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* ArcherArchetype: [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]]. Once he [[spoiler:arrives on the Train]], he's first given the choice of choosing a class, archer among them. He decides ''not'' to pick it, citing a NoodleIncident that made him wary of using a bow and arrow again.

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** He has a problem with ''over''explaining things. If he didn't stumble upon how Chloe wasn't going to softball camp ''now'' or didn't dig himself too deep over not getting his daughter therapy, he wouldn't have gotten himself into as much trouble as he did.



* FollowInMyFootsteps: He was hoping that Chloe would eventually follow in his footsteps and become Vermillion City's Pokemon Professor, with him seeing Chloe's fight against Gengar being the first step to do so. Unfortunately, Chloe was nowhere ''near'' as interested in the position, and it was a reminder of everything her classmates ''force'' her into, but she never even vocalized these thoughts before the Train, meaning that by the time the professor realizes this she's already trainbound. Not to mention that he didn't even ''try'' to get Chloe interested in the first place, assuming that it'll just "click" for her if he left her alone.

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* FollowInMyFootsteps: He was hoping that Chloe would eventually follow in his footsteps and become Vermillion City's Pokemon Professor, with him seeing Chloe's fight against Gengar being the first step to do so. Unfortunately, Chloe was nowhere ''near'' as interested in the position, and it was a reminder of everything her classmates ''force'' her into, but she never even vocalized these thoughts before the Train, meaning that by the time the professor realizes this she's already trainbound. Not to mention that he didn't even ''try'' to get Chloe interested in the first place, assuming that it'll just "click" for her if he left her alone.



* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: He gets it hard by this after Gloria's horribly blunt one-sided analogy of "Chloe is essentially an abuse victim because everywhere she goes, not a single adult figure cares about her or the promises they make that things will get better and she'd rather ''die'' than deal with any of this Tauros-shit any longer" because he honestly ''did'' try to do better and is reminded of his mistakes over and over again without break. He gets another one when he learns ''why'' Chloe wanted that softball camp so badly.

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* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: He gets it hard by this after Gloria's horribly blunt one-sided analogy of "Chloe Chloe is essentially an abuse victim because everywhere she goes, not a single adult figure cares about her or the promises they make that things will get better and she'd rather ''die'' than deal with any of this Tauros-shit any longer" victim" because he honestly ''did'' try to do better and is reminded of his mistakes over and over again without break. He gets another one when he learns ''why'' Chloe wanted that softball camp so badly.



* TherapyIsForTheWeak: [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]]. He eventually reveals that he didn't give Chloe proper therapy for her problems at school (or as Lexi states "Therapy is ''not'' in the professor's dictionary"). Not because he thought therapy was beneath him, but because the ''last'' time he tried to get counseling, he was scammed out of his money, and he simply couldn't take the risk of the same happening to his daughter. Not that it helps everyone else, as it seems like the Professor ''intentionally'' let Chloe wallow in her misery and makes him look very hypocritical in that he's incapable of giving the help she needs.

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* TherapyIsForTheWeak: [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]]. He eventually reveals that he didn't give Chloe proper therapy for her problems at school (or as Lexi states "Therapy is ''not'' in the professor's dictionary"). Not school; not because he thought therapy was beneath him, but because the ''last'' time he tried to get counseling, he was scammed out of his money, and he simply couldn't take the risk of the same happening to his daughter. Not that it helps everyone else, as it seems like the Professor ''intentionally'' let Chloe wallow in her misery and makes him look very hypocritical in that he's incapable of giving the help she needs.daughter.



* WellIntentionedExtremist: His idea to keep Chloe at his institute after school was a legitimate, if misguided, attempt at helping Chloe get away from her bullies, which is more than can be said about ''every other adult in her life''.

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* WellIntentionedExtremist: His idea to keep Chloe at his institute after school was a legitimate, if misguided, attempt at helping Chloe her get away from her bullies, which is more than can be said about ''every other adult in her life''.
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* UnluckyEverydude: The professor is just a normal man in a world populated by the creatures known as Pokémon. As the story goes on, every last shade of bad luck befalls this man, to the point his life gets so irrepairably broken he sees [[Spoiler:willingly entering the Train, with the potential for death that entails]], as a better idea than staying in Vermillion City any longer.

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* UnluckyEverydude: The professor is just a normal man in a world populated by the creatures known as Pokémon. As the story goes on, every last shade of bad luck befalls this man, to the point his life gets so irrepairably broken he sees [[Spoiler:willingly [[spoiler:willingly entering the Train, with the potential for death that entails]], as a better idea than staying in Vermillion City any longer.

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** A Professor is usually the first person an up and coming Trainer will interact with in order to get a Pokémon in the games and anime. But to Class 5-E, they don't ''care'' about his work or his family; they just want a Pokémon from him and see him as a meals ticket to their dreams. Sara uses the fact that he's the father of Chloe Cerise as justification as to why they should bully her to death; because ''she'' can get them access to Pokémon much easier than they ever would.

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** A Professor is usually the first person an up and coming Trainer will interact with in order to get a Pokémon in the games and anime. But to Class 5-E, they don't ''care'' about his work or his family; they just want a Pokémon from him and see him as a meals meal ticket to their dreams. Sara uses the fact that he's the father of Chloe Cerise as justification as to why they should bully her to death; because ''she'' can get them access to Pokémon much easier than they ever would.



** He had no idea that his own son was ''afraid'' of speaking up, having been taught that standing up for Chloe is the equivalent of being slapped across the face.

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** He had no idea that his own son was ''afraid'' of speaking up, having been taught that standing up for Chloe is the equivalent of being slapped across the face.face and his father would hurt him for trying to protect someone as weird as his sister.



* DumbassHasAPoint: While him allegedly refusing to give Chloe therapy was undoubtedly a dumb move, Chloe's behavior through Act 1 and 2 show a good reason why he did this: even before her Train-supported power trip, Chloe stubbornly believed herself to be a victim of her father's neglect and wanted nothing to do with him, alongside having a general trouble telling what other people felt, and generally [[SelfServingMemory recontextualizing things]] to make them seem worse than they actually were. And while one could point to [[spoiler:Tres]] as a counterargument to show he should've done it, the only reason ''that'' therapy worked was because [[HumblePie Chloe had been so thoroughly humbled by that point]] that she didn't resort to either deflecting blame, placing layers upon layers of defensive mechanisms, or any of the other habits she showed through the acts. Trying to put her through therapy back when she was in her wrathful self would've, at best, [[AesopAmnesia failed to get the lesson through]], or at worst, give Chloe ''another'' situation to unconsciously twist into a negative to further send her spiraling down.

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* DumbassHasAPoint: While him allegedly refusing to give Chloe therapy was undoubtedly a ''really'' dumb move, Chloe's behavior through Act 1 and 2 show a good reason why he did this: even before her Train-supported power trip, Chloe stubbornly believed herself to be a victim of her father's neglect and wanted nothing to do with him, alongside having a general trouble telling what other people felt, and generally [[SelfServingMemory recontextualizing things]] to make them seem worse than they actually were. And while one could point to [[spoiler:Tres]] as a counterargument to show he should've done it, the only reason ''that'' therapy worked was because [[HumblePie Chloe had been so thoroughly humbled by that point]] that she didn't resort to either deflecting blame, placing layers upon layers of defensive mechanisms, or any of the other habits she showed through the acts. Trying to put her through therapy back when she was in her wrathful self would've, at best, [[AesopAmnesia failed to get the lesson through]], or at worst, give Chloe ''another'' situation to unconsciously twist into a negative to further send her spiraling down.



* {{Expy}}: Just like his daughter is based off of [[WesternAnimation/{{Wolfwalkers}} Robin Goodfellowe]], the professor is based off of Robin's father, Bill. Both are concerned fathers who want to keep their rather free-spirited daughters who wear braids safe out of concern for their safety, only to learn that they're really caging their daughters (Bill didn't want his daughter caged while the Professor was willing to give his daughter freedom if she wanted). Whereas Bill is trying to prevent Robin from following in his foosteps of being a hunter, Cerise went under the suspicion that Chloe was going to be a professor like him.
* FailedASpotCheck: In hindsight, leaving Chloe in the Institute by her lonesome meant he was missing out on hints that Chloe was depressed and needed someone to talk to. He also wasn't aware that Chloe was about to explode when he gives his ill-timed "Remember you're not supposed to tackle a Ghost".

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* {{Expy}}: Just like his daughter is based off of [[WesternAnimation/{{Wolfwalkers}} Robin Goodfellowe]], the professor is based off of Robin's father, Bill. Both are concerned fathers who want to keep their rather free-spirited daughters who wear braids safe out of concern for their safety, only to learn that they're really caging their daughters (Bill didn't want his daughter caged by society's pressures while the Professor was willing to give his daughter freedom if she wanted). Whereas Bill is trying to prevent Robin from following in his foosteps of being a hunter, Cerise went under the suspicion that Chloe was going to be a professor professor/Pokemon fanatic like him.
* FailedASpotCheck: In hindsight, leaving Chloe in the Institute by her lonesome meant he was missing out on ''many'' hints that Chloe was depressed and needed someone to talk to.to, or give her some creative outlet to vent out her stress. He also wasn't aware that Chloe was about to explode when he gives his ill-timed "Remember you're not supposed to tackle a Ghost".



* FauxHorrific: Him keeping Chloe in the Institute after school is extreme, but the narrative and characters tend to paint it as the professor deliberately keeping Chloe "caged" like a bird and being an absolute proof that he ultimately didn't care about her.

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* FauxHorrific: Him keeping Chloe in the Institute after school is ''is'' extreme, but the narrative and characters tend to paint it as the professor deliberately keeping Chloe "caged" like a bird and being an absolute proof that he ultimately didn't care about her.



* FollowInMyFootsteps: He was hoping that Chloe would eventually follow in his footsteps and become Vermillion City's Pokemon Professor, with him seeing Chloe's fight against Gengar being the first step to do so. Unfortunately, Chloe was nowhere ''near'' as interested in the position, and it was a reminder of everything her classmates ''force'' her into, but she never even vocalized these thoughts before the Train, meaning that by the time the professor realizes this she's already trainbound. Not to mention that he didn't even ''try'' to get Chloe interested in the first place, assuming that it'll just "click" for her.

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* FollowInMyFootsteps: He was hoping that Chloe would eventually follow in his footsteps and become Vermillion City's Pokemon Professor, with him seeing Chloe's fight against Gengar being the first step to do so. Unfortunately, Chloe was nowhere ''near'' as interested in the position, and it was a reminder of everything her classmates ''force'' her into, but she never even vocalized these thoughts before the Train, meaning that by the time the professor realizes this she's already trainbound. Not to mention that he didn't even ''try'' to get Chloe interested in the first place, assuming that it'll just "click" for her.her if he left her alone.



** One of the dominoes that led to Chloe snapping on the night things went to Hell is when he saw Goh's video of her defeat to Ash and he told her "Remember that you don't use Tackle on a Ghost". Nice advice and all, except 1) he ''never'' told her anything like this prior and 2) it's just exapserating her fears that the bullies in her class will mock her for being so ''stupid'' of a Professor's daughter to not know something so simple. This gets even worse when the readers learn ''why'' he said this as it is in the Harvest Moon Car -- he just wanted to remind Chloe of a time that Yamper tried tackling a Ghost and it failed.

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** One of the dominoes that led to Chloe snapping on the night things went to Hell is when he saw Goh's video of her defeat to Ash and he told her "Remember that you don't use Tackle on a Ghost". Nice advice and all, except 1) he ''never'' told her anything like this prior and 2) it's just exapserating exasperating her fears that the bullies in her class will mock her for being so ''stupid'' of a Professor's daughter to not know something so simple. This gets even worse when the readers learn ''why'' he said this as it is in the Harvest Moon Car -- he just wanted to remind Chloe of a time that Yamper tried tackling a Ghost and it failed.



** He refused to give his daughter therapy when she needs it, and ultimately [[spoiler:it's ''he'' who needs it more than her once he gets on the Train.]] And in more irony, Chloe only starts getting the drive to move forward with her life ''after meeting with an actual therapist''.

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** He refused to give his daughter therapy when she needs it, and ultimately [[spoiler:it's ''he'' who needs it more than her once he gets on the Train.]] And in more irony, Chloe only starts getting the drive to move forward with her life ''after meeting with an actual therapist''.therapist on the Train''.



* MealTicket: A kid-friendly version of this PlayedForDrama; a Professor knows ''so much'' about Pokémon and they're the ones that give out a Starter mon to an upcoming Trainer. Class 5-E ''want'' to become Trainers and he just so happens to have a daughter who they share a class with...and thus they proceed to bully and ruin her life so she can automatically gift them Pokémon in order to make it all ''stop''.

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* MealTicket: A kid-friendly version of this PlayedForDrama; a Professor knows ''so much'' about Pokémon and they're the ones that give out a Starter mon to an upcoming Trainer. Class 5-E ''want'' to become Trainers and he just so happens to have a daughter who they share a class with...and thus they proceed to bully and ruin her life so she can automatically gift them Pokémon in order to make it all ''stop''.''stop'' instead of doing the smart thing and just ''go to his Institute themselves''.



** After Gloria hits her HeroicBSOD and is needed to stop Augustine from ''killing One-One'', he decides that, given how Gloria was seeking therapy for her problems and she called him out for not helping Chloe when she needed it, that ''now's'' a good time to mention that he had withheld therapy for Chloe. This does '''not'' help him in the slightest as everyone arounds him sees him as truly neglectful. Chloe is shocked to learn that her dad knew she had problems but kept her caged, Renji was TheScapegoat (as Renji had an inkling of what was going on with Chloe but clammed up) and Goh realizes that he ''has'' been getting so many privileges while his friend wasted away. Were it not for Gloria telling everyone to shut up, things would've gone down the toilet ''very'' quickly.

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** After Gloria hits her HeroicBSOD and is needed to stop Augustine from ''killing One-One'', he decides that, given how Gloria was seeking therapy for her problems and she called him out for not helping Chloe when she needed it, that ''now's'' a good time to mention that he had withheld therapy for Chloe. This does '''not'' help him in the slightest as everyone arounds around him sees him as truly neglectful. Chloe is shocked to learn that her dad knew ''knew'' she had problems but kept her caged, caged in the Institute regardless, Renji was TheScapegoat (as Renji had an inkling of what was going on with Chloe but clammed up) and Goh realizes that he ''has'' been getting so many privileges while his friend wasted away. Were it not for Gloria telling everyone to shut up, things would've gone down the toilet ''very'' quickly.



* NonActionGuy: According to Dr. Yung, Cerise sucked at battling. Then again, Yung probably was saying this to break Chloe, and as a professor, his main job is to ''research'', not to fight.

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* NonActionGuy: According to Dr. Yung, Cerise sucked at battling. Then again, Yung probably was saying this to break Chloe, and as a professor, his main job is to ''research'', not to fight. [[spoiler:His stint in the Infinity Train in Act 2 hints that he'll shed this trope.]]



* NoRespectGuy: He's the only one in the Cerise Institute who actually did anything substantial to help Chloe (Chryssa procrastinated, Renji got cold feet, Ash ''did'' ask her to join him and Goh on expeditions but wasn't able to connect with her and Goh can be so wrapped up in himself that he barely recognizes Chloe as a friend); that something being rather extreme, granted, but it's still ''something'' compared to everyone else's ''nothing''. The professor gets no respect for this; in fact, said event tends to get brought up when it comes to ''demonizing'' him as someone who didn't care for his daughter.

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* NoRespectGuy: He's the only one in the Cerise Institute who actually did anything substantial to help Chloe (Chryssa procrastinated, Renji got cold feet, feet -- albeit the two later revealed that they wanted to approach Chloe but left her alone -- Ash ''did'' ask her to join him and Goh on expeditions but wasn't able to connect with her and Goh can be is always so wrapped up in himself that he barely ''barely'' recognizes Chloe as a friend); that something being rather extreme, granted, but it's still ''something'' compared to everyone else's ''nothing''. The professor gets no respect for this; in fact, said event tends to get brought up when it comes to ''demonizing'' him as someone who didn't care for his daughter.



* ParentsAsPeople: For all of his faults, the professor only wanted what was best for his daughter and to keep her away from harm. Unfortunately, he just couldn't wrap his head around the idea that his daughter just ''wasn't'' so enthusiastic about Pokémon like her peers, or even himself for that matter, and he never really went past the surface to see if Chloe really ''was'' okay after school, or even get her some therapy to help her come to terms with her problems. He even tells Parker that for all that he's done, he's ''not'' a monster and neither Parker nor Chloe should ever have been afraid to talk to him about their problems.



* ParentsAsPeople: For all of his faults, the professor only wanted what was best for his daughter and to keep her away from harm. Unfortunately, he just couldn't wrap his head around the idea that his daughter just ''wasn't'' so enthusiastic about Pokémon like her peers, or even himself for that matter, and he never really went past the surface to see if Chloe really ''was'' okay after school, or even get her some therapy to help her come to terms with her problems. He even tells Parker that for all that he's done, he's ''not'' a monster and neither Parker nor Chloe should ever have been afraid to talk to him about their problems.



* TherapyIsForTheWeak: [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]]. He eventually reveals that he didn't give Chloe proper therapy for her problems at school (or as Lexi states "Therapy is ''not'' in the professor's dictionary"). Not because he thought therapy was beneath him, but because the ''last'' time he tried to get counseling, he was scammed out of his money, and he simply couldn't take the risk of the same happening to his daughter. Not that it helps everyone else, as it seems like the Professor ''intentionally'' let Chloe wallow in her misery and very hypocritical in that he's incapable of giving the help she needs.

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* TherapyIsForTheWeak: [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]]. He eventually reveals that he didn't give Chloe proper therapy for her problems at school (or as Lexi states "Therapy is ''not'' in the professor's dictionary"). Not because he thought therapy was beneath him, but because the ''last'' time he tried to get counseling, he was scammed out of his money, and he simply couldn't take the risk of the same happening to his daughter. Not that it helps everyone else, as it seems like the Professor ''intentionally'' let Chloe wallow in her misery and makes him look very hypocritical in that he's incapable of giving the help she needs.
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* AdaptationalIntelligence: "Firefly Funhouse Car" reveals that Cerise was aware that something was bugging Chloe and that Ash and Goh's attempts of "Join us on a Pokemon expedition" weren't helping him get to the bottom of it.

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* AdaptationExpansion: The anime never explains why Chloe isn't an assistant to her father (despite promo material saying that and she wouldn't be his research fellow ''until the very end of the series itself''). Cerise said that if he did give her a research fellow role, it'd be seen as nepotism.

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The anime never explains why Chloe isn't an assistant to her father (despite promo material saying that and she wouldn't be his research fellow ''until the very end of the series itself''). Cerise said that if he did give her a research fellow role, it'd be seen as nepotism.nepotism.
** "Firefly Funhouse Car" has a flashback where he actually shows concern that ''something'' is deeply upsetting his daughter and he asked Ash and Goh to try to find a way to open up that didn't involve their usual "Join us on a Pokemon expedition".
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->'''Appears in:''' Seeker of Crocus (Debut) | The Firefly Funhouse Car (Flashback)
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* AdapatationExpansion: The anime never explains why Chloe isn't an assistant to her father (despite promo material saying that and she wouldn't be his research fellow ''until the very end of the series itself''). Cerise said that if he did give her a research fellow role, it'd be seen as nepotism.

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* AdapatationExpansion: AdaptationExpansion: The anime never explains why Chloe isn't an assistant to her father (despite promo material saying that and she wouldn't be his research fellow ''until the very end of the series itself''). Cerise said that if he did give her a research fellow role, it'd be seen as nepotism.
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* AdapatationalExpansion: The anime never explains why Chloe isn't an assistant to her father (despite promo material saying that). Cerise said that if he did give her a research fellow role, it'd be seen as nepotism.

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* AdapatationalExpansion: AdapatationExpansion: The anime never explains why Chloe isn't an assistant to her father (despite promo material saying that).that and she wouldn't be his research fellow ''until the very end of the series itself''). Cerise said that if he did give her a research fellow role, it'd be seen as nepotism.
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* DecompositeCharacter: Augustine and Amelia have the protectiveness of Douglas Cartland to Chloe's Heather Mason, but he has the estranged relationship Douglas had to his dead son, reflecting how the communication problems and Cerise's attention to his work caused his and Chloe's relationship to fall apart.
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