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**[[spoiler: Coincidently, Merrill is the women he has trouble wooing most... Merrill's Adorkableness doesn't help]]
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* AngstySurvivingTwin: Downplayed, but Bethany seems more affected by Carver's death later on in life. Particularly telling is when, seven years after he died, she admits that she deeply regrets not stopping him from charging that Ogre.
* AwesomeMcCoolname: Despite it being a FanNickname for a female PC, Bethany is the one that gets called Lady Hawke (in the ''Legacy'' DLC).

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* AngstySurvivingTwin: Downplayed, but Bethany seems more is certainly affected by Carver's death later on in life. Particularly the loss of Carver. Her first party banter with Varric after they meet him is about how much she misses her twin, and if the ''Black Emporium'' DLC is installed, she admits to Hawke how jealous Carver was that the dog chose them to be his master. It's particularly telling is when, that, seven years after he died, she admits says that the one thing in her life she truly regrets is that she deeply regrets not stopping couldn't stop him from charging that Ogre.
* AwesomeMcCoolname: Despite it being a FanNickname for a female PC, Bethany is the one that gets called Lady Hawke (in the ''Legacy'' DLC).DLC, if she and Sebastian are both brought as companions).



** On learning she is a virgin, Isabela offers to buy her a night at the Blooming Rose.
** If she goes to [[spoiler: the Circle]], Isabela apparently sends her a lot of suggestive books to get her through the night.

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** On learning she is a virgin, Isabela offers to buy her a night at the Blooming Rose.
Rose. It's unknown whether this ever actually happens.
** If she goes to [[spoiler: the Circle]], Isabela apparently sends her a lot of suggestive books to get her through the night. (However, this is only mentioned if they're both brought as companions in ''Mark of the Assassin''.)



* TheCutie: She has a fair few of the trope's requisites, including being incredibly sweet, kind to everyone, and demonstrably affectionate. She's also subjected to both BreakTheCutie and CorruptTheCutie, as noted above.



* EveryonesBabySister: It comes with being both the youngest companion and the only one (besides Varric) that everyone likes.
* FantasticRacism: Bethany hates Qunari; she had a friend in the family that [[VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins Sten]] murdered. This leads to a horribly ironic moment in the prologue: [[spoiler: either she or her twin brother are killed by an ogre while fleeing Lothering. Ogres are Kossith-based darkspawn. It also becomes EnemyMine in ''Mark of the Assassin''.]]

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* EveryonesBabySister: It comes with being both the youngest companion and the only one (besides Varric) that everyone likes.
likes. Being Hawke's actual little sister also contributes to the role.
* FantasticRacism: Bethany hates Qunari; Qunari, though she has more justification than most; she had a friend in the family that [[VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins Sten]] murdered. This leads to a horribly ironic moment in the prologue: [[spoiler: either she or her twin brother are killed by an ogre while fleeing Lothering. Ogres are Kossith-based darkspawn. It also becomes EnemyMine in ''Mark of the Assassin''.]]



* HotBlooded: Has no fear charging into any situation with her magic, even as she tries to hide it.
* IJustWantToBeNormal: Her biggest wish is to be normal, as revealed in party banter with Merrill, and she resents all of the hardships brought upon her family in order to keep her safe. Her codex entry mentions that, should Hawke be a mage him/herself, she deeply envied how her eldest sibling embraced their powers instead of fearing them. ''The World of Thedas, vol. 2'' contains a report, written by someone who met the family in Lothering and was somehow privy to Bethany's apostate status, which talks about how much the girl clearly would rather not have magic.

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* HotBlooded: Has She has no fear charging into any situation with her magic, even as she tries to hide it.
* IJustWantToBeNormal: Her biggest wish is to be normal, as revealed in party banter with Merrill, and she resents all of the hardships brought upon her family in order to keep her safe. Her codex entry mentions that, should Hawke be a mage him/herself, she deeply envied how her eldest sibling embraced their powers instead of fearing them. ''The World of Thedas, vol. 2'' contains a report, written by someone who met the family in Lothering and was somehow privy to young Bethany's apostate status, which talks about how much the girl clearly would rather not have magic.



* ImpaledWithExtremePrejudice: [[spoiler:If she goes to the Circle and you side with the Templars, Meredith will run her through unless you step in.]]

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* ImpaledWithExtremePrejudice: [[spoiler:If she goes to the Circle and you side with the Templars, Meredith will run her through unless you step in.Hawke stops her.]]



* PlayingWithFire: Bethany definitely qualifies, starting with fire spells, a staff that shoots fire, and using fire spells in cutscenes when she attacks.

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* PlayingWithFire: Bethany definitely qualifies, starting with as she's first seen using fire spells, spells; she has a staff that shoots fire, fire and using uses fire spells in cutscenes when she attacks.



** TheBusCameBack: [[spoiler:She rejoins your party for the final battle and is usable in the [=DLC=] missions.]]
** In ''Inquisition'', [[spoiler: Warden!Bethany]] is sent away by Hawke as soon as she [[spoiler: hears Corypheus' fake Calling.]]
* TheRedMage: Does not have the party heals or revives of Anders, or the hell-raising blood magic of Merrill, but has access to a great deal of offensive and defensive magic, plus healing, which Merrill lacks. Properly built, she is one of the most versatile mages in the game, subverting the MasterOfNone stigma associated with them. As an Elemental/Force Mage, this becomes [[LightningBruiser even more apparent]].

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** TheBusCameBack: [[spoiler:She rejoins your party for the final battle and is usable in the [=DLC=] DLC missions.]]
** In ''Inquisition'', [[spoiler: Warden!Bethany]] is sent away by Hawke as soon as she [[spoiler: hears Corypheus' the fake Calling.]]
Calling created by Corypheus]]. Meanwhile, [[spoiler:Circle!Bethany]] is also sent away, in order to keep her as far as possible from the mage-Templar conflict.
* TheRedMage: Does not Bethany doesn't have the party heals or revives of Anders, or the hell-raising blood magic of Merrill, but has access to a great deal of offensive and defensive magic, plus healing, which Merrill lacks. Properly built, she is one of the most versatile mages in the game, subverting the MasterOfNone stigma associated with them. As an Elemental/Force Mage, this becomes [[LightningBruiser even more apparent]].



** A very sweet ShipTease exists between her and ''Varric'', of all people; their relationship is examined in detail on the Heartwarming page. He sometimes calls her "Milady,” “Milady Sunshine," or “my Sunshine,” which makes her giggle, and he has a number of party banter lines in which he compliments her beauty. She's also the only party member to whom he is absolutely never snarky. There's a lot of affection in their interactions, and his dialogue in ''Inquisition'' indicates that he writes to her frequently.

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** A very sweet ShipTease exists between her and ''Varric'', of all people; their relationship is examined in detail on the Heartwarming page. He sometimes calls her "Milady,” “Milady "my lady," "Milady Sunshine," or “my Sunshine,” "my Sunshine," which makes her giggle, and he has a number of party banter lines in which he compliments her beauty. She's also the only party member to whom he is absolutely never snarky. There's a lot of affection in their interactions, and his dialogue in ''Inquisition'' indicates that he writes to her frequently.



* SingleWomanSeeksGoodMan: Seems to have a thing for [[ReligiousBruiser Sebastian]] if his DLC is installed.

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* SingleWomanSeeksGoodMan: Seems She seems to have a thing for [[ReligiousBruiser Sebastian]] if his DLC is installed.



* TheUnfavorite: [[DiscussedTrope Discussed]] if Bethany is brought along for ''Legacy'' before Act 3. [[spoiler:Learning that Malcom didn't want to pass on his magic shocks Bethany, who if alive was the only one of the three to share his power. She wonders if Malcom secretly resented her, which Hawke is very quick to shut down; [[SubvertedTrope the only thing Malcom resented is that Bethany carried a burden the rest of their family couldn't comprehend]].]]

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* TheUnfavorite: [[DiscussedTrope Discussed]] if Bethany is brought along for ''Legacy'' before Act 3. [[spoiler:Learning that Malcom Malcolm didn't want to pass on his magic shocks Bethany, who if alive was the only one of the three to share his power. She wonders if Malcom Malcolm secretly resented her, which Hawke is very quick to shut down; [[SubvertedTrope the only thing Malcom Malcolm resented is that Bethany carried a burden the rest of their family couldn't comprehend]].]]



* AngstySurvivingTwin: Carver is extremely upset about Bethany's death in Act 1; he outright blames Hawke for it. He calms down after getting it off his chest.

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* AngstySurvivingTwin: Carver is extremely upset about Bethany's death in Act 1; he outright blames Hawke for it. He calms down after getting it off his chest. If brought along for ''Legacy'', he may talk about how much he misses her.



* ChivalrousPervert: Especially to Merrill, whom he has a crush on.

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* ChivalrousPervert: Especially to Merrill, on whom he has a crush on.crush.



** It's implied Aveline denies his application to the Kirkwall City Guard in Act 1 in part because of this. She recognises that he doesn't really want to be a Guard; he just wants to be a part of something and would join ''anything''.

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** It's implied Aveline denies his application to the Kirkwall City Guard in Act 1 in part because of this. She recognises that he doesn't really want to be a Guard; guard; he just wants to be a part of something and would join ''anything''.



* EmbarrassingNickname: Early on, Carver expresses resentment towards [[WellDoneSonGuy Varric giving him the nickname "Jr."]] Varric then calls him [[TakeThat "Little Hawke"]] instead.

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* EmbarrassingNickname: Early on, Carver expresses resentment towards [[WellDoneSonGuy Varric giving him the nickname "Jr."Junior."]] Varric then calls him [[TakeThat "Little Hawke"]] instead.



* EmergencyTransformation: [[spoiler:How he becomes a Warden in the Deep Roads - ''if'' you have Anders with you]].

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* EmergencyTransformation: [[spoiler:How he becomes a Warden in the Deep Roads - ''if'' you have Anders with you]].you.]]



* IfItsYouItsOkay: Despite his issues with mages, he seems to have a bit of a crush on Merrill and awkwardly ([[ObliviousToLove and with no success]]) tries to flirt with her a few times and ask her out, even if he ends up as a [[spoiler:Templar]].



* IfItsYouItsOkay: Despite his issues with mages, he seems to have a bit of a crush on Merrill and awkwardly ([[ObliviousToLove and with no success]]) tries to flirt with her a few times and ask her out, even if he ends up as a [[spoiler:Templar]].



* LeeroyJenkins: You can practically hear it when he runs towards the Ogre in the Prologue. Oh Carver, we know you mean well, but what did you ''think'' would happen?

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* LeeroyJenkins: You can practically hear it when he runs towards the Ogre in the Prologue.Prologue of a non-mage playthrough. Oh Carver, we know you mean well, but what did you ''think'' would happen?



* NeverMyFault: All of his problems are somehow his older sibling's fault. If you take him into the Deep Roads and he survives [[spoiler:the Blight sickness]] by [[spoiler:becoming a Grey Warden]], he somehow manages to convince himself that that was all big brother/sister's fault, too, even though he literally begged to come along.
* NobleBigotWithABadge: [[spoiler:Can become a Templar.]]

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* NeverMyFault: All of his problems are somehow his older sibling's fault. If you take him into the Deep Roads and he survives [[spoiler:the Blight sickness]] by [[spoiler:becoming a Grey Warden]], he somehow manages to convince himself that that ''that'' was all big brother/sister's fault, too, even though he literally begged to come along.
* NobleBigotWithABadge: [[spoiler:Can [[spoiler:He can become a Templar.]]



** In ''Inquisition'', [[spoiler: Warden!Carver]] is sent away by Hawke as soon as he [[spoiler: hears Corypheus' fake Calling.]]

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** In ''Inquisition'', [[spoiler: Warden!Carver]] is sent away by Hawke as soon as he [[spoiler: hears Corypheus' the fake Calling.]]Calling created by Corypheus]]. Meanwhile, [[spoiler:Templar!Carver]] is also sent away, in order to keep him as far as possible from the mage-Templar conflict.



-->'''Carver:''' Still think your helping by burying us in debt to your brother?
-->'''Varric:''' Still riding side saddle while bitching at your betters?

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-->'''Carver:''' Still think your you're helping by burying us in debt to your brother?
-->'''Varric:''' Still riding side saddle sidesaddle while bitching at your betters?



* YoureNotMyFather: ''Legacy'' implies that Hawke greatly takes after Malcolm, particularly in personality. One can imagine that part of the reason that Carver feels so much resentment towards Hawke is due to the death of their father, which would be twice as hard to deal with when their eldest sibling, who is essentially the same person, then stepped into the role as head of the household.

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* YoureNotMyFather: ''Legacy'' implies that Hawke greatly takes after Malcolm, particularly in personality. One can imagine that part of the reason that Carver feels so much resentment towards Hawke is due to the death of their father, which would be twice as hard to deal with when their his eldest sibling, who is essentially the same person, then stepped into the role as head of the household.



* AllGirlsWantBadBoys: Subverted to hell and back. On paper, the backstory of her romance with Malcolm Hawke looks like the typical dashing rogue sweeping the innocent noblewoman off her feet with his charms, his wit, and his exhilarating lifestyle. Malcolm, for his part, fits this image pretty well, being an outlaw from the Circle of Magi and a one-time mercenary. Then, come ''Legacy'', Hawke learns a lot more about Malcolm and he turns out to be a nice guy, and a shining example of an honorable apostate.
* AllTakeAndNoGive: To her Kirkwall family, especially Gamlen. After abandoning the family to marry an apostate (knowing it would further damage their already dwindling status) and leaving her brother to take care of everything (including their dying parents and the estate after they were gone), she returns years later expecting to be taken care of in the lifestyle she left, is not pleased when Gamlen tells her the fortune is gone, and refuses to get a job or pay rent.

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* AllGirlsWantBadBoys: Subverted to hell and back. On paper, the backstory of her romance with Malcolm Hawke looks like the typical dashing rogue sweeping the innocent noblewoman off her feet with his charms, his wit, and his exhilarating lifestyle. Malcolm, for his part, fits this image pretty well, being an outlaw from the Circle of Magi and a one-time mercenary. Then, come ''Legacy'', Hawke learns a lot more about Malcolm and he turns out to be a nice guy, truly {{nice guy}}, and a shining example of an honorable apostate.
* AllTakeAndNoGive: To her Kirkwall family, especially Gamlen. After abandoning the family to marry an apostate (knowing it would further damage their already dwindling status) and leaving her brother to take care of everything (including their dying parents and the estate after they were gone), she returns years later expecting to be taken care of in restored to the lifestyle she left, left. She is not pleased when Gamlen tells her the fortune is gone, and refuses to get a job or pay rent.



* DeadPersonConversation: If the ''Legacy'' DLC is completed after the quest "All That Remains," [[spoiler:Leandra briefly appears at the Hawke Estate at the end of the DLC and speaks with Hawke.]]
* EntitledBastard: While she is a rather nice person, the game makes it clear that she feels ''entitled'' to the [[OldMoney comfortable lifestyle]] she chose to leave behind years ago, and does not stop complaining about not having it until Hawke strikes gold in the Deep Roads.

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* DeadPersonConversation: If the ''Legacy'' DLC is completed after the quest "All That Remains," [[spoiler:Leandra briefly appears at the Hawke Estate estate at the end of the DLC and speaks with Hawke.]]
* EntitledBastard: While she is a rather generally nice person, the game makes it clear that she feels ''entitled'' to the [[OldMoney comfortable lifestyle]] she chose to leave behind years ago, and does not stop complaining about not having it until Hawke strikes gold in the Deep Roads.



** ParentsAsPeople: On the other hand, the game shows that she's rather proud, lazy, and self-entitled, and is more than willing to sit back and let her kids do all the heavy lifting to get their family back on their feet (from fighting bad guys to risking their lives trying to find treasure in the Deep Roads), rather than at least try to get a job or contribute in some way.

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** ParentsAsPeople: On the other hand, the game shows that she's rather proud, lazy, and self-entitled, entitled, and is more than willing to sit back and let her kids do all the heavy lifting to get their family back on their feet (from fighting bad guys to risking their lives trying to find treasure in the Deep Roads), rather than at least try to get a job or contribute in some way.



* ImpoverishedPatrician: Though in her case, she gave up her title and fortune willingly. But when Lothering was destroyed, she expected to be able to get it back the moment she returned. She does in Act 2, though not without some considerable work on Hawke's part.

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* ImpoverishedPatrician: Though in her case, she gave up her title and fortune willingly. But when Lothering was is destroyed, she expected expects to be able to get it back the moment she returned.returns. She does in Act 2, though not without some considerable work on Hawke's part.



* {{Irony}}: Prior to her elopement with Malcolm Hawke, Leandra was betrothed to the Comte de Launcet, and she says that a big part of the reason her parents disowned her for her marriage was because magic was really strong in the family line, and by marrying an apostate, she was bringing in more magic, not less. But Hawke encounters the de Launcets in the course of the game, and they too have a mage son - meaning that Leandra very possibly would have been bringing more magic into the family line even if she'd done what her parents wanted.

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* {{Irony}}: Prior to her elopement with Malcolm Hawke, Leandra was betrothed to the Comte de Launcet, and she says that a big part of the reason her parents disowned her for her marriage was because magic was really strong in the Amell family line, and by marrying an apostate, she was bringing in more magic, not less. But Hawke encounters the de Launcets in the course of the game, and they too have a mage son - meaning that Leandra very possibly would have been bringing more magic into the family line even if she'd done what her parents wanted.



* ProdigalHero: Played with in that while Leandra is the Kirkwall native who used to live in the lap of luxury, eloped with an apostate, built a charmed life with her new husband and family in Lothering, then was ''forced'' to return home on her knees after her new home was destroyed by the Blight, Leandra herself doesn't become Kirkwall's Champion; her eldest son/daughter does.

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* ProdigalHero: Played with in that while with. Leandra is the Kirkwall native who used to live in the lap of luxury, eloped with an apostate, built a charmed life with her new husband and family in Lothering, then was ''forced'' to return home on her knees after her new home was destroyed by the Blight, Blight. However, Leandra herself doesn't become Kirkwall's Champion; her eldest son/daughter child does.



* VagueAge: It's hard to tell just how old Leandra is. Hawke is canonically 25 at the start of the game, so it's hard to imagine that she's much more than 45-50; yet her hair is fully turned gray and, in the second act (when Hawke is 28), she describes herself as being "in my dotage."



* BigBrotherInstinct: Played tragically [[spoiler:when Leandra dies. His anguish at her death is heartbreaking, and he reverses so much of his old resentment in place of regret.]] Played heartwarmingly in the next act, [[spoiler:should Hawke reunite him with his daughter, Charade. If you speak kindly of him to her, they will reconcile, and at the end, Gamlen will admit that if he sired as admirable a man/woman as Hawke, Malcolm Hawke must have been a great man himself, and worthy of his sister.]] Despite being a grumpy, pitiful, and altogether resentful deadbeat, that one moment lifts his character up so much.

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* BigBrotherInstinct: Played tragically [[spoiler:when Leandra dies. His anguish at her death is heartbreaking, and he reverses so much of his old resentment in place out of regret.]] Played heartwarmingly in the next act, [[spoiler:should Hawke reunite him with his daughter, Charade. If you speak kindly of him to her, they will reconcile, and at the end, Gamlen will admit that if he sired as admirable a man/woman as Hawke, Malcolm Hawke must have been a great man himself, and worthy of his sister.]] Despite being a grumpy, pitiful, and altogether resentful deadbeat, that one moment lifts his character up so much.



** JerkassHasAPoint: For all his vices and unpleasantness (and his hand in taking and losing the family estate), Gamlen is not ''entirely'' wrong when he says that Leandra ''chose'' to leave the family fortune behind years ago, didn't return even when her family needed her, and that she ''expected'' the family fortune to be waiting for her whenever she came back, despite doing ''none'' of the work to help maintain it over the years.

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** JerkassHasAPoint: For all his vices and unpleasantness (and his hand in taking and losing the family estate), Gamlen is not ''entirely'' wrong when he says that Leandra ''chose'' to leave the family fortune behind years ago, didn't return even when her family needed her, and that she ''expected'' the family fortune to be waiting for her whenever she came back, despite doing ''none'' of the work to help maintain it over the years.



* VagueAge: Like his sister, it's really hard to tell just how old Gamlen is. In fact, even though he's Leandra's ''younger'' brother, he looks much older; his assorted vices have caused him to not age well.



** After Hawke returns from the Deep Roads expedition and reclaims the family home, it's implied that Gamlen regularly tries to foist his unpaid debts upon his wealthy niece/nephew. In ''Inquisition'', [[spoiler:if Hawke is left in the Fade]], Varric may tell a story about helping Hawke deal with some debtors who came to the estate to try and get Hawke to pay what Gamlen owed them.

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** After Hawke returns from the Deep Roads expedition and reclaims the family home, it's implied that Gamlen regularly tries to foist his unpaid debts upon his wealthy niece/nephew. In ''Inquisition'', [[spoiler:if Hawke is left in the Fade]], Fade,]] Varric may tell a story about helping Hawke deal with some debtors who came to the estate to try and get Hawke to pay what Gamlen owed them.



* LongLostRelative: To the Amell and Hawke family. And considering the bereavement of Hawke's immediate family by the end of the game, the addition of Charade to their lives comes as a ''very'' welcome boon.

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* LongLostRelative: To the Amell and Hawke family. And considering Considering the bereavement of Hawke's immediate family by the end of the game, the addition of Charade to their lives comes as a ''very'' welcome boon.
25th Mar '18 12:52:37 PM RainbowPhoenix
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* ProperlyParanoid: Between ''II'' and ''Inquisition'', [[spoiler:Hawke suspects Corypheus's involvement in the strange behavior of the Wardens despite believing him to be dead. If romantically involved with Anders and/or the surviving twin joined the Warden, Hawke takes this as a cue to get them as far away as possible.]]
20th Mar '18 9:52:30 PM Give1Take2
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* ParentalFavoritism: Downplayed. She's more protective of the surviving twin than with Hawke, to the point that she'll beg not to let the surviving twin go into the Deep Roads since it's "too dangerous"; being seemingly okay with Hawke risking his or her life going down there. (Of course, it could be residual trauma from losing the first twin; or a GutFeeling, considering what happens...)



* IAmWhatIAm: Gamlen knows he's a [[TheGamblingAddict gambling addict]] and [[LowerClassLout lower-class lout]], and is mostly okay with it. He's also the only member of the Hawke/Amell family not to harbor a serious entitlement complex with regards to his in-born nobility; mostly content to live in his hovel in Lowtown, and is neither shown asking nor joining the Hawke family in Act 2 after Hawke struck gold in the Deep Roads. The only thing he seems to resent is being TheUnFavorite; it's hard to blame him for that.

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* IAmWhatIAm: Gamlen knows he's a [[TheGamblingAddict gambling addict]] and [[LowerClassLout lower-class lout]], and is mostly okay with it. He's also the only member of the Hawke/Amell family not to harbor a serious entitlement complex with regards to regarding his in-born nobility; nobility. He's mostly content to live in his hovel in Lowtown, hovel, and is neither shown asking nor joining the Hawke family in Act 2 after Hawke struck gold in the Deep Roads. 2. The only thing he seems to resent is being TheUnFavorite; TheUnFavorite, and it's hard to blame him for that.



*** Also, for all Leandra's talk that "love is more important than money," all she does from the moment they reunite is nag and criticize Gamlen for not having as much money as she expected him to have, ''even before'' it's revealed that their parents left her everything. It's hard to blame him for being bitter.

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*** ** Also, for all Leandra's talk that "love is more important than money," all she does from the moment they reunite is nag and criticize Gamlen for not having as much money as she expected him to have, ''even before'' it's revealed that their parents left her everything. It's hard to blame him for being bitter.
7th Mar '18 10:12:20 PM LadyNorbert
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-->'''Bethany:''' I've tried to get mother to look for work, or reconnect with some of her childhood friends. But she went to visit the Comte de Launcet once, and now she refuses to try again. She says it's just "too pathetic."

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-->'''Bethany:''' I've tried to get mother Mother to look for work, or reconnect with some of her childhood friends. But she went to visit the Comte de Launcet once, and now she refuses to try again. She says it's just "too pathetic."



* ShipperOnDeck: She seems to support Hawke's relationship with the chosen love interest in dialogue, regardless of who it is. However, this is also the same conversation she can end by declaring her intention find him/her a proper wife/husband...

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* ShipperOnDeck: She seems to support Hawke's relationship with the chosen love interest in dialogue, regardless of who it is. However, this is also the same conversation she can end by declaring her intention to find him/her a proper wife/husband...
5th Mar '18 1:07:51 PM beyondthesea
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* RefusalOfTheSecondCall: Qualifies as one InUniverse, because no matter how Dragon Age II ends, [[spoiler:things are still pretty awful in Kirkwall, and eventually they disappear because they've had enough. The reason that Varric pretends not to know where Hawke is during the second and third game is because he feels that his friend has [[TheChewToy been through enough]]. He only relents to calling Hawke in when it's absolutely unavoidable.]]
4th Mar '18 4:29:04 PM LadyNorbert
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* EatingTheEyeCandy: Bethany is ''very'' appreciative of Sebatian's looks.

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* EatingTheEyeCandy: Bethany is ''very'' appreciative of Sebatian's Sebastian's looks.



* GreenEyedMonster: If Hawke is romancing Sebastian, Bethany frequently displays this.

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* GreenEyedMonster: If Hawke is romancing Sebastian, Bethany frequently displays this.this, should both she and Sebastian be brought as companions for either DLC campaign.



** A very sweet ShipTease exists between her and ''Varric'', of all people. He sometimes calls her "Milady" or "Milady Sunshine," which makes her giggle, and he has a number of party banter lines in which he compliments her beauty. She's also the only party member to whom he is absolutely never snarky. [[spoiler:He expresses regret for her fate if she joins the Circle, and if she dies in the Deep Roads, he laments her loss and swears vengeance against Bartrand for causing it; if she becomes a Warden, he's pretty much the only party member with whom her interactions aren't cold. In either case, if she's brought back for the DLC adventures, he all but outright states that he's missed her and is clearly happy to have her there.]] There's a lot of affection in their interactions, and his dialogue in ''Inquisition'' indicates that he writes to her frequently.

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** A very sweet ShipTease exists between her and ''Varric'', of all people. people; their relationship is examined in detail on the Heartwarming page. He sometimes calls her "Milady" or "Milady "Milady,” “Milady Sunshine," or “my Sunshine,” which makes her giggle, and he has a number of party banter lines in which he compliments her beauty. She's also the only party member to whom he is absolutely never snarky. [[spoiler:He expresses regret for her fate if she joins the Circle, and if she dies in the Deep Roads, he laments her loss and swears vengeance against Bartrand for causing it; if she becomes a Warden, he's pretty much the only party member with whom her interactions aren't cold. In either case, if she's brought back for the DLC adventures, he all but outright states that he's missed her and is clearly happy to have her there.]] There's a lot of affection in their interactions, and his dialogue in ''Inquisition'' indicates that he writes to her frequently.
27th Feb '18 1:31:55 PM XFllo
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* JerkWithAHeartOfGold:
** He is rather abrasive due to his inferiority complex, but when it comes down to it, he cares for his friends and family.
** It's shown particularly when he tells Fenris off and says he'll have to go through him if he's got a problem with Mage Hawke, and most of all at the end if he's [[spoiler:a Templar when he effectively tells Meredith to shove it.]]
* JerkassFacade: A lot of Carver's more anti-mage moments seems to be less him actually being a bigot and more him trying to get a reaction out of their older sibling. [[spoiler: If Carver is a Warden during the finale and Hawke chooses to side with the Templars, Carver is actually horrified that Hawke didn't side with mages.]]

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* JerkWithAHeartOfGold:
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JerkWithAHeartOfGold: He is rather abrasive due to his inferiority complex, but when it comes down to it, he cares for his friends and family.
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family. It's shown particularly when he tells Fenris off and says he'll have to go through him if he's got a problem with Mage Hawke, and most of all at the end if he's [[spoiler:a Templar when he effectively tells Meredith to shove it.]]
* JerkassFacade: A lot of Carver's more anti-mage moments seems to be less him actually being a bigot and more him trying to get a reaction out of their older sibling. [[spoiler: If Carver is a Warden during the finale and Hawke chooses to side with the Templars, Carver is actually horrified that Hawke didn't side with mages.
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