
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Nitro's nephew. A young gamer that hangs out on the periphery of the community and is often involved in under the table dealings.
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* ConsummateProfessional: He actually is this regards to gaming and is so to the point of being paid as a temp.
!! Earl Slackmozer
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A rival gamemaster who gets a lot of buzz when he first comes to town, having had a module published by Hard 8 (something B.A. has long tried and failed). At first seems to be the superstar but eventually loses his shine and after being humbled, he and B.A. become friends. Earl currently works at Weird Pete's shop.
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* TheAce: At first, in relation to B.A.. Earl is a Gamemaster in high demand and the Knights threaten to leave B.A. for him.
* OutOfFocus: He still has a gaming group in Muncie, but he hasn't featured in any stories to speak of for a while.
* TheRival: BA and he used to be this but BA won the allegiance of the gaming community handsomely.
!! Johnny Kizinski
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A Knight of the Dinner Table who left before the strips began, and has turned up a couple of times to sit in on a few games. The Knights are fond of saying "the man could play" but one day his luck ran out and he left the gaming scene. He moved away, got married, has children and runs a Big Juices. A shameless flirt and an opportunist, his overall mentality highlights how the Knights acted before Sara joined.
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* BornLucky: Until the NoodleIncident when his dice turned on him.
* CasanovaWannabe: And he's married.
* FallenHero: This was the attitude B.A, Bob, Dave and Brian all had toward him before his return to gaming.
!! Switch
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Martin "Switch" Wucjik is Crutch's "friend" and former partner in crime before Crutch went straight. Switch is still a criminal and shown to be disloyal, self serving, and a jerk. He'll commit a crime then sell out his friends for reduced sentences. He's the one who gets Bob to help him plan his heists [[AndYouThoughtItWasAGame letting Bob believe it was for a roleplaying game]].
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* AndYouThoughtItWasAGame: After Bob stumbles on Switch planning a heist and mistakes it for a gaming session, Switch plays along and picks his brain for useful tips.
* AndYouThoughtItWasReal: When Switch stumbles on Tank giving Crutch pointers on gamemastering and overhears casual comments about slitting throats and attacking people with flaming oil, he backs away and gets a drink, thinking that Crutch has fallen in with some stone-cold psycho.
* TheStoolPigeon: After getting caught at the scene of a heist, he gives up Weird Pete (who had filled in for Bob as "game session consultant") to save his own neck. The only reason he doesn't give up Bob is that Bob was too useful to lose.
* TooCleverByHalf: Bob's gaming experience and commitment to roleplaying thieves certainly gives him a good mindset for planning heists but Switch was pushing his luck continuing to rely on Bob. Switch must [[GenreSavvy not be savvy about games]] the way Bob is.
!! Cody Winkle
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Seen at a number of game tables but has never fit in with a group... not even the Black Hands. He's a local actor who likes to use his acting skills at the table and is known for his commitment to story and characterization over game play.
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* TheRoleplayer: Carried to an extreme that makes him intolerable!
* TalkingToThemself: Not in the usual way. His elf bard, Raphael Hoolizar, inherited a brownie familiar (and hand puppet) named Hodgy from Brian.
!! Bob Herzog, Senior
Bob's father, occasionally referenced offscreen as an obstacle to Bob's gaming before finally appearing in the comic.
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!! Ty Ferfel
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Nitro's nephew. A young gamer that hangs out on the periphery of the community and is often involved in under the table dealings.
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* ConsummateProfessional: He actually is this regards to gaming and is so to the point of being paid as a temp.
!! Earl Slackmozer
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A rival gamemaster who gets a lot of buzz when he first comes to town, having had a module published by Hard 8 (something B.A. has long tried and failed). At first seems to be the superstar but eventually loses his shine and after being humbled, he and B.A. become friends. Earl currently works at Weird Pete's shop.
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* TheAce: At first, in relation to B.A.. Earl is a Gamemaster in high demand and the Knights threaten to leave B.A. for him.
* OutOfFocus: He still has a gaming group in Muncie, but he hasn't featured in any stories to speak of for a while.
* TheRival: BA and he used to be this but BA won the allegiance of the gaming community handsomely.
!! Johnny Kizinski
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A Knight of the Dinner Table who left before the strips began, and has turned up a couple of times to sit in on a few games. The Knights are fond of saying "the man could play" but one day his luck ran out and he left the gaming scene. He moved away, got married, has children and runs a Big Juices. A shameless flirt and an opportunist, his overall mentality highlights how the Knights acted before Sara joined.
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* BornLucky: Until the NoodleIncident when his dice turned on him.
* CasanovaWannabe: And he's married.
* FallenHero: This was the attitude B.A, Bob, Dave and Brian all had toward him before his return to gaming.
!! Switch
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Martin "Switch" Wucjik is Crutch's "friend" and former partner in crime before Crutch went straight. Switch is still a criminal and shown to be disloyal, self serving, and a jerk. He'll commit a crime then sell out his friends for reduced sentences. He's the one who gets Bob to help him plan his heists [[AndYouThoughtItWasAGame letting Bob believe it was for a roleplaying game]].
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* AndYouThoughtItWasAGame: After Bob stumbles on Switch planning a heist and mistakes it for a gaming session, Switch plays along and picks his brain for useful tips.
* AndYouThoughtItWasReal: When Switch stumbles on Tank giving Crutch pointers on gamemastering and overhears casual comments about slitting throats and attacking people with flaming oil, he backs away and gets a drink, thinking that Crutch has fallen in with some stone-cold psycho.
* TheStoolPigeon: After getting caught at the scene of a heist, he gives up Weird Pete (who had filled in for Bob as "game session consultant") to save his own neck. The only reason he doesn't give up Bob is that Bob was too useful to lose.
* TooCleverByHalf: Bob's gaming experience and commitment to roleplaying thieves certainly gives him a good mindset for planning heists but Switch was pushing his luck continuing to rely on Bob. Switch must [[GenreSavvy not be savvy about games]] the way Bob is.
!! Cody Winkle
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Seen at a number of game tables but has never fit in with a group... not even the Black Hands. He's a local actor who likes to use his acting skills at the table and is known for his commitment to story and characterization over game play.
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* TheRoleplayer: Carried to an extreme that makes him intolerable!
* TalkingToThemself: Not in the usual way. His elf bard, Raphael Hoolizar, inherited a brownie familiar (and hand puppet) named Hodgy from Brian.
!! Bob Herzog, Senior
Bob's father, occasionally referenced offscreen as an obstacle to Bob's gaming before finally appearing in the comic.
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[[folder:The Black Hands]]
Once the Knights stopped being simple gamer stereotypes and started being actual characters, the KODT writers began to introduce other gamer groups to be able to explore funny gamer situations that just wouldn't happen at the Knights table. The first was the Black Hands.
Another group to gain a lot of focus within the KODT strips to the point where each issue now usually features an ongoing strip with them and they've had their own miniseries. The group consists mostly of preestablished characters with everyone aside from Stevil getting at least a mention prior to the introduction of the Black Hands group. Their main distinctive feature is that they play together because nobody else will have them, so five difficult personalities get together each week and try to tolerate each other long enough to get through a game.
Once the Knights stopped being simple gamer stereotypes and started being actual characters, the KODT writers began to introduce other gamer groups to be able to explore funny gamer situations that just wouldn't happen at the Knights table. The first was the Black Hands.
Another group to gain a lot of focus within the KODT strips to the point where each issue now usually features an ongoing strip with them and they've had their own miniseries. The group consists mostly of preestablished characters with everyone aside from Stevil getting at least a mention prior to the introduction of the Black Hands group. Their main distinctive feature is that they play together because nobody else will have them, so five difficult personalities get together each week and try to tolerate each other long enough to get through a game.
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[[folder:Hard 8]]
The makers of most of the games played in the Muncie community, most notably Hackmaster. Hard 8 is loosely based on Creator/{{TSR}}, and when Hackmaster was first published in real life, all but the first foreword was written as though the Hard 8 characters were the ones writing it. Though regularly featured, the interactions between this set of characters and the Knights
Another group to gain a lot of focus within the KODT strips to the point where each issue now usually features an ongoing strip with them and they've had their own miniseries. The group consists mostly of preestablished characters with everyone aside from Stevil getting at least a mention prior to the introduction of the Black Hands group. Their main distinctive feature is that they play together because nobody else will have them, so five difficult personalities get together each week and try to tolerate each other long enough to get through a game.
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* ChronicBackstabbingDisorder: The Black Hands are constantly betraying each other and team killing.
* EvilCounterpart: They have all the Knights' darker qualities but none of their TrueCompanions status.
* HumiliationConga: Pulled on each other whenever possible. Institutionalized with the "Hubcap of Shame."
* IfYouDieICallYourStuff: Unlike the Knights, rights of inheritance are not respected.
* MedalOfDishonor: Any member who embarrasses the group or gamers in general is required to wear "The Hubcap of Shame". Even Nitro is bound by this practice.
* RagtagBunchOfMisfits: The only reason the Hands game together is no other group will have them.
* WeAreStrugglingTogether: The main challenge of the group is hold back their irritation with each other long enough to do anything useful in the game.
!!Victor "Nitro" Ferguson
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An unorthodox GM known for his edgy and weird gaming experiments. Nitro is a former drill sergeant and brings that mentality to the table. He's twice run a live action dungeon crawl in the steam tunnels beneath the local university and once trapped and imprisoned a group of gamers to run a wargame scenario, getting him banned from sanctioned play. He and Bob still have a bit of bad blood over the oft referenced incident where Bob threw salt in his eyes and hit him with a dinner tray (the man touched his dice.)
* EvilCounterpart: They have all the Knights' darker qualities but none of their TrueCompanions status.
* HumiliationConga: Pulled on each other whenever possible. Institutionalized with the "Hubcap of Shame."
* IfYouDieICallYourStuff: Unlike the Knights, rights of inheritance are not respected.
* MedalOfDishonor: Any member who embarrasses the group or gamers in general is required to wear "The Hubcap of Shame". Even Nitro is bound by this practice.
* RagtagBunchOfMisfits: The only reason the Hands game together is no other group will have them.
* WeAreStrugglingTogether: The main challenge of the group is hold back their irritation with each other long enough to do anything useful in the game.
!!Victor "Nitro" Ferguson
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An unorthodox GM known for his edgy and weird gaming experiments. Nitro is a former drill sergeant and brings that mentality to the table. He's twice run a live action dungeon crawl in the steam tunnels beneath the local university and once trapped and imprisoned a group of gamers to run a wargame scenario, getting him banned from sanctioned play. He and Bob still have a bit of bad blood over the oft referenced incident where Bob threw salt in his eyes and hit him with a dinner tray (the man touched his dice.)
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* ChronicBackstabbingDisorder: The Black Hands are constantly betraying each AuthorAppeal: Not so much in the early days, when the comic strip was appearing in the backs of other publishers' magazines, but in the years since ''Knights of the Dinner Table'' and team killing.
* EvilCounterpart: They[=KenzerCo=] became associated, strips about the pitfalls of ''making'' games have all the Knights' darker qualities but none replaced Hard 8's earlier function of their TrueCompanions status.
* HumiliationConga: Pulled on each other whenever possible. Institutionalized with the "Hubcap of Shame."
* IfYouDieICallYourStuff: Unlike the Knights, rights of inheritance are not respected.
* MedalOfDishonor: Any member who embarrasses the group orintroducing inexplicably bad products and gouging gamers in general for paid-by-the-minute phone support.
* {{Expy}}: Hard 8 itself isrequired to wear "The Hubcap an expy of Shame". Even Nitro is bound by this practice.
* RagtagBunchOfMisfits: The only reason[=TSR=], but the Hands game together is no other group will have them.
* WeAreStrugglingTogether: The main challengegames they produce are also typically expies of real life products Hackmaster (''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons''), World of Hackcraft (''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft''), and Spelljacked (The similarly ill-fated ''TabletopGame/{{Spellfire}}'' CCG) being some of the group is hold back their irritation with each other long enough to do anything useful most common.
* HonestJohnsDealership: As noted above, many of the early Hard 8 storylines showed them cranking out questionable products and using every trick in thegame.
!!Victor "Nitro" Ferguson
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!!Gary Jackson
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An unorthodox GM known The analog for Gary Gygax (with the surname of Steve Jackson). Show to be a gambler with a fly by the seat of his pants approach to running his company and publishing new game products. After his apparent death in a plane crash, he became a sort of larger than life legend, made still larger recently when it was revealed he's not dead. Currently he's using another company to buy out products being held and (he feels) ruined by his wife who has been running the company in trust for his edgy and weird gaming experiments. Nitro is a former drill sergeant and brings that mentality to the table. He's twice run a live action dungeon crawl in the steam tunnels beneath the local university and once trapped and imprisoned a group of gamers to run a wargame scenario, getting him banned from sanctioned play. He and Bob still have a bit of bad blood over the oft referenced incident where Bob threw salt in his eyes and hit him with a dinner tray (the man touched his dice.)son.
* EvilCounterpart: They
* HumiliationConga: Pulled on each other whenever possible. Institutionalized with the "Hubcap of Shame."
* IfYouDieICallYourStuff: Unlike the Knights, rights of inheritance are not respected.
* MedalOfDishonor: Any member who embarrasses the group or
* {{Expy}}: Hard 8 itself is
* RagtagBunchOfMisfits: The only reason
* WeAreStrugglingTogether: The main challenge
* HonestJohnsDealership: As noted above, many of the early Hard 8 storylines showed them cranking out questionable products and using every trick in the
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* AscendedExtra: As with many of the Knights' secondary characters, Nitro was referred to long before he actually appeared in the comic. Nowadays, after the core five and Weird Pete, he's probably the character who appears most.
* BlackAndNerdy: You could be forgiven for not knowing this unless you've spotted Nitro on a cover or in one of the rare colorized strips, but he's black.
* DrillSergeantNasty: At least early on. He's still tough on his group but has softened a bit.
* EarlyInstallmentWeirdness: Nitro's game-mastering style was ''bizarre'' in his first few appearances.
---> '''Nitro:''' A hole opens up in the floor and somebody rises into view. You realize that it's Andy Warhol. He's accompanied by a panda bear wearing a set of Bermuda shorts made out of an old Nazi flag.
** WordOfGod is that those early Nitro strips stem from a real-life encounter with a guy nicknamed 'Nitro' when the author was desperate to get into a D&D game. [[spoiler: It turned out he wasn't desperate enough to put up with THAT.]]
* EstablishingCharacterMoment: When he first enters the comic, even before he enters the ''panel'', [[IncomingHam he immediately sets the tone]]:
--->'''Nitro''': [[Music/TheBeatles I am the walrus! I am the dice man! Goo goo g'joob!]]
* {{Jerkass}}: He is frequently very harsh and abrasive, particularly when he's in DrillSergeantNasty mode, but one especially notable moment is when he gets invited into B.A.'s game as a guest NPC. [[spoiler:He then manipulated Dave into betraying the rest of the party. After a huge battle, everybody in the game, a game that was running for years, was dead and without any chance to come back or continue the story. The entire table was dismayed. Nitro just got up and said "Looks like my work here is through".]]
* JerkassHasAPoint: In-universe, Nitro has a lot more respect and control over his games than BA does his. His harsh style works.
!!Weird Pete Ashton
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A partner with Gary Jackson during the transition of Hackmaster from wargame to rpg, Gary bought him out shortly before Hackmaster went to press and he used the money to open Weird Pete's Game Pit. The Black Hand's game takes place in his back room. Naturally, being a merchant in a struggling industry that is also his primary way of making friends, all his relationships are complicated by the financial matters surrounding the hobby. When behind the screen, he's a grouchy old school Killer GM.
* BlackAndNerdy: You could be forgiven for not knowing this unless you've spotted Nitro on a cover or in one of the rare colorized strips, but he's black.
* DrillSergeantNasty: At least early on. He's still tough on his group but has softened a bit.
* EarlyInstallmentWeirdness: Nitro's game-mastering style was ''bizarre'' in his first few appearances.
---> '''Nitro:''' A hole opens up in the floor and somebody rises into view. You realize that it's Andy Warhol. He's accompanied by a panda bear wearing a set of Bermuda shorts made out of an old Nazi flag.
** WordOfGod is that those early Nitro strips stem from a real-life encounter with a guy nicknamed 'Nitro' when the author was desperate to get into a D&D game. [[spoiler: It turned out he wasn't desperate enough to put up with THAT.]]
* EstablishingCharacterMoment: When he first enters the comic, even before he enters the ''panel'', [[IncomingHam he immediately sets the tone]]:
--->'''Nitro''': [[Music/TheBeatles I am the walrus! I am the dice man! Goo goo g'joob!]]
* {{Jerkass}}: He is frequently very harsh and abrasive, particularly when he's in DrillSergeantNasty mode, but one especially notable moment is when he gets invited into B.A.'s game as a guest NPC. [[spoiler:He then manipulated Dave into betraying the rest of the party. After a huge battle, everybody in the game, a game that was running for years, was dead and without any chance to come back or continue the story. The entire table was dismayed. Nitro just got up and said "Looks like my work here is through".]]
* JerkassHasAPoint: In-universe, Nitro has a lot more respect and control over his games than BA does his. His harsh style works.
!!Weird Pete Ashton
[[quoteright:247:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/weird_pete.jpg]]
A partner with Gary Jackson during the transition of Hackmaster from wargame to rpg, Gary bought him out shortly before Hackmaster went to press and he used the money to open Weird Pete's Game Pit. The Black Hand's game takes place in his back room. Naturally, being a merchant in a struggling industry that is also his primary way of making friends, all his relationships are complicated by the financial matters surrounding the hobby. When behind the screen, he's a grouchy old school Killer GM.
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* AscendedExtra: As with TheAce: Filled this role during the time he spent apparently dead as the Hard 8 staff would often fondly recall Gary's fly by the seat of his pants style of management.
* DeathFakedForYou: The solution to his KilledOffForReal plot.
* HonestJohnsDealership: Much of his attempts to market games are based on squeezing every last dime from the public despite his honest love of gaming.
* JerkWithAHeartOfJerk: Thinks of himself as a brilliant businessman; extremely self-confident; prone to giving his employees "bonuses" by unloading items he can't sell on them and calling them "bonuses".
* NoCelebritiesWereHarmed: What manyof the Knights' secondary characters, Nitro was referred to long before people assumed he was. Jolly actually appeared in says he was based on the comic. Nowadays, after the core five weird idea he had as a teenager that game designers were rich rockstar executives.
* KilledOffForReal: Jolly Blackburn became wary of people assuming Gary was meant to be a parody of RL individuals andWeird Pete, did this. He eventually came to regret it.
* PetTheDog: While undeniably a {{Jerkass}}, he does have moments where he'll display a decent streak. Sure, he's probablythe character who appears most.
* BlackAndNerdy: You could be forgiven for not knowing this unless you've spotted Nitro on a cover or in oneworking some kind of the rare colorized strips, but angle, and quite often he's black.
* DrillSergeantNasty: At least early on. He's still tough onscheming to catch people off-guard so he can screw them over, but he ''does'' have his group but has softened a bit.
* EarlyInstallmentWeirdness: Nitro's game-mastering style was ''bizarre'' in his first few appearances.
---> '''Nitro:''' A hole opens up in the floor and somebody rises into view. You realize that it's Andy Warhol. He's accompanied by a panda bear wearing a set of Bermuda shorts made out of an old Nazi flag.
** WordOfGod is that those early Nitro strips stem from a real-life encounter with a guy nicknamed 'Nitro' when the author was desperate to get into a D&D game. [[spoiler: It turned out he wasn't desperate enough to put up with THAT.]]
* EstablishingCharacterMoment: When he first enters the comic, even before he enters the ''panel'', [[IncomingHam he immediately sets the tone]]:
--->'''Nitro''': [[Music/TheBeatles I am the walrus! I am the dice man! Goo goo g'joob!]]
* {{Jerkass}}: He is frequently very harsh and abrasive, particularly when he's in DrillSergeantNasty mode, but one especially notable moment is when he gets invited into B.A.'s game as a guest NPC. [[spoiler:He then manipulated Dave into betraying the rest of the party. After a huge battle, everybody in the game, a game that was running for years, was dead and without any chance to come back or continue the story. The entire table was dismayed. Nitro just got up and said "Looks like my work here is through".]]
* JerkassHasAPoint: In-universe, Nitro has a lot more respect and control over his games than BA does his. His harsh style works.
!!Weird Pete Ashton
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!![=JoJo=] Zeke
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A partner with Gary Second in command who became the man to run the show on site after Jackson's death. Zeke, like Jackson during the transition of cares passionately about Hackmaster from wargame to rpg, Gary bought him out shortly before Hackmaster went to press and he used the money to open Weird Pete's Game Pit. The Black Hand's game takes place in his back room. Naturally, work he puts into it. After Gary's death, he was shown being a merchant in a struggling industry that is also his primary way of making friends, all his relationships are complicated worn to the core by the financial matters surrounding the hobby. When behind the screen, he's a grouchy old school Killer GM.demands of Heidi Jackson until he finally quit.
* DeathFakedForYou: The solution to his KilledOffForReal plot.
* HonestJohnsDealership: Much of his attempts to market games are based on squeezing every last dime from the public despite his honest love of gaming.
* JerkWithAHeartOfJerk: Thinks of himself as a brilliant businessman; extremely self-confident; prone to giving his employees "bonuses" by unloading items he can't sell on them and calling them "bonuses".
* NoCelebritiesWereHarmed: What many
* KilledOffForReal: Jolly Blackburn became wary of people assuming Gary was meant to be a parody of RL individuals and
* PetTheDog: While undeniably a {{Jerkass}}, he does have moments where he'll display a decent streak. Sure, he's probably
* BlackAndNerdy: You could be forgiven for not knowing this unless you've spotted Nitro on a cover or in one
* DrillSergeantNasty: At least early on. He's still tough on
* EarlyInstallmentWeirdness: Nitro's game-mastering style was ''bizarre'' in his first few appearances.
---> '''Nitro:''' A hole opens up in the floor and somebody rises into view. You realize that it's Andy Warhol. He's accompanied by a panda bear wearing a set of Bermuda shorts made out of an old Nazi flag.
** WordOfGod is that those early Nitro strips stem from a real-life encounter with a guy nicknamed 'Nitro' when the author was desperate to get into a D&D game. [[spoiler: It turned out he wasn't desperate enough to put up with THAT.]]
* EstablishingCharacterMoment: When he first enters the comic, even before he enters the ''panel'', [[IncomingHam he immediately sets the tone]]:
--->'''Nitro''': [[Music/TheBeatles I am the walrus! I am the dice man! Goo goo g'joob!]]
* {{Jerkass}}: He is frequently very harsh and abrasive, particularly when he's in DrillSergeantNasty mode, but one especially notable moment is when he gets invited into B.A.'s game as a guest NPC. [[spoiler:He then manipulated Dave into betraying the rest of the party. After a huge battle, everybody in the game, a game that was running for years, was dead and without any chance to come back or continue the story. The entire table was dismayed. Nitro just got up and said "Looks like my work here is through".]]
* JerkassHasAPoint: In-universe, Nitro has a lot more respect and control over his games than BA does his. His harsh style works.
!!Weird Pete Ashton
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!![=JoJo=] Zeke
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* DrunkWithPower: Any kind of power seems to go to Weird Pete's head. He becomes a petty tyrant when running a campaign (or even just sitting in as a temporary GM on someone else's) - handing out demerits at the drop of a hat for infringing rules he has just made up - and he runs the Gamers Court as a HangingJudge.
* EverythingIsTryingToKillYou: His campaign setting (no doubt inspired by early Gygax material) is so difficult to survive in that nobody has ever made it past third level.
* {{Expy}}: Is one for Dave Arneson with a lot of the actual Gary Gygax (more than Gary Jackson at least). He even made the equivalent of the ''Tomb of Horrors.''
* HonestJohnsDealership: Often fast-talks customers (usually B.A.) into buying whatever he's trying to unload at the moment, regardless of its quality or usefulness.
* JudicialWig: Pete wears whenever he is presiding as judge at Gamer Court. It is not known if judges in other Gamer Courts also do this, or if this is just another example of Pete's fondness for theatrics and formal trappings.
* KillerGM: Moreso than the others. And he's always eager to get behind the screen again when the trauma of the previous campaign has healed.
---> '''Nitro:''' "Actually, I was just thinking he's mellowed. [[OffscreenMomentOfAwesome In the old days, he didn't give warnings.]]"
* StopHavingFunGuys: He's an old school gamer who is vocal in his belief that newer games suck. In one strip, a newbie gamer at the Games Pit outlines his reasons for not liking Hackmaster, prompting Pete to launch into a lecture about what's wrong with the newbie's attitude, not noticing that his would-be customer has left partway through the rant.
!!Steven "Stevil" Van Hostle
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Also known as "Evil Stevil" and "Bitter Stevil." Stevil is a prickly individual who unleashes pent up office frustrations at the game table. He has to commute from Indianapolis to gaming nights, leading to his frequent complaint "I can't believe I drove forty frickin' miles for THIS!" Newt has rubbed him the wrong way from day one, leading to an escalating vengeance war between them.
* EverythingIsTryingToKillYou: His campaign setting (no doubt inspired by early Gygax material) is so difficult to survive in that nobody has ever made it past third level.
* {{Expy}}: Is one for Dave Arneson with a lot of the actual Gary Gygax (more than Gary Jackson at least). He even made the equivalent of the ''Tomb of Horrors.''
* HonestJohnsDealership: Often fast-talks customers (usually B.A.) into buying whatever he's trying to unload at the moment, regardless of its quality or usefulness.
* JudicialWig: Pete wears whenever he is presiding as judge at Gamer Court. It is not known if judges in other Gamer Courts also do this, or if this is just another example of Pete's fondness for theatrics and formal trappings.
* KillerGM: Moreso than the others. And he's always eager to get behind the screen again when the trauma of the previous campaign has healed.
---> '''Nitro:''' "Actually, I was just thinking he's mellowed. [[OffscreenMomentOfAwesome In the old days, he didn't give warnings.]]"
* StopHavingFunGuys: He's an old school gamer who is vocal in his belief that newer games suck. In one strip, a newbie gamer at the Games Pit outlines his reasons for not liking Hackmaster, prompting Pete to launch into a lecture about what's wrong with the newbie's attitude, not noticing that his would-be customer has left partway through the rant.
!!Steven "Stevil" Van Hostle
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Also known as "Evil Stevil" and "Bitter Stevil." Stevil is a prickly individual who unleashes pent up office frustrations at the game table. He has to commute from Indianapolis to gaming nights, leading to his frequent complaint "I can't believe I drove forty frickin' miles for THIS!" Newt has rubbed him the wrong way from day one, leading to an escalating vengeance war between them.
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* DrunkWithPower: Any kind of power seems to go to Weird Pete's head. He becomes a petty tyrant when running a campaign (or even just sitting TheDragon: Oddly, whether Gary or Heidi is in as a temporary GM on someone else's) - handing out demerits at the drop of a hat for infringing rules he has just made up - and he runs the Gamers Court as a HangingJudge.
* EverythingIsTryingToKillYou: His campaign setting (no doubt inspired by early Gygax material) is so difficult to survive in that nobody has ever made it past third level.
* {{Expy}}: Is one for Dave Arneson with a lotcharge of the actual Gary Gygax (more than Gary Jackson at least). He even made company, [=JoJo=] gravitates to the equivalent position of second-in-command.
* HeroOfAnotherStory: [=JoJo=] is the''Tomb of Horrors.''
* HonestJohnsDealership: Often fast-talks customers (usually B.A.) into buying whatever he's trying to unload at the moment, regardless of its quality or usefulness.
* JudicialWig: Pete wears whenever he is presiding as judge at Gamer Court. It is not known if judges in other Gamer Courts also do this, or if this is just another example of Pete's fondness for theatrics and formal trappings.
* KillerGM: Moreso than the others. And he's always eager to get behind the screen again when the trauma of the previous campaign has healed.
---> '''Nitro:''' "Actually, I was just thinking he's mellowed. [[OffscreenMomentOfAwesome In the old days, he didn't give warnings.]]"
* StopHavingFunGuys: He's an old school gameronly Hard8 character who is vocal shows up regularly in his belief that newer games suck. In one strip, a newbie gamer at the Games Pit outlines his reasons for not liking Hackmaster, prompting Pete Muncie to launch into a lecture about what's wrong interact with the newbie's attitude, not noticing that regular cast. This is because one of his would-be customer has left partway through many duties is putting an end to crises... and the rant.
!!Steven "Stevil" Van Hostle
gamers in Muncie tend to create crises. They're his biggest headache.
** Except possibly [[NoodleIncident the rogue gamer chapters out in Idaho.]]
!!"Waco" Bob Forsey
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Also known as "Evil Stevil" and "Bitter Stevil." Stevil is a prickly individual who unleashes pent up office frustrations at The old man of the group. During Gary's tenure as head of the company, Bob got along largely by agreeing with everything Gary said. This may have been the reason he was the first to get fired when Heidi took over. Tuley quietly organized a campaign where the other employees took a pay cut to get him re-hired.
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* YesMan: As noted, all he ever did at Hard 8 staff meetings was agree with Gary Jackson's pronouncements. According to the [[WordOfGod cast list]], his playtest reports described every newly developed gametable. He has as "the next TabletopGame/HackMaster".
!!Pete "Skip" Skipowski
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A college buddy of Gary Jackson's who became a game designer for Hard 8 when the company was formed.
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* SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute: At one point when [=JoJo=] was unavailable, Skip was sent tocommute from Indianapolis to gaming nights, leading to deal with the [[RunningGag latest "problem in Muncie".]]
!!Edmund Finley
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A younger game designer for the company, hisfrequent complaint "I can't believe I drove forty frickin' miles pet project was a game called "Abe, Babes and Roller Blades," described as a "sexy, zany, time-travelling romp through history and fashion."
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!!Tuley Priswinkle
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For a long time, Tuley was the company's unpaid customer service representative, under the impression that he was playtesting a virtual corporation computer game. He eventually became a regular employee and even sat in the boardroom forTHIS!" Newt has rubbed him the wrong way from day one, leading to an escalating vengeance war between them. a while during Heidi's tenure.
* EverythingIsTryingToKillYou: His campaign setting (no doubt inspired by early Gygax material) is so difficult to survive in that nobody has ever made it past third level.
* {{Expy}}: Is one for Dave Arneson with a lot
* HeroOfAnotherStory: [=JoJo=] is the
* HonestJohnsDealership: Often fast-talks customers (usually B.A.) into buying whatever he's trying to unload at the moment, regardless of its quality or usefulness.
* JudicialWig: Pete wears whenever he is presiding as judge at Gamer Court. It is not known if judges in other Gamer Courts also do this, or if this is just another example of Pete's fondness for theatrics and formal trappings.
* KillerGM: Moreso than the others. And he's always eager to get behind the screen again when the trauma of the previous campaign has healed.
---> '''Nitro:''' "Actually, I was just thinking he's mellowed. [[OffscreenMomentOfAwesome In the old days, he didn't give warnings.]]"
* StopHavingFunGuys: He's an old school gamer
!!Steven "Stevil" Van Hostle
** Except possibly [[NoodleIncident the rogue gamer chapters out in Idaho.]]
!!"Waco" Bob Forsey
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* YesMan: As noted, all he ever did at Hard 8 staff meetings was agree with Gary Jackson's pronouncements. According to the [[WordOfGod cast list]], his playtest reports described every newly developed game
!!Pete "Skip" Skipowski
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A college buddy of Gary Jackson's who became a game designer for Hard 8 when the company was formed.
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* SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute: At one point when [=JoJo=] was unavailable, Skip was sent to
!!Edmund Finley
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A younger game designer for the company, his
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!!Tuley Priswinkle
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* CatchPhrase: "I can't believe I drove forty fricking miles for '''this!"'''
* TheChessmaster: The "loan arrangement" he made with Newt (which involved a contract with fine print and a gawd oath) to make Newt his permanent slave. He eventually gets OutGambitted though.
* TheComicallySerious: Even in universe. The whole reason Nitro decides to let Newt stay is because he likes how Newt treats Stevil. But the crowning example comes during their Cattlepunk game when Stevil is forced to wear a giant sombrero. He is not happy about this.
* DeadpanSnarker: And a vicious one at that.
* EvilCounterpart: Stevil is basically Bob if you strip away Bob's nice traits and throw in a dash of Brian's scheming.
* JerkWithAHeartOfJerk: Stevil may seem like a total JerkAss, but as you get to know him better, you realize that deep, deep down, he really is a total JerkAss.
* KickTheDog: Drew complaints of this early on as he tended to pick on Newt a lot with little provocation, but Newt more than makes up for it by arranging bail for everyone BUT Stevil later on.
--> '''Stevil:''' That big guy in holding cell three made me dance for ''twenty hours straight!''
* OnlySaneMan: Oddly Stevil seems to fill this role for the Black Hands, especially when it comes to dealing with situations outside of gaming. His reaction to listening a bunch of gamers planning to invest in gold (in the real world) is priceless.
* PetTheDog: In his kinder moments, Stevil seems to regard Nitro or Pete (whichever of them is not [=GMing=]) as a partner against the real enemies; Newt and the GM.
* PunnyName: His last name can be read as a mutation of "hostile." And Stevil certainly is.
* TheSmartGuy: He may be an unrepentant {{Jerkass}}, but there's no denying his intelligence. He's come up with some pretty devious plans over the years, at one point point even [[spoiler:beating the Temple of Horrendous Doom!]]
!!Gordo Sheckberry
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A former chemist on permanent disability after getting in an accident at work. Between workers' comp and disability, Gordo now has all the time and money he needs to dedicate himself to gaming. Gordo is obnoxious in a very different way than the rest of the Black Hands: he's a dedicated deep-immersion role player with a vast fund of long, rambling character stories; a "frightening" mastery of fairy lore; and a complete inability to sense the comfort zones of his fellow gamers.
* TheChessmaster: The "loan arrangement" he made with Newt (which involved a contract with fine print and a gawd oath) to make Newt his permanent slave. He eventually gets OutGambitted though.
* TheComicallySerious: Even in universe. The whole reason Nitro decides to let Newt stay is because he likes how Newt treats Stevil. But the crowning example comes during their Cattlepunk game when Stevil is forced to wear a giant sombrero. He is not happy about this.
* DeadpanSnarker: And a vicious one at that.
* EvilCounterpart: Stevil is basically Bob if you strip away Bob's nice traits and throw in a dash of Brian's scheming.
* JerkWithAHeartOfJerk: Stevil may seem like a total JerkAss, but as you get to know him better, you realize that deep, deep down, he really is a total JerkAss.
* KickTheDog: Drew complaints of this early on as he tended to pick on Newt a lot with little provocation, but Newt more than makes up for it by arranging bail for everyone BUT Stevil later on.
--> '''Stevil:''' That big guy in holding cell three made me dance for ''twenty hours straight!''
* OnlySaneMan: Oddly Stevil seems to fill this role for the Black Hands, especially when it comes to dealing with situations outside of gaming. His reaction to listening a bunch of gamers planning to invest in gold (in the real world) is priceless.
* PetTheDog: In his kinder moments, Stevil seems to regard Nitro or Pete (whichever of them is not [=GMing=]) as a partner against the real enemies; Newt and the GM.
* PunnyName: His last name can be read as a mutation of "hostile." And Stevil certainly is.
* TheSmartGuy: He may be an unrepentant {{Jerkass}}, but there's no denying his intelligence. He's come up with some pretty devious plans over the years, at one point point even [[spoiler:beating the Temple of Horrendous Doom!]]
!!Gordo Sheckberry
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A former chemist on permanent disability after getting in an accident at work. Between workers' comp and disability, Gordo now has all the time and money he needs to dedicate himself to gaming. Gordo is obnoxious in a very different way than the rest of the Black Hands: he's a dedicated deep-immersion role player with a vast fund of long, rambling character stories; a "frightening" mastery of fairy lore; and a complete inability to sense the comfort zones of his fellow gamers.
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* CatchPhrase: "I can't believe I drove forty fricking miles for '''this!"'''
* TheChessmaster: The "loan arrangement" he made with Newt (which involved a contract with fine printAscendedFanboy: Started working at the company's phoneline and a gawd oath) to make Newt his permanent slave. eventually became part of the board.
* BecomingTheMask: He eventuallygets OutGambitted though.
* TheComicallySerious: Even in universe. The whole reason Nitro decidesfigured out the ruse but continued to let Newt stay is "play" the "game" because it was fun. Shortly after that, he likes how Newt treats Stevil. But the crowning example comes during their Cattlepunk game when Stevil is forced to wear a giant sombrero. He is not happy about this.
* DeadpanSnarker: And a vicious one at that.
* EvilCounterpart: Stevil is basically Bob if you strip away Bob's nice traits and throw in a dash of Brian's scheming.
* JerkWithAHeartOfJerk: Stevil may seem like a total JerkAss, but as you get to know him better, you realize that deep, deep down, he really is a total JerkAss.
* KickTheDog: Drew complaints of this early on as he tended to pick on Newt a lot with little provocation, but Newt more than makes up for it by arranging bail for everyone BUT Stevil later on.
--> '''Stevil:''' That big guy in holding cell three made me dance for ''twenty hours straight!''
* OnlySaneMan: Oddly Stevil seems to fill this role for the Black Hands, especially when it comes to dealing with situations outside of gaming. His reaction to listening a bunch of gamers planning to invest in gold (in the real world) is priceless.
* PetTheDog: In his kinder moments, Stevil seems to regard Nitro or Pete (whichever of them is not [=GMing=]) as a partner against the real enemies; Newt and the GM.
* PunnyName: His last name can be read as a mutation of "hostile." And Stevil certainly is.
* TheSmartGuy: He may bebecame an unrepentant {{Jerkass}}, but there's no denying his intelligence. He's come up with some pretty devious plans over the years, at one point point even [[spoiler:beating the Temple of Horrendous Doom!]]
!!Gordo Sheckberry
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!!Timmy Jackson
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A former chemist on permanent disability after gettingorg/pmwiki/pub/images/timmy_9.jpg]]
The son and heir of Gary Jackson. Gary used to let Timmy create material for the game in anaccident at work. Between workers' comp egregious example of nepotism (the kid was eight, and disability, Gordo now has all the time it showed in his work). After Gary's death, Heidi sent him off to military school, where he discovered football and money he needs to dedicate himself to gaming. Gordo is obnoxious in a very different way than the rest of the Black Hands: he's a dedicated deep-immersion role player with a vast fund of long, rambling character stories; a "frightening" mastery of fairy lore; girls and a complete inability to sense the comfort zones of his fellow gamers.decided roleplaying games were uncool.
* TheChessmaster: The "loan arrangement" he made with Newt (which involved a contract with fine print
* BecomingTheMask: He eventually
* TheComicallySerious: Even in universe. The whole reason Nitro decides
* DeadpanSnarker: And a vicious one at that.
* EvilCounterpart: Stevil is basically Bob if you strip away Bob's nice traits and throw in a dash of Brian's scheming.
* JerkWithAHeartOfJerk: Stevil may seem like a total JerkAss, but as you get to know him better, you realize that deep, deep down, he really is a total JerkAss.
* KickTheDog: Drew complaints of this early on as he tended to pick on Newt a lot with little provocation, but Newt more than makes up for it by arranging bail for everyone BUT Stevil later on.
--> '''Stevil:''' That big guy in holding cell three made me dance for ''twenty hours straight!''
* OnlySaneMan: Oddly Stevil seems to fill this role for the Black Hands, especially when it comes to dealing with situations outside of gaming. His reaction to listening a bunch of gamers planning to invest in gold (in the real world) is priceless.
* PetTheDog: In his kinder moments, Stevil seems to regard Nitro or Pete (whichever of them is not [=GMing=]) as a partner against the real enemies; Newt and the GM.
* PunnyName: His last name can be read as a mutation of "hostile." And Stevil certainly is.
* TheSmartGuy: He may be
!!Gordo Sheckberry
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!!Timmy Jackson
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The son and heir of Gary Jackson. Gary used to let Timmy create material for the game in an
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* CampStraight: His orientation is pretty ambiguous, though in one strip he does discuss his 'dream woman' with some of the other Black Hands.
* CrossPlayer: The trope that embodied Gordo till CharacterDevelopment ensued. His introduction was as an off panel reference to what happens to players that crossplay (as the Knights were about to have to.)
* NiceGuy: He is one of the most genuinely nice characters in the entire comic. Even being constantly picked on by the other players makes him more upset than angry.
* TheRoleplayer: Gordo embodies some of the more negative aspects of the trope: he has a long history of creating ineffective characters and placing their welfare ahead of the group's.
!!Newt Forager
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Probably the youngest of the series regular characters. Newt still lives at home and is in college. He was introduced as a temporary replacement for Bob, where he made his mark by killing the other players' characters in their sleep and looting their bodies to stock up for another campaign he really wanted to play in. Apparently, this type of behavior continued until the first Black Hands strip where he showed up desperate to finally be accepted into a group (the Black Hands being his last chance). Nitro decided to keep him because he liked how Newt rattled Stevil.
* CrossPlayer: The trope that embodied Gordo till CharacterDevelopment ensued. His introduction was as an off panel reference to what happens to players that crossplay (as the Knights were about to have to.)
* NiceGuy: He is one of the most genuinely nice characters in the entire comic. Even being constantly picked on by the other players makes him more upset than angry.
* TheRoleplayer: Gordo embodies some of the more negative aspects of the trope: he has a long history of creating ineffective characters and placing their welfare ahead of the group's.
!!Newt Forager
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Probably the youngest of the series regular characters. Newt still lives at home and is in college. He was introduced as a temporary replacement for Bob, where he made his mark by killing the other players' characters in their sleep and looting their bodies to stock up for another campaign he really wanted to play in. Apparently, this type of behavior continued until the first Black Hands strip where he showed up desperate to finally be accepted into a group (the Black Hands being his last chance). Nitro decided to keep him because he liked how Newt rattled Stevil.
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* CampStraight: His orientation is pretty ambiguous, though in one strip he does discuss his 'dream woman' with some [[invoked]]GodModeSue: InUniverse: When [=GMing=] the final round of the other Black Hands.
* CrossPlayer: The trope that embodied Gordo till CharacterDevelopment ensued. His introduction was as an off panel referencegrudge match arc, he arbitrarily threw monsters and damage at the players. They managed to what happens beat him by using the same tactic right back at him, causing him to break down and leave the table crying, giving the players that crossplay (as the Knights a default win.
* {{Nepotism}}: Gary Jackson let him write Hard 8 supplements. The results were aboutto have to.)
* NiceGuy: He is one ofwhat you would expect from an eight-year-old who doesn't know what he's doing.
!!Heidi Jackson
Gary's ex-wife and themost genuinely nice characters runner of a successful paperback publishing company. Gary left Hard 8 to his son Timmy but the company is being held in trust till he turns 18 leaving Heidi to run the company as the trustee. She clearly has an axe to grind with her deceased ex but also is (presumably) trying to protect her son's legacy and make it profitable. Problem is, Hard 8 had always been a labor of love whereas Heidi expects the company to perform like hers does. This is pretty clearly a nod to Lorraine Williams (though not a direct parody) who was part of a business deal that took [=DnD=] from Creator/GaryGygax and played a role in the entire comic. Even being constantly picked on by failure of Creator/{{TSR}}. She also released a new edition of Hackmaster, the other players makes him more upset than angry.
* TheRoleplayer: Gordo embodies some of the more negative aspects of the trope: he has a long history of creating ineffective charactersonly details for which seemed to match up with 4th edition Dungeons and placing their welfare ahead of the group's.
!!Newt Forager
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Probably the youngest of the series regular characters. Newt still lives at home and is in college. He was introduced as a temporary replacement for Bob, where he made his mark by killing the other players' characters in their sleep and looting their bodies to stock up for another campaign he really wanted to play in. Apparently, this type of behavior continued until the first Black Hands strip where he showed up desperate to finally be accepted into a group (the Black Hands being his last chance). Nitro decided to keep him because he liked how Newt rattled Stevil.Dragons from real life.
* CrossPlayer: The trope that embodied Gordo till CharacterDevelopment ensued. His introduction was as an off panel reference
* {{Nepotism}}: Gary Jackson let him write Hard 8 supplements. The results were about
* NiceGuy: He is one of
!!Heidi Jackson
Gary's ex-wife and the
* TheRoleplayer: Gordo embodies some of the more negative aspects of the trope: he has a long history of creating ineffective characters
!!Newt Forager
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Probably the youngest of the series regular characters. Newt still lives at home and is in college. He was introduced as a temporary replacement for Bob, where he made his mark by killing the other players' characters in their sleep and looting their bodies to stock up for another campaign he really wanted to play in. Apparently, this type of behavior continued until the first Black Hands strip where he showed up desperate to finally be accepted into a group (the Black Hands being his last chance). Nitro decided to keep him because he liked how Newt rattled Stevil.
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* {{Angst}}: He is in love with this trope as applied to his characters. Just one of the many things Stevil hates about him.
--> '''Stevil:''' ''(as Newt is about to introduce his latest character):'' Ooh, let me guess. Does he haunt the night? Is Death his only companion? Does he crave vengeance?
* ChronicBackstabbingDisorder: Even more so than the rest of the Black Hands.
* DarkerAndEdgier: The other trope he loves to use with his characters.
* InTheHood: Newt's characters invariably dress this way as part of his attempt to imbue them with a ShroudedInMyth mystique. No one else is ever impressed.
* TheMunchkin: Moreso than any other player, yet strangely he's also TheRoleplayer. He'll take any opportunity to kill and steal from his teammates, though he's settled down some as he knows this table is his last chance at a regular campaign.
* NinjaLooter: Compulsively. He was first introduced as one of these. Nitro has him on a leash but he tugs at it constantly.
* ProfessionalButtKisser: Frequently tries to suck up to Nitro with superficial praise of his [=GMing=] (but doesn't let up on the annoying munchkin behaviors that make Nitro's job harder). Nitro isn't impressed.
--> '''Stevil:''' ''(as Newt is about to introduce his latest character):'' Ooh, let me guess. Does he haunt the night? Is Death his only companion? Does he crave vengeance?
* ChronicBackstabbingDisorder: Even more so than the rest of the Black Hands.
* DarkerAndEdgier: The other trope he loves to use with his characters.
* InTheHood: Newt's characters invariably dress this way as part of his attempt to imbue them with a ShroudedInMyth mystique. No one else is ever impressed.
* TheMunchkin: Moreso than any other player, yet strangely he's also TheRoleplayer. He'll take any opportunity to kill and steal from his teammates, though he's settled down some as he knows this table is his last chance at a regular campaign.
* NinjaLooter: Compulsively. He was first introduced as one of these. Nitro has him on a leash but he tugs at it constantly.
* ProfessionalButtKisser: Frequently tries to suck up to Nitro with superficial praise of his [=GMing=] (but doesn't let up on the annoying munchkin behaviors that make Nitro's job harder). Nitro isn't impressed.
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* {{Angst}}: He is BadBoss: Not incompetent, she was simply mean to the Hard 8 staff, constantly cutting their budget and involving herself overly in love with this trope as applied to his characters. Just one aspects of the many things Stevil hates about him.
--> '''Stevil:''' ''(as Newt is aboutprocess she didn't really understand.
* DragonLady: Referred tointroduce his latest character):'' Ooh, let me guess. Does he haunt the night? Is Death his only companion? Does he crave vengeance?
* ChronicBackstabbingDisorder: Even more so than the rest of the Black Hands.
* DarkerAndEdgier: The other trope he loves to use with his characters.
* InTheHood: Newt's characters invariably dress this wayas part of his attempt to imbue them with a ShroudedInMyth mystique. No one else is ever impressed.
* TheMunchkin: Moreso than any other player, yet strangely he's also TheRoleplayer. He'll take any opportunity to kill and steal from his teammates,such, though he's settled down she's not asian and only metaphorically fits the type.
* [[invoked]] ExecutiveMeddling: After finally playing a session of Hackmaster, she decided lots of changes needed to be made, which basically ruined the game. Based on the protests, the game has someas he knows this table is his last chance at a regular campaign.
* NinjaLooter: Compulsively. He was first introduced as one of these. Nitro has him on a leash but he tugs at it constantly.
* ProfessionalButtKisser: Frequently tries to suck up to Nitro withsuperficial praise of his [=GMing=] (but doesn't let up on resemblance to the annoying munchkin behaviors that make Nitro's job harder). Nitro isn't impressed.
initial release of fourth edition ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons''. WordOfGod has said it wasn't a conscious decision but not a wrong take either.
* TyrantTakesTheHelm: How the Hard 8 staff view her despite how badly Gary mismanaged the company. They are proven right since her products are terrible.
--> '''Stevil:''' ''(as Newt is about
* DragonLady: Referred to
* ChronicBackstabbingDisorder: Even more so than the rest of the Black Hands.
* DarkerAndEdgier: The other trope he loves to use with his characters.
* InTheHood: Newt's characters invariably dress this way
* TheMunchkin: Moreso than any other player, yet strangely he's also TheRoleplayer. He'll take any opportunity to kill and steal from his teammates,
* [[invoked]] ExecutiveMeddling: After finally playing a session of Hackmaster, she decided lots of changes needed to be made, which basically ruined the game. Based on the protests, the game has some
* NinjaLooter: Compulsively. He was first introduced as one of these. Nitro has him on a leash but he tugs at it constantly.
* ProfessionalButtKisser: Frequently tries to suck up to Nitro with
* TyrantTakesTheHelm: How the Hard 8 staff view her despite how badly Gary mismanaged the company. They are proven right since her products are terrible.
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The makers of most of the games played in the Muncie community, most notably Hackmaster. Hard 8 is loosely based on Creator/{{TSR}}, and when Hackmaster was first published in real life, all but the first foreword was written as though the Hard 8 characters were the ones writing it. Though regularly featured, the interactions between this set of characters and the Knights are infrequent and almost always indirect.
The makers of most of the games played in the Muncie community, most notably Hackmaster. Hard 8 is loosely based on Creator/{{TSR}}, and when Hackmaster was first published in real life, all but the first foreword was written as though the Hard 8 characters were the ones writing it. Though regularly featured, the interactions between this set of characters and the Knights are infrequent and almost always indirect.
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* AuthorAppeal: Not so much in the early days, when the comic strip was appearing in the backs of other publishers' magazines, but in the years since ''Knights of the Dinner Table'' and [=KenzerCo=] became associated, strips about the pitfalls of ''making'' games have replaced Hard 8's earlier function of introducing inexplicably bad products and gouging gamers for paid-by-the-minute phone support.
* {{Expy}}: Hard 8 itself is an expy of [=TSR=], but the games they produce are also typically expies of real life products Hackmaster (''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons''), World of Hackcraft (''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft''), and Spelljacked (The similarly ill-fated ''TabletopGame/{{Spellfire}}'' CCG) being some of the most common.
* HonestJohnsDealership: As noted above, many of the early Hard 8 storylines showed them cranking out questionable products and using every trick in the book to squeeze money out of gamers and game store owners.
!!Gary Jackson
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The analog for Gary Gygax (with the surname of Steve Jackson). Show to be a gambler with a fly by the seat of his pants approach to running his company and publishing new game products. After his apparent death in a plane crash, he became a sort of larger than life legend, made still larger recently when it was revealed he's not dead. Currently he's using another company to buy out products being held and (he feels) ruined by his wife who has been running the company in trust for his son.
* {{Expy}}: Hard 8 itself is an expy of [=TSR=], but the games they produce are also typically expies of real life products Hackmaster (''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons''), World of Hackcraft (''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft''), and Spelljacked (The similarly ill-fated ''TabletopGame/{{Spellfire}}'' CCG) being some of the most common.
* HonestJohnsDealership: As noted above, many of the early Hard 8 storylines showed them cranking out questionable products and using every trick in the book to squeeze money out of gamers and game store owners.
!!Gary Jackson
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The analog for Gary Gygax (with the surname of Steve Jackson). Show to be a gambler with a fly by the seat of his pants approach to running his company and publishing new game products. After his apparent death in a plane crash, he became a sort of larger than life legend, made still larger recently when it was revealed he's not dead. Currently he's using another company to buy out products being held and (he feels) ruined by his wife who has been running the company in trust for his son.
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* AuthorAppeal: Not so much in GoodCounterpart: Unlike the early days, when Black Hands who are worse than the comic strip was appearing in Knights, the backs of other publishers' magazines, but in the years since ''Knights of the Dinner Table'' Patty's Perps are optimistic and [=KenzerCo=] became associated, strips about the pitfalls of ''making'' games loving.
* RagtagBunchOfMisfits: They havereplaced Hard 8's earlier function of introducing inexplicably bad products and gouging gamers for paid-by-the-minute phone support.
* {{Expy}}: Hard 8 itself is an expy of [=TSR=],nothing in common but the games they produce are also typically expies of real life products Hackmaster (''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons''), World of Hackcraft (''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft''), and Spelljacked (The similarly ill-fated ''TabletopGame/{{Spellfire}}'' CCG) being some of the most common.
* HonestJohnsDealership: As noted above, many of the early Hard 8 storylines showed them cranking out questionable products and using every trick in the book to squeeze money out of gamers and game store owners.
!!Gary Jackson
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!!Patty Gauzweiler
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Theanalog Gamemaster. Patty is a school teacher who hosts games in her trailer and tends to take in lost souls or anyone who looks like they need some mothering. This, perhaps, explains why she was shown in her earliest appearances relentlessly pursuing [[ManChild Dave]] to resume the relationship they once had. Patty is also the Gamemaster for Gary Gygax (with the surname local but seldom shown Ladies of Steve Jackson). Show to be Hack group consisting of most of the regular female characters. Though she has a gambler basically good heart, Patty is also a master of the evil situation, once manipulating her group's entire party into jumping into a lava pit just so she could win a bet with a fly by the seat of his pants approach to running his company and publishing new game products. After his apparent death other Gamemasters in a plane crash, he became a sort of larger than life legend, made still larger recently when it was revealed he's not dead. Currently he's using another company to buy out products being held and (he feels) ruined by his wife who has been running the company in trust for his son.town.
* RagtagBunchOfMisfits: They have
* {{Expy}}: Hard 8 itself is an expy of [=TSR=],
* HonestJohnsDealership: As noted above, many of the early Hard 8 storylines showed them cranking out questionable products and using every trick in the book to squeeze money out of gamers and game store owners.
!!Gary Jackson
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!!Patty Gauzweiler
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* TheAce: Filled this role during the time he spent apparently dead as the Hard 8 staff would often fondly recall Gary's fly by the seat of his pants style of management.
* DeathFakedForYou: The solution to his KilledOffForReal plot.
* HonestJohnsDealership: Much of his attempts to market games are based on squeezing every last dime from the public despite his honest love of gaming.
* JerkWithAHeartOfJerk: Thinks of himself as a brilliant businessman; extremely self-confident; prone to giving his employees "bonuses" by unloading items he can't sell on them and calling them "bonuses".
* NoCelebritiesWereHarmed: What many people assumed he was. Jolly actually says he was based on the weird idea he had as a teenager that game designers were rich rockstar executives.
* KilledOffForReal: Jolly Blackburn became wary of people assuming Gary was meant to be a parody of RL individuals and did this. He eventually came to regret it.
* PetTheDog: While undeniably a {{Jerkass}}, he does have moments where he'll display a decent streak. Sure, he's probably working some kind of angle, and quite often he's scheming to catch people off-guard so he can screw them over, but he ''does'' have his moments.
!![=JoJo=] Zeke
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Second in command who became the man to run the show on site after Jackson's death. Zeke, like Jackson cares passionately about Hackmaster and the work he puts into it. After Gary's death, he was shown being worn to the core by the demands of Heidi Jackson until he finally quit.
* DeathFakedForYou: The solution to his KilledOffForReal plot.
* HonestJohnsDealership: Much of his attempts to market games are based on squeezing every last dime from the public despite his honest love of gaming.
* JerkWithAHeartOfJerk: Thinks of himself as a brilliant businessman; extremely self-confident; prone to giving his employees "bonuses" by unloading items he can't sell on them and calling them "bonuses".
* NoCelebritiesWereHarmed: What many people assumed he was. Jolly actually says he was based on the weird idea he had as a teenager that game designers were rich rockstar executives.
* KilledOffForReal: Jolly Blackburn became wary of people assuming Gary was meant to be a parody of RL individuals and did this. He eventually came to regret it.
* PetTheDog: While undeniably a {{Jerkass}}, he does have moments where he'll display a decent streak. Sure, he's probably working some kind of angle, and quite often he's scheming to catch people off-guard so he can screw them over, but he ''does'' have his moments.
!![=JoJo=] Zeke
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Second in command who became the man to run the show on site after Jackson's death. Zeke, like Jackson cares passionately about Hackmaster and the work he puts into it. After Gary's death, he was shown being worn to the core by the demands of Heidi Jackson until he finally quit.
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* TheAce: Filled this role during EightiesHair: Has a particularly lush and large do.
* FriendToAllChildren: She seems to adore and be adored by all of Muncie’s kids.
* HeroesWantRedheads: BA certainly does.
* InformedAttractiveness: She's supposed to be quite attractive, but drawing attractive women isn't really Jolly's strong point. Her appearance is kind of an artifact; later 'pretty girl' characters are drawn more attractively, but changing Patty's model might make thetime he spent apparently dead as the Hard 8 staff would often fondly recall Gary's fly by the seat of his pants style of management.
character unrecognizable.
*DeathFakedForYou: The solution to his KilledOffForReal plot.
* HonestJohnsDealership: Much of his attempts to market games are based on squeezing every last dime from the public despite his honest love of gaming.
* JerkWithAHeartOfJerk: Thinks of himself as a brilliant businessman; extremely self-confident; prone to giving his employees "bonuses" by unloading items he can't sell on them and calling them "bonuses".
* NoCelebritiesWereHarmed: What many people assumed he was. JollyMisplacedKindergartenTeacher: Patty actually says he was based on ''is'' a kindergarten teacher. However, she has difficulties turning the weird idea he had as a teenager that game designers were rich rockstar executives.
* KilledOffForReal: Jolly Blackburn became wary of people assuming Gary was meant to be a parody of RL individualsattitude off and did this. He eventually came ends up treating her gaming group like a bunch of preschoolers, including a "Time Out Corner" with "5 points to regret it.
* PetTheDog: While undeniably a {{Jerkass}}, he does have moments where he'll display a decent streak. Sure, he's probably workingponder".
** Given the way somekind of angle, and quite often he's scheming to catch people off-guard so he can screw gamers act in this comic, treating them over, like preschoolers might be giving them too much credit.
* TeamMom: All up and down the line, she cares for her group very much buthe ''does'' have his moments.
!![=JoJo=] Zeke
also disciplines them like her students.
!!Chad Aguilar
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Second in command who becameorg/pmwiki/pub/images/chad_a.jpg]]
A long time member of theman group. Though Chad fits in socially as a college student, he started gaming in middle school where his munchkin tendencies kept him away from other gaming tables leading Patty to run take him in. Today, he's more the show on site after Jackson's death. Zeke, like Jackson cares passionately about Hackmaster and the work he puts into it. After Gary's death, he was shown being worn team spitfire, easily irritated but a bit more mature as a player. Recently, Chad has been bringing his pacifist fiancee Reese to the core table; she's more than a little disturbed by all the demands of Heidi Jackson until he finally quit.violence in these games.
* FriendToAllChildren: She seems to adore and be adored by all of Muncie’s kids.
* HeroesWantRedheads: BA certainly does.
* InformedAttractiveness: She's supposed to be quite attractive, but drawing attractive women isn't really Jolly's strong point. Her appearance is kind of an artifact; later 'pretty girl' characters are drawn more attractively, but changing Patty's model might make the
*
* HonestJohnsDealership: Much of his attempts to market games are based on squeezing every last dime from the public despite his honest love of gaming.
* JerkWithAHeartOfJerk: Thinks of himself as a brilliant businessman; extremely self-confident; prone to giving his employees "bonuses" by unloading items he can't sell on them and calling them "bonuses".
* NoCelebritiesWereHarmed: What many people assumed he was. Jolly
* KilledOffForReal: Jolly Blackburn became wary of people assuming Gary was meant to be a parody of RL individuals
* PetTheDog: While undeniably a {{Jerkass}}, he does have moments where he'll display a decent streak. Sure, he's probably working
** Given the way some
* TeamMom: All up and down the line, she cares for her group very much but
!![=JoJo=] Zeke
!!Chad Aguilar
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Second in command who became
A long time member of the
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* TheDragon: Oddly, whether Gary or Heidi is in charge of the company, [=JoJo=] gravitates to the position of second-in-command.
* HeroOfAnotherStory: [=JoJo=] is the only Hard8 character who shows up regularly in Muncie to interact with the regular cast. This is because one of his many duties is putting an end to crises... and the gamers in Muncie tend to create crises. They're his biggest headache.
** Except possibly [[NoodleIncident the rogue gamer chapters out in Idaho.]]
!!"Waco" Bob Forsey
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The old man of the group. During Gary's tenure as head of the company, Bob got along largely by agreeing with everything Gary said. This may have been the reason he was the first to get fired when Heidi took over. Tuley quietly organized a campaign where the other employees took a pay cut to get him re-hired.
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* YesMan: As noted, all he ever did at Hard 8 staff meetings was agree with Gary Jackson's pronouncements. According to the [[WordOfGod cast list]], his playtest reports described every newly developed game as "the next TabletopGame/HackMaster".
!!Pete "Skip" Skipowski
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* HeroOfAnotherStory: [=JoJo=] is the only Hard8 character who shows up regularly in Muncie to interact with the regular cast. This is because one of his many duties is putting an end to crises... and the gamers in Muncie tend to create crises. They're his biggest headache.
** Except possibly [[NoodleIncident the rogue gamer chapters out in Idaho.]]
!!"Waco" Bob Forsey
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The old man of the group. During Gary's tenure as head of the company, Bob got along largely by agreeing with everything Gary said. This may have been the reason he was the first to get fired when Heidi took over. Tuley quietly organized a campaign where the other employees took a pay cut to get him re-hired.
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* YesMan: As noted, all he ever did at Hard 8 staff meetings was agree with Gary Jackson's pronouncements. According to the [[WordOfGod cast list]], his playtest reports described every newly developed game as "the next TabletopGame/HackMaster".
!!Pete "Skip" Skipowski
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* TheDragon: Oddly, whether Gary or Heidi is in charge ClosetGeek: Chad was very, very reluctant to reveal his hobby to Reese - to the point of hiring [[HookerWithAHeartOfGold Trish]] to impersonate her when the group insisted on being allowed to meet 'Reese'.
* HotBlooded: To a lesser extent than Bob but still present.
* SatelliteCharacter: He's less flawed, and therefore less amusing: he doesn't get much screen time of his own.
!!Eddie "Tank" Rodriguez
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Pretty much the embodiment of thecompany, [=JoJo=] gravitates modern gamer geek stereotype, Tank is a large, obese, hairy, timid, thoughtful man who is awkward around women (even by KODT standards.) He's gentle to the position point of second-in-command.
* HeroOfAnotherStory: [=JoJo=] isbeing an emotional doormat for the rest of the group. For a long time, the only Hard8 other character who shows up regularly in Muncie he was known to interact associate with outside of the regular cast. Perps was Trish, from the Ladies of Hack. This is because was expanded slightly by the Java Joint spinoff strip, which showed him in a book club with Patty and Sara.
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* AscendedExtra: One of the stars of the Java Joint strips with Sarah and Patty.
* GentleGiant: He's a larger character but one ofhis many duties is putting an end to crises... and the least violent gamers in Muncie tend Muncie.
* PlatonicProstitution: He hired Trish tocreate crises. They're his biggest headache.
** Except possibly [[NoodleIncidentgame with him. She enjoyed it enough to join the rogue gamer chapters out in Idaho.]]
!!"Waco" Bob Forsey
Ladies of Hack and came to like Tank enough to give him gifts that probably offset most of what she was paid.
!!Leslie "Crutch" Humphries
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The old man of the group. During Gary's tenure as head of the company, Bob got along largely by agreeing with everything Gary said. This may have been the reason he was the first to get fired when Heidi took over. Tuley quietly organized a campaign where the other employees took a pay cut to get him re-hired.
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* YesMan: As noted, all he ever did at Hard 8 staff meetings was agree with Gary Jackson's pronouncements. According to the [[WordOfGod cast list]], his playtest reports described every newly developed game as "the next TabletopGame/HackMaster".
!!Pete "Skip" Skipowski
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* HotBlooded: To a lesser extent than Bob but still present.
* SatelliteCharacter: He's less flawed, and therefore less amusing: he doesn't get much screen time of his own.
!!Eddie "Tank" Rodriguez
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Pretty much the embodiment of the
* HeroOfAnotherStory: [=JoJo=] is
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* AscendedExtra: One of the stars of the Java Joint strips with Sarah and Patty.
* GentleGiant: He's a larger character but one of
* PlatonicProstitution: He hired Trish to
** Except possibly [[NoodleIncident
!!"Waco" Bob Forsey
!!Leslie "Crutch" Humphries
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The old man of the group. During Gary's tenure as head of the company, Bob got along largely by agreeing with everything Gary said. This may have been the reason he was the first to get fired when Heidi took over. Tuley quietly organized a campaign where the other employees took a pay cut to get him re-hired.
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* YesMan: As noted, all he ever did at Hard 8 staff meetings was agree with Gary Jackson's pronouncements. According to the [[WordOfGod cast list]], his playtest reports described every newly developed game as "the next TabletopGame/HackMaster".
!!Pete "Skip" Skipowski
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A college buddy of Gary Jackson's who became a game designer for Hard 8 when the company was formed.
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* SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute: At one point when [=JoJo=] was unavailable, Skip was sent to deal with the [[RunningGag latest "problem in Muncie".]]
!!Edmund Finley
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A younger game designer for the company, his pet project was a game called "Abe, Babes and Roller Blades," described as a "sexy, zany, time-travelling romp through history and fashion."
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!!Tuley Priswinkle
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For a long time, Tuley was the company's unpaid customer service representative, under the impression that he was playtesting a virtual corporation computer game. He eventually became a regular employee and even sat in the boardroom for a while during Heidi's tenure.
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* SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute: At one point when [=JoJo=] was unavailable, Skip was sent to deal with the [[RunningGag latest "problem in Muncie".]]
!!Edmund Finley
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A younger game designer for the company, his pet project was a game called "Abe, Babes and Roller Blades," described as a "sexy, zany, time-travelling romp through history and fashion."
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!!Tuley Priswinkle
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For a long time, Tuley was the company's unpaid customer service representative, under the impression that he was playtesting a virtual corporation computer game. He eventually became a regular employee and even sat in the boardroom for a while during Heidi's tenure.
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* SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute: At one point when [=JoJo=] was unavailable, Skip was sent
!!Edmund Finley
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A younger
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!!Tuley Priswinkle
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* AscendedFanboy: Started working at the company's phoneline and eventually became part of the board.
* BecomingTheMask: He eventually figured out the ruse but continued to "play" the "game" because it was fun. Shortly after that, he became an actual employee.
!!Timmy Jackson
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The son and heir of Gary Jackson. Gary used to let Timmy create material for the game in an egregious example of nepotism (the kid was eight, and it showed in his work). After Gary's death, Heidi sent him off to military school, where he discovered football and girls and decided roleplaying games were uncool.
* BecomingTheMask: He eventually figured out the ruse but continued to "play" the "game" because it was fun. Shortly after that, he became an actual employee.
!!Timmy Jackson
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The son and heir of Gary Jackson. Gary used to let Timmy create material for the game in an egregious example of nepotism (the kid was eight, and it showed in his work). After Gary's death, Heidi sent him off to military school, where he discovered football and girls and decided roleplaying games were uncool.
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* AscendedFanboy: Started working at AllBikersAreHellsAngels: A hulking, brutish ex-con motorcyclist.
* BreakoutCharacter: He's become one of thecompany's phoneline most popular characters; he's the oddball who can't quite fit into an otherwise fairly well-adjusted group.
* ChronicBackstabbingDisorder: Has mostly recovered from this but even to this day he charges for the healing his cleric "Friar Swayze" doles out.
* EmbarrassingFirstName: Leslie.
* HeelFaceTurn: When introduced, he's an ex-con who still seems willing to engage in criminal behavior but he makes an earnest effort to go straight for his old lady and eventuallybecame part becomes an honorable JerkWithAHeartOfGold.
** The turning point comes when [[ItMakesSenseInContext he winds up locked up in prison]] with the Black Hands and insists on playing the Western RPG Cattlepunk. These were his [[AlwaysChaoticEvil earliest days]] in the hobby, so the Black Hands spent most of their time rolling up new characters and trying to avoid being gunned down by Crutch for their starting money - [[AlwaysABiggerFish even Stevil.]]
* KillerGamemaster: He couldn't get accredited to run Hackmaster, but found his niche running an old gang-violence RPG called ''Crime Nation.'' The body count is so high that even ''Weird Pete'' thinks it's high. A lot of cast usually found at other tables have turned up at Crutch's ''Crime Nation'' game, apparently for love of theboard.
* BecomingTheMask: He eventually figured out the ruse but continued to "play" the "game" because it was fun. Shortly after that, he became an actual employee.
!!Timmy Jackson
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!!Mo
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The son A middle aged widow/ex-housewife living off life insurance and heir of Gary Jackson. Gary used to let Timmy create material for inheritance, Mo met Patty volunteering at an after school program and was excited about trying out Hackmaster. At the game in an egregious example of nepotism (the kid was eight, table, she's very outspoken and blunt but nice, which makes it showed all the more surprising when she kicks your teeth in his work). After Gary's death, Heidi sent him off to military school, where he discovered football and girls and decided roleplaying games were uncool.steals your loot.
* BreakoutCharacter: He's become one of the
* ChronicBackstabbingDisorder: Has mostly recovered from this but even to this day he charges for the healing his cleric "Friar Swayze" doles out.
* EmbarrassingFirstName: Leslie.
* HeelFaceTurn: When introduced, he's an ex-con who still seems willing to engage in criminal behavior but he makes an earnest effort to go straight for his old lady and eventually
** The turning point comes when [[ItMakesSenseInContext he winds up locked up in prison]] with the Black Hands and insists on playing the Western RPG Cattlepunk. These were his [[AlwaysChaoticEvil earliest days]] in the hobby, so the Black Hands spent most of their time rolling up new characters and trying to avoid being gunned down by Crutch for their starting money - [[AlwaysABiggerFish even Stevil.]]
* KillerGamemaster: He couldn't get accredited to run Hackmaster, but found his niche running an old gang-violence RPG called ''Crime Nation.'' The body count is so high that even ''Weird Pete'' thinks it's high. A lot of cast usually found at other tables have turned up at Crutch's ''Crime Nation'' game, apparently for love of the
* BecomingTheMask: He eventually figured out the ruse but continued to "play" the "game" because it was fun. Shortly after that, he became an actual employee.
!!Timmy Jackson
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!!Mo
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* [[invoked]]GodModeSue: InUniverse: When [=GMing=] the final round of the grudge match arc, he arbitrarily threw monsters and damage at the players. They managed to beat him by using the same tactic right back at him, causing him to break down and leave the table crying, giving the players a default win.
* {{Nepotism}}: Gary Jackson let him write Hard 8 supplements. The results were about what you would expect from an eight-year-old who doesn't know what he's doing.
!!Heidi Jackson
Gary's ex-wife and the runner of a successful paperback publishing company. Gary left Hard 8 to his son Timmy but the company is being held in trust till he turns 18 leaving Heidi to run the company as the trustee. She clearly has an axe to grind with her deceased ex but also is (presumably) trying to protect her son's legacy and make it profitable. Problem is, Hard 8 had always been a labor of love whereas Heidi expects the company to perform like hers does. This is pretty clearly a nod to Lorraine Williams (though not a direct parody) who was part of a business deal that took [=DnD=] from Creator/GaryGygax and played a role in the failure of Creator/{{TSR}}. She also released a new edition of Hackmaster, the only details for which seemed to match up with 4th edition Dungeons and Dragons from real life.
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* BadBoss: Not incompetent, she was simply mean to the Hard 8 staff, constantly cutting their budget and involving herself overly in aspects of the process she didn't really understand.
* DragonLady: Referred to as such, though she's not asian and only metaphorically fits the type.
* [[invoked]] ExecutiveMeddling: After finally playing a session of Hackmaster, she decided lots of changes needed to be made, which basically ruined the game. Based on the protests, the game has some superficial resemblance to the initial release of fourth edition ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons''. WordOfGod has said it wasn't a conscious decision but not a wrong take either.
* TyrantTakesTheHelm: How the Hard 8 staff view her despite how badly Gary mismanaged the company. They are proven right since her products are terrible.
* {{Nepotism}}: Gary Jackson let him write Hard 8 supplements. The results were about what you would expect from an eight-year-old who doesn't know what he's doing.
!!Heidi Jackson
Gary's ex-wife and the runner of a successful paperback publishing company. Gary left Hard 8 to his son Timmy but the company is being held in trust till he turns 18 leaving Heidi to run the company as the trustee. She clearly has an axe to grind with her deceased ex but also is (presumably) trying to protect her son's legacy and make it profitable. Problem is, Hard 8 had always been a labor of love whereas Heidi expects the company to perform like hers does. This is pretty clearly a nod to Lorraine Williams (though not a direct parody) who was part of a business deal that took [=DnD=] from Creator/GaryGygax and played a role in the failure of Creator/{{TSR}}. She also released a new edition of Hackmaster, the only details for which seemed to match up with 4th edition Dungeons and Dragons from real life.
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* BadBoss: Not incompetent, she was simply mean to the Hard 8 staff, constantly cutting their budget and involving herself overly in aspects of the process she didn't really understand.
* DragonLady: Referred to as such, though she's not asian and only metaphorically fits the type.
* [[invoked]] ExecutiveMeddling: After finally playing a session of Hackmaster, she decided lots of changes needed to be made, which basically ruined the game. Based on the protests, the game has some superficial resemblance to the initial release of fourth edition ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons''. WordOfGod has said it wasn't a conscious decision but not a wrong take either.
* TyrantTakesTheHelm: How the Hard 8 staff view her despite how badly Gary mismanaged the company. They are proven right since her products are terrible.
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* [[invoked]]GodModeSue: InUniverse: When [=GMing=] TheMunchkin: Mo is the final round of the grudge match arc, he arbitrarily threw monsters and damage at the players. They managed to beat him by using the same tactic right back at him, causing him to break down and leave the table crying, giving the players a default win.
* {{Nepotism}}: Gary Jackson let him write Hard 8 supplements. The results were about what you would expect from an eight-year-old who doesn't know what he's doing.
!!Heidi Jackson
Gary's ex-wife and the runner of a successful paperback publishing company. Gary left Hard 8 to his son Timmy but the company is being heldunique case in trust till he turns 18 leaving Heidi to run the company as the trustee. She clearly has an axe to grind with her deceased ex but also is (presumably) trying to protect her son's legacy and make it profitable. Problem is, Hard 8 had always been a labor of love whereas Heidi expects the company to perform like hers does. This is pretty clearly a nod to Lorraine Williams (though not a direct parody) who was part much all of fiction of a business deal middle aged female that took [=DnD=] from Creator/GaryGygax and played a role in the failure of Creator/{{TSR}}. She also released a new edition of Hackmaster, fits this trope. Probably the only details difference between her and the other munchkins is its all fun and games for which seemed to match up with 4th edition Dungeons her and Dragons from real life.
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* BadBoss: Not incompetent, she was simply mean to the Hard 8 staff, constantly cutting their budget and involving herself overly in aspects of the process she didn't really understand.
* DragonLady: Referred to as such, thoughshe's not asian and only metaphorically fits the type.
* [[invoked]] ExecutiveMeddling: After finally playing a session of Hackmaster, she decided lots of changes neededgoing to be made, which basically ruined the game. Based on the protests, the game has some superficial resemblance to the initial release of fourth edition ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons''. WordOfGod has said it wasn't a conscious decision but not a wrong take either.
* TyrantTakesTheHelm: How the Hard 8 staff viewget overly upset if things don't go her despite how badly Gary mismanaged the company. They are proven right since her products are terrible.
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* {{Nepotism}}: Gary Jackson let him write Hard 8 supplements. The results were about what you would expect from an eight-year-old who doesn't know what he's doing.
!!Heidi Jackson
Gary's ex-wife and the runner of a successful paperback publishing company. Gary left Hard 8 to his son Timmy but the company is being held
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* BadBoss: Not incompetent, she was simply mean to the Hard 8 staff, constantly cutting their budget and involving herself overly in aspects of the process she didn't really understand.
* DragonLady: Referred to as such, though
* [[invoked]] ExecutiveMeddling: After finally playing a session of Hackmaster, she decided lots of changes needed
* TyrantTakesTheHelm: How the Hard 8 staff view
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[[folder:Patty's Perps]]
The third name level gaming group to gain continual focus in the strips. The group is known for its eclectic group of hardcases, people who mostly wouldn't fit in with normal society or even other gamers in many places. Like the other gamemasters, Patti has her quirks which include a swear jar, a time out corner, and the use of M & M's to track experience points, all of which come from Patti's background as a school teacher.
The third name level gaming group to gain continual focus in the strips. The group is known for its eclectic group of hardcases, people who mostly wouldn't fit in with normal society or even other gamers in many places. Like the other gamemasters, Patti has her quirks which include a swear jar, a time out corner, and the use of M & M's to track experience points, all of which come from Patti's background as a school teacher.
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The third name level
An all-female gaming group
!! Sheila Horowitz
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* GoodCounterpart: Unlike the Black Hands who are worse than the Knights, the Patty's Perps are optimistic and loving.
* RagtagBunchOfMisfits: They have nothing in common but gaming.
!!Patty Gauzweiler
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The Gamemaster. Patty is a school teacher who hosts games in her trailer and tends to take in lost souls or anyone who looks like they need some mothering. This, perhaps, explains why she was shown in her earliest appearances relentlessly pursuing [[ManChild Dave]] to resume the relationship they once had. Patty is also the Gamemaster for the local but seldom shown Ladies of Hack group consisting of most of the regular female characters. Though she has a basically good heart, Patty is also a master of the evil situation, once manipulating her group's entire party into jumping into a lava pit just so she could win a bet with the other Gamemasters in town.
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* BerserkButton: Brian in general hacks her off, but he really pushes her button when he ropes Bob into his schemes or takes advantage of him. And Brian put a brick on her button when he sent Bob to Hard 8 by mail and the
* DeadpanSnarker: She's got a biting comment for every occasion.
* TheDreaded: Where Brian is dreaded by gamemasters all over Muncie, Sheila is dreaded by pretty much everybody. She's got a nasty streak a mile wide, has a fondness for {{Disproportionate Retribution}}s and doesn't care overly much who
* FourEyesZeroSoul: Played straight most of the
*
* TheRealMan: Gender-flipped. Possibly the only thing she and Bob have
* SitcomArchEnemy: Has been this to B.A. and to Sara, but
!!Patty Gauzweiler
* {{Tsundere}} Used to game with the Knights until B.A. accused her of cheating and they got in a fist fight. Sheila was the big reason the Knights were leery about letting Sara join the group.
!! Bridget Keating
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* EightiesHair: Has a particularly lush and large do.
* FriendToAllChildren: She seems to adore and be adored by all of Muncie’s kids.
* HeroesWantRedheads: BA certainly does.
* InformedAttractiveness: She's supposed to be quite attractive, but drawing attractive women isn't really Jolly's strong point. Her appearance is kind of an artifact; later 'pretty girl' characters are drawn more attractively, but changing Patty's model might make the character unrecognizable.
* MisplacedKindergartenTeacher: Patty actually ''is'' a kindergarten teacher. However, she has difficulties turning the attitude off and ends up treating her gaming group like a bunch of preschoolers, including a "Time Out Corner" with "5 points to ponder".
** Given the way some gamers act in this comic, treating them like preschoolers might be giving them too much credit.
* TeamMom: All up and down the line, she cares for her group very much but also disciplines them like her students.
!!Chad Aguilar
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* FriendToAllChildren: She seems to adore and be adored by all of Muncie’s kids.
* HeroesWantRedheads: BA certainly does.
* InformedAttractiveness: She's supposed to be quite attractive, but drawing attractive women isn't really Jolly's strong point. Her appearance is kind of an artifact; later 'pretty girl' characters are drawn more attractively, but changing Patty's model might make the character unrecognizable.
* MisplacedKindergartenTeacher: Patty actually ''is'' a kindergarten teacher. However, she has difficulties turning the attitude off and ends up treating her gaming group like a bunch of preschoolers, including a "Time Out Corner" with "5 points to ponder".
** Given the way some gamers act in this comic, treating them like preschoolers might be giving them too much credit.
* TeamMom: All up and down the line, she cares for her group very much but also disciplines them like her students.
!!Chad Aguilar
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* EightiesHair: Has a particularly lush and large do.
* FriendToAllChildren: She seems to adore and be adored by all of Muncie’s kids.
* HeroesWantRedheads: BA certainly does.
* InformedAttractiveness:ArtShift: Most strongly in early appearances. She's supposed to be quite attractive, but drawing attractive women isn't really Jolly's strong point. Her appearance is kind of an artifact; later 'pretty girl' characters are still drawn more attractively, but changing Patty's model might make a lot less googly-eyed and scribble-fingered than the character unrecognizable.
rest of the cast.
*MisplacedKindergartenTeacher: Patty actually ''is'' a kindergarten teacher. However, IHaveBoobsYouMustObey: Most of the time, though hilariously subverted when she has difficulties turning tried to charm her way past a KnightTemplar guarding the attitude off door at Gary Con.
* TheVamp: Happily uses her cosplay outfits andends up treating her gaming group like a bunch of preschoolers, including a "Time Out Corner" with "5 points sex appeal to ponder".
** Given the way some gamers act in this comic, treating them like preschoolers might be giving them too much credit.
* TeamMom: All up and down the line, she cares for her group very much but also disciplines them like her students.
!!Chad Aguilar
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!!Trish
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* FriendToAllChildren: She seems to adore and be adored by all of Muncie’s kids.
* HeroesWantRedheads: BA certainly does.
* InformedAttractiveness:
*
* TheVamp: Happily uses her cosplay outfits and
** Given the way some gamers act in this comic, treating them like preschoolers might be giving them too much credit.
* TeamMom: All up and down the line, she cares for her group very much but also disciplines them like her students.
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A long time member of the group. Though Chad fits in socially as a college student, he started gaming in middle school where his munchkin tendencies kept him away from other gaming tables leading Patty to take him in. Today, he's more the team spitfire, easily irritated but a bit more mature as a player. Recently, Chad has been bringing his pacifist fiancee Reese to the table; she's more than a little disturbed by all the violence in these games.
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* ClosetGeek: Chad was very, very reluctant to reveal his hobby to Reese - to the point of hiring [[HookerWithAHeartOfGold Trish]] to impersonate her when the group insisted on being allowed to meet 'Reese'.
* HotBlooded: To a lesser extent than Bob but still present.
* SatelliteCharacter: He's less flawed, and therefore less amusing: he doesn't get much screen time of his own.
!!Eddie "Tank" Rodriguez
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Pretty much the embodiment of the modern gamer geek stereotype, Tank is a large, obese, hairy, timid, thoughtful man who is awkward around women (even by KODT standards.) He's gentle to the point of being an emotional doormat for the rest of the group. For a long time, the only other character he was known to associate with outside of the Perps was Trish, from the Ladies of Hack. This was expanded slightly by the Java Joint spinoff strip, which showed him in a book club with Patty and Sara.
* HotBlooded: To a lesser extent than Bob but still present.
* SatelliteCharacter: He's less flawed, and therefore less amusing: he doesn't get much screen time of his own.
!!Eddie "Tank" Rodriguez
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Pretty much the embodiment of the modern gamer geek stereotype, Tank is a large, obese, hairy, timid, thoughtful man who is awkward around women (even by KODT standards.) He's gentle to the point of being an emotional doormat for the rest of the group. For a long time, the only other character he was known to associate with outside of the Perps was Trish, from the Ladies of Hack. This was expanded slightly by the Java Joint spinoff strip, which showed him in a book club with Patty and Sara.
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* ClosetGeek: Chad HighClassCallGirl: Works with a service and in good conditions.
* HookerWithAHeartOfGold: Technically an escort with a heart of gold. She's nice to Tank and even stands up for him to his friends. Later, she buys him some really nice gaming merchandise which, to judge Weird Pete's reaction, offset a good chunk of what Tank paid for her services.
* UglyGuyHotWife: Sort of. There wasvery, very reluctant to reveal his hobby to Reese - to the point a lot of hiring [[HookerWithAHeartOfGold Trish]] to impersonate her head-scratching in Muncie when the group insisted on being allowed to meet 'Reese'.
* HotBlooded: To a lesser extent than Bob but still present.
* SatelliteCharacter: He's less flawed,Trish started showing up in public with Tank and therefore less amusing: he doesn't get much screen time of his own.
!!Eddie "Tank" Rodriguez
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!!Squirrely (aka Squire Lee)
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Pretty much A chimp [[AllThereInTheManual formerly used as a military research subject,]] who wound up being adopted by Weird Pete. He seems to have a solid grasp of spoken English, the embodiment of ability to read and operate a cash register (although he's never mastered the modern gamer geek stereotype, Tank is a large, obese, hairy, timid, thoughtful man who is awkward around women (even by KODT standards.) art of making change), and has even sat in on games. He's gentle to the point of being an emotional doormat for the rest of the group. For a long time, the only other character he was known to associate chain-smoker with outside a wide mean streak. Several characters have suffered AmusingInjuries as a result of the Perps was Trish, from the Ladies of Hack. This was expanded slightly by the Java Joint spinoff strip, which showed him in a book club with Patty and Sara.crossing him.
* HookerWithAHeartOfGold: Technically an escort with a heart of gold. She's nice to Tank and even stands up for him to his friends. Later, she buys him some really nice gaming merchandise which, to judge Weird Pete's reaction, offset a good chunk of what Tank paid for her services.
* UglyGuyHotWife: Sort of. There was
* HotBlooded: To a lesser extent than Bob but still present.
* SatelliteCharacter: He's less flawed,
!!Eddie "Tank" Rodriguez
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!!Squirrely (aka Squire Lee)
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* AscendedExtra: One of the stars of the Java Joint strips with Sarah and Patty.
* GentleGiant: He's a larger character but one of the least violent gamers in Muncie.
* PlatonicProstitution: He hired Trish to game with him. She enjoyed it enough to join the Ladies of Hack and came to like Tank enough to give him gifts that probably offset most of what she was paid.
!!Leslie "Crutch" Humphries
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An ex-con gone straight. Crutch met the Black Hands when they decided to game at Hawg Wallers. Crutch and others around thought the Hands were planning a bank heist (in fact, they were playing a Western RPG and were plotting to rob a bank in-game). After spending a few nights in jail with the Black Hands over this misunderstanding, Crutch fell in love with gaming and began seeking gaming groups. Unfortunately, his enthusiasm for Hack and Slash extended to killing other player's characters at the table so he couldn't find a group until BA directed him to Patty, who has made him her latest project. He has recently become a surprise hit [=GMing=] "Crime Nation," bringing realistic grittiness into his game thanks to his personal experience in crime.
* GentleGiant: He's a larger character but one of the least violent gamers in Muncie.
* PlatonicProstitution: He hired Trish to game with him. She enjoyed it enough to join the Ladies of Hack and came to like Tank enough to give him gifts that probably offset most of what she was paid.
!!Leslie "Crutch" Humphries
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An ex-con gone straight. Crutch met the Black Hands when they decided to game at Hawg Wallers. Crutch and others around thought the Hands were planning a bank heist (in fact, they were playing a Western RPG and were plotting to rob a bank in-game). After spending a few nights in jail with the Black Hands over this misunderstanding, Crutch fell in love with gaming and began seeking gaming groups. Unfortunately, his enthusiasm for Hack and Slash extended to killing other player's characters at the table so he couldn't find a group until BA directed him to Patty, who has made him her latest project. He has recently become a surprise hit [=GMing=] "Crime Nation," bringing realistic grittiness into his game thanks to his personal experience in crime.
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* AscendedExtra: One of BerserkButton: He has several, but they seem to change over time.
* HeroicComedicSociopath:
--> '''Pete:''' He stole Stevil's wallet and inhaler and crawled into thestars of the Java Joint strips heating duct.
--> '''Gordo:''' Stevil didn't crawl in after him, did he? I tried that once and he stole my glasses and gave me a reverse wedgie.
--> '''Pete:''' Nah, he's trying to flush him out withSarah the fire extinguisher.
* TheUnintelligible: Though able to understand English very well, Squirrely only speaks in ape noises.
** Lampshaded when Weird Pete - andPatty.
* GentleGiant: He'sto a larger character but one of lesser extent, Dave and Gordo - seem to get the least violent gamers in Muncie.
* PlatonicProstitution: He hired Trishgist of everything Squirrely attempts to game with him. She enjoyed it communicate. Gordo even manages to understand him well enough to join successfully play "I Spy" with him.
* NearlyNormalAnimal: Chimps are already pretty humanlike, but Squirrely takes it to theLadies of Hack and came to like Tank enough to give him gifts that probably offset most of what she was paid.
!!Leslie "Crutch" Humphries
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An ex-con gone straight. Crutch metnext level.
* UnusuallyUninterestingSight: A chimp tending theBlack Hands when they decided to cash register at your local game at Hawg Wallers. Crutch store? No big deal.
!!Croix andothers around thought the Hands were planning a bank heist (in fact, they were playing a Western RPG Hunter
Bob's Niece andwere plotting Nephew respectively. Bob occasionally tries to rob a bank in-game). After spending a few nights in jail with the Black Hands over this misunderstanding, Crutch fell in love with gaming run games for them and began seeking gaming groups. Unfortunately, his enthusiasm for Hack and Slash extended to killing other player's characters at the table so he couldn't find a group until BA directed him to Patty, who sometimes has made him her latest project. He to borrow Croix's laptop to play World of Hackcraft. Croix has recently become a surprise hit [=GMing=] "Crime Nation," bringing realistic grittiness into his game thanks to his personal experience in crime.an innocent crush on Dave.
* HeroicComedicSociopath:
--> '''Pete:''' He stole Stevil's wallet and inhaler and crawled into the
--> '''Gordo:''' Stevil didn't crawl in after him, did he? I tried that once and he stole my glasses and gave me a reverse wedgie.
--> '''Pete:''' Nah, he's trying to flush him out with
* TheUnintelligible: Though able to understand English very well, Squirrely only speaks in ape noises.
** Lampshaded when Weird Pete - and
* GentleGiant: He's
* PlatonicProstitution: He hired Trish
* NearlyNormalAnimal: Chimps are already pretty humanlike, but Squirrely takes it to the
!!Leslie "Crutch" Humphries
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An ex-con gone straight. Crutch met
* UnusuallyUninterestingSight: A chimp tending the
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* AllBikersAreHellsAngels: A hulking, brutish ex-con motorcyclist.
* BreakoutCharacter: He's become one of the most popular characters; he's the oddball who can't quite fit into an otherwise fairly well-adjusted group.
* ChronicBackstabbingDisorder: Has mostly recovered from this but even to this day he charges for the healing his cleric "Friar Swayze" doles out.
* EmbarrassingFirstName: Leslie.
* HeelFaceTurn: When introduced, he's an ex-con who still seems willing to engage in criminal behavior but he makes an earnest effort to go straight for his old lady and eventually becomes an honorable JerkWithAHeartOfGold.
** The turning point comes when [[ItMakesSenseInContext he winds up locked up in prison]] with the Black Hands and insists on playing the Western RPG Cattlepunk. These were his [[AlwaysChaoticEvil earliest days]] in the hobby, so the Black Hands spent most of their time rolling up new characters and trying to avoid being gunned down by Crutch for their starting money - [[AlwaysABiggerFish even Stevil.]]
* KillerGamemaster: He couldn't get accredited to run Hackmaster, but found his niche running an old gang-violence RPG called ''Crime Nation.'' The body count is so high that even ''Weird Pete'' thinks it's high. A lot of cast usually found at other tables have turned up at Crutch's ''Crime Nation'' game, apparently for love of the challenge.
!!Mo
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A middle aged widow/ex-housewife living off life insurance and inheritance, Mo met Patty volunteering at an after school program and was excited about trying out Hackmaster. At the table, she's very outspoken and blunt but nice, which makes it all the more surprising when she kicks your teeth in and steals your loot.
* BreakoutCharacter: He's become one of the most popular characters; he's the oddball who can't quite fit into an otherwise fairly well-adjusted group.
* ChronicBackstabbingDisorder: Has mostly recovered from this but even to this day he charges for the healing his cleric "Friar Swayze" doles out.
* EmbarrassingFirstName: Leslie.
* HeelFaceTurn: When introduced, he's an ex-con who still seems willing to engage in criminal behavior but he makes an earnest effort to go straight for his old lady and eventually becomes an honorable JerkWithAHeartOfGold.
** The turning point comes when [[ItMakesSenseInContext he winds up locked up in prison]] with the Black Hands and insists on playing the Western RPG Cattlepunk. These were his [[AlwaysChaoticEvil earliest days]] in the hobby, so the Black Hands spent most of their time rolling up new characters and trying to avoid being gunned down by Crutch for their starting money - [[AlwaysABiggerFish even Stevil.]]
* KillerGamemaster: He couldn't get accredited to run Hackmaster, but found his niche running an old gang-violence RPG called ''Crime Nation.'' The body count is so high that even ''Weird Pete'' thinks it's high. A lot of cast usually found at other tables have turned up at Crutch's ''Crime Nation'' game, apparently for love of the challenge.
!!Mo
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A middle aged widow/ex-housewife living off life insurance and inheritance, Mo met Patty volunteering at an after school program and was excited about trying out Hackmaster. At the table, she's very outspoken and blunt but nice, which makes it all the more surprising when she kicks your teeth in and steals your loot.
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* AllBikersAreHellsAngels: A hulking, brutish ex-con motorcyclist.
* BreakoutCharacter: He's become one of the most popular characters; he's the oddball who can't quite fit into an otherwise fairly well-adjusted group.
* ChronicBackstabbingDisorder: Has mostly recovered from this but even to this day he charges for the healing his cleric "Friar Swayze" doles out.
* EmbarrassingFirstName: Leslie.
* HeelFaceTurn: When introduced, he's an ex-con who still seems willing to engage in criminal behavior but hePrecociousCrush: Croix has a crush on Dave. She's probably ten. It makes an earnest effort to go straight for his old lady and eventually becomes an honorable JerkWithAHeartOfGold.
** The turning point comes when [[ItMakesSenseInContext he winds up locked up in prison]] with the Black Hands and insists on playing the Western RPG Cattlepunk. These were his [[AlwaysChaoticEvil earliest days]] in the hobby, so the Black Hands spent most of their time rolling up new characters and trying to avoid being gunned down by Crutch for their starting money - [[AlwaysABiggerFish even Stevil.]]
* KillerGamemaster: He couldn't get accredited to run Hackmaster, but found his niche running an old gang-violence RPG called ''Crime Nation.'' The body count is so high that even ''Weird Pete'' thinks it's high. A lot of cast usually found at other tables have turned up at Crutch's ''Crime Nation'' game, apparently for love of the challenge.
!!Mo
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!! Ty Ferfel
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Nitro's nephew. Amiddle aged widow/ex-housewife living off life insurance young gamer that hangs out on the periphery of the community and inheritance, Mo met Patty volunteering at an after school program and was excited about trying out Hackmaster. At is often involved in under the table, she's very outspoken and blunt but nice, which makes it all the more surprising when she kicks your teeth in and steals your loot.table dealings.
* BreakoutCharacter: He's become one of the most popular characters; he's the oddball who can't quite fit into an otherwise fairly well-adjusted group.
* ChronicBackstabbingDisorder: Has mostly recovered from this but even to this day he charges for the healing his cleric "Friar Swayze" doles out.
* EmbarrassingFirstName: Leslie.
* HeelFaceTurn: When introduced, he's an ex-con who still seems willing to engage in criminal behavior but he
** The turning point comes when [[ItMakesSenseInContext he winds up locked up in prison]] with the Black Hands and insists on playing the Western RPG Cattlepunk. These were his [[AlwaysChaoticEvil earliest days]] in the hobby, so the Black Hands spent most of their time rolling up new characters and trying to avoid being gunned down by Crutch for their starting money - [[AlwaysABiggerFish even Stevil.]]
* KillerGamemaster: He couldn't get accredited to run Hackmaster, but found his niche running an old gang-violence RPG called ''Crime Nation.'' The body count is so high that even ''Weird Pete'' thinks it's high. A lot of cast usually found at other tables have turned up at Crutch's ''Crime Nation'' game, apparently for love of the challenge.
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!! Ty Ferfel
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* TheMunchkin: Mo is the unique case in pretty much all of fiction of a middle aged female that fits this trope. Probably the only difference between her and the other munchkins is its all fun and games for her and she's not going to get overly upset if things don't go her way.
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An all-female gaming group that meets separately from the male-dominated Muncie gaming community (though nearly all of them have other groups they play with regularly and for tournament purposes). They're also part of a larger organization of the same name that lobbies Hard8 and the TabletopGame/HackMaster Players' Association to change the sexist depictions of women and some of the more chauvinistic rules (such as the Strength penalty for female characters.) The local group is run by Patty Gauzweiler. Although the LoH are only rarely shown actually gaming, their membership includes most of the strip's prominent female gamers, including Sara, Patty, and several others.
!! Sheila Horowitz
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First mentioned offscreen as the female gamer who beat up B.A. over an in-game dispute, Sheila didn't become an on-screen character for a long time. For a while she was nearly a nemesis of the Knights: then she rather unexpectedly started dating Bob - partly out of admiration for Bob's commitment to the game and partly because he needs mothering. Tends to play [[KnightInSourArmor Knight Errants]].
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[[folder:Ladies of Hack]]
An all-female gaming group that meets separately from the male-dominated Muncie gaming community (though nearly all of them have other groups they play with regularly and for tournament purposes). They're also part of a larger organization of the same name that lobbies Hard8 and the TabletopGame/HackMaster Players' Association to change the sexist depictions of women and some of the more chauvinistic rules (such as the Strength penalty for female characters.) The local group is run by Patty Gauzweiler. Although the LoH are only rarely shown actually gaming, their membership includes most of the strip's prominent female gamers, including Sara, Patty, and several others.
!! Sheila Horowitz
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First mentioned offscreen as the female gamer who beat up B.A. over an in-game dispute, Sheila didn't become an on-screen character for a long time. For a while she was nearly a nemesis of the Knights: then she rather unexpectedly started dating Bob - partly out of admiration for Bob's commitment to the game and partly because he needs mothering. Tends to play [[KnightInSourArmor Knight Errants]].
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* TheMunchkin: Mo is the unique case in pretty much all of fiction of a middle aged female that fits this trope. Probably the only difference between her and the other munchkins is its all fun and games for her and she's not going to get overly upset if things don't go her way.
[[/folder]]
[[folder:Ladies of Hack]]
An all-female gaming group that meets separately from the male-dominated Muncie gaming community (though nearly all of them have other groups they play with regularly and for tournament purposes). They're also part of a larger organization of the same name that lobbies Hard8 and the TabletopGame/HackMaster Players' Association to change the sexist depictions of women and some of the more chauvinistic rules (such as the Strength penalty for female characters.) The local group is run by Patty Gauzweiler. Although the LoH are only rarely shownConsummateProfessional: He actually gaming, their membership includes most of is this regards to gaming and is so to the strip's prominent female gamers, including Sara, Patty, and several others.
point of being paid as a temp.
!!Sheila Horowitz
Earl Slackmozer
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First mentioned offscreen as the female gamer A rival gamemaster who beat up gets a lot of buzz when he first comes to town, having had a module published by Hard 8 (something B.A. over an in-game dispute, Sheila didn't has long tried and failed). At first seems to be the superstar but eventually loses his shine and after being humbled, he and B.A. become an on-screen character for a long time. For a while she was nearly a nemesis of the Knights: then she rather unexpectedly started dating Bob - partly out of admiration for Bob's commitment to the game and partly because he needs mothering. Tends to play [[KnightInSourArmor Knight Errants]].friends. Earl currently works at Weird Pete's shop.
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An all-female gaming group that meets separately from the male-dominated Muncie gaming community (though nearly all of them have other groups they play with regularly and for tournament purposes). They're also part of a larger organization of the same name that lobbies Hard8 and the TabletopGame/HackMaster Players' Association to change the sexist depictions of women and some of the more chauvinistic rules (such as the Strength penalty for female characters.) The local group is run by Patty Gauzweiler. Although the LoH are only rarely shown
!!
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* AwwLookTheyReallyDoLoveEachOther: With Bob. As hard as she is on him, and as much as she talks down on/to him, she really ''does'' love him.
* BerserkButton: Brian in general hacks her off, but he really pushes her button when he ropes Bob into his schemes or takes advantage of him. And Brian put a brick on her button when he sent Bob to Hard 8 by mail and the box got ''lost in transit'', and then not even a few weeks later cons Bob into giving him Bob and Sheila's ''rent money'' to finance another scheme. It's only a small exaggeration to say Brian's lucky Sheila didn't kill him.
* DeadpanSnarker: She's got a biting comment for every occasion.
* TheDreaded: Where Brian is dreaded by gamemasters all over Muncie, Sheila is dreaded by pretty much everybody. She's got a nasty streak a mile wide, has a fondness for {{Disproportionate Retribution}}s and doesn't care overly much who gets caught in the crossfire.
* FourEyesZeroSoul: Played straight most of the time; Sheila is ''not'' a nice person and can in fact be decidedly ''awful'' to people around her -- but it gets subverted when she starts dating Bob and her gentler side comes forward a little more.
* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: When she finally meets Bob's father and realizes how abusive Bob Sr. is to his son, Sheila finally gets a look at what her treatment of Bob looks like from the outside, and it doesn't make her happy.
* TheRealMan: Gender-flipped. Possibly the only thing she and Bob have in common: they're there to kill things.
* SitcomArchEnemy: Has been this to B.A. and to Sara, but nowadays she regards her feud with Brian as SeriousBusiness.
* {{Tsundere}} Used to game with the Knights until B.A. accused her of cheating and they got in a fist fight. Sheila was the big reason the Knights were leery about letting Sara join the group.
!! Bridget Keating
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First introduced when the Knights players one by one get caught up in a Vampire LARP. Bridget was a clan leader and tended to use her *ahem* assets and her willingness to Cosplay along with her clan authority to get the guys to do whatever she wanted. Though she's calmed down she's still almost always seen in some kind of sexy cosplay outfit.
* BerserkButton: Brian in general hacks her off, but he really pushes her button when he ropes Bob into his schemes or takes advantage of him. And Brian put a brick on her button when he sent Bob to Hard 8 by mail and the box got ''lost in transit'', and then not even a few weeks later cons Bob into giving him Bob and Sheila's ''rent money'' to finance another scheme. It's only a small exaggeration to say Brian's lucky Sheila didn't kill him.
* DeadpanSnarker: She's got a biting comment for every occasion.
* TheDreaded: Where Brian is dreaded by gamemasters all over Muncie, Sheila is dreaded by pretty much everybody. She's got a nasty streak a mile wide, has a fondness for {{Disproportionate Retribution}}s and doesn't care overly much who gets caught in the crossfire.
* FourEyesZeroSoul: Played straight most of the time; Sheila is ''not'' a nice person and can in fact be decidedly ''awful'' to people around her -- but it gets subverted when she starts dating Bob and her gentler side comes forward a little more.
* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: When she finally meets Bob's father and realizes how abusive Bob Sr. is to his son, Sheila finally gets a look at what her treatment of Bob looks like from the outside, and it doesn't make her happy.
* TheRealMan: Gender-flipped. Possibly the only thing she and Bob have in common: they're there to kill things.
* SitcomArchEnemy: Has been this to B.A. and to Sara, but nowadays she regards her feud with Brian as SeriousBusiness.
* {{Tsundere}} Used to game with the Knights until B.A. accused her of cheating and they got in a fist fight. Sheila was the big reason the Knights were leery about letting Sara join the group.
!! Bridget Keating
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First introduced when the Knights players one by one get caught up in a Vampire LARP. Bridget was a clan leader and tended to use her *ahem* assets and her willingness to Cosplay along with her clan authority to get the guys to do whatever she wanted. Though she's calmed down she's still almost always seen in some kind of sexy cosplay outfit.
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* BerserkButton: Brian
* DeadpanSnarker: She's got a biting comment for every occasion.
* TheDreaded: Where Brian is dreaded by gamemasters all over Muncie, Sheila is dreaded by pretty much everybody. She's got a nasty streak a mile wide, has a fondness for {{Disproportionate Retribution}}s and doesn't care overly much who gets caught in the crossfire.
* FourEyesZeroSoul: Played straight most of the time; Sheila is ''not'' a nice person and can in fact be decidedly ''awful'' to people around her -- but it gets subverted when she starts dating Bob and her gentler side comes forward a little more.
* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: When she finally meets Bob's father and realizes how abusive Bob Sr. is to his son, Sheila finally gets a look at what her treatment of Bob looks like from the outside, and it doesn't make her happy.
* TheRealMan: Gender-flipped. Possibly the only thing she and Bob have in common: they're there to kill things.
* SitcomArchEnemy: Has been this to
* OutOfFocus: He still has a gaming group in Muncie, but he hasn't featured in any stories to speak of for a while.
* TheRival: BA and he used to
* {{Tsundere}} Used to game with
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* ArtShift: Most strongly in early appearances. She's still drawn a lot less googly-eyed and scribble-fingered than the rest of the cast.
* IHaveBoobsYouMustObey: Most of the time, though hilariously subverted when she tried to charm her way past a KnightTemplar guarding the door at Gary Con.
* TheVamp: Happily uses her cosplay outfits and sex appeal to control others.
!!Trish
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* IHaveBoobsYouMustObey: Most of the time, though hilariously subverted when she tried to charm her way past a KnightTemplar guarding the door at Gary Con.
* TheVamp: Happily uses her cosplay outfits and sex appeal to control others.
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* ArtShift: Most strongly in early appearances. She's still drawn a lot less googly-eyed and scribble-fingered than BornLucky: Until the rest of the cast.
* IHaveBoobsYouMustObey: Most of the time, though hilariously subvertedNoodleIncident when she tried to charm her way past a KnightTemplar guarding the door at Gary Con.his dice turned on him.
*TheVamp: Happily uses her cosplay outfits CasanovaWannabe: And he's married.
* FallenHero: This was the attitude B.A, Bob, Dave andsex appeal Brian all had toward him before his return to control others.
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!! Switch
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* IHaveBoobsYouMustObey: Most of the time, though hilariously subverted
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* HighClassCallGirl: Works with a service and in good conditions.
* HookerWithAHeartOfGold: Technically an escort with a heart of gold. She's nice to Tank and even stands up for him to his friends. Later, she buys him some really nice gaming merchandise which, to judge Weird Pete's reaction, offset a good chunk of what Tank paid for her services.
* UglyGuyHotWife: Sort of. There was a lot of head-scratching in Muncie when Trish started showing up in public with Tank and appeared to be dating him.
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!!Squirrely (aka Squire Lee)
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A chimp [[AllThereInTheManual formerly used as a military research subject,]] who wound up being adopted by Weird Pete. He seems to have a solid grasp of spoken English, the ability to read and operate a cash register (although he's never mastered the art of making change), and has even sat in on games. He's a chain-smoker with a wide mean streak. Several characters have suffered AmusingInjuries as a result of crossing him.
* HookerWithAHeartOfGold: Technically an escort with a heart of gold. She's nice to Tank and even stands up for him to his friends. Later, she buys him some really nice gaming merchandise which, to judge Weird Pete's reaction, offset a good chunk of what Tank paid for her services.
* UglyGuyHotWife: Sort of. There was a lot of head-scratching in Muncie when Trish started showing up in public with Tank and appeared to be dating him.
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!!Squirrely (aka Squire Lee)
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A chimp [[AllThereInTheManual formerly used as a military research subject,]] who wound up being adopted by Weird Pete. He seems to have a solid grasp of spoken English, the ability to read and operate a cash register (although he's never mastered the art of making change), and has even sat in on games. He's a chain-smoker with a wide mean streak. Several characters have suffered AmusingInjuries as a result of crossing him.
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* HighClassCallGirl: Works with AndYouThoughtItWasAGame: After Bob stumbles on Switch planning a service heist and in good conditions.
* HookerWithAHeartOfGold: Technically an escort with a heart of gold. She's nice to Tank and even stands upmistakes it for him to his friends. Later, she buys him some really nice a gaming merchandise which, to judge session, Switch plays along and picks his brain for useful tips.
* AndYouThoughtItWasReal: When Switch stumbles on Tank giving Crutch pointers on gamemastering and overhears casual comments about slitting throats and attacking people with flaming oil, he backs away and gets a drink, thinking that Crutch has fallen in with some stone-cold psycho.
* TheStoolPigeon: After getting caught at the scene of a heist, he gives up WeirdPete's reaction, offset Pete (who had filled in for Bob as "game session consultant") to save his own neck. The only reason he doesn't give up Bob is that Bob was too useful to lose.
* TooCleverByHalf: Bob's gaming experience and commitment to roleplaying thieves certainly gives him a goodchunk of what Tank paid mindset for her services.
* UglyGuyHotWife: Sort of. Thereplanning heists but Switch was a lot of head-scratching in Muncie when Trish started showing up in public with Tank and appeared pushing his luck continuing to rely on Bob. Switch must [[GenreSavvy not be dating him.
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!!Squirrely (aka Squire Lee)
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!! Cody Winkle
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A chimp [[AllThereInTheManual formerly used as Seen at a military research subject,]] who wound up being adopted by Weird Pete. He seems to have a solid grasp number of spoken English, the ability to read and operate a cash register (although he's game tables but has never mastered the art of making change), and has fit in with a group... not even sat in on games. the Black Hands. He's a chain-smoker with a wide mean streak. Several characters have suffered AmusingInjuries as a result of crossing him.local actor who likes to use his acting skills at the table and is known for his commitment to story and characterization over game play.
* HookerWithAHeartOfGold: Technically an escort with a heart of gold. She's nice to Tank and even stands up
* AndYouThoughtItWasReal: When Switch stumbles on Tank giving Crutch pointers on gamemastering and overhears casual comments about slitting throats and attacking people with flaming oil, he backs away and gets a drink, thinking that Crutch has fallen in with some stone-cold psycho.
* TheStoolPigeon: After getting caught at the scene of a heist, he gives up Weird
* TooCleverByHalf: Bob's gaming experience and commitment to roleplaying thieves certainly gives him a good
* UglyGuyHotWife: Sort of. There
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!!Squirrely (aka Squire Lee)
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* BerserkButton: He has several, but they seem to change over time.
* HeroicComedicSociopath:
--> '''Pete:''' He stole Stevil's wallet and inhaler and crawled into the heating duct.
--> '''Gordo:''' Stevil didn't crawl in after him, did he? I tried that once and he stole my glasses and gave me a reverse wedgie.
--> '''Pete:''' Nah, he's trying to flush him out with the fire extinguisher.
* TheUnintelligible: Though able to understand English very well, Squirrely only speaks in ape noises.
** Lampshaded when Weird Pete - and to a lesser extent, Dave and Gordo - seem to get the gist of everything Squirrely attempts to communicate. Gordo even manages to understand him well enough to successfully play "I Spy" with him.
* NearlyNormalAnimal: Chimps are already pretty humanlike, but Squirrely takes it to the next level.
* UnusuallyUninterestingSight: A chimp tending the cash register at your local game store? No big deal.
!!Croix and Hunter
Bob's Niece and Nephew respectively. Bob occasionally tries to run games for them and sometimes has to borrow Croix's laptop to play World of Hackcraft. Croix has an innocent crush on Dave.
* HeroicComedicSociopath:
--> '''Pete:''' He stole Stevil's wallet and inhaler and crawled into the heating duct.
--> '''Gordo:''' Stevil didn't crawl in after him, did he? I tried that once and he stole my glasses and gave me a reverse wedgie.
--> '''Pete:''' Nah, he's trying to flush him out with the fire extinguisher.
* TheUnintelligible: Though able to understand English very well, Squirrely only speaks in ape noises.
** Lampshaded when Weird Pete - and to a lesser extent, Dave and Gordo - seem to get the gist of everything Squirrely attempts to communicate. Gordo even manages to understand him well enough to successfully play "I Spy" with him.
* NearlyNormalAnimal: Chimps are already pretty humanlike, but Squirrely takes it to the next level.
* UnusuallyUninterestingSight: A chimp tending the cash register at your local game store? No big deal.
!!Croix and Hunter
Bob's Niece and Nephew respectively. Bob occasionally tries to run games for them and sometimes has to borrow Croix's laptop to play World of Hackcraft. Croix has an innocent crush on Dave.
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* BerserkButton: He has several, but they seem TheRoleplayer: Carried to change over time.
* HeroicComedicSociopath:
--> '''Pete:''' He stole Stevil's wallet and inhaler and crawled into the heating duct.
--> '''Gordo:''' Stevil didn't crawl in after him, did he? I triedan extreme that once and he stole my glasses and gave me a reverse wedgie.
--> '''Pete:''' Nah, he's trying to flushmakes him out with intolerable!
* TalkingToThemself: Not in thefire extinguisher.
* TheUnintelligible: Though able to understand English very well, Squirrely only speaks in ape noises.
** Lampshaded when Weird Pete - and tousual way. His elf bard, Raphael Hoolizar, inherited a lesser extent, Dave and Gordo - seem to get the gist of everything Squirrely attempts to communicate. Gordo even manages to understand him well enough to successfully play "I Spy" with him.
* NearlyNormalAnimal: Chimps are already pretty humanlike, but Squirrely takes it to the next level.
* UnusuallyUninterestingSight: A chimp tending the cash register at your local game store? No big deal.
!!Croix and Hunter
brownie familiar (and hand puppet) named Hodgy from Brian.
!! Bob Herzog, Senior
Bob'sNiece and Nephew respectively. Bob father, occasionally tries referenced offscreen as an obstacle to run games for them and sometimes has to borrow Croix's laptop to play World of Hackcraft. Croix has an innocent crush on Dave.Bob's gaming before finally appearing in the comic.
* HeroicComedicSociopath:
--> '''Pete:''' He stole Stevil's wallet and inhaler and crawled into the heating duct.
--> '''Gordo:''' Stevil didn't crawl in after him, did he? I tried
--> '''Pete:''' Nah, he's trying to flush
* TalkingToThemself: Not in the
* TheUnintelligible: Though able to understand English very well, Squirrely only speaks in ape noises.
** Lampshaded when Weird Pete - and to
* NearlyNormalAnimal: Chimps are already pretty humanlike, but Squirrely takes it to the next level.
* UnusuallyUninterestingSight: A chimp tending the cash register at your local game store? No big deal.
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!! Bob Herzog, Senior
Bob's
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* PrecociousCrush: Croix has a crush on Dave. She's probably ten. It makes him a little uncomfortable.
!! Ty Ferfel
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Nitro's nephew. A young gamer that hangs out on the periphery of the community and is often involved in under the table dealings.
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* ConsummateProfessional: He actually is this regards to gaming and is so to the point of being paid as a temp.
!! Earl Slackmozer
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A rival gamemaster who gets a lot of buzz when he first comes to town, having had a module published by Hard 8 (something B.A. has long tried and failed). At first seems to be the superstar but eventually loses his shine and after being humbled, he and B.A. become friends. Earl currently works at Weird Pete's shop.
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* TheAce: At first, in relation to B.A.. Earl is a Gamemaster in high demand and the Knights threaten to leave B.A. for him.
* OutOfFocus: He still has a gaming group in Muncie, but he hasn't featured in any stories to speak of for a while.
* TheRival: BA and he used to be this but BA won the allegiance of the gaming community handsomely.
!! Johnny Kizinski
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A Knight of the Dinner Table who left before the strips began, and has turned up a couple of times to sit in on a few games. The Knights are fond of saying "the man could play" but one day his luck ran out and he left the gaming scene. He moved away, got married, has children and runs a Big Juices. A shameless flirt and an opportunist, his overall mentality highlights how the Knights acted before Sara joined.
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* BornLucky: Until the NoodleIncident when his dice turned on him.
* CasanovaWannabe: And he's married.
* FallenHero: This was the attitude B.A, Bob, Dave and Brian all had toward him before his return to gaming.
!! Switch
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Martin "Switch" Wucjik is Crutch's "friend" and former partner in crime before Crutch went straight. Switch is still a criminal and shown to be disloyal, self serving, and a jerk. He'll commit a crime then sell out his friends for reduced sentences. He's the one who gets Bob to help him plan his heists [[AndYouThoughtItWasAGame letting Bob believe it was for a roleplaying game]].
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* AndYouThoughtItWasAGame: After Bob stumbles on Switch planning a heist and mistakes it for a gaming session, Switch plays along and picks his brain for useful tips.
* AndYouThoughtItWasReal: When Switch stumbles on Tank giving Crutch pointers on gamemastering and overhears casual comments about slitting throats and attacking people with flaming oil, he backs away and gets a drink, thinking that Crutch has fallen in with some stone-cold psycho.
* TheStoolPigeon: After getting caught at the scene of a heist, he gives up Weird Pete (who had filled in for Bob as "game session consultant") to save his own neck. The only reason he doesn't give up Bob is that Bob was too useful to lose.
* TooCleverByHalf: Bob's gaming experience and commitment to roleplaying thieves certainly gives him a good mindset for planning heists but Switch was pushing his luck continuing to rely on Bob. Switch must [[GenreSavvy not be savvy about games]] the way Bob is.
!! Cody Winkle
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Seen at a number of game tables but has never fit in with a group... not even the Black Hands. He's a local actor who likes to use his acting skills at the table and is known for his commitment to story and characterization over game play.
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* TheRoleplayer: Carried to an extreme that makes him intolerable!
* TalkingToThemself: Not in the usual way. His elf bard, Raphael Hoolizar, inherited a brownie familiar (and hand puppet) named Hodgy from Brian.
!! Bob Herzog, Senior
Bob's father, occasionally referenced offscreen as an obstacle to Bob's gaming before finally appearing in the comic.
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!! Ty Ferfel
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Nitro's nephew. A young gamer that hangs out on the periphery of the community and is often involved in under the table dealings.
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* ConsummateProfessional: He actually is this regards to gaming and is so to the point of being paid as a temp.
!! Earl Slackmozer
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A rival gamemaster who gets a lot of buzz when he first comes to town, having had a module published by Hard 8 (something B.A. has long tried and failed). At first seems to be the superstar but eventually loses his shine and after being humbled, he and B.A. become friends. Earl currently works at Weird Pete's shop.
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* TheAce: At first, in relation to B.A.. Earl is a Gamemaster in high demand and the Knights threaten to leave B.A. for him.
* OutOfFocus: He still has a gaming group in Muncie, but he hasn't featured in any stories to speak of for a while.
* TheRival: BA and he used to be this but BA won the allegiance of the gaming community handsomely.
!! Johnny Kizinski
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A Knight of the Dinner Table who left before the strips began, and has turned up a couple of times to sit in on a few games. The Knights are fond of saying "the man could play" but one day his luck ran out and he left the gaming scene. He moved away, got married, has children and runs a Big Juices. A shameless flirt and an opportunist, his overall mentality highlights how the Knights acted before Sara joined.
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* BornLucky: Until the NoodleIncident when his dice turned on him.
* CasanovaWannabe: And he's married.
* FallenHero: This was the attitude B.A, Bob, Dave and Brian all had toward him before his return to gaming.
!! Switch
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Martin "Switch" Wucjik is Crutch's "friend" and former partner in crime before Crutch went straight. Switch is still a criminal and shown to be disloyal, self serving, and a jerk. He'll commit a crime then sell out his friends for reduced sentences. He's the one who gets Bob to help him plan his heists [[AndYouThoughtItWasAGame letting Bob believe it was for a roleplaying game]].
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* AndYouThoughtItWasAGame: After Bob stumbles on Switch planning a heist and mistakes it for a gaming session, Switch plays along and picks his brain for useful tips.
* AndYouThoughtItWasReal: When Switch stumbles on Tank giving Crutch pointers on gamemastering and overhears casual comments about slitting throats and attacking people with flaming oil, he backs away and gets a drink, thinking that Crutch has fallen in with some stone-cold psycho.
* TheStoolPigeon: After getting caught at the scene of a heist, he gives up Weird Pete (who had filled in for Bob as "game session consultant") to save his own neck. The only reason he doesn't give up Bob is that Bob was too useful to lose.
* TooCleverByHalf: Bob's gaming experience and commitment to roleplaying thieves certainly gives him a good mindset for planning heists but Switch was pushing his luck continuing to rely on Bob. Switch must [[GenreSavvy not be savvy about games]] the way Bob is.
!! Cody Winkle
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Seen at a number of game tables but has never fit in with a group... not even the Black Hands. He's a local actor who likes to use his acting skills at the table and is known for his commitment to story and characterization over game play.
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* TheRoleplayer: Carried to an extreme that makes him intolerable!
* TalkingToThemself: Not in the usual way. His elf bard, Raphael Hoolizar, inherited a brownie familiar (and hand puppet) named Hodgy from Brian.
!! Bob Herzog, Senior
Bob's father, occasionally referenced offscreen as an obstacle to Bob's gaming before finally appearing in the comic.
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!! The Knights of the Dinner Table
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The eponymous gaming group. The Knights were first formed when the players were still young, and the charter has a long storied history. The original {{Gamemaster}} was Brian who at one point was running sessions for different sub-chapters of the group every night of the week (typically the same adventure but tweaked for each different group) until Brian suffered a nervous breakdown and handed the game over to Weird Pete.
Eventually, Pete left and B.A. took over and after a couple of subsequent player rotations, the group ended up where it is today. The first comic strips are set shortly after Dave joins the group and Johnny Kizinski quits - so the first strips depict B.A., Bob, Dave and Brian. Sara joined up shortly afterward, giving the group the line-up which it has had through most of the comic's history.
The Knights are a respected "name level" gaming group in Muncie and regularly compete in tournaments with the larger Muncie gaming community. Like most of the other groups, they are very passionate about their game and take it seriously, having among them some of the area's best players.
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The eponymous gaming group. The Knights were first formed when the players were still young, and the charter has a long storied history. The original {{Gamemaster}} was Brian who at one point was running sessions for different sub-chapters of the group every night of the week (typically the same adventure but tweaked for each different group) until Brian suffered a nervous breakdown and handed the game over to Weird Pete.
Eventually, Pete left and B.A. took over and after a couple of subsequent player rotations, the group ended up where it is today. The first comic strips are set shortly after Dave joins the group and Johnny Kizinski quits - so the first strips depict B.A., Bob, Dave and Brian. Sara joined up shortly afterward, giving the group the line-up which it has had through most of the comic's history.
The Knights are a respected "name level" gaming group in Muncie and regularly compete in tournaments with the larger Muncie gaming community. Like most of the other groups, they are very passionate about their game and take it seriously, having among them some of the area's best players.
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!! The Other Groups
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Once the Knightsof stopped being simple gamer stereotypes and started being actual characters, the Dinner Table
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The eponymous gaming group. The Knights were first formed when the players were still young, and the charter has a long storied history. The original {{Gamemaster}} was Brian who at one point was running sessions for different sub-chapters of the group every night of the week (typically the same adventure but tweaked for each different group) until Brian suffered a nervous breakdown and handed the game over to Weird Pete.
Eventually, Pete left and B.A. took over and after a couple of subsequent player rotations, the group ended up where it is today.table. The first comic was the Black Hands.
Another group to gain a lot of focus within the KODT stripsare set shortly after Dave joins to the point where each issue now usually features an ongoing strip with them and they've had their own miniseries. The group consists mostly of preestablished characters with everyone aside from Stevil getting at least a mention prior to the introduction of the Black Hands group. Their main distinctive feature is that they play together because nobody else will have them, so five difficult personalities get together each week and Johnny Kizinski quits - so the first strips depict B.A., Bob, Dave and Brian. Sara joined up shortly afterward, giving the group the line-up which it has had try to tolerate each other long enough to get through most of the comic's history.
The Knights area respected "name level" gaming group in Muncie and regularly compete in tournaments with the larger Muncie gaming community. Like most of the other groups, they are very passionate about their game and take it seriously, having among them some of the area's best players.
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Eventually, Pete left and B.A. took over and after a couple of subsequent player rotations, the group ended up where it is today.
Another group to gain a lot of focus within the KODT strips
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* AxCrazy: Their characters tend to be this due to their hair trigger tempers and pursuit of exp as well as loot.
* BerserkButton: They're all prone to temper but when the players are pissed off with B.A., they tend to tie him up, blindfold him and suspend him upside down above the table for [[CatsAreMean Colonel Prowler]] to torment. He still generally thinks whatever he did to deserve it was [[WorthIt worth the consequences]].
** The Knights have been known to routinely put each other in the hospital over in-game infractions, and even Sara has been known to punch out other members of the group if they go too far. If somebody who ''isn't'' a member of the Knights tries to throw down or actually hurts a member of the team, however, ''[[TrueCompanions God help him]]''.
* ChronicBackstabbingDisorder: The Knights are each other's own worst enemies with Bob and Brian the worst of it. Ironically, Sarah does quite a bit of siding with [=NPCs=] over her own team as well.
* FlatCharacter: In the early installments. Each of the original Knights was whatever the strip called for, but once the series shifted from single episode strips to ongoing story arcs, the Knights each took on their familiar personalities.
* HeroWithBadPublicity: The in-universe Untouchable Trio + One is almost universally reviled in BA's games because of their actions.
* IfYouDieICallYourStuff: Unless there's a [[SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute protege]] to pass the stuff on to, which is the usual assumption.
* MoralMyopia: The Knights believe their characters are great heroes but they're usually up to no good, general lawlessness, and indiscriminate murder.
* ProperlyParanoid: The Knights believe every [=NPC=] and plot hook by BA is an attempt to screw them. The irony is they're not often wrong but because he's so sick of them acting this way.
* OnlySaneMan: BA Felton and Sarah are usually treated as this but both have their own quirks.
* SeriousBusiness: The root of a lot of the comedy. Having the game every week is ''serious'' business. Dice are '''serious''' business. In-game revenge is ''serious business''... and so on.
* {{Slapstick}}: Obviously the violence at the game table is comically over the top. Although the creator has claimed he's had such fights at his table.
* TrueCompanions: They have each others' backs even at the worst of times.
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[[folder: B.A. (Boris Alphonzo) Felton]]
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The current Gamemaster and host. B.A. is a timid individual who still lives with his mother and works as an assistant manager at a local Pizza chain. Nearly all his spare time is spent crafting the "perfect" adventure, which proves an act in futility early in the series run but got better when he grew a backbone and adapted to the habits of his players. While readers are quick to pick up on the players' tendency to derail the game with HackAndSlash, they're slow to notice that B.A. often encourages it. In his campaign, sometimes the old man begging for coins really is a 10th level monk able to summon an army of beggars.
His most notorious [=NPCs=] are Red Gurdy Pickens, a rough and tumble antagonist who just won't die and whom B.A. likes to pull out on occasion to rattle the Knights, and Jonid Coincrawler, a trickster gnome with a track record of bilking the Knights out of their loot.
* BerserkButton: They're all prone to temper but when the players are pissed off with B.A., they tend to tie him up, blindfold him and suspend him upside down above the table for [[CatsAreMean Colonel Prowler]] to torment. He still generally thinks whatever he did to deserve it was [[WorthIt worth the consequences]].
** The Knights have been known to routinely put each other in the hospital over in-game infractions, and even Sara has been known to punch out other members of the group if they go too far. If somebody who ''isn't'' a member of the Knights tries to throw down or actually hurts a member of the team, however, ''[[TrueCompanions God help him]]''.
* ChronicBackstabbingDisorder: The Knights are each other's own worst enemies with Bob and Brian the worst of it. Ironically, Sarah does quite a bit of siding with [=NPCs=] over her own team as well.
* FlatCharacter: In the early installments. Each of the original Knights was whatever the strip called for, but once the series shifted from single episode strips to ongoing story arcs, the Knights each took on their familiar personalities.
* HeroWithBadPublicity: The in-universe Untouchable Trio + One is almost universally reviled in BA's games because of their actions.
* IfYouDieICallYourStuff: Unless there's a [[SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute protege]] to pass the stuff on to, which is the usual assumption.
* MoralMyopia: The Knights believe their characters are great heroes but they're usually up to no good, general lawlessness, and indiscriminate murder.
* ProperlyParanoid: The Knights believe every [=NPC=] and plot hook by BA is an attempt to screw them. The irony is they're not often wrong but because he's so sick of them acting this way.
* OnlySaneMan: BA Felton and Sarah are usually treated as this but both have their own quirks.
* SeriousBusiness: The root of a lot of the comedy. Having the game every week is ''serious'' business. Dice are '''serious''' business. In-game revenge is ''serious business''... and so on.
* {{Slapstick}}: Obviously the violence at the game table is comically over the top. Although the creator has claimed he's had such fights at his table.
* TrueCompanions: They have each others' backs even at the worst of times.
[[/folder]]
[[folder: B.A. (Boris Alphonzo) Felton]]
[[quoteright:200:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/ba_felton.jpg]]
The current Gamemaster and host. B.A. is a timid individual who still lives with his mother and works as an assistant manager at a local Pizza chain. Nearly all his spare time is spent crafting the "perfect" adventure, which proves an act in futility early in the series run but got better when he grew a backbone and adapted to the habits of his players. While readers are quick to pick up on the players' tendency to derail the game with HackAndSlash, they're slow to notice that B.A. often encourages it. In his campaign, sometimes the old man begging for coins really is a 10th level monk able to summon an army of beggars.
His most notorious [=NPCs=] are Red Gurdy Pickens, a rough and tumble antagonist who just won't die and whom B.A. likes to pull out on occasion to rattle the Knights, and Jonid Coincrawler, a trickster gnome with a track record of bilking the Knights out of their loot.
to:
* BerserkButton: They're all prone to temper but when the players are pissed off with B.A., they tend to tie him up, blindfold him and suspend him upside down above the table for [[CatsAreMean Colonel Prowler]] to torment. He still generally thinks whatever he did to deserve it was [[WorthIt worth the consequences]].
** The Knights have been known to routinely put each other in the hospital over in-game infractions, and even Sara has been known to punch out other members of the group if they go too far. If somebody who ''isn't'' a member of the Knights tries to throw down or actually hurts a member of the team, however, ''[[TrueCompanions God help him]]''.
*
* HeroWithBadPublicity: The in-universe Untouchable Trio + One is almost universally reviled in BA's games because
* HumiliationConga: Pulled on each other whenever possible. Institutionalized with the "Hubcap of Shame."
* IfYouDieICallYourStuff:
* MedalOfDishonor: Any member who embarrasses the
* MoralMyopia: The Knights believe their characters are great heroes but they're usually up to no good,
* ProperlyParanoid: The Knights believe every [=NPC=] and plot hook
*
*
* {{Slapstick}}: Obviously the violence at the game table is comically over the top. Although the creator has claimed he's had such fights at his table.
* TrueCompanions: They have
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[[folder: B.A. (Boris Alphonzo) Felton]]
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!!Victor "Nitro" Ferguson
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His most notorious [=NPCs=] are Red Gurdy Pickens, a rough
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* BewareTheNiceOnes: BA is typically very timid but still can show a mean streak in game and has occasional moments of brilliance.
* ButtMonkey: B.A.'s initial relationship with his group was about one step away from battered spouse syndrome. Even in more recent years, a large proportion of the story arcs end with him [[HeroicBSOD staring dumbstruck,]] [[RocksFallEveryoneDies destroying the campaign himself,]] or [[GambitRoulette re-tooling his entire story]] in a desperate effort to save it. Quite often, this leads to accusations of [[RailRoading railroading.]]
* CannotTalkToWomen: This really shows when he’s having dinner with Patty. Amusingly, he’s fine as long as they’re talking about something game-related.
* HonestRollsCharacter: A gnome named Tar Markvar, one of B.A.'s last and most fondly remembered (by him) player characters from before he took over the game.
* {{Railroading}}: Has occasionally been guilty of this but gets accused of it far more often than its actually true. In one egregious example, the heroes were forcibly teleported to a castle, given a quest, and then teleported to the start point before they could engage in disruptive behavior in the castle. They then had to follow the only path in an otherwise impenetrable forest to the dungeon.
** Although ItMakesSenseInContext - the last few times B.A. had started his adventures with the [[GoodIsNotNice heroes]] receiving a mission directly from a king, their immediate response was to attack the king and take all his stuff. After the fifth or sixth adventure crashed and burned during the ''prologue,'' B.A. resorted to the method described above. Astoundingly, [[JerkassHasAPoint the lesson seems to have sunk in.]]
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[[folder: Bob Herzog]]
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Described in his character bios as the first "dues paying" member of the Knights, Bob is a hardcore dedicated hack and slash gamer known for his quick temper and relentless dedication to the game (and considering that gaming is already SeriousBusiness in Muncie, that's saying something). While his in game CatchPhrase is "I waste 'em with my crossbow," his out-of-game motto is "the game must go on." Throughout the series, Bob has told every lie, shirked every responsibility and pulled every trick he can think of to escape any responsibilities and/or entanglements keeping him away from the game table.
This has estranged him more than once from his father and cost him a respectable job as a claims adjuster. He currently works at Weird Pete's game shop, where he gets paid strictly in game product, which he barters with for some basic necessities (read: more game product), but it's his girlfriend Sheila Horowitz who holds down an actual paying job and pays their bills. He tends to prefer playing dwarven thieves wielding crossbows, his best-known being a family line all named Knuckles.
* ButtMonkey: B.A.'s initial relationship with his group was about one step away from battered spouse syndrome. Even in more recent years, a large proportion of the story arcs end with him [[HeroicBSOD staring dumbstruck,]] [[RocksFallEveryoneDies destroying the campaign himself,]] or [[GambitRoulette re-tooling his entire story]] in a desperate effort to save it. Quite often, this leads to accusations of [[RailRoading railroading.]]
* CannotTalkToWomen: This really shows when he’s having dinner with Patty. Amusingly, he’s fine as long as they’re talking about something game-related.
* HonestRollsCharacter: A gnome named Tar Markvar, one of B.A.'s last and most fondly remembered (by him) player characters from before he took over the game.
* {{Railroading}}: Has occasionally been guilty of this but gets accused of it far more often than its actually true. In one egregious example, the heroes were forcibly teleported to a castle, given a quest, and then teleported to the start point before they could engage in disruptive behavior in the castle. They then had to follow the only path in an otherwise impenetrable forest to the dungeon.
** Although ItMakesSenseInContext - the last few times B.A. had started his adventures with the [[GoodIsNotNice heroes]] receiving a mission directly from a king, their immediate response was to attack the king and take all his stuff. After the fifth or sixth adventure crashed and burned during the ''prologue,'' B.A. resorted to the method described above. Astoundingly, [[JerkassHasAPoint the lesson seems to have sunk in.]]
[[/folder]]
[[folder: Bob Herzog]]
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Described in his character bios as the first "dues paying" member of the Knights, Bob is a hardcore dedicated hack and slash gamer known for his quick temper and relentless dedication to the game (and considering that gaming is already SeriousBusiness in Muncie, that's saying something). While his in game CatchPhrase is "I waste 'em with my crossbow," his out-of-game motto is "the game must go on." Throughout the series, Bob has told every lie, shirked every responsibility and pulled every trick he can think of to escape any responsibilities and/or entanglements keeping him away from the game table.
This has estranged him more than once from his father and cost him a respectable job as a claims adjuster. He currently works at Weird Pete's game shop, where he gets paid strictly in game product, which he barters with for some basic necessities (read: more game product), but it's his girlfriend Sheila Horowitz who holds down an actual paying job and pays their bills. He tends to prefer playing dwarven thieves wielding crossbows, his best-known being a family line all named Knuckles.
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* BewareTheNiceOnes: BA is typically very timid AscendedExtra: As with many of the Knights' secondary characters, Nitro was referred to long before he actually appeared in the comic. Nowadays, after the core five and Weird Pete, he's probably the character who appears most.
* BlackAndNerdy: You could be forgiven for not knowing this unless you've spotted Nitro on a cover or in one of the rare colorized strips, but he's black.
* DrillSergeantNasty: At least early on. He's stillcan show a mean streak in game and has occasional moments of brilliance.
* ButtMonkey: B.A.'s initial relationship withtough on his group but has softened a bit.
* EarlyInstallmentWeirdness: Nitro's game-mastering style wasabout one step away ''bizarre'' in his first few appearances.
---> '''Nitro:''' A hole opens up in the floor and somebody rises into view. You realize that it's Andy Warhol. He's accompanied by a panda bear wearing a set of Bermuda shorts made out of an old Nazi flag.
** WordOfGod is that those early Nitro strips stem frombattered spouse syndrome. Even in more recent years, a large proportion of the story arcs end real-life encounter with him [[HeroicBSOD staring dumbstruck,]] [[RocksFallEveryoneDies destroying a guy nicknamed 'Nitro' when the campaign himself,]] or [[GambitRoulette re-tooling his entire story]] in a author was desperate effort to save it. Quite often, this leads get into a D&D game. [[spoiler: It turned out he wasn't desperate enough to accusations of [[RailRoading railroading.put up with THAT.]]
*CannotTalkToWomen: This really shows EstablishingCharacterMoment: When he first enters the comic, even before he enters the ''panel'', [[IncomingHam he immediately sets the tone]]:
--->'''Nitro''': [[Music/TheBeatles I am the walrus! I am the dice man! Goo goo g'joob!]]
* {{Jerkass}}: He is frequently very harsh and abrasive, particularly whenhe’s having dinner with Patty. Amusingly, he’s fine as long as they’re talking about something game-related.
* HonestRollsCharacter: A gnome named Tar Markvar,he's in DrillSergeantNasty mode, but one of especially notable moment is when he gets invited into B.A.'s last and most fondly remembered (by him) player characters from before he took over the game.
* {{Railroading}}: Has occasionally been guilty of this but gets accused of it far more often than its actually true. In one egregious example, the heroes were forcibly teleported togame as a castle, given a quest, and guest NPC. [[spoiler:He then teleported to manipulated Dave into betraying the start point before they could engage in disruptive behavior rest of the party. After a huge battle, everybody in the castle. They then had game, a game that was running for years, was dead and without any chance to follow come back or continue the only path in an otherwise impenetrable forest to the dungeon.
** Although ItMakesSenseInContext - the last few times B.A. had started his adventures with the [[GoodIsNotNice heroes]] receiving a mission directly from a king, their immediate responsestory. The entire table was to attack the king dismayed. Nitro just got up and take all his stuff. After the fifth or sixth adventure crashed and burned during the ''prologue,'' B.A. resorted to the method described above. Astoundingly, [[JerkassHasAPoint the lesson seems to have sunk in.said "Looks like my work here is through".]]
[[/folder]]
[[folder: Bob Herzog]]
[[quoteright:188:https://static.* JerkassHasAPoint: In-universe, Nitro has a lot more respect and control over his games than BA does his. His harsh style works.
!!Weird Pete Ashton
[[quoteright:247:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/bob_herzog.org/pmwiki/pub/images/weird_pete.jpg]]
Described in his character bios as the first "dues paying" member of the Knights, Bob is a hardcore dedicated hack and slash gamer known for his quick temper and relentless dedication to the game (and considering that gaming is already SeriousBusiness in Muncie, that's saying something). While his in game CatchPhrase is "I waste 'em A partner with my crossbow," his out-of-game motto is "the game must go on." Throughout Gary Jackson during the series, Bob has told every lie, shirked every responsibility and pulled every trick he can think transition of to escape any responsibilities and/or entanglements keeping him away Hackmaster from wargame to rpg, Gary bought him out shortly before Hackmaster went to press and he used the game table.
This has estranged him more than once from his father and cost him a respectable job as a claims adjuster. He currently works atmoney to open Weird Pete's Game Pit. The Black Hand's game shop, where he gets paid strictly takes place in game product, which he barters with for some basic necessities (read: more game product), but it's his girlfriend Sheila Horowitz who holds down an actual paying job and pays their bills. He tends to prefer playing dwarven thieves wielding crossbows, his best-known back room. Naturally, being a family line merchant in a struggling industry that is also his primary way of making friends, all named Knuckles.his relationships are complicated by the financial matters surrounding the hobby. When behind the screen, he's a grouchy old school Killer GM.
* BlackAndNerdy: You could be forgiven for not knowing this unless you've spotted Nitro on a cover or in one of the rare colorized strips, but he's black.
* DrillSergeantNasty: At least early on. He's still
* ButtMonkey: B.A.'s initial relationship with
* EarlyInstallmentWeirdness: Nitro's game-mastering style was
---> '''Nitro:''' A hole opens up in the floor and somebody rises into view. You realize that it's Andy Warhol. He's accompanied by a panda bear wearing a set of Bermuda shorts made out of an old Nazi flag.
** WordOfGod is that those early Nitro strips stem from
*
--->'''Nitro''': [[Music/TheBeatles I am the walrus! I am the dice man! Goo goo g'joob!]]
* {{Jerkass}}: He is frequently very harsh and abrasive, particularly when
* HonestRollsCharacter: A gnome named Tar Markvar,
* {{Railroading}}: Has occasionally been guilty of this but gets accused of it far more often than its actually true. In one egregious example, the heroes were forcibly teleported to
** Although ItMakesSenseInContext - the last few times B.A. had started his adventures with the [[GoodIsNotNice heroes]] receiving a mission directly from a king, their immediate response
[[folder: Bob Herzog]]
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!!Weird Pete Ashton
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This has estranged him more than once from his father and cost him a respectable job as a claims adjuster. He currently works at
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* BerserkButton: Don't touch his dice.
* DrunkRolling: During Brian's ''CattlePunk'' campaign, Bob's character has his boots stolen by a local outlaw. Bob then becomes obsessed with stealing a pair of boots off a drunk sleeping in the livery stable. He runs into [[PlethoraOfMistakes all kinds of problems]] and this act will keep [[CantGetAwayWithNothing coming back to haunt him over the course of the campaign]].
* {{Jerkass}}: Not to the extent of Stevil, but still there.
* ManChild: All the Knights have their childish moments, but Bob's got it by far the worst -- he's impulsive, irresponsible and is so terrible at managing his life that he needs someone to do it for him, which he combines with an utter self-centered nature and a NeverMyFault attitude as he refuses to take responsibility for anything and throws tantrums if he doesn't get his way. Patty once told him that he was more difficult than some of her kindergarten students. As the comic goes on, part of his CharacterDevelopment is overcoming this.
* PlayingSick: Bob often resorted to this tactic to avoid his job responsibilities. His irresponsible attitude eventually cost him his job and got him kicked out by his father.
* RandomNumberGod: If such a deity existed, Bob would be its high priest in Muncie. More than the others, he carefully tracks his dice and has names and personalities assigned to them.
* TheSlacker: Blows off any and all responsibilities that interfere with gaming.
* StayInTheKitchen: Seemed to be his attitude towards Sara early on, now inverted living with Sheila. Because she brings home the real paycheck, their home scenes usually show her reading a newspaper in a recliner and him in an apron.
* TheRealMan: Somewhat the way Bob plays all his characters. When playing a dwarven thief, he wields a crossbow and tends to keep on hand a collection of specialized magic bolts for different occasions and he brooks no insult to his honor often to his detriment.
* YoungerThanTheyLook: Bob is only 26 but due to being balding and always wearing glasses he can easily be mistaken for ten or even twenty years older.
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[[folder: Brian VanHoose]]
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Former Gamemaster turned player, Brian is a painfully shy recluse away from the gaming table. He lives partly on an inheritance from his uncle and his dead parents' life insurance policy and partly on revenues from miniatures painting, PC repairs, eBay trading, and extreme frugality. At the table, he's a savant. He has near perfect memory of all rules and revisions to the game, and is a master of advanced gaming tactics.
Brian is able to pull off brilliant maneuvers at the game table and is the single most likely player to turn B.A.'s adventures to his personal advantage (though the other Knights have gotten wise to it). Brian has shown signs at different times of being slightly unhinged, from having an imaginary girlfriend to doing his adventure prep with dolls. He usually plays Dwarven wizards from the Lotus clan, the most well known being nicknamed "Teflon Billy."
* DrunkRolling: During Brian's ''CattlePunk'' campaign, Bob's character has his boots stolen by a local outlaw. Bob then becomes obsessed with stealing a pair of boots off a drunk sleeping in the livery stable. He runs into [[PlethoraOfMistakes all kinds of problems]] and this act will keep [[CantGetAwayWithNothing coming back to haunt him over the course of the campaign]].
* {{Jerkass}}: Not to the extent of Stevil, but still there.
* ManChild: All the Knights have their childish moments, but Bob's got it by far the worst -- he's impulsive, irresponsible and is so terrible at managing his life that he needs someone to do it for him, which he combines with an utter self-centered nature and a NeverMyFault attitude as he refuses to take responsibility for anything and throws tantrums if he doesn't get his way. Patty once told him that he was more difficult than some of her kindergarten students. As the comic goes on, part of his CharacterDevelopment is overcoming this.
* PlayingSick: Bob often resorted to this tactic to avoid his job responsibilities. His irresponsible attitude eventually cost him his job and got him kicked out by his father.
* RandomNumberGod: If such a deity existed, Bob would be its high priest in Muncie. More than the others, he carefully tracks his dice and has names and personalities assigned to them.
* TheSlacker: Blows off any and all responsibilities that interfere with gaming.
* StayInTheKitchen: Seemed to be his attitude towards Sara early on, now inverted living with Sheila. Because she brings home the real paycheck, their home scenes usually show her reading a newspaper in a recliner and him in an apron.
* TheRealMan: Somewhat the way Bob plays all his characters. When playing a dwarven thief, he wields a crossbow and tends to keep on hand a collection of specialized magic bolts for different occasions and he brooks no insult to his honor often to his detriment.
* YoungerThanTheyLook: Bob is only 26 but due to being balding and always wearing glasses he can easily be mistaken for ten or even twenty years older.
[[/folder]]
[[folder: Brian VanHoose]]
[[quoteright:200:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/brian_van_hoose.jpg]]
Former Gamemaster turned player, Brian is a painfully shy recluse away from the gaming table. He lives partly on an inheritance from his uncle and his dead parents' life insurance policy and partly on revenues from miniatures painting, PC repairs, eBay trading, and extreme frugality. At the table, he's a savant. He has near perfect memory of all rules and revisions to the game, and is a master of advanced gaming tactics.
Brian is able to pull off brilliant maneuvers at the game table and is the single most likely player to turn B.A.'s adventures to his personal advantage (though the other Knights have gotten wise to it). Brian has shown signs at different times of being slightly unhinged, from having an imaginary girlfriend to doing his adventure prep with dolls. He usually plays Dwarven wizards from the Lotus clan, the most well known being nicknamed "Teflon Billy."
to:
* BerserkButton: Don't touch his dice.
* DrunkRolling: During Brian's ''CattlePunk'' campaign, Bob's character has his boots stolen by a local outlaw. Bob thenDrunkWithPower: Any kind of power seems to go to Weird Pete's head. He becomes obsessed a petty tyrant when running a campaign (or even just sitting in as a temporary GM on someone else's) - handing out demerits at the drop of a hat for infringing rules he has just made up - and he runs the Gamers Court as a HangingJudge.
* EverythingIsTryingToKillYou: His campaign setting (no doubt inspired by early Gygax material) is so difficult to survive in that nobody has ever made it past third level.
* {{Expy}}: Is one for Dave Arneson withstealing a pair of boots off a drunk sleeping in the livery stable. He runs into [[PlethoraOfMistakes all kinds of problems]] and this act will keep [[CantGetAwayWithNothing coming back to haunt him over the course lot of the campaign]].
* {{Jerkass}}: Not toactual Gary Gygax (more than Gary Jackson at least). He even made the extent equivalent of Stevil, but still there.
* ManChild: Allthe Knights have their childish moments, but Bob's got it by far the worst -- ''Tomb of Horrors.''
* HonestJohnsDealership: Often fast-talks customers (usually B.A.) into buying whatever he'simpulsive, irresponsible and is so terrible trying to unload at managing his life that he needs someone to do it for him, which he combines with an utter self-centered nature and a NeverMyFault attitude as he refuses to take responsibility for anything and throws tantrums if he doesn't get his way. Patty once told him that he was more difficult than some of her kindergarten students. As the comic goes on, part moment, regardless of his CharacterDevelopment its quality or usefulness.
* JudicialWig: Pete wears whenever he isovercoming this.
* PlayingSick: Bob often resorted topresiding as judge at Gamer Court. It is not known if judges in other Gamer Courts also do this, or if this tactic to avoid his job responsibilities. His irresponsible attitude eventually cost him his job is just another example of Pete's fondness for theatrics and got him kicked out by his father.
formal trappings.
*RandomNumberGod: If such a deity existed, Bob would be its high priest in Muncie. More KillerGM: Moreso than the others, he carefully tracks his dice and has names and personalities assigned to them.
* TheSlacker: Blows off any and all responsibilities that interfere with gaming.
* StayInTheKitchen: Seemed to be his attitude towards Sara early on, now inverted living with Sheila. Because she brings home the real paycheck, their home scenes usually show her reading a newspaper in a recliner and him in an apron.
* TheRealMan: Somewhat the way Bob plays all his characters. When playing a dwarven thief, he wields a crossbow and tends to keep on hand a collection of specialized magic bolts for different occasions and he brooks no insult to his honor often to his detriment.
* YoungerThanTheyLook: Bob is only 26 but due to being balding andothers. And he's always wearing glasses eager to get behind the screen again when the trauma of the previous campaign has healed.
---> '''Nitro:''' "Actually, I was just thinking he's mellowed. [[OffscreenMomentOfAwesome In the old days, hecan easily be mistaken didn't give warnings.]]"
* StopHavingFunGuys: He's an old school gamer who is vocal in his belief that newer games suck. In one strip, a newbie gamer at the Games Pit outlines his reasons forten or even twenty years older.
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[[folder: Brian VanHoose]]
not liking Hackmaster, prompting Pete to launch into a lecture about what's wrong with the newbie's attitude, not noticing that his would-be customer has left partway through the rant.
!!Steven "Stevil" Van Hostle
[[quoteright:200:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/brian_van_hoose.org/pmwiki/pub/images/stevil.jpg]]
Former Gamemaster turned player, Brian Also known as "Evil Stevil" and "Bitter Stevil." Stevil is a painfully shy recluse away from the gaming table. He lives partly on an inheritance from his uncle and his dead parents' life insurance policy and partly on revenues from miniatures painting, PC repairs, eBay trading, and extreme frugality. At the table, he's a savant. He has near perfect memory of all rules and revisions to the game, and is a master of advanced gaming tactics.
Brian is able to pull off brilliant maneuversprickly individual who unleashes pent up office frustrations at the game table and is the single most likely player table. He has to turn B.A.'s adventures commute from Indianapolis to gaming nights, leading to his personal advantage (though frequent complaint "I can't believe I drove forty frickin' miles for THIS!" Newt has rubbed him the other Knights have gotten wise to it). Brian has shown signs at different times of being slightly unhinged, wrong way from having day one, leading to an imaginary girlfriend to doing his adventure prep with dolls. He usually plays Dwarven wizards from the Lotus clan, the most well known being nicknamed "Teflon Billy." escalating vengeance war between them.
* DrunkRolling: During Brian's ''CattlePunk'' campaign, Bob's character has his boots stolen by a local outlaw. Bob then
* EverythingIsTryingToKillYou: His campaign setting (no doubt inspired by early Gygax material) is so difficult to survive in that nobody has ever made it past third level.
* {{Expy}}: Is one for Dave Arneson with
* {{Jerkass}}: Not to
* ManChild: All
* HonestJohnsDealership: Often fast-talks customers (usually B.A.) into buying whatever he's
* JudicialWig: Pete wears whenever he is
* PlayingSick: Bob often resorted to
*
* TheSlacker: Blows off any and all responsibilities that interfere with gaming.
* StayInTheKitchen: Seemed to be his attitude towards Sara early on, now inverted living with Sheila. Because she brings home the real paycheck, their home scenes usually show her reading a newspaper in a recliner and him in an apron.
* TheRealMan: Somewhat the way Bob plays all his characters. When playing a dwarven thief, he wields a crossbow and tends to keep on hand a collection of specialized magic bolts for different occasions and he brooks no insult to his honor often to his detriment.
* YoungerThanTheyLook: Bob is only 26 but due to being balding and
---> '''Nitro:''' "Actually, I was just thinking he's mellowed. [[OffscreenMomentOfAwesome In the old days, he
* StopHavingFunGuys: He's an old school gamer who is vocal in his belief that newer games suck. In one strip, a newbie gamer at the Games Pit outlines his reasons for
[[/folder]]
[[folder: Brian VanHoose]]
!!Steven "Stevil" Van Hostle
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Brian is able to pull off brilliant maneuvers
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* BerserkButton: Don't mention his imaginary girlfriend. In this and other instances he has been prone to flipping the table though more recently the Knights have called him out on it and apparently he's had to go to anger management counseling offscreen.
* BigEater: For instance, he caused the group to lose its refrigerator privileges at B.A.'s house by eating a casserole that was meant to feed a dozen people at an upcoming family reunion.
* CannotTalkToWomen / CannotSpitItOut: So badly that even B.A. pities him. Brian is terrible at talking to women about anything not game-related, to the point where Sheila gets revenge on him by locking him in a room with Creator/FeliciaDay.
* TheChessmaster: Oh, so much.
* CrazyPrepared: Both in and out of game. For example, he swallows a ring of teleportation every morning and has copies of his most essential spells [[HumanNotepad tattooed on the backs of his teammates]]. Out of game, in order to be prepared for the possibility of one of his characters acquiring a wish, he hired a paralegal to help him draft an ironclad multipage wish containing clauses and precise wording to account for any way a JerkassGenie might try to screw him over. In the end, B.A. and an entire team of his fellow Gamemasters couldn't find a loophole to deny him his wish but his new immortal status made it legal for a deity he'd pissed off to destroy him. Even then a clause in the wish undid all of the consequences of the wish and gave him a 25,000 gold piece consolation prize.
* CripplingOverspecialization: Brian knows how to play wizards. Brian ''really'' knows how to play wizards. When the group started a campaign where everyone had to go outside their comfort zone and he wound up playing a fighter, he loaded the character up with proficiency with siege weapons like catapults and ballistas (which the party had no access to) in an attempt to emulate the normal long-ranged devastation he normally could inflict as a wizard, but neglected to take even rudimentary skill with any melee weapons.
* TheDreaded: He has earned ''quite'' a reputation in the gaming community.
* ExplosiveStupidity: When something angers him in-game, he has an extreme tendency to fireball first and check things like "is the room we're in large enough to contain a fireball without hitting the party" or "are we on the third floor of a building made entirely of wood" later. This has led to a few total party kills.
* GirlfriendInCanada: As noted above, challenging him on this point is his BerserkButton, so the other Knights avoid mentioning the issue unless one of them is being [[TooDumbToLive particularly stupid]].
** He's actually got ''two'' of them. There's a Christmas strip where the Knights are discussing their holiday plans, and Brian insists that he'll be spending Christmas with his uncle, out of town. At the end of the strip, we see his ''actual'' holiday plans: he's alone at his house, eating popcorn and watching a ''James Bond'' marathon on basic cable.
* {{Greed}}: This, above everything, is Brian's FatalFlaw. Whenever his plans fail, it's almost always because he couldn't leave well enough alone and wanted to grab a bigger piece of the pie.
* JerkAss: Played with. In general, away from the table, Brian is endearingly loyal to his gaming buddies, unless of course we're talking about [[TheDreaded Prowler.]] In-game he is essentially a JerkWithAHeartOfJerk played for comedy.
* NeverMyFault: While he doesn't throw tantrums about it the way Bob might, Brian is quick to blame everyone else when something goes wrong, even if it's blatantly obvious that it's all his fault. He's always ready to employ his RulesLawyer nature to device speeches on why he's completely blameless and it's everyone else who's being unreasonable.
* PetTheDog: Even in game, his characters show lots of sympathy to animals. B.A. even exploited this with Hannibal the violent pack ape.
* RememberedTooLate: Brian is sometimes prone to this. For example, one his plans to win a ''Car Wars'' style game culminated in him ejecting from his vehicle and flying away on a collapsible hang glider as his vehicle exploded in an enormous fireball, relying on his fireproof suit to keep him safe. One of the other players then pointed out that while his suit was fireproof, the hang glider wasn't. Cue Brian's character plummeting into the ground.
* RulesLawyer: One of the clearest examples in fiction.
* ShrinkingViolet: If not with his friends and away from game, he withdraws completely into himself.
* TheScrooge: One could say he is MinMaxing his finances.
* TheStoic: B.A. notes that Brian is a very difficult person to read, seeming largely impassive except for a [[PutTheLaughterInSlaughter harsh belly-laugh when he throws a fireball at a target he knows he can crush]], when he {{Mood Whiplash}}es into a [[FlippingTheTable Table Flipping]] rage, or incoherent blubbering when he has to [[CannotTalkToWomen talk to a girl outside a gaming context]].
* TooCleverByHalf: Usually when Brian's plans fail, it's because of this and his ever-present {{Greed}}. He tries to squeeze every advantage out of a situation and will eventually forget an obscure rule or variable (or leave his friends out.)
* XanatosGambit: [[CrazyPrepared Has one for every situation imaginable]]. He also seems to live by the creed that if the party cannot win, Lotus WILL at least gain some benefits from their defeat.
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[[folder: Sara Felton]]
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An accomplished roleplayer even before joining the Knights, Sara was invited to the table because she is B.A.'s cousin. This, and the fact that she's, well, [[MostGamersAreMale a woman]] made her a hard sell at the Knights table. It didn't help that when they wanted to slaughter Orcs, she wanted to parley with them. After a lot of conflict in the early strips, Sara has grown to accept the group and they in turn accepted her.
* BigEater: For instance, he caused the group to lose its refrigerator privileges at B.A.'s house by eating a casserole that was meant to feed a dozen people at an upcoming family reunion.
* CannotTalkToWomen / CannotSpitItOut: So badly that even B.A. pities him. Brian is terrible at talking to women about anything not game-related, to the point where Sheila gets revenge on him by locking him in a room with Creator/FeliciaDay.
* TheChessmaster: Oh, so much.
* CrazyPrepared: Both in and out of game. For example, he swallows a ring of teleportation every morning and has copies of his most essential spells [[HumanNotepad tattooed on the backs of his teammates]]. Out of game, in order to be prepared for the possibility of one of his characters acquiring a wish, he hired a paralegal to help him draft an ironclad multipage wish containing clauses and precise wording to account for any way a JerkassGenie might try to screw him over. In the end, B.A. and an entire team of his fellow Gamemasters couldn't find a loophole to deny him his wish but his new immortal status made it legal for a deity he'd pissed off to destroy him. Even then a clause in the wish undid all of the consequences of the wish and gave him a 25,000 gold piece consolation prize.
* CripplingOverspecialization: Brian knows how to play wizards. Brian ''really'' knows how to play wizards. When the group started a campaign where everyone had to go outside their comfort zone and he wound up playing a fighter, he loaded the character up with proficiency with siege weapons like catapults and ballistas (which the party had no access to) in an attempt to emulate the normal long-ranged devastation he normally could inflict as a wizard, but neglected to take even rudimentary skill with any melee weapons.
* TheDreaded: He has earned ''quite'' a reputation in the gaming community.
* ExplosiveStupidity: When something angers him in-game, he has an extreme tendency to fireball first and check things like "is the room we're in large enough to contain a fireball without hitting the party" or "are we on the third floor of a building made entirely of wood" later. This has led to a few total party kills.
* GirlfriendInCanada: As noted above, challenging him on this point is his BerserkButton, so the other Knights avoid mentioning the issue unless one of them is being [[TooDumbToLive particularly stupid]].
** He's actually got ''two'' of them. There's a Christmas strip where the Knights are discussing their holiday plans, and Brian insists that he'll be spending Christmas with his uncle, out of town. At the end of the strip, we see his ''actual'' holiday plans: he's alone at his house, eating popcorn and watching a ''James Bond'' marathon on basic cable.
* {{Greed}}: This, above everything, is Brian's FatalFlaw. Whenever his plans fail, it's almost always because he couldn't leave well enough alone and wanted to grab a bigger piece of the pie.
* JerkAss: Played with. In general, away from the table, Brian is endearingly loyal to his gaming buddies, unless of course we're talking about [[TheDreaded Prowler.]] In-game he is essentially a JerkWithAHeartOfJerk played for comedy.
* NeverMyFault: While he doesn't throw tantrums about it the way Bob might, Brian is quick to blame everyone else when something goes wrong, even if it's blatantly obvious that it's all his fault. He's always ready to employ his RulesLawyer nature to device speeches on why he's completely blameless and it's everyone else who's being unreasonable.
* PetTheDog: Even in game, his characters show lots of sympathy to animals. B.A. even exploited this with Hannibal the violent pack ape.
* RememberedTooLate: Brian is sometimes prone to this. For example, one his plans to win a ''Car Wars'' style game culminated in him ejecting from his vehicle and flying away on a collapsible hang glider as his vehicle exploded in an enormous fireball, relying on his fireproof suit to keep him safe. One of the other players then pointed out that while his suit was fireproof, the hang glider wasn't. Cue Brian's character plummeting into the ground.
* RulesLawyer: One of the clearest examples in fiction.
* ShrinkingViolet: If not with his friends and away from game, he withdraws completely into himself.
* TheScrooge: One could say he is MinMaxing his finances.
* TheStoic: B.A. notes that Brian is a very difficult person to read, seeming largely impassive except for a [[PutTheLaughterInSlaughter harsh belly-laugh when he throws a fireball at a target he knows he can crush]], when he {{Mood Whiplash}}es into a [[FlippingTheTable Table Flipping]] rage, or incoherent blubbering when he has to [[CannotTalkToWomen talk to a girl outside a gaming context]].
* TooCleverByHalf: Usually when Brian's plans fail, it's because of this and his ever-present {{Greed}}. He tries to squeeze every advantage out of a situation and will eventually forget an obscure rule or variable (or leave his friends out.)
* XanatosGambit: [[CrazyPrepared Has one for every situation imaginable]]. He also seems to live by the creed that if the party cannot win, Lotus WILL at least gain some benefits from their defeat.
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[[folder: Sara Felton]]
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An accomplished roleplayer even before joining the Knights, Sara was invited to the table because she is B.A.'s cousin. This, and the fact that she's, well, [[MostGamersAreMale a woman]] made her a hard sell at the Knights table. It didn't help that when they wanted to slaughter Orcs, she wanted to parley with them. After a lot of conflict in the early strips, Sara has grown to accept the group and they in turn accepted her.
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* BerserkButton: Don't mention his imaginary girlfriend. In this and other instances he has been prone to flipping the table though more recently the Knights have called him out on it and apparently he's had to go to anger management counseling offscreen.
* BigEater: For instance, he caused the group to lose its refrigerator privileges at B.A.'s house by eating a casserole that was meant to feed a dozen people at an upcoming family reunion.
* CannotTalkToWomen / CannotSpitItOut: So badly that even B.A. pities him. Brian is terrible at talking to women about anything not game-related, to the point where Sheila gets revenge on him by locking him in a room with Creator/FeliciaDay.
CatchPhrase: "I can't believe I drove forty fricking miles for '''this!"'''
* TheChessmaster:Oh, so much.
* CrazyPrepared: Both in and out of game. For example,The "loan arrangement" he swallows a ring of teleportation every morning and has copies of his most essential spells [[HumanNotepad tattooed on the backs of his teammates]]. Out of game, in order to be prepared for the possibility of one of his characters acquiring a wish, he hired a paralegal to help him draft an ironclad multipage wish containing clauses and precise wording to account for any way a JerkassGenie might try to screw him over. In the end, B.A. and an entire team of his fellow Gamemasters couldn't find a loophole to deny him his wish but his new immortal status made it legal for a deity he'd pissed off to destroy him. Even then a clause in the wish undid all of the consequences of the wish and gave him a 25,000 gold piece consolation prize.
* CripplingOverspecialization: Brian knows how to play wizards. Brian ''really'' knows how to play wizards. When the group started a campaign where everyone had to go outside their comfort zone and he wound up playing a fighter, he loaded the character upwith proficiency with siege weapons like catapults and ballistas Newt (which the party had no access to) in an attempt to emulate the normal long-ranged devastation he normally could inflict as involved a wizard, but neglected to take even rudimentary skill contract with any melee weapons.
* TheDreaded:fine print and a gawd oath) to make Newt his permanent slave. He has earned ''quite'' a reputation eventually gets OutGambitted though.
* TheComicallySerious: Even in universe. The whole reason Nitro decides to let Newt stay is because he likes how Newt treats Stevil. But thegaming community.
* ExplosiveStupidity: When something angers him in-game, he has an extreme tendencycrowning example comes during their Cattlepunk game when Stevil is forced to fireball first and check things like "is the room we're in large enough to contain wear a fireball without hitting the party" or "are we on the third floor of a building made entirely of wood" later. This has led to a few total party kills.
* GirlfriendInCanada: As noted above, challenging him on this pointgiant sombrero. He is his BerserkButton, so the other Knights avoid mentioning the issue unless not happy about this.
* DeadpanSnarker: And a vicious oneof them at that.
* EvilCounterpart: Stevil isbeing [[TooDumbToLive particularly stupid]].
** He's actually got ''two'' of them. There's a Christmasbasically Bob if you strip where the Knights are discussing their holiday plans, away Bob's nice traits and Brian insists that he'll be spending Christmas with his uncle, out throw in a dash of town. At the end of the strip, we see his ''actual'' holiday plans: he's alone at his house, eating popcorn and watching a ''James Bond'' marathon on basic cable.
* {{Greed}}: This, above everything, isBrian's FatalFlaw. Whenever his plans fail, it's almost always because scheming.
* JerkWithAHeartOfJerk: Stevil may seem like a total JerkAss, but as you get to know him better, you realize that deep, deep down, hecouldn't leave well enough alone and wanted really is a total JerkAss.
* KickTheDog: Drew complaints of this early on as he tended tograb pick on Newt a bigger piece of the pie.
* JerkAss: Played with. In general, away from the table, Brian is endearingly loyal to his gaming buddies, unless of course we're talking about [[TheDreaded Prowler.]] In-game he is essentially a JerkWithAHeartOfJerk playedlot with little provocation, but Newt more than makes up for comedy.
* NeverMyFault: While he doesn't throw tantrums aboutit the way Bob might, Brian is quick to blame by arranging bail for everyone else BUT Stevil later on.
--> '''Stevil:''' That big guy in holding cell three made me dance for ''twenty hours straight!''
* OnlySaneMan: Oddly Stevil seems to fill this role for the Black Hands, especially whensomething goes wrong, even if it's blatantly obvious that it's all his fault. He's always ready it comes to employ his RulesLawyer nature dealing with situations outside of gaming. His reaction to device speeches on why he's completely blameless and it's everyone else who's being unreasonable.
listening a bunch of gamers planning to invest in gold (in the real world) is priceless.
* PetTheDog:Even in game, In his characters show lots of sympathy to animals. B.A. even exploited this with Hannibal the violent pack ape.
* RememberedTooLate: Brian is sometimes prone to this. For example, one his plans to win a ''Car Wars'' style game culminated in him ejecting from his vehicle and flying away on a collapsible hang glider as his vehicle exploded in an enormous fireball, relying on his fireproof suit to keep him safe. One of the other players then pointed out that while his suit was fireproof, the hang glider wasn't. Cue Brian's character plummeting into the ground.
* RulesLawyer: One of the clearest examples in fiction.
* ShrinkingViolet: If not with his friends and away from game, he withdraws completely into himself.
* TheScrooge: One could say he is MinMaxing his finances.
* TheStoic: B.A. notes that Brian is a very difficult person to read, seeming largely impassive except for a [[PutTheLaughterInSlaughter harsh belly-laugh when he throws a fireball at a target he knows he can crush]], when he {{Mood Whiplash}}es into a [[FlippingTheTable Table Flipping]] rage, or incoherent blubbering when he has to [[CannotTalkToWomen talk to a girl outside a gaming context]].
* TooCleverByHalf: Usually when Brian's plans fail, it's because of this and his ever-present {{Greed}}. He tries to squeeze every advantage out of a situation and will eventually forget an obscure rule or variable (or leave his friends out.)
* XanatosGambit: [[CrazyPrepared Has one for every situation imaginable]]. He alsokinder moments, Stevil seems to live by regard Nitro or Pete (whichever of them is not [=GMing=]) as a partner against the creed that if real enemies; Newt and the party cannot win, Lotus WILL at least gain GM.
* PunnyName: His last name can be read as a mutation of "hostile." And Stevil certainly is.
* TheSmartGuy: He may be an unrepentant {{Jerkass}}, but there's no denying his intelligence. He's come up with somebenefits from their defeat.
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[[folder: Sara Felton]]
[[quoteright:212:https://static.pretty devious plans over the years, at one point point even [[spoiler:beating the Temple of Horrendous Doom!]]
!!Gordo Sheckberry
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An accomplished roleplayer even before joiningorg/pmwiki/pub/images/gordo.jpg]]
A former chemist on permanent disability after getting in an accident at work. Between workers' comp and disability, Gordo now has all theKnights, Sara was invited time and money he needs to dedicate himself to gaming. Gordo is obnoxious in a very different way than the table because she is B.A.'s cousin. This, and rest of the fact that she's, well, [[MostGamersAreMale Black Hands: he's a woman]] made her a hard sell at the Knights table. It didn't help that when they wanted to slaughter Orcs, she wanted to parley dedicated deep-immersion role player with them. After a lot vast fund of conflict in long, rambling character stories; a "frightening" mastery of fairy lore; and a complete inability to sense the early strips, Sara has grown to accept the group and they in turn accepted her.comfort zones of his fellow gamers.
* BigEater: For instance, he caused the group to lose its refrigerator privileges at B.A.'s house by eating a casserole that was meant to feed a dozen people at an upcoming family reunion.
* CannotTalkToWomen / CannotSpitItOut: So badly that even B.A. pities him. Brian is terrible at talking to women about anything not game-related, to the point where Sheila gets revenge on him by locking him in a room with Creator/FeliciaDay.
* TheChessmaster:
* CrazyPrepared: Both in and out of game. For example,
* CripplingOverspecialization: Brian knows how to play wizards. Brian ''really'' knows how to play wizards. When the group started a campaign where everyone had to go outside their comfort zone and he wound up playing a fighter, he loaded the character up
* TheDreaded:
* TheComicallySerious: Even in universe. The whole reason Nitro decides to let Newt stay is because he likes how Newt treats Stevil. But the
* ExplosiveStupidity: When something angers him in-game, he has an extreme tendency
* GirlfriendInCanada: As noted above, challenging him on this point
* DeadpanSnarker: And a vicious one
* EvilCounterpart: Stevil is
** He's actually got ''two'' of them. There's a Christmas
* {{Greed}}: This, above everything, is
* JerkWithAHeartOfJerk: Stevil may seem like a total JerkAss, but as you get to know him better, you realize that deep, deep down, he
* KickTheDog: Drew complaints of this early on as he tended to
* JerkAss: Played with. In general, away from the table, Brian is endearingly loyal to his gaming buddies, unless of course we're talking about [[TheDreaded Prowler.]] In-game he is essentially a JerkWithAHeartOfJerk played
* NeverMyFault: While he doesn't throw tantrums about
--> '''Stevil:''' That big guy in holding cell three made me dance for ''twenty hours straight!''
* OnlySaneMan: Oddly Stevil seems to fill this role for the Black Hands, especially when
* PetTheDog:
* RememberedTooLate: Brian is sometimes prone to this. For example, one his plans to win a ''Car Wars'' style game culminated in him ejecting from his vehicle and flying away on a collapsible hang glider as his vehicle exploded in an enormous fireball, relying on his fireproof suit to keep him safe. One of the other players then pointed out that while his suit was fireproof, the hang glider wasn't. Cue Brian's character plummeting into the ground.
* RulesLawyer: One of the clearest examples in fiction.
* ShrinkingViolet: If not with his friends and away from game, he withdraws completely into himself.
* TheScrooge: One could say he is MinMaxing his finances.
* TheStoic: B.A. notes that Brian is a very difficult person to read, seeming largely impassive except for a [[PutTheLaughterInSlaughter harsh belly-laugh when he throws a fireball at a target he knows he can crush]], when he {{Mood Whiplash}}es into a [[FlippingTheTable Table Flipping]] rage, or incoherent blubbering when he has to [[CannotTalkToWomen talk to a girl outside a gaming context]].
* TooCleverByHalf: Usually when Brian's plans fail, it's because of this and his ever-present {{Greed}}. He tries to squeeze every advantage out of a situation and will eventually forget an obscure rule or variable (or leave his friends out.)
* XanatosGambit: [[CrazyPrepared Has one for every situation imaginable]]. He also
* PunnyName: His last name can be read as a mutation of "hostile." And Stevil certainly is.
* TheSmartGuy: He may be an unrepentant {{Jerkass}}, but there's no denying his intelligence. He's come up with some
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[[folder: Sara Felton]]
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!!Gordo Sheckberry
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An accomplished roleplayer even before joining
A former chemist on permanent disability after getting in an accident at work. Between workers' comp and disability, Gordo now has all the
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* BerserkButton: Sexist remarks and unwanted flirting will quickly earn you a [[AngryCollarGrab threatening shirt grab]] and, if you don't learn your lesson, a black eye.
* CloserToEarth: At least until other characters were introduced. She was the straight woman to the idiocy of the male players.
* CrossPlaying: She forced this on the Knights early in the series leading to the creation of a monster in the form of Boberella. She also chose to play a male character when B.A. pushed the group to create new ones outside [[ComplacentGamingSyndrome their usual race/class template]].
* FriendToAllChildren: Sara always seems to get on pretty well with children (like the Pee Wee TabletopGame/HackMaster League). Except for the [[HormoneAddledTeenager two 13-year olds]] at Gary Con, that is.
* NotSoAboveItAll: Even Sara takes dice superstitions seriously. As you'll see from the entry for RandomNumberGod on the main page, she's probably wise to do so. She's also occasionally been known to turn "evil" (i.e. against the group) to dole out righteous retribution against the other Knights, once or twice becoming the antagonist for a story arc. She's often visibly amused when one of the other characters suffers [[LaserGuidedKarma the consequences]] of their [[LeeroyJenkins actions.]]
* TheRoleplayer: To the point of occasionally being Ms. StopHavingFunGuys in the earlier strips, but these days she tends to just create characters who's natural inclinations fit better with her adventuring party, as most good roleplayers do.
* TheSmurfettePrinciple: The only woman at the table. Although she's [[TheRoleplayer far more compassionate toward NPCs]] than the [[RuleOfFunny doofuses]] at her table, [[BewareTheNiceOnes Sara herself has been known to show a mean streak]].
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[[folder: Dave Bozwell]]
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* CloserToEarth: At least until other characters were introduced. She was the straight woman to the idiocy of the male players.
* CrossPlaying: She forced this on the Knights early in the series leading to the creation of a monster in the form of Boberella. She also chose to play a male character when B.A. pushed the group to create new ones outside [[ComplacentGamingSyndrome their usual race/class template]].
* FriendToAllChildren: Sara always seems to get on pretty well with children (like the Pee Wee TabletopGame/HackMaster League). Except for the [[HormoneAddledTeenager two 13-year olds]] at Gary Con, that is.
* NotSoAboveItAll: Even Sara takes dice superstitions seriously. As you'll see from the entry for RandomNumberGod on the main page, she's probably wise to do so. She's also occasionally been known to turn "evil" (i.e. against the group) to dole out righteous retribution against the other Knights, once or twice becoming the antagonist for a story arc. She's often visibly amused when one of the other characters suffers [[LaserGuidedKarma the consequences]] of their [[LeeroyJenkins actions.]]
* TheRoleplayer: To the point of occasionally being Ms. StopHavingFunGuys in the earlier strips, but these days she tends to just create characters who's natural inclinations fit better with her adventuring party, as most good roleplayers do.
* TheSmurfettePrinciple: The only woman at the table. Although she's [[TheRoleplayer far more compassionate toward NPCs]] than the [[RuleOfFunny doofuses]] at her table, [[BewareTheNiceOnes Sara herself has been known to show a mean streak]].
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[[folder: Dave Bozwell]]
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* BerserkButton: Sexist remarks and unwanted flirting will quickly earn you a [[AngryCollarGrab threatening shirt grab]] and, if you don't learn your lesson, a black eye.
* CloserToEarth: At least until other characters were introduced. She was the straight woman to the idiocy of the male players.
* CrossPlaying: She forced this on the Knights early in the series leading to the creation of a monster in the form of Boberella. She also chose to play a male character when B.A. pushed the group to create new ones outside [[ComplacentGamingSyndrome their usual race/class template]].
* FriendToAllChildren: Sara always seems to get onCampStraight: His orientation is pretty well ambiguous, though in one strip he does discuss his 'dream woman' with children (like the Pee Wee TabletopGame/HackMaster League). Except for the [[HormoneAddledTeenager two 13-year olds]] at Gary Con, that is.
* NotSoAboveItAll: Even Sara takes dice superstitions seriously. As you'll see from the entry for RandomNumberGod on the main page, she's probably wise to do so. She's also occasionally been known to turn "evil" (i.e. against the group) to dole out righteous retribution against the other Knights, once or twice becoming the antagonist for a story arc. She's often visibly amused when onesome of the other Black Hands.
* CrossPlayer: The trope that embodied Gordo till CharacterDevelopment ensued. His introduction was as an off panel reference to what happens to players that crossplay (as the Knights were about to have to.)
* NiceGuy: He is one of the most genuinely nice characterssuffers [[LaserGuidedKarma in the consequences]] of their [[LeeroyJenkins actions.]]
entire comic. Even being constantly picked on by the other players makes him more upset than angry.
* TheRoleplayer:To Gordo embodies some of the point more negative aspects of occasionally being Ms. StopHavingFunGuys in the earlier strips, but these days she tends to just create trope: he has a long history of creating ineffective characters who's natural inclinations fit better with her adventuring party, as most good roleplayers do.
* TheSmurfettePrinciple: The only woman atand placing their welfare ahead of the table. Although she's [[TheRoleplayer far more compassionate toward NPCs]] than the [[RuleOfFunny doofuses]] at her table, [[BewareTheNiceOnes Sara herself has been known to show a mean streak]].
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[[folder: Dave Bozwell]]
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!!Newt Forager
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* CloserToEarth: At least until other characters were introduced. She was the straight woman to the idiocy of the male players.
* CrossPlaying: She forced this on the Knights early in the series leading to the creation of a monster in the form of Boberella. She also chose to play a male character when B.A. pushed the group to create new ones outside [[ComplacentGamingSyndrome their usual race/class template]].
* FriendToAllChildren: Sara always seems to get on
* NotSoAboveItAll: Even Sara takes dice superstitions seriously. As you'll see from the entry for RandomNumberGod on the main page, she's probably wise to do so. She's also occasionally been known to turn "evil" (i.e. against the group) to dole out righteous retribution against the other Knights, once or twice becoming the antagonist for a story arc. She's often visibly amused when one
* CrossPlayer: The trope that embodied Gordo till CharacterDevelopment ensued. His introduction was as an off panel reference to what happens to players that crossplay (as the Knights were about to have to.)
* NiceGuy: He is one of the most genuinely nice characters
* TheRoleplayer:
* TheSmurfettePrinciple: The only woman at
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[[folder: Dave Bozwell]]
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!!Newt Forager
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The naïve newcomer of the group though only the second newest member of the group behind Sara. Dave was brought in by Bob back in their college days and immediately took to playing fighters with the biggest swords he can get his hands on. Typically the Ditz, Dave has his moments of brilliance and the writers have explained that he's actually not that dumb, he's just really laid back. Dave's iconic character is a fighter named El Ravager with a Hackmaster +12 sword.
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* BadLiar: He has no poker face whatsoever. This actually becomes a plot point when Bob and Dave want to conceal their in-game plans from Brian and Sara - Dave actually has to wear a paper bag on his head so they can't glean anything from his expression.
* {{BFS}}: His TabletopGame/HackMaster +12, of course. When introduced to the game in ages past, Dave's ''very first'' comment was "I want a big-ass sword!".
* CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass: He’s admittedly an idiot, but when he committed fully to running a magic-user (and started paying Brian for lessons), he started learning frighteningly fast. He also shows shades of this when running a straight fighter – say what you will, he knows how to kick ass.
* TheDitz: While he has his moments, as mentioned above, nobody can deny that Dave ain't too bright. Occasionally he dips into a {{Cloudcuckoolander}} set of mind, but mostly he's just clueless.
* TheRealMan: Dave is frequently Bob's partner-in-crime in this department.
* SpeaksFluentAnimal: Dave can understand Squirrely. Of course, Squirrely is unusually intelligent but he doesn't speak english.
* UnfazedEveryman: Of all of the Knights, Dave is the one with the least baggage and has the most interests that don't relate directly back to role-playing games. He can be just as nuts as Bob at times, but has also been seen watching basketball and having normal relationships with his family.
* {{BFS}}: His TabletopGame/HackMaster +12, of course. When introduced to the game in ages past, Dave's ''very first'' comment was "I want a big-ass sword!".
* CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass: He’s admittedly an idiot, but when he committed fully to running a magic-user (and started paying Brian for lessons), he started learning frighteningly fast. He also shows shades of this when running a straight fighter – say what you will, he knows how to kick ass.
* TheDitz: While he has his moments, as mentioned above, nobody can deny that Dave ain't too bright. Occasionally he dips into a {{Cloudcuckoolander}} set of mind, but mostly he's just clueless.
* TheRealMan: Dave is frequently Bob's partner-in-crime in this department.
* SpeaksFluentAnimal: Dave can understand Squirrely. Of course, Squirrely is unusually intelligent but he doesn't speak english.
* UnfazedEveryman: Of all of the Knights, Dave is the one with the least baggage and has the most interests that don't relate directly back to role-playing games. He can be just as nuts as Bob at times, but has also been seen watching basketball and having normal relationships with his family.
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* BadLiar: {{Angst}}: He has no poker face whatsoever. This actually becomes is in love with this trope as applied to his characters. Just one of the many things Stevil hates about him.
--> '''Stevil:''' ''(as Newt is about to introduce his latest character):'' Ooh, let me guess. Does he haunt the night? Is Death his only companion? Does he crave vengeance?
* ChronicBackstabbingDisorder: Even more so than the rest of the Black Hands.
* DarkerAndEdgier: The other trope he loves to use with his characters.
* InTheHood: Newt's characters invariably dress this way as part of his attempt to imbue them with aplot point when Bob ShroudedInMyth mystique. No one else is ever impressed.
* TheMunchkin: Moreso than any other player, yet strangely he's also TheRoleplayer. He'll take any opportunity to kill andDave want to conceal their in-game plans from Brian and Sara - Dave actually has to wear a paper bag on his head so they can't glean anything steal from his expression.
teammates, though he's settled down some as he knows this table is his last chance at a regular campaign.
*{{BFS}}: His TabletopGame/HackMaster +12, of course. When NinjaLooter: Compulsively. He was first introduced to the game in ages past, Dave's ''very first'' comment was "I want a big-ass sword!".
* CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass: He’s admittedly an idiot, but when he committed fully to running a magic-user (and started paying Brian for lessons), he started learning frighteningly fast. He also shows shadesas one of this when running a straight fighter – say what you will, he knows how to kick ass.
* TheDitz: While hethese. Nitro has his moments, as mentioned above, nobody can deny that Dave ain't too bright. Occasionally he dips into him on a {{Cloudcuckoolander}} set of mind, but mostly he's just clueless.
* TheRealMan: Dave is frequently Bob's partner-in-crime in this department.
* SpeaksFluentAnimal: Dave can understand Squirrely. Of course, Squirrely is unusually intelligentleash but he tugs at it constantly.
* ProfessionalButtKisser: Frequently tries to suck up to Nitro with superficial praise of his [=GMing=] (but doesn'tspeak english.
* UnfazedEveryman: Of all oflet up on the Knights, Dave is the one with the least baggage and has the most interests annoying munchkin behaviors that don't relate directly back to role-playing games. He can be just as nuts as Bob at times, but has also been seen watching basketball and having normal relationships with his family.
make Nitro's job harder). Nitro isn't impressed.
--> '''Stevil:''' ''(as Newt is about to introduce his latest character):'' Ooh, let me guess. Does he haunt the night? Is Death his only companion? Does he crave vengeance?
* ChronicBackstabbingDisorder: Even more so than the rest of the Black Hands.
* DarkerAndEdgier: The other trope he loves to use with his characters.
* InTheHood: Newt's characters invariably dress this way as part of his attempt to imbue them with a
* TheMunchkin: Moreso than any other player, yet strangely he's also TheRoleplayer. He'll take any opportunity to kill and
*
* CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass: He’s admittedly an idiot, but when he committed fully to running a magic-user (and started paying Brian for lessons), he started learning frighteningly fast. He also shows shades
* TheDitz: While he
* TheRealMan: Dave is frequently Bob's partner-in-crime in this department.
* SpeaksFluentAnimal: Dave can understand Squirrely. Of course, Squirrely is unusually intelligent
* ProfessionalButtKisser: Frequently tries to suck up to Nitro with superficial praise of his [=GMing=] (but doesn't
* UnfazedEveryman: Of all of
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!! Other Groups
[[folder:The Black Hands]]
Once the Knights stopped being simple gamer stereotypes and started being actual characters, the KODT writers began to introduce other gamer groups to be able to explore funny gamer situations that just wouldn't happen at the Knights table. The first was the Black Hands.
Another group to gain a lot of focus within the KODT strips to the point where each issue now usually features an ongoing strip with them and they've had their own miniseries. The group consists mostly of preestablished characters with everyone aside from Stevil getting at least a mention prior to the introduction of the Black Hands group. Their main distinctive feature is that they play together because nobody else will have them, so five difficult personalities get together each week and try to tolerate each other long enough to get through a game.
[[folder:The Black Hands]]
Once the Knights stopped being simple gamer stereotypes and started being actual characters, the KODT writers began to introduce other gamer groups to be able to explore funny gamer situations that just wouldn't happen at the Knights table. The first was the Black Hands.
Another group to gain a lot of focus within the KODT strips to the point where each issue now usually features an ongoing strip with them and they've had their own miniseries. The group consists mostly of preestablished characters with everyone aside from Stevil getting at least a mention prior to the introduction of the Black Hands group. Their main distinctive feature is that they play together because nobody else will have them, so five difficult personalities get together each week and try to tolerate each other long enough to get through a game.
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[[folder:The Black Hands]]
Once
The makers of most of the games played in the Muncie community, most notably Hackmaster. Hard 8 is loosely based on Creator/{{TSR}}, and when Hackmaster was first published in real life, all but the first foreword was written as though the Hard 8 characters were the ones writing it. Though regularly featured, the interactions between this set of characters and the Knights
Another group to gain a lot of focus within the KODT strips to the point where each issue now usually features an ongoing strip with them and they've had their own miniseries. The group consists mostly of preestablished characters with everyone aside from Stevil getting at least a mention prior to the introduction of the Black Hands group. Their main distinctive feature is that they play together because nobody else will have them, so five difficult personalities get together each week and try to tolerate each other long enough to get through a game.
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* ChronicBackstabbingDisorder: The Black Hands are constantly betraying each other and team killing.
* EvilCounterpart: They have all the Knights' darker qualities but none of their TrueCompanions status.
* HumiliationConga: Pulled on each other whenever possible. Institutionalized with the "Hubcap of Shame."
* IfYouDieICallYourStuff: Unlike the Knights, rights of inheritance are not respected.
* MedalOfDishonor: Any member who embarrasses the group or gamers in general is required to wear "The Hubcap of Shame". Even Nitro is bound by this practice.
* RagtagBunchOfMisfits: The only reason the Hands game together is no other group will have them.
* WeAreStrugglingTogether: The main challenge of the group is hold back their irritation with each other long enough to do anything useful in the game.
!!Victor "Nitro" Ferguson
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An unorthodox GM known for his edgy and weird gaming experiments. Nitro is a former drill sergeant and brings that mentality to the table. He's twice run a live action dungeon crawl in the steam tunnels beneath the local university and once trapped and imprisoned a group of gamers to run a wargame scenario, getting him banned from sanctioned play. He and Bob still have a bit of bad blood over the oft referenced incident where Bob threw salt in his eyes and hit him with a dinner tray (the man touched his dice.)
* EvilCounterpart: They have all the Knights' darker qualities but none of their TrueCompanions status.
* HumiliationConga: Pulled on each other whenever possible. Institutionalized with the "Hubcap of Shame."
* IfYouDieICallYourStuff: Unlike the Knights, rights of inheritance are not respected.
* MedalOfDishonor: Any member who embarrasses the group or gamers in general is required to wear "The Hubcap of Shame". Even Nitro is bound by this practice.
* RagtagBunchOfMisfits: The only reason the Hands game together is no other group will have them.
* WeAreStrugglingTogether: The main challenge of the group is hold back their irritation with each other long enough to do anything useful in the game.
!!Victor "Nitro" Ferguson
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An unorthodox GM known for his edgy and weird gaming experiments. Nitro is a former drill sergeant and brings that mentality to the table. He's twice run a live action dungeon crawl in the steam tunnels beneath the local university and once trapped and imprisoned a group of gamers to run a wargame scenario, getting him banned from sanctioned play. He and Bob still have a bit of bad blood over the oft referenced incident where Bob threw salt in his eyes and hit him with a dinner tray (the man touched his dice.)
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* ChronicBackstabbingDisorder: The Black Hands are constantly betraying each AuthorAppeal: Not so much in the early days, when the comic strip was appearing in the backs of other publishers' magazines, but in the years since ''Knights of the Dinner Table'' and team killing.
* EvilCounterpart: They[=KenzerCo=] became associated, strips about the pitfalls of ''making'' games have all the Knights' darker qualities but none replaced Hard 8's earlier function of their TrueCompanions status.
* HumiliationConga: Pulled on each other whenever possible. Institutionalized with the "Hubcap of Shame."
* IfYouDieICallYourStuff: Unlike the Knights, rights of inheritance are not respected.
* MedalOfDishonor: Any member who embarrasses the group orintroducing inexplicably bad products and gouging gamers in general for paid-by-the-minute phone support.
* {{Expy}}: Hard 8 itself isrequired to wear "The Hubcap an expy of Shame". Even Nitro is bound by this practice.
* RagtagBunchOfMisfits: The only reason[=TSR=], but the Hands game together is no other group will have them.
* WeAreStrugglingTogether: The main challengegames they produce are also typically expies of real life products Hackmaster (''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons''), World of Hackcraft (''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft''), and Spelljacked (The similarly ill-fated ''TabletopGame/{{Spellfire}}'' CCG) being some of the group is hold back their irritation with each other long enough to do anything useful most common.
* HonestJohnsDealership: As noted above, many of the early Hard 8 storylines showed them cranking out questionable products and using every trick in thegame.
!!Victor "Nitro" Ferguson
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!!Gary Jackson
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An unorthodox GM known The analog for Gary Gygax (with the surname of Steve Jackson). Show to be a gambler with a fly by the seat of his pants approach to running his company and publishing new game products. After his apparent death in a plane crash, he became a sort of larger than life legend, made still larger recently when it was revealed he's not dead. Currently he's using another company to buy out products being held and (he feels) ruined by his wife who has been running the company in trust for his edgy and weird gaming experiments. Nitro is a former drill sergeant and brings that mentality to the table. He's twice run a live action dungeon crawl in the steam tunnels beneath the local university and once trapped and imprisoned a group of gamers to run a wargame scenario, getting him banned from sanctioned play. He and Bob still have a bit of bad blood over the oft referenced incident where Bob threw salt in his eyes and hit him with a dinner tray (the man touched his dice.)son.
* EvilCounterpart: They
* HumiliationConga: Pulled on each other whenever possible. Institutionalized with the "Hubcap of Shame."
* IfYouDieICallYourStuff: Unlike the Knights, rights of inheritance are not respected.
* MedalOfDishonor: Any member who embarrasses the group or
* {{Expy}}: Hard 8 itself is
* RagtagBunchOfMisfits: The only reason
* WeAreStrugglingTogether: The main challenge
* HonestJohnsDealership: As noted above, many of the early Hard 8 storylines showed them cranking out questionable products and using every trick in the
!!Victor "Nitro" Ferguson
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* AscendedExtra: As with many of the Knights' secondary characters, Nitro was referred to long before he actually appeared in the comic. Nowadays, after the core five and Weird Pete, he's probably the character who appears most.
* BlackAndNerdy: You could be forgiven for not knowing this unless you've spotted Nitro on a cover or in one of the rare colorized strips, but he's black.
* DrillSergeantNasty: At least early on. He's still tough on his group but has softened a bit.
* EarlyInstallmentWeirdness: Nitro's game-mastering style was ''bizarre'' in his first few appearances.
---> '''Nitro:''' A hole opens up in the floor and somebody rises into view. You realize that it's Andy Warhol. He's accompanied by a panda bear wearing a set of Bermuda shorts made out of an old Nazi flag.
** WordOfGod is that those early Nitro strips stem from a real-life encounter with a guy nicknamed 'Nitro' when the author was desperate to get into a D&D game. [[spoiler: It turned out he wasn't desperate enough to put up with THAT.]]
* EstablishingCharacterMoment: When he first enters the comic, even before he enters the ''panel'', [[IncomingHam he immediately sets the tone]]:
--->'''Nitro''': [[Music/TheBeatles I am the walrus! I am the dice man! Goo goo g'joob!]]
* {{Jerkass}}: He is frequently very harsh and abrasive, particularly when he's in DrillSergeantNasty mode, but one especially notable moment is when he gets invited into B.A.'s game as a guest NPC. [[spoiler:He then manipulated Dave into betraying the rest of the party. After a huge battle, everybody in the game, a game that was running for years, was dead and without any chance to come back or continue the story. The entire table was dismayed. Nitro just got up and said "Looks like my work here is through".]]
* JerkassHasAPoint: In-universe, Nitro has a lot more respect and control over his games than BA does his. His harsh style works.
!!Weird Pete Ashton
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A partner with Gary Jackson during the transition of Hackmaster from wargame to rpg, Gary bought him out shortly before Hackmaster went to press and he used the money to open Weird Pete's Game Pit. The Black Hand's game takes place in his back room. Naturally, being a merchant in a struggling industry that is also his primary way of making friends, all his relationships are complicated by the financial matters surrounding the hobby. When behind the screen, he's a grouchy old school Killer GM.
* BlackAndNerdy: You could be forgiven for not knowing this unless you've spotted Nitro on a cover or in one of the rare colorized strips, but he's black.
* DrillSergeantNasty: At least early on. He's still tough on his group but has softened a bit.
* EarlyInstallmentWeirdness: Nitro's game-mastering style was ''bizarre'' in his first few appearances.
---> '''Nitro:''' A hole opens up in the floor and somebody rises into view. You realize that it's Andy Warhol. He's accompanied by a panda bear wearing a set of Bermuda shorts made out of an old Nazi flag.
** WordOfGod is that those early Nitro strips stem from a real-life encounter with a guy nicknamed 'Nitro' when the author was desperate to get into a D&D game. [[spoiler: It turned out he wasn't desperate enough to put up with THAT.]]
* EstablishingCharacterMoment: When he first enters the comic, even before he enters the ''panel'', [[IncomingHam he immediately sets the tone]]:
--->'''Nitro''': [[Music/TheBeatles I am the walrus! I am the dice man! Goo goo g'joob!]]
* {{Jerkass}}: He is frequently very harsh and abrasive, particularly when he's in DrillSergeantNasty mode, but one especially notable moment is when he gets invited into B.A.'s game as a guest NPC. [[spoiler:He then manipulated Dave into betraying the rest of the party. After a huge battle, everybody in the game, a game that was running for years, was dead and without any chance to come back or continue the story. The entire table was dismayed. Nitro just got up and said "Looks like my work here is through".]]
* JerkassHasAPoint: In-universe, Nitro has a lot more respect and control over his games than BA does his. His harsh style works.
!!Weird Pete Ashton
[[quoteright:247:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/weird_pete.jpg]]
A partner with Gary Jackson during the transition of Hackmaster from wargame to rpg, Gary bought him out shortly before Hackmaster went to press and he used the money to open Weird Pete's Game Pit. The Black Hand's game takes place in his back room. Naturally, being a merchant in a struggling industry that is also his primary way of making friends, all his relationships are complicated by the financial matters surrounding the hobby. When behind the screen, he's a grouchy old school Killer GM.
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* AscendedExtra: As with TheAce: Filled this role during the time he spent apparently dead as the Hard 8 staff would often fondly recall Gary's fly by the seat of his pants style of management.
* DeathFakedForYou: The solution to his KilledOffForReal plot.
* HonestJohnsDealership: Much of his attempts to market games are based on squeezing every last dime from the public despite his honest love of gaming.
* JerkWithAHeartOfJerk: Thinks of himself as a brilliant businessman; extremely self-confident; prone to giving his employees "bonuses" by unloading items he can't sell on them and calling them "bonuses".
* NoCelebritiesWereHarmed: What manyof the Knights' secondary characters, Nitro was referred to long before people assumed he was. Jolly actually appeared in says he was based on the comic. Nowadays, after the core five weird idea he had as a teenager that game designers were rich rockstar executives.
* KilledOffForReal: Jolly Blackburn became wary of people assuming Gary was meant to be a parody of RL individuals andWeird Pete, did this. He eventually came to regret it.
* PetTheDog: While undeniably a {{Jerkass}}, he does have moments where he'll display a decent streak. Sure, he's probablythe character who appears most.
* BlackAndNerdy: You could be forgiven for not knowing this unless you've spotted Nitro on a cover or in oneworking some kind of the rare colorized strips, but angle, and quite often he's black.
* DrillSergeantNasty: At least early on. He's still tough onscheming to catch people off-guard so he can screw them over, but he ''does'' have his group but has softened a bit.
* EarlyInstallmentWeirdness: Nitro's game-mastering style was ''bizarre'' in his first few appearances.
---> '''Nitro:''' A hole opens up in the floor and somebody rises into view. You realize that it's Andy Warhol. He's accompanied by a panda bear wearing a set of Bermuda shorts made out of an old Nazi flag.
** WordOfGod is that those early Nitro strips stem from a real-life encounter with a guy nicknamed 'Nitro' when the author was desperate to get into a D&D game. [[spoiler: It turned out he wasn't desperate enough to put up with THAT.]]
* EstablishingCharacterMoment: When he first enters the comic, even before he enters the ''panel'', [[IncomingHam he immediately sets the tone]]:
--->'''Nitro''': [[Music/TheBeatles I am the walrus! I am the dice man! Goo goo g'joob!]]
* {{Jerkass}}: He is frequently very harsh and abrasive, particularly when he's in DrillSergeantNasty mode, but one especially notable moment is when he gets invited into B.A.'s game as a guest NPC. [[spoiler:He then manipulated Dave into betraying the rest of the party. After a huge battle, everybody in the game, a game that was running for years, was dead and without any chance to come back or continue the story. The entire table was dismayed. Nitro just got up and said "Looks like my work here is through".]]
* JerkassHasAPoint: In-universe, Nitro has a lot more respect and control over his games than BA does his. His harsh style works.
!!Weird Pete Ashton
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!![=JoJo=] Zeke
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A partner with Gary Second in command who became the man to run the show on site after Jackson's death. Zeke, like Jackson during the transition of cares passionately about Hackmaster from wargame to rpg, Gary bought him out shortly before Hackmaster went to press and he used the money to open Weird Pete's Game Pit. The Black Hand's game takes place in his back room. Naturally, work he puts into it. After Gary's death, he was shown being a merchant in a struggling industry that is also his primary way of making friends, all his relationships are complicated worn to the core by the financial matters surrounding the hobby. When behind the screen, he's a grouchy old school Killer GM.demands of Heidi Jackson until he finally quit.
* DeathFakedForYou: The solution to his KilledOffForReal plot.
* HonestJohnsDealership: Much of his attempts to market games are based on squeezing every last dime from the public despite his honest love of gaming.
* JerkWithAHeartOfJerk: Thinks of himself as a brilliant businessman; extremely self-confident; prone to giving his employees "bonuses" by unloading items he can't sell on them and calling them "bonuses".
* NoCelebritiesWereHarmed: What many
* KilledOffForReal: Jolly Blackburn became wary of people assuming Gary was meant to be a parody of RL individuals and
* PetTheDog: While undeniably a {{Jerkass}}, he does have moments where he'll display a decent streak. Sure, he's probably
* BlackAndNerdy: You could be forgiven for not knowing this unless you've spotted Nitro on a cover or in one
* DrillSergeantNasty: At least early on. He's still tough on
* EarlyInstallmentWeirdness: Nitro's game-mastering style was ''bizarre'' in his first few appearances.
---> '''Nitro:''' A hole opens up in the floor and somebody rises into view. You realize that it's Andy Warhol. He's accompanied by a panda bear wearing a set of Bermuda shorts made out of an old Nazi flag.
** WordOfGod is that those early Nitro strips stem from a real-life encounter with a guy nicknamed 'Nitro' when the author was desperate to get into a D&D game. [[spoiler: It turned out he wasn't desperate enough to put up with THAT.]]
* EstablishingCharacterMoment: When he first enters the comic, even before he enters the ''panel'', [[IncomingHam he immediately sets the tone]]:
--->'''Nitro''': [[Music/TheBeatles I am the walrus! I am the dice man! Goo goo g'joob!]]
* {{Jerkass}}: He is frequently very harsh and abrasive, particularly when he's in DrillSergeantNasty mode, but one especially notable moment is when he gets invited into B.A.'s game as a guest NPC. [[spoiler:He then manipulated Dave into betraying the rest of the party. After a huge battle, everybody in the game, a game that was running for years, was dead and without any chance to come back or continue the story. The entire table was dismayed. Nitro just got up and said "Looks like my work here is through".]]
* JerkassHasAPoint: In-universe, Nitro has a lot more respect and control over his games than BA does his. His harsh style works.
!!Weird Pete Ashton
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!![=JoJo=] Zeke
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* DrunkWithPower: Any kind of power seems to go to Weird Pete's head. He becomes a petty tyrant when running a campaign (or even just sitting in as a temporary GM on someone else's) - handing out demerits at the drop of a hat for infringing rules he has just made up - and he runs the Gamers Court as a HangingJudge.
* EverythingIsTryingToKillYou: His campaign setting (no doubt inspired by early Gygax material) is so difficult to survive in that nobody has ever made it past third level.
* {{Expy}}: Is one for Dave Arneson with a lot of the actual Gary Gygax (more than Gary Jackson at least). He even made the equivalent of the ''Tomb of Horrors.''
* HonestJohnsDealership: Often fast-talks customers (usually B.A.) into buying whatever he's trying to unload at the moment, regardless of its quality or usefulness.
* JudicialWig: Pete wears whenever he is presiding as judge at Gamer Court. It is not known if judges in other Gamer Courts also do this, or if this is just another example of Pete's fondness for theatrics and formal trappings.
* KillerGM: Moreso than the others. And he's always eager to get behind the screen again when the trauma of the previous campaign has healed.
---> '''Nitro:''' "Actually, I was just thinking he's mellowed. [[OffscreenMomentOfAwesome In the old days, he didn't give warnings.]]"
* StopHavingFunGuys: He's an old school gamer who is vocal in his belief that newer games suck. In one strip, a newbie gamer at the Games Pit outlines his reasons for not liking Hackmaster, prompting Pete to launch into a lecture about what's wrong with the newbie's attitude, not noticing that his would-be customer has left partway through the rant.
!!Steven "Stevil" Van Hostle
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Also known as "Evil Stevil" and "Bitter Stevil." Stevil is a prickly individual who unleashes pent up office frustrations at the game table. He has to commute from Indianapolis to gaming nights, leading to his frequent complaint "I can't believe I drove forty frickin' miles for THIS!" Newt has rubbed him the wrong way from day one, leading to an escalating vengeance war between them.
* EverythingIsTryingToKillYou: His campaign setting (no doubt inspired by early Gygax material) is so difficult to survive in that nobody has ever made it past third level.
* {{Expy}}: Is one for Dave Arneson with a lot of the actual Gary Gygax (more than Gary Jackson at least). He even made the equivalent of the ''Tomb of Horrors.''
* HonestJohnsDealership: Often fast-talks customers (usually B.A.) into buying whatever he's trying to unload at the moment, regardless of its quality or usefulness.
* JudicialWig: Pete wears whenever he is presiding as judge at Gamer Court. It is not known if judges in other Gamer Courts also do this, or if this is just another example of Pete's fondness for theatrics and formal trappings.
* KillerGM: Moreso than the others. And he's always eager to get behind the screen again when the trauma of the previous campaign has healed.
---> '''Nitro:''' "Actually, I was just thinking he's mellowed. [[OffscreenMomentOfAwesome In the old days, he didn't give warnings.]]"
* StopHavingFunGuys: He's an old school gamer who is vocal in his belief that newer games suck. In one strip, a newbie gamer at the Games Pit outlines his reasons for not liking Hackmaster, prompting Pete to launch into a lecture about what's wrong with the newbie's attitude, not noticing that his would-be customer has left partway through the rant.
!!Steven "Stevil" Van Hostle
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Also known as "Evil Stevil" and "Bitter Stevil." Stevil is a prickly individual who unleashes pent up office frustrations at the game table. He has to commute from Indianapolis to gaming nights, leading to his frequent complaint "I can't believe I drove forty frickin' miles for THIS!" Newt has rubbed him the wrong way from day one, leading to an escalating vengeance war between them.
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* DrunkWithPower: Any kind of power seems to go to Weird Pete's head. He becomes a petty tyrant when running a campaign (or even just sitting TheDragon: Oddly, whether Gary or Heidi is in as a temporary GM on someone else's) - handing out demerits at the drop of a hat for infringing rules he has just made up - and he runs the Gamers Court as a HangingJudge.
* EverythingIsTryingToKillYou: His campaign setting (no doubt inspired by early Gygax material) is so difficult to survive in that nobody has ever made it past third level.
* {{Expy}}: Is one for Dave Arneson with a lotcharge of the actual Gary Gygax (more than Gary Jackson at least). He even made company, [=JoJo=] gravitates to the equivalent position of second-in-command.
* HeroOfAnotherStory: [=JoJo=] is the''Tomb of Horrors.''
* HonestJohnsDealership: Often fast-talks customers (usually B.A.) into buying whatever he's trying to unload at the moment, regardless of its quality or usefulness.
* JudicialWig: Pete wears whenever he is presiding as judge at Gamer Court. It is not known if judges in other Gamer Courts also do this, or if this is just another example of Pete's fondness for theatrics and formal trappings.
* KillerGM: Moreso than the others. And he's always eager to get behind the screen again when the trauma of the previous campaign has healed.
---> '''Nitro:''' "Actually, I was just thinking he's mellowed. [[OffscreenMomentOfAwesome In the old days, he didn't give warnings.]]"
* StopHavingFunGuys: He's an old school gameronly Hard8 character who is vocal shows up regularly in his belief that newer games suck. In one strip, a newbie gamer at the Games Pit outlines his reasons for not liking Hackmaster, prompting Pete Muncie to launch into a lecture about what's wrong interact with the newbie's attitude, not noticing that regular cast. This is because one of his would-be customer has left partway through many duties is putting an end to crises... and the rant.
!!Steven "Stevil" Van Hostle
gamers in Muncie tend to create crises. They're his biggest headache.
** Except possibly [[NoodleIncident the rogue gamer chapters out in Idaho.]]
!!"Waco" Bob Forsey
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Also known as "Evil Stevil" and "Bitter Stevil." Stevil is a prickly individual who unleashes pent up office frustrations at The old man of the group. During Gary's tenure as head of the company, Bob got along largely by agreeing with everything Gary said. This may have been the reason he was the first to get fired when Heidi took over. Tuley quietly organized a campaign where the other employees took a pay cut to get him re-hired.
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* YesMan: As noted, all he ever did at Hard 8 staff meetings was agree with Gary Jackson's pronouncements. According to the [[WordOfGod cast list]], his playtest reports described every newly developed gametable. He has as "the next TabletopGame/HackMaster".
!!Pete "Skip" Skipowski
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A college buddy of Gary Jackson's who became a game designer for Hard 8 when the company was formed.
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* SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute: At one point when [=JoJo=] was unavailable, Skip was sent tocommute from Indianapolis to gaming nights, leading to deal with the [[RunningGag latest "problem in Muncie".]]
!!Edmund Finley
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A younger game designer for the company, hisfrequent complaint "I can't believe I drove forty frickin' miles pet project was a game called "Abe, Babes and Roller Blades," described as a "sexy, zany, time-travelling romp through history and fashion."
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!!Tuley Priswinkle
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For a long time, Tuley was the company's unpaid customer service representative, under the impression that he was playtesting a virtual corporation computer game. He eventually became a regular employee and even sat in the boardroom forTHIS!" Newt has rubbed him the wrong way from day one, leading to an escalating vengeance war between them. a while during Heidi's tenure.
* EverythingIsTryingToKillYou: His campaign setting (no doubt inspired by early Gygax material) is so difficult to survive in that nobody has ever made it past third level.
* {{Expy}}: Is one for Dave Arneson with a lot
* HeroOfAnotherStory: [=JoJo=] is the
* HonestJohnsDealership: Often fast-talks customers (usually B.A.) into buying whatever he's trying to unload at the moment, regardless of its quality or usefulness.
* JudicialWig: Pete wears whenever he is presiding as judge at Gamer Court. It is not known if judges in other Gamer Courts also do this, or if this is just another example of Pete's fondness for theatrics and formal trappings.
* KillerGM: Moreso than the others. And he's always eager to get behind the screen again when the trauma of the previous campaign has healed.
---> '''Nitro:''' "Actually, I was just thinking he's mellowed. [[OffscreenMomentOfAwesome In the old days, he didn't give warnings.]]"
* StopHavingFunGuys: He's an old school gamer
!!Steven "Stevil" Van Hostle
** Except possibly [[NoodleIncident the rogue gamer chapters out in Idaho.]]
!!"Waco" Bob Forsey
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* YesMan: As noted, all he ever did at Hard 8 staff meetings was agree with Gary Jackson's pronouncements. According to the [[WordOfGod cast list]], his playtest reports described every newly developed game
!!Pete "Skip" Skipowski
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A college buddy of Gary Jackson's who became a game designer for Hard 8 when the company was formed.
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* SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute: At one point when [=JoJo=] was unavailable, Skip was sent to
!!Edmund Finley
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A younger game designer for the company, his
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!!Tuley Priswinkle
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* CatchPhrase: "I can't believe I drove forty fricking miles for '''this!"'''
* TheChessmaster: The "loan arrangement" he made with Newt (which involved a contract with fine print and a gawd oath) to make Newt his permanent slave. He eventually gets OutGambitted though.
* TheComicallySerious: Even in universe. The whole reason Nitro decides to let Newt stay is because he likes how Newt treats Stevil. But the crowning example comes during their Cattlepunk game when Stevil is forced to wear a giant sombrero. He is not happy about this.
* DeadpanSnarker: And a vicious one at that.
* EvilCounterpart: Stevil is basically Bob if you strip away Bob's nice traits and throw in a dash of Brian's scheming.
* JerkWithAHeartOfJerk: Stevil may seem like a total JerkAss, but as you get to know him better, you realize that deep, deep down, he really is a total JerkAss.
* KickTheDog: Drew complaints of this early on as he tended to pick on Newt a lot with little provocation, but Newt more than makes up for it by arranging bail for everyone BUT Stevil later on.
--> '''Stevil:''' That big guy in holding cell three made me dance for ''twenty hours straight!''
* OnlySaneMan: Oddly Stevil seems to fill this role for the Black Hands, especially when it comes to dealing with situations outside of gaming. His reaction to listening a bunch of gamers planning to invest in gold (in the real world) is priceless.
* PetTheDog: In his kinder moments, Stevil seems to regard Nitro or Pete (whichever of them is not [=GMing=]) as a partner against the real enemies; Newt and the GM.
* PunnyName: His last name can be read as a mutation of "hostile." And Stevil certainly is.
* TheSmartGuy: He may be an unrepentant {{Jerkass}}, but there's no denying his intelligence. He's come up with some pretty devious plans over the years, at one point point even [[spoiler:beating the Temple of Horrendous Doom!]]
!!Gordo Sheckberry
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A former chemist on permanent disability after getting in an accident at work. Between workers' comp and disability, Gordo now has all the time and money he needs to dedicate himself to gaming. Gordo is obnoxious in a very different way than the rest of the Black Hands: he's a dedicated deep-immersion role player with a vast fund of long, rambling character stories; a "frightening" mastery of fairy lore; and a complete inability to sense the comfort zones of his fellow gamers.
* TheChessmaster: The "loan arrangement" he made with Newt (which involved a contract with fine print and a gawd oath) to make Newt his permanent slave. He eventually gets OutGambitted though.
* TheComicallySerious: Even in universe. The whole reason Nitro decides to let Newt stay is because he likes how Newt treats Stevil. But the crowning example comes during their Cattlepunk game when Stevil is forced to wear a giant sombrero. He is not happy about this.
* DeadpanSnarker: And a vicious one at that.
* EvilCounterpart: Stevil is basically Bob if you strip away Bob's nice traits and throw in a dash of Brian's scheming.
* JerkWithAHeartOfJerk: Stevil may seem like a total JerkAss, but as you get to know him better, you realize that deep, deep down, he really is a total JerkAss.
* KickTheDog: Drew complaints of this early on as he tended to pick on Newt a lot with little provocation, but Newt more than makes up for it by arranging bail for everyone BUT Stevil later on.
--> '''Stevil:''' That big guy in holding cell three made me dance for ''twenty hours straight!''
* OnlySaneMan: Oddly Stevil seems to fill this role for the Black Hands, especially when it comes to dealing with situations outside of gaming. His reaction to listening a bunch of gamers planning to invest in gold (in the real world) is priceless.
* PetTheDog: In his kinder moments, Stevil seems to regard Nitro or Pete (whichever of them is not [=GMing=]) as a partner against the real enemies; Newt and the GM.
* PunnyName: His last name can be read as a mutation of "hostile." And Stevil certainly is.
* TheSmartGuy: He may be an unrepentant {{Jerkass}}, but there's no denying his intelligence. He's come up with some pretty devious plans over the years, at one point point even [[spoiler:beating the Temple of Horrendous Doom!]]
!!Gordo Sheckberry
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A former chemist on permanent disability after getting in an accident at work. Between workers' comp and disability, Gordo now has all the time and money he needs to dedicate himself to gaming. Gordo is obnoxious in a very different way than the rest of the Black Hands: he's a dedicated deep-immersion role player with a vast fund of long, rambling character stories; a "frightening" mastery of fairy lore; and a complete inability to sense the comfort zones of his fellow gamers.
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* CatchPhrase: "I can't believe I drove forty fricking miles for '''this!"'''
* TheChessmaster: The "loan arrangement" he made with Newt (which involved a contract with fine printAscendedFanboy: Started working at the company's phoneline and a gawd oath) to make Newt his permanent slave. eventually became part of the board.
* BecomingTheMask: He eventuallygets OutGambitted though.
* TheComicallySerious: Even in universe. The whole reason Nitro decidesfigured out the ruse but continued to let Newt stay is "play" the "game" because it was fun. Shortly after that, he likes how Newt treats Stevil. But the crowning example comes during their Cattlepunk game when Stevil is forced to wear a giant sombrero. He is not happy about this.
* DeadpanSnarker: And a vicious one at that.
* EvilCounterpart: Stevil is basically Bob if you strip away Bob's nice traits and throw in a dash of Brian's scheming.
* JerkWithAHeartOfJerk: Stevil may seem like a total JerkAss, but as you get to know him better, you realize that deep, deep down, he really is a total JerkAss.
* KickTheDog: Drew complaints of this early on as he tended to pick on Newt a lot with little provocation, but Newt more than makes up for it by arranging bail for everyone BUT Stevil later on.
--> '''Stevil:''' That big guy in holding cell three made me dance for ''twenty hours straight!''
* OnlySaneMan: Oddly Stevil seems to fill this role for the Black Hands, especially when it comes to dealing with situations outside of gaming. His reaction to listening a bunch of gamers planning to invest in gold (in the real world) is priceless.
* PetTheDog: In his kinder moments, Stevil seems to regard Nitro or Pete (whichever of them is not [=GMing=]) as a partner against the real enemies; Newt and the GM.
* PunnyName: His last name can be read as a mutation of "hostile." And Stevil certainly is.
* TheSmartGuy: He may bebecame an unrepentant {{Jerkass}}, but there's no denying his intelligence. He's come up with some pretty devious plans over the years, at one point point even [[spoiler:beating the Temple of Horrendous Doom!]]
!!Gordo Sheckberry
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!!Timmy Jackson
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A former chemist on permanent disability after gettingorg/pmwiki/pub/images/timmy_9.jpg]]
The son and heir of Gary Jackson. Gary used to let Timmy create material for the game in anaccident at work. Between workers' comp egregious example of nepotism (the kid was eight, and disability, Gordo now has all the time it showed in his work). After Gary's death, Heidi sent him off to military school, where he discovered football and money he needs to dedicate himself to gaming. Gordo is obnoxious in a very different way than the rest of the Black Hands: he's a dedicated deep-immersion role player with a vast fund of long, rambling character stories; a "frightening" mastery of fairy lore; girls and a complete inability to sense the comfort zones of his fellow gamers.decided roleplaying games were uncool.
* TheChessmaster: The "loan arrangement" he made with Newt (which involved a contract with fine print
* BecomingTheMask: He eventually
* TheComicallySerious: Even in universe. The whole reason Nitro decides
* DeadpanSnarker: And a vicious one at that.
* EvilCounterpart: Stevil is basically Bob if you strip away Bob's nice traits and throw in a dash of Brian's scheming.
* JerkWithAHeartOfJerk: Stevil may seem like a total JerkAss, but as you get to know him better, you realize that deep, deep down, he really is a total JerkAss.
* KickTheDog: Drew complaints of this early on as he tended to pick on Newt a lot with little provocation, but Newt more than makes up for it by arranging bail for everyone BUT Stevil later on.
--> '''Stevil:''' That big guy in holding cell three made me dance for ''twenty hours straight!''
* OnlySaneMan: Oddly Stevil seems to fill this role for the Black Hands, especially when it comes to dealing with situations outside of gaming. His reaction to listening a bunch of gamers planning to invest in gold (in the real world) is priceless.
* PetTheDog: In his kinder moments, Stevil seems to regard Nitro or Pete (whichever of them is not [=GMing=]) as a partner against the real enemies; Newt and the GM.
* PunnyName: His last name can be read as a mutation of "hostile." And Stevil certainly is.
* TheSmartGuy: He may be
!!Gordo Sheckberry
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!!Timmy Jackson
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A former chemist on permanent disability after getting
The son and heir of Gary Jackson. Gary used to let Timmy create material for the game in an
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* CampStraight: His orientation is pretty ambiguous, though in one strip he does discuss his 'dream woman' with some of the other Black Hands.
* CrossPlayer: The trope that embodied Gordo till CharacterDevelopment ensued. His introduction was as an off panel reference to what happens to players that crossplay (as the Knights were about to have to.)
* NiceGuy: He is one of the most genuinely nice characters in the entire comic. Even being constantly picked on by the other players makes him more upset than angry.
* TheRoleplayer: Gordo embodies some of the more negative aspects of the trope: he has a long history of creating ineffective characters and placing their welfare ahead of the group's.
!!Newt Forager
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Probably the youngest of the series regular characters. Newt still lives at home and is in college. He was introduced as a temporary replacement for Bob, where he made his mark by killing the other players' characters in their sleep and looting their bodies to stock up for another campaign he really wanted to play in. Apparently, this type of behavior continued until the first Black Hands strip where he showed up desperate to finally be accepted into a group (the Black Hands being his last chance). Nitro decided to keep him because he liked how Newt rattled Stevil.
* CrossPlayer: The trope that embodied Gordo till CharacterDevelopment ensued. His introduction was as an off panel reference to what happens to players that crossplay (as the Knights were about to have to.)
* NiceGuy: He is one of the most genuinely nice characters in the entire comic. Even being constantly picked on by the other players makes him more upset than angry.
* TheRoleplayer: Gordo embodies some of the more negative aspects of the trope: he has a long history of creating ineffective characters and placing their welfare ahead of the group's.
!!Newt Forager
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Probably the youngest of the series regular characters. Newt still lives at home and is in college. He was introduced as a temporary replacement for Bob, where he made his mark by killing the other players' characters in their sleep and looting their bodies to stock up for another campaign he really wanted to play in. Apparently, this type of behavior continued until the first Black Hands strip where he showed up desperate to finally be accepted into a group (the Black Hands being his last chance). Nitro decided to keep him because he liked how Newt rattled Stevil.
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* CampStraight: His orientation is pretty ambiguous, though in one strip he does discuss his 'dream woman' with some [[invoked]]GodModeSue: InUniverse: When [=GMing=] the final round of the other Black Hands.
* CrossPlayer: The trope that embodied Gordo till CharacterDevelopment ensued. His introduction was as an off panel referencegrudge match arc, he arbitrarily threw monsters and damage at the players. They managed to what happens beat him by using the same tactic right back at him, causing him to break down and leave the table crying, giving the players that crossplay (as the Knights a default win.
* {{Nepotism}}: Gary Jackson let him write Hard 8 supplements. The results were aboutto have to.)
* NiceGuy: He is one ofwhat you would expect from an eight-year-old who doesn't know what he's doing.
!!Heidi Jackson
Gary's ex-wife and themost genuinely nice characters runner of a successful paperback publishing company. Gary left Hard 8 to his son Timmy but the company is being held in trust till he turns 18 leaving Heidi to run the company as the trustee. She clearly has an axe to grind with her deceased ex but also is (presumably) trying to protect her son's legacy and make it profitable. Problem is, Hard 8 had always been a labor of love whereas Heidi expects the company to perform like hers does. This is pretty clearly a nod to Lorraine Williams (though not a direct parody) who was part of a business deal that took [=DnD=] from Creator/GaryGygax and played a role in the entire comic. Even being constantly picked on by failure of Creator/{{TSR}}. She also released a new edition of Hackmaster, the other players makes him more upset than angry.
* TheRoleplayer: Gordo embodies some of the more negative aspects of the trope: he has a long history of creating ineffective charactersonly details for which seemed to match up with 4th edition Dungeons and placing their welfare ahead of the group's.
!!Newt Forager
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Probably the youngest of the series regular characters. Newt still lives at home and is in college. He was introduced as a temporary replacement for Bob, where he made his mark by killing the other players' characters in their sleep and looting their bodies to stock up for another campaign he really wanted to play in. Apparently, this type of behavior continued until the first Black Hands strip where he showed up desperate to finally be accepted into a group (the Black Hands being his last chance). Nitro decided to keep him because he liked how Newt rattled Stevil.Dragons from real life.
* CrossPlayer: The trope that embodied Gordo till CharacterDevelopment ensued. His introduction was as an off panel reference
* {{Nepotism}}: Gary Jackson let him write Hard 8 supplements. The results were about
* NiceGuy: He is one of
!!Heidi Jackson
Gary's ex-wife and the
* TheRoleplayer: Gordo embodies some of the more negative aspects of the trope: he has a long history of creating ineffective characters
!!Newt Forager
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Probably the youngest of the series regular characters. Newt still lives at home and is in college. He was introduced as a temporary replacement for Bob, where he made his mark by killing the other players' characters in their sleep and looting their bodies to stock up for another campaign he really wanted to play in. Apparently, this type of behavior continued until the first Black Hands strip where he showed up desperate to finally be accepted into a group (the Black Hands being his last chance). Nitro decided to keep him because he liked how Newt rattled Stevil.
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* {{Angst}}: He is in love with this trope as applied to his characters. Just one of the many things Stevil hates about him.
--> '''Stevil:''' ''(as Newt is about to introduce his latest character):'' Ooh, let me guess. Does he haunt the night? Is Death his only companion? Does he crave vengeance?
* ChronicBackstabbingDisorder: Even more so than the rest of the Black Hands.
* DarkerAndEdgier: The other trope he loves to use with his characters.
* InTheHood: Newt's characters invariably dress this way as part of his attempt to imbue them with a ShroudedInMyth mystique. No one else is ever impressed.
* TheMunchkin: Moreso than any other player, yet strangely he's also TheRoleplayer. He'll take any opportunity to kill and steal from his teammates, though he's settled down some as he knows this table is his last chance at a regular campaign.
* NinjaLooter: Compulsively. He was first introduced as one of these. Nitro has him on a leash but he tugs at it constantly.
* ProfessionalButtKisser: Frequently tries to suck up to Nitro with superficial praise of his [=GMing=] (but doesn't let up on the annoying munchkin behaviors that make Nitro's job harder). Nitro isn't impressed.
--> '''Stevil:''' ''(as Newt is about to introduce his latest character):'' Ooh, let me guess. Does he haunt the night? Is Death his only companion? Does he crave vengeance?
* ChronicBackstabbingDisorder: Even more so than the rest of the Black Hands.
* DarkerAndEdgier: The other trope he loves to use with his characters.
* InTheHood: Newt's characters invariably dress this way as part of his attempt to imbue them with a ShroudedInMyth mystique. No one else is ever impressed.
* TheMunchkin: Moreso than any other player, yet strangely he's also TheRoleplayer. He'll take any opportunity to kill and steal from his teammates, though he's settled down some as he knows this table is his last chance at a regular campaign.
* NinjaLooter: Compulsively. He was first introduced as one of these. Nitro has him on a leash but he tugs at it constantly.
* ProfessionalButtKisser: Frequently tries to suck up to Nitro with superficial praise of his [=GMing=] (but doesn't let up on the annoying munchkin behaviors that make Nitro's job harder). Nitro isn't impressed.
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* {{Angst}}: He is BadBoss: Not incompetent, she was simply mean to the Hard 8 staff, constantly cutting their budget and involving herself overly in love with this trope as applied to his characters. Just one aspects of the many things Stevil hates about him.
--> '''Stevil:''' ''(as Newt is aboutprocess she didn't really understand.
* DragonLady: Referred tointroduce his latest character):'' Ooh, let me guess. Does he haunt the night? Is Death his only companion? Does he crave vengeance?
* ChronicBackstabbingDisorder: Even more so than the rest of the Black Hands.
* DarkerAndEdgier: The other trope he loves to use with his characters.
* InTheHood: Newt's characters invariably dress this wayas part of his attempt to imbue them with a ShroudedInMyth mystique. No one else is ever impressed.
* TheMunchkin: Moreso than any other player, yet strangely he's also TheRoleplayer. He'll take any opportunity to kill and steal from his teammates,such, though he's settled down she's not asian and only metaphorically fits the type.
* [[invoked]] ExecutiveMeddling: After finally playing a session of Hackmaster, she decided lots of changes needed to be made, which basically ruined the game. Based on the protests, the game has someas he knows this table is his last chance at a regular campaign.
* NinjaLooter: Compulsively. He was first introduced as one of these. Nitro has him on a leash but he tugs at it constantly.
* ProfessionalButtKisser: Frequently tries to suck up to Nitro withsuperficial praise of his [=GMing=] (but doesn't let up on resemblance to the annoying munchkin behaviors that make Nitro's job harder). Nitro isn't impressed.
initial release of fourth edition ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons''. WordOfGod has said it wasn't a conscious decision but not a wrong take either.
* TyrantTakesTheHelm: How the Hard 8 staff view her despite how badly Gary mismanaged the company. They are proven right since her products are terrible.
--> '''Stevil:''' ''(as Newt is about
* DragonLady: Referred to
* ChronicBackstabbingDisorder: Even more so than the rest of the Black Hands.
* DarkerAndEdgier: The other trope he loves to use with his characters.
* InTheHood: Newt's characters invariably dress this way
* TheMunchkin: Moreso than any other player, yet strangely he's also TheRoleplayer. He'll take any opportunity to kill and steal from his teammates,
* [[invoked]] ExecutiveMeddling: After finally playing a session of Hackmaster, she decided lots of changes needed to be made, which basically ruined the game. Based on the protests, the game has some
* NinjaLooter: Compulsively. He was first introduced as one of these. Nitro has him on a leash but he tugs at it constantly.
* ProfessionalButtKisser: Frequently tries to suck up to Nitro with
* TyrantTakesTheHelm: How the Hard 8 staff view her despite how badly Gary mismanaged the company. They are proven right since her products are terrible.
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The makers of most of the games played in the Muncie community, most notably Hackmaster. Hard 8 is loosely based on Creator/{{TSR}}, and when Hackmaster was first published in real life, all but the first foreword was written as though the Hard 8 characters were the ones writing it. Though regularly featured, the interactions between this set of characters and the Knights are infrequent and almost always indirect.
The makers of most of the games played in the Muncie community, most notably Hackmaster. Hard 8 is loosely based on Creator/{{TSR}}, and when Hackmaster was first published in real life, all but the first foreword was written as though the Hard 8 characters were the ones writing it. Though regularly featured, the interactions between this set of characters and the Knights are infrequent and almost always indirect.
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* AuthorAppeal: Not so much in the early days, when the comic strip was appearing in the backs of other publishers' magazines, but in the years since ''Knights of the Dinner Table'' and [=KenzerCo=] became associated, strips about the pitfalls of ''making'' games have replaced Hard 8's earlier function of introducing inexplicably bad products and gouging gamers for paid-by-the-minute phone support.
* {{Expy}}: Hard 8 itself is an expy of [=TSR=], but the games they produce are also typically expies of real life products Hackmaster (''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons''), World of Hackcraft (''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft''), and Spelljacked (The similarly ill-fated ''TabletopGame/{{Spellfire}}'' CCG) being some of the most common.
* HonestJohnsDealership: As noted above, many of the early Hard 8 storylines showed them cranking out questionable products and using every trick in the book to squeeze money out of gamers and game store owners.
!!Gary Jackson
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The analog for Gary Gygax (with the surname of Steve Jackson). Show to be a gambler with a fly by the seat of his pants approach to running his company and publishing new game products. After his apparent death in a plane crash, he became a sort of larger than life legend, made still larger recently when it was revealed he's not dead. Currently he's using another company to buy out products being held and (he feels) ruined by his wife who has been running the company in trust for his son.
* {{Expy}}: Hard 8 itself is an expy of [=TSR=], but the games they produce are also typically expies of real life products Hackmaster (''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons''), World of Hackcraft (''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft''), and Spelljacked (The similarly ill-fated ''TabletopGame/{{Spellfire}}'' CCG) being some of the most common.
* HonestJohnsDealership: As noted above, many of the early Hard 8 storylines showed them cranking out questionable products and using every trick in the book to squeeze money out of gamers and game store owners.
!!Gary Jackson
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The analog for Gary Gygax (with the surname of Steve Jackson). Show to be a gambler with a fly by the seat of his pants approach to running his company and publishing new game products. After his apparent death in a plane crash, he became a sort of larger than life legend, made still larger recently when it was revealed he's not dead. Currently he's using another company to buy out products being held and (he feels) ruined by his wife who has been running the company in trust for his son.
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* AuthorAppeal: Not so much in GoodCounterpart: Unlike the early days, when Black Hands who are worse than the comic strip was appearing in Knights, the backs of other publishers' magazines, but in the years since ''Knights of the Dinner Table'' Patty's Perps are optimistic and [=KenzerCo=] became associated, strips about the pitfalls of ''making'' games loving.
* RagtagBunchOfMisfits: They havereplaced Hard 8's earlier function of introducing inexplicably bad products and gouging gamers for paid-by-the-minute phone support.
* {{Expy}}: Hard 8 itself is an expy of [=TSR=],nothing in common but the games they produce are also typically expies of real life products Hackmaster (''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons''), World of Hackcraft (''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft''), and Spelljacked (The similarly ill-fated ''TabletopGame/{{Spellfire}}'' CCG) being some of the most common.
* HonestJohnsDealership: As noted above, many of the early Hard 8 storylines showed them cranking out questionable products and using every trick in the book to squeeze money out of gamers and game store owners.
!!Gary Jackson
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!!Patty Gauzweiler
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Theanalog Gamemaster. Patty is a school teacher who hosts games in her trailer and tends to take in lost souls or anyone who looks like they need some mothering. This, perhaps, explains why she was shown in her earliest appearances relentlessly pursuing [[ManChild Dave]] to resume the relationship they once had. Patty is also the Gamemaster for Gary Gygax (with the surname local but seldom shown Ladies of Steve Jackson). Show to be Hack group consisting of most of the regular female characters. Though she has a gambler basically good heart, Patty is also a master of the evil situation, once manipulating her group's entire party into jumping into a lava pit just so she could win a bet with a fly by the seat of his pants approach to running his company and publishing new game products. After his apparent death other Gamemasters in a plane crash, he became a sort of larger than life legend, made still larger recently when it was revealed he's not dead. Currently he's using another company to buy out products being held and (he feels) ruined by his wife who has been running the company in trust for his son.town.
* RagtagBunchOfMisfits: They have
* {{Expy}}: Hard 8 itself is an expy of [=TSR=],
* HonestJohnsDealership: As noted above, many of the early Hard 8 storylines showed them cranking out questionable products and using every trick in the book to squeeze money out of gamers and game store owners.
!!Gary Jackson
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!!Patty Gauzweiler
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* TheAce: Filled this role during the time he spent apparently dead as the Hard 8 staff would often fondly recall Gary's fly by the seat of his pants style of management.
* DeathFakedForYou: The solution to his KilledOffForReal plot.
* HonestJohnsDealership: Much of his attempts to market games are based on squeezing every last dime from the public despite his honest love of gaming.
* JerkWithAHeartOfJerk: Thinks of himself as a brilliant businessman; extremely self-confident; prone to giving his employees "bonuses" by unloading items he can't sell on them and calling them "bonuses".
* NoCelebritiesWereHarmed: What many people assumed he was. Jolly actually says he was based on the weird idea he had as a teenager that game designers were rich rockstar executives.
* KilledOffForReal: Jolly Blackburn became wary of people assuming Gary was meant to be a parody of RL individuals and did this. He eventually came to regret it.
* PetTheDog: While undeniably a {{Jerkass}}, he does have moments where he'll display a decent streak. Sure, he's probably working some kind of angle, and quite often he's scheming to catch people off-guard so he can screw them over, but he ''does'' have his moments.
!![=JoJo=] Zeke
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Second in command who became the man to run the show on site after Jackson's death. Zeke, like Jackson cares passionately about Hackmaster and the work he puts into it. After Gary's death, he was shown being worn to the core by the demands of Heidi Jackson until he finally quit.
* DeathFakedForYou: The solution to his KilledOffForReal plot.
* HonestJohnsDealership: Much of his attempts to market games are based on squeezing every last dime from the public despite his honest love of gaming.
* JerkWithAHeartOfJerk: Thinks of himself as a brilliant businessman; extremely self-confident; prone to giving his employees "bonuses" by unloading items he can't sell on them and calling them "bonuses".
* NoCelebritiesWereHarmed: What many people assumed he was. Jolly actually says he was based on the weird idea he had as a teenager that game designers were rich rockstar executives.
* KilledOffForReal: Jolly Blackburn became wary of people assuming Gary was meant to be a parody of RL individuals and did this. He eventually came to regret it.
* PetTheDog: While undeniably a {{Jerkass}}, he does have moments where he'll display a decent streak. Sure, he's probably working some kind of angle, and quite often he's scheming to catch people off-guard so he can screw them over, but he ''does'' have his moments.
!![=JoJo=] Zeke
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Second in command who became the man to run the show on site after Jackson's death. Zeke, like Jackson cares passionately about Hackmaster and the work he puts into it. After Gary's death, he was shown being worn to the core by the demands of Heidi Jackson until he finally quit.
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* TheAce: Filled this role during EightiesHair: Has a particularly lush and large do.
* FriendToAllChildren: She seems to adore and be adored by all of Muncie’s kids.
* HeroesWantRedheads: BA certainly does.
* InformedAttractiveness: She's supposed to be quite attractive, but drawing attractive women isn't really Jolly's strong point. Her appearance is kind of an artifact; later 'pretty girl' characters are drawn more attractively, but changing Patty's model might make thetime he spent apparently dead as the Hard 8 staff would often fondly recall Gary's fly by the seat of his pants style of management.
character unrecognizable.
*DeathFakedForYou: The solution to his KilledOffForReal plot.
* HonestJohnsDealership: Much of his attempts to market games are based on squeezing every last dime from the public despite his honest love of gaming.
* JerkWithAHeartOfJerk: Thinks of himself as a brilliant businessman; extremely self-confident; prone to giving his employees "bonuses" by unloading items he can't sell on them and calling them "bonuses".
* NoCelebritiesWereHarmed: What many people assumed he was. JollyMisplacedKindergartenTeacher: Patty actually says he was based on ''is'' a kindergarten teacher. However, she has difficulties turning the weird idea he had as a teenager that game designers were rich rockstar executives.
* KilledOffForReal: Jolly Blackburn became wary of people assuming Gary was meant to be a parody of RL individualsattitude off and did this. He eventually came ends up treating her gaming group like a bunch of preschoolers, including a "Time Out Corner" with "5 points to regret it.
* PetTheDog: While undeniably a {{Jerkass}}, he does have moments where he'll display a decent streak. Sure, he's probably workingponder".
** Given the way somekind of angle, and quite often he's scheming to catch people off-guard so he can screw gamers act in this comic, treating them over, like preschoolers might be giving them too much credit.
* TeamMom: All up and down the line, she cares for her group very much buthe ''does'' have his moments.
!![=JoJo=] Zeke
also disciplines them like her students.
!!Chad Aguilar
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Second in command who becameorg/pmwiki/pub/images/chad_a.jpg]]
A long time member of theman group. Though Chad fits in socially as a college student, he started gaming in middle school where his munchkin tendencies kept him away from other gaming tables leading Patty to run take him in. Today, he's more the show on site after Jackson's death. Zeke, like Jackson cares passionately about Hackmaster and the work he puts into it. After Gary's death, he was shown being worn team spitfire, easily irritated but a bit more mature as a player. Recently, Chad has been bringing his pacifist fiancee Reese to the core table; she's more than a little disturbed by all the demands of Heidi Jackson until he finally quit.violence in these games.
* FriendToAllChildren: She seems to adore and be adored by all of Muncie’s kids.
* HeroesWantRedheads: BA certainly does.
* InformedAttractiveness: She's supposed to be quite attractive, but drawing attractive women isn't really Jolly's strong point. Her appearance is kind of an artifact; later 'pretty girl' characters are drawn more attractively, but changing Patty's model might make the
*
* HonestJohnsDealership: Much of his attempts to market games are based on squeezing every last dime from the public despite his honest love of gaming.
* JerkWithAHeartOfJerk: Thinks of himself as a brilliant businessman; extremely self-confident; prone to giving his employees "bonuses" by unloading items he can't sell on them and calling them "bonuses".
* NoCelebritiesWereHarmed: What many people assumed he was. Jolly
* KilledOffForReal: Jolly Blackburn became wary of people assuming Gary was meant to be a parody of RL individuals
* PetTheDog: While undeniably a {{Jerkass}}, he does have moments where he'll display a decent streak. Sure, he's probably working
** Given the way some
* TeamMom: All up and down the line, she cares for her group very much but
!![=JoJo=] Zeke
!!Chad Aguilar
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Second in command who became
A long time member of the
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* TheDragon: Oddly, whether Gary or Heidi is in charge of the company, [=JoJo=] gravitates to the position of second-in-command.
* HeroOfAnotherStory: [=JoJo=] is the only Hard8 character who shows up regularly in Muncie to interact with the regular cast. This is because one of his many duties is putting an end to crises... and the gamers in Muncie tend to create crises. They're his biggest headache.
** Except possibly [[NoodleIncident the rogue gamer chapters out in Idaho.]]
!!"Waco" Bob Forsey
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The old man of the group. During Gary's tenure as head of the company, Bob got along largely by agreeing with everything Gary said. This may have been the reason he was the first to get fired when Heidi took over. Tuley quietly organized a campaign where the other employees took a pay cut to get him re-hired.
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* YesMan: As noted, all he ever did at Hard 8 staff meetings was agree with Gary Jackson's pronouncements. According to the [[WordOfGod cast list]], his playtest reports described every newly developed game as "the next TabletopGame/HackMaster".
!!Pete "Skip" Skipowski
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* HeroOfAnotherStory: [=JoJo=] is the only Hard8 character who shows up regularly in Muncie to interact with the regular cast. This is because one of his many duties is putting an end to crises... and the gamers in Muncie tend to create crises. They're his biggest headache.
** Except possibly [[NoodleIncident the rogue gamer chapters out in Idaho.]]
!!"Waco" Bob Forsey
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The old man of the group. During Gary's tenure as head of the company, Bob got along largely by agreeing with everything Gary said. This may have been the reason he was the first to get fired when Heidi took over. Tuley quietly organized a campaign where the other employees took a pay cut to get him re-hired.
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* YesMan: As noted, all he ever did at Hard 8 staff meetings was agree with Gary Jackson's pronouncements. According to the [[WordOfGod cast list]], his playtest reports described every newly developed game as "the next TabletopGame/HackMaster".
!!Pete "Skip" Skipowski
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* TheDragon: Oddly, whether Gary or Heidi is in charge ClosetGeek: Chad was very, very reluctant to reveal his hobby to Reese - to the point of hiring [[HookerWithAHeartOfGold Trish]] to impersonate her when the group insisted on being allowed to meet 'Reese'.
* HotBlooded: To a lesser extent than Bob but still present.
* SatelliteCharacter: He's less flawed, and therefore less amusing: he doesn't get much screen time of his own.
!!Eddie "Tank" Rodriguez
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Pretty much the embodiment of thecompany, [=JoJo=] gravitates modern gamer geek stereotype, Tank is a large, obese, hairy, timid, thoughtful man who is awkward around women (even by KODT standards.) He's gentle to the position point of second-in-command.
* HeroOfAnotherStory: [=JoJo=] isbeing an emotional doormat for the rest of the group. For a long time, the only Hard8 other character who shows up regularly in Muncie he was known to interact associate with outside of the regular cast. Perps was Trish, from the Ladies of Hack. This is because was expanded slightly by the Java Joint spinoff strip, which showed him in a book club with Patty and Sara.
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* AscendedExtra: One of the stars of the Java Joint strips with Sarah and Patty.
* GentleGiant: He's a larger character but one ofhis many duties is putting an end to crises... and the least violent gamers in Muncie tend Muncie.
* PlatonicProstitution: He hired Trish tocreate crises. They're his biggest headache.
** Except possibly [[NoodleIncidentgame with him. She enjoyed it enough to join the rogue gamer chapters out in Idaho.]]
!!"Waco" Bob Forsey
Ladies of Hack and came to like Tank enough to give him gifts that probably offset most of what she was paid.
!!Leslie "Crutch" Humphries
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The old man of the group. During Gary's tenure as head of the company, Bob got along largely by agreeing with everything Gary said. This may have been the reason he was the first to get fired when Heidi took over. Tuley quietly organized a campaign where the other employees took a pay cut to get him re-hired.
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* YesMan: As noted, all he ever did at Hard 8 staff meetings was agree with Gary Jackson's pronouncements. According to the [[WordOfGod cast list]], his playtest reports described every newly developed game as "the next TabletopGame/HackMaster".
!!Pete "Skip" Skipowski
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* HotBlooded: To a lesser extent than Bob but still present.
* SatelliteCharacter: He's less flawed, and therefore less amusing: he doesn't get much screen time of his own.
!!Eddie "Tank" Rodriguez
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Pretty much the embodiment of the
* HeroOfAnotherStory: [=JoJo=] is
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* AscendedExtra: One of the stars of the Java Joint strips with Sarah and Patty.
* GentleGiant: He's a larger character but one of
* PlatonicProstitution: He hired Trish to
** Except possibly [[NoodleIncident
!!"Waco" Bob Forsey
!!Leslie "Crutch" Humphries
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The old man of the group. During Gary's tenure as head of the company, Bob got along largely by agreeing with everything Gary said. This may have been the reason he was the first to get fired when Heidi took over. Tuley quietly organized a campaign where the other employees took a pay cut to get him re-hired.
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* YesMan: As noted, all he ever did at Hard 8 staff meetings was agree with Gary Jackson's pronouncements. According to the [[WordOfGod cast list]], his playtest reports described every newly developed game as "the next TabletopGame/HackMaster".
!!Pete "Skip" Skipowski
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A college buddy of Gary Jackson's who became a game designer for Hard 8 when the company was formed.
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* SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute: At one point when [=JoJo=] was unavailable, Skip was sent to deal with the [[RunningGag latest "problem in Muncie".]]
!!Edmund Finley
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A younger game designer for the company, his pet project was a game called "Abe, Babes and Roller Blades," described as a "sexy, zany, time-travelling romp through history and fashion."
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!!Tuley Priswinkle
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For a long time, Tuley was the company's unpaid customer service representative, under the impression that he was playtesting a virtual corporation computer game. He eventually became a regular employee and even sat in the boardroom for a while during Heidi's tenure.
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* SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute: At one point when [=JoJo=] was unavailable, Skip was sent to deal with the [[RunningGag latest "problem in Muncie".]]
!!Edmund Finley
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A younger game designer for the company, his pet project was a game called "Abe, Babes and Roller Blades," described as a "sexy, zany, time-travelling romp through history and fashion."
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!!Tuley Priswinkle
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For a long time, Tuley was the company's unpaid customer service representative, under the impression that he was playtesting a virtual corporation computer game. He eventually became a regular employee and even sat in the boardroom for a while during Heidi's tenure.
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* SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute: At one point when [=JoJo=] was unavailable, Skip was sent
!!Edmund Finley
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A younger
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!!Tuley Priswinkle
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* AscendedFanboy: Started working at the company's phoneline and eventually became part of the board.
* BecomingTheMask: He eventually figured out the ruse but continued to "play" the "game" because it was fun. Shortly after that, he became an actual employee.
!!Timmy Jackson
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The son and heir of Gary Jackson. Gary used to let Timmy create material for the game in an egregious example of nepotism (the kid was eight, and it showed in his work). After Gary's death, Heidi sent him off to military school, where he discovered football and girls and decided roleplaying games were uncool.
* BecomingTheMask: He eventually figured out the ruse but continued to "play" the "game" because it was fun. Shortly after that, he became an actual employee.
!!Timmy Jackson
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The son and heir of Gary Jackson. Gary used to let Timmy create material for the game in an egregious example of nepotism (the kid was eight, and it showed in his work). After Gary's death, Heidi sent him off to military school, where he discovered football and girls and decided roleplaying games were uncool.
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* AscendedFanboy: Started working at AllBikersAreHellsAngels: A hulking, brutish ex-con motorcyclist.
* BreakoutCharacter: He's become one of thecompany's phoneline most popular characters; he's the oddball who can't quite fit into an otherwise fairly well-adjusted group.
* ChronicBackstabbingDisorder: Has mostly recovered from this but even to this day he charges for the healing his cleric "Friar Swayze" doles out.
* EmbarrassingFirstName: Leslie.
* HeelFaceTurn: When introduced, he's an ex-con who still seems willing to engage in criminal behavior but he makes an earnest effort to go straight for his old lady and eventuallybecame part becomes an honorable JerkWithAHeartOfGold.
** The turning point comes when [[ItMakesSenseInContext he winds up locked up in prison]] with the Black Hands and insists on playing the Western RPG Cattlepunk. These were his [[AlwaysChaoticEvil earliest days]] in the hobby, so the Black Hands spent most of their time rolling up new characters and trying to avoid being gunned down by Crutch for their starting money - [[AlwaysABiggerFish even Stevil.]]
* KillerGamemaster: He couldn't get accredited to run Hackmaster, but found his niche running an old gang-violence RPG called ''Crime Nation.'' The body count is so high that even ''Weird Pete'' thinks it's high. A lot of cast usually found at other tables have turned up at Crutch's ''Crime Nation'' game, apparently for love of theboard.
* BecomingTheMask: He eventually figured out the ruse but continued to "play" the "game" because it was fun. Shortly after that, he became an actual employee.
!!Timmy Jackson
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!!Mo
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The son A middle aged widow/ex-housewife living off life insurance and heir of Gary Jackson. Gary used to let Timmy create material for inheritance, Mo met Patty volunteering at an after school program and was excited about trying out Hackmaster. At the game in an egregious example of nepotism (the kid was eight, table, she's very outspoken and blunt but nice, which makes it showed all the more surprising when she kicks your teeth in his work). After Gary's death, Heidi sent him off to military school, where he discovered football and girls and decided roleplaying games were uncool.steals your loot.
* BreakoutCharacter: He's become one of the
* ChronicBackstabbingDisorder: Has mostly recovered from this but even to this day he charges for the healing his cleric "Friar Swayze" doles out.
* EmbarrassingFirstName: Leslie.
* HeelFaceTurn: When introduced, he's an ex-con who still seems willing to engage in criminal behavior but he makes an earnest effort to go straight for his old lady and eventually
** The turning point comes when [[ItMakesSenseInContext he winds up locked up in prison]] with the Black Hands and insists on playing the Western RPG Cattlepunk. These were his [[AlwaysChaoticEvil earliest days]] in the hobby, so the Black Hands spent most of their time rolling up new characters and trying to avoid being gunned down by Crutch for their starting money - [[AlwaysABiggerFish even Stevil.]]
* KillerGamemaster: He couldn't get accredited to run Hackmaster, but found his niche running an old gang-violence RPG called ''Crime Nation.'' The body count is so high that even ''Weird Pete'' thinks it's high. A lot of cast usually found at other tables have turned up at Crutch's ''Crime Nation'' game, apparently for love of the
* BecomingTheMask: He eventually figured out the ruse but continued to "play" the "game" because it was fun. Shortly after that, he became an actual employee.
!!Timmy Jackson
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!!Mo
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* [[invoked]]GodModeSue: InUniverse: When [=GMing=] the final round of the grudge match arc, he arbitrarily threw monsters and damage at the players. They managed to beat him by using the same tactic right back at him, causing him to break down and leave the table crying, giving the players a default win.
* {{Nepotism}}: Gary Jackson let him write Hard 8 supplements. The results were about what you would expect from an eight-year-old who doesn't know what he's doing.
!!Heidi Jackson
Gary's ex-wife and the runner of a successful paperback publishing company. Gary left Hard 8 to his son Timmy but the company is being held in trust till he turns 18 leaving Heidi to run the company as the trustee. She clearly has an axe to grind with her deceased ex but also is (presumably) trying to protect her son's legacy and make it profitable. Problem is, Hard 8 had always been a labor of love whereas Heidi expects the company to perform like hers does. This is pretty clearly a nod to Lorraine Williams (though not a direct parody) who was part of a business deal that took [=DnD=] from Creator/GaryGygax and played a role in the failure of Creator/{{TSR}}. She also released a new edition of Hackmaster, the only details for which seemed to match up with 4th edition Dungeons and Dragons from real life.
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* BadBoss: Not incompetent, she was simply mean to the Hard 8 staff, constantly cutting their budget and involving herself overly in aspects of the process she didn't really understand.
* DragonLady: Referred to as such, though she's not asian and only metaphorically fits the type.
* [[invoked]] ExecutiveMeddling: After finally playing a session of Hackmaster, she decided lots of changes needed to be made, which basically ruined the game. Based on the protests, the game has some superficial resemblance to the initial release of fourth edition ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons''. WordOfGod has said it wasn't a conscious decision but not a wrong take either.
* TyrantTakesTheHelm: How the Hard 8 staff view her despite how badly Gary mismanaged the company. They are proven right since her products are terrible.
* {{Nepotism}}: Gary Jackson let him write Hard 8 supplements. The results were about what you would expect from an eight-year-old who doesn't know what he's doing.
!!Heidi Jackson
Gary's ex-wife and the runner of a successful paperback publishing company. Gary left Hard 8 to his son Timmy but the company is being held in trust till he turns 18 leaving Heidi to run the company as the trustee. She clearly has an axe to grind with her deceased ex but also is (presumably) trying to protect her son's legacy and make it profitable. Problem is, Hard 8 had always been a labor of love whereas Heidi expects the company to perform like hers does. This is pretty clearly a nod to Lorraine Williams (though not a direct parody) who was part of a business deal that took [=DnD=] from Creator/GaryGygax and played a role in the failure of Creator/{{TSR}}. She also released a new edition of Hackmaster, the only details for which seemed to match up with 4th edition Dungeons and Dragons from real life.
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* BadBoss: Not incompetent, she was simply mean to the Hard 8 staff, constantly cutting their budget and involving herself overly in aspects of the process she didn't really understand.
* DragonLady: Referred to as such, though she's not asian and only metaphorically fits the type.
* [[invoked]] ExecutiveMeddling: After finally playing a session of Hackmaster, she decided lots of changes needed to be made, which basically ruined the game. Based on the protests, the game has some superficial resemblance to the initial release of fourth edition ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons''. WordOfGod has said it wasn't a conscious decision but not a wrong take either.
* TyrantTakesTheHelm: How the Hard 8 staff view her despite how badly Gary mismanaged the company. They are proven right since her products are terrible.
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* [[invoked]]GodModeSue: InUniverse: When [=GMing=] TheMunchkin: Mo is the final round of the grudge match arc, he arbitrarily threw monsters and damage at the players. They managed to beat him by using the same tactic right back at him, causing him to break down and leave the table crying, giving the players a default win.
* {{Nepotism}}: Gary Jackson let him write Hard 8 supplements. The results were about what you would expect from an eight-year-old who doesn't know what he's doing.
!!Heidi Jackson
Gary's ex-wife and the runner of a successful paperback publishing company. Gary left Hard 8 to his son Timmy but the company is being heldunique case in trust till he turns 18 leaving Heidi to run the company as the trustee. She clearly has an axe to grind with her deceased ex but also is (presumably) trying to protect her son's legacy and make it profitable. Problem is, Hard 8 had always been a labor of love whereas Heidi expects the company to perform like hers does. This is pretty clearly a nod to Lorraine Williams (though not a direct parody) who was part much all of fiction of a business deal middle aged female that took [=DnD=] from Creator/GaryGygax and played a role in the failure of Creator/{{TSR}}. She also released a new edition of Hackmaster, fits this trope. Probably the only details difference between her and the other munchkins is its all fun and games for which seemed to match up with 4th edition Dungeons her and Dragons from real life.
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* BadBoss: Not incompetent, she was simply mean to the Hard 8 staff, constantly cutting their budget and involving herself overly in aspects of the process she didn't really understand.
* DragonLady: Referred to as such, thoughshe's not asian and only metaphorically fits the type.
* [[invoked]] ExecutiveMeddling: After finally playing a session of Hackmaster, she decided lots of changes neededgoing to be made, which basically ruined the game. Based on the protests, the game has some superficial resemblance to the initial release of fourth edition ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons''. WordOfGod has said it wasn't a conscious decision but not a wrong take either.
* TyrantTakesTheHelm: How the Hard 8 staff viewget overly upset if things don't go her despite how badly Gary mismanaged the company. They are proven right since her products are terrible.
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* {{Nepotism}}: Gary Jackson let him write Hard 8 supplements. The results were about what you would expect from an eight-year-old who doesn't know what he's doing.
!!Heidi Jackson
Gary's ex-wife and the runner of a successful paperback publishing company. Gary left Hard 8 to his son Timmy but the company is being held
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* BadBoss: Not incompetent, she was simply mean to the Hard 8 staff, constantly cutting their budget and involving herself overly in aspects of the process she didn't really understand.
* DragonLady: Referred to as such, though
* [[invoked]] ExecutiveMeddling: After finally playing a session of Hackmaster, she decided lots of changes needed
* TyrantTakesTheHelm: How the Hard 8 staff view
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The third name level gaming group to gain continual focus in the strips. The group is known for its eclectic group of hardcases, people who mostly wouldn't fit in with normal society or even other gamers in many places. Like the other gamemasters, Patti has her quirks which include a swear jar, a time out corner, and the use of M & M's to track experience points, all of which come from Patti's background as a school teacher.
The third name level gaming group to gain continual focus in the strips. The group is known for its eclectic group of hardcases, people who mostly wouldn't fit in with normal society or even other gamers in many places. Like the other gamemasters, Patti has her quirks which include a swear jar, a time out corner, and the use of M & M's to track experience points, all of which come from Patti's background as a school teacher.
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The third name level
An all-female gaming group
!! Sheila Horowitz
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* GoodCounterpart: Unlike the Black Hands who are worse than the Knights, the Patty's Perps are optimistic and loving.
* RagtagBunchOfMisfits: They have nothing in common but gaming.
!!Patty Gauzweiler
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The Gamemaster. Patty is a school teacher who hosts games in her trailer and tends to take in lost souls or anyone who looks like they need some mothering. This, perhaps, explains why she was shown in her earliest appearances relentlessly pursuing [[ManChild Dave]] to resume the relationship they once had. Patty is also the Gamemaster for the local but seldom shown Ladies of Hack group consisting of most of the regular female characters. Though she has a basically good heart, Patty is also a master of the evil situation, once manipulating her group's entire party into jumping into a lava pit just so she could win a bet with the other Gamemasters in town.
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* BerserkButton: Brian in general hacks her off, but he really pushes her button when he ropes Bob into his schemes or takes advantage of him. And Brian put a brick on her button when he sent Bob to Hard 8 by mail and the
* DeadpanSnarker: She's got a biting comment for every occasion.
* TheDreaded: Where Brian is dreaded by gamemasters all over Muncie, Sheila is dreaded by pretty much everybody. She's got a nasty streak a mile wide, has a fondness for {{Disproportionate Retribution}}s and doesn't care overly much who
* FourEyesZeroSoul: Played straight most of the
*
* TheRealMan: Gender-flipped. Possibly the only thing she and Bob have
* SitcomArchEnemy: Has been this to B.A. and to Sara, but
!!Patty Gauzweiler
* {{Tsundere}} Used to game with the Knights until B.A. accused her of cheating and they got in a fist fight. Sheila was the big reason the Knights were leery about letting Sara join the group.
!! Bridget Keating
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* EightiesHair: Has a particularly lush and large do.
* FriendToAllChildren: She seems to adore and be adored by all of Muncie’s kids.
* HeroesWantRedheads: BA certainly does.
* InformedAttractiveness: She's supposed to be quite attractive, but drawing attractive women isn't really Jolly's strong point. Her appearance is kind of an artifact; later 'pretty girl' characters are drawn more attractively, but changing Patty's model might make the character unrecognizable.
* MisplacedKindergartenTeacher: Patty actually ''is'' a kindergarten teacher. However, she has difficulties turning the attitude off and ends up treating her gaming group like a bunch of preschoolers, including a "Time Out Corner" with "5 points to ponder".
** Given the way some gamers act in this comic, treating them like preschoolers might be giving them too much credit.
* TeamMom: All up and down the line, she cares for her group very much but also disciplines them like her students.
!!Chad Aguilar
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* FriendToAllChildren: She seems to adore and be adored by all of Muncie’s kids.
* HeroesWantRedheads: BA certainly does.
* InformedAttractiveness: She's supposed to be quite attractive, but drawing attractive women isn't really Jolly's strong point. Her appearance is kind of an artifact; later 'pretty girl' characters are drawn more attractively, but changing Patty's model might make the character unrecognizable.
* MisplacedKindergartenTeacher: Patty actually ''is'' a kindergarten teacher. However, she has difficulties turning the attitude off and ends up treating her gaming group like a bunch of preschoolers, including a "Time Out Corner" with "5 points to ponder".
** Given the way some gamers act in this comic, treating them like preschoolers might be giving them too much credit.
* TeamMom: All up and down the line, she cares for her group very much but also disciplines them like her students.
!!Chad Aguilar
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* EightiesHair: Has a particularly lush and large do.
* FriendToAllChildren: She seems to adore and be adored by all of Muncie’s kids.
* HeroesWantRedheads: BA certainly does.
* InformedAttractiveness:ArtShift: Most strongly in early appearances. She's supposed to be quite attractive, but drawing attractive women isn't really Jolly's strong point. Her appearance is kind of an artifact; later 'pretty girl' characters are still drawn more attractively, but changing Patty's model might make a lot less googly-eyed and scribble-fingered than the character unrecognizable.
rest of the cast.
*MisplacedKindergartenTeacher: Patty actually ''is'' a kindergarten teacher. However, IHaveBoobsYouMustObey: Most of the time, though hilariously subverted when she has difficulties turning tried to charm her way past a KnightTemplar guarding the attitude off door at Gary Con.
* TheVamp: Happily uses her cosplay outfits andends up treating her gaming group like a bunch of preschoolers, including a "Time Out Corner" with "5 points sex appeal to ponder".
** Given the way some gamers act in this comic, treating them like preschoolers might be giving them too much credit.
* TeamMom: All up and down the line, she cares for her group very much but also disciplines them like her students.
!!Chad Aguilar
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!!Trish
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* FriendToAllChildren: She seems to adore and be adored by all of Muncie’s kids.
* HeroesWantRedheads: BA certainly does.
* InformedAttractiveness:
*
* TheVamp: Happily uses her cosplay outfits and
** Given the way some gamers act in this comic, treating them like preschoolers might be giving them too much credit.
* TeamMom: All up and down the line, she cares for her group very much but also disciplines them like her students.
!!Chad Aguilar
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!!Trish
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A long time member of the group. Though Chad fits in socially as a college student, he started gaming in middle school where his munchkin tendencies kept him away from other gaming tables leading Patty to take him in. Today, he's more the team spitfire, easily irritated but a bit more mature as a player. Recently, Chad has been bringing his pacifist fiancee Reese to the table; she's more than a little disturbed by all the violence in these games.
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* ClosetGeek: Chad was very, very reluctant to reveal his hobby to Reese - to the point of hiring [[HookerWithAHeartOfGold Trish]] to impersonate her when the group insisted on being allowed to meet 'Reese'.
* HotBlooded: To a lesser extent than Bob but still present.
* SatelliteCharacter: He's less flawed, and therefore less amusing: he doesn't get much screen time of his own.
!!Eddie "Tank" Rodriguez
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Pretty much the embodiment of the modern gamer geek stereotype, Tank is a large, obese, hairy, timid, thoughtful man who is awkward around women (even by KODT standards.) He's gentle to the point of being an emotional doormat for the rest of the group. For a long time, the only other character he was known to associate with outside of the Perps was Trish, from the Ladies of Hack. This was expanded slightly by the Java Joint spinoff strip, which showed him in a book club with Patty and Sara.
* HotBlooded: To a lesser extent than Bob but still present.
* SatelliteCharacter: He's less flawed, and therefore less amusing: he doesn't get much screen time of his own.
!!Eddie "Tank" Rodriguez
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Pretty much the embodiment of the modern gamer geek stereotype, Tank is a large, obese, hairy, timid, thoughtful man who is awkward around women (even by KODT standards.) He's gentle to the point of being an emotional doormat for the rest of the group. For a long time, the only other character he was known to associate with outside of the Perps was Trish, from the Ladies of Hack. This was expanded slightly by the Java Joint spinoff strip, which showed him in a book club with Patty and Sara.
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* ClosetGeek: Chad HighClassCallGirl: Works with a service and in good conditions.
* HookerWithAHeartOfGold: Technically an escort with a heart of gold. She's nice to Tank and even stands up for him to his friends. Later, she buys him some really nice gaming merchandise which, to judge Weird Pete's reaction, offset a good chunk of what Tank paid for her services.
* UglyGuyHotWife: Sort of. There wasvery, very reluctant to reveal his hobby to Reese - to the point a lot of hiring [[HookerWithAHeartOfGold Trish]] to impersonate her head-scratching in Muncie when the group insisted on being allowed to meet 'Reese'.
* HotBlooded: To a lesser extent than Bob but still present.
* SatelliteCharacter: He's less flawed,Trish started showing up in public with Tank and therefore less amusing: he doesn't get much screen time of his own.
!!Eddie "Tank" Rodriguez
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[[folder:Others]]
!!Squirrely (aka Squire Lee)
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Pretty much A chimp [[AllThereInTheManual formerly used as a military research subject,]] who wound up being adopted by Weird Pete. He seems to have a solid grasp of spoken English, the embodiment of ability to read and operate a cash register (although he's never mastered the modern gamer geek stereotype, Tank is a large, obese, hairy, timid, thoughtful man who is awkward around women (even by KODT standards.) art of making change), and has even sat in on games. He's gentle to the point of being an emotional doormat for the rest of the group. For a long time, the only other character he was known to associate chain-smoker with outside a wide mean streak. Several characters have suffered AmusingInjuries as a result of the Perps was Trish, from the Ladies of Hack. This was expanded slightly by the Java Joint spinoff strip, which showed him in a book club with Patty and Sara.crossing him.
* HookerWithAHeartOfGold: Technically an escort with a heart of gold. She's nice to Tank and even stands up for him to his friends. Later, she buys him some really nice gaming merchandise which, to judge Weird Pete's reaction, offset a good chunk of what Tank paid for her services.
* UglyGuyHotWife: Sort of. There was
* HotBlooded: To a lesser extent than Bob but still present.
* SatelliteCharacter: He's less flawed,
!!Eddie "Tank" Rodriguez
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!!Squirrely (aka Squire Lee)
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* AscendedExtra: One of the stars of the Java Joint strips with Sarah and Patty.
* GentleGiant: He's a larger character but one of the least violent gamers in Muncie.
* PlatonicProstitution: He hired Trish to game with him. She enjoyed it enough to join the Ladies of Hack and came to like Tank enough to give him gifts that probably offset most of what she was paid.
!!Leslie "Crutch" Humphries
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An ex-con gone straight. Crutch met the Black Hands when they decided to game at Hawg Wallers. Crutch and others around thought the Hands were planning a bank heist (in fact, they were playing a Western RPG and were plotting to rob a bank in-game). After spending a few nights in jail with the Black Hands over this misunderstanding, Crutch fell in love with gaming and began seeking gaming groups. Unfortunately, his enthusiasm for Hack and Slash extended to killing other player's characters at the table so he couldn't find a group until BA directed him to Patty, who has made him her latest project. He has recently become a surprise hit [=GMing=] "Crime Nation," bringing realistic grittiness into his game thanks to his personal experience in crime.
* GentleGiant: He's a larger character but one of the least violent gamers in Muncie.
* PlatonicProstitution: He hired Trish to game with him. She enjoyed it enough to join the Ladies of Hack and came to like Tank enough to give him gifts that probably offset most of what she was paid.
!!Leslie "Crutch" Humphries
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An ex-con gone straight. Crutch met the Black Hands when they decided to game at Hawg Wallers. Crutch and others around thought the Hands were planning a bank heist (in fact, they were playing a Western RPG and were plotting to rob a bank in-game). After spending a few nights in jail with the Black Hands over this misunderstanding, Crutch fell in love with gaming and began seeking gaming groups. Unfortunately, his enthusiasm for Hack and Slash extended to killing other player's characters at the table so he couldn't find a group until BA directed him to Patty, who has made him her latest project. He has recently become a surprise hit [=GMing=] "Crime Nation," bringing realistic grittiness into his game thanks to his personal experience in crime.
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* AscendedExtra: One of BerserkButton: He has several, but they seem to change over time.
* HeroicComedicSociopath:
--> '''Pete:''' He stole Stevil's wallet and inhaler and crawled into thestars of the Java Joint strips heating duct.
--> '''Gordo:''' Stevil didn't crawl in after him, did he? I tried that once and he stole my glasses and gave me a reverse wedgie.
--> '''Pete:''' Nah, he's trying to flush him out withSarah the fire extinguisher.
* TheUnintelligible: Though able to understand English very well, Squirrely only speaks in ape noises.
** Lampshaded when Weird Pete - andPatty.
* GentleGiant: He'sto a larger character but one of lesser extent, Dave and Gordo - seem to get the least violent gamers in Muncie.
* PlatonicProstitution: He hired Trishgist of everything Squirrely attempts to game with him. She enjoyed it communicate. Gordo even manages to understand him well enough to join successfully play "I Spy" with him.
* NearlyNormalAnimal: Chimps are already pretty humanlike, but Squirrely takes it to theLadies of Hack and came to like Tank enough to give him gifts that probably offset most of what she was paid.
!!Leslie "Crutch" Humphries
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An ex-con gone straight. Crutch metnext level.
* UnusuallyUninterestingSight: A chimp tending theBlack Hands when they decided to cash register at your local game at Hawg Wallers. Crutch store? No big deal.
!!Croix andothers around thought the Hands were planning a bank heist (in fact, they were playing a Western RPG Hunter
Bob's Niece andwere plotting Nephew respectively. Bob occasionally tries to rob a bank in-game). After spending a few nights in jail with the Black Hands over this misunderstanding, Crutch fell in love with gaming run games for them and began seeking gaming groups. Unfortunately, his enthusiasm for Hack and Slash extended to killing other player's characters at the table so he couldn't find a group until BA directed him to Patty, who sometimes has made him her latest project. He to borrow Croix's laptop to play World of Hackcraft. Croix has recently become a surprise hit [=GMing=] "Crime Nation," bringing realistic grittiness into his game thanks to his personal experience in crime.an innocent crush on Dave.
* HeroicComedicSociopath:
--> '''Pete:''' He stole Stevil's wallet and inhaler and crawled into the
--> '''Gordo:''' Stevil didn't crawl in after him, did he? I tried that once and he stole my glasses and gave me a reverse wedgie.
--> '''Pete:''' Nah, he's trying to flush him out with
* TheUnintelligible: Though able to understand English very well, Squirrely only speaks in ape noises.
** Lampshaded when Weird Pete - and
* GentleGiant: He's
* PlatonicProstitution: He hired Trish
* NearlyNormalAnimal: Chimps are already pretty humanlike, but Squirrely takes it to the
!!Leslie "Crutch" Humphries
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An ex-con gone straight. Crutch met
* UnusuallyUninterestingSight: A chimp tending the
!!Croix and
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* AllBikersAreHellsAngels: A hulking, brutish ex-con motorcyclist.
* BreakoutCharacter: He's become one of the most popular characters; he's the oddball who can't quite fit into an otherwise fairly well-adjusted group.
* ChronicBackstabbingDisorder: Has mostly recovered from this but even to this day he charges for the healing his cleric "Friar Swayze" doles out.
* EmbarrassingFirstName: Leslie.
* HeelFaceTurn: When introduced, he's an ex-con who still seems willing to engage in criminal behavior but he makes an earnest effort to go straight for his old lady and eventually becomes an honorable JerkWithAHeartOfGold.
** The turning point comes when [[ItMakesSenseInContext he winds up locked up in prison]] with the Black Hands and insists on playing the Western RPG Cattlepunk. These were his [[AlwaysChaoticEvil earliest days]] in the hobby, so the Black Hands spent most of their time rolling up new characters and trying to avoid being gunned down by Crutch for their starting money - [[AlwaysABiggerFish even Stevil.]]
* KillerGamemaster: He couldn't get accredited to run Hackmaster, but found his niche running an old gang-violence RPG called ''Crime Nation.'' The body count is so high that even ''Weird Pete'' thinks it's high. A lot of cast usually found at other tables have turned up at Crutch's ''Crime Nation'' game, apparently for love of the challenge.
!!Mo
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A middle aged widow/ex-housewife living off life insurance and inheritance, Mo met Patty volunteering at an after school program and was excited about trying out Hackmaster. At the table, she's very outspoken and blunt but nice, which makes it all the more surprising when she kicks your teeth in and steals your loot.
* BreakoutCharacter: He's become one of the most popular characters; he's the oddball who can't quite fit into an otherwise fairly well-adjusted group.
* ChronicBackstabbingDisorder: Has mostly recovered from this but even to this day he charges for the healing his cleric "Friar Swayze" doles out.
* EmbarrassingFirstName: Leslie.
* HeelFaceTurn: When introduced, he's an ex-con who still seems willing to engage in criminal behavior but he makes an earnest effort to go straight for his old lady and eventually becomes an honorable JerkWithAHeartOfGold.
** The turning point comes when [[ItMakesSenseInContext he winds up locked up in prison]] with the Black Hands and insists on playing the Western RPG Cattlepunk. These were his [[AlwaysChaoticEvil earliest days]] in the hobby, so the Black Hands spent most of their time rolling up new characters and trying to avoid being gunned down by Crutch for their starting money - [[AlwaysABiggerFish even Stevil.]]
* KillerGamemaster: He couldn't get accredited to run Hackmaster, but found his niche running an old gang-violence RPG called ''Crime Nation.'' The body count is so high that even ''Weird Pete'' thinks it's high. A lot of cast usually found at other tables have turned up at Crutch's ''Crime Nation'' game, apparently for love of the challenge.
!!Mo
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A middle aged widow/ex-housewife living off life insurance and inheritance, Mo met Patty volunteering at an after school program and was excited about trying out Hackmaster. At the table, she's very outspoken and blunt but nice, which makes it all the more surprising when she kicks your teeth in and steals your loot.
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* AllBikersAreHellsAngels: A hulking, brutish ex-con motorcyclist.
* BreakoutCharacter: He's become one of the most popular characters; he's the oddball who can't quite fit into an otherwise fairly well-adjusted group.
* ChronicBackstabbingDisorder: Has mostly recovered from this but even to this day he charges for the healing his cleric "Friar Swayze" doles out.
* EmbarrassingFirstName: Leslie.
* HeelFaceTurn: When introduced, he's an ex-con who still seems willing to engage in criminal behavior but hePrecociousCrush: Croix has a crush on Dave. She's probably ten. It makes an earnest effort to go straight for his old lady and eventually becomes an honorable JerkWithAHeartOfGold.
** The turning point comes when [[ItMakesSenseInContext he winds up locked up in prison]] with the Black Hands and insists on playing the Western RPG Cattlepunk. These were his [[AlwaysChaoticEvil earliest days]] in the hobby, so the Black Hands spent most of their time rolling up new characters and trying to avoid being gunned down by Crutch for their starting money - [[AlwaysABiggerFish even Stevil.]]
* KillerGamemaster: He couldn't get accredited to run Hackmaster, but found his niche running an old gang-violence RPG called ''Crime Nation.'' The body count is so high that even ''Weird Pete'' thinks it's high. A lot of cast usually found at other tables have turned up at Crutch's ''Crime Nation'' game, apparently for love of the challenge.
!!Mo
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!! Ty Ferfel
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Nitro's nephew. Amiddle aged widow/ex-housewife living off life insurance young gamer that hangs out on the periphery of the community and inheritance, Mo met Patty volunteering at an after school program and was excited about trying out Hackmaster. At is often involved in under the table, she's very outspoken and blunt but nice, which makes it all the more surprising when she kicks your teeth in and steals your loot.table dealings.
* BreakoutCharacter: He's become one of the most popular characters; he's the oddball who can't quite fit into an otherwise fairly well-adjusted group.
* ChronicBackstabbingDisorder: Has mostly recovered from this but even to this day he charges for the healing his cleric "Friar Swayze" doles out.
* EmbarrassingFirstName: Leslie.
* HeelFaceTurn: When introduced, he's an ex-con who still seems willing to engage in criminal behavior but he
** The turning point comes when [[ItMakesSenseInContext he winds up locked up in prison]] with the Black Hands and insists on playing the Western RPG Cattlepunk. These were his [[AlwaysChaoticEvil earliest days]] in the hobby, so the Black Hands spent most of their time rolling up new characters and trying to avoid being gunned down by Crutch for their starting money - [[AlwaysABiggerFish even Stevil.]]
* KillerGamemaster: He couldn't get accredited to run Hackmaster, but found his niche running an old gang-violence RPG called ''Crime Nation.'' The body count is so high that even ''Weird Pete'' thinks it's high. A lot of cast usually found at other tables have turned up at Crutch's ''Crime Nation'' game, apparently for love of the challenge.
!!Mo
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!! Ty Ferfel
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Nitro's nephew. A
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* TheMunchkin: Mo is the unique case in pretty much all of fiction of a middle aged female that fits this trope. Probably the only difference between her and the other munchkins is its all fun and games for her and she's not going to get overly upset if things don't go her way.
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[[folder:Ladies of Hack]]
An all-female gaming group that meets separately from the male-dominated Muncie gaming community (though nearly all of them have other groups they play with regularly and for tournament purposes). They're also part of a larger organization of the same name that lobbies Hard8 and the TabletopGame/HackMaster Players' Association to change the sexist depictions of women and some of the more chauvinistic rules (such as the Strength penalty for female characters.) The local group is run by Patty Gauzweiler. Although the LoH are only rarely shown actually gaming, their membership includes most of the strip's prominent female gamers, including Sara, Patty, and several others.
!! Sheila Horowitz
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First mentioned offscreen as the female gamer who beat up B.A. over an in-game dispute, Sheila didn't become an on-screen character for a long time. For a while she was nearly a nemesis of the Knights: then she rather unexpectedly started dating Bob - partly out of admiration for Bob's commitment to the game and partly because he needs mothering. Tends to play [[KnightInSourArmor Knight Errants]].
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[[folder:Ladies of Hack]]
An all-female gaming group that meets separately from the male-dominated Muncie gaming community (though nearly all of them have other groups they play with regularly and for tournament purposes). They're also part of a larger organization of the same name that lobbies Hard8 and the TabletopGame/HackMaster Players' Association to change the sexist depictions of women and some of the more chauvinistic rules (such as the Strength penalty for female characters.) The local group is run by Patty Gauzweiler. Although the LoH are only rarely shown actually gaming, their membership includes most of the strip's prominent female gamers, including Sara, Patty, and several others.
!! Sheila Horowitz
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First mentioned offscreen as the female gamer who beat up B.A. over an in-game dispute, Sheila didn't become an on-screen character for a long time. For a while she was nearly a nemesis of the Knights: then she rather unexpectedly started dating Bob - partly out of admiration for Bob's commitment to the game and partly because he needs mothering. Tends to play [[KnightInSourArmor Knight Errants]].
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* TheMunchkin: Mo is the unique case in pretty much all of fiction of a middle aged female that fits this trope. Probably the only difference between her and the other munchkins is its all fun and games for her and she's not going to get overly upset if things don't go her way.
[[/folder]]
[[folder:Ladies of Hack]]
An all-female gaming group that meets separately from the male-dominated Muncie gaming community (though nearly all of them have other groups they play with regularly and for tournament purposes). They're also part of a larger organization of the same name that lobbies Hard8 and the TabletopGame/HackMaster Players' Association to change the sexist depictions of women and some of the more chauvinistic rules (such as the Strength penalty for female characters.) The local group is run by Patty Gauzweiler. Although the LoH are only rarely shownConsummateProfessional: He actually gaming, their membership includes most of is this regards to gaming and is so to the strip's prominent female gamers, including Sara, Patty, and several others.
point of being paid as a temp.
!!Sheila Horowitz
Earl Slackmozer
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First mentioned offscreen as the female gamer A rival gamemaster who beat up gets a lot of buzz when he first comes to town, having had a module published by Hard 8 (something B.A. over an in-game dispute, Sheila didn't has long tried and failed). At first seems to be the superstar but eventually loses his shine and after being humbled, he and B.A. become an on-screen character for a long time. For a while she was nearly a nemesis of the Knights: then she rather unexpectedly started dating Bob - partly out of admiration for Bob's commitment to the game and partly because he needs mothering. Tends to play [[KnightInSourArmor Knight Errants]].friends. Earl currently works at Weird Pete's shop.
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An all-female gaming group that meets separately from the male-dominated Muncie gaming community (though nearly all of them have other groups they play with regularly and for tournament purposes). They're also part of a larger organization of the same name that lobbies Hard8 and the TabletopGame/HackMaster Players' Association to change the sexist depictions of women and some of the more chauvinistic rules (such as the Strength penalty for female characters.) The local group is run by Patty Gauzweiler. Although the LoH are only rarely shown
!!
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* AwwLookTheyReallyDoLoveEachOther: With Bob. As hard as she is on him, and as much as she talks down on/to him, she really ''does'' love him.
* BerserkButton: Brian in general hacks her off, but he really pushes her button when he ropes Bob into his schemes or takes advantage of him. And Brian put a brick on her button when he sent Bob to Hard 8 by mail and the box got ''lost in transit'', and then not even a few weeks later cons Bob into giving him Bob and Sheila's ''rent money'' to finance another scheme. It's only a small exaggeration to say Brian's lucky Sheila didn't kill him.
* DeadpanSnarker: She's got a biting comment for every occasion.
* TheDreaded: Where Brian is dreaded by gamemasters all over Muncie, Sheila is dreaded by pretty much everybody. She's got a nasty streak a mile wide, has a fondness for {{Disproportionate Retribution}}s and doesn't care overly much who gets caught in the crossfire.
* FourEyesZeroSoul: Played straight most of the time; Sheila is ''not'' a nice person and can in fact be decidedly ''awful'' to people around her -- but it gets subverted when she starts dating Bob and her gentler side comes forward a little more.
* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: When she finally meets Bob's father and realizes how abusive Bob Sr. is to his son, Sheila finally gets a look at what her treatment of Bob looks like from the outside, and it doesn't make her happy.
* TheRealMan: Gender-flipped. Possibly the only thing she and Bob have in common: they're there to kill things.
* SitcomArchEnemy: Has been this to B.A. and to Sara, but nowadays she regards her feud with Brian as SeriousBusiness.
* {{Tsundere}} Used to game with the Knights until B.A. accused her of cheating and they got in a fist fight. Sheila was the big reason the Knights were leery about letting Sara join the group.
!! Bridget Keating
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First introduced when the Knights players one by one get caught up in a Vampire LARP. Bridget was a clan leader and tended to use her *ahem* assets and her willingness to Cosplay along with her clan authority to get the guys to do whatever she wanted. Though she's calmed down she's still almost always seen in some kind of sexy cosplay outfit.
* BerserkButton: Brian in general hacks her off, but he really pushes her button when he ropes Bob into his schemes or takes advantage of him. And Brian put a brick on her button when he sent Bob to Hard 8 by mail and the box got ''lost in transit'', and then not even a few weeks later cons Bob into giving him Bob and Sheila's ''rent money'' to finance another scheme. It's only a small exaggeration to say Brian's lucky Sheila didn't kill him.
* DeadpanSnarker: She's got a biting comment for every occasion.
* TheDreaded: Where Brian is dreaded by gamemasters all over Muncie, Sheila is dreaded by pretty much everybody. She's got a nasty streak a mile wide, has a fondness for {{Disproportionate Retribution}}s and doesn't care overly much who gets caught in the crossfire.
* FourEyesZeroSoul: Played straight most of the time; Sheila is ''not'' a nice person and can in fact be decidedly ''awful'' to people around her -- but it gets subverted when she starts dating Bob and her gentler side comes forward a little more.
* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: When she finally meets Bob's father and realizes how abusive Bob Sr. is to his son, Sheila finally gets a look at what her treatment of Bob looks like from the outside, and it doesn't make her happy.
* TheRealMan: Gender-flipped. Possibly the only thing she and Bob have in common: they're there to kill things.
* SitcomArchEnemy: Has been this to B.A. and to Sara, but nowadays she regards her feud with Brian as SeriousBusiness.
* {{Tsundere}} Used to game with the Knights until B.A. accused her of cheating and they got in a fist fight. Sheila was the big reason the Knights were leery about letting Sara join the group.
!! Bridget Keating
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First introduced when the Knights players one by one get caught up in a Vampire LARP. Bridget was a clan leader and tended to use her *ahem* assets and her willingness to Cosplay along with her clan authority to get the guys to do whatever she wanted. Though she's calmed down she's still almost always seen in some kind of sexy cosplay outfit.
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* BerserkButton: Brian
* DeadpanSnarker: She's got a biting comment for every occasion.
* TheDreaded: Where Brian is dreaded by gamemasters all over Muncie, Sheila is dreaded by pretty much everybody. She's got a nasty streak a mile wide, has a fondness for {{Disproportionate Retribution}}s and doesn't care overly much who gets caught in the crossfire.
* FourEyesZeroSoul: Played straight most of the time; Sheila is ''not'' a nice person and can in fact be decidedly ''awful'' to people around her -- but it gets subverted when she starts dating Bob and her gentler side comes forward a little more.
* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: When she finally meets Bob's father and realizes how abusive Bob Sr. is to his son, Sheila finally gets a look at what her treatment of Bob looks like from the outside, and it doesn't make her happy.
* TheRealMan: Gender-flipped. Possibly the only thing she and Bob have in common: they're there to kill things.
* SitcomArchEnemy: Has been this to
* OutOfFocus: He still has a gaming group in Muncie, but he hasn't featured in any stories to speak of for a while.
* TheRival: BA and he used to
* {{Tsundere}} Used to game with
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* ArtShift: Most strongly in early appearances. She's still drawn a lot less googly-eyed and scribble-fingered than the rest of the cast.
* IHaveBoobsYouMustObey: Most of the time, though hilariously subverted when she tried to charm her way past a KnightTemplar guarding the door at Gary Con.
* TheVamp: Happily uses her cosplay outfits and sex appeal to control others.
!!Trish
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* IHaveBoobsYouMustObey: Most of the time, though hilariously subverted when she tried to charm her way past a KnightTemplar guarding the door at Gary Con.
* TheVamp: Happily uses her cosplay outfits and sex appeal to control others.
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* ArtShift: Most strongly in early appearances. She's still drawn a lot less googly-eyed and scribble-fingered than BornLucky: Until the rest of the cast.
* IHaveBoobsYouMustObey: Most of the time, though hilariously subvertedNoodleIncident when she tried to charm her way past a KnightTemplar guarding the door at Gary Con.his dice turned on him.
*TheVamp: Happily uses her cosplay outfits CasanovaWannabe: And he's married.
* FallenHero: This was the attitude B.A, Bob, Dave andsex appeal Brian all had toward him before his return to control others.
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!! Switch
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* IHaveBoobsYouMustObey: Most of the time, though hilariously subverted
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* HighClassCallGirl: Works with a service and in good conditions.
* HookerWithAHeartOfGold: Technically an escort with a heart of gold. She's nice to Tank and even stands up for him to his friends. Later, she buys him some really nice gaming merchandise which, to judge Weird Pete's reaction, offset a good chunk of what Tank paid for her services.
* UglyGuyHotWife: Sort of. There was a lot of head-scratching in Muncie when Trish started showing up in public with Tank and appeared to be dating him.
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!!Squirrely (aka Squire Lee)
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A chimp [[AllThereInTheManual formerly used as a military research subject,]] who wound up being adopted by Weird Pete. He seems to have a solid grasp of spoken English, the ability to read and operate a cash register (although he's never mastered the art of making change), and has even sat in on games. He's a chain-smoker with a wide mean streak. Several characters have suffered AmusingInjuries as a result of crossing him.
* HookerWithAHeartOfGold: Technically an escort with a heart of gold. She's nice to Tank and even stands up for him to his friends. Later, she buys him some really nice gaming merchandise which, to judge Weird Pete's reaction, offset a good chunk of what Tank paid for her services.
* UglyGuyHotWife: Sort of. There was a lot of head-scratching in Muncie when Trish started showing up in public with Tank and appeared to be dating him.
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!!Squirrely (aka Squire Lee)
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A chimp [[AllThereInTheManual formerly used as a military research subject,]] who wound up being adopted by Weird Pete. He seems to have a solid grasp of spoken English, the ability to read and operate a cash register (although he's never mastered the art of making change), and has even sat in on games. He's a chain-smoker with a wide mean streak. Several characters have suffered AmusingInjuries as a result of crossing him.
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* HighClassCallGirl: Works with AndYouThoughtItWasAGame: After Bob stumbles on Switch planning a service heist and in good conditions.
* HookerWithAHeartOfGold: Technically an escort with a heart of gold. She's nice to Tank and even stands upmistakes it for him to his friends. Later, she buys him some really nice a gaming merchandise which, to judge session, Switch plays along and picks his brain for useful tips.
* AndYouThoughtItWasReal: When Switch stumbles on Tank giving Crutch pointers on gamemastering and overhears casual comments about slitting throats and attacking people with flaming oil, he backs away and gets a drink, thinking that Crutch has fallen in with some stone-cold psycho.
* TheStoolPigeon: After getting caught at the scene of a heist, he gives up WeirdPete's reaction, offset Pete (who had filled in for Bob as "game session consultant") to save his own neck. The only reason he doesn't give up Bob is that Bob was too useful to lose.
* TooCleverByHalf: Bob's gaming experience and commitment to roleplaying thieves certainly gives him a goodchunk of what Tank paid mindset for her services.
* UglyGuyHotWife: Sort of. Thereplanning heists but Switch was a lot of head-scratching in Muncie when Trish started showing up in public with Tank and appeared pushing his luck continuing to rely on Bob. Switch must [[GenreSavvy not be dating him.
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!!Squirrely (aka Squire Lee)
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!! Cody Winkle
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A chimp [[AllThereInTheManual formerly used as Seen at a military research subject,]] who wound up being adopted by Weird Pete. He seems to have a solid grasp number of spoken English, the ability to read and operate a cash register (although he's game tables but has never mastered the art of making change), and has fit in with a group... not even sat in on games. the Black Hands. He's a chain-smoker with a wide mean streak. Several characters have suffered AmusingInjuries as a result of crossing him.local actor who likes to use his acting skills at the table and is known for his commitment to story and characterization over game play.
* HookerWithAHeartOfGold: Technically an escort with a heart of gold. She's nice to Tank and even stands up
* AndYouThoughtItWasReal: When Switch stumbles on Tank giving Crutch pointers on gamemastering and overhears casual comments about slitting throats and attacking people with flaming oil, he backs away and gets a drink, thinking that Crutch has fallen in with some stone-cold psycho.
* TheStoolPigeon: After getting caught at the scene of a heist, he gives up Weird
* TooCleverByHalf: Bob's gaming experience and commitment to roleplaying thieves certainly gives him a good
* UglyGuyHotWife: Sort of. There
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!!Squirrely (aka Squire Lee)
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!! Cody Winkle
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* BerserkButton: He has several, but they seem to change over time.
* HeroicComedicSociopath:
--> '''Pete:''' He stole Stevil's wallet and inhaler and crawled into the heating duct.
--> '''Gordo:''' Stevil didn't crawl in after him, did he? I tried that once and he stole my glasses and gave me a reverse wedgie.
--> '''Pete:''' Nah, he's trying to flush him out with the fire extinguisher.
* TheUnintelligible: Though able to understand English very well, Squirrely only speaks in ape noises.
** Lampshaded when Weird Pete - and to a lesser extent, Dave and Gordo - seem to get the gist of everything Squirrely attempts to communicate. Gordo even manages to understand him well enough to successfully play "I Spy" with him.
* NearlyNormalAnimal: Chimps are already pretty humanlike, but Squirrely takes it to the next level.
* UnusuallyUninterestingSight: A chimp tending the cash register at your local game store? No big deal.
!!Croix and Hunter
Bob's Niece and Nephew respectively. Bob occasionally tries to run games for them and sometimes has to borrow Croix's laptop to play World of Hackcraft. Croix has an innocent crush on Dave.
* HeroicComedicSociopath:
--> '''Pete:''' He stole Stevil's wallet and inhaler and crawled into the heating duct.
--> '''Gordo:''' Stevil didn't crawl in after him, did he? I tried that once and he stole my glasses and gave me a reverse wedgie.
--> '''Pete:''' Nah, he's trying to flush him out with the fire extinguisher.
* TheUnintelligible: Though able to understand English very well, Squirrely only speaks in ape noises.
** Lampshaded when Weird Pete - and to a lesser extent, Dave and Gordo - seem to get the gist of everything Squirrely attempts to communicate. Gordo even manages to understand him well enough to successfully play "I Spy" with him.
* NearlyNormalAnimal: Chimps are already pretty humanlike, but Squirrely takes it to the next level.
* UnusuallyUninterestingSight: A chimp tending the cash register at your local game store? No big deal.
!!Croix and Hunter
Bob's Niece and Nephew respectively. Bob occasionally tries to run games for them and sometimes has to borrow Croix's laptop to play World of Hackcraft. Croix has an innocent crush on Dave.
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* BerserkButton: He has several, but they seem TheRoleplayer: Carried to change over time.
* HeroicComedicSociopath:
--> '''Pete:''' He stole Stevil's wallet and inhaler and crawled into the heating duct.
--> '''Gordo:''' Stevil didn't crawl in after him, did he? I triedan extreme that once and he stole my glasses and gave me a reverse wedgie.
--> '''Pete:''' Nah, he's trying to flushmakes him out with intolerable!
* TalkingToThemself: Not in thefire extinguisher.
* TheUnintelligible: Though able to understand English very well, Squirrely only speaks in ape noises.
** Lampshaded when Weird Pete - and tousual way. His elf bard, Raphael Hoolizar, inherited a lesser extent, Dave and Gordo - seem to get the gist of everything Squirrely attempts to communicate. Gordo even manages to understand him well enough to successfully play "I Spy" with him.
* NearlyNormalAnimal: Chimps are already pretty humanlike, but Squirrely takes it to the next level.
* UnusuallyUninterestingSight: A chimp tending the cash register at your local game store? No big deal.
!!Croix and Hunter
brownie familiar (and hand puppet) named Hodgy from Brian.
!! Bob Herzog, Senior
Bob'sNiece and Nephew respectively. Bob father, occasionally tries referenced offscreen as an obstacle to run games for them and sometimes has to borrow Croix's laptop to play World of Hackcraft. Croix has an innocent crush on Dave.Bob's gaming before finally appearing in the comic.
* HeroicComedicSociopath:
--> '''Pete:''' He stole Stevil's wallet and inhaler and crawled into the heating duct.
--> '''Gordo:''' Stevil didn't crawl in after him, did he? I tried
--> '''Pete:''' Nah, he's trying to flush
* TalkingToThemself: Not in the
* TheUnintelligible: Though able to understand English very well, Squirrely only speaks in ape noises.
** Lampshaded when Weird Pete - and to
* NearlyNormalAnimal: Chimps are already pretty humanlike, but Squirrely takes it to the next level.
* UnusuallyUninterestingSight: A chimp tending the cash register at your local game store? No big deal.
!!Croix and Hunter
!! Bob Herzog, Senior
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* PrecociousCrush: Croix has a crush on Dave. She's probably ten. It makes him a little uncomfortable.
!! Ty Ferfel
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Nitro's nephew. A young gamer that hangs out on the periphery of the community and is often involved in under the table dealings.
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* ConsummateProfessional: He actually is this regards to gaming and is so to the point of being paid as a temp.
!! Earl Slackmozer
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A rival gamemaster who gets a lot of buzz when he first comes to town, having had a module published by Hard 8 (something B.A. has long tried and failed). At first seems to be the superstar but eventually loses his shine and after being humbled, he and B.A. become friends. Earl currently works at Weird Pete's shop.
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* TheAce: At first, in relation to B.A.. Earl is a Gamemaster in high demand and the Knights threaten to leave B.A. for him.
* OutOfFocus: He still has a gaming group in Muncie, but he hasn't featured in any stories to speak of for a while.
* TheRival: BA and he used to be this but BA won the allegiance of the gaming community handsomely.
!! Johnny Kizinski
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A Knight of the Dinner Table who left before the strips began, and has turned up a couple of times to sit in on a few games. The Knights are fond of saying "the man could play" but one day his luck ran out and he left the gaming scene. He moved away, got married, has children and runs a Big Juices. A shameless flirt and an opportunist, his overall mentality highlights how the Knights acted before Sara joined.
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* BornLucky: Until the NoodleIncident when his dice turned on him.
* CasanovaWannabe: And he's married.
* FallenHero: This was the attitude B.A, Bob, Dave and Brian all had toward him before his return to gaming.
!! Switch
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Martin "Switch" Wucjik is Crutch's "friend" and former partner in crime before Crutch went straight. Switch is still a criminal and shown to be disloyal, self serving, and a jerk. He'll commit a crime then sell out his friends for reduced sentences. He's the one who gets Bob to help him plan his heists [[AndYouThoughtItWasAGame letting Bob believe it was for a roleplaying game]].
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* AndYouThoughtItWasAGame: After Bob stumbles on Switch planning a heist and mistakes it for a gaming session, Switch plays along and picks his brain for useful tips.
* AndYouThoughtItWasReal: When Switch stumbles on Tank giving Crutch pointers on gamemastering and overhears casual comments about slitting throats and attacking people with flaming oil, he backs away and gets a drink, thinking that Crutch has fallen in with some stone-cold psycho.
* TheStoolPigeon: After getting caught at the scene of a heist, he gives up Weird Pete (who had filled in for Bob as "game session consultant") to save his own neck. The only reason he doesn't give up Bob is that Bob was too useful to lose.
* TooCleverByHalf: Bob's gaming experience and commitment to roleplaying thieves certainly gives him a good mindset for planning heists but Switch was pushing his luck continuing to rely on Bob. Switch must [[GenreSavvy not be savvy about games]] the way Bob is.
!! Cody Winkle
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Seen at a number of game tables but has never fit in with a group... not even the Black Hands. He's a local actor who likes to use his acting skills at the table and is known for his commitment to story and characterization over game play.
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* TheRoleplayer: Carried to an extreme that makes him intolerable!
* TalkingToThemself: Not in the usual way. His elf bard, Raphael Hoolizar, inherited a brownie familiar (and hand puppet) named Hodgy from Brian.
!! Bob Herzog, Senior
Bob's father, occasionally referenced offscreen as an obstacle to Bob's gaming before finally appearing in the comic.
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!! Ty Ferfel
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Nitro's nephew. A young gamer that hangs out on the periphery of the community and is often involved in under the table dealings.
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* ConsummateProfessional: He actually is this regards to gaming and is so to the point of being paid as a temp.
!! Earl Slackmozer
[[quoteright:200:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/earl_julius_slackmozer.jpg]]
A rival gamemaster who gets a lot of buzz when he first comes to town, having had a module published by Hard 8 (something B.A. has long tried and failed). At first seems to be the superstar but eventually loses his shine and after being humbled, he and B.A. become friends. Earl currently works at Weird Pete's shop.
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* TheAce: At first, in relation to B.A.. Earl is a Gamemaster in high demand and the Knights threaten to leave B.A. for him.
* OutOfFocus: He still has a gaming group in Muncie, but he hasn't featured in any stories to speak of for a while.
* TheRival: BA and he used to be this but BA won the allegiance of the gaming community handsomely.
!! Johnny Kizinski
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A Knight of the Dinner Table who left before the strips began, and has turned up a couple of times to sit in on a few games. The Knights are fond of saying "the man could play" but one day his luck ran out and he left the gaming scene. He moved away, got married, has children and runs a Big Juices. A shameless flirt and an opportunist, his overall mentality highlights how the Knights acted before Sara joined.
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* BornLucky: Until the NoodleIncident when his dice turned on him.
* CasanovaWannabe: And he's married.
* FallenHero: This was the attitude B.A, Bob, Dave and Brian all had toward him before his return to gaming.
!! Switch
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Martin "Switch" Wucjik is Crutch's "friend" and former partner in crime before Crutch went straight. Switch is still a criminal and shown to be disloyal, self serving, and a jerk. He'll commit a crime then sell out his friends for reduced sentences. He's the one who gets Bob to help him plan his heists [[AndYouThoughtItWasAGame letting Bob believe it was for a roleplaying game]].
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* AndYouThoughtItWasAGame: After Bob stumbles on Switch planning a heist and mistakes it for a gaming session, Switch plays along and picks his brain for useful tips.
* AndYouThoughtItWasReal: When Switch stumbles on Tank giving Crutch pointers on gamemastering and overhears casual comments about slitting throats and attacking people with flaming oil, he backs away and gets a drink, thinking that Crutch has fallen in with some stone-cold psycho.
* TheStoolPigeon: After getting caught at the scene of a heist, he gives up Weird Pete (who had filled in for Bob as "game session consultant") to save his own neck. The only reason he doesn't give up Bob is that Bob was too useful to lose.
* TooCleverByHalf: Bob's gaming experience and commitment to roleplaying thieves certainly gives him a good mindset for planning heists but Switch was pushing his luck continuing to rely on Bob. Switch must [[GenreSavvy not be savvy about games]] the way Bob is.
!! Cody Winkle
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Seen at a number of game tables but has never fit in with a group... not even the Black Hands. He's a local actor who likes to use his acting skills at the table and is known for his commitment to story and characterization over game play.
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* TheRoleplayer: Carried to an extreme that makes him intolerable!
* TalkingToThemself: Not in the usual way. His elf bard, Raphael Hoolizar, inherited a brownie familiar (and hand puppet) named Hodgy from Brian.
!! Bob Herzog, Senior
Bob's father, occasionally referenced offscreen as an obstacle to Bob's gaming before finally appearing in the comic.
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* TheDreaded: Where Brian is dreaded by gamemasters all over Muncie, Sheila is dreaded by pretty much everybody. She's got a nasty streak a mile wide, has a fondness for {{Dispropotionate Retribution}}s and doesn't care overly much who gets caught in the crossfire.
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* TheDreaded: Where Brian is dreaded by gamemasters all over Muncie, Sheila is dreaded by pretty much everybody. She's got a nasty streak a mile wide, has a fondness for {{Dispropotionate {{Disproportionate Retribution}}s and doesn't care overly much who gets caught in the crossfire.
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* TheChick: Played with. Although she's [[TheRoleplayer far more compassionate toward NPCs]] than the [[RuleOfFunny doofuses]] at her table, Sara herself has been known to show a mean streak. She's often visibly amused when one of the other characters suffers [[LaserGuidedKarma the consequences]] of their [[LeeroyJenkins actions.]]
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* NotSoAboveItAll: Even Sara takes dice superstitions seriously. As you'll see from the entry for RandomNumberGod on the main page, she's probably wise to do so. She's also occasionally been known to turn "evil" (i.e. against the group) to dole out righteous retribution against the other Knights, once or twice becoming the antagonist for a story arc.
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* NotSoAboveItAll: Even Sara takes dice superstitions seriously. As you'll see from the entry for RandomNumberGod on the main page, she's probably wise to do so. She's also occasionally been known to turn "evil" (i.e. against the group) to dole out righteous retribution against the other Knights, once or twice becoming the antagonist for a story arc. She's often visibly amused when one of the other characters suffers [[LaserGuidedKarma the consequences]] of their [[LeeroyJenkins actions.]]
* TheSmurfettePrinciple: The only woman at the table. Although she's [[TheRoleplayer far more compassionate toward NPCs]] than the [[RuleOfFunny doofuses]] at her table, [[BewareTheNiceOnes Sara herself has been known to show a mean streak]].
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The naive newcomer of the group though only the second newest member of the group behind Sara. Dave was brought in by Bob back in their college days and immediately took to playing fighters with the biggest swords he can get his hands on. Typically the Ditz, Dave has his moments of brilliance and the writers have explained that he's actually not that dumb, he's just really laid back. Dave's iconic character is a fighter named El Ravager with a Hackmaster +12 sword.
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The naive naïve newcomer of the group though only the second newest member of the group behind Sara. Dave was brought in by Bob back in their college days and immediately took to playing fighters with the biggest swords he can get his hands on. Typically the Ditz, Dave has his moments of brilliance and the writers have explained that he's actually not that dumb, he's just really laid back. Dave's iconic character is a fighter named El Ravager with a Hackmaster +12 sword.
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* AwwLookTheyReallyDoLoveEachOther: With Bob. As hard as she is on him, and as much as she talks down on/to him, she really ''does'' love him.
* BerserkButton: Brian in general hacks her off, but he really pushes her button when he ropes Bob into his schemes or takes advantage of him. And Brian put a brick on her button when he sent Bob to Hard 8 by mail and the box got ''lost in transit'', and then not even a few weeks later cons Bob into giving him Bob and Sheila's ''rent money'' to finance another scheme. It's only a small exaggeration to say Brian's lucky Sheila didn't kill him.
* BerserkButton: Brian in general hacks her off, but he really pushes her button when he ropes Bob into his schemes or takes advantage of him. And Brian put a brick on her button when he sent Bob to Hard 8 by mail and the box got ''lost in transit'', and then not even a few weeks later cons Bob into giving him Bob and Sheila's ''rent money'' to finance another scheme. It's only a small exaggeration to say Brian's lucky Sheila didn't kill him.
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* AwesomeMcCoolname: Hunter's first Hackmaster character: [[Franchise/StarWars Yoda]] [[WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants Squarepants]] the [[Franchise/ConanTheBarbarian Destroyer.]]
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* BerserkButton: Sexist remarks and unwanted flirting will quickly earn you a threatening shirt grab and, if you don't learn your lesson, a black eye.
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* BerserkButton: Sexist remarks and unwanted flirting will quickly earn you a [[AngryCollarGrab threatening shirt grab grab]] and, if you don't learn your lesson, a black eye.
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* AndYouThoughtItWasReal: When Switch stumbles on Tank giving Crutch pointers on gamemastering and overhears casual comments about slitting throats and attacking people with flaming oil, he backs away and gets a drink, thinking that Crutch has fallen in with some stone-cold psycho.
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* BerserkButton: They're all prone to temper but when the players are pissed off with B.A., they tend to tie him up, blindfold him and suspend him upside down above the table. He still generally thinks whatever he did to deserve it was [[WorthIt worth the consequences]].
** The Knights have been known to routinely put each other in the hospital over in-game infractions, and even Sara has been known to punch out other members of the group if they go too far. If somebody who ''isn't'' a member of the Knights tries to throw down or actually hurts a member of the team, however, ''God help him''.
** The Knights have been known to routinely put each other in the hospital over in-game infractions, and even Sara has been known to punch out other members of the group if they go too far. If somebody who ''isn't'' a member of the Knights tries to throw down or actually hurts a member of the team, however, ''God help him''.
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* BerserkButton: They're all prone to temper but when the players are pissed off with B.A., they tend to tie him up, blindfold him and suspend him upside down above the table.table for [[CatsAreMean Colonel Prowler]] to torment. He still generally thinks whatever he did to deserve it was [[WorthIt worth the consequences]].
** The Knights have been known to routinely put each other in the hospital over in-game infractions, and even Sara has been known to punch out other members of the group if they go too far. If somebody who ''isn't'' a member of the Knights tries to throw down or actually hurts a member of the team, however,''God ''[[TrueCompanions God help him''.him]]''.
** The Knights have been known to routinely put each other in the hospital over in-game infractions, and even Sara has been known to punch out other members of the group if they go too far. If somebody who ''isn't'' a member of the Knights tries to throw down or actually hurts a member of the team, however,
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* AndYouThoughtItWasAGame: After Bob stumbles on Switch planning a heist and mistakes it for a gaming session, Switch plays along and picks his brain for useful tips.
* TheStoolPigeon: After getting caught at the scene of a heist, he gives up Weird Pete (who had filled in for Bob as "game session consultant") to save his own neck. The only reason he doesn't give up Bob is that Bob was too useful to lose.
* TheStoolPigeon: After getting caught at the scene of a heist, he gives up Weird Pete (who had filled in for Bob as "game session consultant") to save his own neck. The only reason he doesn't give up Bob is that Bob was too useful to lose.
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* YoungerThanTheyLook: Bob is only 26 but due to being balding and always wearing glasses he can easily be mistaken for ten or even twenty years older.
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* BaldOfAwesome: Or maybe just bald. In flashback strips, he still had his hair.
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* CastIncest: Jolly based her on his wife, which is notable because BA is based on him.
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* TrueCompanions: They have each others' backs even at the worst of times.
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* EvilCounterpart: They have all the Knights' darker qualities but none of their TrueCompanions status.
* ChronicBackstabbingDisorder: The Black Hands are constantly betraying each other and team killing.
* EvilCounterpart: They have all the Knights' darker qualities but none of their TrueCompanions status.
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* JerkassHasAPoint: In-universe, Nitro has a lot more respect and control over his games than BA does his. His harsh style works.
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* DeathFakedForYou: The solution to his KilledOffForReal plot.
* HonestJohnsDealership: Much of his attempts to market games are based on squeezing every last dime from the public despite his honest love of gaming.
* HonestJohnsDealership: Much of his attempts to market games are based on squeezing every last dime from the public despite his honest love of gaming.
* NoCelebritiesWereHarmed: What many people assumed he was. Jolly actually says he was based on the weird idea he had as a teenager that game designers were rich rockstar executives.
* KilledOffForReal: Jolly Blackburn became wary of people assuming Gary was meant to be a parody of RL individuals and did this. He eventually came to regret it.
* KilledOffForReal: Jolly Blackburn became wary of people assuming Gary was meant to be a parody of RL individuals and did this. He eventually came to regret it.
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* [[invoked]] ExecutiveMeddling: After finally playing a session of Hackmaster, she decided lots of changes needed to be made, which basically ruined the game. Based on the protests, the game has some superficial resemblance to the initial release of fourth edition ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons''.
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* [[invoked]] ExecutiveMeddling: After finally playing a session of Hackmaster, she decided lots of changes needed to be made, which basically ruined the game. Based on the protests, the game has some superficial resemblance to the initial release of fourth edition ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons''.
''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons''. WordOfGod has said it wasn't a conscious decision but not a wrong take either.
* TyrantTakesTheHelm: How the Hard 8 staff view her despite how badly Gary mismanaged the company. They are proven right since her products are terrible.
* TyrantTakesTheHelm: How the Hard 8 staff view her despite how badly Gary mismanaged the company. They are proven right since her products are terrible.
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* AbusiveParents: Sheila comes to believe Papa Herzog is this after actually meeting him and seeing how he verbally abused Bob.
* AbusiveParents: Sheila comes to believe Papa Herzog is this after actually meeting him and seeing how he verbally abused Bob.
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The eponymous gaming group. The Knights were first formed when the players were still young, and the charter has a long storied history. The original {{Gamemaster}} was Brian who at one point was running sessions for different sub-chapters of the group every night of the week (typically the same adventure but tweaked for each different group) until Brian suffered a nervous breakdown and handed the game over to Weird Pete. Eventually, Pete left and B.A. took over and after a couple of subsequent player rotations, the group ended up where it is today. The first comic strips are set shortly after Dave joins the group and Johnny Kizinski quits - so the first strips depict B.A., Bob, Dave and Brian. Sara joined up shortly afterward, giving the group the line-up which it has had through most of the comic's history.
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The eponymous gaming group. The Knights were first formed when the players were still young, and the charter has a long storied history. The original {{Gamemaster}} was Brian who at one point was running sessions for different sub-chapters of the group every night of the week (typically the same adventure but tweaked for each different group) until Brian suffered a nervous breakdown and handed the game over to Weird Pete.
Eventually, Pete left and B.A. took over and after a couple of subsequent player rotations, the group ended up where it is today. The first comic strips are set shortly after Dave joins the group and Johnny Kizinski quits - so the first strips depict B.A., Bob, Dave and Brian. Sara joined up shortly afterward, giving the group the line-up which it has had through most of the comic's history.
Eventually, Pete left and B.A. took over and after a couple of subsequent player rotations, the group ended up where it is today. The first comic strips are set shortly after Dave joins the group and Johnny Kizinski quits - so the first strips depict B.A., Bob, Dave and Brian. Sara joined up shortly afterward, giving the group the line-up which it has had through most of the comic's history.
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* AxCrazy: Their characters tend to be this due to their hair trigger tempers and pursuit of exp as well as loot.
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* ChronicBackstabbingDisorder: The Knights are each other's own worst enemies with Bob and Brian the worst of it. Ironically, Sarah does quite a bit of siding with [=NPCs=] over her own team as well.
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* HeroWithBadPublicity: The in-universe Untouchable Trio + One is almost universally reviled in BA's games because of their actions.
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* MoralMyopia: The Knights believe their characters are great heroes but they're usually up to no good, general lawlessness, and indiscriminate murder.
* ProperlyParanoid: The Knights believe every [=NPC=] and plot hook by BA is an attempt to screw them. The irony is they're not often wrong but because he's so sick of them acting this way.
* OnlySaneMan: BA Felton and Sarah are usually treated as this but both have their own quirks.
* ProperlyParanoid: The Knights believe every [=NPC=] and plot hook by BA is an attempt to screw them. The irony is they're not often wrong but because he's so sick of them acting this way.
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The current Gamemaster and host. B.A. is a timid individual who still lives with his mother and works as an assistant manager at a local Pizza chain. Nearly all his spare time is spent crafting the "perfect" adventure, which proves an act in futility early in the series run but got better when he grew a backbone and adapted to the habits of his players. While readers are quick to pick up on the players' tendency to derail the game with HackAndSlash, they're slow to notice that B.A. often encourages it. In his campaign, sometimes the old man begging for coins really is a 10th level monk able to summon an army of beggars. His most notorious [=NPCs=] are Red Gurdy Pickens, a rough and tumble antagonist who just won't die and whom B.A. likes to pull out on occasion to rattle the Knights, and Jonid Coincrawler, a trickster gnome with a track record of bilking the Knights out of their loot.
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The current Gamemaster and host. B.A. is a timid individual who still lives with his mother and works as an assistant manager at a local Pizza chain. Nearly all his spare time is spent crafting the "perfect" adventure, which proves an act in futility early in the series run but got better when he grew a backbone and adapted to the habits of his players. While readers are quick to pick up on the players' tendency to derail the game with HackAndSlash, they're slow to notice that B.A. often encourages it. In his campaign, sometimes the old man begging for coins really is a 10th level monk able to summon an army of beggars.
His most notorious [=NPCs=] are Red Gurdy Pickens, a rough and tumble antagonist who just won't die and whom B.A. likes to pull out on occasion to rattle the Knights, and Jonid Coincrawler, a trickster gnome with a track record of bilking the Knights out of theirloot.
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Described in his character bios as the first "dues paying" member of the Knights, Bob is a hardcore dedicated hack and slash gamer known for his quick temper and relentless dedication to the game (and considering that gaming is already SeriousBusiness in Muncie, that's saying something). While his in game CatchPhrase is "I waste 'em with my crossbow," his out-of-game motto is "the game must go on." Throughout the series, Bob has told every lie, shirked every responsibility and pulled every trick he can think of to escape any responsibilities and/or entanglements keeping him away from the game table. This has estranged him more than once from his father and cost him a respectable job as a claims adjuster. He currently works at Weird Pete's game shop, where he gets paid strictly in game product, which he barters with for some basic necessities (read: more game product), but it's his girlfriend Sheila Horowitz who holds down an actual paying job and pays their bills. He tends to prefer playing dwarven thieves wielding crossbows, his best-known being a family line all named Knuckles.
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Described in his character bios as the first "dues paying" member of the Knights, Bob is a hardcore dedicated hack and slash gamer known for his quick temper and relentless dedication to the game (and considering that gaming is already SeriousBusiness in Muncie, that's saying something). While his in game CatchPhrase is "I waste 'em with my crossbow," his out-of-game motto is "the game must go on." Throughout the series, Bob has told every lie, shirked every responsibility and pulled every trick he can think of to escape any responsibilities and/or entanglements keeping him away from the game table.
This has estranged him more than once from his father and cost him a respectable job as a claims adjuster. He currently works at Weird Pete's game shop, where he gets paid strictly in game product, which he barters with for some basic necessities (read: more game product), but it's his girlfriend Sheila Horowitz who holds down an actual paying job and pays their bills. He tends to prefer playing dwarven thieves wielding crossbows, his best-known being a family line all named Knuckles.
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Former Gamemaster turned player, Brian is a painfully shy recluse away from the gaming table. He lives partly on an inheritance from his uncle and his dead parents' life insurance policy and partly on revenues from miniatures painting, PC repairs, eBay trading, and extreme frugality. At the table, he's a savant. He has near perfect memory of all rules and revisions to the game, and is a master of advanced gaming tactics. Brian is able to pull off brilliant maneuvers at the game table and is the single most likely player to turn B.A.'s adventures to his personal advantage (though the other Knights have gotten wise to it). Brian has shown signs at different times of being slightly unhinged, from having an imaginary girlfriend to doing his adventure prep with dolls. He usually plays Dwarven wizards from the Lotus clan, the most well known being nicknamed "Teflon Billy."
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Former Gamemaster turned player, Brian is a painfully shy recluse away from the gaming table. He lives partly on an inheritance from his uncle and his dead parents' life insurance policy and partly on revenues from miniatures painting, PC repairs, eBay trading, and extreme frugality. At the table, he's a savant. He has near perfect memory of all rules and revisions to the game, and is a master of advanced gaming tactics.
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