History Characters / ASongOfIceAndFireHouseLannister

18th Sep '17 4:44:50 AM Ezaxcks
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* DirtyCoward: Despite his ruthlessness he has moments of this, he pulls a Walder Frey during Robert's Rebellion, committing his forces only when the result of the war is clear and then slaughtering the Targaryen Royal Family to overcompensate for being a Johnny-come lately.


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* {{Opportunistic Bastard}}: Despite his ruthlessness he has moments of this, he pulls a Walder Frey during Robert's Rebellion, committing his forces only when the result of the war is clear and then slaughtering the Targaryen Royal Family to overcompensate for being a Johnny-come lately.
3rd Sep '17 11:37:17 PM RoyFlowers
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* RoaringRampageOfRevenge: After Tywin's mass slaughter of the Reynes and Tarbecks, House Lannister's ruthless, almost indiscriminate sense of vengeance is well-known and feared throughout the realm. It's half the reason why they are so famous for paying their debts.
3rd Sep '17 11:27:25 PM RoyFlowers
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* {{Greed}}: Wealth, power, respect, fear, love. They want it all.
26th Aug '17 11:24:48 PM Vox
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** Also, ''do not laugh at him''.

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** Also, if you value your life and that of your entire family, ''do not laugh at him''.
26th Aug '17 9:05:23 PM karategal
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* BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor: He wanted his son to be a great warrior and his daughter to be a queen - it came true, but the son became a warrior so great that he got accepted into the Kingsguard, meaning that ''all'' he would ever be would be a warrior, and the daughter's queenship [[GodSaveUsFromTheQueen caused a string of disasters.]] He desired to see a king with a Lannister blood on the Iron Throne - and he did, with the king (unknowingly to Tywin) having even more Lannister blood than Grandpa would have wished, being the child of the two "model" Lannister children to boot... and TheCaligula, undermining every sensible thing his more competent relatives tried to do. And lastly, Tywin longed for a son who would be a suitable heir and a man as competent as politician as Tywin himself - and stubbornly tried to push Jaime into this role, refusing to notice how well his other, hated son, Tyrion, fit in it. It resulted in Tyrion performing the ultimate act of Tywin's "true" son: shooting his father with a crossbow.

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* BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor: He wanted his son to be a great warrior and his daughter to be a queen - -- it came true, but the son became a warrior so great that he got accepted into the Kingsguard, meaning that ''all'' he would ever be would be a warrior, and the daughter's queenship [[GodSaveUsFromTheQueen caused a string of disasters.]] He desired to see a king with a Lannister blood on the Iron Throne - -- and he did, with the king (unknowingly to Tywin) having even more Lannister blood than Grandpa would have wished, being the child of the two "model" Lannister children to boot... and TheCaligula, undermining every sensible thing his more competent relatives tried to do. And lastly, Tywin longed for a son who would be a suitable heir and a man as competent as politician as Tywin himself - -- and stubbornly tried to push Jaime into this role, refusing to notice how well his other, hated son, Tyrion, fit in it. It resulted in Tyrion performing the ultimate act of Tywin's "true" son: shooting his father with a crossbow.



* ControlFreak: Views his family as chess pieces in his various political gambits, and doesn't like it when they refuse to play along - his two sons and his sister Genna all end up earning Tywin's wrath in this regard. Tywin's only true confidant is his brother Kevan who made the decision early in life to willingly become his unquestioning supporter.

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* ControlFreak: Views his family as chess pieces in his various political gambits, and doesn't like it when they refuse to play along - -- his two sons and his sister Genna all end up earning Tywin's wrath in this regard. Tywin's only true confidant is his brother Kevan who made the decision early in life to willingly become his unquestioning supporter.



** Most of the ones who think well of Tywin tend to be Lannister supporters and the nobility. He isn't popular among the smallfolk as seen ''A Feast For Crows'' when Jaime notes how few people attended Tywin's public funeral. He is still hated by several denizens of Kings Landing for his sack during Robert's Rebellion. As ''The World of Ice and Fire'' shows, the major reason why Tywin was seen as a Hand who restored order was because he removed all of Aegon V's pro-smallfolk reforms. The knock-on effect of that? Is seen in AFFC: the rise of the Faith Militant in a Westerosi-style, religiously themed peasants' revolt. So... he turned out to be a temporary "fix".

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** Most of the ones who think well of Tywin tend to be Lannister supporters and the nobility. He isn't popular among the smallfolk as seen ''A Feast For Crows'' when Jaime notes how few people attended Tywin's public funeral. He is still hated by several denizens of Kings Landing for his sack during Robert's Rebellion. As ''The World of Ice and Fire'' shows, the major reason why Tywin was seen as a Hand who restored order was because he removed all of Aegon V's pro-smallfolk reforms. The knock-on effect of that? Is seen in AFFC: ''AFFC'': the rise of the Faith Militant in a Westerosi-style, religiously themed peasants' revolt. So... he turned out to be a temporary "fix".



** Implied for what Ser Gregor did to Elia Martell; her brother recounts that their mother, the Princess of Dorne, took them to Casterly Rock as children to try and arrange marriages between the families, him to Cersei and Elia to Jaime. Tywin refused them, explicitly stating that Cersei was to marry prince Rhaegar (see above) and insultingly offering to arrange a marriage between Elia and the newly born - and deformed - Tyrion. In the end, the Martells' mother arranged for Elia to marry Rhaegar instead of Cersei. Her brother Oberyn speculates that Tywin ordered Gregor to rape and murder her as a way of "paying the debt". Tywin himself denies this, claiming to Tyrion that he only ordered the deaths of the children to remove their claim to the throne and that he didn't mention Elia to Gregor at all.

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** Implied for what Ser Gregor did to Elia Martell; her brother recounts that their mother, the Princess of Dorne, took them to Casterly Rock as children to try and arrange marriages between the families, him to Cersei and Elia to Jaime. Tywin refused them, explicitly stating that Cersei was to marry prince Rhaegar (see above) and insultingly offering to arrange a marriage between Elia and the newly born - -- and deformed - -- Tyrion. In the end, the Martells' mother arranged for Elia to marry Rhaegar instead of Cersei. Her brother Oberyn speculates that Tywin ordered Gregor to rape and murder her as a way of "paying the debt". Tywin himself denies this, claiming to Tyrion that he only ordered the deaths of the children to remove their claim to the throne and that he didn't mention Elia to Gregor at all.



** While he ordered the deaths of Rhaegar Targaryen's children - and displayed the bodies in front of Robert Baratheon to assure everyone of his loyalty - even ''he'' appears to have been shocked and disturbed by how violent said deaths were. He was also rather insulted when Tyrion assumes that he ordered Elia Martell's rape and murder, claiming he never mentioned her and assumed she'd be left alone[[note]]though a story told by her brother Oberyn Martell casts some doubts on that[[/note]]. He also reprimanded Amory Lorch for being so stupid as to stab Princess Rhaenys fifty times instead of calming her with sweet words and then use a pillow to smother her.

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** While he ordered the deaths of Rhaegar Targaryen's children - -- and displayed the bodies in front of Robert Baratheon to assure everyone of his loyalty - -- even ''he'' appears to have been shocked and disturbed by how violent said deaths were. He was also rather insulted when Tyrion assumes that he ordered Elia Martell's rape and murder, claiming he never mentioned her and assumed she'd be left alone[[note]]though a story told by her brother Oberyn Martell casts some doubts on that[[/note]]. He also reprimanded Amory Lorch for being so stupid as to stab Princess Rhaenys fifty times instead of calming her with sweet words and then use a pillow to smother her.



** He also acts offended when Tyrion questions him about the mentioned incident, claiming that Tyrion can't possibly accuse him of ordering a rape... even though he has done it at least once, involving a 14-year old girl and ''a garrison of soldiers''.

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** He also acts offended when Tyrion questions him about the mentioned incident, claiming that Tyrion can't possibly accuse him of ordering a rape... even though he has done it at least once, involving a 14-year old 14-year-old girl and ''a garrison of soldiers''.



** [[spoiler: After giving him his KarmicDeath, his son sails to the Free Cities - which he once forbade him to visit - and plans to serve his [[WeUsedToBeFriends friend-turned-archenemy]] Aerys' daughter and helping to restore the Targaryens, which he thought he had neutralized for good]].

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** [[spoiler: After giving him his KarmicDeath, his son sails to the Free Cities - -- which he once forbade him to visit - -- and plans to serve his [[WeUsedToBeFriends friend-turned-archenemy]] Aerys' daughter and helping to restore the Targaryens, which he thought he had neutralized for good]].



** In terms of personality, reputation and physique, Tywin resembles Edward Longshanks - tall, intimidating and ruthless. Longshanks' suppression of the Second Barons' War, which included the defeat of Simon de Monfort (who had a Silver Lion on Red Field sigil) at the Battle of Eversham and his reputation as the Hammer of the Scots (whose national sigil is the Lion Rampant - a Red Lion) both of which are combined in the suppression of House Reyne of Castamere (Red Lion on Silver Field) and his successful defeat of the Northmen (a FantasyCounterpartCulture of Northen England and Scotland). This is alluded to when Pycelle [[spoiler:at Tywin's funeral]] notes that while Tywin was never King, he was all a King should be.

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** In terms of personality, reputation and physique, Tywin resembles Edward Longshanks - -- tall, intimidating and ruthless. Longshanks' suppression of the Second Barons' War, which included the defeat of Simon de Monfort (who had a Silver Lion on Red Field sigil) at the Battle of Eversham and his reputation as the Hammer of the Scots (whose national sigil is the Lion Rampant - -- a Red Lion) both of which are combined in the suppression of House Reyne of Castamere (Red Lion on Silver Field) and his successful defeat of the Northmen (a FantasyCounterpartCulture of Northen England and Scotland). This is alluded to when Pycelle [[spoiler:at Tywin's funeral]] notes that while Tywin was never King, he was all a King should be.



* OutGambitted: It doesn't usually happen to him, but [[spoiler:a notable one happens at the Battle of the Green Fork. Tywin sets up his force and plans for the left flank to break; he thinks that Robb Stark will be green enough to see this and over-commit, and then Tywin's reserve force can flank him. However, Tywin is Outgambitted on two counts: Roose Bolton is actually the commander of the Northern force, and he doesn't fall for it, and more importantly, Robb isn't even there--the entire attack is a diversion while Jaime's force is destroyed by Robb himself. In a particularly delicious irony, Robb himself uses the same sort of tactic in his own battle to ''successfully'' capture Jaime.]]

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* OutGambitted: It doesn't usually happen to him, but [[spoiler:a notable one happens at the Battle of the Green Fork. Tywin sets up his force and plans for the left flank to break; he thinks that Robb Stark will be green enough to see this and over-commit, and then Tywin's reserve force can flank him. However, Tywin is Outgambitted on two counts: Roose Bolton is actually the commander of the Northern force, and he doesn't fall for it, and more importantly, Robb isn't even there--the there -- the entire attack is a diversion while Jaime's force is destroyed by Robb himself. In a particularly delicious irony, Robb himself uses the same sort of tactic in his own battle to ''successfully'' capture Jaime.]]



** Although while pragmatic he has no problem releasing every PsychoForHire he can get his hands on loose across the land. Sure, he is magnanimous but he knows that people like the Mountain's men or the Brave Companions are gonna bring more than their share of pointless sadism and [[spoiler: the Frey and the Boltons]] are more tyrants than pragmatic rulers like him. It's easy to be reasonable when everyone who is ''un''reasonable is in your pocket. There's also the fact that his policies tended to favour the big folk in most cases.

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** Although while pragmatic pragmatic, he has no problem releasing every PsychoForHire he can get his hands on loose across the land. Sure, he is magnanimous but he knows that people like the Mountain's men or the Brave Companions are gonna bring more than their share of pointless sadism and [[spoiler: the Frey and the Boltons]] are more tyrants than pragmatic rulers like him. It's easy to be reasonable when everyone who is ''un''reasonable is in your pocket. There's also the fact that his policies tended to favour the big folk in most cases.



* CharacterizationMarchesOn: He's introduced doing an acrobatic leap off a gargoyle, which Martin has said is an artifact of his original ideas for the character. Soon afterward, he's firmly established as someone with few physical strengths, who must rely almost purely on his wits. Although interestingly, in the fifth book we learn that he has some tumbling skills learned when he was younger, and could walk on his hands along the length of a table--until Tywin found out about it.

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* CharacterizationMarchesOn: He's introduced doing an acrobatic leap off a gargoyle, which Martin has said is an artifact of his original ideas for the character. Soon afterward, he's firmly established as someone with few physical strengths, who must rely almost purely on his wits. Although interestingly, in the fifth book we learn that he has some tumbling skills learned when he was younger, and could walk on his hands along the length of a table--until table -- until Tywin found out about it.



* EvilUncle: Subverted - everyone thinks he's this, but he's actually one of the more decent and honorable members of his family. Ironically, the two people who seem most capable of seeing his true character are his niece and nephew [[ChildrenAreInnocent Tommen and Myrcella]]. In this aspect, he is very much like his own uncle Gerion (another subversion), though unlike him, he carries a great burden of spite and abuse.

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* EvilUncle: Subverted - -- everyone thinks he's this, but he's actually one of the more decent and honorable members of his family. Ironically, the two people who seem most capable of seeing his true character are his niece and nephew nephew, [[ChildrenAreInnocent Tommen and Myrcella]]. In this aspect, he is very much like his own uncle Gerion (another subversion), though unlike him, he carries a great burden of spite and abuse.



** Stannis Baratheon . Both are second sons who are hated by the majority of the Seven Kingdoms and thought of as [[EvilUncle evil uncles]] to Joffrey who were plotting to usurp the crown themselves. The difference is Stannis knows [[spoiler:Joffrey isn't his nephew, making him the rightful Head of House Baratheon. Tyrion is accused of poisoning Joffrey and found guilty, but was actually innocent.]] Both have terrible relationships with their siblings, though Tyrion at least had a good relationship with Jaime for most of his life, [[spoiler:Stannis was never treated well.]] Both have brilliant minds and win great victories, but don't receive their due appreciation for this. Both show some respect for lower folk, with Tyrion this is because, being a dwarf, he holds sympathy for those in similar positions. Stannis shows more respect for the lower folk out of his obsession with giving everybody their due, regardless of social rank. However Stannis is a stern PrinciplesZealot who is uncomfortable with sex and terrible socially, though with a dry deadpan sense of humor. Tyrion is a hedonistic figure who regularly consorts with prostitutes and is able to find witty answers most of the time.
** Brynden "Bloodraven" Rivers. Both served as hand of the king and both during a time of war, and were instrumental in their side's victory. Even though they were far more competent Hands than the kings they served (who also happened to be their nephews), they were disliked and distrusted by most people because of their physical appearance, Tyrion being a dwarf and Bloodraven an albino, and also they get in battle a serious injure that makes them even more menacing. They were imprisoned after their time as Hand (though Tyrion was definitely unjustly imprisoned) and were offered to go to the Wall - Bloodraven accepted, Tyrion escaped before it would have happened. [[spoiler: Finally, they're both kinslayers - Branden's archers killed Daemon Blackfyre and his sons at his orders and also murdered his nephew Aenys Blackfyre by himself, Tyrion is accused of Joffrey's murder and eventually kills his own father]].

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** Stannis Baratheon . Both are second sons who are hated by the majority of the Seven Kingdoms and thought of as [[EvilUncle evil uncles]] to Joffrey who were plotting to usurp the crown themselves. The difference is Stannis knows [[spoiler:Joffrey isn't his nephew, making him the rightful Head of House Baratheon. Tyrion is accused of poisoning Joffrey and found guilty, but was actually innocent.]] Both have terrible relationships with their siblings, though Tyrion at least had a good relationship with Jaime for most of his life, [[spoiler:Stannis was never treated well.]] Both have brilliant minds and win great victories, but don't receive their due appreciation for this. Both show some respect for lower folk, with Tyrion this is because, being a dwarf, he holds sympathy for those in similar positions. Stannis shows more respect for the lower folk out of his obsession with giving everybody their due, regardless of social rank. However However, Stannis is a stern PrinciplesZealot who is who's uncomfortable with sex and terrible socially, though with a dry deadpan sense of humor. Tyrion is a hedonistic figure who regularly consorts with prostitutes and is able to find witty answers most of the time.
** Brynden "Bloodraven" Rivers. Both served as hand of the king and both during a time of war, and were instrumental in their side's victory. Even though they were far more competent Hands than the kings they served (who also happened to be their nephews), they were disliked and distrusted by most people because of their physical appearance, Tyrion being a dwarf and Bloodraven an albino, and also they get in battle a serious injure that makes them even more menacing. They were imprisoned after their time as Hand (though Tyrion was definitely unjustly imprisoned) and were offered to go to the Wall - -- Bloodraven accepted, Tyrion escaped before it would have happened. [[spoiler: Finally, they're both kinslayers - -- Branden's archers killed Daemon Blackfyre and his sons at his orders and also murdered his nephew Aenys Blackfyre by himself, Tyrion is accused of Joffrey's murder and eventually kills his own father]].



* MyGreatestFailure: How he regards his betrayal of his wife, Tysha, who truly loved him. He hates himself [[spoiler:for listening to the lies of Jaime and his Father and participating in her gang rape which Tywin ordered but which he blames himself for as well]].

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* MyGreatestFailure: How he regards his betrayal of his wife, Tysha, who truly loved him. He hates himself [[spoiler:for listening to the lies of Jaime and his Father father and participating in her gang rape rape, which Tywin ordered but which he blames himself for as well]].



* ThePeterPrinciple: When not outright trying to get him killed as indirectly as possible while still being fairly obvious about it, his father is less than subtle in trying to invoke this trope on him by throwing him in dangerous (or just really tedious) positions. So far, it hasn't worked as planned for Tywin; again and again Tyrion proves he has managerial skills. Leaving Tywin having to fall back on exaggerating perceived failures as an excuse to prove him incompetent.

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* ThePeterPrinciple: When not outright trying to get him killed as indirectly as possible while still being fairly obvious about it, his father is less than subtle in trying to invoke this trope on him by throwing him in dangerous (or just really tedious) positions. So far, it hasn't worked as planned for Tywin; again and again Tyrion proves he has managerial skills. Leaving Tywin having to fall back on exaggerating perceived failures as an excuse to prove him incompetent.



* PrankDate: Horrifyingly subverted, when Tywin had the whole garrison gang-rape Tyrion's date Tysha. [[spoiler: Except it wasn't a PrankDate at all. Tywin was angry at his son's actions and wanted to punish him so he forced Jaime to lie that Tysha was a whore. Jaime admitting this seems to shatter their bond, as Tyrion realizes that the one person he's always trusted has ''also'' lied to him.]]

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* PrankDate: Horrifyingly subverted, when Tywin had the whole garrison gang-rape Tyrion's date Tysha. [[spoiler: Except it wasn't a PrankDate at all. Tywin was angry at his son's actions and wanted to punish him him, so he forced Jaime to lie that Tysha was a whore. Jaime admitting this seems to shatter their bond, as Tyrion realizes that the one person he's always trusted has ''also'' lied to him.]]



* TheTrickster: Ask anybody who has tried to box him in: it's a lot of hard work that rarely pays off as he ''will'' find a way to sneak out or otherwise turn the tables on them. Even if it bites him in some way to do so. Isn't that right, Catelyn Stark and Lysa Arryn? If you cross a line and hurt others needlessly in front of him, though, he will do his best to break out the full-scale KarmicTrickster schtick on you rather than just keeping his tricksome ways genial, low-key, reflexive and/or for personal survival, only. Just ask his sister. Or, Joffrey. [[spoiler: Or, his dad.]]

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* TheTrickster: Ask anybody who has tried to box him in: it's a lot of hard work that rarely pays off as he ''will'' find a way to sneak out or otherwise turn the tables on them. Even if it bites him in some way to do so. Isn't that right, Catelyn Stark and Lysa Arryn? If you cross a line and hurt others needlessly in front of him, though, he will do his best to break out the full-scale KarmicTrickster schtick on you rather than just keeping his tricksome ways genial, low-key, reflexive reflexive, and/or for personal survival, only. Just ask his sister. Or, Joffrey. [[spoiler: Or, his dad.]]



* OOCIsSeriousBusiness: Several members of the Lannister family note his cold demeanor in AFFC when he realises just how much Tywin's offspring (and his own son) have screwed everything up.

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* OOCIsSeriousBusiness: Several members of the Lannister family note his cold demeanor in AFFC ''AFFC'' when he realises just how much Tywin's offspring (and his own son) have screwed everything up.



* ArrangedMarriage: Averted. Gawen Westerling tried to arrange a marriage between Willem - or Martyn - to Jeyne Westerling. Kevan refused because of Jeyne's mother lineage being nothing more than [[NouveauRiche upjumped merchants]].

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* ArrangedMarriage: Averted. Gawen Westerling tried to arrange a marriage between Willem - -- or Martyn - -- to Jeyne Westerling. Kevan refused because of Jeyne's mother lineage being nothing more than [[NouveauRiche upjumped merchants]].



* ArrangedMarriage: Averted. Gawen Westerling tried to arrange a marriage between Martyn - or Willem - to Jeyne Westerling. Kevan refused because of Jeyne's mother lineage being nothing more than [[NouveauRiche upjumped merchants]].

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* ArrangedMarriage: Averted. Gawen Westerling tried to arrange a marriage between Martyn - -- or Willem - -- to Jeyne Westerling. Kevan refused because of Jeyne's mother lineage being nothing more than [[NouveauRiche upjumped merchants]].



* UnexpectedSuccessor: After ADWD, he is one of the few Lannisters that remains who has both feet on the ground and a legitimate claim aside from his cousin-once-removed Daven. Problem is, he's just a kid.

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* UnexpectedSuccessor: After ADWD, ''ADWD'', he is one of the few Lannisters that remains who has both feet on the ground and a legitimate claim aside from his cousin-once-removed Daven. Problem is, he's just a kid.
26th Aug '17 7:56:50 PM karategal
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** Also comes with the flip-side to knowing you have wits to battle with: TooCleverByHalf, YouTalkTooMuch, the VillainBall and attacks of SmugSnake Syndrome are enduring traits that crop up whenever a Lannister relies rather too much on being the most cunning person in the room. In both the best and worst of them.

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** Also comes with the flip-side to knowing you have wits to battle with: TooCleverByHalf, YouTalkTooMuch, the VillainBall VillainBall, and attacks of SmugSnake Syndrome are enduring traits that crop up whenever a Lannister relies rather too much on being the most cunning person in the room. In both the best and worst of them.



* LesCollaborateurs: Twice, against the Andals then the Targaryens. When they couldn't beat them they joined them.

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* LesCollaborateurs: Twice, against the Andals then the Targaryens. When they couldn't beat them them, they joined them.



* CorruptBureaucrat: They'll use ''anything'' to get what they want. However low and dirty it can get. And, bribery? Is this Family's go-to, first resort across the board. If that won't work, they bring out the appeals to nepotism and/or authority, blackmail and threats. Or worse.

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* CorruptBureaucrat: They'll use ''anything'' to get what they want. However low and dirty it can get. And, bribery? Is this Family's go-to, first resort across the board. If that won't work, they bring out the appeals to nepotism and/or authority, blackmail blackmail, and threats. Or worse.



* {{Foreshadowing}}: Maester Yandel argues that the Valyrians considered trading with the Rock for gold and resources, but that prophecy drove them away; the prophecy stated that the gold from the Rock would bring them to ruin, turning them away from Westeros altogether. Centuries, or even millenia later, the last Valyrian king of Westeros Aerys Targaryen "The Mad" saw the destruction of his house and his own death for relying on the Lannisters of the Rock when he shouldn't have.

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* {{Foreshadowing}}: Maester Yandel argues that the Valyrians considered trading with the Rock for gold and resources, but that prophecy drove them away; the prophecy stated that the gold from the Rock would bring them to ruin, turning them away from Westeros altogether. Centuries, or even millenia millennia later, the last Valyrian king of Westeros Aerys Targaryen "The Mad" saw the destruction of his house and his own death for relying on the Lannisters of the Rock when he shouldn't have.



* GangOfHats: At first it's played straight, with all the Lannisters bar Tyrion portrayed as greedy, vain, and corrupt snobs -- Tywin, Jaime, Joffrey, Cersei and to a lesser extent Lancel all fitting under this category. However, as the story goes on, we get to know Lannisters with vastly different personalities, ranging from the naïve and well-meaning (Tytos and Tommen), innocent (Willem, Tyrek, and Myrcella), and incompetent (Stafford) to the reasonable (Kevan, Genna, and Tygett), kind (Gerion), heroic (Daven, and [[spoiler: post-character development Jaime]]) and devout (Lancel).

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* GangOfHats: At first it's played straight, with all the Lannisters bar Tyrion portrayed as greedy, vain, and corrupt snobs -- Tywin, Jaime, Joffrey, Cersei and to a lesser extent Lancel all fitting under this category. However, as the story goes on, we get to know Lannisters with vastly different personalities, ranging from the naïve and well-meaning (Tytos and Tommen), innocent (Willem, Tyrek, and Myrcella), and incompetent (Stafford) to the reasonable (Kevan, Genna, and Tygett), kind (Gerion), heroic (Daven, and [[spoiler: post-character development Jaime]]) Jaime]]), and devout (Lancel).



* NotSoDifferent: Letís see, basically the ruling family in Westeros, extremely high opinions of themselves, living off past glories of the more competent members of the house who are already deceased, an absolutely remarkable ability to make very powerful enemies and distancing allies, an inability to see past their own egos and a penchant for incest? House Targaryen says hi.

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* NotSoDifferent: Letís see, basically the ruling family in Westeros, extremely high opinions of themselves, living off past glories of the more competent members of the house who are already deceased, an absolutely remarkable ability to make very powerful enemies and distancing allies, an inability to see past their own egos egos, and a penchant for incest? House Targaryen says hi.



* PyrrhicVictory: House Lannister may still be winning the war as of the end of ''A Dance With Dragons,'' but it's clear that the foundation of their victory is crumbling. Tyrion is exiled, Jaime is maimed and disillusioned [[spoiler: and seemingly being led into a trap]], Cersei is discredited, and Kevan and Tywin are dead; Lancel has sworn himself to the Faith Militant, [[spoiler:Tyrek has disappeared]], Daven has been named [[spoiler:Warden of the West]], removing him from crown-related matters and Genna is tied to the Freys; for all intents and purposes, the only Lannister still standing in somewhat stable ground is Martyn (son of Kevan) and he's just a kid. Also, the war against Robb Stark cost them much of their military strength, and the Lannisters' allies are either unreliable, [[Characters/ASongOfIceAndFireHouseTyrell alienated]], or incompetent. Lady Barbrey Dustin refers to the Lannisters as a spent force.

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* PyrrhicVictory: House Lannister may still be winning the war as of the end of ''A Dance With Dragons,'' but it's clear that the foundation of their victory is crumbling. Tyrion is exiled, Jaime is maimed and disillusioned [[spoiler: and seemingly being led into a trap]], Cersei is discredited, and Kevan and Tywin are dead; Lancel has sworn himself to the Faith Militant, [[spoiler:Tyrek has disappeared]], Daven has been named [[spoiler:Warden of the West]], removing him from crown-related matters matters, and Genna is tied to the Freys; for all intents and purposes, the only Lannister still standing in somewhat stable ground is Martyn (son of Kevan) and he's just a kid. Also, the war against Robb Stark cost them much of their military strength, and the Lannisters' allies are either unreliable, [[Characters/ASongOfIceAndFireHouseTyrell alienated]], or incompetent. Lady Barbrey Dustin refers to the Lannisters as a spent force.



* {{Realpolitik}}: Many of them play hard ball when it comes to political maneuvering. Pragmatism usually trumps over such things as ethical concerns or immediate personal feelings -- unless they can rationalize it to themselves as something pragmatic, of course. Heck, Tywin can even contemplate burying the hatchet with the Martells and cozying up to the Tyrells in a bid to have fewer headaches to deal with. However, they tend to weight towards the [[MachiavelliWasWrong Machiavelli]] [[InvertedTrope Was]] [[DeconstructedTrope Right]] school of thought -- minus the "and be loved" bit. Fear, terror and respect are where its all at for practically all of them. Even the nicer ones.

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* {{Realpolitik}}: Many of them play hard ball when it comes to political maneuvering. Pragmatism usually trumps over such things as ethical concerns or immediate personal feelings -- unless they can rationalize it to themselves as something pragmatic, of course. Heck, Tywin can even contemplate burying the hatchet with the Martells and cozying up to the Tyrells in a bid to have fewer headaches to deal with. However, they tend to weight towards the [[MachiavelliWasWrong Machiavelli]] [[InvertedTrope Was]] [[DeconstructedTrope Right]] school of thought -- minus the "and be loved" bit. Fear, terror terror, and respect are where its it's all at for practically all of them. Even the nicer ones.



-->'''Tyrion''' - "Rich as a Lannister". That is what they say.
* RisingEmpire: After the fall of House Targaryen and the unstable reign of House Baratheon, the Lannisters seize control of the Seven Kingdoms. Tywin, Cersei and Joffrey are dead-set on making this happen, dragging the rest of the family along with them.

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-->'''Tyrion''' - -- "Rich as a Lannister". That is what they say.
* RisingEmpire: After the fall of House Targaryen and the unstable reign of House Baratheon, the Lannisters seize control of the Seven Kingdoms. Tywin, Cersei Cersei, and Joffrey are dead-set on making this happen, dragging the rest of the family along with them.



* TangledFamilyTree: The Lannisport Lannisters were created to simplify the inheritance chain of House Lannister. However, they have dozens of offshoots of their own, various petty nobles with last names starting with "Lan": Lannys, Lantells, Lansters etc. are found in abundance in Lannisport.

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* TangledFamilyTree: The Lannisport Lannisters were created to simplify the inheritance chain of House Lannister. However, they have dozens of offshoots of their own, various petty nobles with last names starting with "Lan": Lannys, Lantells, Lansters Lansters, etc. are found in abundance in Lannisport.
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* MasterSwordsman: His sister, Genna, tells Jaime "you fight like Tyg" if that tells you anything.

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* MasterSwordsman: His sister, Genna, tells Jaime "you fight like Tyg" if that tells you anything.Tyg", Jaime being [[MemeticBadass widely regarded as the greatest swordsman in the world.]]
23rd Jul '17 5:56:14 PM Scabbard
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** His betrayal of Aerys. According to both Jaime's and Cersei's narration, he resigned his Handship not because Aerys was steadily losing his mind, but because of the endless slights he was subjected to, culminating in Aerys's refusal of the offer of Cersei's hand for Prince Rhaegar, claiming Tywin had not earned such an honor. This was a pretty mad thing to say to the man who has been ''[[TheManBehindTheMan running your kingdom for you]]'' for twenty years (though that itself was a BerserkButton for Aerys II), especially when Aerys then turned around and explained that Tywin was his most faithful servant but princes don't marry their servants' children. It's also implied that Aerys did it to spite Tywin for marrying Joanna, who he desired for himself (and felt up at her wedding in Tywin's presence).

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** His betrayal of Aerys. According to both Jaime's and Cersei's narration, he resigned his Handship not because Aerys was steadily losing his mind, but because of the endless slights he was subjected to, culminating in Aerys's refusal of the offer of Cersei's hand for Prince Rhaegar, claiming Tywin had not earned such an honor. This was a pretty mad thing to say to the man who has been ''[[TheManBehindTheMan running your kingdom for you]]'' for twenty years (though that itself was a BerserkButton for Aerys II), especially when Aerys then turned around and explained that Tywin was his most faithful servant but princes don't marry their servants' children. It's also implied that Aerys did it to spite Tywin for marrying Joanna, who he desired for himself (and felt up "took liberties" at her wedding in Tywin's presence).
23rd Jul '17 5:25:17 PM Scabbard
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* AmbiguousSituation: [[spoiler:It was heavily hinted that Oberyn Martell poisoned Tywin before Joffrey's wedding with a slow acting version of Widow's Blood, a type of poison that causes the victim to crap themselves to death. This might explain why Tywin's body decomposed so quickly after Tyrion killed him.]]

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* AmbiguousSituation: [[spoiler:It was heavily hinted that Oberyn Martell poisoned Tywin before Joffrey's wedding with a slow acting version of Widow's Blood, a type of poison that causes shuts down the victim to crap themselves to death. victim's bladder and bowels until the person dies from the body's own poisons. This might explain why Tywin's body decomposed so quickly and so messily after Tyrion killed him.]]
21st Jul '17 6:44:08 PM undashing
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* CoolUncle: Seems to have a very good relationship with Tyrion. For example, kissing him on the cheeks and complimenting how bravely he fought at the Battle of the Blackwater.
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