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* OddReactionOut: Celestia during Chapter 3 reacts differently to the Robo Justice situation the entire time, being the least affected and ''somehow'' having the most knowledge of what's going on. She also appears in coincidence with her accomplice, Hifumi. This allows Makoto to realize she's the case's culprit most of all.

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* JerkWithAHeartOfJerk: She helps the students realize that Mondo is Chapter 2's culprit and returns Alter Ego to them following her murder under the belief that they can put their faith in it better than she did. Despite this, even as her only admirable actions, she is still a cold-hearted {{Jerkass}} and only did those things because they were necessary, not because she actually wanted to help.


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* JerkWithAHeartOfJerk: She helps the students realize that Mondo is Chapter 2's culprit and returns Alter Ego to them following her murder under the belief that they can put their faith in it better than she did. Despite this, even as her only admirable actions, she is still a cold-hearted {{Jerkass}} and only did those things because they were necessary, not because she actually wanted to help.
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* JerkWithAHeartOfJerk: She helps the students realize that Mondo is Chapter 2's culprit and returns Alter Ego to them following her murder under the belief that they can put their faith in it better than she did. Despite this, even as her only admirable actions, she is still a cold-hearted {{Jerkass}} and only did those things because they were necessary, not because she actually wanted to help.
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* BeautyIsBad: Celestia is an attractive ElegantGothicLolita who is also a {{Jerkass}} with identity issues, and eventually gave into her desires by ruthlessly killing two people during the Killing School Life, which ends up in her execution.
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* InformedAbility: Part of her Talent is her skilled Poker face, but not only did she drop her ever-present façade over something as minor as Hifumi not making her tea the way she liked it, but as the culprit in Chapter 3, her not-so-subtle insistence that Hiro must be the culprit and her stubbornness on pushing for this despite evidence to the contrary, even getting into an Argument Armament with Makoto over this before she's even outed as a suspect, and constantly opposing the other's theories as to what happened makes her appear very suspicious, and she begins to have a VillainousBreakdown once she's suspected and gets visibly panicked the more proof they stack against her, her only defense being she "earned the right to be a [[{{Understatement}} little]] on edge". Though in this case, it's unsurprising that her poker face is much more consistent when it's only being used for card games and not a genuine life-and-death situation where she's subjected to constant psychological torture.

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* InformedAbility: Part of her Talent is her skilled Poker face, but not only did she drop her ever-present façade over something as minor as Hifumi not making her tea the way she liked it, but as the culprit in Chapter 3, her not-so-subtle insistence that Hiro must be the culprit and her stubbornness on pushing for this despite evidence to the contrary, even getting into an Argument Armament a Bullet Time Battle with Makoto over this before she's even outed as a suspect, and constantly opposing the other's theories as to what happened makes her appear very suspicious, and she begins to have a VillainousBreakdown once she's suspected and gets visibly panicked the more proof they stack against her, her only defense being she "earned the right to be a [[{{Understatement}} little]] on edge". Though in this case, it's unsurprising that her poker face is much more consistent when it's only being used for card games and not a genuine life-and-death situation where she's subjected to constant psychological torture.
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** She purposes the additional "no leaving your room during nighttime" rule in an attempt to prevent any murders. Despite this, all of the murders end up taking place at night (Mukuro and Sakura did die during the day, but the former was technically killed for breaking the rules and the latter committed suicide).

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** She purposes proposes the additional "no leaving your room during nighttime" rule in an attempt to prevent any murders. Despite this, all of the murders end up taking place at night (Mukuro and Sakura did die during the day, but the former was technically killed for breaking the rules and the latter committed suicide).
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* IHatePastMe: To an extreme degree, with the manga showing it to be her primary motivation for adopting the Celestia Ludenburg persona and for wanting to become a renowned gambler and eventual castle-owning multi-millionaire. Everything about Taeko Yasuhiro is plain and powerless and even her ultimate talent is a passive one, so Celestia was created as a means of escapism from all that.

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* IHatePastMe: To an extreme degree, with the manga showing it to be her primary motivation for adopting the Celestia Ludenburg Ludenberg persona and for wanting to become a renowned gambler and eventual castle-owning multi-millionaire. Everything about Taeko Yasuhiro is plain and powerless and even her ultimate talent is a passive one, so Celestia was created as a means of escapism from all that.



* MeaningfulName: Her birthname is Taeko Yashuhiro, which she considers a loser’s name due to it being translated as peaceful or low, which she despises. Celestia Ludenburg (her new name) has connections to being high and above those.

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* MeaningfulName: Her birthname is Taeko Yashuhiro, which she considers a loser’s name due to it being translated as peaceful or low, which she despises. Celestia Ludenburg Ludenberg (her new name) has connections to being high and above those.



* {{Narcissist}}: She shows shades of it, though her seemingly-confirming statements at the end of her trial are difficult to take at face-value based on Makoto's narration that she may have been lying even then (the manga outright confirms this line of thinking - she loves everything about "Celestia Ludenburg", but hates "Taeko Yasuhiro", making her narcissism an elaborate cover for her self-loathing).

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* {{Narcissist}}: She shows shades of it, though her seemingly-confirming statements at the end of her trial are difficult to take at face-value based on Makoto's narration that she may have been lying even then (the manga outright confirms this line of thinking - she loves everything about "Celestia Ludenburg", Ludenberg", but hates "Taeko Yasuhiro", making her narcissism an elaborate cover for her self-loathing).



* TheSociopath: Downplayed. Although she fulfills most of the criteria, like LackOfEmpathy, her [[ConsummateLiar nonstop lying,]] and [[AmbitionIsEvil doing anything to get what she wants]], she'll lash out if [[BerserkButton someone asks too many questions about her name or past]]. Plus, a complete sociopath would come off as genuinely friendly, charming, and warm, whereas her attempts at acting as such come off as cold, and from the beginning, it's implied that [[NoSocialSkills she never had many friends.]] When you get down to it, you might even be able to say that ''Celestia Ludenburg'' is a sociopath, but ''Taeko Yasuhiro'' is not. Ultimately subverted as ''[[VideoGame/DanganronpaAnotherEpisodeUltraDespairGirls Ultra Despair Girls]]'' reveals Celeste does love Grand Bois Chéri (her cat); real life sociopaths cannot love anybody but themselves.

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* TheSociopath: Downplayed. Although she fulfills most of the criteria, like LackOfEmpathy, her [[ConsummateLiar nonstop lying,]] and [[AmbitionIsEvil doing anything to get what she wants]], she'll lash out if [[BerserkButton someone asks too many questions about her name or past]]. Plus, a complete sociopath would come off as genuinely friendly, charming, and warm, whereas her attempts at acting as such come off as cold, and from the beginning, it's implied that [[NoSocialSkills she never had many friends.]] When you get down to it, you might even be able to say that ''Celestia Ludenburg'' Ludenberg'' is a sociopath, but ''Taeko Yasuhiro'' is not. Ultimately subverted as ''[[VideoGame/DanganronpaAnotherEpisodeUltraDespairGirls Ultra Despair Girls]]'' reveals Celeste does love Grand Bois Chéri (her cat); real life sociopaths cannot love anybody but themselves.
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Also known as the "Queen of Liars," Celeste is renowned for her exemplary luck in games of chance. She's accumulated a sizable fortune by robbing blind anyone stupid enough to challenge her. She speaks softly and smiles often, but in a way that tends to creep out everyone around her. She also hides a surprisingly short temper and will start shouting (usually at [[ButtMonkey Hifumi]]) if she isn't pleased. She is the culprit of Chapter 3, tricking Hifumi into killing Kiyotaka before killing him herself and trying to frame Yasuhiro for it. She is exposed during the trial and executed by Monokuma, subjected to a faux "witch burning" that gets interrupted when Monokuma rams a fire truck into her.

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Also known as the "Queen of Liars," Celeste is renowned for her exemplary luck in games of chance. She's accumulated a sizable fortune by robbing blind anyone stupid enough to challenge her. She speaks softly and smiles often, but in a way that tends to creep out everyone around her. She also hides a surprisingly short temper and will start shouting (usually at [[ButtMonkey Hifumi]]) if she isn't pleased. She is the culprit of Chapter 3, tricking Hifumi into killing Kiyotaka before killing him herself and trying to frame Yasuhiro for it. She is exposed during the trial and executed by Monokuma, subjected to a faux "witch burning" "[[BurnTheWitch witch burning]]" that gets interrupted when Monokuma rams a fire truck into her.

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* InconsistentSpelling: Her last name, Ludenberg, is romanized as "Ludenberck" in Funimation subs in the anime.



* InconsistentSpelling: Her last name is sometimes romanized as Ludenberck or Rudenberk.
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** Her name 'Celestia'? It's also one of the names of a Rune God in Manga/MagicKnightRayearth (although said Rune God [[SpellMyNameWithAnS can also be spelled more commonly as 'Selece']], which is still pronounced like her nickname 'Celes'). [[Creator/HekiruShiina Celeste's voice actress]] also voiced the main protagonist there, Hikaru Shidou, except that she was using another Rune God and both Celeste and Hikaru differ so much like you wouldn't believe.

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** Her name 'Celestia'? It's also one of the names of a Rune God in Manga/MagicKnightRayearth (although said Rune God [[SpellMyNameWithAnS [[InconsistentSpelling can also be spelled more commonly as 'Selece']], which is still pronounced like her nickname 'Celes'). [[Creator/HekiruShiina Celeste's voice actress]] also voiced the main protagonist there, Hikaru Shidou, except that she was using another Rune God and both Celeste and Hikaru differ so much like you wouldn't believe.



* SpellMyNameWithAnS: Her last name is sometimes romanized as Ludenberck or Rudenberk.

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* MeaningfulName: Her birthname is Taeko Yashuhiro, which she considers a loser’s name due to it being translated as peaceful or low, which she despises. Celestia Ludenburg (her new name) has connections to being high and above those.
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* TheChessmaster: Downplayed. Unlike the other two culprits beforehand, Celestia's scheme revolves around manipulating whole events as a means to confuse the other students as to what happened throughout her crime, but unlike other examples of this character type, her plan has glaring flaws in it and ''doesn't'' help her succeed at the intended goal (in this case, escaping the academy).
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* BitchInSheepsClothing: PlayedWith. Celestia doesn't hide her contempt for her classmates, but she pretends that she still likes them regardless and wouldn't fall prey to her basest desires for murder, ''including'' trying to prevent nighttime murders. Along with that, she ''also'' hid the fact she would sell them out for her selfish lust for money, and also that she was desperate to leave the academy, pretending to wax about the idea of adapting to one's environment to hide the fact.
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* FreudianSlip: After everyone discover Hifumi's body missing, Celeste acts like she's hit a DespairEventHorizon and says that "we're are going to die, just like those guys". However, as Byakuya points out in the trial, her use of the words "those guys" is odd since no one told her that Taka was dead yet, so she should have only known that Hifumi was dead (which was actually part of her plan - other students finding Taka's body at the same time she found Hifumi meant that each group would assume the corpse discovery announcement was for the body they found). Plus, her use of the word "guys" was also suspicious since even if she did know have a valid reason to believe there were two victims, Kyoko was also missing at that time, so she had no way to know the second victim was a boy.

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* FreudianSlip: After everyone discover discovers Hifumi's body is missing, Celeste acts like she's hit a DespairEventHorizon and says that "we're are going to die, just like those guys". However, as Byakuya points out in the trial, her use of the words "those guys" is odd since no one told her that Taka was dead yet, so she should have only known that Hifumi was dead (which was actually part of her plan - other students finding Taka's body at the same time she found Hifumi meant that each group would assume the corpse discovery announcement was for the body they found). Plus, her use of the word "guys" was also suspicious since even if she did know have a valid reason to believe there were two victims, Kyoko was also missing at that time, so she had no way to know the second victim was a boy.
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* NiceJobFixingItVillain: Overcomplicating her murder scheme in Chapter 3 by having herself and Hifumi act as decoys throughout is primarily what allowed the other students to trace the crimes back to Celestia.
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* CardCarryingVillain: A downplayed example. Gambling is illegal in Japan, so by attending Hope's Peak as the Ultimate Gambler Celestia is essentially declaring herself a criminal (albeit a non-violent criminal probably not worth the effort to prosecute), and she likes to lean into this by declaring herself the 'Queen of Liars' and acting cold and haughty. She also plays up her LackOfEmpathy at her trial, although Makoto thinks that this too is a lie.
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** Her murder plan in Chapter 3 seems pretty ingenious on paper, which Celeste seems to know and this knowledge blinds her to how glaringly obvious she's being when actually ''executing'' the plan.

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** Her murder plan in Chapter 3 seems pretty ingenious on paper, paper (especially since no one would expect the killer to have an accomplice due to the game's rules), which Celeste seems to know and this knowledge blinds her to how glaringly obvious she's being when actually ''executing'' the plan.



* UnreliableNarrator: Most players usually deduce that the tales of her exploits she gives in her free time events are all gigantic lies, or at least exaggerations, probably to grandify her Celeste persona instead of her past, ordinary self.

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* UnreliableNarrator: Most players usually deduce that the tales of her exploits she gives in her Her free time events are all gigantic lies, have her telling stories of her gambling exploits... which correspond suspiciously to gambling manga, making it likely she's lying or at least exaggerations, probably to grandify her Celeste persona instead of her past, ordinary self.exaggerating.



* VillainsDyingGrace: She keeps up the group's charade regarding Alter Ego even as she walks to her execution, and tells the others where she hid it without giving the game away to Monokuma.

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* VillainsDyingGrace: She keeps up the group's charade regarding Alter Ego even as she walks to her execution, execution and tells the others where she hid it without giving the game away to Monokuma.
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* NeverMyFault: She cites her plan failing as due to Hifumi's ineptitude. Hifumi ''did'' make some screwups, such as deciding that the perfect disguise was a Transformers cosplay when Celestia only requested something that would disgiuse one's face and build and making it both impossible for the wearer to move in or take put on themselves, but the whole overcomplicated plan was Celestia's in the first place, Hifumi followed it to the letter, and ''she's'' the one who [[INeverSaidItWasPoison slipped up verbally]]. The plan's failure was as much if not more due to ''Celestia's'' ineptitude.

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* NeverMyFault: She cites her plan failing as due to Hifumi's ineptitude. Hifumi ''did'' make some screwups, such as deciding that the perfect disguise was a Transformers cosplay when Celestia only requested something that would disgiuse one's face and build posture, and making it both impossible for the wearer to move in or take put off/put on themselves, but the whole overcomplicated plan was Celestia's in the first place, Hifumi followed it to the letter, and ''she's'' the one who [[INeverSaidItWasPoison slipped up verbally]]. The plan's failure was as much if not more due to ''Celestia's'' ineptitude.
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* NeverMyFault: She cites her plan failing as due to Hifumi's ineptitude, in spite of the fact that she was caught in part due to her suspicious behavior and {{Freudian Slip}}s. And even when ignoring that and just taking Hifumi's ineptitude into account, just ''who'' was it that decided partnering up with him was a good idea to start with?

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* NeverMyFault: She cites her plan failing as due to Hifumi's ineptitude, in spite of the fact ineptitude. Hifumi ''did'' make some screwups, such as deciding that she the perfect disguise was caught a Transformers cosplay when Celestia only requested something that would disgiuse one's face and build and making it both impossible for the wearer to move in part or take put on themselves, but the whole overcomplicated plan was Celestia's in the first place, Hifumi followed it to the letter, and ''she's'' the one who [[INeverSaidItWasPoison slipped up verbally]]. The plan's failure was as much if not more due to her suspicious behavior and {{Freudian Slip}}s. And even when ignoring that and just taking Hifumi's ineptitude into account, just ''who'' was it that decided partnering up with him was a good idea to start with?''Celestia's'' ineptitude.
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* JerkassHasAPoint: Despite her callousness about the results of people failing to keep curfew (even though she breaks it herself), she has a point that it's the best way to prevent murders:
** Due to bedrooms being lockable from the inside and Monokuma forbidding students from breaking through locked doors, someone who spends the night alone in their room cannot be murdered simply because no one can reach them.
** Because most people would be asleep, there are few potential witnesses for any murder, and few people would have a proper verifiable alibi, since ''anyone'' could claim they spent the night alone in their room with the door locked so nobody could ambush them.
*** All murders do end up taking place at night (Mukuro and Sakura die during the day, but the former is executed and the latter commits suicide) and a consistent problem is a lack of witnesses to the actual murders because they're all asleep, which is why Leon is only caught due to Sayaka writing down his name, and Kyoko has to use Kiyotaka's broken watch to prove that he died earlier than everyone thought.

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