Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 12,13 (click to see context) from:
* NoFullNameGiven: We never know his first name.
** In the original book series his full name is Lo Straniero. It is unclear if the movie version has the same name.
** In the original book series his full name is Lo Straniero. It is unclear if the movie version has the same name.
to:
* NoFullNameGiven: We never know his first name. \n** In the original book series his full name is Lo Straniero. It is unclear if the movie version has the same name.
Deleted line(s) 39 (click to see context) :
Changed line(s) 92 (click to see context) from:
* HotBlooded: Usually loud, very passionate, very violent-tempered.
to:
* HotBlooded: Usually He's usually loud, very passionate, and very violent-tempered.
Changed line(s) 94,95 (click to see context) from:
* WrongGenreSavvy: Thinks he's in a HeroicBloodshed piece. Small wonder he doesn't stick around long... [[spoiler:Thanks, Sofia.]]
[[/folder]]
[[/folder]]
to:
* WrongGenreSavvy: Thinks He thinks that he's in a HeroicBloodshed piece. Small wonder he doesn't stick around long... [[spoiler:Thanks, [[spoiler:thanks, Sofia.]]
[[/folder]][[/folder]]
----
----
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* AgentPeacock: In an otherwise fairly grounded film with typical Scorsese-style gangsters, Ice Pick Joe stands out, dressing and behaving like a Dick Tracy villain that hatched from a disco ball.
Added DiffLines:
* TrademarkFavoriteFood: Frequently seen snacking out of a jar of olives with a cocktail fork.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
** In the original book series his full name is Lo Straniero. It is unclear if the movie version has the same name.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Deleted line(s) 42 (click to see context) :
->'''Played by:''' Creator/SophiaLoren
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 33 (click to see context) from:
* BadBoss: At first seems like AFatherToHisMen, but this facade fades after [[spoiler: the death of Mario. Like many points in the movie, it is ambiguous as to whether it truly was a facade, or if Mario's death pushed him over the deep end and resulted in a degradation of his sanity.]]
to:
* BadBoss: At first seems like AFatherToHisMen, but this facade fades after [[spoiler: the death of Mario. Like many points in the movie, it is ambiguous as to whether it truly was a facade, façade, or if Mario's death pushed him over the deep end and resulted in a degradation of his sanity.]]
Added DiffLines:
* HiddenDepths: He really did value Herb as his closest friend, and, when the latter returns to Naples and, instead of welcoming Andrey as an old acquaintance, proceeds to tear into him over his failures in life, the look of betrayal and pain on Andrey's face is ''visceral.'' When Andrey retorts to Herb with a breaking speech of his own, it's clear that the hardened mobster is on the verge of ''tears.''
Added DiffLines:
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 10 (click to see context) from:
* FaceDeathWithDignity: [[spoiler:When his time comes, he accepts it with grace and seems almost glad.]]
to:
* FaceDeathWithDignity: [[spoiler:When his time comes, [[spoiler:After Andrey fatally stabs him, he accepts it his death with grace and seems almost glad.glad, using his last breath to give Andrey a forgiving smile and [[OneLastSmoke one last pull]] from his cigarette.]]
Added DiffLines:
* OneLastSmoke: [[spoiler:Downplayed in that he didn't ''realize'' it would be his last cigarette, but after Andrey fatally stabs him, he uses his final breath to take a pull from the cig he'd managed to light.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* HiddenDepths: He has an interest in the concept of alien life and realistic science fiction.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* RaceFetish: He's implied to have an oddly specific fascination with Bolivian women.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Conflicts with her death details on main page.
Deleted line(s) 22 (click to see context) :
* DiesWideOpen: [[spoiler:She dies looking into Sofia's eyes.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 66 (click to see context) from:
* WhamLine: He delivers one to the hit squad [[spoiler: hired by Katya]], going on a monologue about the cowardice of using long guns against a target before pointing out the sharpshooter they have trained on him. [[CurbStompBattle Said sharpshooter is the only one to survive the encounter]].
to:
* WhamLine: He delivers one to the hit squad [[spoiler: hired by Katya]], going on a monologue about the cowardice of using long guns against a target before pointing out the sharpshooter they have trained on him. [[CurbStompBattle Said sharpshooter is the only one to survive the encounter]].encounter with Joe]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* RunningGag: He can never seem to figure out which pocket his lighter is in when someone asks for a light.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Deleted line(s) 33 (click to see context) :
* JerkassHasAPoint: When Herb returns to Naples and [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech reads Andrey the riot act]] for how far the man had fallen since their parting, Andrey immediately fires back at Herb about how he [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere fled Naples and left Andrey holding the bag]] after their botched takeover. Sure, Andrey may have only made the situation worse with his poorly-handled damage control, but it was indeed ''Herb'' who advised Andrey to do the takeover in the first place, failed to actually ''check'' the intel he'd been given, and ultimately left Andrey out to dry when the plan went to hell. Regardless of the mistakes Andrey made during the movie, he was dealing with a bad hand from the start.
Added DiffLines:
* JerkassHasAPoint: When Herb returns to Naples and [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech reads Andrey the riot act]] for how far the man had fallen since their parting, Andrey immediately fires back at Herb about how he [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere fled Naples and left Andrey holding the bag]] after their botched takeover. Sure, Andrey may have only made the situation worse with his poorly-handled damage control, but it was indeed ''Herb'' who advised Andrey to do the takeover in the first place, failed to actually ''check'' the intel he'd been given, and ultimately left Andrey out to dry when the plan went to hell. Regardless of the mistakes Andrey made during the movie, he was dealing with a bad hand from the start.
* MurderSuicide: [[spoiler:He kills Goncharov (who was possibly on his way to kill Andrey himself) and then himself, though it is left ambiguous as to whether the act was planned, or only killed himself after killing Goncharov in self-defense.]]
* MurderSuicide: [[spoiler:He kills Goncharov (who was possibly on his way to kill Andrey himself) and then himself, though it is left ambiguous as to whether the act was planned, or only killed himself after killing Goncharov in self-defense.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 57 (click to see context) from:
* FaceDeathWithDignity: [[spoiler: He takes his eventual demise at the hands of Katya rather civilly, telling her he understands and would have done the same thing in [her] shoes, and this is despite the fact that Katya is essentially [[HeelFaceDoorSlam denying him the chance to turn his life around]].]]
to:
* FaceDeathWithDignity: [[spoiler: He takes his eventual demise at the hands of Katya rather civilly, telling her he understands and would have done the same thing in [her] her shoes, and this is despite the fact that Katya is essentially [[HeelFaceDoorSlam denying him the chance to turn his life around]].]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
* FaceDeathWithDignity: [[spoiler: He takes his eventual demise at the hands of Katya rather civilly, telling her he understands and would have done the same thing in [her] shoes, and this is despite the fact that Katya is essentially [[HeelFaceDoorSlam denying him the chance to turn his life around]].]]
Changed line(s) 60 (click to see context) from:
* KindheartedCatLover: Despite being a violent SerialKiller, he has a soft spot for cats, and has a few in his apartment. He also has a soft soft for Katya (despite how antagonistic they act to each other) [[spoiler: which ultimately leads to his death]]
to:
* KindheartedCatLover: Despite being a violent SerialKiller, he has a soft spot for cats, and has a few in his apartment. He also has a soft soft for Katya (despite how antagonistic they act to each other) [[spoiler: which ultimately leads to his death]]death.]]
Added DiffLines:
* WhamLine: He delivers one to the hit squad [[spoiler: hired by Katya]], going on a monologue about the cowardice of using long guns against a target before pointing out the sharpshooter they have trained on him. [[CurbStompBattle Said sharpshooter is the only one to survive the encounter]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 55 (click to see context) from:
* DoesntLikeGuns: Of a strange variation--he actually has nothing wrong with handguns, but he absolutely ''loathes'' long guns and rifles, to the point of accusing them of being a "coward's weapon." His reasoning for this apparently stems from a belief that pistols (and other short-range weapons) require the user to get close enough to "feel" the life they take from their target, and thus forces the shooter to personally confront their act of killing, whereas with longer range weapons, the shooter is able to distance themselves and thus casually pick off a target without thinking too much about it.
to:
* DoesntLikeGuns: Of a strange variation--he actually has nothing wrong with against handguns, but he absolutely ''loathes'' long guns and rifles, to the point of accusing them of being a "coward's weapon." His reasoning for this apparently stems from a belief that pistols (and other short-range weapons) require the user to get close enough to "feel" the life they take from their target, and thus forces the shooter to personally confront their act of killing, whereas with longer range weapons, the shooter is able to distance themselves and thus casually pick off a target without thinking too much about it.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 32 (click to see context) from:
* BadBoss: At first seems like AFatherToHisMen, but this facade fades after [[spoiler: the death of Mario]].
to:
* BadBoss: At first seems like AFatherToHisMen, but this facade fades after [[spoiler: the death of Mario]].Mario. Like many points in the movie, it is ambiguous as to whether it truly was a facade, or if Mario's death pushed him over the deep end and resulted in a degradation of his sanity.]]
* JerkassHasAPoint: When Herb returns to Naples and [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech reads Andrey the riot act]] for how far the man had fallen since their parting, Andrey immediately fires back at Herb about how he [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere fled Naples and left Andrey holding the bag]] after their botched takeover. Sure, Andrey may have only made the situation worse with his poorly-handled damage control, but it was indeed ''Herb'' who advised Andrey to do the takeover in the first place, failed to actually ''check'' the intel he'd been given, and ultimately left Andrey out to dry when the plan went to hell. Regardless of the mistakes Andrey made during the movie, he was dealing with a bad hand from the start.
* JerkassHasAPoint: When Herb returns to Naples and [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech reads Andrey the riot act]] for how far the man had fallen since their parting, Andrey immediately fires back at Herb about how he [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere fled Naples and left Andrey holding the bag]] after their botched takeover. Sure, Andrey may have only made the situation worse with his poorly-handled damage control, but it was indeed ''Herb'' who advised Andrey to do the takeover in the first place, failed to actually ''check'' the intel he'd been given, and ultimately left Andrey out to dry when the plan went to hell. Regardless of the mistakes Andrey made during the movie, he was dealing with a bad hand from the start.
Added DiffLines:
* DoesntLikeGuns: Of a strange variation--he actually has nothing wrong with handguns, but he absolutely ''loathes'' long guns and rifles, to the point of accusing them of being a "coward's weapon." His reasoning for this apparently stems from a belief that pistols (and other short-range weapons) require the user to get close enough to "feel" the life they take from their target, and thus forces the shooter to personally confront their act of killing, whereas with longer range weapons, the shooter is able to distance themselves and thus casually pick off a target without thinking too much about it.
--> '''Joe''': When you look at the man you just killed through the lenses of some...expensive, high-powered scope, is he even a man? Or just some bag of meat and blood? Will you sleep at night, unbothered by nightmares of seeing that last light drain from a man's eyes, not knowing that you just killed someone's loving brother, or father, or son? I ''know'' what I've done, who I've killed, and I feel the weight of every life I've ever taken. Can the same be said for [[WhamLine your sharpshooter on the balcony there?]]
--> '''Joe''': When you look at the man you just killed through the lenses of some...expensive, high-powered scope, is he even a man? Or just some bag of meat and blood? Will you sleep at night, unbothered by nightmares of seeing that last light drain from a man's eyes, not knowing that you just killed someone's loving brother, or father, or son? I ''know'' what I've done, who I've killed, and I feel the weight of every life I've ever taken. Can the same be said for [[WhamLine your sharpshooter on the balcony there?]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Knife Nut is defunct
Deleted line(s) 34 (click to see context) :
* KnifeNut: [[ChekhovsGun Always carries one.]] At first he claims it's just to cut cigars with... [[ImplausibleDeniability but we never see him smoking cigars.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* AmbiguouslyRelated: We're not sure exactly what Valery's relation to Katya is. We do know that she doesn't like him, but that doesn't narrow it down much.
* HotBlooded: Usually loud, very passionate, very violent-tempered.
* HuskyRusskie: Downplayed, but he's very physical and seems to have a bit of a pot belly under that coat.
* WrongGenreSavvy: Thinks he's in a HeroicBloodshed piece. Small wonder he doesn't stick around long... [[spoiler:Thanks, Sofia.]]
* HotBlooded: Usually loud, very passionate, very violent-tempered.
* HuskyRusskie: Downplayed, but he's very physical and seems to have a bit of a pot belly under that coat.
* WrongGenreSavvy: Thinks he's in a HeroicBloodshed piece. Small wonder he doesn't stick around long... [[spoiler:Thanks, Sofia.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Typo.
Changed line(s) 34 (click to see context) from:
* KnifeNut: [[ChekovsGun Always carries one.]] At first he claims it's just to cut cigars with... [[ImplausibleDeniability but we never see him smoking cigars.]]
to:
* KnifeNut: [[ChekovsGun [[ChekhovsGun Always carries one.]] At first he claims it's just to cut cigars with... [[ImplausibleDeniability but we never see him smoking cigars.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* AffablyEvil: Comes with being a friendly neighborhood mafia don.
* BadBoss: At first seems like AFatherToHisMen, but this facade fades after [[spoiler: the death of Mario]].
* TheDon: Head of his organization.
* KnifeNut: [[ChekovsGun Always carries one.]] At first he claims it's just to cut cigars with... [[ImplausibleDeniability but we never see him smoking cigars.]]
* BadBoss: At first seems like AFatherToHisMen, but this facade fades after [[spoiler: the death of Mario]].
* TheDon: Head of his organization.
* KnifeNut: [[ChekovsGun Always carries one.]] At first he claims it's just to cut cigars with... [[ImplausibleDeniability but we never see him smoking cigars.]]
Added DiffLines:
* ALighterShadeOfBlack: Sure, he'll ruin your life, leave you penniless, and have your car repossessed if you have a bad run of luck at the tables, but he hates the idea of actually killing anyone.
* DoesNotLikeSpam: Mario doesn't care for traditional Italian food much - especially pasta.
* TheEeyore: A very, very sad man. Small wonder he rarely shows his face at the establishments he runs.
* TheGambler: Subverted. Mario runs a sizable high-stakes underground gambling operation, but he doesn't gamble himself, and comes across as very cautious.
* UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom: His attempts to [[spoiler: break free of Andrey's control result in his death. And his death results in the threads of Andrey's empire slowly coming unraveled once he's discovered to be missing...]]
* DoesNotLikeSpam: Mario doesn't care for traditional Italian food much - especially pasta.
* TheEeyore: A very, very sad man. Small wonder he rarely shows his face at the establishments he runs.
* TheGambler: Subverted. Mario runs a sizable high-stakes underground gambling operation, but he doesn't gamble himself, and comes across as very cautious.
* UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom: His attempts to [[spoiler: break free of Andrey's control result in his death. And his death results in the threads of Andrey's empire slowly coming unraveled once he's discovered to be missing...]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 38 (click to see context) from:
* HeroOfAnotherStory: Because Katya is a criminal FemmeFatale that leads Sofia deeper into the criminal underworld, Sofia closely mirrors protagonists such as Walter Neff in Double Indemnity, Johnny Farell in Gilda (1944), and Sam Spade in The Maltese Falcon. Her side of the story most likely looks like a lesbian noir.
to:
* HeroOfAnotherStory: Because Katya is a criminal FemmeFatale that leads Sofia deeper into the criminal underworld, Sofia closely mirrors protagonists such as Walter Neff in Double Indemnity, ''Film/DoubleIndemnity'', Johnny Farell in Gilda (1944), ''{{Film/Gilda}}'', and Sam Spade in The Maltese Falcon.''Film/TheMalteseFalcon1941''. Her side of the story most likely looks like a lesbian noir.
