History Characters / ASongOfIceAndFireHouseLannister

21st May '18 5:04:25 AM Euodiachloris
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* HappilyMarried: He adores his wife. The only reason why the reader never encounters Dorna is not because Kevan has shut her away, but because he believes that she would hate the [[DeadlyDecadentCourt Royal Court]] due to her quiet and sensitive nature, and so they've arranged for her to stay at home with their younger children.

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* HappilyMarried: He adores his wife. The only reason why the reader never encounters Dorna is not because Kevan has shut her away, but because he believes that she would hate the [[DeadlyDecadentCourt Royal Court]] due to her quiet and sensitive nature, and so they've arranged for her to stay at home with their younger children. He has an ''incredibly'' valid point, [[spoiler: since he died at court, and it's all to easy to picture a Stark-like situation happening had he brought his wife and kids.]]
10th May '18 9:16:56 AM TheAmazingBlachman
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* UndignifiedDeath: [[spoiler:Being shot in the groin by your dwarf son with a crossbow while on the crapper (and crapping as you die) is a pretty undignified way to go, especially for someone like Tywin. The dead prostitute found in his bed makes it even worse. His body stinks to high heaven when laid in state and is an ugly sight for everyone]].

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* UndignifiedDeath: [[spoiler:Being shot in the groin by your dwarf son with a crossbow [[TheCanKickedHim while on the crapper crapper]] (and crapping as you die) is a pretty undignified way to go, especially for someone like Tywin. The dead prostitute found in his bed makes it even worse. His body stinks to high heaven when laid in state and is an ugly sight for everyone]].
10th May '18 9:09:26 AM TheAmazingBlachman
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* GenerationXerox: Of all his siblings, he appears to be the one who had most in common with their father, Tytos, being a generally kind and happy man, who was quick to laugh and had a gift for making others laugh.
16th Apr '18 9:05:05 AM outlander2012
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* DoNotTauntCthulhu: When Tywin returned a battle-hardened veteran of the War of the Ninepenny Kings, having made it his mission to restore House Lannister to its proper place, and issued commands that his bannermen were to pay up their debts to Casterly Rock or give over a hostage if they couldn't, most of the nobility of the Westerlands got the message the free ride they'd been enjoying under Tytos was over, that the heir to the Rock wasn't a pushover like his father or a man to cross and quickly fell back into line.
-->'''Harys Swyft''': ''[speaking of Tywin's return]'' [[HesBack The lion has awoken]].



* EvilHasABadSenseOfHumor: Neither of his sons can ever remember seeing him smile, though other relatives report Tywin doing so on rare occasions. Because of the way his father was mocked Tywin distrusts laughter and japes; yet another reason for his conflicts with Tyrion, who uses mockery as a defense mechanism.

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* EvilHasABadSenseOfHumor: Neither of his sons can ever remember seeing him smile, though other relatives report Tywin doing so on rare occasions. Because of the way his father was mocked mocked, Tywin distrusts laughter and japes; yet another reason for his conflicts with Tyrion, who uses mockery as a defense mechanism.
27th Mar '18 9:52:23 AM trixus
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* DeceasedParentsAreTheBest: Averted. While she sounds better than [[AbusiveParents Tywin]] in every way, Jaime and Cersei are both quite messed up despite being old enough to remember her. In fact, Jaime and Cersei were both bitter at their mother for putting them in separate rooms after she caught them at their "experiment." Tyrion is too young to remember her, and thus doesn't reminisce about her at all.

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* DeceasedParentsAreTheBest: Averted. While she sounds better than [[AbusiveParents Tywin]] in every way, Jaime and Cersei are both quite messed up despite being old enough to remember her. In fact, Jaime and Cersei were both bitter at their mother for putting them in separate rooms after she caught them at their "experiment." Tyrion is too young to remember her, never really met her since she died delivering him, and thus doesn't reminisce about her at all.
8th Feb '18 11:37:55 AM AnnieLeonhardts
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* BigBrotherInstinct: To Genna certainly, and Kevan as well, most likely. Genna notes that she loved him for being the only one to protest at their father [[spoiler: marrying her off to Walder's Frey's second son]].
-->'''Genna Frey''': [[spoiler: I was seven when Walder Frey persuaded my lord father to give my hand to Emm. His second son, not even his heir. Father was himself a thirdborn son, and younger children crave the approval of their elders. Frey sensed that weakness in him, and Father agreed for no better reason than to please him. My betrothal was announced at a feast with half the west in attendance. Ellyn Tarbeck laughed and the Red Lion went angry from the hall. The rest sat on their tongues. Only Tywin dared speak against the match. A boy of ten. Father turned as white as mare's milk, and Walder Frey was quivering. How could I not love him after that? That is not to say I approved of all he did, or much enjoyed the company of the man he became ... but every little girl needs a big brother to protect her. Tywin was big even when he was little.]]

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* BigBrotherInstinct: To Genna certainly, and Kevan as well, most likely. Genna notes that she loved him for being the only one to protest at their father [[spoiler: marrying her off to Walder's Frey's second son]].
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-->'''Genna Frey''': [[spoiler: I was seven when Walder Frey persuaded my lord father to give my hand to Emm. His second son, not even his heir. Father was himself a thirdborn son, and younger children crave the approval of their elders. Frey sensed that weakness in him, and Father agreed for no better reason than to please him. My betrothal was announced at a feast with half the west in attendance. Ellyn Tarbeck laughed and the Red Lion went angry from the hall. The rest sat on their tongues. Only Tywin dared speak against the match. A boy of ten. Father turned as white as mare's milk, and Walder Frey was quivering. How could I not love him after that? That is not to say I approved of all he did, or much enjoyed the company of the man he became ... but every little girl needs a big brother to protect her. Tywin was big even when he was little.]]
4th Jan '18 12:41:56 PM bravo104
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* DisposableWoman: Is basically just a plot device with a uterus, existing solely to give birth and so that Tywin and Cersei have a reason to hate Tyrion.
1st Jan '18 7:48:58 AM acrobox
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* BadassGrandpa: Tywin is one of the most powerful lords in Westeros, a master strategist and despite being in his fifties, still a capable warrior.
* BadassInCharge: There's a ''reason'' he's considered the BigBad by the Starks and not Joffrey.

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* BadassGrandpa: Tywin is one of the most powerful lords in Westeros, a master strategist and despite being in his fifties, still a capable warrior.
* BadassInCharge: There's a ''reason'' he's considered the BigBad by the Starks and not Joffrey. Tywin is one of the most powerful lords in Westeros, a master strategist and despite being in his fifties, still a capable warrior.
12th Dec '17 12:42:05 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* TheLastOfTheseIsNotLikeTheOthers: In some aspects:
** He is the last-born son of Tywin Lannister. While his older twin siblings are gorgeous, Tyrion is rather ugly; they also lack the pragmatism that he employs and are not quite as intelligent as he is. He is also quite the womanizer, whereas his preternaturally beautiful brother is a single-pony rider even with numerous, ''numerous'' options.
** He is, in what's been shown so far, the highest-born Westerosi nobleman ever to be enslaved.
** As further elaborated in NoTrueScotsman, Tyrion does not behave the way other dwarves do.



* TheLastOfTheseIsNotLikeTheOthers: He is one of the first (if not the very first) Lannister that is named Warden of the West without being himself neither the head of the House nor the Lord of Casterly Rock. When [[spoiler:Kevan is assassinated]], no one remains to take those titles from him unless Tyrion is able to successfully stake his claim on the Rock in the near future.
28th Oct '17 6:24:49 PM Chubzhac
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* ZeroPercentApprovalRating: Tywin's brutal and selfish ideologies has won him few friends, not that he wants any, and he tends to be hated by his enemies and allies alike.
** Smallfolk hate Tywin for taking away the privileges granted to them by Aegon V. The citizens of King's Landing particularly despise him for sacking the city at the end of Robert's Rebellion.
** It is said that Tywin found most of his support in the noble classes, who benefited the most from his elitist ideals. These same nobles were known to be amused by the various insults he suffered under the Mad King and were delighted to hear rumors that Aerys was planning to have him executed on false treason charges.



* HorribleJudgeOfCharacter: In a strange, roudabout way. Because he's usually good at reading people in one SherlockScan, he tends to hold fast to his first impression and rarely revises his opinion, even when he's made a bit of a mistake, not taken the observation far enough, or they've [[CharacterDevelopment changed since his last evaluation]]. He remains firmly convinced that [[spoiler:Tyrion is just his TooCleverByHalf, disappointment of a son, Jaime ''will'' come around in time even though he's stubborn with an honour-streak he doesn't admit he's got, Cersei will do as she's told like a daughter should, Sansa is a biddable pawn who won't move on her own even if you go boo, and Littlefinger is just so glad to get away from the Fingers that he'll do practically anything interesting to keep from going back there.]] He's never ''entirely'' wrong, but he's just wrong ''enough''.

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* HoistByHisOwnPetard: Tywin tends to fill his army with as many violent psychopaths as possible, which causes his enemies and rivals to fear him and think twice about challenging him. However, this causes his forces not to be useful when a situation calls for restraint or strategy, causing Tywin to suffer various military defeats and public controversies.
** He hired the Brave Companions, one of the most violent and insane sellsword companies, and brought them to Westeros to help terrorize the Riverlands. They end up betraying him at the first opportune moment and allied themselves to Roose Bolton, [[spoiler:which eventually lead to Jaime getting maimed by them.]]
* HorribleJudgeOfCharacter: In a strange, roudabout roundabout way. Because he's usually good at reading people in one SherlockScan, he tends to hold fast to his first impression and rarely revises his opinion, even when he's made a bit of a mistake, not taken the observation far enough, or they've [[CharacterDevelopment changed since his last evaluation]]. He remains firmly convinced that [[spoiler:Tyrion is just his TooCleverByHalf, disappointment of a son, Jaime ''will'' come around in time even though he's stubborn with an honour-streak he doesn't admit he's got, Cersei will do as she's told like a daughter should, Sansa is a biddable pawn who won't move on her own even if you go boo, and Littlefinger is just so glad to get away from the Fingers that he'll do practically anything interesting to keep from going back there.]] He's never ''entirely'' wrong, but he's just wrong ''enough''.
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