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* PetTheDog: When [=McClane=] accuses Rambo of having friends in the Taliban, Wick immediately comes to the latter's defense by pointing out that Rambo worked with Mujahideen, as the Taliban came much later, while also taking a dig at [=McClane=].[[note]]This was likely because Rambo didn't press Wick's BerserkButton in wyd rap, whereas [=McClane=] pressed it repeatedly during his.[[/note]]
-->''Those were Mujahideen. There's a difference.\\
The Taliban formed in the 90's, when you fell off with a vengeance.''
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* NoCelebritiesWereHarmed: As revealed in the Behind the Scenes video for the battle, [=EpicLloyd=]'s voice for King Kong was modelled after Music/DMX in terms of cadence.

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* NoCelebritiesWereHarmed: As revealed in the Behind the Scenes video for the battle, [=EpicLloyd=]'s voice for King Kong was modelled after Music/DMX Music/{{DMX}} in terms of cadence.
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* NoCelebritiesWereHarmed: As revealed in the Behind the Scenes video for the battle, [=EpicLloyd=]'s voice for King Kong was modelled after Music/DMX in terms of cadence.
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* ItsPersonal: Being the rare ERB where the characters have a rivalry outside of the ERB context, Godzilla in turn is the rare combatant who's downright furious at his opponent and not having any fun at all, radiating contempt throughout and outright saying "Damn, I despise you" in his final verse.
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* BigfootSasquatchAndYeti: The CGI model used for him is intended to be a sasquatch, though Lloyd does his best to mo-cap him with a PrimalStance to make him more gorilla-like.
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-> ''"I'll sacrifice you to [[Myth/NorseMythology Odin]] while drinking horns of mead!"''

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-> ''"I'll sacrifice you to [[Myth/NorseMythology Odin]] while drinking horns of mead!"''''"Leaving monks in chunks on Northumbrian lawns, cause I'm the Allfather's spawn!"''
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->''"A proficient, professional killing machine!"''

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->''"A ->''"John Wick, I'm efficient and lean! A proficient, professional killing machine!"''
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* SexyFigureGesture: He does this with his hands when boasting about his RoyalHarem.
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* WarriorPoet: He ''performs a haiku midrap'' at one point, and being Godzilla, the Warrior part's not in question!

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** His own classist views on society are ignored, dividing people into groups such as Bourgeois, Proletariat & [[https://www.britannica.com/topic/Lumpenproletariat Lumpenproletariat]] to name a few.
** ERB has him claim that he reason for taking money from others was to fund "the revolution", but in reality he was getting into legal trouble over massive unpaid debts as early as his college days, far before he took up any socialist cause, and even after he did, most of the money he received was spent on frivolous luxuries, such as a personal housemaid, fine wine, cigars, cheeses and exclusive bookclubs. And despite all his talk about "sharing is the Communist vision" [[{{Hypocrite}}he only ever took from others]], with his own mother disparagingly refering to him as "my big baby" well into [[{{Manchild}} his adult years]].
** He disparages what dictators did with his ideas and said that he only ever wanted to help people. But through out his life, he was well noted to act much like a fascist dictator himself whenever he got a position of power ''(usually as an editor or manager)'', and would gladly abuse those he didn't like and sell others out for persona gain. He also expressed an admiration for destruction and desolation early on in life through many of his poems, and even [[https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1837-pre/verse/verse4.htm openly disparaged God and sided with Satan in some of them]], with a former associate referring to Marx and his colleges as "godless self-appointed gods", and spent much of his later life been emotionally manipulative and abusive to those around him, including his own family, and basically everyone who knew him on a personal level came to [[HatedByAll thoroughly despise him]].
*** In short, for as horrible as his opponent (Henry Ford) was, Karl himself was worse, '''much worse'''.



* NeverMyFault: He insists that the disasters attributed to Communism had nothing to do with any flaws in the ideas themselves, instead blaming them on the greed of politicians. [[DownplayedTrope In a sense, this isn't an unreasonable contention]]; Marx was a devoted believer in Greek-style proletarian democracy, very far removed from the rigid authoritarians who claimed him as an inspiration. On the flip side, it can't be ignored that many of his mass-centralization policies do inherently invite corruption and abuse.

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* NeverMyFault: He insists that the disasters attributed to Communism had nothing to do with any flaws in the ideas themselves, instead blaming them on the greed of politicians. [[DownplayedTrope In a sense, this isn't an unreasonable contention]]; Marx was a devoted believer in Greek-style proletarian democracy, very far removed from the rigid authoritarians who claimed him as an inspiration. On the flip side, it can't be ignored that many of his mass-centralization policies do inherently invite corruption and abuse.



* HistoricalHeroUpgrade: Discussed and subverted; Marx notes that, after decades of being hailed as a hero of the industrial world, Ford is seeing his reputation plummeting as his personal failings and the impacts of what he's set in motion become more widely known. However this instead leads into:
** HistoricalVillainUpgrade: While his Nazi sympathies and horrible treatment of his workers is right called out, all his positive contributions to society ''(such as the two day weekend and such)'' are completely ignored. He's also blamed for things he either had no control over ''(car crashes)'' or had no idea would happen ''(climate change)'', and while his horrible treatment of his only son is brought up, the fact that [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone he later came to deeply regret]] it is ignored.
-->'''Karl Marx:''' So congrats, your legacy's in ashes!\\
Remembered as the fascist sympathizing cause of climate change and car crashes!

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* HistoricalHeroUpgrade: Discussed and subverted; Marx notes that, after decades of being hailed as a hero of the industrial world, Ford is seeing his reputation plummeting as his personal failings and the impacts of what he's set in motion become more widely known. However this instead leads into:\n** HistoricalVillainUpgrade: While his Nazi sympathies and horrible treatment of his workers is right called out, all his positive contributions to society ''(such as the two day weekend and such)'' are completely ignored. He's also blamed for things he either had no control over ''(car crashes)'' or had no idea would happen ''(climate change)'', and while his horrible treatment of his only son is brought up, the fact that [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone he later came to deeply regret]] it is ignored.\n-->'''Karl Marx:''' So congrats, your legacy's in ashes!\\\nRemembered as the fascist sympathizing cause of climate change and car crashes!

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** His own classist views on society are ignored, dividing people into groups such as Bourgeois, Proletariat & [[https://www.britannica.com/topic/Lumpenproletariat Lumpenproletariat]] to name a few.
** ERB has him claim that he reason for taking money from others was to fund "the revolution", but in reality he was getting into legal trouble over massive unpaid debts as early as his college days, far before he took up any socialist cause, and even after he did, most of the money he received was spent on frivolous luxuries, such as a personal housemaid, fine wine, cigars, cheeses and exclusive bookclubs. And despite all his talk about "sharing is the Communist vision" [[{{Hypocrite}}he only ever took from others]], with his own mother disparagingly refering to him as "my big baby" well into [[{{Manchild}} his adult years]].
** He disparages what dictators did with his ideas and said that he only ever wanted to help people. But through out his life, he was well noted to act much like a fascist dictator himself whenever he got a position of power ''(usually as an editor or manager)'', and would gladly abuse those he didn't like and sell others out for persona gain. He also expressed an admiration for destruction and desolation early on in life through many of his poems, and even [[https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1837-pre/verse/verse4.htm openly disparaged God and sided with Satan in some of them]], with a former associate referring to Marx and his colleges as "godless self-appointed gods", and spent much of his later life been emotionally manipulative and abusive to those around him, including his own family, and basically everyone who knew him on a personal level came to [[HatedByAll thoroughly despise him]].
*** In short, for as horrible as his opponent (Henry Ford) was, Karl himself was worse, '''much worse'''.



* NeverMyFault: He insists that the disasters attributed to Communism had nothing to do with any flaws in the ideas themselves, instead blaming them on the greed of politicians. [[DownplayedTrope In a sense, this isn't an unreasonable contention]]; Marx was a devoted believer in Greek-style proletarian democracy, very far removed from the rigid authoritarians who claimed him as an inspiration.

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* NeverMyFault: He insists that the disasters attributed to Communism had nothing to do with any flaws in the ideas themselves, instead blaming them on the greed of politicians. [[DownplayedTrope In a sense, this isn't an unreasonable contention]]; Marx was a devoted believer in Greek-style proletarian democracy, very far removed from the rigid authoritarians who claimed him as an inspiration. On the flip side, it can't be ignored that many of his mass-centralization policies do inherently invite corruption and abuse.

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* HistoricalHeroUpgrade: Discussed and subverted; Marx notes that, after decades of being hailed as a hero of the industrial world, Ford is seeing his reputation plummeting as his personal failings and the impacts of what he's set in motion become more widely known.

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* HistoricalHeroUpgrade: Discussed and subverted; Marx notes that, after decades of being hailed as a hero of the industrial world, Ford is seeing his reputation plummeting as his personal failings and the impacts of what he's set in motion become more widely known. However this instead leads into:
** HistoricalVillainUpgrade: While his Nazi sympathies and horrible treatment of his workers is right called out, all his positive contributions to society ''(such as the two day weekend and such)'' are completely ignored. He's also blamed for things he either had no control over ''(car crashes)'' or had no idea would happen ''(climate change)'', and while his horrible treatment of his only son is brought up, the fact that [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone he later came to deeply regret]] it is ignored.
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* AdaptationalVillainy: While Godzilla was a villain in his original film, later appearances tend to make him a more neutral figure and he has defended the world against more evil and destructive monsters on many occasions. In this rap battle, he is fully in CardCarryingVillain mode, boasting about the destruction left in his wake and mocking Kong for his relationship with humans. Of course, even at his most heroic, [[DestructiveSavior he is a guardian of Earth, not humanity specifically]].

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* AdaptationalVillainy: While Godzilla was a villain in his original film, later appearances tend to make him a more neutral figure and he has defended the world against more evil and destructive monsters on many occasions.occasions, even in the first film, he was a TragicVillain and a victim of circumstance out for vengeance. In this rap battle, he is fully in CardCarryingVillain mode, boasting about the destruction left in his wake and mocking Kong for his relationship with humans. Of course, even at his most heroic, [[DestructiveSavior he is a guardian of Earth, not humanity specifically]].



* CardCarryingVillain: He boasts about being a menace, rapping about crushing girls underfoot and eating up Tokyo.

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* CardCarryingVillain: In contrast to his original counterparts, who are ''at worst'' vengeful {{Tragic Villain}}s. He boasts about being a menace, rapping about crushing girls underfoot and eating up Tokyo.
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* TomHanksSyndrome: [[invoked]] Godzilla suggests that the casting of Creator/JackBlack in ''Film/KingKong2005'' made Kong a joke.
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* NiceJobBreakingItHero: Ford calls him out on the inspiration his writing gave to totalitarian dictators.
-->'''Ford''': You scream, "Unite the workers! Free the class slaves!\\
Ditch your chains, trade 'em in for mass graves!"\\
Mao and Stalin, wow, appalling mounds of body bags\\
When a world leader likes you, that's a red flag!


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* EvenEvilHasStandards: Downplayed. He claims to be appalled by the atrocities committed in the name of Communism, but Marx is quick to point out the hypocrisy of this given his collaboration with the Nazis.
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* ComicallySmallBribe: [[ZigZaggingTrope Zig-Zagged.]] While offering $5 to Marx to go away may seem like not much for a modern viewer, in Ford's time that much money had buying power closer to about $90, meaning he was offering Marx a pretty healthy salary to fuck off. However, to a man as absurdly wealthy as Ford, that much money was chump change, bringing it right back around.
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* EvilSoundsDeep: NicePeter gives him a deep modulated voice, and boasts about how his voice "cuts deep like he's rubbing on a double bass."

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* EvilSoundsDeep: NicePeter Nice Peter gives him a deep modulated voice, and boasts about how his voice "cuts deep like he's rubbing on a double bass."

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* EvilSoundsDeep: NicePeter gives him a deep modulated voice, and boasts about how his voice "cuts deep like he's rubbing on a double bass."





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\n* ToiletHumor: He lets out a fart at the beginning of his second verse as he's dissing Godzilla.
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* AdaptationalVillainy: While Godzilla was a villain in his original film, later appearances tend to make him a more neutral figure and he has defended the world against more evil and destructive monsters on many occasions. In this rap battle, he is fully in CardCarryingVillain mode, boasting about the destruction left in his wake and mocking Kong for his relationship with humans. Of course, even at his most heroic, [[DestructiveSavior he is a guardian of Earth, not humanity specifically]].
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* AlwaysSomeoneBetter: Suggested to be on both ends of this trope in comparison to other sea monsters. He boasts that Film/TheBeastFromTwentyThousandFathoms wouldn't be able to fathom his power, while Kong tells him that he wouldn't measure up to [[Myth/NauticalFolklore the Kraken]].

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* AlwaysSomeoneBetter: Suggested to be on both ends of this trope in comparison to other sea monsters. He boasts that Film/TheBeastFromTwentyThousandFathoms wouldn't be able to fathom his power, while Kong tells him that he wouldn't measure up to that, as sea monsters go, he'd be no match for [[Myth/NauticalFolklore the Kraken]].
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* TooBleakStoppedCaring: In-universe, McClane thinks his series is too dark to be entertaining.
-->'''McClane''': Lighten up, Wick, with your brooding saga

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* TooBleakStoppedCaring: In-universe, McClane [=McClane=] thinks his series is too dark to be entertaining.
-->'''McClane''': -->'''[=McClane=]''': Lighten up, Wick, with your brooding sagasaga\\
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How about a little HakunaMatata, Baba Yaga?

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How about a little HakunaMatata, hakuna matata, Baba Yaga?

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* TooBleakStoppedCaring: In-universe, McClane thinks his series is too dark to be entertaining.
-->'''McClane''': Lighten up, Wick, with your brooding saga
How about a little HakunaMatata, Baba Yaga?
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* BestKnownForTheFanservice: In-universe. Indy makes frequent jokes about she's better known for being MsFanservice than for her actual games.

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* BestKnownForTheFanservice: In-universe. Indy makes frequent jokes about she's better known for being MsFanservice than for her actual games. [[InsultBackfire Lara doesn't dispute it.]]
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* BrooklynRage: He identifies with New York as opposed to Godzilla's Tokyo, and warns Godzilla not to cross into his turf (while referencing a [[https://youtu.be/2-oCNXMsMvg?si=g1baEqaNu7ZIPaef famous meme video]]).

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* BrooklynRage: He identifies with New York as opposed to Godzilla's Tokyo, and warns Godzilla not to cross into his turf (while referencing a [[https://youtu.be/2-oCNXMsMvg?si=g1baEqaNu7ZIPaef famous meme video]]).video]], and also FlippingTheBird).

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