History Characters / DragonAgeIIHawkeEstate

15th Oct '17 2:50:46 PM LadyNorbert
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* SurvivorGuilt: If Carver dies, she'll outright tell Bethany that she wishes she'd died with him.

to:

* SurvivorGuilt: If Carver dies, she'll outright tell Bethany that she wishes she'd she (Leandra) had died with him.him. If it's Bethany who dies, she doesn't ''say'' such a thing to Carver, but he tells Hawke that the grief is eating her alive.



* GrumpyOldMan: And not the endearing sort. He never has anything pleasant to say during the time that Hawke and their family live with him; he complains about the dog, and even about Hawke getting ''mail''. Even if diplomatic Hawke tries to be nice to him, he snaps back that they shouldn't bother trying to butter him up. He seems to lighten up once Leandra and her children are out of his house, though, which suggests that living in close quarters with all of them for an entire year may have just pushed his temper too far.

to:

* GrumpyOldMan: And not the endearing sort. He never has anything pleasant to say during the time that Hawke and their family live with him; he complains about the dog, if the ''Black Emporium'' is installed, and even about Hawke getting ''mail''. Even if diplomatic Hawke tries to be nice to him, he snaps back that they shouldn't bother trying to butter him up. He seems to lighten up once Leandra and her children are out of his house, though, which suggests that living in close quarters with all of them for an entire year may have just pushed his temper too far.



** He will also, in a very round about away, give Hawke a SoProudOfYou after Hawke becomes Champion of Kirkwall.

to:

** He will also, in a very round about roundabout away, give Hawke a SoProudOfYou after Hawke becomes Champion of Kirkwall.


Added DiffLines:

* SiblingYinYang: Seems to have a fair bit of this with Leandra, though it's evident that they love each other even if they don't always like each other.
* StrongFamilyResemblance: Implied. Once Hawke reclaims the estate in Hightown, there's a painting on the wall above the writing desk which can be assumed to depict Leandra and Gamlen's father, Aristide Amell. He looks a lot like a younger Gamlen.
14th Oct '17 6:59:17 PM LadyNorbert
Is there an issue? Send a Message


This page is for listing the tropes related to members of Hawke's family or estate who are found in VideoGame/DragonAgeII.

to:

This page is for listing the tropes related to members of Hawke's family or estate who are found in VideoGame/DragonAgeII.
''VideoGame/DragonAgeII''.
14th Oct '17 6:47:13 PM LadyNorbert
Is there an issue? Send a Message


-->'''Leandra:''' I'm still their daughter; the eldest.

to:

-->'''Leandra:''' I'm still their daughter; the their eldest.



* GoodParents: She loves her children very much and has spent most of her adult life protecting them from the Circle.

to:

* GoodParents: She loves her children very much and has spent most of her adult life protecting at least one of them from the Circle.



* {{Hypocrite}}: For all her talk that "love is more important than money," all Leandra does from the moment she arrives in Kirkwall is nag Gamlen about money. She calms down only after Hawke makes their fortune in the Deep Roads and moves her to Hightown, giving her her way.

to:

* {{Hypocrite}}: For all her talk that "love is more important than money," all Leandra does from the moment she arrives in Kirkwall is nag Gamlen about money. She calms down only after Hawke makes their fortune in the Deep Roads and moves her to Hightown, giving letting her have her way.



* IWantGrandkids: A conversation in Act 2 implies that she wants Hawke to settle down for this reason.
* IWasQuiteALooker: Well, she still is for the most part.



* IWantGrandkids: A conversation in Act 2 implies that she wants Hawke to settle down for this reason.
* IWasQuiteALooker: Well, she still is for the most part.



* TheParagonAlwaysRebels: After the will is found, Hawke can have a conversation with Gamlen in which he talks about how their parents had always proudly shown her off to everyone as "the beauty" and "the scholar" of the family. She then turned around and ran away to marry an apostate.



* SurvivorGuilt: If Carver dies, she'll outright tell Bethany she wishes she'd died with him.

to:

* SurvivorGuilt: If Carver dies, she'll outright tell Bethany that she wishes she'd died with him.



* AncestralWeapon: Malcolm's Honor from the first Mage Item Pack is a staff he made and refined over several years in Lothering. The Hawke's Key is the weapon he used to reinforce Corypheus' seals.

to:

* AncestralWeapon: Malcolm's Honor "Malcolm's Honor," from the first Mage ''Mage Item Pack Pack'', is a staff he made and refined over several years in Lothering. The Hawke's Key is the weapon he used to reinforce Corypheus' seals.



** Malcolm seems to have been this, having close friends who were ''Templars'' and leaving such an impression that even after 25 years, Tobrius was instantly able to recognise Malcolm's children.

to:

** Malcolm seems to have been this, having close friends who were ''Templars'' and leaving such an impression that even after 25 years, Tobrius was is instantly able to recognise Malcolm's children.



* PosthumousCharacter: He's dead by the time Hawke's story begins, but his presence is felt throughout.



* PosthumousCharacter: He's dead by the time Hawke's story begins, but his presence is felt throughout.



* SoProudOfYou: If Bethany is alive, he gives a posthumous one through her. He naturally had to spend a lot more time with his only mage child, but he was still deeply proud of his "little soldiers" / "his scoundrel and his soldier".

to:

* SoProudOfYou: If Bethany is alive, alive and comes along for ''Legacy'', he gives a posthumous one through her. He naturally had to spend a lot more time with his only mage child, but she tells Hawke that he was still deeply proud of his "little soldiers" / "his scoundrel and his soldier".soldier."
13th Oct '17 9:49:26 AM LadyNorbert
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* NeverMyFault: Blames Gamlen alone for the loss of the family fortune, despite Gamlen [[JerkassHasAPoint rightfully pointing out]] that Leandra ''chose'' to leave that life behind decades ago. What's more, Leandra admits at one point that the Amells were already in decline before she left because her cousin Revka kept giving birth to mage children, and their parents were trying to [[ArrangedMarriage arrange an advantageous marriage]] to help reverse this, but her running off with an apostate didn't help matters. Combine that with the fact that she left her brother, whom she knew had a gambling problem, to look after the entire estate for decades, and she is half-responsible for the Amells becoming {{Impoverished Patrician}}s. However, any time Gamlen tries to point any of this out she brushes him off.
* OutlivingOnesOffspring: Will inevitably outlive one of the twins, and possibly lose the other later in the game.

to:

* {{Irony}}: Prior to her elopement with Malcolm Hawke, Leandra was betrothed to the Comte de Launcet, and she says that a big part of the reason her parents disowned her for her marriage was because magic was really strong in the family line, and by marrying an apostate, she was bringing in more magic, not less. But Hawke encounters the de Launcets in the course of the game, and they too have a mage son - meaning that Leandra very possibly would have been bringing more magic into the family line even if she'd done what her parents wanted.
* NeverMyFault: Blames Gamlen alone for the loss of the family fortune, despite Gamlen [[JerkassHasAPoint rightfully pointing out]] that Leandra ''chose'' to leave that life behind decades ago. What's more, Leandra admits at one point that the Amells were already in decline before she left because her cousin Revka kept giving birth to mage children, and their parents were trying to [[ArrangedMarriage arrange an advantageous marriage]] to help reverse this, but her running off with an apostate didn't help matters. Combine that with the fact that she left her brother, whom she knew had a gambling problem, to look after the entire estate for decades, and she is half-responsible for the Amells becoming {{Impoverished Patrician}}s. However, any time Gamlen tries to point any of this out out, she brushes him off.
* OutlivingOnesOffspring: Will inevitably outlive one One of the twins, and possibly lose the other later her twin children will always die in the game.prologue. The other may die at the end of Act 1.
13th Oct '17 9:32:57 AM LadyNorbert
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** Though not nearly as pronounced as with Sebastian, a very subtle and mostly innocent ShipTease exists between her and ''Varric'', of all people. He sometimes calls her "Milady" or "Milady Sunshine," which makes her giggle, and he has a number of party banter lines in which he compliments her beauty. She's also the only party member to whom he is absolutely never snarky. [[spoiler:He expresses regret for her fate if she joins the Circle, and if she dies in the Deep Roads, he laments her loss and swears vengeance against Bartrand for causing it; if she becomes a Warden, he's pretty much the only party member with whom her interactions aren't cold. In either case, if she's brought back for the DLC adventures, he all but outright states that he's missed her and is clearly happy to have her there.]] There's a lot of affection in their interactions, and his dialogue in ''Inquisition'' indicates that he writes to her frequently.

to:

** Though not nearly as pronounced as with Sebastian, a very subtle and mostly innocent sweet ShipTease exists between her and ''Varric'', of all people.people. His nickname for her, Sunshine, potentially has a secondary meaning when you take into account the various lines he has about preferring sunny weather. He sometimes calls her "Milady" or "Milady Sunshine," which makes her giggle, and he has a number of party banter lines in which he compliments her beauty. She's also the only party member to whom he is absolutely never snarky. [[spoiler:He expresses regret for her fate if she joins the Circle, and if she dies in the Deep Roads, he laments her loss and swears vengeance against Bartrand for causing it; if she becomes a Warden, he's pretty much the only party member with whom her interactions aren't cold. In either case, if she's brought back for the DLC adventures, he all but outright states that he's missed her and is clearly happy to have her there.]] There's a lot of affection in their interactions, and his dialogue in ''Inquisition'' indicates that he writes to her frequently.



* SingleWomanSeeksGoodMan: Seems to have a thing for [[ReligiousBruiser Sebastian]].

to:

* SingleWomanSeeksGoodMan: Seems to have a thing for [[ReligiousBruiser Sebastian]].Sebastian]] if his DLC is installed.



* TomboyAndGirlyGirl: If Hawke is female, Bethany is the girly-girl to Hawke's tomboy, if only because Hawke doesn't really have any options to be particularly girlish in her wardrobe. Taking Bethany along for ''Mark of the Assassin'', especially in Act 1, shows that she really enjoys the pretty Orlesian clothes and would love to have some. By contrast, her sister wears stylish but practical trousers and shirt.

to:

* TomboyAndGirlyGirl: If Hawke is female, Bethany is the girly-girl to Hawke's tomboy, if only because Hawke doesn't really have any options to be particularly girlish in her wardrobe. Taking Bethany along for ''Mark of the Assassin'', especially in Act 1, Assassin'' shows that she really enjoys the pretty Orlesian clothes dresses and shoes, and would love to have some. By contrast, her sister wears a stylish but practical trousers and shirt.shirt combination.



* WeHelpTheHelpless: [[spoiler: In ''Inquisition'', Varric says that a Circle mage Bethany is helping refugees in the Free Marches.]]

to:

* WeHelpTheHelpless: [[spoiler: In ''Inquisition'', when asked about his companions' whereabouts, Varric says that a Circle mage Bethany [[spoiler:Circle!]]Bethany is helping refugees in the Free Marches.]]



* SelfServingMemory: If he doesn't subconsciously play up his memories of being TheUnfavorite to justify taking his sister's inheritance, then he seems to overlook that he had a gambling problem even when his parents were still alive, so it's very likely that they left control of the family fortune to Leandra because they knew he was bad with money, not because they didn't love him. Leandra also has to remind that she didn't come to their parents' funeral because the twins had just been born.

to:

* SelfServingMemory: If he doesn't subconsciously play up his memories of being TheUnfavorite to justify taking his sister's inheritance, then he seems to overlook that he had a gambling problem even when his parents were still alive, so it's very likely that they left control of the family fortune to Leandra because they knew he was bad with money, not because they didn't love him. Leandra also has to remind him that she didn't come to their parents' funeral because the twins had just been born.
13th Oct '17 9:09:34 AM LadyNorbert
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* BigBrotherInstinct: Played tragically [[spoiler:when Leandra dies. His anguish at her death is heartbreaking, and he reverses so much of his old resentment in place of regret.]] Played heartwarmingly in the next act, [[spoiler:should Hawke reunite him with his illegitimate daughter, Charade. If you speak kindly of him to her, they will reconcile, and at the end, Gamlen will admit that if he sired as an admirable man/woman as Hawke, Malcolm Hawke must have been a great man himself, and worthy of his sister.]] Despite being a grumpy, pitiful, and altogether resentful deadbeat, that one moment lifts his character up so much.
* CharacterDevelopment: Gamlen starts out a sleazy man resentful of his sister for inheriting the estate despite running off with an apostate mage. Over the game, both [[spoiler: Leandra's death and finding out about and meeting his daughter Charade]] turn him into a better man, forgiving Leandra when he believes Malcolm was worthy of her.

to:

* BigBrotherInstinct: Played tragically [[spoiler:when Leandra dies. His anguish at her death is heartbreaking, and he reverses so much of his old resentment in place of regret.]] Played heartwarmingly in the next act, [[spoiler:should Hawke reunite him with his illegitimate daughter, Charade. If you speak kindly of him to her, they will reconcile, and at the end, Gamlen will admit that if he sired as an admirable a man/woman as Hawke, Malcolm Hawke must have been a great man himself, and worthy of his sister.]] Despite being a grumpy, pitiful, and altogether resentful deadbeat, that one moment lifts his character up so much.
* CharacterDevelopment: Gamlen starts out a sleazy man man, resentful of his sister for inheriting the estate despite running off with an apostate mage. Over the game, both [[spoiler: Leandra's death and finding out about and meeting his daughter Charade]] turn him into a better man, forgiving Leandra when he believes Malcolm was worthy of her.



** He has a few shades of this, such as his uncomfortable interest in Female!Hawke's relationship should she romance Isabela.

to:

** He has a few shades of this, such as his uncomfortable interest in Female!Hawke's female Hawke's relationship should she romance Isabela.



* GrumpyOldMan: And not the endearing sort. He never has anything pleasant to say during the time that Hawke and their family live with him; he complains about the dog, and even about Hawke getting ''mail''. Even if diplomatic Hawke tries to be nice to him, he snaps back that they shouldn't bother trying to butter him up. He seems to lighten up once Leandra and her children are out of his house, though, which suggests that living in close quarters with all of them for an entire year may have just pushed his temper too far.



-->'''Gamlen:''' We all have our burdens to bear. Mine was taking care of the life you '''chose''' to leave behind.

to:

-->'''Gamlen:''' We all have our burdens to bear. Mine was taking care of the life you '''chose''' ''chose'' to leave behind.



* TheResenter: Dislikes his sister for running off with an apostate, leaving him to tend to his dying parents. And all they talked about was her. [[spoiler:Even then, he still mourns Leandra's death.]]
* SelfServingMemory: If he doesn't subconsciously play up his memories of being TheUnfavorite to justify taking his sister's inheritance, then he seems to overlook that he had a gambling problem even when his parents were still alive, so it's very likely that they left control of the family fortune to Leandra because they knew he was bad with money and not because they didn't love him. Leandra even has to remind that she didn't come to their parents' funeral because the twins had just been born.

to:

* TheResenter: Dislikes his sister for running off with an apostate, leaving him to tend to his their dying parents. And all they talked about was her. [[spoiler:Even then, he still mourns Leandra's death.]]
* SelfServingMemory: If he doesn't subconsciously play up his memories of being TheUnfavorite to justify taking his sister's inheritance, then he seems to overlook that he had a gambling problem even when his parents were still alive, so it's very likely that they left control of the family fortune to Leandra because they knew he was bad with money and money, not because they didn't love him. Leandra even also has to remind that she didn't come to their parents' funeral because the twins had just been born.



** After Hawke regains the family fortune, it's implied Gamlen regularly tries to foist his unpaid debts upon his wealthy niece/nephew. In ''Inquisition'', Varric may tell a story about helping Hawke deal with some debtors who came to the estate to try and get Hawke to pay what Gamlen owed them.

to:

** After Hawke regains returns from the Deep Roads expedition and reclaims the family fortune, home, it's implied that Gamlen regularly tries to foist his unpaid debts upon his wealthy niece/nephew. In ''Inquisition'', [[spoiler:if Hawke is left in the Fade]], Varric may tell a story about helping Hawke deal with some debtors who came to the estate to try and get Hawke to pay what Gamlen owed them.
11th Oct '17 9:07:38 PM LadyNorbert
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* TheEeyore: As a [[spoiler: Grey Warden, she becomes this. Nothing stops her from angsting and lamenting the life of a Warden. Justified in that a Warden's life really does suck when one stops to think about it.]]



* TheEeyore: As a [[spoiler: Grey Warden, she becomes this. Nothing stops her from angsting and lamenting the life of a Warden. Justified in that a Warden's life really does suck when one stops to think about it.]]

to:

* TheEeyore: As a [[spoiler: Grey Warden, she becomes this. Nothing stops her from angsting EveryonesBabySister: It comes with being both the youngest companion and lamenting the life of a Warden. Justified in only one (besides Varric) that a Warden's life really does suck when one stops to think about it.]]everyone likes.
8th Oct '17 1:57:25 PM acrobox
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* ActionGirl: If female.



* BadassPrincess: A female Hawke becomes part of the nobility of Kirkwall, and is thus rightfully entitled to be called Lady Hawke (in addition to Champion). In addition, there are some further royal upgrades available depending on player choices. [[spoiler:If female Hawke sides with the Templars, she will end the game as Viscountess of Kirkwall. And if she romances Sebastian, the game can end with a declaration of their intent to get married, which makes her Princess of Starkhaven.]]



* BoyishShortHair: The default female Hawke look, as appropriate for a ''very'' formidable ActionGirl.

to:

* BoyishShortHair: The default female Hawke look, as appropriate for a ''very'' formidable ActionGirl.Action Girl.



* {{Warrior Prince}}ss: A female Hawke becomes part of the nobility of Kirkwall, and is thus rightfully entitled to be called Lady Hawke (in addition to Champion). In addition, there are some further royal upgrades available depending on player choices. [[spoiler:If female Hawke sides with the Templars, she will end the game as Viscountess of Kirkwall. And if she romances Sebastian, the game can end with a declaration of their intent to get married, which makes her Princess of Starkhaven.]]



* ActionGirl: Has no fear charging into any situation with her magic, even as she tries to hide it.



* HotBlooded: Has no fear charging into any situation with her magic, even as she tries to hide it.



* ActionGirl: She appears to take after her cousins in this respect.
24th Sep '17 4:01:48 PM nombretomado
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* AdaptationalBadass: Played with. Hawke is already a certified badass, but Varric is often found telling stories in the Hanged Man that [[MemeticBadass exaggerate it]] [[ChuckNorrisFacts to truly ridiculous levels]]. By Act 3, there are people claiming that Hawke [[spoiler:uses the Arishok's skull as a gravy boat]] and sleeps on a bed of dragon bones.

to:

* AdaptationalBadass: Played with. Hawke is already a certified badass, but Varric is often found telling stories in the Hanged Man that [[MemeticBadass exaggerate it]] [[ChuckNorrisFacts [[Website/ChuckNorrisFacts to truly ridiculous levels]]. By Act 3, there are people claiming that Hawke [[spoiler:uses the Arishok's skull as a gravy boat]] and sleeps on a bed of dragon bones.
19th Sep '17 6:26:45 AM nighttrainfm
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* AnimalMotif: [[NobleBirdOfPrey Hawks]], [[AnimalThemeNaming of course]].

to:

* AnimalMotif: AnimalMotifs: [[NobleBirdOfPrey Hawks]], [[AnimalThemeNaming of course]].
This list shows the last 10 events of 604. Show all.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Characters.DragonAgeIIHawkeEstate