History Characters / ASongOfIceAndFireHouseLannister

12th Dec '17 12:42:05 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* TheLastOfTheseIsNotLikeTheOthers: In some aspects:
** He is the last-born son of Tywin Lannister. While his older twin siblings are gorgeous, Tyrion is rather ugly; they also lack the pragmatism that he employs and are not quite as intelligent as he is. He is also quite the womanizer, whereas his preternaturally beautiful brother is a single-pony rider even with numerous, ''numerous'' options.
** He is, in what's been shown so far, the highest-born Westerosi nobleman ever to be enslaved.
** As further elaborated in NoTrueScotsman, Tyrion does not behave the way other dwarves do.



* TheLastOfTheseIsNotLikeTheOthers: He is one of the first (if not the very first) Lannister that is named Warden of the West without being himself neither the head of the House nor the Lord of Casterly Rock. When [[spoiler:Kevan is assassinated]], no one remains to take those titles from him unless Tyrion is able to successfully stake his claim on the Rock in the near future.
28th Oct '17 6:24:49 PM Chubzhac
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* ZeroPercentApprovalRating: Tywin's brutal and selfish ideologies has won him few friends, not that he wants any, and he tends to be hated by his enemies and allies alike.
** Smallfolk hate Tywin for taking away the privileges granted to them by Aegon V. The citizens of King's Landing particularly despise him for sacking the city at the end of Robert's Rebellion.
** It is said that Tywin found most of his support in the noble classes, who benefited the most from his elitist ideals. These same nobles were known to be amused by the various insults he suffered under the Mad King and were delighted to hear rumors that Aerys was planning to have him executed on false treason charges.



* HorribleJudgeOfCharacter: In a strange, roudabout way. Because he's usually good at reading people in one SherlockScan, he tends to hold fast to his first impression and rarely revises his opinion, even when he's made a bit of a mistake, not taken the observation far enough, or they've [[CharacterDevelopment changed since his last evaluation]]. He remains firmly convinced that [[spoiler:Tyrion is just his TooCleverByHalf, disappointment of a son, Jaime ''will'' come around in time even though he's stubborn with an honour-streak he doesn't admit he's got, Cersei will do as she's told like a daughter should, Sansa is a biddable pawn who won't move on her own even if you go boo, and Littlefinger is just so glad to get away from the Fingers that he'll do practically anything interesting to keep from going back there.]] He's never ''entirely'' wrong, but he's just wrong ''enough''.

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* HoistByHisOwnPetard: Tywin tends to fill his army with as many violent psychopaths as possible, which causes his enemies and rivals to fear him and think twice about challenging him. However, this causes his forces not to be useful when a situation calls for restraint or strategy, causing Tywin to suffer various military defeats and public controversies.
** He hired the Brave Companions, one of the most violent and insane sellsword companies, and brought them to Westeros to help terrorize the Riverlands. They end up betraying him at the first opportune moment and allied themselves to Roose Bolton, [[spoiler:which eventually lead to Jaime getting maimed by them.]]
* HorribleJudgeOfCharacter: In a strange, roudabout roundabout way. Because he's usually good at reading people in one SherlockScan, he tends to hold fast to his first impression and rarely revises his opinion, even when he's made a bit of a mistake, not taken the observation far enough, or they've [[CharacterDevelopment changed since his last evaluation]]. He remains firmly convinced that [[spoiler:Tyrion is just his TooCleverByHalf, disappointment of a son, Jaime ''will'' come around in time even though he's stubborn with an honour-streak he doesn't admit he's got, Cersei will do as she's told like a daughter should, Sansa is a biddable pawn who won't move on her own even if you go boo, and Littlefinger is just so glad to get away from the Fingers that he'll do practically anything interesting to keep from going back there.]] He's never ''entirely'' wrong, but he's just wrong ''enough''.
23rd Oct '17 2:46:11 PM Angelus25
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23rd Oct '17 2:43:51 PM Angelus25
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-->'''Joanna Lannister: "He could never abide being laughed at. That was the thing he hated most."'''

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-->'''Joanna Lannister: "He Lannister:''' He could never abide being laughed at. That was the thing he hated most."'''
23rd Oct '17 2:43:11 PM Angelus25
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* AmbiguousSituation: [[spoiler:It was heavily hinted that Oberyn Martell poisoned Tywin before Joffrey's wedding with a slow acting version of Widow's Blood, a type of poison that shuts down the victim's bladder and bowels until the person dies from the body's own poisons. This might explain why Tywin's body decomposed so quickly and so messily after Tyrion killed him.]]



* DeconstructedTrope: He will go down as one of the great conquerors; a FourStarBadass in war and a ReasonableAuthorityFigure in peace. It doesn't mean that he was a nice or charismatic. His penchant for DisproportionateRetribution, which he considers to be PragmaticEvil, is actually a constant attempt to quiet out the laughter and mockery he heard thrown at his father when he was a child.

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* DeconstructedTrope: He will go down as one of the great conquerors; a FourStarBadass in war and a ReasonableAuthorityFigure in peace. It doesn't mean that he was a nice or charismatic. His penchant for DisproportionateRetribution, which he considers to be PragmaticEvil, is actually a constant attempt to quiet out the laughter and mockery he heard thrown at his father when he was a child. In a dream in which his mother appears, Jaime is told this:
-->'''Joanna Lannister: "He could never abide being laughed at. That was the thing he hated most."'''
9th Oct '17 7:25:34 PM JoeG
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* WickedPretentious: Tywin makes a big deal about maintaining regal composure in public, but he can stray into hypocrisy sometimes, like when he arranges for [[spoiler: his enemies to be killed over dinner, something that's the epitome of bad taste in Westeros; plus, despite calling it unfitting, he's apparently been seeing whores secretly for some time.]]
8th Oct '17 5:25:13 AM Euodiachloris
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** True to form, there's a lot more sense to this side-lining than meets the eye. Sure, it limits competing claims; but, they're also ''insurance''. Things like the Great Spring Sickness and overextention in plots happen, so having distant heirs is good.

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** True to form, there's a lot more sense to this side-lining than meets the eye. Sure, it limits competing claims; but, they're also ''insurance''. Things like the Great Spring Sickness and overextention in plots happen, so having distant distant, possible, "in case of emergency, only", secondary heirs to fall back on is good.''good''.
8th Oct '17 5:05:55 AM Euodiachloris
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** True to form, there's a lot more sense to this side-lining than meets the eye. Sure, it limits competing claims; but, they're also ''insurance''. Things like the Great Spring Sickness and overextention in plots happen, so having distant heirs is good.
5th Oct '17 5:04:52 AM RobTan
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* PunchClockVillain: He’s not a bad guy at heart, but he has a job to do, and if Tywin says jump, he jumps.
5th Oct '17 4:59:36 AM RobTan
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The [[OldMoney richest]] house in Westeros. They control the Westerlands, with its hills and rich gold mines, and claim to descend from [[TricksterArchetype Lann the Clever]], who is said to have stolen sunlight for his hair and winkled Casterly Rock from House Casterly using only his wits. They are of First Men origin through the female line, though they follow neither the Old Gods nor the customs of the heritage anymore since Andal adventurers married into the family. The Lannisters are powerful and controlling, and completely merciless to those they view as weak. They are effectively the royal house and become the nemesis of the Starks early on. They have notable similarities to the historical Borgia dynasty, as well as drawing some inspiration from various members of the UsefulNotes/WarsOfTheRoses. They have a second, unofficial motto -- "A Lannister always pays his debts" -- which is an invitation to {{Good Samaritan}}s and a warning to [[BadSamaritan Bad ones]]. Their members are beautiful, with [[GreenEyes Green Eyes]] and blonde hair, and their sigil is a [[KingOfBeasts golden lion]] on a red field.

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The [[OldMoney richest]] house in Westeros. They control the Westerlands, with its hills and rich gold mines, and claim to descend from [[TricksterArchetype Lann the Clever]], who is said to have stolen sunlight for his hair and winkled Casterly Rock from House Casterly using only his wits. They are of First Men origin through the female line, though they follow neither the Old Gods nor the customs of the heritage anymore since Andal adventurers married into the family.family hundreds of years ago. The Lannisters are powerful and controlling, and completely merciless to those they view as weak. They are effectively the royal house and become the nemesis of the Starks early on. They have notable similarities to the historical Borgia dynasty, as well as drawing some inspiration from various members of the UsefulNotes/WarsOfTheRoses. They have a second, unofficial motto -- "A Lannister always pays his debts" -- which is an invitation to {{Good Samaritan}}s and a warning to [[BadSamaritan Bad ones]]. Their members are beautiful, with [[GreenEyes Green Eyes]] and blonde hair, and their sigil is a [[KingOfBeasts golden lion]] on a red field.
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