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* ShoutOut: He's a blend on numerous famous philosophers, from Diogenes - living in a barrel and carrying around an unlit lantern in search of "an honest man" to Archimedes - persecuted for his cosmological theories.
* StepfordSmiler: ''Small Gods'' hints at this, as Didactylos generally has an optimistic approach to life, and is unafraid to call out or {{Troll}} authority figures in his own irascable way. However, he's well aware of the harshness of life, in particular the myriad ways his fellow men can be cruel to each other, and his voice loses all sense of humour when he recounts a time when he saw a crowd of Omnians stone a man to death:

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* ShoutOut: He's a blend on numerous famous philosophers, from Diogenes - living (living in a barrel and carrying around an unlit lantern in search of "an honest man" man") to Archimedes - persecuted (persecuted for his cosmological theories.
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* StepfordSmiler: ''Small Gods'' hints at this, as Didactylos generally has an optimistic approach to life, and is unafraid to call out or to {{Troll}} authority figures in his own irascable irascible way. However, he's well aware of the harshness of life, in particular the myriad ways his fellow men can be cruel to each other, and his voice loses all sense of humour when he recounts a time when he saw a crowd of Omnians stone a man to death:

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The son of the renegade wizard Ipslore the Red, Coin is in fact Ipslore's eighth son -- and since Ipslore was the eighth son of an eighth son, this made Coin a sourcerer. Unlike wizards, who draw on the magic around them, Coin generates his own power, making him an obscenely powerful magic-user. Raised by his father's spirit bound to his staff, Coin takes over Unseen University to elevate wizards to their rightful place in the world (as seen by Ipslore), setting up the plot of ''Literature/{{Sourcery}}''

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The son of the renegade wizard Ipslore the Red, Coin is in fact Ipslore's eighth son -- and since Ipslore was the eighth son of an eighth son, this made Coin a sourcerer. Unlike wizards, who draw on the magic around them, Coin generates his own power, making him an obscenely powerful magic-user. Raised by his father's spirit bound to his staff, Coin takes over Unseen University to elevate wizards to their rightful place in the world (as seen by Ipslore), setting up the plot of ''Literature/{{Sourcery}}''''Literature/{{Sourcery}}''.



* DoesNotKnowHisOwnStrength: Once he's free of his father's influence, when he laments to the Librarian that he still can't help warping reality for his own convenience. This leads the Librarian to advise him, "Ook"[[note]]Roughly, "So create a world where you won't."[[/note]].

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* DoesNotKnowHisOwnStrength: Once he's free of his father's influence, when he laments to the Librarian that he still can't help warping reality for his own convenience. This leads the Librarian to advise him, "Ook"[[note]]Roughly, "Ook."[[note]]Roughly, "So create a world where you won't."[[/note]]."[[/note]]



* NeverLearnedToRead: Though due to his photographic memory he can replicate a book from the memory of its' appearance without understanding the words on it.

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* NeverLearnedToRead: Though due to his photographic memory he can replicate a book from the memory of its' its appearance without understanding the words on it.



* TheGoodKing: He tries, somewhat ineffectually, to be a good reformist King. Unfortunately, the very nature of Djelibeybi resists change until the titular pyramids are destroyed, most of the common people aren't entirely comfortable with Teppic's attempts to Take An Interest and Set Them At Their Ease, and everyone's too scared of/too used to listening to Dios' "interpretations" of royal proclamations that nothing he says really sinks in. He is also utterly determined to get back into Djelibeybi after it vanishes to save it, even though he hates the place, out of a sense of duty.

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* TheGoodKing: He tries, somewhat ineffectually, to be a good reformist King. Unfortunately, the very nature of Djelibeybi resists change until the titular pyramids are destroyed, most of the common people aren't entirely comfortable with Teppic's attempts to Take An Interest and Set Them At Their Ease, and everyone's too so scared of/too of/so used to listening to Dios' "interpretations" of royal proclamations that nothing he says really sinks in. He is also utterly determined to get back into Djelibeybi after it vanishes to save it, even though he hates the place, out of a sense of duty.



* StrangerInAFamiliarLand: His now thoroughly Morporkian attitudes end up in a CultureClash with those of the Old Kingdom. While some Djel traits linger, he finds them increasingly absurd, and as he points out on more than one occasion, while he started in Djelibeybi he now really comes from Ankh-Morpork. As a result, he's quite relieved to find a SpareToTheThrone.

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* StrangerInAFamiliarLand: The TropeNamer. His now thoroughly Morporkian attitudes end up in a CultureClash with those of the Old Kingdom. While some Djel traits linger, he finds them increasingly absurd, and as he points out on more than one occasion, while he started in Djelibeybi he now really comes from Ankh-Morpork. As a result, he's quite relieved to find a SpareToTheThrone.



* TheMindIsAPlaythingOfTheBody: Initially she assumes she can just get the body she pilots to do what it's told. Turns out the body has slightly more veto power than she presumed. It eats, breaths and sleeps when it damn well wants to.

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* TheMindIsAPlaythingOfTheBody: Initially she assumes she can just get the body she pilots to do what it's told. Turns out the body has slightly more veto power than she presumed. It eats, breaths breathes and sleeps when it damn well wants to.



* MundaneUtility: He's been using his powers to make milk, and keep it cool.

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* MundaneUtility: He's been using his powers to make milk, get milk from times past and animals long extinct, and keep it cool.



* WeUsedToBeFriends: Split up with the other Horsemen over "creative differences" (mention was made of fights over who was getting enough credit, damages to hotel rooms...) He's still hurt about it, but keeps up on what the old gang are doing.

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* WeUsedToBeFriends: Split up with the other Horsemen over "creative differences" (mention was made of fights over who was getting enough credit, damages to hotel rooms...) ). He's still hurt about it, but keeps up on what the old gang are doing.



* [[AFatherToHisMen A Mother to Her Girls]]: [[spoiler:The epilogue shows her as a [[SergeantRock sergeant]] in the Borogravian army, displaying much the same tough-but-fair demeanour to the new recruits as Jackrum before her.]]



* [[AFatherToHisMen A Mother to Her Girls]]: [[spoiler:The epilogue shows her as a [[SergeantRock sergeant]] in the Borogravian army, displaying much the same tough-but-fair demeanour to the new recruits as Jackrum before her.]]



** Though the end of the book implies that she's becoming something of a sequel to Jackrum, who spends much of the book as her StealthMentor. She may not be quite as ''physically'' badass just yet, but on the other hand she's a quick-thinker, adept at picking up Jackrum's methods, and has picked up one or two tricks about fighting a modern war....

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** Though the end of the book implies that she's becoming something of a sequel successor to Jackrum, who spends much of the book as her StealthMentor. She may not be quite as ''physically'' badass just yet, but on the other hand she's a quick-thinker, adept at picking up Jackrum's methods, and has picked up one or two tricks about fighting a modern war....



* OldSoldier: Has grandchildren and a middle-aged son, has been in the army for anywhere between 50 and 60 years (even Jackrum isn't actually sure how old he is) and is still probably the most feared hand-to-hand combatant in the region. Unusually, the downsides of this, such as being set in his ways and disdaining modern innovations such as camouflage as spying are noted throughout the book and at the end, he recognises this and decides it's his time to bow out gracefully.

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* OldSoldier: Has grandchildren and a middle-aged son, has been in the army for anywhere between 50 and 60 years (even Jackrum isn't actually sure how old he is) and is still probably the most feared hand-to-hand combatant in the region. Unusually, the downsides of this, this such as being set in his ways and disdaining modern innovations such as camouflage as spying are noted throughout the book book, and at the end, he recognises this and decides it's his time to bow out gracefully.



* SomeoneToRememberHimBy: [[spoiler:She gave birth to a son, William Junior, a few months after her boyfriend was killed at Sepple. She left him with her grandmother and he grew up to be a respected armorer.]]



* SomeoneToRememberHimBy: [[spoiler:She gave birth to a son, William Junior, a few months after her boyfriend was killed at Sepple. She left him with her grandmother and he grew up to be a respected armorer.]]



* {{Expy}}: At first glance, and indeed at second glance, he can come across as one for [[Literature/MovingPictures Gaspode the Wonder Dog]]; Maurice's OriginStory is similar to Gaspode's second origin (normal stray animals made intelligent from exposure to magical garbage), they're both, on the whole, smarter than the humans they hang out with and use similar tactics in manipulating said humans, and they are both ''masters'' of [[DeadpanSnarker snide and sarcastic comments]]. As the story goes on, however, it turns out that despite similar set-ups and many shared personality traits, the two animals are actually very different when it comes down to it -- where Gaspode is ultimately a pessimist who loves to wallow in self-pity and set himself up as a tragic hero, Maurice has a more positive outlook on life and is a lot more unashamedly a self-centered JerkWithAHeartOfGold.

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* {{Expy}}: At first glance, and indeed at second glance, he can come across as one for [[Literature/MovingPictures Gaspode the Wonder Dog]]; Maurice's OriginStory {{Backstory}} is similar to Gaspode's second origin (normal stray animals made intelligent from exposure to magical garbage), they're both, on the whole, smarter than the humans they hang out with and use similar tactics in manipulating said humans, and they are both ''masters'' of [[DeadpanSnarker snide and sarcastic comments]]. As the story goes on, however, it turns out that despite similar set-ups and many shared personality traits, the two animals are actually very different when it comes down to it -- where Gaspode is ultimately a pessimist who loves to wallow in self-pity and set himself up as a tragic hero, Maurice has a more positive outlook on life and is a lot more unashamedly a self-centered JerkWithAHeartOfGold.



* BigBadWannabe: He's not the BigBad of ''The Last Hero'', he's not even a threat, and a description of his career provides illumination: He's ''crap'' at being a threat. He is to villainy as Dibbler is to free enterprise. When he was young, he started with Shed of Doom and just a badly tempered donkey as his Evil Steed. He grew to managing dungeons, cursed temples and Doom Pits (profiting until the third act, when the hero beats him while he escapes to try another day).

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* BigBadWannabe: He's not the BigBad of ''The Last Hero'', he's not even a threat, and a description of his career provides illumination: He's ''crap'' at being a threat. He is to villainy as Dibbler is to free enterprise. When he was young, he started with a Shed of Doom and just a badly tempered donkey as his Evil Steed. He grew to managing dungeons, cursed temples and Doom Pits (profiting until the third act, when the hero beats him while he escapes to try another day).



* GenreSavvy: He knows what the role of a ''proper'' Dread Lord is, and follows it willingly, even when it bites him in the arse, such as hiring idiotic henchmen, having his minions wear outfits that easily disguise heroes, and getting jailers who make breaking out of cells a dawdle.

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* GenreSavvy: He knows what the role of a ''proper'' Dread Lord is, and follows it willingly, even when it bites him in the arse, such as hiring idiotic henchmen, having his minions wear outfits that easily disguise heroes, and getting jailers who make breaking out of cells a dawdle.doddle.



* TurnOutLikeHisFather: Apparently, his mother was afraid he would, as she forbade him from playing football. "Turn out" in this case meaning "killed whilst playing football"

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* TurnOutLikeHisFather: Apparently, his mother was afraid he would, as she forbade him from playing football. "Turn out" in this case meaning "killed whilst playing football"football", which was historically much likelier before Vetinari's reform.
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* BlindSeer: Played with. He seems able to walk around easily enough in his home city despite his blindness, even moving around with more ease than [[spoiler:the invading Omnian troops]], but that's more due to years of knowing the feel and the layout of the stone steps. Outside his home, he's as reliant on others as anyone else would in his situation.


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* StepfordSmiler: ''Small Gods'' hints at this, as Didactylos generally has an optimistic approach to life, and is unafraid to call out or {{Troll}} authority figures in his own irascable way. However, he's well aware of the harshness of life, in particular the myriad ways his fellow men can be cruel to each other, and his voice loses all sense of humour when he recounts a time when he saw a crowd of Omnians stone a man to death:
--> '''Didactylos:''' "All I know is, it was a horrible sight."\\
'''Brutha:''' "The state of the body is-"\\
'''Didactylos:''' "Oh, I'm not talking about the poor bugger in the pit. I'm talking about the people throwing the stones. They were sure all right. They were sure it wasn't them in the pit. You could see it in their faces. So glad it wasn't them that they were throwing as hard as they could."
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* MysticalWhiteHair: When she appears in ''I Shall Wear Midnight'', her hair has gone pure white, even though she doesn't look that old. It almost certainly has something to do with her magic or time travelling abilities.
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* CunningLinguist: He's casually multi-lingual, thanks to an Assassin's Guild education.

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* CunningLinguist: He's casually multi-lingual, thanks to an Assassin's Guild education. However, the marks for at least ''some'' of those languages are safely buried in the guild's vaults, much to his relief.
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[[folder: Didactylos]]
An ill-tempered Ephebian philsopher that appeared in ''Small Gods'' and is referenced in several other books.
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* MathematiciansAnswer: His theory on the origins on life is technically correct, but fails to actually address the point.
--> '''Didactylos:''' "Things just happened, what the hell?"
* MeaningfulName: Didactylos is a multi-level pun. Literally it means two fingers, and is a reference to the British V sign that's used to indicate defiance to authority, contempt, or derision, and the word didactic, which means to teach in a condescending way, all of which well encapsulate Didactylos' personality.
* ShoutOut: He's a blend on numerous famous philosophers, from Diogenes - living in a barrel and carrying around an unlit lantern in search of "an honest man" to Archimedes - persecuted for his cosmological theories.

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[[folder:Ronnie Soak]]

A milkman in Ankh-Morpork who has the uncanny ability to always deliver his wares at the exact same time for ''everywhere''.

In fact, Ronnie is actually [[spoiler:Kaos, the ''Fifth'' Horseman, who quit before they were famous.]]

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[[folder:Ronnie Soak]]

A milkman in Ankh-Morpork
[[folder:Myria [=LeJean=]]]

An Auditor of Reality
who has the uncanny ability incarnates in a human body to always deliver his wares at the exact same time for ''everywhere''.

In fact, Ronnie is actually [[spoiler:Kaos, the ''Fifth'' Horseman, who quit before they were famous.]]
assist their plan to destroy Time, only to find certain complications in that plan.


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* AGoodWayToDie: [[spoiler:Eventually decides that she's unable to take humanity, and commits suicide by diving in a vat of chocolate. While Death and Kaos think it's a waste, they do concede it's an impressive way to go.]]
* HumanityEnsues: A consequence of spending too much time as a human, humanity begins to follow, with all the benefits and drawbacks. [[spoiler:She commits suicide, but finds she's become human enough to gain a soul.]]
* MeaningfulRename: Susan renames her "Unity".
* TheMindIsAPlaythingOfTheBody: Initially she assumes she can just get the body she pilots to do what it's told. Turns out the body has slightly more veto power than she presumed. It eats, breaths and sleeps when it damn well wants to.
* RogueDrone: It doesn't take her very long to start developing as an individual, and turn on her fellow Auditors.
* SenseFreak: Auditors have all manner of senses, but taste isn't one of them. Even the mildest substances, like toast, are enough to knock her for a loop.
* SpannerInTheWorks: [[spoiler:Coming to the conclusion that the glass clock is wrong, she begins covertly sabotaging it as best she can.]]
* UncannyValley: A consequence of her body being made to order by the Auditors, who create her to be beautiful... then start removing imperfections, giving her an unsettling and clearly inhuman appearance which creeps the hell out of an Igor.

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[[folder:Ronnie Soak]]

A milkman in Ankh-Morpork who has the uncanny ability to always deliver his wares at the exact same time for ''everywhere''.

In fact, Ronnie is actually [[spoiler:Kaos, the ''Fifth'' Horseman, who quit before they were famous.]]
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%%* [[AFatherToHisMen A Mother to Her Girls]]: [[spoiler:Becomes this, if the epilogue is anything to go by]].

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%%* * [[AFatherToHisMen A Mother to Her Girls]]: [[spoiler:Becomes this, if the [[spoiler:The epilogue is anything shows her as a [[SergeantRock sergeant]] in the Borogravian army, displaying much the same tough-but-fair demeanour to go by]].the new recruits as Jackrum before her.]]
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* [[spoiler:[[AFatherToHisMen A Mother to Her Girls]]]]: Becomes this, if the epilogue is anything to go by.

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* [[spoiler:[[AFatherToHisMen %%* [[AFatherToHisMen A Mother to Her Girls]]]]: Becomes Girls]]: [[spoiler:Becomes this, if the epilogue is anything to go by.by]].
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** DefusingTheTykebomb: ... but starts to change after encountering Rincewind, being intrigued by the way that Rincewind (who's no threat to him in any way, shape, or form) challenges him not with any great magical spells or artefacts, but with half a brick in a sock.

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** DefusingTheTykebomb: ... but starts to change after encountering Rincewind, being intrigued by the way that Rincewind (who's no threat to him in any way, shape, or form) challenges him not with any great magical spells or artefacts, but with half a brick in a sock. His father Ipslore insisting that Coin kill Rincewind despite him representing no threat is the point Coin loses all respect and fear of Ipslore.
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* BigBadWannabe: He's not the BigBad of ''The Last Hero'', he's not even a threat, and a description of his career provides illumination: He's ''crap'' at being a threat. He is to villainy as Dibbler is to free enterprise.

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* BigBadWannabe: He's not the BigBad of ''The Last Hero'', he's not even a threat, and a description of his career provides illumination: He's ''crap'' at being a threat. He is to villainy as Dibbler is to free enterprise. When he was young, he started with Shed of Doom and just a badly tempered donkey as his Evil Steed. He grew to managing dungeons, cursed temples and Doom Pits (profiting until the third act, when the hero beats him while he escapes to try another day).

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** It's more than hinted that she got this character trait from her own mother, and part of her CharacterDevelopment is to overcome this part of herself.

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** It's more than hinted that she got this character trait from her own mother, mother (Vetinari notes it's a trait passed down through families, and usually in the female line), and part of her CharacterDevelopment is to overcome this part of herself.



* BenevolentBoss: He's noted as being a decent boss -- while he doesn't do much in the way of actual work, but he's kind to his subordinates, who, truthfully, probably need kindness more than supervision.
* BigBrotherInstinct: He's very protective of Nutt, even going out of his way to teach him elocution at the start of the book. Glenda is initially baffled by this, since Nutt is [[SesquipedalianLoquaciousness very well-spoken]] and Trev has the vocabulary and diction of a working class ex-street kid, then realises that Trev's actually doing it to protect Nutt from those who might react badly to a posh accent and long words -- something shown to be a warranted fear.
* BookDumb: Not learned or intellectual, but he's fairly intelligent, has a good amount of street smarts, and has picked up surprising random facts.

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* BenevolentBoss: He's noted as being a decent boss -- while he doesn't do much in the way of actual work, but he's kind to his subordinates, who, truthfully, probably need kindness more than supervision.
supervision, and he's a big brother figure to Nutt, who sorely needs one.
* BigBrotherInstinct: He's very protective of Nutt, even going out of his way to teach him elocution at the start of the book. Glenda is initially baffled by this, since Nutt is [[SesquipedalianLoquaciousness very well-spoken]] and Trev has the vocabulary and diction of a working class ex-street kid, then realises that Trev's actually doing it to protect ''protect'' Nutt from those who might react badly to a posh accent and long words -- something shown to be a warranted fear.
* BookDumb: Not learned or intellectual, but he's fairly intelligent, has a good amount of street smarts, is a shrewd reader of people, and has picked up surprising random facts.



* TheMentor: To Nutt, taking over from Lady Margalotta, of all people - she taught Nutt how to be more than he was, encouraging him to explore and learn academically and technically, while Trev teaches him how to navigate the real world.



* SmarterThanYouLook: He's a good deal more intelligent than he seems, especially in terms of street smarts and reading people (though considering that he's spent a fair amount of time around Andy, this is probably a matter of survival).

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* SmarterThanYouLook: He's As is established very early on when Glenda thinks through his elocution lessons for Nutt, Trev is a good deal more intelligent than he seems, especially in terms of street smarts and reading people (though considering that he's spent a fair amount of time around Andy, this is probably a matter of survival).
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Azrael is one of the Old High Ones of the Universe, he's possibly ''the'' Universe itself. He is the Death of the Universe, Death of the Discworld is merely an aspect of himself as are all lesser deaths. He's only appeared in one book ''Reaper Men''.

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Azrael is one of the Old High Ones of the Universe, he's possibly ''the'' Universe itself. He is the Death of the Universe, Death of the Discworld is merely an aspect of himself as are all lesser deaths. He's only appeared in one book book, ''Reaper Men''.
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* ImmortalityImmaturity: Just a bit human in his actions. Lu-Tze, long used to handling these sorts of personalities, gets him into a massive strunt when he figures out his identity.

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* ImmortalityImmaturity: ImmortalImmaturity: Just a bit human in his actions. Lu-Tze, long used to handling these sorts of personalities, gets him into a massive strunt when he figures out his identity.

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* HorsemenOfTheApocalypse: Well, he didn't get a horse. He got a chariot. And he quit the band long ago, before they hit the big time.

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* HorsemenOfTheApocalypse: Well, he didn't just get a horse. He got a chariot. And he quit the band long ago, before they hit the big time.time.
* ImmortalityImmaturity: Just a bit human in his actions. Lu-Tze, long used to handling these sorts of personalities, gets him into a massive strunt when he figures out his identity.
* InsistentTerminology: He's not an "anthropomorphic personification", thank you. He's an ''avatar''.



* SdrawkcabName: Soak is just his actual name backwards.

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* TheOlderImmortal: He came first, before even Death himself, because death requires life, and Ronnie was there before all that started.
* SdrawkcabName: Soak is just his actual name backwards. Lu-Tze thinks this is the sort of arrogant stupidity of a god (or vampire) who honestly, genuinely thinks this will fool people.

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[[folder:Lobsang Ludd]]

A foundling raised in the Guild of Thieves until a chance meeting with a history monk resulted in him being wiped from the Guild's collective memory and taken to be trained in the mountains in abilities he was only barely aware he had. However, Lobsang is apparently "a smart boy" and there's no teaching a smart boy. Compared to other characters in ''Literature/ThiefOfTime'' (and Pratchett characters in general), Lobsang is rather a blank slate. Of course then you discover that [[spoiler:he's actually half of a whole person who is also the son of the personification of time and ends up ''becoming'' Time itself in the end]], and suddenly he doesn't seem quite so standardised any more.

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[[folder:Lobsang Ludd]]

[[folder:Ronnie Soak]]

A foundling raised milkman in Ankh-Morpork who has the Guild of Thieves until a chance meeting with a history monk resulted in him being wiped from uncanny ability to always deliver his wares at the Guild's collective memory and taken to be trained in the mountains in abilities he was only barely aware he had. However, Lobsang exact same time for ''everywhere''.

In fact, Ronnie
is apparently "a smart boy" and there's no teaching a smart boy. Compared to other characters in ''Literature/ThiefOfTime'' (and Pratchett characters in general), Lobsang is rather a blank slate. Of course then you discover that [[spoiler:he's actually half of a whole person [[spoiler:Kaos, the ''Fifth'' Horseman, who is also the son of the personification of time and ends up ''becoming'' Time itself in the end]], and suddenly he doesn't seem quite so standardised any more. quit before they were famous.]]




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* BlackEyesOfEvil: When he gets serious, his eyes turn completely black.
* HorsemenOfTheApocalypse: Well, he didn't get a horse. He got a chariot. And he quit the band long ago, before they hit the big time.
* MundaneUtility: He's been using his powers to make milk, and keep it cool.
* SdrawkcabName: Soak is just his actual name backwards.
* {{Unperson}}: Edited out of the holy books of Omniasm that actually mention him, helped by the fact the guy who wrote down his one appearance being a bit of a weirdie (and the paragraph immediately following Kaos's appearance has the MushroomSamba ''really'' kick in), allowing the next edition to make some "creative translations" when it came time to revise.
* WeUsedToBeFriends: Split up with the other Horsemen over "creative differences" (mention was made of fights over who was getting enough credit, damages to hotel rooms...) He's still hurt about it, but keeps up on what the old gang are doing.

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[[folder:Lobsang Ludd]]

A foundling raised in the Guild of Thieves until a chance meeting with a history monk resulted in him being wiped from the Guild's collective memory and taken to be trained in the mountains in abilities he was only barely aware he had. However, Lobsang is apparently "a smart boy" and there's no teaching a smart boy. Compared to other characters in ''Literature/ThiefOfTime'' (and Pratchett characters in general), Lobsang is rather a blank slate. Of course then you discover that [[spoiler:he's actually half of a whole person who is also the son of the personification of time and ends up ''becoming'' Time itself in the end]], and suddenly he doesn't seem quite so standardised any more.
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* ImpossibleThief: Uses his time-splicing abilities to commit thefts without being seen.



* SplitAtBirth: [[spoiler:Him and Jeremy Clockson, a socially inept and supersane (which is just as bad as being crazy) individual, are the same person, born twice because their/his/whatever mother freaked out a little bit during childbirth, and when Time herself freaks out ''strange'' things tend to happen. It comes out to the same thing in the end, and after they merge, the result is more Lobsang with more depth than a true composite -- this being explained InUniverse as being because Jeremy had a pretty miserable life.]]



* SplitAtBirth: [[spoiler:Him and Jeremy Clockson, a socially inept and supersane (which is just as bad as being crazy) individual, are the same person, born twice because their/his/whatever mother freaked out a little bit during childbirth, and when Time herself freaks out ''strange'' things tend to happen. It comes out to the same thing in the end, and after they merge, the result is more Lobsang with more depth than a true composite -- this being explained InUniverse as being because Jeremy had a pretty miserable life.]]

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* SplitAtBirth: [[spoiler:Him and Jeremy Clockson, a socially inept and supersane (which is just as bad as being crazy) individual, are the same person, born twice because their/his/whatever mother freaked out a little bit during childbirth, and when Time herself freaks out ''strange'' things tend TomatoInTheMirror: He's quite alarmed to happen. It comes out to the same thing in the end, and after they merge, the result is more Lobsang with more depth than a true composite -- this being explained InUniverse as being because Jeremy had a pretty miserable life.]]discover he's not exactly human.
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* BrainlessBeauty: Though she eventually learns to make a decent pie.

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* BrainlessBeauty: Though she eventually learns to make a decent pie. Also played with--Glenda eventually realizes that she's spent their entire friendship swooping in and taking over whenever Juliet struggles with something even a little bit, and maybe Juliet wouldn't be ''quite'' so brainless if she got to handle things on her own more often. (Juliet's still definitely not the sharpest knife in the drawer, though.)

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* AchievementsInIgnorance: Before her formal training, she (mostly through her staff) performs some pretty impressive tricks, like turning ale into milk, and then milk into apple brandy.

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* AchievementsInIgnorance: Before her formal training, she (mostly through her staff) performs some pretty impressive tricks, like turning ale into milk, and then milk into apple brandy.brandy, mainly because she didn't know she ''couldn't''.



* BodySurf: She learns how to Borrow animals from Granny Weatherwax, but discovers the hard way that if she stays in one body too long, she can't return to her body, the animal's mind starts to reassert itself and she eventually [[NightmareFuel forgets that she's a girl]].

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* BodySurf: She learns how to Borrow animals from Granny Weatherwax, but discovers the hard way that if she stays in one body too long, she can't return to her body, the animal's mind starts to reassert itself and she eventually [[NightmareFuel forgets that she's a girl]].girl.
* BreakingTheGlassCeiling: She tries, but judging by later books it didn't really take. The Unseen University remains staunchly male-dominated and chauvinistic.



* TheSmartGuy: Long before Ponder Stibbons, there was this guy. He's so smart there aren't words for the things he describes, because they haven't been invented yet, or because they're things that can't be put in words. Even wizards, who look down on discover as a gross discourtesy and something that Shouldn't Be Done, are amazed and impressed by him, even if they have no idea what the hell he's talking about.

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* TheSmartGuy: Long before Ponder Stibbons, there was this guy. He's so smart there aren't words for the things he describes, because they haven't been invented yet, or because they're things that can't be put in words. Even wizards, who look down on discover discovery as a gross discourtesy and something that Shouldn't Be Done, are amazed and impressed by him, even if they have no idea what the hell he's talking about.



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* MissingMom: She went for a late night swim in "what turned out to be a crocodile".



* TryToFitThatOnABusinessCard: As pharaoh, he has an incredibly long list of titles which Dios insists be read out in full every time his name is given.



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* VitriolicBestBuds: Eventually evolves in to this with Rincewind along with Nigel, openly snarking about his lack of ability as a wizard but still being concerned enough for him that the first thing she does after the apocralypse is averted is try to find him. This forces Coin to erase her memories of their adventure once she asks too many questions about what happened to him.


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* NiceJobBreakingItHero: In his bid to ensure that everyone on the Disc forget the events of ''Sourcery'', he winds up reflexively erasing the memories of Conina and Nijel, the two people on the Disc who had the means and cared enough about Rincewind to try and find him. This winds up being the tipping point that convinces him to leave the Disc entirely, no longer believing he'd be able to stay without his sourcery inevitably destroying it.
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* AsskickingEqualsAuthority: Becomes Archchancellor by ''incinerating'' his rivals.

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* AsskickingEqualsAuthority: AsskickingLeadsToLeadership: Becomes Archchancellor by ''incinerating'' his rivals.

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* TheGoodKing: He tries, somewhat ineffectually, to be a good reformist King. Unfortunately, the very nature of Djelibeybi resists change until the titular pyramids are destroyed, most of the common people aren't entirely comfortable with Teppic's attempts to Take An Interest and Set Them At Their Ease, and everyone's too scared of/too used to listening to Dios' 'interpretations' of royal proclamations that nothing he sees really sinks in. He is also utterly determined to get back into Djelibeybi after it vanishes to save it, even though he hates the place, out of a sense of duty.

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* TheGoodKing: He tries, somewhat ineffectually, to be a good reformist King. Unfortunately, the very nature of Djelibeybi resists change until the titular pyramids are destroyed, most of the common people aren't entirely comfortable with Teppic's attempts to Take An Interest and Set Them At Their Ease, and everyone's too scared of/too used to listening to Dios' 'interpretations' "interpretations" of royal proclamations that nothing he sees says really sinks in. He is also utterly determined to get back into Djelibeybi after it vanishes to save it, even though he hates the place, out of a sense of duty.



* NiceGuy: For a fully-trained assassin, he's very good-natured (and somewhat squeamish), and genuinely wants to be TheGoodKing (though he's not particularly happy about being King in the first place).



* ThouShaltNotKill: He can't bring himself to kill the presumed victim in the final exam of the Assassin's Guild (but his attempt to fail with flair ends up as a trick shot which pierces what turns out to be a dummy), and while he's a capable fighter, he's rather opposed to killing. Ironically, he ends up with what is probably the highest kill count in the series, taking out approximately 1300 undead ancestors [[MercyKill (to their great relief)]] and an entire pantheon of gods.
* NiceGuy: For a fully trained assassin, he's very good-natured (and somewhat squeamish), and genuinely wants to be TheGoodKing (though he's not particularly happy about being King in the first place.

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* ThouShaltNotKill: He can't bring himself to kill the presumed victim in the final exam of the Assassin's Guild (but his attempt to fail with flair ends up as a trick shot which pierces what turns out to be a dummy), and while he's a capable fighter, he's rather opposed to killing. Ironically, he ends up with what is probably the highest kill count in the series, taking out approximately 1300 1,300 undead ancestors [[MercyKill (to their great relief)]] and an entire pantheon of gods.
* NiceGuy: For a fully trained assassin, he's very good-natured (and somewhat squeamish), and genuinely wants to be TheGoodKing (though he's not particularly happy about being King in the first place.
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Dark Skinned Blond is no longer a trope


* DarkSkinnedBlonde: Either she's deeply tanned or naturally dusky.
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* PragmaticHero: Like Vimes, he's zealously dedicated to the pursuit of justice. Unlike him, however, he doesn't follow ThouShaltNotKill rule and is willing to break SacredHospitality. See also ShadowArchetype below.

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* PragmaticHero: Like Vimes, he's zealously dedicated to the pursuit of justice. Unlike him, however, he doesn't follow ThouShaltNotKill rule and is willing to break SacredHospitality. See also ShadowArchetype below. [[spoiler:While he broke his peoples' tradition of sacred hospitality by killing a man before the crucial three days were up, Ahmed observes that he waited until he was satisfied that the other man had committed the crime of poisoning a well and basically rendering the area around said well uninhabitable, and also observed that he was satisfied that the other man would have killed ''him'' if he didn't kill the other man first]].
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* GoodAllAlong: At first he seems to be a criminal who killed prince Khufurah and who proceeded to kidnap Angua through trickery. Then he's revealed to be a Klatchian head copper who actually saved the prince and whose actions were to lure Vimes into desert to stop prince Cadram, the true culprit.
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* MajoredInWesternHypocrisy: He went to the Assassins' Guild school, basically a posh British-style boarding school "with all the knobs turned UpToEleven, especially the one marked 'violence'", which takes a lot of international students. As he dryly observes, after seven years at a school for young gentlemen, life among the [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy D'regs]] held no fears for him. Vimes is surprised despite himself when Ahmed mentions it. The thickly-accented Morporkian that Ahmed spoke when first introduced turns out to be just part of his act.

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* MajoredInWesternHypocrisy: He went to the Assassins' Guild school, basically a posh British-style boarding school "with all the knobs turned UpToEleven, up to eleven, especially the one marked 'violence'", which takes a lot of international students. As he dryly observes, after seven years at a school for young gentlemen, life among the [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy D'regs]] held no fears for him. Vimes is surprised despite himself when Ahmed mentions it. The thickly-accented Morporkian that Ahmed spoke when first introduced turns out to be just part of his act.
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* KnifeNut: He doesn't usually use weapons, but he's a dab hand with blades when needs be [[spoiler:as Andy finds out to his cost at the end of the book]].

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