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** She's a physicist by trade: she just happens to also be good at anything else.
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** Talking to plants was actually seemingly one of ''Fred'''s own abilities, as she appeared to do it in early Season #3 episodes.
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***** It wasn't about looks, regardless of Whistler taunting him.
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* SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute: In a way. He was in the cast from the beginning, but was originally intended to be the demon Whistler; the charater Doyle was created with very similar traits when the actor who played Whistler turned out to be unavailable.
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* SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute: In a way. He was in the cast from the beginning, but was originally intended to be the demon Whistler; the charater character Doyle was created with very similar traits when the actor who played Whistler turned out to be unavailable.
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* INeedAFreakingDrink: "Who's up for a Sea Breeze?"
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* MistakenForGay
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* BewareTheNiceOnes: Cordelia [[Lampshading lampshades]].
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* BewareTheNiceOnes: Cordelia [[Lampshading [[LampShadeHanging lampshades]].
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* [[spoiler:ThanatosGambit]]
* VampireHunter
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* {{Glamour}}: To hide the [[FacialHorror]].
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* BattleInTheCenterOfTheMind: Angel vs Angelus
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* ParentalIncest: Made [[Squick squick-y]] by his mother-son relationship with his sire, Darla (as well as Drusilla, his 'daughter').
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* BornInTheWrongCentury
* BattleInTheCenterOfTheMind: Angel vs Angelus
* BattleInTheCenterOfTheMind: Angel vs Angelus
* EnemyWithin: The MostTriumphantExample.
* EvenTheGuysWantHim: "Maybe I'm a ''little'' attracted."
* ExpansionPackPast
* EvenTheGuysWantHim: "Maybe I'm a ''little'' attracted."
* ExpansionPackPast
* TheFogOfAges: By the last episode, Angel has forgotten what it's like to be human.
* GrandTheftMe: Marcus Roscoe stealing Angel's body.
* GuiltyPleasure: He's fond of Barry Manilow. [[spoiler: And Spike's poetry.]]
* GuiltyPleasure: He's fond of Barry Manilow. [[spoiler: And Spike's poetry.]]
* HeroicBSOD: Practically OnceASeason.
* [=~I'LL KILL YOU!~=]
* IKnowKungFu: Photographic memory, ultra-sensitive hearing and sense of smell in the later seasons. When you rewatch the earlier seasons you can't help but notice countless situations where, in retrospect, they inexplicably fail to help him.
** Angel mentioned that he can't control his photographic memory ability, it just "kicks in on instinct".
* [=~I'LL KILL YOU!~=]
* IKnowKungFu: Photographic memory, ultra-sensitive hearing and sense of smell in the later seasons. When you rewatch the earlier seasons you can't help but notice countless situations where, in retrospect, they inexplicably fail to help him.
** Angel mentioned that he can't control his photographic memory ability, it just "kicks in on instinct".
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* MagnificentBastard :[[spoiler: Angelus]]HunterOfHisOwnKind
* KissingUnderTheInfluence
* MagnificentBastard: Angelus in the bad ol' days.
* KissingUnderTheInfluence
* MagnificentBastard: Angelus in the bad ol' days.
* ParentalIncest: Made [[Squick squick-y]] by his mother-son relationship with his sire, Darla (as well as Drusilla, his 'daughter').
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* ThePunishment
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* ThePunishment ThePunishment
* VillainousBSOD: Basically, Angel's curse.
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* WhoWantsToLiveForever
* AllWomenLoveShoes
* [[spoiler: BusCrash]].
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* ConvenientComa: Somewhat subverted, however, in that it's revealed [[spoiler: she ''never'' came out of her coma when she died and it was probably her spirit (or something) that helped Angel.]]
* FaintingSeer: Her visions are somethng akin to "have my skull cracked open and [[ItGotWorse hot lava poured in]]".
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* NewPowersAsThePlotDemands: Season 4.
* SamaritanSyndrome
* FaintingSeer
** FridgeLogic: If being part-demon is all it takes to relieve headaches that come from visions, why does ''Doyle'' have pain?
** FridgeLogic: If being part-demon is all it takes to relieve headaches that come from visions, why does ''Doyle'' have pain?
* BritishStuffiness
* GuiseWillBeGuise: In the episode of that name, where he is forced to impersonate Angel.
* InsistentTerminology: In his first appearance, wants to make sure everyone knows that he's a ''rogue'' demon hunter. --> '''Cordelia:''' What's a rogue demon?
* MistakenForGay
* MrExposition
* MistakenForGay
* MrExposition
* TurnCoat
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-> '''Wesley''': I have no idea where Angel is, Lilah, or what happened to him. And I really couldn't care.
-> '''Lilah''': Wow. That was cold. I think we're finally making progress. Come on. Doesn't it bother you just a little bit? The not knowing?
-> '''Wesley''': That part of my life is dead. Doesn't concern me now.
-> '''Wesley''': I have no idea where Angel is, Lilah, or what happened to him. And I really couldn't care.
-> '''Lilah''': Wow. That was cold. I think we're finally making progress. Come on. Doesn't it bother you just a little bit? The not knowing?
-> '''Wesley''': That part of my life is dead. Doesn't concern me now.
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-> '''Wesley''': I have no idea where Angel is, Lilah, or what happened to him. And I really couldn't care.
-> '''Lilah''': Wow. That was cold. I think we're finally making progress. Come on. Doesn't it bother you just a little bit? The not knowing?
-> '''Wesley''': That part of my life is dead. Doesn't concern me now.
* LetMeGetThisStraight: His most oft-used line.
* [=~Screw Learning, I Have Phlebotinum!~=]: Instantly upgraded to über-lawyer in Season 5.
* BadassBookworm
* BewareTheNiceOnes: Cordelia [[Lampshading lampshades]].
* BewareTheNiceOnes: Cordelia [[Lampshading lampshades]].
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* FateWorseThanDeath: [[spoiler: Illyria's takeover annihilated her soul. Girl can't even go to FluffyCloudHeaven.]]
** Allegedly.
** [[spoiler: Verified by Illyria in the Season Six comics. There's nothing left no matter how much everybody (including, oddly, the God-King) wishes. Just the memory of who she was.]]
** [[spoiler: Wasn't there an Angel comic that established that a portion of Fred's soul survived? Also, the original plan was to bring Fred back in Season 6 and have Amy Acker play both roles. Not sure if it's established that Fred's soul is gone.]]
*** [[spoiler: Fred's personality and memories (which, in a very real sense, is what humans ''are'') are part of Illyria's "shell" as Illyria comments several times. The idea was that the personality and memories of Fred would take on a semi-independent life of their own and sometimes control the shared body.]]
[[spoiler: Jossed in the comic series and Only Human mini. Illyria confirmed that no matter how she tried to be Winifred there is nothing left. All she has is the memory of her, everything she was and is , is gone.]]
** Allegedly.
** [[spoiler: Verified by Illyria in the Season Six comics. There's nothing left no matter how much everybody (including, oddly, the God-King) wishes. Just the memory of who she was.]]
** [[spoiler: Wasn't there an Angel comic that established that a portion of Fred's soul survived? Also, the original plan was to bring Fred back in Season 6 and have Amy Acker play both roles. Not sure if it's established that Fred's soul is gone.]]
*** [[spoiler: Fred's personality and memories (which, in a very real sense, is what humans ''are'') are part of Illyria's "shell" as Illyria comments several times. The idea was that the personality and memories of Fred would take on a semi-independent life of their own and sometimes control the shared body.]]
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* FateWorseThanDeath: [[spoiler: Illyria's takeover annihilated her soul. Girl can't even go ForcefulKiss: Gives one to FluffyCloudHeaven.]]
** Allegedly.
** [[spoiler: Verified by IllyriaWesley in the Season Six comics. There's nothing left no matter how much everybody (including, oddly, the God-King) wishes. Just the memory of who she was.]]
** [[spoiler: Wasn't there an Angel comic that established that a portion of Fred's soul survived? Also, the original plan was to bring Fred back in Season 6 and have Amy Acker play both roles. Not sure if it's established that Fred's soul is gone.]]
*** [[spoiler: Fred's personality and memories (which, in a very real sense, is what humans ''are'') are part of Illyria's "shell" as Illyria comments several times. The idea was that the personality and memories of Fred would take on a semi-independent life of their own and sometimes control the shared body.]]
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** Allegedly.
** [[spoiler: Verified by Illyria
** [[spoiler: Wasn't there an Angel comic that established that a portion of Fred's soul survived? Also, the original plan was to bring Fred back in Season 6 and have Amy Acker play both roles. Not sure if it's established that Fred's soul is gone.]]
*** [[spoiler: Fred's personality and memories (which, in a very real sense, is what humans ''are'') are part of Illyria's "shell" as Illyria comments several times. The idea was that the personality and memories of Fred would take on a semi-independent life of their own and sometimes control the shared body.]]
[[spoiler: Jossed in the comic series and Only Human mini. Illyria confirmed that no matter how she tried to be Winifred there is nothing left. All she has is the memory of her, everything she was and is , is gone.]]
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* NerdsAreSexy
* [[spoiler: TooGoodForThisSinfulEarth]]
* DefrostingIceQueen:
* EldritchAbomination: One of the few (non-parodic) sympathetic unspeakable horrors from the beyond in fiction.
* IntercontinuityCrossover: It's been announced that Illyria is slated to appear in the first issue of ''[[ComicBook/FallenAngel Fallen Angel: Reborn]]''.
* GodEmperor: Her role before the creation of the world. Coming down to blue haired WaifFu wielder was an adjustment to say the least.
* TheJuggernaut
* GodEmperor: Her role before the creation of the world. Coming down to blue haired WaifFu wielder was an adjustment to say the least.
* TheJuggernaut
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* ThatMakesMeFeelAngry
* ThatMakesMeFeelAngry
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* AxCrazy
* ChronicBackstabbingDisorder
* ChronicBackstabbingDisorder
* {{Dhampyr}}: Connor, though he was born to two vampires.
* GoodIsDumb: Connor, with every flip-flop of his so flip-floppy heart, personified Redemption Demotion. As a conflicted character, he was constantly switching sides; when fighting at his father's side he was a bit slower than Angel and not as agile, but when he fought against the good guys he was like {{Spider-man}} with a cause, decking multiple foes with each blow and always one step ahead.
* IHateYouVampireDad
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* AuthorExistenceFailure: Hope they weren't planning a reunion show...
** The story creators are allowing this to apply to Lorne even in the comic books, effectively retiring the character in print (from 2010 onwards) following Andy Hallett's death.
** The story creators are allowing this to apply to Lorne even in the comic books, effectively retiring the character in print (from 2010 onwards) following Andy Hallett's death.
* EmbarrassingFirstName: His full name is Krevlornswath in his native dimension, and even he isn't too fond of the shortened nickname. (He has green skin, which apparently made some people think of Lorne Greene from ''{{Bonanza}}'').
* EnsembleDarkhorse
* EnsembleDarkhorse
* PromotionToOpeningTitles
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* TookAlevelInBadass: His last scene.
* TookAlevelInBadass: His last scene.
* BackFromTheDead
* ExpansionPackPast
* AscendedExtra: Harmony was never popular enough in either series to be an EnsembleDarkhorse, but she was eventually promoted to title credits in the fifth season.
** Mercedes [=McNab=] as Harmony had the longest run of any actor in the Buffy/Angel series, having appeared in both the original, unaired pilot episode for {{Buffy}} (which didn't include Angel), and the final Angel episode.
* ADayInTheLimelight: Harmony in "Harm's Way".
** Mercedes [=McNab=] as Harmony had the longest run of any actor in the Buffy/Angel series, having appeared in both the original, unaired pilot episode for {{Buffy}} (which didn't include Angel), and the final Angel episode.
* ADayInTheLimelight: Harmony in "Harm's Way".
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* CommissionerGordon
* InspectorJavert
* DeepSouth
* DirtyBusiness: He waffles a bit, though
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* TheOnlyOneAllowedToDefeatYou: Inverted. Lindsey's kind of upset when [[spoiler: Lorne]] kills him. It was ''supposed'' to be Angel.
* TookALevelInBadass: Between Seasons 2 and 5, he apparently learned a bunch of kung-fu and [[spoiler: got a bunch of mystical tattoos making him invisible to the Senior Partners]].
* TheOnlyOneAllowedToDefeatYou: Inverted. Lindsey's kind of upset when [[spoiler: Lorne]] kills him. It was ''supposed'' to be Angel.
* TookALevelInBadass: Between Seasons 2 and 5, he apparently learned a bunch of kung-fu and [[spoiler: got a bunch of mystical tattoos making him invisible to the Senior Partners]].
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* HeelFaceRevolvingDoor
HeelFaceRevolvingDoor: Until it [[HeelFaceDoorSlam slams in his face]].
*TheOnlyOneAllowedToDefeatYou: Inverted. Lindsey's kind of upset when [[spoiler: Lorne]] kills him. It was ''supposed'' to be Angel.
* TookALevelInBadass: Between Seasons 2 and 5, he apparently learned a bunch of kung-fu and [[spoiler: got a bunch of mystical tattoos making him invisible to the Senior Partners]].IgnoredEpiphany
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* TookALevelInBadass: Between Seasons 2 and 5, he apparently learned a bunch of kung-fu and [[spoiler: got a bunch of mystical tattoos making him invisible to the Senior Partners]].
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* TookALevelInBadass: Between Seasons 2 and 5, he apparently learned a bunch of kung-fu and [[spoiler: got a bunch of mystical tattoos making him invisible to the Senior Partners]].
* TattooedCrook: Post-Tibet Lindsey had super magic stealth tattoos that let him hide from the Senior Partners. [[spoiler: It doesn't work.]]
* TookALevelInBadass: Between Seasons 2 and 5, he apparently learned a bunch of kung-fu and [[spoiler: got a bunch of mystical tattoos making him invisible to the Senior Partners]].
* AmbitionIsEvil
* BadBoss
* BecomingTheMask
* BecomingTheMask
* SignedUpForTheDental
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* SignificantMonogram / ThemeInitials
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* DepravedBisexual
* DepravedBisexual
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* BlessedWithSuck
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* Stripperiffic
* Stripperiffic
* ColdBloodedTorture: Has no interest in merely killing Angel -- hence the hot pokers.
* Determinator
* EvilMentor: To Justine.
* Determinator
* EvilMentor: To Justine.
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* ImpaledPalm: Holtz does this to Justine to test her loyalty.
* IronicNurseryTune: "All Through the Night".
* IronicNurseryTune: "All Through the Night".
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* RevengeByProxy: again, this is ''very'' justified but one of his main agendas.
* ThanatosGambit: He gives Angel a note to give to Angel's human son Connor, who Holtz stole as a baby and raised in a demon dimension. It explains that Angel and Connor should be together. He also tells Angel the same thing, seemingly having finally made peace with Angel for Connor's sake. Then he has his accomplice stab him twice in the neck so it looks like Angel (a vampire) killed Holtz out of spite. This pretty much destroyed the relationship between Angel and his son forever, especially given the vicious cycle that resulted.
* ThanatosGambit: He gives Angel a note to give to Angel's human son Connor, who Holtz stole as a baby and raised in a demon dimension. It explains that Angel and Connor should be together. He also tells Angel the same thing, seemingly having finally made peace with Angel for Connor's sake. Then he has his accomplice stab him twice in the neck so it looks like Angel (a vampire) killed Holtz out of spite. This pretty much destroyed the relationship between Angel and his son forever, especially given the vicious cycle that resulted.
* EnemyToAllLivingThings: DO NOT let Jasmine touch you. [[{{Understatement}} The results aren't pretty.]]
* {{Glamour}}: To hide the [[FacialHorror]].
* JustTryingToHelp
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* ToServeMan
* TheDragon
* TheJuggernaut
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* TheDragon: for The Senior Partners.
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*** [[spoiler: Fred's personality and memories (which, in a very real sense, is what humans ''are'') are part of Illyria's "shell" as Illyria comments several times. The idea was that the personality and memories of Fred would take on a semi-independent life of their own and sometimes control the shared body.]]
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* DrivenToSuicide: In the second-season episode "Epiphany."
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PutOnABus: After Röhm left the show to join Law & Order.
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* AffablyEvil: Marcus is actually quite polite and rather affable to those he deals with
* DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu: his brutal beatdown of Illyria
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* DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu: his brutal beatdown of
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* StockQuotes: he uses the quote, "We Are Legion. We are Forever." to describe himself
* SupernaturallyDeliciousAndNutritious: Marcus Hamilton makes the mistake of telling Angel that great powers flow through his veins
* TheDragon: for The Senior Partners
* StockQuotes: he uses the quote, "We Are Legion. We are Forever." to describe himself
* SupernaturallyDeliciousAndNutritious: Marcus Hamilton makes the mistake of telling Angel that great powers flow through his veins
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* StockQuotes:he He uses the quote, quote "We Are Legion. We are Forever." Forever" to describe himself
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* TheHeartTheHeart: Increasingly so as time passes, especially after the first-season finale "To Shanshu in L.A."
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* {{Expy}}: His relationship with Angel resembles that of two characters from the ''Tomb of Dracula'' comic.
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* StuffedInTheFridge: JossWhedon has more people in his fridge than Jeffrey Dahmer.
** DudeNotFunny
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Illyria is an Old One, one of the ancient demons that walked the earth before the coming of man. Killed millions of years ago ago, she is reincarnated in Fred's body and intends to rule once again...only to find her army long dead and her temple turned to dust. With nowhere else to go, she remains with the group, seeking to learn how to live in this strange, new world. Still incredibly powerful even in her diminished form, Illyria is a mighty ally to have; but she see human affairs as beneath her and the crew can never be quite sure that she's on their side.
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Illyria is an Old One, one of the ancient demons that walked the earth before the coming of man. Killed millions of years ago ago, she is reincarnated [[spoiler: in Fred's body body]] and intends to rule once again...only to find her army long dead and her temple turned to dust. With nowhere else to go, she remains with the group, seeking to learn how to live in this strange, new world. Still incredibly powerful even in her diminished form, Illyria is a mighty ally to have; but she see human affairs as beneath her and the crew can never be quite sure that she's on their side.
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'''Marcus Hamilton''' (Adam Baldwin)
* AffablyEvil: Marcus is actually quite polite and rather affable to those he deals with
* DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu: his brutal beatdown of Illyria
* DressedToKill
* NighInvulnerability
* NoHoldsBarredBeatdown: he constantly inflicts this on others
* StockQuotes: he uses the quote, "We Are Legion. We are Forever." to describe himself
* SupernaturallyDeliciousAndNutritious: Marcus Hamilton makes the mistake of telling Angel that great powers flow through his veins
* TheDragon: for The Senior Partners
* TheJuggernaut
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* CelibateHero: "I'm not a eunuch!"
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* CelibateHero: "I'm not a eunuch!"eunuch!".
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*** Also, [[{{DawsonCasting}} she looked about 21 at the time]].
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*** Also, [[{{DawsonCasting}} [[DawsonCasting she looked about 21 at the time]].
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* BlessedWithSuck: The visions which show people in trouble at the cost of extreme migraines that [[spoiler:will eventually kill her]].
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* BlessedWithSuck: The visions which show people in trouble at the cost of extreme migraines that [[spoiler:will [[spoiler: will eventually kill her]].
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* ConvenientComa: Somewhat subverted, however, in that it's revealed [[spoiler:she ''never'' came out of her coma when she died and it was probably her spirit (or something) that helped Angel.]]
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* ConvenientComa: Somewhat subverted, however, in that it's revealed [[spoiler:she [[spoiler: she ''never'' came out of her coma when she died and it was probably her spirit (or something) that helped Angel.]]
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* DemonicPossession: Not quite. [[spoiler:She was possessed by a Power That Was.]]
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* DemonicPossession: Not quite. [[spoiler:She [[spoiler: She was possessed by a Power That Was.]]
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* [[spoiler:HeroicSacrifice]][[spoiler: HeroicSacrifice]]
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* LastKiss: That actually [[spoiler:transfers his visions to Cordelia]].
* MoreHeroThanThou: When he [[spoiler:knocked Angel off a platform so that Angel wouldn't have to perform the HeroicSacrifice]].
* MoreHeroThanThou: When he [[spoiler:knocked Angel off a platform so that Angel wouldn't have to perform the HeroicSacrifice]].
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* LastKiss: That actually [[spoiler:transfers [[spoiler: transfers his visions to Cordelia]].
* MoreHeroThanThou: When he[[spoiler:knocked [[spoiler: knocked Angel off a platform so that Angel wouldn't have to perform the HeroicSacrifice]].
* MoreHeroThanThou: When he
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* StalkingIsLove: [[spoiler:Fred goes for him in the end.]]
* SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute: After Doyle's [[spoiler:death]].
* TookALevelInBadass: In ''{{Buffy}}'', he was a bumbling, stuffy guy who never disobeyed the rules. In his first episode of ''{{Angel}}'', he wore a leather jacket and called himself a "Rogue Demon Hunter." Of course, he was still bumbling and didn't really become {{Badass}} until [[spoiler:after his throat was cut]] -- which also explains why he stopped shaving.
* SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute: After Doyle's [[spoiler:death]].
* TookALevelInBadass: In ''{{Buffy}}'', he was a bumbling, stuffy guy who never disobeyed the rules. In his first episode of ''{{Angel}}'', he wore a leather jacket and called himself a "Rogue Demon Hunter." Of course, he was still bumbling and didn't really become {{Badass}} until [[spoiler:after his throat was cut]] -- which also explains why he stopped shaving.
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* StalkingIsLove: [[spoiler:Fred [[spoiler: Fred goes for him in the end.]]
* SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute: After Doyle's[[spoiler:death]].
[[spoiler: death]].
* TookALevelInBadass: In ''{{Buffy}}'', he was a bumbling, stuffy guy who never disobeyed the rules. In his first episode of ''{{Angel}}'', he wore a leather jacket and called himself a "Rogue Demon Hunter." Of course, he was still bumbling and didn't really become {{Badass}} until[[spoiler:after [[spoiler: after his throat was cut]] -- which also explains why he stopped shaving.
* SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute: After Doyle's
* TookALevelInBadass: In ''{{Buffy}}'', he was a bumbling, stuffy guy who never disobeyed the rules. In his first episode of ''{{Angel}}'', he wore a leather jacket and called himself a "Rogue Demon Hunter." Of course, he was still bumbling and didn't really become {{Badass}} until
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* TookALevelInBadass: The reverse of Wesley. While Wesley became a tougher and more capable combatant, Gunn, already a BadassNormal, took the reverse; his head is filled with the knowledge of all laws, demonic and human. He becomes a point man in a tense demonic negotiation, not to mention heightened deductive abilities (maybe a literal case -- [[spoiler:he has a chip implanted in his head to boost his reasoning that also houses the knowledge. As well as the complete works of Gilbert and Sullivan]]).
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* TookALevelInBadass: The reverse of Wesley. While Wesley became a tougher and more capable combatant, Gunn, already a BadassNormal, took the reverse; his head is filled with the knowledge of all laws, demonic and human. He becomes a point man in a tense demonic negotiation, not to mention heightened deductive abilities (maybe a literal case -- [[spoiler:he [[spoiler: he has a chip implanted in his head to boost his reasoning that also houses the knowledge. As well as the complete works of Gilbert and Sullivan]]).
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* FateWorseThanDeath: [[spoiler:Illyria's takeover annihilated her soul. Girl can't even go to FluffyCloudHeaven.]]
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* FateWorseThanDeath: [[spoiler:Illyria's [[spoiler: Illyria's takeover annihilated her soul. Girl can't even go to FluffyCloudHeaven.]]
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** [[spoiler:Verified by Illyria in the Season Six comics. There's nothing left no matter how much everybody (including, oddly, the God-King) wishes. Just the memory of who she was.]]
** [[spoiler:Wasn't there an Angel comic that established that a portion of Fred's soul survived? Also, the original plan was to bring Fred back in Season 6 and have Amy Acker play both roles. Not sure if it's established that Fred's soul is gone.]]
** [[spoiler:Wasn't there an Angel comic that established that a portion of Fred's soul survived? Also, the original plan was to bring Fred back in Season 6 and have Amy Acker play both roles. Not sure if it's established that Fred's soul is gone.]]
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** [[spoiler:Verified [[spoiler: Verified by Illyria in the Season Six comics. There's nothing left no matter how much everybody (including, oddly, the God-King) wishes. Just the memory of who she was.]]
**[[spoiler:Wasn't [[spoiler: Wasn't there an Angel comic that established that a portion of Fred's soul survived? Also, the original plan was to bring Fred back in Season 6 and have Amy Acker play both roles. Not sure if it's established that Fred's soul is gone.]]
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*** Correct, it wasn't funny... it was hilarious!
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* DemonicPossession: She not only [[spoiler:took over Fred's body, but consumed her soul, too]].
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* DemonicPossession: She not only [[spoiler:took [[spoiler: took over Fred's body, but consumed her soul, too]].
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Against all laws of the universe, [[spoiler:Angel conceives a son]] and the result is Connor, who is super-strong, agile, has enhanced senses and healing and is, by all appearances, human. Taken away to another dimension, the Quor-Toth, as a baby, Connor returns a few months later. Of course, due to time flowing differently there, he is now sixteen years old, and an incredible fighter. Harbouring a deep hatred for Angel's true nature, Connor is at odds with Angel Investigation just as often as he is fighting alongside them.
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Against all laws of the universe, [[spoiler:Angel [[spoiler: Angel conceives a son]] and the result is Connor, who is super-strong, agile, has enhanced senses and healing and is, by all appearances, human. Taken away to another dimension, the Quor-Toth, as a baby, Connor returns a few months later. Of course, due to time flowing differently there, he is now sixteen years old, and an incredible fighter. Harbouring a deep hatred for Angel's true nature, Connor is at odds with Angel Investigation just as often as he is fighting alongside them.
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* [[spoiler:DrivenToSuicide: He tries to commit SuicideByCop after Jasmine's defeat, and doesn't care if the Cop has to be Angel.]]
* FakeMemories: [[spoiler:Angel has Wolfram and Hart change his memories and give him a new life to make him better adjusted. Even once his original memorie are restored, he's a lot more grounded.]]
* FakeMemories: [[spoiler:Angel has Wolfram and Hart change his memories and give him a new life to make him better adjusted. Even once his original memorie are restored, he's a lot more grounded.]]
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* [[spoiler:DrivenToSuicide: [[spoiler: DrivenToSuicide: He tries to commit SuicideByCop after Jasmine's defeat, and doesn't care if the Cop has to be Angel.]]
* FakeMemories:[[spoiler:Angel [[spoiler: Angel has Wolfram and Hart change his memories and give him a new life to make him better adjusted. Even once his original memorie are restored, he's a lot more grounded.]]
* FakeMemories:
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* LossOfIdentity: Not only does [[spoiler:Angel wipe Connor's memory, but he changes reality so that he's happy and well-adjusted]].
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* LossOfIdentity: Not only does [[spoiler:Angel [[spoiler: Angel wipe Connor's memory, but he changes reality so that he's happy and well-adjusted]].
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* NotBrainwashed: [[spoiler:Jasmine]]
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* NotBrainwashed: [[spoiler:Jasmine]][[spoiler: Jasmine]]
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* RaisedByWolves: Not wolves, but Angel's [[spoiler:archenemy in a ''hell dimension'']].
* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: After [[spoiler:his memories are altered]].
* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: After [[spoiler:his memories are altered]].
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* RaisedByWolves: Not wolves, but Angel's [[spoiler:archenemy [[spoiler: archenemy in a ''hell dimension'']].
* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: After[[spoiler:his [[spoiler: his memories are altered]].
* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: After
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* [[Main/{{Mentors}} Mentor]]: Sort of.
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* [[Main/{{Mentors}} [[MentorArchetype Mentor]]: Sort of.
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One of Cordelia's high-school posse, Harmony is turned into a vampire after graduation. Upon moving to LA, she seeks out Cordelia once more, but her vampire instincts means it's not long before she tries to kill the crew. At some point after this, she gets a job at Wolfram & Hart, and when [[spoiler:Angel takes over the firm, she's picked as his secretary]]. She's still evil, but thankfully, she's very bad at it.
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One of Cordelia's high-school posse, Harmony is turned into a vampire after graduation. Upon moving to LA, she seeks out Cordelia once more, but her vampire instincts means it's not long before she tries to kill the crew. At some point after this, she gets a job at Wolfram & Hart, and when [[spoiler:Angel [[spoiler: Angel takes over the firm, she's picked as his secretary]]. She's still evil, but thankfully, she's very bad at it.
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* [[spoiler:NotSoHarmless]]
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* [[spoiler:NotSoHarmless]][[spoiler: NotSoHarmless]]
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A young up-and-coming lawyer at Wolfram & Hart, Lindsey finds himself crossing paths with Angel a number of times. Intelligent and amoral (almost), Lindsey comes to see himself as Angel's rival...even if Angel doesn't.
* [[spoiler:AlasPoorVillain]]
* [[spoiler:AlasPoorVillain]]
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A young up-and-coming lawyer at Wolfram & Hart, Lindsey finds himself crossing paths with Angel a number of times. Intelligent and amoral (almost), Lindsey comes to see himself as Angel's rival... even if Angel doesn't.
*[[spoiler:AlasPoorVillain]][[spoiler: AlasPoorVillain]]
*
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* TheOnlyOneAllowedToDefeatYou: Inverted. Lindsey's kind of upset when [[spoiler:Lorne]] kills him. It was ''supposed'' to be Angel.
* TookALevelInBadass: Between Seasons 2 and 5, he apparently learned a bunch of kung-fu and [[spoiler:got a bunch of mystical tattoos making him invisible to the Senior Partners]].
* TookALevelInBadass: Between Seasons 2 and 5, he apparently learned a bunch of kung-fu and [[spoiler:got a bunch of mystical tattoos making him invisible to the Senior Partners]].
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* TheOnlyOneAllowedToDefeatYou: Inverted. Lindsey's kind of upset when [[spoiler:Lorne]] [[spoiler: Lorne]] kills him. It was ''supposed'' to be Angel.
* TookALevelInBadass: Between Seasons 2 and 5, he apparently learned a bunch of kung-fu and[[spoiler:got [[spoiler: got a bunch of mystical tattoos making him invisible to the Senior Partners]].
* TookALevelInBadass: Between Seasons 2 and 5, he apparently learned a bunch of kung-fu and
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* VanHelsingHateCrimes: More justified that most but still there
* RevengeByProxy: again, this is ''very'' justified but one of his main agendas
* ThanatosGambit: He gives Angel a note to give to Angel's human son Connor, who Holtz stole as a baby and raised in a demon dimension. It explains that Angel and Connor should be together. He also tells Angel the same thing, seemingly having finally made peace with Angel for Connor's sake. Then he has his accomplice stab him twice in the neck so it looks like Angel (a vampire) killed Holtz out of spite. This pretty much destroyed the relationship between Angel and his son forever, especially given the vicious cycle that resulted
* HeWhoFightsMonsters
* ImpaledPalm: Holtz does this to Justine to test her loyalty
* RevengeByProxy: again, this is ''very'' justified but one of his main agendas
* ThanatosGambit: He gives Angel a note to give to Angel's human son Connor, who Holtz stole as a baby and raised in a demon dimension. It explains that Angel and Connor should be together. He also tells Angel the same thing, seemingly having finally made peace with Angel for Connor's sake. Then he has his accomplice stab him twice in the neck so it looks like Angel (a vampire) killed Holtz out of spite. This pretty much destroyed the relationship between Angel and his son forever, especially given the vicious cycle that resulted
* HeWhoFightsMonsters
* ImpaledPalm: Holtz does this to Justine to test her loyalty
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* VanHelsingHateCrimes: More justified that most but still there
* RevengeByProxy: again, this is ''very'' justified but one of his main agendas
* ThanatosGambit: He gives Angel a note to give to Angel's human son Connor, who Holtz stole as a baby and raised in a demon dimension. It explains that Angel and Connor should be together. He also tells Angel the same thing, seemingly having finally made peace with Angel for Connor's sake. Then he has his accomplice stab him twice in the neck so it looks like Angel (a vampire) killed Holtz out of spite. This pretty much destroyed the relationship between Angel and his son forever, especially given the vicious cycle that resulted
* HeWhoFightsMonsters
* ImpaledPalm: Holtz does this to Justine to test her loyaltyAntiVillain
* RevengeByProxy: again, this is ''very'' justified but one of his main agendas
* ThanatosGambit: He gives Angel a note to give to Angel's human son Connor, who Holtz stole as a baby and raised in a demon dimension. It explains that Angel and Connor should be together. He also tells Angel the same thing, seemingly having finally made peace with Angel for Connor's sake. Then he has his accomplice stab him twice in the neck so it looks like Angel (a vampire) killed Holtz out of spite. This pretty much destroyed the relationship between Angel and his son forever, especially given the vicious cycle that resulted
* HeWhoFightsMonsters
* ImpaledPalm: Holtz does this to Justine to test her loyalty
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* KillTheOnesYouLove: [[TearJerker His dealing with his daughter]].
* AntiVillain
* TheHunter
* AntiVillain
* TheHunter
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* ItsPersonal: ''personified''
* ManipulativeBastard: One of the best
* ManipulativeBastard: One of the best
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* HeWhoFightsMonsters
* TheHunter
* ImpaledPalm: Holtz does this to Justine to test her loyalty.
* IronicNurseryTune: "All Through the Night".
* ItsPersonal:''personified''
* ManipulativeBastard: One of the best''Personified''.
* TheHunter
* ImpaledPalm: Holtz does this to Justine to test her loyalty.
* IronicNurseryTune: "All Through the Night".
* ItsPersonal:
* ManipulativeBastard: One of the best
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* IronicNurseryTune: "All Through the Night"
* MagnificentBastard: and ''How''. Jasmine spent millenia with godlike power manipulating events to come to earth, lasted less than a week, and died at the hands of her most loyal servant. Wolfram and Hart spent five seasons with nigh-limitless resources trying to corrupt Angel and all they accomplished in the end was letting him know who to kill. Meanwhile Holtz, had no powers whatsoever, was out of his own time and had no allies but those he created for himself. And in half a season he managed to convince one of Angel's closest friends to kidnap Angel's son, then escaped into a hell dimension with him, raising him to be Angel's worst enemy. Then his assisted suicide actually made things worse between them.
* KnightTemplar
* MagnificentBastard: and ''How''. Jasmine spent millenia with godlike power manipulating events to come to earth, lasted less than a week, and died at the hands of her most loyal servant. Wolfram and Hart spent five seasons with nigh-limitless resources trying to corrupt Angel and all they accomplished in the end was letting him know who to kill. Meanwhile Holtz, had no powers whatsoever, was out of his own time and had no allies but those he created for himself. And in half a season he managed to convince one of Angel's closest friends to kidnap Angel's son, then escaped into a hell dimension with him, raising him to be Angel's worst enemy. Then his assisted suicide actually made things worse between them.
* KnightTemplar
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* IronicNurseryTune: "All Through the Night"
KillTheOnesYouLove: [[TearJerker His dealing with his daughter]].
* KnightTemplar
* MagnificentBastard:and And ''How''. Jasmine spent millenia with godlike power manipulating events to come to earth, lasted less than a week, and died at the hands of her most loyal servant. Wolfram and Hart spent five seasons with nigh-limitless resources trying to corrupt Angel and all they accomplished in the end was letting him know who to kill. Meanwhile Holtz, had no powers whatsoever, was out of his own time and had no allies but those he created for himself. And in half a season he managed to convince one of Angel's closest friends to kidnap Angel's son, then escaped into a hell dimension with him, raising him to be Angel's worst enemy. Then his assisted suicide actually made things worse between them.
*KnightTemplar
ManipulativeBastard: One of the best.
* RevengeByProxy: again, this is ''very'' justified but one of his main agendas.
* ThanatosGambit: He gives Angel a note to give to Angel's human son Connor, who Holtz stole as a baby and raised in a demon dimension. It explains that Angel and Connor should be together. He also tells Angel the same thing, seemingly having finally made peace with Angel for Connor's sake. Then he has his accomplice stab him twice in the neck so it looks like Angel (a vampire) killed Holtz out of spite. This pretty much destroyed the relationship between Angel and his son forever, especially given the vicious cycle that resulted.
* VanHelsingHateCrimes: More justified that most but still there.
* KnightTemplar
* MagnificentBastard:
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* RevengeByProxy: again, this is ''very'' justified but one of his main agendas.
* ThanatosGambit: He gives Angel a note to give to Angel's human son Connor, who Holtz stole as a baby and raised in a demon dimension. It explains that Angel and Connor should be together. He also tells Angel the same thing, seemingly having finally made peace with Angel for Connor's sake. Then he has his accomplice stab him twice in the neck so it looks like Angel (a vampire) killed Holtz out of spite. This pretty much destroyed the relationship between Angel and his son forever, especially given the vicious cycle that resulted.
* VanHelsingHateCrimes: More justified that most but still there.
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* WellIntentionedExtremist
* LightIsNotGood
* MassHypnosis: One of her abilites
* PhysicalGod
* LightIsNotGood
* MassHypnosis: One of her abilites
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* HiveQueen
* DarkMessiah: She attempts to bring peace to the world ... by employing global-scale mind control to disguise her appearance and make demands regarding worshiping her, eating scores of people along the way.
* TheEvilsOfFreeWill: She firmly belives this
* DarkMessiah: She attempts to bring peace to the world ... by employing global-scale mind control to disguise her appearance and make demands regarding worshiping her, eating scores of people along the way.
* TheEvilsOfFreeWill: She firmly belives this
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* UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans
* DarkMessiah: She attempts to bring peace to the world... by employing global-scale mind control to disguise her appearance and make demands regarding worshiping her, eating scores of people along the way.
* TheEvilsOfFreeWill: She firmly belives this.
* HiveQueen
* TheEvilsOfFreeWill: She firmly belives this.
* HiveQueen
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* TermsOfEndangerment: Jasmine tends to call her minions things like 'sweet boy' and 'my love.'
* StarbucksSkinScale: Angel once described Jasmine as "mocha."
* StarbucksSkinScale: Angel once described Jasmine as "mocha."
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* TermsOfEndangerment: Jasmine tends to call her minions things like 'sweet boy' and 'my love.'
* StarbucksSkinScale: Angel once described Jasmine as "mocha."LightIsNotGood
* StarbucksSkinScale: Angel once described Jasmine as "mocha."
* MassHypnosis: One of her abilites.
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* StarbucksSkinScale: Angel once described Jasmine as "mocha".
* TermsOfEndangerment: Jasmine tends to call her minions things like 'sweet boy' and 'my love'.
* UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans
* WellIntentionedExtremist
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* MagnificentBastard: and ''How''. Jasmine spent millenia with godlike power manipulating events to come to earth, lasted less than a week, and died at the hands of her most loyal servant. Wolfram and Hart spent five seasons with nigh-limitless resources trying to corrupt Angel and all they accomplished in the end was letting him know who to kill. Meanwhile Holtz, had no powers whatsoever, was out of his own time and had no allies but those he created for himself. And in half a season he managed to convince one of Angel's closest friends to kidnap Angel's son, then escaped into a hell dimension with him, raising him to be Angel's worst enemy. Then his assisted suicide actually made things worse between them.
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* MagnificentBastard: and ''How''. Jasmine spent millenia with godlike power manipulating events to come to earth, lasted less than a week, and died at the hands of her most loyal servant. Wolfram and Hart spent five seasons with nigh-limitless resources trying to corrupt Angel and all they accomplished in the end was letting him know who to kill. Meanwhile Holtz, had no powers whatsoever, was out of his own time and had no allies but those he created for himself. And in half a season he managed to convince one of Angel's closest friends to kidnap Angel's son, then escaped into a hell dimension with him, raising him to be Angel's worst enemy. Then his assisted suicide actually made things worse between them.
them.
* KnightTemplar
'''Jasmine'''(Gina Torres)
* WellIntentionedExtremist
* LightIsNotGood
* MassHypnosis: One of her abilites
* PhysicalGod
* AFormYouAreComfortableWith
* HiveQueen
* DarkMessiah: She attempts to bring peace to the world ... by employing global-scale mind control to disguise her appearance and make demands regarding worshiping her, eating scores of people along the way.
* TheEvilsOfFreeWill: She firmly belives this
* AssimilationPlot
* UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans
* BitchInSheepsClothing
* KnightTemplar
* TermsOfEndangerment: Jasmine tends to call her minions things like 'sweet boy' and 'my love.'
* StarbucksSkinScale: Angel once described Jasmine as "mocha."
* TheManBehindTheMan
* MotiveRant
* KnightTemplar
'''Jasmine'''(Gina Torres)
* WellIntentionedExtremist
* LightIsNotGood
* MassHypnosis: One of her abilites
* PhysicalGod
* AFormYouAreComfortableWith
* HiveQueen
* DarkMessiah: She attempts to bring peace to the world ... by employing global-scale mind control to disguise her appearance and make demands regarding worshiping her, eating scores of people along the way.
* TheEvilsOfFreeWill: She firmly belives this
* AssimilationPlot
* UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans
* BitchInSheepsClothing
* KnightTemplar
* TermsOfEndangerment: Jasmine tends to call her minions things like 'sweet boy' and 'my love.'
* StarbucksSkinScale: Angel once described Jasmine as "mocha."
* TheManBehindTheMan
* MotiveRant
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* AntiVillianAntiVillain
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'''Daniel Holtz''' (Keith Szarabajka)
* VanHelsingHateCrimes: More justified that most but still there
* RevengeByProxy: again, this is ''very'' justified but one of his main agendas
* ThanatosGambit: He gives Angel a note to give to Angel's human son Connor, who Holtz stole as a baby and raised in a demon dimension. It explains that Angel and Connor should be together. He also tells Angel the same thing, seemingly having finally made peace with Angel for Connor's sake. Then he has his accomplice stab him twice in the neck so it looks like Angel (a vampire) killed Holtz out of spite. This pretty much destroyed the relationship between Angel and his son forever, especially given the vicious cycle that resulted
* HeWhoFightsMonsters
* ImpaledPalm: Holtz does this to Justine to test her loyalty
* BadassNormal
* KillTheOnesYouLove: [[TearJerker His dealing with his daughter]].
* AntiVillian
* TheHunter
* FishOutOfTemporalWater
* ItsPersonal: ''personified''
* ManipulativeBastard: One of the best
* JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope
* IronicNuseryTune: "All Through the Night"
* MagnificentBastard: and ''How''. Jasmine spent millenia with godlike power manipulating events to come to earth, lasted less than a week, and died at the hands of her most loyal servant. Wolfram and Hart spent five seasons with nigh-limitless resources trying to corrupt Angel and all they accomplished in the end was letting him know who to kill. Meanwhile Holtz, had no powers whatsoever, was out of his own time and had no allies but those he created for himself. And in half a season he managed to convince one of Angel's closest friends to kidnap Angel's son, then escaped into a hell dimension with him, raising him to be Angel's worst enemy. Then his assisted suicide actually made things worse between them.
* VanHelsingHateCrimes: More justified that most but still there
* RevengeByProxy: again, this is ''very'' justified but one of his main agendas
* ThanatosGambit: He gives Angel a note to give to Angel's human son Connor, who Holtz stole as a baby and raised in a demon dimension. It explains that Angel and Connor should be together. He also tells Angel the same thing, seemingly having finally made peace with Angel for Connor's sake. Then he has his accomplice stab him twice in the neck so it looks like Angel (a vampire) killed Holtz out of spite. This pretty much destroyed the relationship between Angel and his son forever, especially given the vicious cycle that resulted
* HeWhoFightsMonsters
* ImpaledPalm: Holtz does this to Justine to test her loyalty
* BadassNormal
* KillTheOnesYouLove: [[TearJerker His dealing with his daughter]].
* AntiVillian
* TheHunter
* FishOutOfTemporalWater
* ItsPersonal: ''personified''
* ManipulativeBastard: One of the best
* JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope
* IronicNuseryTune: "All Through the Night"
* MagnificentBastard: and ''How''. Jasmine spent millenia with godlike power manipulating events to come to earth, lasted less than a week, and died at the hands of her most loyal servant. Wolfram and Hart spent five seasons with nigh-limitless resources trying to corrupt Angel and all they accomplished in the end was letting him know who to kill. Meanwhile Holtz, had no powers whatsoever, was out of his own time and had no allies but those he created for himself. And in half a season he managed to convince one of Angel's closest friends to kidnap Angel's son, then escaped into a hell dimension with him, raising him to be Angel's worst enemy. Then his assisted suicide actually made things worse between them.