Follow TV Tropes

Following

History Characters / CyberpunkEdgerunnersCorposCriminalsAndFixers

Go To

OR

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* KarmaHoudini: Kate and Douglas's scheming results in the deaths of a lot of people, including [[spoiler:Rebecca and [[TheHeroDies David]]]], but when their plan blows up in their faces, not only does Kate survive, but she offers up Douglas as a scapegoat to the higher-ups.

to:

* KarmaHoudini: Kate and Douglas's scheming results in the deaths of a lot of people, including [[spoiler:Rebecca and [[TheHeroDies David]]]], but when their plan blows up in their faces, not only does Kate survive, but she offers up Douglas as a scapegoat to the higher-ups. [[spoiler: But given that her office looks like Jenkins', its implied that she might not have gotten off either.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* AdaptationalIntelligence: In the tabletop, Smasher's intelligence score was quite low. Even in the base game, he didn't come across particularly intelligent. Here, he is able to deduce the weakness of David's Cyberskeleton instantly[[note]]The Cyberskeleton ''was'' originally meant for Adam, so it is expected he would have some familiarity with the specs.[[/note]] suggesting that he can think strategically and doesn't rely solely on brute force. He also makes some [[JerkassHasAPoint very astute observations]] about David's personality and motivations. That he [[NoSell No-Sells]] Lucy's hacking actively (rather than relying on passive ICE) when the tabletop version was highly vulnerable to hacking also suggests he is a lot [[DumbassNoMore sharper here]] than other portrayals.


Added DiffLines:

* JerkassHasAPoint: He makes some ''very'' astute observations about David's motivations, and accurately points out that even with top-shelf tech, David is hopelessly outmatched, way in over his head, and is literally falling apart. Even his [[NoNonsenseNemesis chiding of David]] for getting distracted mid-battle isn't ''completely'' wrong.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* AlwaysABiggerFish: They don't get much screentime, but it's made very clear from the beginning that Arasaka Intelligence is much more far reaching and resourceful than the Edgerunners can hope to compete with. They make Faraday look like a no-name stooge and have direct authority over [[spoiler: Adam Smasher]] putting them far above any other antagonist in the show.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** He's definitely buffed compared to his game counterpart, however, where in the game a properly specced V can kill him in minutes, while here he's truly a LightningBruiser that easily shrugs off hits far more severe than the bullets and grenades that a player can easily kill him with and has SuperSpeed thanks to a Sandevistan. Although, [[SubvertedTrope this is finally patched]] in the 2.1 update of the game, which brings him up to line with anime and tabletop counterparts in terms of power scale.

to:

** He's definitely buffed compared to his game counterpart, however, where in however. In the game a properly specced V can kill him in minutes, while here he's truly a LightningBruiser that easily shrugs off hits far more severe than the bullets and grenades that a player can easily kill him with and has SuperSpeed thanks to a Sandevistan. Although, [[SubvertedTrope this is finally patched]] in the 2.1 update of the game, which brings him up to line with anime and tabletop counterparts in terms of power scale.



* AdaptationalNiceGuy: A ''very'' minor example. Compared to the game, his portrayal in ''Edgerunners'' lacks the game version's [[HeManWomanHater notorious misogyny]] and has a less vulgar mouth, especially when it comes to his [[CountryMatters treatment]] of women. This version of Smasher is far more emotionally detached and is ''[[FauxAffablyEvil almost]]'' polite to David after defeating him. The game's version basically had the personality of an overgrown schoolyard bully who took every challenge to his power as a [[WhoDares personal insult]], whereas in his sole appearance in the anime, he has all the emotional involvement of a guy [[ButForMeItWasTuesday playing games on his phone at the bus stop while waiting for his ride to arrive.]]

to:

* AdaptationalNiceGuy: A ''very'' minor example. Compared to the game, his His portrayal in ''Edgerunners'' lacks the game version's [[HeManWomanHater notorious misogyny]] and has a less vulgar mouth, especially when it comes to his [[CountryMatters treatment]] of women. This version of Smasher is far more emotionally detached and is ''[[FauxAffablyEvil almost]]'' polite to David after defeating him. The game's version basically had the personality of an overgrown schoolyard bully who took every challenge to his power as a [[WhoDares personal insult]], whereas in his sole appearance in the anime, he has all the emotional involvement of a guy [[ButForMeItWasTuesday playing games on his phone at the bus stop while waiting for his ride to arrive.]]



* AlwaysABiggerFish: Is this to David, despite his affinity for cybernetics enabling him to use [[MiniMecha the Cyberskeleton]], Adam Smasher is vastly more powerful, skilled, and fully capable of ripping him apart with his bare hands. Symbolized in the square-up before the fight proper. Even encased in a MiniMecha about as tall as Smasher and much broader, the position of his torso means David has to crane his neck up to look Smasher in the eye.

to:

* AlwaysABiggerFish: Is this to David, despite his affinity David. Despite David's high tolerance for cybernetics enabling him to use [[MiniMecha the Cyberskeleton]], Adam Smasher is vastly more powerful, skilled, and fully capable of ripping him apart with his bare hands. Symbolized in the square-up before the fight proper. Even encased in a MiniMecha about as tall as Smasher and much broader, the position of his torso means David has to crane his neck up to look Smasher in the eye.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
you can just say it passes for a mask


* AdaptationalAttractiveness: Downplayed as he's not winning any beauty awards anytime soon but the anime's stylization causes his face to lose some of the more grotesque features; His game depiction's face can be summed up as rotting human flesh stretched over half a robotic head. Here, his remaining human skin has merely gone pale with no signs of decay and has enough stylization that it could pass off for a CoolMask similar in appearance to the ones worn by the huge Arasaka bodyguards David was pickpocketing on the train with Lucy early on in the series.

to:

* AdaptationalAttractiveness: Downplayed as he's not winning any beauty awards anytime soon but the anime's stylization causes his face to lose some of the more grotesque features; His game depiction's face can be summed up as rotting human flesh stretched over half a robotic head. Here, his remaining human skin has merely gone pale with no signs of decay and has enough stylization that it could pass off for a CoolMask similar in appearance to the ones worn by the huge Arasaka bodyguards David was pickpocketing on the train with Lucy early on in the series.CoolMask.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** In addition to admitting that he actually had some fun fighting David, he also offered him the chance to become a construct (which is well within the means of Arasaka, and who are able to do so even with a corpse), and when David refuses, Adam Smasher summarily kills him in a way that destroys his brain (the organ most crucial for turning someone into an engram). In his own twisted way, Adam seemed to respect David enough to both offer him a chance at immortality and honor his rejection thereof, to the point of deliberately finishing him off in a way that would prevent Arasaka from posthumously turning him into an engram against his will.

to:

** In addition to admitting that he actually had some fun fighting David, he also offered him the chance to become a construct (which is well within the means of Arasaka, and who are able to do so even with a corpse), and when David refuses, Adam Smasher summarily kills him in a way that destroys by [[BoomHeadshot destroying his brain brain]] (the organ most that's crucial for turning someone into an engram). In his own twisted way, Adam seemed to respect David enough to both offer him a chance at immortality and honor his rejection thereof, to the point of deliberately finishing him off in a way that would prevent Arasaka from posthumously turning him into an engram against his will.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** In addition to admitting that he actually had some fun fighting David, he also offered him the chance to become a construct (which is well within the means of Arasaka, and who are able to do so even with a corpse), and when David refuses, Adam Smasher summarily kills him in a way that destroys his brain. In his own twisted way, Adam seemed to respect David enough to both offer him a chance at immortality and honor his rejection thereof, to the point of deliberately finishing him off in a way that would prevent Arasaka from posthumously turning him into an engram against his will.

to:

** In addition to admitting that he actually had some fun fighting David, he also offered him the chance to become a construct (which is well within the means of Arasaka, and who are able to do so even with a corpse), and when David refuses, Adam Smasher summarily kills him in a way that destroys his brain.brain (the organ most crucial for turning someone into an engram). In his own twisted way, Adam seemed to respect David enough to both offer him a chance at immortality and honor his rejection thereof, to the point of deliberately finishing him off in a way that would prevent Arasaka from posthumously turning him into an engram against his will.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** In his own twisted way he respected David enough to honor his request. Insisting he had fun fighting David he offered him the chance to become a construct, which is well within the means of Arasaka and are able to do so even with a corpse. David refuses the offer and mentions not caring about that. Adam Smasher summarily destroys his brain, which is the part of the body essential for making engrams of people. In his own way Adam Smasher honored David's wishes and by destroying his brain prevented Arasaka from being able to make an engram out of him.

to:

** In his own twisted way addition to admitting that he respected David enough to honor his request. Insisting he actually had some fun fighting David David, he also offered him the chance to become a construct, which construct (which is well within the means of Arasaka Arasaka, and who are able to do so even with a corpse. corpse), and when David refuses the offer and mentions not caring about that. refuses, Adam Smasher summarily kills him in a way that destroys his brain, which is the part of the body essential for making engrams of people. brain. In his own way twisted way, Adam Smasher honored David's wishes seemed to respect David enough to both offer him a chance at immortality and by destroying honor his brain prevented rejection thereof, to the point of deliberately finishing him off in a way that would prevent Arasaka from being able to make posthumously turning him into an engram out of him.against his will.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* WreckedWeapon: [[ImpliedTrope Implied.]] An instant before their collision, it's shown that Rebecca and Smasher fired on one another at point blank range, barrel-to-barrel. Afterwards his rifle is nowhere to be seen, giving the impression that the little Solo managed to take out his main weapon with her last moment alive.

to:

* WreckedWeapon: [[ImpliedTrope Implied.]] An instant before their collision, it's shown that Rebecca and Smasher fired on one another at point blank range, barrel-to-barrel. Afterwards barrel-to-barrel, which is immediately followed by an explosion that's a ''bit'' too fiery and sizable even for an immensely-large cyborg slamming into the ground after falling several stories. Afterwards, his rifle is nowhere to be seen, giving the impression that the little Solo managed to take out his main weapon with her last moment alive.

Added: 149

Changed: 423

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* YouHaveFailedMe: After Faraday's plan ends up causing enough death and destruction to be a PR clusterfuck for Arasaka, Kate tells Douglas to make sure Faraday [[DeadlyEuphemism doesn't take a single step past the docking bay.]]

to:

* YouHaveFailedMe: YouHaveFailedMe:
**
After Faraday's plan ends up causing enough death and destruction to be a PR clusterfuck for Arasaka, Kate tells Douglas to make sure Faraday [[DeadlyEuphemism doesn't take a single step past the docking bay.]]
** Douglas is also a victim of this, albeit a non-lethal variant as Kate pins the failure of the entire situation on him and likely gets him demoted.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** [[spoiler: The worst part is, it is difficult to know if this actually happened, or if it was an early sign of David's encroaching Cyberpsycosis.]]

to:

** [[spoiler: The worst part is, it is difficult to know if this actually happened, or if it was an early sign of David's encroaching Cyberpsycosis.Cyberpsychosis.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* BigBadWannabe: He has dreams of ascending the corporate ladder and becoming more than a fixer, and while his machinations cause David and Lucy no small amount of grief, he's swimming with much bigger fish and isn't as smart or capable as he thinks he is. He's easily played by Arasaka Counterintelligence for their own ends, and they later drop Faraday altogether when his plotting backfires on them in the form of a vengeful David going on the warpath with the Cyberskeleton. More, the climax of the series is against Adam Smasher, with Faraday being treated as an afterthought, suffering an ignominious death. By ''accident'', may we add..

to:

* BigBadWannabe: He has dreams of ascending the corporate ladder and becoming more than a fixer, and while his machinations cause David and Lucy no small amount of grief, he's swimming with much bigger fish and isn't as smart or capable as he thinks he is. He's easily played by Arasaka Counterintelligence for their own ends, and they later drop Faraday altogether when his plotting backfires on them in the form of a vengeful David going on the warpath with the Cyberskeleton. More, the climax of the series is against Adam Smasher, with Faraday being treated as an afterthought, suffering an ignominious death. By ''accident'', may we add..add.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* BigBadWannabe: He has designs on being a hotshot corpo and [[spoiler:starts playing both sides of the field with Militech and Arasaka, in hopes of becoming more than a fixer. However, while his machinations cause David and Lucy no small amount of grief, the series reveals he's far from the biggest threat in Night City, as Kate and Douglas have more authority and resources than him, and Adam Smasher is ultimately the one to have a climactic showdown with David, with Faraday himself suffering a rather unceremonious death. By ''accident'', may we add.]]

to:

* BigBadWannabe: He has designs on being a hotshot corpo dreams of ascending the corporate ladder and [[spoiler:starts playing both sides of the field with Militech and Arasaka, in hopes of becoming more than a fixer. However, fixer, and while his machinations cause David and Lucy no small amount of grief, he's swimming with much bigger fish and isn't as smart or capable as he thinks he is. He's easily played by Arasaka Counterintelligence for their own ends, and they later drop Faraday altogether when his plotting backfires on them in the form of a vengeful David going on the warpath with the Cyberskeleton. More, the climax of the series reveals he's far from the biggest threat in Night City, as Kate and Douglas have more authority and resources than him, and is against Adam Smasher is ultimately the one to have a climactic showdown with David, Smasher, with Faraday himself being treated as an afterthought, suffering a rather unceremonious an ignominious death. By ''accident'', may we add.]]add..
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** All that aside, according to [[WordOfGod Mike Pondsmith]], the reason V is capable of chipping enough chrome to go toe-to-toe with Smasher and walk away alive is because Johnny's psyche reinforces V's, granting them an extreme level of resistance to cyberpsychosis that even David couldn't achieve.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* ImplacableMan: When Arasaka sets Smasher loose on someone, nothing is stopping him until either he or his target is dead:

to:

* ImplacableMan: When Arasaka sets Smasher loose on someone, nothing is stopping him until either he or his target is dead:dead, and until V came along, it was ''always'' the target.

Top